The antennas with the lump in them are sleeved dipoles and yes, they have a slightly higher gain than a simple 1/4 wave whip but more importantly, they have a more even radiation pattern so there are fewer null points and thus the range will be more consistent with varying orientation.
Interesting stuff, I too tested four alternative antenna types with this receiver, mainly in an attempt to get the antennas outside my plane fuse, those stock originals being very short. In the results at 300m range set across my property clear run, I got a base line reading of -74db using the originals, however I got nothing better than -78 with all others, including gp monopoles, 33mm element 130mm wire monopoles, frsky tx antennas and a long set of gp monopoles (180mm). The worst reading being with these at -86db. I then tried trimming the 130mm wire dipoles to exactly 23mm element length, but could only get -79db, I then cut the total length to match the flysky originals with 33mm element and got 81db, trimming back to 23 still couldn't match originals at -75db despite now looking identical. I then repeated all the tests to confirm everything, I used a jig at each end to replicate exact positioning. Here's the witchcraft bit, i also tested an alternative course through trees but with two types only, the originals and the 130mm wire dipoles @33mm element, and the originals were now worse than the 33mm ones by 4db at 100 metres through 12 fully grown, full foliage birch trees in a row... very strange, it was this that made me repeat all the tests, but just inexplicable. Anyway, whatever magic they are using to get such amazing performance from what appear to be incorrectly tuned antennas (except for tree penetration) is anybodies guess, just don't try to make your own replacements :( Apologies for the rant, but as always you presented another great video and with interesting results.
bulky bit on the antenna is a 1/4 wave sleeve balun, used because coaxial cable is unbalanced but the antenna is balanced; the choke stops the shield of the coax radiating.
External smd attenuators are great for range testing when there is no option for lowering power, assuming you have a transmitter that has an external antenna socket in the first place. Inconclusive test is also a good test. I think 2.3km is enough for most typical uses, especially in countries that require line of site.
With turbowing amps on each Antenna line on my fs-i10 tx and ia6b rx's I regularly fly to 5000ft whilst 1.5 miles out, it will go further but my video is at its limits at that range :/
I just made simple antena mod on the transmitter and with my foam plane I managed to go 3km and still haven't lost signal. This FlySky radio is the best!
antenna theory is verging on the mystical... the dipole ones usually have less than the quarter wavelength 31.25mm because of the speed of light travelling down the wire....... i stopped listening there and wished i hadn't asked..., the 23mm made me worry it was supposed to be dipole but didnt get the little bullet casing part put on... the 33mm threw out all previous theories because its too long.... and remember, you do the walk of shame, so we don't have to.
Iforce2D: I see that you have marked your mounting block for a 2nd camera, and I remember that you were intending to explore binocular virtual reality video in a previous YT video. Did you ever follow up on that? I'd love to see the details!! - Jim
Hello, I have the X6b receiver and the flysky i6x transmitter, and when I am at 300 m. the RSSI signal is less than 25%. Can you tell me please what am I doing wrong? Thanks.
Hello. I am using some 1 mm steel wire to hold the antennas in position like yours but there are not long to overlap the tip where the wire is exposed. Do you think this affects the signal? I cannot go further than 300 meters and i reach alarm of 15 dB.
Have you tired the x6b on true dipoles like the ia6b comes with? In a foam board plane I'm building at the moment and I'm going to be trying out the x6b with the true dipoles that are fitted Inside the i6 and i10 transmitters, both my transmitters have been converted to sma sockets so have the stock internal antennas kicking about. Only ever flown on the ia6b till now so interested to see what range I get from the configuration I'm going to be using. I dont know if it's an error on the paper specs or not but the x6b appears to have a lower sensitivity than the ia6b.
I think you'd get better performance with true dipoles, not really an expert though. I don't have any to try. Oh wait... "like the ia6b comes with" I think those are called sleeve monopole. I have not tried them with the x6b but I suppose it would become essentially the same thing as the ia6b.
@@iforce2d technically the Sleeve antenna is a end fed dipole, the metal sleeve is acting as the opposing radiating element. I'll have this build airborne soon buy my overall distance results won't apply to others other than if the x6b manages more range than the ia6b as I'm running amps on both tx antenna lines and already get considerably more range than others on a stock setup.
