thanks alec.. I am too far into the no weld grinder now to stop but if this doesn't work out I'm off to the Oregon blademaker. I wish I had seen your video first, your video has sold me. ive got a grizzly 2" x 72" knife maker, have used it for over 10 years, never had any problems but it has a lot of limitations. thanks and have a great day. ron
Great video, thanks for taking the time to share! I have built my 2x72 from scratch, but have slowly been adding commercial parts to it from Ore BladeMaker. Quality parts for sure! $$ was a big issue in my decision to build one. I have built it to replicate pretty much the same base machine you bought. I have already added OBM flat platen attachment, I also put on the same tool rest you got except mines red, and I have all the right wheels from OBM. I am not entirely happy with the tolerances of my machine, so I am hoping to add everything to it that I want in a knife grinder, then spring for the extra $$ to buy the frame and a couple decent tooling arms.I have the 10" wheel from grizzly that I want to get on an arm and start using as well. Anywayz lol thanks for the vid. have fun with it!
I know nothing about these grinders but in IMO the looseness in the slide or post into its receiver you mentioned needs to be there, because when you tighten down the knob to lock the slide it will displace and raise the aluminum of the slide a small amount. Therefore if there was no clearance the slide would soon be stuck in its receiver after a few tightenings. I'm sure you know that when you cut aluminum you can use a fine tooth carbide blade just like you would use for wood. Negative rake is best. Put some veggie oil on the blade before cutting so the aluminum doesn't stick. Cuts like butter......Thanks for the video!
i just bought one its hard to beat his price. Ive been using a grinder i made from treadmill parts. Seems like i had to work on it more than i made knives so i gave in and bought one of these. The motor and vfd i got was $274 hell of alot cheaper than your name brand grinders
Great job on setting it up. Interesting vfd. You should look into installing a knob to control rpm instead of using the keypad. Would save wear and tear on the keypad.
I would be very interested in seeing that. How will you do that without using a face mount motor mounted directly on the grinder body? Please post a pic if you built this..this is the only thing keeping me from buying this grinder.
Great Job on the Setup! Thanks for the Info ... And you work quickly ... but the real prize goes to you partner there - I think she knitted a whole sweater while you were doing that. :)
Great video! I noticed that the VFD you are using is rated at 1hp and your motor is rated at 1.5hp. Have you had any issues with that? Your VFD should be at least 1.5hp.
8 лет назад+1
+BJH2015 Well as a rule of thumb yes your VFD should be rated for the same or more then the motor. But when i purchased my VFD the price difference between the 1hp & 1.5hp was substantial so i took a chance and it doesnt effect the power at all! it has plenty and i havnt been able to slow it down even when ive tried to. So the hp rating should be used as a "guide" but not the rule. Btw i have since found a way better deal on drives and motors @ Dealerselectric.com they have the motor and a better drive combo for sale for the same price i payed for just my motor!!
Hey this is my personal account. You made a good choice with ordering one of these i highly recommend them. One thing with setup though is if you are doing direct drive as in mounting the drive wheel direct onto the motor shaft it is hard to fit the motor close enough to the chassis of the belt sander to fit the belts. If i did it again i would make the motor run a pulley to a shaft that had the drive wheel on it for more flexibility. If you need any help contact me through my website Guthblades.com Thank & Good Luck
thanks for the video. I was wondering about it when I saw it on ebay. you've had time to shake it down some so what do you think now, would you still buy it ??thanksron
@Ron Newton Hi Ron, Ive had this grinder for 6 months and i have made close to 20 knives with it. To be fair the only other grinders ive used are HF 1x30, grizzly 1x42 and i used a beaumont metal works 2x72 a bit. Its at least is good if not better then the beaumont metal works grinder because of the multiple tooling slots. I cant imagine having a grinder with only one slot, alot of versatility. This thing is rock solid. I cant say enough good things about it and the guy who makes them! Hes great to do business with, quick and inexpensive. After 6 months i feel more confident about this machine then i after 1 month no issues with it all. Now alot will depend on the motor and drive you buy and i have recently found a much better dealer on a motor+drive combo so if your interested i can send you the link. Side Note: I recently got the Oregon Blademaker stand that he sells and it is built to the same standards "solid as a rock". I had a stand that i made and didnt think it would be that much better but it is. I highly recommend that as well. Pretty much anything he makes is A+ but at a great price. Let me know if you have any more questions my email is Guth.Blades@gmail.com
Hi, I was wondering if you could make a video of you using it, putting it through its paces, seeing how well the tracking is, grinding from the edge of the belt, look for slipping and sliding etc. I don't expect there to be much but would like to see. Also, how much galling have you noticed with those aluminum tool arms. Finally, have you made anything with the extra tool arms? Contact wheel, small contact wheel for inside curves etc. Thanks again!
