JDM Chatterbait Revolution: IMPOSSIBLE Game Changer that beats the Jackhammer?!

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @BassniperEng
    @BassniperEng  29 дней назад +7

    For folks who are interested in where might be a good place to get these:
    Digita**
    Jap** Lure S***
    Asia* Port**
    Disclaimer: this is not an ad of any sort and I have zero affiliation with any of the the manufacturer or seller mentioned in the video or comment.

    • @silverpunk2427
      @silverpunk2427 28 дней назад

      Damn 1/4 is out of stock everywhere

    • @DFWdarin
      @DFWdarin 15 дней назад

      @@BassniperEng I shop at Asian portal often. I find them to be a pretty good source. Although sometimes they drop the ball on shipping. That's not saying I expect my items to be at my front door within a week or two but when it gets over a month it's kind of annoying. That's only happened like once or twice. But usually you get your product within 2 weeks a lot of times sooner. I have another one that I go to that you don't mention here and I'm not going to mention it either cuz I feel like it's my little secret. Where you can get mega bass p5s for 300 bucks

    • @DFWdarin
      @DFWdarin 15 дней назад

      @@BassniperEng also, I meant to say thank you for the video.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  14 дней назад

      @@DFWdarin haha agreed. I would not get rods from AP anymore. They ship rods in cardboard box...not in tubes. Shipping for rods super cheap though if anyone would want to bet the luck.

  • @buster5506
    @buster5506 Месяц назад +5

    Hey Jerry, that was a very thorough and detailed review. I don’t know of anyone who is as meticulous in their description and measurements, providing great visual comparison with other similar lures. Great job!
    Greg

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      Hey Greg!! Always good to see you here as well :-)

  • @83jbbentley
    @83jbbentley Месяц назад +8

    This channel is going to blow up.

  • @wolverinex4243
    @wolverinex4243 Месяц назад +3

    Jesus, this is in-depth as heck!

  • @crstone1998
    @crstone1998 6 дней назад +1

    Looks like a great bait. I just searched forever to try finding some to purchase and they are all sold out every where. Must be really good like you said!

    • @kurtrindgen4708
      @kurtrindgen4708 20 часов назад

      Try some JDM site in Japan. Just google. I can find some from overseas in stock.

  • @HBeretta
    @HBeretta Месяц назад +9

    i bought the entire super break blade lineup about 5-6 months ago and they're on another level. one of the things i noticed was how well it comes through cover. you can literally throw their qtr oz into a reed cluster and it won't get hung. i like rigging the 3/16 or qtr oz with their 3" rhythm grub. anyway, great video.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      lol that's what I did as well~love it

    • @YakbassOKC
      @YakbassOKC Месяц назад

      Nice where can I buy them?

    • @HBeretta
      @HBeretta Месяц назад

      @@YakbassOKC backlash japan....online....paypal needed.

    • @HBeretta
      @HBeretta Месяц назад

      @@YakbassOKC 7palmsweb also has some

    • @gman69455
      @gman69455 Месяц назад +1

      @@YakbassOKCany fishing site out of Japan. Gonna have to import unless jackall starts paying licensing fees to zman for their chatterbait patent.

  • @abelabner
    @abelabner 8 дней назад

    Excellent recommendation! Thanks for sharing your discoveries!

  • @MaineStreamFishing
    @MaineStreamFishing 29 дней назад +1

    Gotta check some of these out! They look good! Love the in depth explanation.

  • @Mags120fish1
    @Mags120fish1 12 дней назад

    Thanks for spilling the beans. I’m going to buy a few.

  • @Pierrepadda
    @Pierrepadda 29 дней назад

    I bought a whole pile from Japan when they were released, love these baits. has delivered when nothing else worked. fishing for perch in Sweden

  • @andrewsales5417
    @andrewsales5417 Месяц назад +2

    Queen's tackle "switchblades" on swim jigs with VERTICAL LINE TIE. Turn your swim jig into a chatterbait. But I noticed the jig that worked the best with the switchblade was a finesse football head jig with large switch blade

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад +1

      This sounds really cool. I have to give this a try!
      Thanks for sharing!!