Interesting - am now considering FlySky FS-i6X Tx Bit of a naughty Q... was looking at a Taranis but the FS-i6X being £100 cheaper has me a thinking so which one do you think...joe
thank you for all vids. Sure, you are right with antenna. The better is the strongest one. It's called in French: "Antenne a jupe". I just tested one of them with a vector analyser. It match perfect at 2.4GHz return loss is about -20dB witch is perfect. These kind of antenna doesn't require groud plane. it's is not the same for a quater wave antenna, to have a good return loss, they need ground plane. And... there is no ground plane at the end of a coaxial cable ! So I'm sure that these antenna are... BAD ! regards
Hi. Interesting vidéo for FlySky part, ans also jour DIY quad simply made with wood parts. I'm interested with you GPS. Do you use BetaFlight or iNav ? I could you drive well the RTH mode, and may be the switch between the GPS mode, and the manual mode. I have also the FSi6 and is it easy to watch telemetry informations on the RC screen. Or do you use the OSD on your video receipter ? Regards.
We might be talking about different things. You can specify a value for each channel that it should be set to when signal is lost, is what I'm meaning. Pretty sure that works with ibus.
Hi, I have a question that you may or may not be able to answer. I bought the KingKong 210gt and it came with a FlySky i6 and the ia6 receiver. I want to upgrade it to get better range. I don't know if I should get the ia6b or the new x6b. I've heard i.bus and s.bus are better connections than the pwm that comes setup already, but I am not sure if I can use i.bus. The FC is the KingKong f3 micro one. hobbyking.com/en_us/micro-f3.html and the manual says it supports s.bus. Does that mean it should also support i.bus? Thanks for any help you have.
If you're running a recent version of cleanflight or betaflight it will support ibus. That's a firmware thing. I don't really have time to do research on FCs that I don't own myself, but usually a serial connection will use receiver pins 3 and 4, so if you have those available on that FC you should be good.
iforce2d I know this cost as much as my diversity monitor but it's supposed to be worth the money www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GP5E9P6/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_1?colid=2KX91I3W68QAV&coliid=I10TLO5VH89T8O
The 23mm should be correct length for the 2.4 band, if you vary from that it can go wonky. My guess is it one were to trim 33mm lengths to 23mm you would have better results. It all has to do with wavelength.
That at my level is beyond me :-). One usually finds the best results at 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 or full wave. I do believe 3/8 wave will work too, not sure on that though.
hello, good information. im just a little confused about my drone (wizard x220s- ATF) i bought the RC, battery, charger. but i dnt know how "bind it" with RC and receiver, I dont know if im missing cables for it..??? also i have this three little wires coming out from my drone, for what it is? (White,yellow, black) is for connect it into my receiver. PLZ ANYONE HELP ME! IM NEW IN THIS
The receiver will usually have either a button on it (press it while powering up to enter bind mode) or a pin that should be connected to ground (same thing, have it connected to ground while powering up). Then on the radio there will either be a binding feature in the menu somewhere, or for this FlySky radio you hold the bind button while turning it on - remember to select the model you want to bind for first.
@@iforce2d I notice that my transmitter wont turn on, my transmitter wont power Im getting a new one, i have now the iA6B, I like the one in the video and is compatible with my RC Flysky iA6x
If you have anymore issues, there’s a Facebook group called “drone racing - beginners group” there are many people with a lot of valuable information as this hobby has such a steep learning curve
The real conclusion i see here, is that this helical antenna is absolutly not working better than the usual one, no ? Still amazed by the range you can have on a stock Radio
Thanks ! "In other words, at a specified data rate, a receiver with a −98 dBm sensitivity can hear signals that are half the power of those heard by a receiver with a −95 dBm receiver sensitivity." So on paper, ia6b wins by a laaarge margin. I'm wondering what kind of range I can get from my devo 7e with 7105 module. Probably less than the flysky TX wich has 2 antennas. . . Love the frame btw !
Two antennas dont give you more output but they can be used for better polarization or for splitting the telemetry data apart. One for transmitting and one for reception. But then, they should not have different orientation. For the Devo. The range might be the same under the condition, you use a well made swivel antenna and pay much antention on the polarization of the antennas. A little loss will be there due the screw connection though. The A7105 is capable of a 100mW output as well. If you are using the AFHDS A2 protocol on the Devo, there is no downside.
Hi. Sorry for commenting on an old video, but I have a nice question. Have you used FS-i6X or the old FS-i6X as transmitter? At 11:20 you are using the old one to check failsafe :)
Love this video. I used to make prototypes for 12GHz things and I am skeptical about the cavity enclosure they put up on the x6b, and I worry if that only adds weight for my 2 once craft. The cavity seems to be suitable for 5GHz things.
