Making Arrowheads with Lapidary Equipment, Lapidary Knapping (HD)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • primitivepathw... Learn how to use lapidary saws and diamond grinders to make ultra-fine arrowheads. No these tools weren't available in prehistory, but their use can greatly reduce stone waste and maximize the amount of points you can make out of rare, semi-precious (and expensive) stone like agate or jaspers that are exotic or limited.
    Billy Berger shows how to use a small lapidary saw and diamond grinder to shape arrowhead blanks. The perfectly smooth and slightly rounded surfaces allow for beautifully even flake scars that resemble ripples of sand. These parallel pressure flakes give the arrowheads a beautiful, pleasing surface appearance. This can be used on all knappable materials like glass, obsidian, jasper, agate, flint, chert, and chalcedony among others.
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Комментарии • 117

  • @masterofnone1481
    @masterofnone1481 4 года назад +35

    You don’t need to defend the techniques you choose to use. Just do you, and let the haters hate 🤙🤙

    • @LuisRamirez-rn8yi
      @LuisRamirez-rn8yi 4 года назад +1

      Chad Snowball great now i have that song stuck in my head

  • @twintwo1429
    @twintwo1429 2 года назад +3

    Native Americans adopted new technology faster than a sponge soaks up water. The want for people to do things the old way, is good for preserving historical knowledge, but not necessary for all. I do both. Thanks Billy.

  • @thefeatheredfrontiersman8135
    @thefeatheredfrontiersman8135 4 года назад +13

    Billy, you and I have come a long way. You were the first one to explain chasing a growth ring. You were also the one to explain what that first pice of shed was really for.
    I feel like this lesson is one of mastery. And I think I'm ready to step up and drop some money on some dichro and opal!
    Just wanted to say thanks, it has changed me forever!

    • @billyberger2462
      @billyberger2462 4 года назад +2

      Thanks so much!! Really glad I've influenced your path in the primitive ways.

  • @jasonpettit9984
    @jasonpettit9984 4 года назад +35

    They would've used a diamond saw if they had it,trust me.

    • @k1j2f30
      @k1j2f30 11 месяцев назад

      I don't think so, they obviously didn't need to! No sense making something more complicated and difficult than necessary.

    • @nelsonx5326
      @nelsonx5326 3 месяца назад

      And a machine gun and a corn popper.

  • @bonesstones6584
    @bonesstones6584 4 года назад +2

    The fact that you didn't snap that agate point while working it on a leather pad is proof of your skillz! Beautiful work dude!

  • @GolanvIgvyi
    @GolanvIgvyi 4 года назад +1

    I am Mi'kmaw. My ancestors were smart people and when a new easier way was found or taught to do something they adopted it. I enjoyed they video very much and if I still used stone tiped arrows I would use your method with one exception. I would just cut and sharpen the stone. Being a blacksmith and knifemaker I forge my own steel points. They are very effective and long lasting. I agree with the comment that you don't need to make excuses.

    • @SenorTucano
      @SenorTucano 4 года назад

      kagitaka tokahe I suspect the serrated edges make the points more effective

  • @louisgibbonitski7454
    @louisgibbonitski7454 4 года назад +5

    Billy boy we love ur videos never stop.

    • @primitivepathways
      @primitivepathways  4 года назад +2

      I don't ever plan on stopping! Thanks so much for your kind words.

  • @Jesus-gz8hn
    @Jesus-gz8hn 4 года назад +5

    I’ve tried flint napping but I have been unsuccessful. I’ve been trying to do it with the glass bottoms but they come out like fat arrowheads lol. You make it seem so easy to send flakes across the surface. Love your videos keep up with the great content!!

    • @billyberger2462
      @billyberger2462 4 года назад +4

      Think I'll make a video showing how to make thin points just to help you out. Thanks for the video idea!

    • @Jesus-gz8hn
      @Jesus-gz8hn 4 года назад

      Thanks that would really help.

    • @franslangendonk6510
      @franslangendonk6510 4 года назад +2

      Keep trying. Don't give up. Bottle Bottoms are not easy. Bottle Bottoms present the same challenges as natural flakes and spalls. Once you've succeeded with your first, it's a breakthrough to a higher level.
      May I suggest Slab Preforms? Buy a few 3" triangular slabs. Try a rock vendor like Neolithics.com or Kentucky Flintworks. You can get 10 for $15.
      One thing that helped immensely but is a $70 investment is a Knapping Jig. It helps you find the right angle to clear the faces of your preform. It helps with precision and learning.

