Explaining Why King Magnifico Was Right
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2024
- King magnifico from disney wish 2023 is a misunderstood character. Asha wish 2023's motivations are also very misguided, many people miss the importance of king magnifico in disney wish 2023. All in all king magnifico was right , asha was wrong and he wasn't the worst leader they could have in disney wish 2023.
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Trust Disney to make the guy who eliminated homelessness and starvation in his kingdom, the villain
It says more about Disney than anything else
didnt even break the capitalist system either in this fantasy. Not struggling for necessities doesn't economically ruin this kingdom yet is somehow still the bad guy
Because he didn't give me 1 billions dollar so I gonna ruin his life this is Asha logic
These are the kind of people who just hate the guy in charge. It’s like the people of Rosas just want to go back to being poverty stricken assholes.
Originally the king and queen were going to be villains, another idea that would be cool of the queen was manipulating the king because of HIS powers, thar would be a good plot twist
I felt sorry for Magnifico when he offered job for Asha and she immediately started asking him to grant a specific wish. Like he said, normally people wait at least few days. He looked really hurt. Asha's reason for wanting her grandpa's wish granted were selfish, I bet there were other people who wished their wish to be granted and deserved it just as much and she tried to use her position to get the wish granted.
I know! I also felt horrible when he went to the people to ask for help for a potential threat and they are like “No, give us another wish ceremony” like seriously!? The kingdom could be in danger and your king is asking you for help yet all you can think of is a stupid wish ceremony!?
I’m more confused about the wish orbs not having audio. Like, he can create physical manifestations of their wishes but can’t hear what they’re doing? Seems like something he should have looked into at some point to clear up any misunderstandings.
that annoyed me too because he had just told her about his trauma and all she could think about was getting the wish granted
@@lilac3266 It's also annoying because just few minutes ago she sang a song about how wonderful Rosas is and everyone is so happy there, convincing people to move in. And then when told no, probably for the first time in her life, she suddenly thinks they are all trapped in the misery of lost wishes. Seems ridiculous as she has spent all her life there, thought everyone was living a dream life and then suddenly she does 180.
Asha's grandpa's wish was already fulfilled, he inspired already his granddaughter to do something and her friends. Magnifico should have pointed that out.
I love how the internet has, for the most part, agreed that Magnífico got unfairly screwed by both Asha, his people, and the plot of the movie.
now we need an fanmade ending where a military coup overthrows Asha and brings Magnifico back to power
@@azurite_ore9647 honestly the military won’t even be needed if you think about it.
Remember that goofy lyric “I let you here for free and I don’t even charge you rent”? Well now that Magnífico and his system are gone, someone is going to have to cough up the the money to keep the kingdom going. Let’s see how long the new queen’s rein lasted when she introduces taxes to the citizens.
“Oh but Asha can just use her new powers to fix everything and give people what they need.” Yes, and when people realize all they have to do to get what they want now is ask their new “fairy godmother” for it, who has no choice but to grant it because this is what she wanted, and soon people will lose any motivation to do anything. Basically, what the movie said Magnífico’s system was doing, but worse.
Reddit kinda have a different takes
Like that guy from the bee movie
@@Doctor40771 week later:
Hey Asha, my neighbor called me tubby, I wish he drowns in acid.
Yes I’m sure, I want him dead NOW!!!
What are you going to deny my wishes just like Magnifico, you are just as bad as he was. Actually you’re much worse.
DOWN WITH ASHA, DOWN WITH ASHA!!!
No, seriously, he created a literal PARADISE with his own two hands and understanding of magic
People came to his kingdom willingly, gave their wishes willingly and were welcomed into his kingdom with open arms.
How exactly is he the bad guy for avoiding what would blatantly and plainly become a monkey’s paw situation by not granting every single wish?
Because money
What about people who are born there? How is it at all justifiable that they have to give an important memory to this guy?
Or is that not mandatory? I haven't seen the movie and no one seems to ever mention whether or not people are forced to give up their wish. Except for like ONE person, but many others seem to imply it's voluntary, so I just get confused.
@@theuncalledfor When a citizen turns 18, they can give the king their wish if they WANT to. Never once did Magnifico say "Give me your wish or you'll be banished forever!"
@theand these people could always ya know, LEAVE if they didnt want to live there uncalledfor
@@GG-lk4xf
It sounds simple and easy, but if you've lived there all your life, it's far from easy.
Do you even have enough money to leave? To pay for transportation so you can carry your belongings out? To pay for a place to live wherever it is you're going?
You have to leave everyone you've ever known behind, and find a completely new support group. You might not see your family ever again.
Do you even know HOW to live outside of this weird little kingdom? What if the customs in other places are different, you don't know how not to offend people, what the laws are, etc.
Plus, being forced to give up your home just because you don't want to sacrifice an important part of your mind and your personality, potentially crippling your very sense of self, is MESSED UP.
So no. Technically having the option to leave is not a justifying factor for demanding a piece of someone's mind as a cost for living there. If this was the case, Magnifico would have been an evil tyrant who needed to be stopped. But apparently he didn't actually demand people's wishes, so this is now purely a hypothetical.
*Disney Corporate’s “Moral” of the Story:* Anyone who prevents you from getting exactly what you want is a Villain and you’re the victim if you don’t get exactly what you want right now!
*Update:*
After further research, it seems a _KAREN_ was in charge of this movie and it shows.
She was firing anyone and everyone that didn’t fully agree w her, no matter how crazy and also fired anyone w their own thoughts or suggestions.. 😐
It’s all mentioned in an interview from those who were on the crew or involved- alotta ppl were super salty about it and w good reason.
Nicely put
How did King Magnifico end up on Pure Evil Wiki? He was right
@@Master-Works because the wiki is written by SJWs.
@@Master-Workspeople who think being told 'no' is the most hateful thing imaginable grew up
@@BruggleStar Yeah, Pure Evil Wiki sucks
“Asha’s not the hero you think she is” I don’t think any of us really thought she was a hero.
The problem is that the script of the movie demands we should think she is the hero.
Well, Disney thought that
Youd be surprised of how many brainrot citizens are defending her
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
-Isaiah 5:20
There actually are people who believe that Asha was the hero. Unfortunately.
I'm reminded of a quote from George Lopez 19 years ago. "For everyone that dreams of the lightbulb, there's the one that dreams up the atom bomb". Same thing applies here.
Shark Boy and Lava Girl 🦈👦🌋👩
The quote assumes the shared premise of believing atom bombs are bad. They are not.
Huh I can't believe there's people who think the capability to murder hundreds of thousands with one bomb is good.
@@clydemarshall8095 I assume you say that with the thought of "a object cant be bad or good as it does not possess sentience" which I guess is not wrong as it dependsof who is using it, but unlike a knife that can be use both for good and bad, I really cant see a situation where using a atomic bomb is a good thing
@@clydemarshall8095I don't think a atom bomb is a good thing
There's no scenario where the inclusion of a city wiping weapon is a good idea
"If you don't give what I want, you're a villain"
-The child who wrote this film.
I feel you on that one actually. Might just be me... but that also sounds like the whole Sweet Baby Inc/BBG/Stellar Blade hate articles fiasco that is currently going on right now... "Don't give us what we want, we will cancel you".
At least one other child would respond with, "What if what you want is bad?"
@@KageDarkAngel Save for the fact that Sweet Baby Inc is genuinely horrible.
"I am Calypso and I thank you for playing Twisted Metal"
-A LITERAL 'This is what you whated isn't it?' aka The Twisted Wish
@@mitchellalexander9162 Oh! That is good reference. I completely forgotten that one.
Asha: everyone's wish should be granted.
Jack Horner: I wish to have all the magic in the world, leaving none of it for no-one else.
Everyone: pauses and doesn't respond.
Magnifico: "See Asha that's why i don't grant everyone's wish because this wish is bad and can lead to terrible consequences for the kingdom or everywhere else and people would get hurt or worse die." 👑
wasnt his actual wish to have all the gay porn in the world?
😂😂😂 i wish to be the most strongest god in the whole universe when my wish is granted i will make every world my slave and rule.