Yes. The can around. Usually civilian applications don't need that, unless, for that dimension/size, it is 5+Ghz and there are some cavity resonator as part of the enclosure.
The cage is not absolutely critical if it is just there as a shield. But, if you have a cavity resonator in the 12Ghz application, the cage becomes absolutely necessary. 5+GHz can't use quartz for resonator. That is why big CPUs don't go over 5+GHz. Instead they go for multi core.
Which replacement antennas did you order? could you provide a link? i mistakenly ordered 5 replacement antennas for an frsky receiver thinking they would fit.
I think the optimal length for the exposed part of the wire is 31mm for 2.4ghz. I also have been wondering why the FlySky receivers have varying lengths shorter than 31mm. The lengths are not consistent. On all my FrSky receivers the lengths are very consistent and in the range of 31mm so I'm not sure what's going on...
Correct. As I said in the video, that is as far as I am able to fly on my property. If you need more than 2km you probably should be using different frequencies anyway.
Hello, I got to say, I love your video!I am wondering if you could please help me?I bought x6b and skyline32 advance. I am hoping once I have successfully connected the fc to the receiver I will be purchasing a gps module. Now however I am struggling to connect the receiver to the fc?Could you please help?Many thanks
Way too vague. You mean your fingers keep slipping when you try to push the plug in? :) Look at this question from my perspective, it is impossible to answer. There is a LOT of information out there on this, try reading the docs for whatever flight controller you are using.
Thanks for doing the flight range tests. 16:44 doesn't the I6X TX have a range test switch to attenuate the output signal for ground range walk testing ?? If it does... you could test the 2 RX to max ground range.
Hi, at 1:52 you mentioned the 23mm antennas vs. the 33mm antennas. The 23mm is closer to the length used for a 2.4ghz radio system (+/- 26mm). Personally, I like to make my 2.4g antennas with 25mm pole lengths for better tx and rx across the 2.4 band. Check out IBCrazy's calculations on RCGroups: www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1388264-Build-IBCrazy-s-Cloverleaf-The-ultimate-circularly-polarized-aerial-antenna! All the best and Happy flying!
There must be something wrong with that helical -- you should have seen a much better improvement with that than with the skew-planar. Is it an Aomway helical by any chance?
I think that's what was concluded. I think the old school ia6b is also better for rc fixed wing airplane flying. but if that's not the case , tell me which one i need for rc fixed wing airplane flying?
Thanks for all the great videos. I'm trying to set up INAV failsafe return to home as you have done, but it's not working. I've the fs-i6 transmitter. Any suggestions?
faced with the same problem with i6b. By default, ia6b receiver keeps sending the flight controller "last good reading" when signal is lost. This behavior can be re-defined in "RX Settings" menu on transmitter itself. You can set desired readings for all channels which receiver will produce in case of lost signal. Check on the internet, there is plenty of articles describing this solution in details.
Hello, 33mm is far too long, more than a quarter wave. To put some light on this for those who are interested, please read on at these two links. 1. post two... www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1516397 2, and the basics.... www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2371720 Hope this will help to find the correct length for your antennas. I am very pleased with your way of testing the stuff. Keep on , thanks a lot.
I know, was just thinking about the props when I saw you didn't make it back with the last flight due to the battery. Doesn't matter, just an observation.
Cool, thanks! I'm trying to build my own quad (parts here) but I'm having difficulty finding the right OSD, also because of limits in space. Parts: www.gearbest.com/multi-rotor-parts/pp_427259.html FlySky FS I6X 7 X6B Eachine TX526 Emax 5.8GHz Eachine VR-007 Pro Seriousl Pro Racing F3 OSD (PDB) DAL T5045 V2 tri-blade Turnigy Nano-Tech 1300mAh 4S
Seriously Pro Racing F3 OSD? If the flight controller has an OSD onboard, you will be able to use betaflight/inav to set it up pretty easily. I don't think it does though...