Hey Bruce, Well I would be happy to do that for you. Are you considering this machine? I have been using it almost everyday now for 2.5 months and i have a good feel for it, its solid. I actually have a video in the works now that shows almost everything you requested. It just shows it while im making a knife, but real world use is the best example. So mabye ill add in a little section of heavy use just to let it shine. So the aluminum tooling arm is obviously not as good as steel but it is sooo easy to drill/tap and so far i have not noticed any galling it is 6061 t-6 aluminum which is a bit stronger then some other alums. So far i have the regular flat platten, small wheel attachment, and a work rest on the 3 tooling arms. I just ordered a slack belt attachment which i need another tooling arm for. If these dont get covered in the knife making video then ill do a "3 month review" and go over those things. Hope i answered all your questions & Have a good day!
Thank you very much. Yes I am considering this machine. When you use the flat platen, can you push the platen away and use that section for slack belt and finally can you reverse your motor with the controller? I have always thought that being able to do so would be a lot safer for final sharpening. Thanks again!
No problem Glad to help! - Yes you can move the platen but it takes an allen wrench and takes some readjustment everytime. Thats why im buying a separate platen assembly with a deeper throat made for slack belt use. - Yes with the VFD you can pretty much do anything and they are very cheap my 1.5 hp motor cost $175 and it is very high quality and the vfd which is rated for 1hp but works plenty fine cost $125. It has plenty of power Let me know if you have anymore questions
Thank you for the great video Alec, as well as the links to the motor and VFD. I'm curious about where you got your base plate, as well as your VFD enclosure. Have any links for those? Thanks again.
Im very glad you like the video and i hope it helps you make a decision. The Base plate: I baseplate is homemade actually i bought a 3' x 3' section of sheet metal (22g i believe) from Lowe's. Then i laminated 2 pieces of 3/4" MDF and bent the sheet metal around the edges to give me a nice surface that is rust resistant and wont scratch off like paint wood plus i can also ground the machine and the baseplate to reduce some static buildup. The Enclosure: I have an awesome family owned local hardware store 100' down the road from my house and they let me pick through a bunch of old electrical stuff that was damaged. The enclosure is actually an old bus bar box, i ripped out the guts and cut an opening in the front to fit the VFD. I could not find something that fit my VFD @ Lowes but i did not check Homedepot. I did find a PVC box @ Lowes that worked. So all i can really say is check out your hardware stores and take some measurements! Hope this helps & Have a good one!
hi, thanks for the video. i ordered one of these grinder and it's on the way. did you get yours up and running? how is it going? they recommend a motor @ 3600 rpm. how is it running at that speed?
You made a good choice you wont be disappointed! Yeah i have had mine running for awhile now. I have a VFD (variable speed drive) setup on mine so it has variable speed. I highly recommend you do not make yours direct drive from the motor like i did. You should use step pulleys from the motor to a shaft to have variable speed (you can find multiple pictures and tutorials on this. The step pulleys would allow you to run the grinder 5 different speeds. I run mine at 3600 often but only for metal when I'm shaping handles or using the small wheel attachments i slow it down. If you have any trouble getting yours set up go to my website and it has my email or my cell #, let me know and id be happy to help
Hey dude, great video! I am going to buy this grinder aswell, I know someone who has a brand new 4hp motor laying around, I can buy it for 100 euro's, is 4hp overpowered? is it better to get something like a 2 horsepower?