  • @SpinnMasterTeam
    @SpinnMasterTeam 29 дней назад

    Nice to hear your opinion, from a guy that is a designer of R&D is something.
    I like very much tu hear the way you speek, i am a mold designer and also a fisherman and an inventor.
    Not the same as you but close.
    Again, very cool to hear from you.
    Cheers

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  29 дней назад +1

      Hello fellow R&D folk~ thanks for the support!!

  • @juancanon1459
    @juancanon1459 День назад

    The dera break blade got me my largest smallmouth bass. Even smaller blade. I haven’t been able to find any in a long time

  • @kevinloper6551
    @kevinloper6551 25 дней назад

    Great Video! I'm going to be Picking up a couple of These for sure. Thank You for the great Information.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  24 дня назад

      Hope they do well for you. Let me know what you think!

  • @jombfish
    @jombfish Месяц назад

    Greetings from Missouri! You’re the best bass fishing RUclipsr. Love the videos man.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      Greetings from New England~Glad you like the vids. One of my buddies grew up fishing Lake of Ozarks. I learnt a few crankbait and buzzbait tricks from him. He dreams one day our local lakes will lose all the weed so he can fish his style like back on the Ozarks LOL Tight lines!!

  • @MrTxawjcoj
    @MrTxawjcoj Месяц назад

    Great breakdown as always!

  • @creek_stalker
    @creek_stalker Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for this video, i love chatterbaits and Jackall lures, i fish alot of heavy grass and this is something i need!

  • @youtubzkoz
    @youtubzkoz 27 дней назад

    #1 is the bass puzzle grass piece. Grass and wood and rock. Basically anywhere and can be used like a buzz bait too. Ultra versatile and add any trailer type get it to do more. 🎉

  • @tgrove060960
    @tgrove060960 7 дней назад

    Great clip, subscribed! 👊👍

  • @suprastar5896
    @suprastar5896 29 дней назад

    One other thing to prevent snags that isn't often mentioned is the type of trailer. Something like a Zako or Spunk Shad is quite pointed on the bottom. So they tip and fall over when they deflect on cover with traditional chatterbaits. Something with a wider, flat bottom like a creature bait largely prevents this.
    And that's another nice thing about the Jackall. Because of the "kick stands" on the bottom that prevent roll, you can go back to using things like the Zako in heavy cover without worry.
    Also, really great channel. The underwater footage when provided is particularly useful. Your detailed explanation WITH underwater video is about as good as it gets. More please!

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  29 дней назад

      Exactly, the Jackhammer due to the open hook design restricts trailer selection. I use Beaver, SpaceMonkey etc for going through woods but like you said, makes the overall profile big. Thanks for the support. Will do.

    • @suprastar5896
      @suprastar5896 28 дней назад

      @BassniperEng If you want a pintail bait with flat bottom designed for chatterbait, check out the Nories Hulabug.

  • @KennyWright-bv7sr
    @KennyWright-bv7sr Месяц назад +3

    Still crushing on the original CB

  • @kockarSO
    @kockarSO 25 дней назад

    Great video, very good and detailed presentation, with perfect examples and comparisons!
    You skipped to point out one detail that makes this lure a gem, in combination with all the others you mentioned.

  • @joecontinetti6594
    @joecontinetti6594 Месяц назад +1

    Great video!

  • @KirkAllenOutdoorAdventures
    @KirkAllenOutdoorAdventures 4 дня назад +1

    New Sub. Great Info

  • @Steve-ev6vx
    @Steve-ev6vx Месяц назад +1

    I have been asking zman for a hair or feather jig chatterbait for years. This is really close to what I was looking for. I am definitely going to order some.

    • @kevinbeaudean704
      @kevinbeaudean704 14 дней назад

      They did put out a Feather chatterbait years ago but only in 1/4oz.