@@babayaga9805nuh uh
Light Yagami: I wish to be GOD
Freiza: I wish that ALL MONKEYS to go EXTINCT
And you damn well know what the "monkey" means
What hurts and is so stupid is that Disney has other movies that do this right! Aladdin and Princess and the Frog! Both about wishes and getting what you want in an a instant. But learning to be true to yourself, learning that it’s important to work for what you want. Remember when Jafar had the lamp? When Dr Facilier tried tempting Tiana with her restaurant?
Like damn Disney pay some f-cking attention to your actual amazing films
That's because they eventually realized that all of that is completely irrelevant now that capitalism is the norm in our civilization. This movie is basically telling us to give in to greed and embrace capitalism.
Sure Aladdin lied to Jasmine about who he is, but at least he took responsibility for his actions and wished for Genie’s freedom. Hell, even though the Dr. Facilier offered Tiana a chance to live out her dreams, she turned it down because she realized that family and love are more important than chasing one’s dreams.
@@nevaehhamilton3493 uh no its saying to embrace hedonism as in "only you yourself matters and chasing what you want which is what you deserve" and anyone who dosent is the "less enlightend" holding you back.
Those films were written by mature adults. Modern Disney is full of averaged children that don't respect hard work and expect instant gratification.
@@GodwynDiencanto actually has a similar concept. Mirabels whole thing is wanting a gift so that she can contribute to the family and feel seen but she never gets a gift like she desired and learns the truth about her family from simply communicating with them. She doesn’t get a gift at the end but she gets what she’s always needed recognizing her own worth not based on what she can offer to others and she ends up inspiring the whole family too. They could have done something similar with asha where she actually has to go against the people (this requires giving the townspeople a personality tho) and it would add stakes
There's also the fact that giving the wish, is optional.
He will not deny entrance to his land if you refuse to give up your wish. But if you do there is a chance it will be granted. Or it will be held in a safe place . He only starts breaking them near the end AFTER he gets POSSESSED by the book.
and asha is the one who lead him to choose corruption.
@@AdarableKitten The incredible selfishness of his people definitely had a hand in it too. _This is the Thanks I Get?_ can be seen as a man having a complete mental breakdown, trying at the start to fill his own need for validation but realizing how much he's been giving to people who won't even give him a kind word of thanks. All his people do is ask for more constantly.
He's actually a tragic character, who essentially made a paradise, created miracles, was a king which is an often misunderstood and very stressful job, who asked for help fighting a mysterious power that actively threatened the kingdom and was just asked to give even more instead and had a breakdown.
@@Cardinal_clawA true threat to the kingdom no less. People focus on Asha, but what about the star? It is a force of pure chaos and evil.
I have seen conflicting information on this. I have not seen the movie, and have no intention of doing so, but some people say or imply that giving the wish is mandatory, while others say or imply it's optional.
This is an INCREDIBLY important point.
If giving up the wish is optional, then Magnifico is 100% in the right until he becomes corrupted. People choose to give him their wish, knowing they will forget it, for a chance of having it granted.
If giving up the wish is mandatory, then children born there or moved there with their parents have no real choice but to lose one of their most important memories once they turn 18, and couples with one resident and one outsider are forced to either abandon the wish of the resident, probably giving up all hope of having it granted, or the outsider has to give up their memory of what their deepest desire is. It's messed up and Magnifico is 100% in the wrong from the start, and gets even worse once corrupted.
Asha is in the wrong regardless of which option is true, of course, but two people who are both in the wrong can still be at odds and most of the discourse about this movie seems to be about how Magnifico is the hero, when that is simply not the case AT ALL if the second option (mandatory surrender of the wish) is true.
@@theuncalledforI think it was said to be optional (like one of the friends telling Asha "you get to give your wish"), but the people we see arriving at the beginning of the movie seemed sceptical during the ceremony but ended up giving up their wishes nonetheless, and then after Magnifico became corrupted it seemed to be mandatory.
The question is just is it bad writing, faulty memory or both?
Its so funny that they did this movie so poorly that the literal villain can be explained as the person in the right. Truly Disney is a subvertive masterpiece.
Dude you’re giving them WAY too much credit for something that was almost certainly an accident … and that’s why they keep crapping out these steaming bombs of mediocrity 😫😫😫
And even if you can find arguments against him, because he isn't perfect he has defects, you can't say he's the villain because the other option is much worse
You know what they say about living long enough to become the villain 😔
@ElleDeas that’s about right
@@LadyLeomonI'm fairly certain the comment was sarcasm.
The kids rooted for Asha
The adults rooted for Magnifico
The Teens also rooted for Magnifico
Bro, even the kids rooted for Magnifico. There is no salvation for her.
Nah even the kids were on his side
Teens sat there with their little aiblings or friends with a "oh wow this is actually cool" face until a bit before half way through the movie and then just went "wtf, wth is she doing. What is this turning into" and they recognized Magnifico was good.
Not my brother calling Asha dumb 😭🤚
The residents didn’t even need to give up their wishes to live there. They did so willingly for a chance to have them granted. They people don’t even need to give anything up to live there. Magnifico is literally one of the best rulers ever, what was Disney thinking?!
Probably something to do with their drop in quality animations.
They should get a new boss
Same like Jafar. So far he's a good ruler as the kingdom is pretty much in order and no suffering.
Sure there's thief here and there but it is just simply something that exist everywhere.
@ReigoVassal ...Jafar wasn't ruler until he got genie and he was an absolute Jerk
magnifico was a wish granting philanthropist, then they got manipulated by a cursed object and got the eternally trapped treatment
DEI or girl bosses. Take your pick.
Jafard's wish was to become sultan and we all saw what it resulted in for everyone when it was granted.
And what about Scar's wish to be king? We all saw what kind of king he turned out to be. Keep in mind that he held this position for at least 2 or 3 years, as that's how much time Simba would need to grow to full size.
Or Maleficent who's wish was to punish an innocent child for her parents mistake?
What sequel to it @@Cardinal_claw
And now I’m older I wonder “why?” cos Agrabah is, objectively, a sh*t-hole where most of the people live in poverty … and yet Jafar wants to rule them? If he just wanted the Palace I’d get it, that’s a pretty sweet place, but to be *Sultan* … I’m drawing a blank honestly 😕😕😕
@@LadyLeomon
power for power. He want to rule for the power that will give him
That what got him to get trapped when Aladin trick him to became a genie to get more power
Also, the original Sultan, who is a good guy overall (just incredibly childish and stupid), rather play with his figure animal and find a prince for Yasmine because that is the law, rather than actually rules and care for his peoples.😅
All Magnifico wanted was to find a student who wanted to look out for and take care of him and his kingdom for a change. That was the height of his selfishness. He created paradise on Earth and he wanted a helping hand.
Instead he got a kingdom of spoiled ingrates and his wife's betrayal.
Yup. It's shocking how Disney thought this was ok. His subjects are all proven to be shallow, selfish ingrates, and HE'S treated as the bad guy??
@@WobblesandBeanbecause he said "no" and dares to actually not instantly grant stuff. That is the moral here, anyone trying to be moderate or think before giving you something must be mean and evil.
@@Aldenfenristhe moral of “everyone is entitled to instant gratification and anyone who says otherwise is EVIL” 😂😂 I’m fucking crying how could Disney think this was a good idea
IMO, tho, he spoiled them rotten. He was too good and because of his 'gentle parenting' (i.e coddling) he nurtured an extremely selfish, entitled, and self-centered brats in his kingdom, even his wife is affected.
Ironically this is a big reason why Machiavelli explicitly warns rulers to be feared and respected rather than loved and admired.
People are fickle as hell and will turn their backs on you despite all the good you did for them. They are quick to forget how much you helped but will never forget the slightest perceived grevience.
They become entitled and spoiled and will overthrow you for the guy who's promising them the most luxuries and free gifts.
So you're better off not even trying. Focus on keeping the kingdom running, do the minimums expected to keep the peace and enforce the law, and don't waste your time and money on programs and efforts to win their love.