Hi, first of all, thanks for nicely done and very informative video. It's nice to see a high quality material among all the underage morons shouting out their opinions on the internet. Yours - a pleasure to watch. But to the point - I'm very new to all this drone fun, just planning to build my first one. I want to create something small, but full of features. So it will be mini quad frame, but it's going to be more of a fun-testing-ground machine than a racer. Oh, and unfortunately ona budget too. I've been thinking about FS-I6X transmitter, but most of them are sold by chinese with x6b receiver. Will I be able to send telemetry back to the receiver with x6b, or do I need ia6b? Actually I like ia6b form factor more, the case seem to be more study than a naked pcb. You seem to be pretty proficient with all these drone stuff, would you mind being nagged by a newbie a little bit? I'm struggling with existential dilemmas choosing parts... .) Maybe you could advise: www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2809492-PDB-LC-filter-or-not
Could you tell me what gps module is best for the flip 32 without taking off the board compass ? Also can you tell me what’s firmware you run ? Inav ??
Being from Holland I am considering using a wooden shoe for a copter.
hahahahaha
Goed idee
The antennas with the lump in them are sleeved dipoles and yes, they have a slightly higher gain than a simple 1/4 wave whip but more importantly, they have a more even radiation pattern so there are fewer null points and thus the range will be more consistent with varying orientation.
Interesting - the idea of signal varying with orientation always bugs me when I'm flying far away like this.
What a luxury to have all that space to work with :)
Interesting stuff, I too tested four alternative antenna types with this receiver, mainly in an attempt to get the antennas outside my plane fuse, those stock originals being very short. In the results at 300m range set across my property clear run, I got a base line reading of -74db using the originals, however I got nothing better than -78 with all others, including gp monopoles, 33mm element 130mm wire monopoles, frsky tx antennas and a long set of gp monopoles (180mm). The worst reading being with these at -86db. I then tried trimming the 130mm wire dipoles to exactly 23mm element length, but could only get -79db, I then cut the total length to match the flysky originals with 33mm element and got 81db, trimming back to 23 still couldn't match originals at -75db despite now looking identical. I then repeated all the tests to confirm everything, I used a jig at each end to replicate exact positioning. Here's the witchcraft bit, i also tested an alternative course through trees but with two types only, the originals and the 130mm wire dipoles @33mm element, and the originals were now worse than the 33mm ones by 4db at 100 metres through 12 fully grown, full foliage birch trees in a row... very strange, it was this that made me repeat all the tests, but just inexplicable. Anyway, whatever magic they are using to get such amazing performance from what appear to be incorrectly tuned antennas (except for tree penetration) is anybodies guess, just don't try to make your own replacements :(
Apologies for the rant, but as always you presented another great video and with interesting results.
love your wooden quads. havent seen one on this channel for a long time!
Me too! Make a wooden tricopter please!
No way to avoid subbing... I'm looking at your videos page. You're a hero.
bulky bit on the antenna is a 1/4 wave sleeve balun, used because coaxial cable is unbalanced but the antenna is balanced; the choke stops the shield of the coax radiating.
Impressive, both the wooden frame & the farm : )
External smd attenuators are great for range testing when there is no option for lowering power, assuming you have a transmitter that has an external antenna socket in the first place.
Inconclusive test is also a good test. I think 2.3km is enough for most typical uses, especially in countries that require line of site.
2.2km with the original transmitter? Or you have modifications on it? best regards
With turbowing amps on each Antenna line on my fs-i10 tx and ia6b rx's I regularly fly to 5000ft whilst 1.5 miles out, it will go further but my video is at its limits at that range :/
I just made simple antena mod on the transmitter and with my foam plane I managed to go 3km and still haven't lost signal. This FlySky radio is the best!
I'm impressed. that thing can fly!
antenna theory is verging on the mystical... the dipole ones usually have less than the quarter wavelength 31.25mm because of the speed of light travelling down the wire....... i stopped listening there and wished i hadn't asked..., the 23mm made me worry it was supposed to be dipole but didnt get the little bullet casing part put on... the 33mm threw out all previous theories because its too long.... and remember, you do the walk of shame, so we don't have to.
Omg the og versacopter! And a yi n that's dope! Old skool!
Dude your drone is impressive
Hi ,please make video about the frame...
Iforce2D: I see that you have marked your mounting block for a 2nd camera, and I remember that you were intending to explore binocular virtual reality video in a previous YT video. Did you ever follow up on that? I'd love to see the details!! - Jim
Hello, I have the X6b receiver and the flysky i6x transmitter, and when I am at 300 m. the RSSI signal is less than 25%. Can you tell me please what am I doing wrong? Thanks.