  • @kabanchan5768
    @kabanchan5768 Месяц назад

    very cool explanations love the intro

  • @esoxchris
    @esoxchris Месяц назад

    Another great video 🙌🏻

  • @soupra22
    @soupra22 16 дней назад

    I just got some of these and fished with one today i really like it for heavy cover the only down side is i lost quite of few from them coming off ude to the cover wires not allowing a great hooks hookset even though I set the hook well.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  15 дней назад

      Glad it was working for you. For me the wires worked ok but heavy covers can vary a lot. What type of cover were you fishing? Shoulder to shoulder these wires are much better than the cross-eye IMO.

  • @VirginianFishinDominion
    @VirginianFishinDominion 14 дней назад

    Great video! Just got a new subscriber

  • @oklabasswife
    @oklabasswife День назад

    what color the chatter bait and the color of trailer on video top and bottom lure please, I like to try used it on my home lake. your video looks good and great presentation!

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  День назад

      Check out Zako and Shadshape worm.

  • @mikecamalier2653
    @mikecamalier2653 Месяц назад

    Great information. Merry Christmas. Bassmd

  • @comfortablynumb9342
    @comfortablynumb9342 15 дней назад

    I'm curious how those will work for the saltwater. They could be awesome for redfish and maybe flounder or trout. In FL they might be good for snook. I'd like to throw them around the marshes in the Chesapeake Bay area.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  15 дней назад +1

      Let me know how it works! Might be too finesse for Snook and stuff in the mangroves -- the hooks are not designed for pulling giants I guess. Zona about a decade ago had an episode where he was throwing chatterbaits in either Florida or Louisiana, the big jacks could not resist the offering and fight he put on his freshwater flipping stick was epic.

  • @trampledturnip
    @trampledturnip Месяц назад

    Cool video! Picked up a couple after watching, have some places here in Florida I think it will be perfect for.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад +1

      Let me know how it works down south!!

    • @trampledturnip
      @trampledturnip 29 дней назад

      @@BassniperEng Will do! Looking forward to testing them out.

  • @DoctorSess
    @DoctorSess Месяц назад

    Giving away my secrets! Chatterbaits through timber lay downs… crawling and ripping them off the bottom. Got me some big bass that way.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      LOL fancy to meet some Jackall fans here~

  • @gheorghesemlecan8972
    @gheorghesemlecan8972 Месяц назад +1

    My p.b. for northern pike it was 1,24 cm and i use for capture it a Zebco chatterbait

  • @RascalMcGovens
    @RascalMcGovens Месяц назад +1

    If you want something to fish in and around structure, give the grass piece flex a try. It blew my mind.

    • @raychoi4994
      @raychoi4994 Месяц назад

      The grass piece give you the a shimmy fall with a trailer like osp stick. For me, that is unique

  • @alansarpy
    @alansarpy 29 дней назад

    Glad I found your channel... I'd love to see your take on the best rod for a chatter bait !

    • @alansarpy
      @alansarpy 29 дней назад

      I've been throwing the Chatter bait a lot in cold cold water and had one of my best days this year ... I live the Grass piece ... fishes amazing in heavy cover

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  29 дней назад +1

      For Jackhammer I use 2 rods: Megabass 2014 Evoluzion Diablo F5.5-68Ti (for medium to close quarter applications) and Megabass 2017 Destroyer USA Javelin for distant or deep water applications (7-5 MH MF composite rod). I'm sure there are many other great options but I have been a fan of Megabass for over 16 years now. They are not only beautiful but also functional IMO. I'm not a big fan of using glass rods for chatter baits. I fish hard weed/grass a lot, glass rods give too much to jerk the chatter off of the weed, and when they do it creates a huge darting distance. I like the composite or graphites with high power, whose blank bottom kicks in much quicker. When you jerk the rod to pull chatter off the weed, a small quick wrist pump will do it, the chatter comes off with speed but short distance, this is when I found success in triggering those reaction bites. Hope this helps. If you are looking for a chatterbait rod, good luck! If you are interested in Megabass, P5 Blade (very similar to Evo Diablo) or MadBull are both great options.