This way they never get spoiled.
Magnifico spent his whole reign doing so much for his people to literally make dreams come true. Yet they turn on him as soon as some one else comes around and promises more.
Disney’s Wish is the most unique movie ever made. All the advertising and merchandise is focused around the villain while the Hero is pretty much hidden.
And they have the villain win.
And the villain isn’t even fun…
At least the hero is actually handsome this time. Meantime Asha in the background...stole her personality from Rapunzel and Ariel, then went to be the cause of her King's corruption.
Even if I don’t like it, I’m sort of curious about the alternative takes on it that have been floating around.
That's what Disney was conveying in the story.
@@rockmangurlx4973 huh, there ARE alternate takes? I'd take fanfiction over this animated mess
The moral of the story should've been be careful of what you wish for. King Magnifico was right to be wary about what wishes he should grant.
Still doesn't make him a good person
@@animezilla4486What doesn’t make him a good person? The fact that they had to shoehorn in the evil book?
@@animezilla4486 Yup, giving people free housing, probably free food, safety, security, complete freedom to do whatever they want and a chance of having their deepest wishes granted through magic... all things that a horrible person would do. Oh, no, wait, he didn't immediately bow down to the demands of an ignorant, spoiled child.. therefor he must be a horrible person.
Let me guess... you are one of those ignorant, spoiled children who thing that they deserver things just because they exist.
@@animezilla4486He eliminated homelessness and starvation.
That's more than what the average "hero" would usually give
@@ryannathaniel9296he evil because he evade taxes
Whats more heroic than letting people live there for free and not even changing rent
Letting people live there in freedom, as a foreign dub translates it to.
I like how the English version was fixed with that dub "in freedom".
@@Bahr-im7pnI mean at that point it'd your fault if you go to the place where you never have to work again but don't have a wish. I dont think this guy goes around kidnapping people so yeah. People born there is a different story and I don't think thr giving up wish thing is mandatory anyways
@@zaingamingtv2242 Asha said "You get to give your wish," implying it's optional. Just so you know, the never charging rent portion is the same, so he's letting them live freely for free.
What's even more funny is that the granddad's wish was already granted by himself, he already inspired his granddaughter and her friends, he already inspired the next generation. To bad the writers never made magnifico point this out.
I remember a while back, i knew nothing about this movie, and a friend of mine explained the plot to me. And i remember responding with "this guy sounds like one of the most interesting protagonists that disney ever created". He then told me that he was the antagonist, and i immediately dismissed the writers of this story
I thought the same thing when I saw the trailer, I was like, how is this guy in the wrong? He had some bad personality traits sure, but then again so does everyone, plus he was building a literal utopia. Tbh the space time continuum would break if every wish was granted, imagine the wishes that contradicted each other, or ones that remove magic entirely, what about the ones that break time or the world?
He kind of IS a protagonist still, though. He just happens to be one who turns evil.
@@incrediblefunk7220 he got possessed by the book so that doesn't count.
The FIRST thing Asha does as wish granter is "giant chicken", and that giant chicken will 100% end up eating childrwn and pets, sooo good job Asha!
Lol yup. Chickens are straight up dinosaurs. Have you SEEN what they will do to a small animal? That thing will not hesitate to eat people.
God gives the tastiest children to the hungriest giant chickens😇✨
This would be a fun movie😂
Reminds me of a book where hyper advanced aliens show up to this backward medieval kind of planet, and someone there wishes for a chicken that can lay golden eggs.
So the aliens give them what they want.
Which could only be done through some complex process in the chicken's internal organs that caused it to constantly emit deadly amounts of radiation.
Disney never defined Magnifico properly as a villain. On top of that, adding a book that automatically made him evil, stole the king's agency. Wish was a mess.
They really should have saved him from the books influence.
@@Merilirem There's a throwaway line where they read up on it and go "welp according to this it can't be reversed, oh well. Not like we have a star who grants limitless wishes with no limitations or anything".
@@WobblesandBeanThey could use a wish to reverse it.
What if two people have wishes that conflict with each other? What if someone wishes for something harmful?
Then whichever is granted last remains granted, and whichever is granted first is overridden by the other.
Imagine someone's wish is to be a painter but their parent's wish is for them to be a doctor. What then?
@@HimekoIzayoia doctor who's also a really good painter? Bet that anatomy knowledge would come in handy
@@lawrencelopez9839 how a normal person can do both painter and doctor at same time 💀
That person can’t have enough time and stamina to do both that job 💀
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 it's common? A quick google search shows doctors who paint.
A good example of the consequences of granting everyone's wishes is in the movie Bruce Almighty. The main character mass replies "yes" to everyone's prayers and it results in absolute chaos.
Have you seen the movie shorts it also goes over the whole issue of everyone’s wishes being granted.
I feel like that goes into "Thanos was right" territory.
Like... if you can literally warp reality to your will, there's no reason you couldn't create realities where wishes don't conflict.
We already kind of have this with a multitude of digital worlds that can be violent or peaceful and not crash into each other.
Thanos could have easily made more resources.
Any god that could make this all could change the rules to work.
@lelandholmquist2467 Well, part of the movie is that Bruce can't do that, God can't take away free will or control people.
@@kamikeserpentail3778 little problem with that.... Thanos didn't care for all that he just wanted to get in bed with Death (who is a girl in the marvel universe) and showing her a half mountain of corpses would have been a great wedding goft in his eyes
Which has got nothing to do with this movie since "granting everyone's wishes" is never a factor.
I'm reminded of the Fairly Oddparents episode that introduced Norm the genie. Point is, no matter how specific you make your wish, there's a chance that it can be misinterpreted or granted in a way you do not want. While yes Norm and most genies in fiction and folklore are jerks and will willingly twist the wish, Magnifico is right to be extremely careful with the wishes he grants, especially if the wish is too vague.
Another thing: Wonder Woman 1984. Movie wasn't very good in my opinion, but it did do a good job hammering home the point that granting everyone's wishes, especially conflicting ones, is a dangerous thing.
And also, wasn't 'be careful what you wish for' one of the lessons hammered into our childhoods? Whatever happened to that?
its been replaced with 'society is the root of all evil not the indvidual you deserve everything you desure and should despise anyone who tries to stop you"
Such as asking for a raspberry crown.
While that is the name of a delicious pastry, it's also the name of a type of wasp so the wish granter could be like "Oh sure. I'll give you one, in fact, I'll give you A HUNDRED!"
@@MalachiLper even worse if you wish for blue waffles, sounds like a funny colored treat but unfortunately is also the name of an std
Yeahh... "be careful what you wish for" is ironically in the movie's slogan.
Can someone explain to me how this phrase relates to the movie?? or am I very stupid to understand 😂😂😂
@@PepeJS-tt6dd The original concept of the movie was entirely different, so we can assume that the slogan was related to the original story and that disney just didn't change it when the story changed
I feel they could have done so much with this premise. King Magnifico rarely granted wishes still. Asha still becomes his apprentice, but secretly tries to grant her fathers wish. She does but ends up going overboard and granting all the wishes. This breaks the Disney canon. Cinderalla, Snow White, Rapunzel, and others dont get the Happy Ending. So Asha and Magnifico have to try and fix it. Asha learns that some wishes simply cant be granted. Magnifico sacrifices his powers to restore everything, but gets to live normally. Asha eventually becomes Queen.
I had almost the same idea just that in my version he does not lose his power and in the end Ash becoming his official successor in training. So they could have made a series later on just like tangled for the Disney channel.
As punishment. So that she understands: power requires responsibility and happy endings come at a cost. Even when magic is involved.
Fuck. Why aren't _we_ the writer's room?
@@Borderose because we are not friends/family/bed partner of a Hollywood producer
I think they could use a series like fairy oddparents using it as an excuse for Disney crossovers, she created a mess with all those wishes and now they need to travel thru different places in order to fix the damage. Meanwhile she learns about the dangers of wishes and also how to become magnifico's successor (probably at the ending)
THIS WOULDVE BEEN A PERFECT FILM FOR THE ANNIVERSARY WTF WHY DIDNT THEY DO THIS????