Hello. I am using some 1 mm steel wire to hold the antennas in position like yours but there are not long to overlap the tip where the wire is exposed. Do you think this affects the signal? I cannot go further than 300 meters and i reach alarm of 15 dB.
As long as the wire is clear of the end of the antenna it should be ok.
Have you tired the x6b on true dipoles like the ia6b comes with?
In a foam board plane I'm building at the moment and I'm going to be trying out the x6b with the true dipoles that are fitted Inside the i6 and i10 transmitters, both my transmitters have been converted to sma sockets so have the stock internal antennas kicking about.
Only ever flown on the ia6b till now so interested to see what range I get from the configuration I'm going to be using.
I dont know if it's an error on the paper specs or not but the x6b appears to have a lower sensitivity than the ia6b.
I think you'd get better performance with true dipoles, not really an expert though. I don't have any to try.
Oh wait... "like the ia6b comes with" I think those are called sleeve monopole. I have not tried them with the x6b but I suppose it would become essentially the same thing as the ia6b.
@@iforce2d technically the Sleeve antenna is a end fed dipole, the metal sleeve is acting as the opposing radiating element.
I'll have this build airborne soon buy my overall distance results won't apply to others other than if the x6b manages more range than the ia6b as I'm running amps on both tx antenna lines and already get considerably more range than others on a stock setup.
impressive drone
Interesting - am now considering FlySky FS-i6X Tx
Bit of a naughty Q... was looking at a Taranis but the FS-i6X being £100 cheaper has me a thinking so which one do you think...joe
Is there a module to convert Tx to Spektrum DSM2/DSMX...joe
thank you for all vids.
Sure, you are right with antenna. The better is the strongest one. It's called in French: "Antenne a jupe". I just tested one of them with a vector analyser. It match perfect at 2.4GHz return loss is about -20dB witch is perfect. These kind of antenna doesn't require groud plane. it's is not the same for a quater wave antenna, to have a good return loss, they need ground plane. And... there is no ground plane at the end of a coaxial cable ! So I'm sure that these antenna are... BAD !
regards
Hey bro, how to setup your flysky i6x with x6b connect to your drone??can you make a video about that.. Thanks
ruclips.net/p/PLzidsatoEzejIpdla6_ggPcDCPJ9u4WHj
Hi.
Interesting vidéo for FlySky part, ans also jour DIY quad simply made with wood parts.
I'm interested with you GPS. Do you use BetaFlight or iNav ? I could you drive well the RTH mode, and may be the switch between the GPS mode, and the manual mode. I have also the FSi6 and is it easy to watch telemetry informations on the RC screen. Or do you use the OSD on your video receipter ?
Regards.
I was using iNav here. The most convenient way to view telemetry is with an OSD display.
The x6b receiver, did you use pwm or ppm? in the description in BG I saw failsafe is only available in pwm mode?
I use ibus, failsafe works fine.
Why does it say failsafe only works with ppm and pwm in the receiver documentation?
the receiver itself has a failsafe feature, but only works with ppm, with ibus you stil can use Betafligth failsafe.
We might be talking about different things. You can specify a value for each channel that it should be set to when signal is lost, is what I'm meaning. Pretty sure that works with ibus.
Hi, I have a question that you may or may not be able to answer. I bought the KingKong 210gt and it came with a FlySky i6 and the ia6 receiver. I want to upgrade it to get better range. I don't know if I should get the ia6b or the new x6b. I've heard i.bus and s.bus are better connections than the pwm that comes setup already, but I am not sure if I can use i.bus. The FC is the KingKong f3 micro one. hobbyking.com/en_us/micro-f3.html and the manual says it supports s.bus. Does that mean it should also support i.bus? Thanks for any help you have.
If you're running a recent version of cleanflight or betaflight it will support ibus. That's a firmware thing. I don't really have time to do research on FCs that I don't own myself, but usually a serial connection will use receiver pins 3 and 4, so if you have those available on that FC you should be good.
What helical antenna are you using and do you like the range? I use a Diversity receiver and I want to order a decent helical. Thanks
This one: goo.gl/X2fPEZ
In this case you can see it performed only slightly better than the cloverleaf...
iforce2d I know this cost as much as my diversity monitor but it's supposed to be worth the money www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GP5E9P6/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_1?colid=2KX91I3W68QAV&coliid=I10TLO5VH89T8O
The 23mm should be correct length for the 2.4 band, if you vary from that it can go wonky. My guess is it one were to trim 33mm lengths to 23mm you would have better results. It all has to do with wavelength.