Good choice! this grinder is awesome and for the money there is nothing better! Check out his store on Ebay hes offering new stuff all the time. I recently got the Grinder base and i highly recommend it. It really helps with vibration and makes the setup super quick.
No absolutely not. There are production grinders available with 5+ hp. With that much speed you want a VFD and im assuming its going to be 3 phase in which case you will also need a VFD. You can find them for $150-400 and they allow you to have variable speed which i think is absolutely necessary for different tasks especially when you have that much power you need to be able to control it. IF you need help finding one or help seting it up contact me through my email or cell#, you can find both on my website. Good Luck!
Hello and thank you for the video i think it is the best review and thorough video of this belt grinder i have been researching this grinder for a month and a half and i was wondering alot of people have said which and what to get but i would consider your opinion highly over theres i was wondering if you could tell me i only have 110v what motor and vfd and what size of the oregon blade maker drive do you think any help would be greatly appreciated! other suggested dealerselectric.com/item.asp?cID=2&scID=132&PID=24790 dealerselectric.com/1HP-1800RPM-115Volts-Input-Package.asp
8 лет назад
+Colton Poormon Hi And thank you very much! Actually the VFD that i use is made in 110v or 220v so just order the 110v version and i think you can run up to 1 hp possibly 1.5 hp. I really appreciate the kind words sorry it took me awhile to get back to you please feel free to email me at Guth.blades@gmail.com i can get back to you much faster there
Worst company out there. terrible customer service and rip you off on shipping and call you a thief after NOT recieving what you ordered. Awesome business practice.
thanks alec.. I am too far into the no weld grinder now to stop but if this doesn't work out I'm off to the Oregon blademaker. I wish I had seen your video first, your video has sold me. ive got a grizzly 2" x 72" knife maker, have used it for over 10 years, never had any problems but it has a lot of limitations. thanks and have a great day. ron
Great video, thanks for taking the time to share!
I have built my 2x72 from scratch, but have slowly been adding commercial parts to it from Ore BladeMaker. Quality parts for sure! $$ was a big issue in my decision to build one. I have built it to replicate pretty much the same base machine you bought. I have already added OBM flat platen attachment, I also put on the same tool rest you got except mines red, and I have all the right wheels from OBM. I am not entirely happy with the tolerances of my machine, so I am hoping to add everything to it that I want in a knife grinder, then spring for the extra $$ to buy the frame and a couple decent tooling arms.I have the 10" wheel from grizzly that I want to get on an arm and start using as well. Anywayz lol thanks for the vid. have fun with it!
I know nothing about these grinders but in IMO the looseness in the slide or post into its receiver you mentioned needs to be there, because when you tighten down the knob to lock the slide it will displace and raise the aluminum of the slide a small amount. Therefore if there was no clearance the slide would soon be stuck in its receiver after a few tightenings.
I'm sure you know that when you cut aluminum you can use a fine tooth carbide blade just like you would use for wood. Negative rake is best. Put some veggie oil on the blade before cutting so the aluminum doesn't stick. Cuts like butter......Thanks for the video!
i just bought one its hard to beat his price. Ive been using a grinder i made from treadmill parts. Seems like i had to work on it more than i made knives so i gave in and bought one of these. The motor and vfd i got was $274 hell of alot cheaper than your name brand grinders
Great job on setting it up. Interesting vfd. You should look into installing a knob to control rpm instead of using the keypad. Would save wear and tear on the keypad.
Nice looking machine! I'm planning on bench space and adding a 90 degree tilt if I buy it. What is the height and width of the main body?
I would be very interested in seeing that. How will you do that without using a face mount motor mounted directly on the grinder body? Please post a pic if you built this..this is the only thing keeping me from buying this grinder.
Great Job on the Setup! Thanks for the Info ... And you work quickly ... but the real prize goes to you partner there - I think she knitted a whole sweater while you were doing that. :)
Great video! I noticed that the VFD you are using is rated at 1hp and your motor is rated at 1.5hp. Have you had any issues with that? Your VFD should be at least 1.5hp.