What was the message of this movie supposed to be?
“If you’re parents tell you no, they’re the villain.”
“Don’t work for what you want; instant gratification is better!”
“Fuck precautions!”
“A naive teenager who has lived in paradise her whole life knows more than a grown man who, after experiencing the cruel nature of humanity, built the damn paradise after *years* of magical training.”
That seems to be all I’m getting from this movie. Thanks, Disney! 🚩🚩🚩😑
So if you use the same " reasoning " against them:
employee: i want a raise
executive: no
employee: monster
executive: you're right +10%
if not it's a damn hypocrite.
Between this and Raya, Disney is trying to teach kids objectively horrible life lessons.
@@barongeoffrey75 Bro, Disney is the ultimate hypocrite. No, they go above and beyond the word. Ask any veteran employee (that either isn't dead or under a NDA).
@@donutbevil9669 They really are! They’ve done this whole limited wish granting and consequences thing before: in Aladdin and in Princess and the Frog! And those were good messages for children! They’re so stuck in their crappy current writing that they don’t even recollect the amazing movies they’ve made and the messages that came with them. Truly sad. 😭
Disney is one of the worst Company's to exist.
I have decades of experience in nonprofit organizations, working overtime with no extra pay, basically at minimum wage, and having so much emotional and physical effort in helping others, but was taken advantage of over and over and over. Had to spend so many hours begging rich people to help others who were sometimes in dire situations due to no fault of their own. It was exhausting. Was I appreciated, absolutely not. I was a doormat. So many times I would get to breaking point and felt like this song specifically spoke to every nonprofit charity worker, heck every teacher, every nurse.
Guy 1: I love Susie. I wish she loved me back.
Guy 2: I love Susie. I wish she loved me back.
Susie: I wish to be free of all attachments and to roam the world freely.
What then Disney?
clones idfk
Susie would be ripped in half and her soul would be free from her physical body and is no longer bound to the mortal world and is free to roam the eternal plains. Like that? I don't know.
@andrewjacobs6745 Honestly, a world where everybody's wishes get granted in the most horrific monkey's paw way would be a pretty interesting apocalyptic setting.
Eiffel Tower around the world.
@@enumaelish9193
See that would be an interesting idea if Magnifico withheld wishes because he knows how easily they backfire, so he only grants those he can guarantee will end up not being harmful to the wisher or others around them.
Like the classic genie trick where you said you wanted riches beyond your wildest imagination and then be lobotomizes you so you can’t imagine any. Or be buried you alive under a mountain of coins. Or he gives you a treasure chest, that later turns out to be stolen and you as the thief get arrested. Or you becoming so paranoid that your wealth gets stolen that you kill your own family to hide it. Or your family killing you for it
Turns out there are many ways to”simple” wishes can go horribly wrong.
Can we all agree that Asha is a Mary Sue?
I think Mary Sue would be offended. She's not perfect enough and makes mistakes.
@@onup1475 And yet, Disney wants us to believe that Asha was right about wanting to grant all wishes no matter how dangerous that it really is honestly. If that doesn’t make her a Mary Sue, then what does? Also, just because Maginifico will only choose to grant some wishes while keeping potentially harmful wishes ungranted, that makes him the bad guy? Now that’s just Disney at its finest.
@@maxdejong5259poor writing, yea. Unfortunately, that’s not the defining trait of a Mary sue. Those characters bend and break the established rules of their setting. Don’t get me wrong, the writing was awful as far as Disney goes, but it’s not completely at Mary Sue level.
She's not a Mary Sue. She's a villain
@@bombomos Also when you think about it, Asha is not a good role model for little kids at all because she’s teaching them that it’s ok to be spoiled, rotten brats who throw tantrums whenever they don’t get what they want until someone gives in to their demands. I fail to see how that’s supposed to be a good message. 🤨
I guess the reason why Disney wanted this movie to be written the way it is as we’ve seen is so they can encourage little kids to annoy and bother their parents into giving away their hard earned money to Disney for their products. Disney is evil I tell you, it’s all about getting even more rich than they already are right now because they don’t know when enough is enough.
You bring up a good point. Not just about people with horrible wishes, but it makes me think about people who might have gone there to have the horrible wish taken out of them. Pedos, for example. Sex addicts. Gambling addicts. I've heard people wish that those other desires could be taken away. Here's Magnifico. He could take away the evil desires. It sounds like a perfect solution with a price they're eager to pay.
Right??
I’m pretty sure that King Magnifico could take away people’s wishes that are plain idiotic or down right awful. Such as, wishing for a Giant Fire Breathing Chicken, someone they hate to get tortured in the worst way, making two friends (either both male or both female) fall madly in love with each other, erasing someone out of existence because they hate them for very selfish reasons, erasing a story out of existence even though a lot of people enjoyed it, summoning a storm of fried chicken, endless snow days or all of the world’s water turned into either soda, beer or wine.
@@samflood5631 I'm sure he does. But it doesn't seem like Asha takes that into consideration and thinks everyone has good wishes.
But can he remove The Voices inside someone’s head.
@@tetraxis3011 Well he makes them forget their wish entirely. So someone who wished to have sex with children, he'd have to remove everything related to that desire.
So yeah, I would think no intrusive voices for people who genuinely wanted avoid having their wishes granted.
In my opinion Magnifico is a person who went through a traumatic experience (his former home being destroyed) and is now over correcting by being strict with wishes, kind of like how Marlin in Finding Nemo was stifling is son by being too protective. Which could be an interesting angle for a villain if they decided to do anything with it, but no.
It REALLY feels they were building him as a tragic/sympathetic antagonist but halfway through remembered he's supposed to be an actually evil 'Classic Disney' villain.
It is very possible. Especially because in the book he actually says to star when he caught the star “Where were you when I needed you!?” Which says a lot…
And it's interesting because it would mean the moral of the story is to let things go when the only thing they do is hurt/hold you back
Like the citizens with every wish granted and the king with his tragic past
@@lespena3722 wait? This movie is from a book?
@@SleekHerooNo, the book was inspired from the movie
The funny thing is, at the end of the movie Asha didn't grant people's wishes either. She gave the wishes back and basically said "go do it yourselves"
So at the end she didn't even do the very thing she was supposedly fighting to do
What's her fucking problem then?? Girlie needs to pick a struggle 🤦
That WAS what she was fighting to do. People didn't actually LISTEN to her during her meeting with Magnifico, so they mistakenly believe she was wanting and expecting Magnifico to grant the wish of everyone in Rosas rather than wanting the wishes returned to them all so that they can realize them for themselves.
not really, she did grant one wish: her grandfather's
@@Alex-mh5muchoosing favorites isn’t a heroic thing to do
@@itachiuchiwa6875 I agree, I'm against asha
Asha: "Everyone's wish should be granted."
Random person with a dark mind: "I wish the world would end."
King Magnifico: "See Asha that's why i don't grant everyone's wish."👑
Random Bhaalspawn:
And what would happen if that wish is returned?? 💀
@@PepeJS-tt6dd I don't know. 🤷🏻
@@michelleschrock9141 Then you didn't get the plot, since Asha never said "everyone's wish should be granted.' Ever.
Worst part is all they had to do was change the second half of the film. Give Asha an arc of realizing Magnifico is being manipulated and make that the plot of freeing him. She get's a lesson of seeing how bad things could be with Magnifico not holding back his magic and Magnifico continues his rule. You could even keep her granting wishes on Magnifico's behalf since she helped free him and now understands the responsibility of it. You get a good moral, the quirky hero, can go full out with a classic villain and can still go out with a happily ever after. It's honestly astounding how easily it all could be fixed if they didn't push Asha to being right.
The Wonder Woman 84 movie handled the “grant everyone’s wish” shit better than this.
It’s really funny since Chris Pine was in that movie as well
Well it did almost the opposite problem: No one deserves any wish granted.
Fairy oddparents
The kid never has bad intentions, but it backfires one way or another. It's a kid playing with fire, means no harm but the house can be destroyed and even worse, lifes will be in danger
@@GarkKahnActually, for the most part Timmy was very selfish.