I agree it works well. Why not the quarter wavelength of 31.25 though?
That at my level is beyond me :-). One usually finds the best results at 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 or full wave. I do believe 3/8 wave will work too, not sure on that though.
Or you could just use a 2 watt 2.4ghz booster
you cannot use 1/2 wavelenght. that ridiculous my friend
ruclips.net/video/WBE_KqqHbM0/видео.html
Could you get the last stage of the failsafe to cut the motors ? with some sort of impact detection routine.
There is some development in that direction in the iNav project, but I don't think it has made it to official release yet.
2km? jezz that really nice for a 40-50$ radio
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@@iforce2d very nice, also the video was amazing and very informational. ty.
lol check my range video i think it's more real
hello, good information. im just a little confused about my drone (wizard x220s- ATF) i bought the RC, battery, charger. but i dnt know how "bind it" with RC and receiver, I dont know if im missing cables for it..???
also i have this three little wires coming out from my drone, for what it is? (White,yellow, black) is for connect it into my receiver.
PLZ ANYONE HELP ME! IM NEW IN THIS
The receiver will usually have either a button on it (press it while powering up to enter bind mode) or a pin that should be connected to ground (same thing, have it connected to ground while powering up). Then on the radio there will either be a binding feature in the menu somewhere, or for this FlySky radio you hold the bind button while turning it on - remember to select the model you want to bind for first.
@@iforce2d I notice that my transmitter wont turn on, my transmitter wont power Im getting a new one, i have now the iA6B, I like the one in the video and is compatible with my RC Flysky iA6x
If you have anymore issues, there’s a Facebook group called “drone racing - beginners group” there are many people with a lot of valuable information as this hobby has such a steep learning curve
Hi! I bought and FS-I6X but i'm unable to set Failsafe on INAV. Can you explain me how to do it? Thanks!
The real conclusion i see here, is that this helical antenna is absolutly not working better than the usual one, no ?
Still amazed by the range you can have on a stock Radio
wow a mile and a half is so far. cant wait to fly mine super far. Is a lower C rating better for a longer, endurance flight?
A lower C rating battery will be lighter because it is not spec'd to handle high current.
From their respective spec sheets :
Ia6b rx sensitivity -105dbm
X6b rx sensitivity -95dbm
Does it mean ia6b should have the advantage?
Yes en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_%28electronics%29
Thanks !
"In other words, at a specified data rate, a receiver with a −98 dBm
sensitivity can hear signals that are half the power of those heard by a
receiver with a −95 dBm receiver sensitivity."
So on paper, ia6b wins by a laaarge margin.
I'm wondering what kind of range I can get from my devo 7e with 7105 module.
Probably less than the flysky TX wich has 2 antennas. . .
Love the frame btw !
Two antennas dont give you more output but they can be used for
better polarization or for splitting the telemetry data apart. One for transmitting and one for reception. But then, they should not have different orientation.
For the Devo.
The range might be the same under the condition, you use a well made swivel antenna and pay much antention on the polarization of the antennas. A little loss will be there due the screw connection though.
The A7105 is capable of a 100mW output as well. If you are using
the AFHDS A2 protocol on the Devo, there is no downside.
Equals to twice the range on the ia6b. On paper.
Stock FlySky FS-i6X + X6B 1.5+KM range? that in nice actually
Hi. Sorry for commenting on an old video, but I have a nice question.
Have you used FS-i6X or the old FS-i6X as transmitter? At 11:20 you are using the old one to check failsafe :)
Yes, the i6X is the one I added the third gimbal to, I use it for the big hex, mini-talon and sky shadow so far
Nice video !! What FC are you using for RTH ? Thanks !
Is there are video which shows how to connect x6b to the flight controllers?
Love this video. I used to make prototypes for 12GHz things and I am skeptical about the cavity enclosure they put up on the x6b, and I worry if that only adds weight for my 2 once craft. The cavity seems to be suitable for 5GHz things.
What do you mean by cavity enclosure, the metal can around part of the board?
Yes. The can around. Usually civilian applications don't need that, unless, for that dimension/size, it is 5+Ghz and there are some cavity resonator as part of the enclosure.
I don't quite get why you're calling it a resonator. Isn't it just a little faraday cage/emi shield? Many 2.4g receivers and radios have it.