+BJH2015 Well as a rule of thumb yes your VFD should be rated for the same or more then the motor. But when i purchased my VFD the price difference between the 1hp & 1.5hp was substantial so i took a chance and it doesnt effect the power at all! it has plenty and i havnt been able to slow it down even when ive tried to. So the hp rating should be used as a "guide" but not the rule. Btw i have since found a way better deal on drives and motors @ Dealerselectric.com they have the motor and a better drive combo for sale for the same price i payed for just my motor!!
Got it. Thanks! BTW, how have you liked your Oregon Blademaker grinder since you made the video?
+Güth Blades could you post the better setup or maybe one for us that only have 110 volt
Thank You for taking the time to make your video.
I just ordered one of these, excited to get it installed. Great video !
Hey this is my personal account. You made a good choice with ordering one of these i highly recommend them. One thing with setup though is if you are doing direct drive as in mounting the drive wheel direct onto the motor shaft it is hard to fit the motor close enough to the chassis of the belt sander to fit the belts. If i did it again i would make the motor run a pulley to a shaft that had the drive wheel on it for more flexibility.
If you need any help contact me through my website Guthblades.com Thank & Good Luck
Very nice video Alec congrats and thanks for sharing, could you post a video on stock removal with this awesome grinder?
after 6 years, how is it working for you>
The motor's junction box was sure getting in the way.
thanks for the video. I was wondering about it when I saw it on ebay. you've had time to shake it down some so what do you think now, would you still buy it ??thanksron
@Ron Newton
Hi Ron, Ive had this grinder for 6 months and i have made close to 20 knives with it. To be fair the only other grinders ive used are HF 1x30, grizzly 1x42 and i used a beaumont metal works 2x72 a bit. Its at least is good if not better then the beaumont metal works grinder because of the multiple tooling slots. I cant imagine having a grinder with only one slot, alot of versatility.
This thing is rock solid. I cant say enough good things about it and the guy who makes them! Hes great to do business with, quick and inexpensive. After 6 months i feel more confident about this machine then i after 1 month no issues with it all. Now alot will depend on the motor and drive you buy and i have recently found a much better dealer on a motor+drive combo so if your interested i can send you the link.
Side Note: I recently got the Oregon Blademaker stand that he sells and it is built to the same standards "solid as a rock". I had a stand that i made and didnt think it would be that much better but it is. I highly recommend that as well. Pretty much anything he makes is A+ but at a great price.
Let me know if you have any more questions my email is Guth.Blades@gmail.com
where did you aquire that wood backed stainless butcher block that you mounted it to?
Hi, I was wondering if you could make a video of you using it, putting it through its paces, seeing how well the tracking is, grinding from the edge of the belt, look for slipping and sliding etc. I don't expect there to be much but would like to see.
Also, how much galling have you noticed with those aluminum tool arms.
Finally, have you made anything with the extra tool arms? Contact wheel, small contact wheel for inside curves etc.
Thanks again!
Hey Bruce,
Well I would be happy to do that for you. Are you considering this machine? I have been using it almost everyday now for 2.5 months and i have a good feel for it, its solid. I actually have a video in the works now that shows almost everything you requested. It just shows it while im making a knife, but real world use is the best example. So mabye ill add in a little section of heavy use just to let it shine.
So the aluminum tooling arm is obviously not as good as steel but it is sooo easy to drill/tap and so far i have not noticed any galling it is 6061 t-6 aluminum which is a bit stronger then some other alums.
So far i have the regular flat platten, small wheel attachment, and a work rest on the 3 tooling arms. I just ordered a slack belt attachment which i need another tooling arm for. If these dont get covered in the knife making video then ill do a "3 month review" and go over those things.
Hope i answered all your questions & Have a good day!
Thank you very much.
Yes I am considering this machine.
When you use the flat platen, can you push the platen away and use that section for slack belt and finally can you reverse your motor with the controller? I have always thought that being able to do so would be a lot safer for final sharpening.
Thanks again!
No problem Glad to help!