@@determinedhelicopter2948 Maybe because it's better to actually _work_ for your wish. Not expect a higher power to grant it.
"You get to give your wish in a ceremony" you don't even *have* to give your wish
Either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
That's it, nowaday Disney has lost my trust. I wish Walt Disney comes back to adjust everything.
Not mine
Every major franchise has lost my trust. Even old ones. People ruined it for me by being stupid
But but you should trust them anyways, even if they did nothing to earn it
Walt would be found rotting in an alley somewhere after a few days
Imagine being this king, all the wishes of people wanting to sleep with the king, his wife and or daughter.
“Let’s see today’s wishes, sleep with royal family? Not granting that one and there 17 of this exact same wishes today”
Literally 1984
It's not too different from the trans community who say you're a bigot and blah blah blah if you don't sleep with them...
They're telling you that you don't get to consent to them, you MUST CONSENT to sleep with them.
@@FernybunLiterally 1969
the king won't peg me, literally 1984 and hitler
god that would suck
I just love the age we live in.
We as a whole have no trouble believing a magical king can grant wishes but we cannot imagine people not wishing for terrible things.
Have you MET people? Or looked outside for just two seconds?
Also some wishes are meant to come from a nice place, but they end up being really mean or effecting people badly.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that
It's just a movie
@@animezilla4486 That doesn’t matter.
I’d wish that Asha be locked up for a while and the old King be freed (but! Made to take Anger Management or something?) //
Wish for Magnifico to be back and another wish for Asha to be jailed
I feel the queen didn't love the king she is his wife at least help your husband not going in the dark path but no she help Asha banished her husband
@@erwannthietart3602 Maybe..- but also maybe they both go to jail?
@@lesterjadearriesgado6888 Yeah- that too. Seems also weird he never shared his personal interests w her - did they ever actually show any emotion or love to each other? Is that why she’s never had kids w him? Even tho as King/Queen, they NEED heirs..
I genuinely think Magnifico is one of the most tragic Disney characters ever for all the wrong reasons.
His parents were murdered when he was a child, he had to build up the kingdom from the ground up, he was taken advantage of for years by his own entitled people, when he finally snapped, his own wife backstabbed him and in the end he lost everything and was punished for life...
And yet Disney wants you to hate him...like WHAT?!
Could you imagine if someone gave their wish to Magnifico because they knew it was wrong and wanted someone else to morally weigh it (and *they* could choose to keep it locked away or fulfil it)? Could you imagine being free from that burden, starting to live a happy life as this thing that had been weighing on your mind was finally gone? And then some child breaks that system??
There was literally NOTHING stopping Asha's grandfather from making his wish come true. He could've gone out there and spoken to the younger generation, interacted with them, and passed on his wisdom and life experiences. He didn't NEED some nigh omnipotent king to grant that. He was just lazy and didn't want to work for what he wanted.
This movie ticks me off so much, not only because the message is stupid, but because the concept itself actually has a lot of potential, especially if Disney weren't afraid to get a little darker with it like they were with some of their earlier films (The Black Cauldron comes to mind).
The black cauldron was visualy dark not thematicaly... Here is the issue, they are pussyfooting around the villain being "bad" he is more reasonable and offers a lot he just does not offer one thing the wishes he is not going to fullfill back for no explained reason...
Sure, it may seem "bad" though like the video said it is the only thing he asks for people to live in his island who he owns and nobody literaly tried to say no to giving their dream to him.
Even if that is the lynchpin of the entire story it seems to be more of Magnifico's story rather than Asha's since it involves him more personaly.
You missed the part where people forget the wish they give.
He wasn't lazy, he literally didn't know the wish he gave away potentially 82 years ago.
That of course doesn't change that the story is kinda... threadbare.
@@Sonlirain
And he seemed to be sad about it?!
Why is everything so contradictive in this plot?
@@Raximus3000 He wasn't. He was just bummed that he didn't get his wish on the wish granting ceremony. But its the same kind of bummed you get when you learn you didn't win the lottery today.
A lottery where you don't even know the prize because as i said earlier, you forget your wish after you give it away.
He was perfectly fine with it till the protagonist started prodding him about it and told him that his wish was deemed dangerous by Magnifico.
That's when he actually got sad and angry.
@@Sonlirain
He sounds unreasonable, especialy when he does not even know what his wish was.
And he has no faith to the king because he judged his vague(could only result in mind control) wish a bad one?
Was this a story where a wizard went to an island where they exiled all the criminals and took their evil wishes and made them less "evil?" Because it sound like one to me.
Asha:"Now every wish will be realized!!"
The psychopath who wished for world hunger:"Finally.."
I would have loved if Disney actually went the route of Asha being _wrong._
It would be such a twist on expectations and flip a lot of disney's old concepts on its head.
The main character, who we excuse actions for, because, yeah they're the main character, they'll end up triumphing over this movie's villain and we're supposed to like them. We don't expect the main character in a disnex movie like that to be bad. Which is why Asha turning out to be the villain would've been amazing.
yeah or at least, as someone already told, the 'be careful what you wish for' is actually a pretty good and important lesson to learn even in a hero's journey. In narratology is important that the MC has some character flaws/leassons to learn so they can grow.
With some editing and cutting, we could've seen the reign going into caos because of Asha's wand granting wishes everywhere, and then the characters going "yep, i guess Magnifico was right" and trying to break him out of the mirror (possibly trapped in some dungeon behind some magical guards evoked by Asha herself before, or evil citizens, or something), so that he could fix the mess at least partially. Also, this thing that "you cannot return to your former self after you use the forbidden magic EVEN IF USED ONLY ONE TIME" is so, SO stupid. Like, even if it was depicted as a drog addiction, drogs don't ruin a person's character that quickly and if it's just a magical effect, there's something people call "exorcism" that would be a pretty useful tool inside a fantasy setting, just sayin'.
Yeah, but Asha didn't do a whole lot wrong, at least not intentionally.
@@incrediblefunk7220 girl literally committed crimes and brainwashed her friends and his wife into siding with her, she did plenty wrong.
Finally someone who talks about this. Wishes are a pure form of desire and often can be a spur of the moment thing you might come up with in impulsive situations. Idiot Asta really wasn't thinking "Hey, what if someone wished to nuke the city?" or someone just goes "I wish no one else's wishes will be granted forever" Something absurd like that. Or what about the exasperated mom that said "I wish you were never born" to her problem child? Idiot Asta clearly only wants one thing: power. She wants to be in control of this power to wish for anything she wants. She has never cared or considered the primal and dual nature of wishing. That's why she's upset Magnifico is gatekeeping the wishes. Because she won't have the power to herself. That's also why the nicest way to get that power is to give the entire city free access to it
Look how well it went in wishmaster
Asha: I am going to grand everyones wish!
Me: I want your position as King
Magnifico's the king, not Asha.
If they wanted to make Magnifico evil, they could have made it so that in order to keep his Kingdoms neutrality and wealth, he was actually using peoples Wish's on other Kingdoms with the contract that they leave his Kingdom alone. It would make him understandable while still morally reprehensible.
Yes you’re right! I’ve said it so many times:
The people comes to Rosas WILLINGLY, gets the WHOLE DEAL laid out for them, they all know, and STILL Asha is like:
“Oh, ThE pEoPLe oF rOsAs DeSeRvE MoOoOoOoRe! We HaVe BeEn TriCKeD!”
Everybody is free to leave, free to give their wish, they CHOSE this!!!
Magnifico is not a villain at all. The book is the villain, Magnifico is the victim, and therefore Asha is not the hero, since she doesn’t save the victim
You’re not wrong. Disney should have done better than that, seriously.
Regardless it's just a movie
@@animezilla4486 That’s not gonna matter. But what matters is improvement on the company itself.
Honestly if any one is rather evil in this story it's the queen. She went along with everything Magnifico did during "the good times". Then happily betrayed him after she knew he was possessed by the book and doomed him to eternal imprisonment within the mirror. Not exactly actions of a loving and caring wife.