The cage is not absolutely critical if it is just there as a shield. But, if you have a cavity resonator in the 12Ghz application, the cage becomes absolutely necessary. 5+GHz can't use quartz for resonator. That is why big CPUs don't go over 5+GHz. Instead they go for multi core.
When the frequency gets really high, electronics become cages, mirrors, prisms. At 2.4G, electronics should be capacitors, inductors, circuits, etc.
Nice! But why don't you just use carbon frame?
I just threw this together for a quick test.... can't buy carbon parts at my local hardware store for a few dollars
Hi iForce, is it hard/expensive setting up a quad like yours? With gps barometer etc?.
Good video btw
nice review, thank you. Also you got some very beautiful land to fly on. Do you own that?
What kind of GPS are you using? How does the quad hover so well?
Which replacement antennas did you order? could you provide a link? i mistakenly ordered 5 replacement antennas for an frsky receiver thinking they would fit.
I ordered replacement antennas for FrSky receiver too. They all have the same little ipx connector don't they?
I ordered this one.....
www.banggood.com/5Pcs-FRSKY-Upgraded-Version-Smaller-Antenna-for-X4R-SB-X4R-XSR-Receiver-p-1106150.html
what flight controler did you use for this quad?
flip32 running cleanflight iNav
iforce2d wow, i though you use apm.
how heavy is your drone/quad. it looks really heavy to me. You must have a very strong battery and motor setup?
I think the optimal length for the exposed part of the wire is 31mm for 2.4ghz. I also have been wondering why the FlySky receivers have varying lengths shorter than 31mm. The lengths are not consistent. On all my FrSky receivers the lengths are very consistent and in the range of 31mm so I'm not sure what's going on...
Yes, they certainly are quite strange. So far all the antennas that came with the receivers seem to be working well for me though.
I'm wondering if its their way to comply with various regulations.
Hello, do you have a video talking about bluetooth + flight controller and cell phone communication? Thank for the video =)
2.3km its video transmitter range, so we still don`t know x6b range?
Correct. As I said in the video, that is as far as I am able to fly on my property. If you need more than 2km you probably should be using different frequencies anyway.
Where did you get the RTH/GPS module? please & thank you
iforce2d -- which one is better between T6 and i6x, bro..?
so which is better an 23mm or 33mm antenna? you went 2.2km with both
well done sir
What software did you use in flight controller? Good test :)
Cleanflight iNav github.com/iNavFlight/inav
ok thanks, seems to work well :)
Hello, I got to say, I love your video!I am wondering if you could please help me?I bought x6b and skyline32 advance. I am hoping once I have successfully connected the fc to the receiver I will be purchasing a gps module. Now however I am struggling to connect the receiver to the fc?Could you please help?Many thanks
Way too vague. You mean your fingers keep slipping when you try to push the plug in? :) Look at this question from my perspective, it is impossible to answer. There is a LOT of information out there on this, try reading the docs for whatever flight controller you are using.
You are using pwm protocol right
no, ppm or ibus
what is board control ? is f3 full sensor ?
I dont get it so what was the longest range?
How i can build like this quadcoper wood ,
I build EPP foam quad copper frame reinforced with 1mm carbon fiber rods. It's ultra durable and very light. Bounces of the ground.
Thanks for doing the flight range tests.
16:44 doesn't the I6X TX have a range test switch to attenuate the output signal for ground range walk testing ??
If it does... you could test the 2 RX to max ground range.
No, that button only does binding.
what power boscam video tx are you using?
200mW
what antenna?
aomway one, you can see it at 0:00
could use some data on the turnigy ia6c and the evolution if anybody from hobbyking is watching.
can plz test the range of this old transmitter flysky fs-ct6b-6
I don't have one.
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do not need test , it very bad . short range .
frame size 300mm? prop size and motor kv please?
2205 2300kv, 6 inch bullnose props
Hi, at 1:52 you mentioned the 23mm antennas vs. the 33mm antennas. The 23mm is closer to the length used for a 2.4ghz radio system (+/- 26mm). Personally, I like to make my 2.4g antennas with 25mm pole lengths for better tx and rx across the 2.4 band. Check out IBCrazy's calculations on RCGroups: www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1388264-Build-IBCrazy-s-Cloverleaf-The-ultimate-circularly-polarized-aerial-antenna!
All the best and Happy flying!
There must be something wrong with that helical -- you should have seen a much better improvement with that than with the skew-planar. Is it an Aomway helical by any chance?
Yes, it's an Aomway one.