  • @pyrosketcher1490
    @pyrosketcher1490 2 года назад

    Every knapper uses some mixture of traditional and modern tools/techniques, it's the nature of the craft. The purists can cry all they want, those are some beautiful points! Especially on the more artistic side of knapping, it's the quality of the finished product that matters, the techniques are a personal choice of the artist. Great video!

  • @LithicKing
    @LithicKing 4 года назад +10

    Most of the complaints about lapidary knapping come from collectors, and understandably so, due to the fact that many lapidary knappers don't disclaim how they make their points when they list them for sale. Lapidary points don't hold the same value as points made with traditional methods to most collectors. To each their own, as long as you are upfront about it.

    • @twintwo1429
      @twintwo1429 2 года назад +1

      If you can't prove the difference, what is the difference? If you can't tell the difference, then you should never buy one.

    • @pyrosketcher1490
      @pyrosketcher1490 2 года назад

      This comment just makes no sense. By the logic of lapidary points being worth less, it would also stand to reason that points made with copper tools are worth less than those made with abo tools. These are just two different approaches to the same goal.

  • @KowboyUSA
    @KowboyUSA 4 года назад +1

    Bruce Lee probably would've embraced all technologies old and new, then selected the best from them all for use in a given situation. Awesome video.

  • @Timothyh3nry
    @Timothyh3nry 4 года назад +6

    Just stunning! Always a pleasure to see an artist at work :)

  • @MaciejNaumienko
    @MaciejNaumienko 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful and to the point

  • @franslangendonk6510
    @franslangendonk6510 4 года назад +1

    What a gallery at the end of your presentation! Gorgeous points!
    I was taught Lapidary as an 18 year old and loved it. I've been knapping now for about 2 years. I love it even more! The movie Alpha set me off.
    Your combining the two arts is 21st Century Knapping. Nothing wrong with it when honest about it.
    Always enjoy your vids.
    Beste

  • @lesliehunt2117
    @lesliehunt2117 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this Billy. I have lapidary equipment and I am going to try some of this. Stay safe my friend.

  • @patriotknight
    @patriotknight 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video Billy! Love these video's from you🤙. You were the very first person I ever saw on youtube (in 2015), that peaked my interest in primitive living skills.

  • @dmaschy599
    @dmaschy599 3 года назад

    She is a beauty,so nice and I like your work.

  • @markdamico4608
    @markdamico4608 Год назад +1

    absolutely superb work and the bilateral delicate symmetry makes my brain glow. I would like to share some of my art with you sometime. I describe it as visual representations of a pheromone based hallucinogenic conveying family crests of advanced insect clans of Aristarchus'

  • @k1j2f30
    @k1j2f30 11 месяцев назад

    Not historical flintknapping in the purist respect, however it is another artform. Very beautiful points!

  • @tammyrussell8653
    @tammyrussell8653 4 года назад

    Wow very delicate and beautiful

  • @sleezyshov8166
    @sleezyshov8166 4 года назад +2

    Great video big dog keep it up

  • @sleezyshov8166
    @sleezyshov8166 4 года назад +2

    Insane work you showed of at the end wow

  • @dmaschy599
    @dmaschy599 3 года назад

    I like that point,I think it is beautiful.

  • @toddweatherford7394
    @toddweatherford7394 Год назад

    Every one, STUNNING!

  • @sumba1231
    @sumba1231 2 года назад

    This video is underrated. couldn't find anyone else doing this and I have been looking for using technology on flint rocks. i hope to see a dagger made this way

  • @donbeary6394
    @donbeary6394 4 года назад

    I was able to purchase a beautiful knife with an exquisite knapped tiger eye obsidian 6" blade at the Crow Fair in Montana .. I suspect that it was from a cut blank because it's perfectly parallel thickness at about 5/16" and the flutes run all the way across its 2" width ... and the incredibly low price i payed for such a work of art .. Thank you Billy, I am always in awe of skills turned all the way into art

  • @jimrichards8744
    @jimrichards8744 Год назад

    Wow! Fantastic work!