    • @alansarpy
      @alansarpy 29 дней назад

      @@BassniperEng I have the Madbull! Love it ... I've seen a lot guys throwing the Daemos for the Chatter bait ... Hope I spelled it right lol

    • @alansarpy
      @alansarpy 29 дней назад

      @ just picked a few of these up on eBay! Thanks for a great video

  • @FreiRig
    @FreiRig Месяц назад

    Very informative! If u havent seen already u should take a look at the Gras Piece from Basspuzzle. Also a good weedless chatterbait

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад +2

      Yes that is a spinnierbaitXchatterbait cross over. I have not fished it yet. The Super Break Blade IMO is the most weedless chatter bait ever -- you can let it sit in the middle of the weedbed and drag like a jig and still not get snagged, while still have very good hook up ratio.

  • @dirtyfisherman9188
    @dirtyfisherman9188 3 дня назад

    The grass piece puzzle is the best chatterbait

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  2 дня назад +1

      That's more of a chatterbaiitXspinnerbait hybrid to me. It does work don't get me wrong.

    • @dirtyfisherman9188
      @dirtyfisherman9188 2 дня назад

      @BassniperEng have you tried the new one?

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  2 дня назад +1

      @@dirtyfisherman9188 in hand waiting for the ice to thaw lol

    • @dirtyfisherman9188
      @dirtyfisherman9188 2 дня назад

      @@BassniperEng so I used it a bit when it first come out...trust me you are gonna love it....but here's some game...take the skirt off ..put a 5 inch raid super fish roller...watch it fall...and then look at the flash you get

  • @Rbunton1987
    @Rbunton1987 Месяц назад

    Nories Hula chat is also great in wood.

  • @richardkelley2016
    @richardkelley2016 Месяц назад +1

    Been a huge fan of the evo chatters over jackhammers

  • @kennylowe9404
    @kennylowe9404 4 дня назад +1

    The Z-Man “Crosse eyed” chatterbait has weed gauzes🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  3 дня назад

      cross eyes are much bigger in profile with giant hook, the weed guards are also completely different material and design minus the bottom ones.

  • @depalebe
    @depalebe Месяц назад

    Great detail as always. I will try it. Have you tried the Dstyle Dα-Blade Jig. It has a normal weedguard and a unique wire guard. Thanks

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      Not the unique wire model yet but on my list.

  • @kerrycooperfishing2732
    @kerrycooperfishing2732 8 часов назад

    Where can I order these ?

  • @Fishing_Rod_Engineer
    @Fishing_Rod_Engineer Месяц назад +1

    How does this compare to the Z-man Crosseyes? Both have the wire weed guard. 🤔

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад +1

      Cross eye's hooks are way bigger, also does not have the bottom wire guard. This one is more finesse oriented.

  • @MarcusSpjut
    @MarcusSpjut 29 дней назад

    It's a 26$ lure here in sweden and just come in two colors in the local shop but I probebly will pick up atleast one but wont put it into the water without a foot of 0.6fc leader to secure it from pike. My favorit bladed-jig is the eye-chatter and that's a 7$ lure. :P Just found you channel but i will sub and stick around great, detail info. :)

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  29 дней назад

      Try Digitaka, JLS and Asianportal. The Fine version is around $8 a piece, problem is they are gone fast. Thanks for the support!

  • @muskyvictim
    @muskyvictim Месяц назад

    Greetings from northern Michigan Petoskey area again . I love Jackall apparel also such as the Thermoforce coat it's low teens right now and I'm almost sweating 😅

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад +1

      How many fish so far? Beer (if not frozen yet) in hand?