Which propellers did you use?
kingkong 6045 bullnose
iforce2d What is the total weight of your quadcopter?
Do you have the link for that antennas?
You mean the replacement one? goo.gl/MKhLWT
Which antenna is? the longer one?
so the conclusion? ia6b better than x6b?
I think that's what was concluded. I think the old school ia6b is also better for rc fixed wing airplane flying. but if that's not the case , tell me which one i need for rc fixed wing airplane flying?
sorry guys, my english is not really good. I have not understand if stock x6b antenna are better than aftermarket antenna.
The aftermarket antenna has a longer 'active' section at the tip, which was not as good as the stock antenna.
so, stock antenna has a long range, nice to know thx ;)
Thanks for all the great videos. I'm trying to set up INAV failsafe return to home as you have done, but it's not working. I've the fs-i6 transmitter. Any suggestions?
faced with the same problem with i6b. By default, ia6b receiver keeps sending the flight controller "last good reading" when signal is lost. This behavior can be re-defined in "RX Settings" menu on transmitter itself. You can set desired readings for all channels which receiver will produce in case of lost signal. Check on the internet, there is plenty of articles describing this solution in details.
Hello, 33mm is far too long, more than a quarter wave.
To put some light on this for those who are interested, please read on at these two links.
1. post two...
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1516397
2, and the basics....
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2371720
Hope this will help to find the correct length for your antennas.
I am very pleased with your way of testing the stuff. Keep on , thanks a lot.
i wish my country had all the rc stuff Too! :(
i mean they are double than what they cost normally and are very very limited quantity
Most of this stuff I can't buy here either (only the wood), so I get it from online shopping sites in China
That depends on how much the politicians of your country screw you over. I'm just saying, my country doesn't have all the rc stuff either.
Sir which one should I buy ia6b or new 6x receiver. I have ia6 Rx get only 250m range
What firmware is used in the flight controller?
You could've used normal props as bullnose props sucks economy..
This is a range test of the radio/receiver, not the battery.
I know, was just thinking about the props when I saw you didn't make it back with the last flight due to the battery. Doesn't matter, just an observation.
What OSD were you using?
You mean the hardware? goo.gl/HhKpWt
The firmware was MWOSD I think. www.mwosd.com/
Cool, thanks!
I'm trying to build my own quad (parts here) but I'm having difficulty finding the right OSD, also because of limits in space.
Parts:
www.gearbest.com/multi-rotor-parts/pp_427259.html
FlySky FS I6X 7 X6B
Eachine TX526
Emax 5.8GHz
Eachine VR-007 Pro
Seriousl Pro Racing F3 OSD (PDB)
DAL T5045 V2 tri-blade
Turnigy Nano-Tech 1300mAh 4S
Seriously Pro Racing F3 OSD? If the flight controller has an OSD onboard, you will be able to use betaflight/inav to set it up pretty easily. I don't think it does though...
That's probably the PDB OSD, but the F3 itself does not have an OSD. How easy is the OSD PDB to setup?
I don't know what you mean by "OSD PDB" sorry
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Hi, first of all, thanks for nicely done and very informative video. It's nice to see a high quality material among all the underage morons shouting out their opinions on the internet. Yours - a pleasure to watch. But to the point - I'm very new to all this drone fun, just planning to build my first one. I want to create something small, but full of features. So it will be mini quad frame, but it's going to be more of a fun-testing-ground machine than a racer. Oh, and unfortunately ona budget too.
I've been thinking about FS-I6X transmitter, but most of them are sold by chinese with x6b receiver. Will I be able to send telemetry back to the receiver with x6b, or do I need ia6b? Actually I like ia6b form factor more, the case seem to be more study than a naked pcb.
You seem to be pretty proficient with all these drone stuff, would you mind being nagged by a newbie a little bit? I'm struggling with existential dilemmas choosing parts... .) Maybe you could advise:
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2809492-PDB-LC-filter-or-not
The x6b can do all that the ia6b does, plus it has a voltage sensor: ruclips.net/video/tS1NmV8nHr8/видео.html
this video hoax.
it blogged about fs-i6x with x6b.
during a flight on the videos I see fs-i6. a simple antenna can overcome the distance 2.3km
Please get your eyes checked by an optometrist. The title of this video is "FlySky ia6b vs x6b range test"
Could you tell me what gps module is best for the flip 32 without taking off the board compass ? Also can you tell me what’s firmware you run ? Inav ??
what flight controller and GPS ?