  • @dmaschy599
    @dmaschy599 3 года назад

    Very delicate work,you have to think about you are doing.

  • @jeffsmeltzer6888
    @jeffsmeltzer6888 4 года назад +1

    Brilliant idea! That's beautiful work!

  • @48vdcwrld
    @48vdcwrld 4 года назад

    I've followed a lot of knappers, and have cut stone for jewelry. I actually never gave it any thought, but the potential is boundless, Thank you...

  • @fischerkrull7516
    @fischerkrull7516 4 года назад +2

    Damn Billy you’ve outdone yourself! I think I see a Clovis coming out of one of those. Great content as always

  • @AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
    @AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 4 года назад +1

    SO awesome to see you back, Billy. Missed ya! 💪

  • @jackreeves3001
    @jackreeves3001 2 года назад

    Inspiring Billy, thanks for showing new technology in this ancient art. Thanks for sharing your time and talent! It is very appreciated! KANSAS

  • @Tatorhead1234
    @Tatorhead1234 4 года назад +4

    What's a man gotta do for you to send a signed head that you've made?

  • @dmaschy599
    @dmaschy599 3 года назад

    If I find a way to make these beautiful points with a saw I will do it and be proud of the work I finished.I collected the real thing for years,I had hundreds of them witch I lost I a divorce.I used to sip wine and look at my collection,it was beautiful.

    • @primitivepathways
      @primitivepathways  3 года назад +1

      So sorry to hear about you losing all your points in that divorce. I've seen too many good men chopped in half by family courts led by a vindictive woman. That's one of the many reasons why I'll never get married. There are no benefits to a man nowadays unfortunately.

    • @signaturerush
      @signaturerush 2 года назад

      Man, she took your arrowheads? That is brutal. I’ve never heard anything like that. I hope you find some more arrowheads man.

  • @maxprophet2401
    @maxprophet2401 4 года назад

    I've tried this with cheaper quality diamond saws, maybe too impatiently. All cut edges seemed to be highly abraded or fracked, so grainy and chunky that the entire piece was un-knappable. I had little trouble knapping with identical unground pieces. I've been keeping an eye out for better quality diamond wheel/lapidary grinder wheels like yours. Glad to see you've successfully done this before spending the $ on lap. quality discs.

  • @billbrown6722
    @billbrown6722 4 года назад

    Very good to learn. I want to make a number of like sized obsidian points to hunt with. I think this is the best option and not so wasteful. It's a long way to get more.

  • @davidzendejas4420
    @davidzendejas4420 4 года назад +5

    Beautiful points, awesome work as always

  • @draven3838
    @draven3838 3 года назад

    I never tire of watching these videos ,exquisite work

  • @matthewdriggers2928
    @matthewdriggers2928 4 года назад

    Awesome video. Ishi was a master, he was able to get some long and thin screamers. He would be proud of your work.

  • @williamboyd776
    @williamboyd776 4 года назад

    WOW!!! People who talk crap obviously haven't seen all your videos. I have & m thankful for all the knowledge you've shared. I watched you knap the tiny point fully by hand n it was kewl, but these my brother are truly amazing. I m a First Nations man of the Delaware, or in our toung, "Lenape", people and love to learn all things the greed of the whites tried to destroy. Would love to watch the video on whitewood bows you guys put together. And more than anything would love to be a part of what y'all are doing. It would be a great pleasure & honor to meet the three of you & be able to pick y'all's brains. My first bow was black locust n I thank you for everything you've shared to make it possible. Wanishi & Yahweh's blessings to you all

  • @talkeetna911ify
    @talkeetna911ify 4 года назад +1

    Stunning 😀

  • @glennlewis835
    @glennlewis835 11 месяцев назад

    Beautiful arrowheads! How do they get attached to shafts for hunting?

  • @WaschyNumber1
    @WaschyNumber1 2 года назад

    They look Awesome 🖖 👍

  • @HHProfessional-Driver
    @HHProfessional-Driver 4 года назад +1

    amazing

  • @justanotherbrickinthewall2843
    @justanotherbrickinthewall2843 4 года назад +1

    "Artistic license" 👍🏻😉

  • @Archaeopteryx128
    @Archaeopteryx128 4 года назад +1

    Cool!
    Where would one buy a small saw like that?