Also, Magnifico is a god so like, how did Asha ever overpower him? Also also, Disney was so desperate for Magnifico to be the enemy that there's literally one song where he rapidly goes from "I can't grant every wish because it could be dangerous" to "I'm going to use the wishes to make myself more powerful and rule with an iron fist". It's stupid, lazy and I hope someone rewrites this story.
Yeah, they deprived us of an at least decent final battle by... singing
What I think Disney was trying to do, was make Magnifico come across as a Cult Leader......which they totally failed at. (The wishes representing a religion of sorts). People inside a cult put too much faith in their leader and the leaders usually abuse their power and manipulate their followers to maintain that poer. We did not see Magnifico actually abuse his power before going "evil". To do a Cult storyline justice they would have had to go bit darker and the evil should not have come from the book, but from Magnifico himself. Magnifico should have been shown to actually be far more manipulative. However Disney just did not have the balls to go full Cult brainwashing and manipulation. Instead Magnifico comes across way to genuine and honest in his intentions.
Ironic, considering they've become a cult, too.
Well yeah, obviously the villain has to be the guy who singlehandedly made a nation free of hunger and war with no ulterior motives. How else would they stop people from aligning their company with said villain? Evil people obviously provide for others. Disney? Fuck the poors, that's how you know they're the good guys. Just like Asha.
Paper Mario and D&D has good explanations why wishes should be filtered and how a wish can go horribly wrong.
Whats worse is i related to Magnifico. I've tried to be a leader when i ended up in that position even if i didnt want it.
People love you when you give them pleasure but are quick to hate you the moment you tell them "no".
Whats worse sometimes i act like that too but I've been working on being more compassionate to those in leadership positions because being a leader is sacrifice and work.
To those of you reading this, Wish is at the least a good warning against what happens when you lack thankfulness and compassion towards those who would seek your good just because they made a choice you didn't like.
Magnifico's most evil was the equivalent of "I won't do what you want!!"
I dont think Magnifico telling Asha on stage that he wouldn't hire her was vile, I think he was so so so sick of people asking him favors and disrespecting him so he lashed out and he's right, again.
I feel like a simple fix to this would’ve been to make it so Magnifico offered his kingdom to the people with supposedly no strings attached. But secretly when someone enters the kingdom, he steals their greatest wish without them knowing. So when the wishing ceremony comes, it’s like he gives one person something they could have never imagined. Making him look like a great king.
And when he tells this to our main lead, she’s like “hey man that’s pretty messed up”. And rebels against him. But it would actually make sense
To me that film feels like two different stories mixed together... One with the tragic, arrogant but redeemable antagonist and one with the irredeemable manipulative villain...As if the writers couldn't decide which direction to take and chose not to choose. Maybe that's the next evolution of the multiverse: all the dimensions cohabiting in one!
It’s frustrating because Magnifico was advertised to be a return to the “classic Disney villain.” And sure, bro was unapologetically evil for part of the movie, but it was because of evil possession. That’s not how the classic villains are. They have immoral methods and motivations, but we vibe with them because they are consistent and dedicated to their villainy. Someone who is villainous by happenstance doesn’t fit the bill.
@@Rikrobat I fully agree!
For me the film felt like the pieces were there to make a story work but they just didn't make it work.
The main problem with this movie is the premise that all wishes are 'good' or 'innocent'. Except that Magnifico has already proven they're not, as his previous home was attacked by people who wished his people harm.
Not to mention, Wanda aka Scarlet Witch got possessed by the Book of Vishanti which lived in space between each universe and one pure source of evil, the Darkhold as well and even wanted to do something as messed up as kill a child but she wasn’t evil, just possessed. That wasn’t even her true personality and she did so much worse like tamper with the multiverse for selfish (but understandable) reasons.
It is clear that the king was traumatized after losing his home and if you consider how he once thought there was nothing more valuable than a wish, could it be that something went wrong with the wishes that destroyed his previous home? Cause it’s never clear as to what that may be he just lost his home and we can only assume it may be because of the wishes. The king also clearly has issues and does get angry quite easily possibly due to anxiety. If there were to be any psychological analysis, I’d say due to the trauma, he probably has a fear of losing control because if he loses control, he might end up losing his home again as well as his people.
So he pulls a Scarlet Witch to ensure it never happens again. I think both he and Wanda are very complex characters who do selfish and reckless things for understandable reasons and just end up losing themselves in the process. Not to mention, everybody including the entitled FL character treat Magnifico as some sort of wishing vending machine. He came from humble beginnings, lost everything, had to build it all from the ground up once again, gives everybody everything they need (and I bet the health care is top notch since Asha’s grandfather is 100 and still kicking), doesn’t tax his people, has the economy running smoothly, there are no crimes, Magnifico even listens to people’s rants and concerns and yet it’s never good enough and they still want more more more.
Last time I’ve checked, greed is bad, being thankful for what you have is important considering not all countries have a king like Magnifico where the economy is bad, crime rates are high, poor people are exploited and trafficked in slave trade, poor people die of starvation, children are orphaned and families are separated, etc. None of these people seem grateful for what they had or what the king had to go through for the sake of giving these people the AMAZING life they have but they need their stupid wishes granted because they’re never happy or satisfied with the things they take for granted. There have been so many valuable lessons on never being grateful for what you have and taking things for granted because in stories like that, people loose everything.
Idc that Magnifico acts like a jerk or is narcissistic because that doesn’t make someone bad or a villain. If you take away the crimes that Gaston has committed like trying to force Belle to marry him, threatening her father, and killing the beast; he would simply just be a jerk. And Tony Stark was a narcissist, but he didn’t have a narcissistic personality disorder and he cared deeply for people and even ended up making the ultimate sacrifice for the universe. Not just his world, but trillions of others. They say Magnifico was suppose to be the most intimidating villain but that is just overly exaggerated since Frollo, Scar, Belos and other villains exist. And you know what? Encanto has proven that you don’t need a villain for stakes to be high and to make a compelling story.
We didn’t need a villain for this story and just how compelling would it have been if Asha’s selfishness caused chaos upon the kingdom, Magnifico scolded her, lost his trust in her and she had to earn it all over again. Or maybe twist things up a bit and make Asha the villain (which she kind of is). Or like previously planned, make both Magnifico and his wife a villainous duo. That would’ve been so fun!!! Oh and I’m also furious about being cheated out of a romance between Asha and a shapeshifting star boy who would’ve given off Jack Frost vibes. 😓 sorry for the long essay. 😵💫
All good! Sometimes, we tell long story so that we can have a better understanding of the situation.
Meh, I like your essays
Not the biggest fan of Wanda right now but you still brought up valid points. Personally, I think "the old switch-aroo" would have worked for "Wish". Why?
Because then,Asha would see that just because a wish SEEMS good, doesn't mean it entails all things good. What if someone wished for sunny days everyday? That could either make Midnight Sun or evaporated all the water to the point where all the crops withered away
What if a man wished for a daycare for boys but that man was a "Mr. Bad touch",if you know what I mean. The list goes on and on for wishes that could go wrong
You need to learn to use spaces or smaller paragraphs- no one in their right mind are gonna read your biography long post
@@Mera2300 thank you.
@@DragonGoddess18 oh thank you! You make valid points too. And I agree. Bruce Almighty and Puss in Boots and the last wish did this waaayyy better. It’s almost as if consequences exist for a reason or something.
As they say, All magic comes with a price.
The people who say that are idiots. Everything has a price. Moving burns energy. Magic is powerful but its not the prices that screw you, its your dumb arse not understanding how magic works.
"I wish only for the music of my victim's dying screams!"
I have spent my whole life failing to achieve my goals and wishes. It'd be nice of someone would pay my bills and feed me. Even if you removed my wish to create a story people enjoy, I would still have fun drawing or writing... it might even help because without the constant weight of goals on me, maybe I could stumble into it, or get the actual drafts done.
I imagine a lot of those people who wish to have a family still stumble into that all the time. Magnifico probably got called on all the time to be tinder for a bunch of 18 year olds who's biggest goal with going to pound town with the hottest person they knew.