    • @muskyvictim
      @muskyvictim Месяц назад +1

      @BassniperEng 6 # smallmouth last month no LM just pike . My little mania has not abated yet btw , I've collected 3 DRT varial handles and 5 Klash 9s 😱.
      Oh , like the Jackall double fleece pants too , again very warm .
      It's great seeing you again Basssniper! Thank you.
      No alcohol lol I'm almost 5 years sober 😃

    • @tommyrq180
      @tommyrq180 Месяц назад +1

      Where do you get your Jackall apparel? Do you ever get over to Beaver Island for smallmouth? 🇺🇸

    • @muskyvictim
      @muskyvictim Месяц назад +1

      @@tommyrq180 oh I should try Beaver. I caught at least 8 sm bass between 2-6#s in Crooked Lake off banks ( ok I'll divulge at Locks ..) 😁. Apparel from Japan online shops .
      Let's keep in touch if you don't mind so happy met a local here ....I fished almost daily from April to November lol in Petoskey area... Bummer water level is so low now ...I plan on fishing Sturgeon River and Indian more this spring heard and seen nice Muskie there and Cheboygan area! 👌

  • @baliton2006
    @baliton2006 29 дней назад

    Now that the patent is ending hopefully Jackall brings these over to usdm

  • @dauedlex1309
    @dauedlex1309 19 дней назад

    I would like to know how to get the new chatterbate and who sells them David

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  15 дней назад

      Hi David, check out Digitaka, Japan Lure Shop and Asian Portal. Cheers~Jerry

  • @Toey69
    @Toey69 23 дня назад

    Will these chatterbaits catch trout ? Awesome channel.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  23 дня назад +1

      I have yet to catch one on these yet, other species that fell for it including pike, pickerel and crappie (big ones) so far.

    • @Toey69
      @Toey69 23 дня назад

      Thanks bassniper

  • @BayJoua
    @BayJoua Месяц назад

    With the wires on top and bottom, will this make the bait skipless under tight cover?

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      skips like a charm as long as the trailer is right. I roll cast a lot and frequently have unwanted skipping if I had the trajectory on the lower side.

  • @brandondavis7368
    @brandondavis7368 18 дней назад

    What composite rod was you using???

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  15 дней назад

      Ahhhh good eyes lol some hint left at the very end of the vid.

  • @Fishing247-s2p
    @Fishing247-s2p Месяц назад

    Just found you channel wondering where can I order some ? Thx

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      try digitaka, they still have some. Asian portal as well.

  • @bigmikefishingchonicles9950
    @bigmikefishingchonicles9950 14 дней назад

    how can i buy one

  • @DFWdarin
    @DFWdarin 20 дней назад

    zman makes the cross eyed chatterbait with the weed guards

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  15 дней назад +2

      Yes, this one is the finesse version (the fine models). Cross eye are way bigger and heavier and equipped with giant hooks (sort of restricts what king of smaller trailer you can put on).

  • @L0st-n0found
    @L0st-n0found Месяц назад

    So CrossEyeZ charttubait with wire guards?

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      wire guards on top and bottom of the head, plus a much smaller profile (smaller blades, smaller hooks. Wire guard material is different from that used in Cross-eye wire. Way bouncy.

  • @normsweeney3116
    @normsweeney3116 Месяц назад

    Jackhammer has a weedless Chaterbait.....

    • @gman69455
      @gman69455 Месяц назад

      Zman does with the crosseyes but not the jackhammer. The jackhammer comes in standard and stealth blade. No weedless setup.

  • @alanreyes29
    @alanreyes29 29 дней назад

    Where can buy?

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  28 дней назад

      see the pinned message

    • @alanreyes29
      @alanreyes29 28 дней назад

      The pinned message?​@@BassniperEng

  • @secretbassrigs
    @secretbassrigs Месяц назад

    I thought I recognized your accent. I checked your other Channel out. why do you use Kanji writing in the title in your non English Channel when it's all in mandarin?

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад +1

      Kanji is Han Character, which is Chinese, don't see any problem here. If you are referring to "simplified Chinese character简体字" -- I grew up reading books in the "traditional characters正體字" so have no problem switching back and forth, plus the pronunciation are essentially the same.