  • @richardcummings7079
    @richardcummings7079 3 года назад

    Amazingly beautiful.

  • @faisalponywala7614
    @faisalponywala7614 4 года назад

    Watched it without blink of eye, love it definitely will try it. Thanks . ☺

  • @kb8030
    @kb8030 2 года назад

    Wow brother! You did friggin’ unbelievable work here. I’m very very impressed and have thought of trying lapidary tools on nice chert but never tried it. Man, you’ve great success it seems to make all those mind blowing points, can I ask how many have failed ? Not knocking you at all, just curious as to your success rate. Great video and you got a thumbs up and sun new buddy!!!

  • @rattlerboi4034
    @rattlerboi4034 3 года назад

    GIANT POINT, holy hell i could never imagin makin one that big

  • @juanitamccaslin6184
    @juanitamccaslin6184 4 года назад

    You are correct in saying their exsquisit!

  • @58landman
    @58landman 3 года назад

    Those are stunning. I think it would be a hoot to take a few of those beauties and scatter them randomly in a field or dry creek bed where children could find them. Doesn't matter if they never know the truth, the joy of discovery and watching kids get excited would be worth it.
    I found a few arrowheads as a kid but haven't hunted in years but I have a strong interest in the hobby. I was looking at some beauties that others have posted on YT and it occurred to me that some of those points are so pretty and delicate that I began to think that they may have been made by women.
    We tend to think that men, with nothing to do all day but hunt or sit around and watch other people work, were probably the ones who made tools and weapons and to some degree that may be true. But, Native American women were (and still are, of course) consummate artists in pottery and other aspects of art and there is no reason to dismiss the idea that some of the loveliest and articulate work on arrow heads was likely completed by women.

  • @garyharmon1155
    @garyharmon1155 4 года назад

    Very pretty points, you got skills brother.

  • @tylertrombley9481
    @tylertrombley9481 4 года назад +1

    Can you make a video on how to make a point out of quartz?

  • @detroitredneckdetroitredne6674
    @detroitredneckdetroitredne6674 4 года назад +2

    My got a big beef bone from the pet store and made 9 bone arrow head's he and his 2 kids got 3 deer 🏹🏹🏹🦌🦌🦌

  • @281covfefe5
    @281covfefe5 4 года назад

    Thnxs for uploading and sharing
    👍🏻🇺🇸

  • @wesleytyl8594
    @wesleytyl8594 4 года назад

    Where the saw and grinder both lapidary brand? Also how much did each cost? Where is a good place to purchase these machines? All the sources I have found are to expensive or are more/bigger than necessary.

  • @bismarkvillanueva8025
    @bismarkvillanueva8025 10 месяцев назад

    Im pinoy if ever goong to make rock glass arrow heads ill probably will follow you style make many blanks possible and knap napp them at home

  • @Rdrake1413
    @Rdrake1413 4 года назад

    Beautiful work

  • @osbaldohernandez9174
    @osbaldohernandez9174 4 года назад +1

    Hey billy could u do another arrow quiver video or show to sinew back bows

  • @dmaschy599
    @dmaschy599 3 года назад

    That beautiful material,where can it be found?

    • @primitivepathways
      @primitivepathways  3 года назад

      A lot of that material is agate from Brazil, but I have all kinds of stone that I pick up/buy from various folks who sell it. You can buy agate slabs and rock and gem shows and they have some really pretty stuff there. That's a great place to look.

  • @johnfugate3432
    @johnfugate3432 Год назад

    Nice

  • @yankeetimeline
    @yankeetimeline 4 года назад

    Cool video. I do a lot of Lapidary work and this looks like it would be fun.

  • @markbranham7451
    @markbranham7451 4 года назад

    Can't wait to see more videos.

  • @warnerhome1
    @warnerhome1 2 года назад

    Hi Billy, did you heat treat that agate?

    • @primitivepathways
      @primitivepathways  2 года назад +2

      Yes I did but I didn't get it hot enough so it was still a bit grainy tough. I cooked it again and took some of the other pieces to a higher temperature and it glassed up a lot more. It worked a lot better after I cooked it a 2nd time.

  • @richardcummings7079
    @richardcummings7079 3 года назад

    Do you sell ground preforms?