Which is a great example of a bad wish. If you grant a wish for someone(B) to fall in love with the wisher(A), you're removing agency from B. And what if B is actually in love with C? It's a wish that just simply can't be granted in good conscience
So i will say in the movie when your wish is taken, it will take everything you love about the wish away too.
So you would effectively hate writing and drawing and have no desire to do it. That doesn't mean you couldn't find happiness in other ways of course.
Now even still doesn't seem like the worst trade but yeah like Ursula says in another Disney film, there must always be a price.
Example: the grandpa who's wish was to inspire, despite not saying it it was a wish about how much he loved music, the wish being taken effectively meant that he never played anything again the rest of his life until he got his wish back.
It may have even helped a lot of them. If that was their wish, and it got removed, they can now move on and focus on finding an actual relationship.
And even the one he grants, he granted her the magical scissors to go on to perfect her wish with. Utterly perfect
the only ‘good’ rendition of that kind of wish would be something like ‘i wish A knew how i felt about them’ and even then that’s morally gray
No one with a single brain cell ever rooted for her, or believed the king was wrong. That's how you know Disney made it.
The fact she wanted EVERYONE’S wish granted shows she hasn’t been around long enough to know how many awful people there are in the world. Jack Horner is a fine example why so few people should have a wish granted and for good reason.
Another take, Hitler's wish. Osama's wish. And many more psychopaths wishes.
King Magnifico was smart enough to realize a simple truth. No wish that he granted with his magic would exist purely in a vacuum without consequences for other people. For a fairly simple wish like say being a great farmer these ripples would be pretty much entirely benign and even helpful to the kingdom, but for something like being a great hero? There would have to be an antagonist, an epic journey with battles and danger, and most likely a lot of innocent people would get hurt or worse. Overall an unacceptable risk for the kingdom and all the people under his care.
I like how a lot of people watched Wish because Magnifico was advertised as the first truly evil Disney villain in a while and then he turns out to be the only good character in the movie
Disney: "Wish is about not asking for a miracle and doing what you have to to achieve your dreams"
The movie: * Gives Asha a magic companion able to do AS THE PLOT REQUIRES *
* Gives Asha a magic wand to grant wishes *
Don’t Grant everyone’s wish, some people will abuse it for evil, this video makes so much sense.
It feels like every single analysis of Magnifico or Asha concludes that Magnifico was right and Asha's a spoiled brat
Cause it’s true
@@Crocc101 fair
Because theese "analyses" rely on making up what the conflict between them was, passing it off as true, and everyone being dumb enough to buy it.
Imagine everyone complaining that you haven’t had a real villain in a long time, so you genuinely just try to make an “evil-for-evils” sake character only for everyone to sympathize with him anyways
All it takes is “ I wish death wasn’t a thing”
That’s a horrible one.
@@mugenokami2201 increadibly horrible, the overpopulation, the loss of the meaning of life and also biological imbalance.
@@aurelian2668 an example would be from futrama: the head museum
Elden Ring did this well. The removal of Death from the lands between caused so many unforseen issues. One is that while the spirit may die but the body continues on, which results in those who live in death. Caelid wouldn't nearly be as bad as it is if things were allowed to die and rot naturally. But they can't, so it's an irradiated hellhole now.
@@Foogi9000the fact someone mentioned this fact from Elden ring makes me kinda happy
Pretty much every single movie based upon granting wishes has enough wisdom to understand that there are unintended consequences of wishing for things to be magically granted to you, and why such magic shouldn't be entertained as a means to an end.
In _Puss In Boots: The Last Wish,_ Puss, Kitty, and Goldie are all pursuing the wishing star for selfish reasons, but by the end, they respectively got want they needed instead of want they wanted, got want they wanted without magic, or realized they had what they wanted all along, so unite to stop Jack Horner from getting his wish for all the magic in the world, because it would cause unfathomable disaster.
In _Bruce Almighty,_ God gives Bruce his powers to teach Bruce that he both can't do better than God, and that he has already been given everything he needs to succeed. Before Bruce learns this, he uses his powers for selfish reasons and answers everyone's prayers in New York with "yes." which ultimately causes chaos and pandemonium by creating fearful, weak, and entitled people.
Even for as horrible as _Wonder Woman 1984_ is, it at least had _some_ understanding of wishes having negative consequences, either by taking something dear to cause the wish to occur, a wish having massive repercussions with those reacting to the outcome of a wish, or in perusing vainglorious powers losing sight of what really matters.
This is a trope older than movies. The trope namer story, _The Monkey's Paw,_ was written all the way back in 1902. But the "be careful what you wish for" moral goes back for THOUSANDS of years. It's been a staple of stories that use magic as a mechanic for as long as stories with magic have been around.
But _Wish?_ The "moral" is: "all wishes are good, and people who have the power to give you everything you wish for should give it to you because you want it; if they don't, they're evil, and you should cast them down, and then you'll get everything you want, and you deserve it, because you're just _that_ "special.""
_Wish_ was made by people who have never been told "no" in their lives, then throw temper tantrums until they get what they want, or if such wants are not granted, slander and libel those of whom would not grant their selfish desires as abusive. _Wish_ was made by people with the mentality of INFANTS, screaming in distress until an outside party comes along to give them something to placate them; things they can't fathom how they came to be: to them, it must seem as though it appeared out of thin air... _like _*_magic..._*
Just a reminder, giving your dreams to magnifico WAS NOT a requirement, he told them they could, not that they had to
Its not just that they willingly gave up their wishes to live in safety... They specifically gave up their wishes for a chance for that wish to someday be granted.
Think about it... You _could_ toil and work hard to maybe fulfill your wish on your own (though many of the wishes are NOT able to be fulfilled by hard work alone, such as the wish to be able to fly) and all that hard work might not even pay off... OR you could give your wish to Magnifico, stay in Rosas with everything provided for you, you don't even have to pay for houses or do taxes, and maybe someday your wish will get an automatic pass as a bonus. The only downside is that you'll feel kinda dead inside (but I dunno about you, that doesn't sound much different from normal).
This story could have been about how you shouldn't just sit idly by waiting for someone else to fulfill your wish, and instead go out and work to make your dreams a reality, but nope. That's not what they wanted to do. Instead everyone should just MAGICALLY get their wishes fulfilled, regardless of whether they're good wishes or not. They completely gloss over the fact that some people might have messed up wishes.
Keep in mind as well that Magnifico was giving them free food and housing when he gets nothing out of it because he can just magic up or pay for whatever he wants, but he does it anyway because he wants to help people. He also was taking people's wishes and granting some of them before he even knew that having other people's wishes is a way to become more powerful. He had the great power and he took on the great responsibility that came along with it (being careful as to who he grants wishes to) until Disney decided that he is evil now and made him possessed. Then after he is defeated, he is replaced by Asha as a wish granter (even though the movie was trying to say that everyone should work towards their own wishes and having one person controlling who gets their wishes granted is bad) who doesn't care about the ramifications as long as it makes her feel happy inside that she has "helped" people.
so wishes are just taxes The villain's evil plan is just paying taxes or move
Giving up your wish was optional, so it’s even worse as there was no price other then what you did to yourself!
Money as a tax is justifiable. Money can be used to pay for infrastructure and other government services.
But imagine having to give up body parts. Eyes, fingers, hands, arms, toes, legs.
Or worse, parts of your mind, your personality, your very self.
That last one is what it means to give up a wish. If it was mandatory, it would be monstrous.
But apparently it was optional? In which case these people are morons for giving up their wishes, but it's their own stupid fault. Can't blame Magnifico for providing the option.
The people who think asha is the hero are def the target audience
Disney had the audacity to put “be careful what you wish for” on the cover, like that was the lesson everybody learned.
Bro there is no poverty, no need to pay for anything, aint no way DISNEY managed to make him the villain. Asha just turned the most successful society ever into a shithole
I would also like to point out that getting you wish granted with your own two hands and through your own effort can make the wish more meaningful than if a higher power just gives it to you with no character building or effort!