  • @mikecamalier2653
    @mikecamalier2653 Месяц назад

    Where can you buy this bait. Bassmd

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      Check out Digi and JLS and AP

    • @raychoi4994
      @raychoi4994 Месяц назад

      Just ask proxy buyer like buyee to get it for you. You got all Japanese online vendors .

    • @jasonhayes2778
      @jasonhayes2778 Месяц назад

      @@BassniperEng can you provide links or are this acronyms?

  • @shipwrek4388
    @shipwrek4388 Месяц назад

    Got these 3 years ago mostly sit in my box they're great but still not better than a hammer that little weed guard just picks up more grass. Just my opinion.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  29 дней назад

      The ones came out couple years ago were the Break Blade, which was not too much different from other weedless offerings. Break Blade is different from this one which is now named "Super" Break Blade. Different head design, different hook, no bottom wire guards etc.

  • @Twangtown7
    @Twangtown7 Месяц назад +1

    Why are you calling it Chatterbait when it's not made by Z-Man?

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад +2

      LOL loyalty showing here:-) Still love the Z-man and JHs.

    • @stewy7317
      @stewy7317 Месяц назад +4

      Everyone knows that the term “chatterbait” is just an OG term for a bladed jig. Don’t bust chops over something that 99% of anglers do lol

  • @fishinwithphillip
    @fishinwithphillip 29 дней назад

    You lost me when you said the jackhammer doesn’t work in cold water. 💀

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  29 дней назад +1

      Literally said "does not work well", not "does not work". Give it a try and you will know what I mean. Out fishes Jackhammer in water below 40 F 4:1, especially when need to do bottom hopping in weeds or close to woods.

  • @Friscotxman
    @Friscotxman 29 дней назад

    $30?????? What

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  29 дней назад

      Check out Digitaka, JLS, Asianportal. Fine version is $8 a pop, 3/8 and 1/2 oz is around $11-12

  • @Bassingtv
    @Bassingtv 12 дней назад

    Jackhammer is a cheap built lure. I go with Zman chatterbaits they are better quality overall and always work great I’ve had issues with the jackhammers not working properly all the time the blade always gets stuck.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  8 дней назад

      When they were tied using whatever threads, I had a couple literally lost the skirt after first cast lol

  • @Justin-zw1hx
    @Justin-zw1hx Месяц назад

    兄弟啥时候直播?

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад +1

      诶你怎么追到这里来了哈哈~本周末可以来一波(让我安排一下如果有时间的话在中文频道上预告)。请关注哦

    • @Justin-zw1hx
      @Justin-zw1hx Месяц назад

      @@BassniperEng 好的, 期待

  • @DigitaLIon781
    @DigitaLIon781 Месяц назад

    Them glasses helping you read the text on the teleprompter? Straight up ad the way you sound.

    • @waxknucklebearingjuice5592
      @waxknucklebearingjuice5592 Месяц назад

      I'm guessing English isn't his first language. I'm betting asshole is your native tongue though.

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      I know it's not your fault -- if I had never used it, I might thought this video to be an ad as well LOL And yup, those big glasses definitely reduce eye fatigue after writing and reading my own script for hours -- can't tell you the brand though coz otherwise you calling me running ad for glasses......

  • @FishNFoolLures
    @FishNFoolLures 14 дней назад

    Rotsa ruck lol

  • @robfunke909
    @robfunke909 Месяц назад

    Preferred online retailer? I’m familiar with digi but others not so much

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  Месяц назад

      JLS, AP are also legit. If they don't have it, try use Hedgehog Studio's buyee program

  • @juliofernandez8317
    @juliofernandez8317 18 дней назад

    Chatterbaits are too expensive for me to gamble through any cover

    • @BassniperEng
      @BassniperEng  15 дней назад +1

      I used to think this way until I fished this one. But still gambling unfortunately because of pickerel and pike...