  • @Wertak68
    @Wertak68 4 года назад

    This is how I got started. Here is the funny thing flake over grind IS an ancient technique. Egyptians did it for flint knives and so did the Danish dagger makers.

  • @draven3838
    @draven3838 4 года назад

    I've got about 20 lbs of Brazilian agate ,and it is tuff even on a good day

  • @bobbyrandomguy1489
    @bobbyrandomguy1489 4 года назад

    incredible!!!

  • @conifergreen2
    @conifergreen2 4 года назад

    Where did you get those diamond belts for the wheels on the grinder?

    • @lesliehunt2117
      @lesliehunt2117 4 года назад

      Try Rio Grande Supply in new mexico.

  • @dmaschy599
    @dmaschy599 3 года назад

    My friend,I think that if you are going to make or flake points,you should know the many ways to create such points.You can always say if the American Indians could have found easyer ways to create these points,I am sure they would have turned tword these more productive ways.

  • @shanek6582
    @shanek6582 4 года назад

    I tried flaking those Brazilian agate and I couldn’t get a good concoidal fracture, do you heat treat them or something?

    • @primitivepathways
      @primitivepathways  4 года назад +1

      Yeah you have to heat treat it. Raw brazillian agate is so grainy and tough that it's not really usable for making arrowheads. But when it's cooked, it becomes very glassy, pretty, and it works MUCH better, like high quality flint.

    • @chucklearnslithics3751
      @chucklearnslithics3751 4 года назад

      @@primitivepathways I've never had much luck heat treating them. I have a kiln. What temp and time is working for you?

    • @shanek6582
      @shanek6582 4 года назад

      Chuck Learns Lithics, yes, I’d also love to know the temp and time, thank you sir.

  • @LuisRamirez-rn8yi
    @LuisRamirez-rn8yi 4 года назад

    Where did you get those stones??

  • @osbaldohernandez9174
    @osbaldohernandez9174 4 года назад +1

    Nice vid

  • @nelsonx5326
    @nelsonx5326 3 месяца назад

    Jewelry.

  • @ShopMcc-yl8rv
    @ShopMcc-yl8rv 3 месяца назад

    ما اسم هذه الأحجار

  • @jacksonljsne8461
    @jacksonljsne8461 4 года назад +1

    Nobody think that you are only using modern technology to make arrowheads we all know your the master at flintknapoing

  • @user-zc2xl2fy3u
    @user-zc2xl2fy3u 4 месяца назад

    I also can do percussion but I have been doing more slabs at the rate some of these guy’s taking a boulder and coming out with a 6 inch point material will start to get hard to find 😂

  • @tiffanybriley6871
    @tiffanybriley6871 4 года назад

    Nothing at all wrong about 'cheating' with a diamond wheel!

  • @jorgemeza5031
    @jorgemeza5031 4 года назад

    Can I have one of those beautiful points

  • @megnemo6403
    @megnemo6403 4 года назад

    Ooooh I want one of those does that make me seem weird.

  • @ANXIETOR
    @ANXIETOR 4 года назад

    Bill, you’ve really got to put a workbench in your garage, or a shed.

    • @primitivepathways
      @primitivepathways  4 года назад +2

      Yeah I know. The thing is, I like to be able to take the saw and grinder outside because they are kinda messy.

  • @afrosal8693
    @afrosal8693 4 года назад

    Dude I build your bow, but you don't have a video on bowstring

  • @lazyles875
    @lazyles875 2 года назад

    My brother gave me a blue agate before he died now I know why.

  • @yello4bangazuki147
    @yello4bangazuki147 4 года назад

    You could have bought the chiefs horse with some of these bad boys.

  • @megnemo6403
    @megnemo6403 4 года назад

    But they would have used it if they had had it

  • @jengasias
    @jengasias 2 года назад

    Can't run with the big dogs... stay on the porch.

  • @rickwilliams821
    @rickwilliams821 Год назад

    ú

  • @citizen762
    @citizen762 4 года назад

    I’m sorry Billy, but you are simply not pure enough. 😢

    • @citizen762
      @citizen762 4 года назад

      You’ll have start marking a date on these because otherwise 1000 years from now archaeologists will be teaching about a unique culture of secret primitive stone tool artisans from the Georgia region whose work exceeded all in the known world. 😁

  • @shawnhollahan590
    @shawnhollahan590 3 месяца назад

    CHEATER