Conflicting depictions from various people muddy this issue. Some say giving the wish was optional, others say it was a mandatory price for living there. You can't work towards granting your own wish if you can't remember what it was. Without your wish, an integral part of your self is missing. If giving the wish is mandatory, Magnifico was evil and had to be stopped (though Asha was also so stupid as to be effectively evil). If it was optional, then almost everyone who gave up their wish was a moron, and inflicted this evil upon themselves.
yeah he literally says in the movie the people just aren’t bothered to try themselves he’s not making them do anything they choose to give up their ambitions
You know it’s funny, I’ve seen all these things about Wish but I’ve never actually seen the movie myself!
You're not missing out much.
@@theuncalledfor The reason I consider Magnifico the villain is because he lied to people about the probability of their wish being granted. From Asha's reaction, it doesn't seem to be well known that many wishes won't be granted.
Also, Magnifico seems power hungry. Like he bans everyone else from learning magic and wouldn't grant the grandfathers wish because it threatened his power and influence.
I have to agree with Asha that people should have the right to work towards their wishes if they please but automatically granting every wish may not be a good idea although I believe people should have the right to remember their wishes.
Another that bothered me is the movie poster. It says "be careful what you wish for" in the slogan but that was not the message at all! The movie told us that wishes should be granted so what were the characters being careful for? Did disney even pay attention to that?
The Fairly Oddparents literally tells us that granting every wish is an AWFUL idea. That’s why Da Rules existed.
Preface: Wish was a bad movie, and I agree with everything you said.
One point of note people tend not to mention, is the detail that when the wish is handed over in order to stay there, they forget the wish completely. Part of Asha's argument was if the wish can't be granted because it's too vague, why can't they be given back so the individual can at least still have that wish and pursue it on their own initiative with hard work, rather than have it magically granted.
I'm not saying it's a great argument, but it does have at least some merit, but as the wish is handed over to stay in the kingdom. Having said that, how about if someone does leave? Do they get their wish back? Or is it like a non-refundable deposit?
End of the day, Wish is just a bad movie. Pre-book Magnifico was right in his stance, we don't know enough about the prospect of people getting their wish back if they choose to leave the kingdom, and Asha was a terrible proteagonist.
While it was a total pos move to seat Asha on the stage, also consider that he’s been interviewing for an apprentice for what they elude to as some time. And they also elude to that multiple apprentices or people in the past have pretended to be interested in his craft or attempted to get close to him just to ask for a favor or for their wish to be granted. Magnifico was genuinely invested in Asha and she immediately let him down with her own self centered motives. I have to assume Asha was the straw that broke the camels back and that’s why magnifico was so mean about not granting her or her family’s wishes. He was just done with the selfishness of others and so used micro aggressive measures to dissuade people from attempting to do so again. Since it can be assumed Asha would afterwards go cry to her family and friends and word would spread that if you went begging to the king for wishes you would be condemning not only yourself but your family to not have them granted.
And honestly? Yeah. What makes you so special. Sit down and play the lottery like everyone else lol.
You think anyone buys a lottery ticket and feels entitled to winning just because they play every year?
I am not sure what he did to Asha in the stage was "evil".
It could have been a test that Asha failed.
They also came here (at least the adults) because they felt they couldn’t fulfill their wish themselves so wanted a chance for him to do it for them. The children had a choice when they became adults to either do the same or go out and try to fulfill their wish themselves. They’re free to leave and it seems people can even visit so it’s not like they’re banished to the wilderness, there are other kingdoms.
I wonder if that plot hole left by the potential for bad wishes could be papered over by saying that only wishes born from good intentions can even be manifested as "wishes" in the first place, meaning that King Magnifico is refusing to grant wishes made with good intentions and thus limiting the amount of good things in people's lives? If there isn't some natural limit on what a "wish" can be, then that is indeed a huge plot hole.... they really needed more worldbuilding to make this work. Though I have to admit, it reminds me of the story of Super Mario RPG... that was also a world in which wishes couldn't be granted because of the villain. I wonder if there's some alternate definition of "wish" that we all know subconsciously, where a proper wish must be made with a good heart and pure intentions to "count," and anything else is more an ambition or a desire and not a proper wish.
Magnifico also didn't have to grant any wishes. It's not like he got anything from the wishes in the beginning. He didn't even force anyone to give him their wishes, it was completely optional. He chose to start granting wishes and Asha (and other people) felt like they were entitled to it. He could have just told them that he was done granting wishes, if that was how they were going to act.
What needs explaining? This is basic sense... Though, I guess the writers need that explained to them...
"I wish for everyone to drop dead" Boom, story ends like the original folktales Disney took inspiration from.
It's not even just a matter of some wishes being evil and the potential for the wish to be granted in a negative way. There's also the distinct possibility that the wish, even when pure and good and granted in good faith, could have side consequences that one might not expect. There's any number of ways almost any wish could result in something bad happening, so being careful is only practical. And it might have made a more interesting story too, forcing the girl to learn a lesson about the chaos that can be brought on by not thinking things through or thinking that kindness and generosity means giving people whatever they want. Could even still make Magnifico the bad guy, but have a certain tragic edge to it as she has to realize that even if he became bad, he didn't start that way, and in the end he was entirely right.
There is a theory floating around that Asha's wish to Lum-...er, I mean the legally distinct star companion for everyone to see him for the villain he truly is changed him into a villain. This would explain why his personality changes so drastically and why he opens the book in the first place. This actually FURTHER proves that Magnifico was right because if her wish truly did change someone's personality, then her wish is way more dangerous than even she realized.
What's stopping the people from creating more wishes themselves?
Most gave their wishes at 18, but what you wish for at 18 may not what you wish for at 30 or even 20.
Perhaps giving up your wish mentally cripples you and stops you from ever having a core wish again. Or maybe they DID develop new wishes over time, but since they forgot their one wish that they gave to Magnifico, they thought that one was probably much greater than whatever they developed afterward, even if it was actually something stupid and inane. Or maybe the writers are morons and never considered something this obvious.
This movie is a spoiled, selfish child demanding her way, and destroying a good king and likely a kingdom when she doesn't get what she wants. Its so stupid, and it would have been so easy to make him a proper villain... just have him stealing the power of wishes and/or twisting the wishes into something dark from the beginning, or have the people be weakened or darkened when they give up their wishes. Get rid of the book and have it just be him putting up the front of being a good king, and poof, standard evil Disney villain.
As it is, Magnifico earned everything he had. He learned magic through his own hard work, built an incredible kingdom, and opened it to everyone. Meanwhile Asha demanded everything while earning nothing. Its quite like how our society is becoming. We have the older generations who succeeded or failed based on their own hard work and merit, and the younger generations who think they deserve success because other people have it, not interested in how that success comes to them or in putting in the work.
@@mmecharlotte the majority of the people who live in poverty in the US don't have fields to work in, or garages. Instead they live in cities.
But yeah, I'd say the kids 'out in the country' grow up into far better people than the majority of the ones growing up in cities or suburbs.
And some people saying Ariel is selfish with what she wanted. At least she kinda realized her mistake and she did care about her friends and family. And besides, she’s a teenager, teenagers are bound to make stupid mistakes.
Ah yes the goold old people from the previous generation who salted the fields that we are now expected to grow crops on
Ah yes the good old generations that lived in a time of affordable housing and jobs that required little to zero experience to join. Ah yes, if only the damn kids could just get a job that requires 20 years of experience in a field 5 years old, or buy a 500K apartment the size of a closet, with 3K rent a month. Maybe those youngins would learn to appreciate their forefathers hard work.
That’s a good point, but it’s not really a generational thing. An Ancient Greek once wrote “How is humanity meant to survive with the youth of today?” Well, we survived. People have complained about the younger generation since the beginning of time. The problem is cultural.
The plot idea had so much potential. The initial story was supposed to be different. You are so right. Instead Disney came up with a bad story, no character or development, bad animation, and bad songs and lyrics. I'm glad I haven't seen it.
"I wish to inspire the next generation." He can do that without a wish though.