- Yes you can move the platen but it takes an allen wrench and takes some readjustment everytime. Thats why im buying a separate platen assembly with a deeper throat made for slack belt use.
- Yes with the VFD you can pretty much do anything and they are very cheap my 1.5 hp motor cost $175 and it is very high quality and the vfd which is rated for 1hp but works plenty fine cost $125. It has plenty of power
Let me know if you have anymore questions
Hey thanks for the great video! your shop makes me jealous!!
Haveing a problem with mine not wanting to track
Thank you for the great video Alec, as well as the links to the motor and VFD. I'm curious about where you got your base plate, as well as your VFD enclosure. Have any links for those? Thanks again.
Im very glad you like the video and i hope it helps you make a decision.
The Base plate:
I baseplate is homemade actually i bought a 3' x 3' section of sheet metal (22g i believe) from Lowe's. Then i laminated 2 pieces of 3/4" MDF and bent the sheet metal around the edges to give me a nice surface that is rust resistant and wont scratch off like paint wood plus i can also ground the machine and the baseplate to reduce some static buildup.
The Enclosure:
I have an awesome family owned local hardware store 100' down the road from my house and they let me pick through a bunch of old electrical stuff that was damaged. The enclosure is actually an old bus bar box, i ripped out the guts and cut an opening in the front to fit the VFD. I could not find something that fit my VFD @ Lowes but i did not check Homedepot. I did find a PVC box @ Lowes that worked. So all i can really say is check out your hardware stores and take some measurements!
Hope this helps & Have a good one!
Love the wife? In the background crocheting it looks like? Very good looking grinder from Oregon Blade Makers.
It's just plain old Knitting bro
hi,
thanks for the video. i ordered one of these grinder and it's on the way. did you get yours up and running? how is it going? they recommend a motor @ 3600 rpm. how is it running at that speed?
You made a good choice you wont be disappointed!
Yeah i have had mine running for awhile now. I have a VFD (variable speed drive) setup on mine so it has variable speed. I highly recommend you do not make yours direct drive from the motor like i did. You should use step pulleys from the motor to a shaft to have variable speed (you can find multiple pictures and tutorials on this. The step pulleys would allow you to run the grinder 5 different speeds. I run mine at 3600 often but only for metal when I'm shaping handles or using the small wheel attachments i slow it down.
If you have any trouble getting yours set up go to my website and it has my email or my cell #, let me know and id be happy to help
note: motor and controls 3 phase.
Hey dude, great video! I am going to buy this grinder aswell, I know someone who has a brand new 4hp motor laying around, I can buy it for 100 euro's, is 4hp overpowered? is it better to get something like a 2 horsepower?
Good choice! this grinder is awesome and for the money there is nothing better! Check out his store on Ebay hes offering new stuff all the time. I recently got the Grinder base and i highly recommend it. It really helps with vibration and makes the setup super quick.
+Alec Guth :) and do yuo know if 4 hp is too much? or is it ok with a vfd?
No absolutely not. There are production grinders available with 5+ hp. With that much speed you want a VFD and im assuming its going to be 3 phase in which case you will also need a VFD. You can find them for $150-400 and they allow you to have variable speed which i think is absolutely necessary for different tasks especially when you have that much power you need to be able to control it.
IF you need help finding one or help seting it up contact me through my email or cell#, you can find both on my website. Good Luck!
I meant to say "with that much *power*" not speed
Alec Guth Thank you so much!
sorry never mind just read below. awesome video!
That motor is too big. I don't have that kind of outlet.
Nice video but the name of the company is origin blade maker 😂. Thanks for making video👍👍👍👍👍
Hello and thank you for the video i think it is the best review and thorough video of this belt grinder i have been researching this grinder for a month and a half and i was wondering alot of people have said which and what to get but i would consider your opinion highly over theres i was wondering if you could tell me i only have 110v what motor and vfd and what size of the oregon blade maker drive do you think any help would be greatly appreciated!
other suggested
dealerselectric.com/item.asp?cID=2&scID=132&PID=24790
dealerselectric.com/1HP-1800RPM-115Volts-Input-Package.asp
+Colton Poormon Hi And thank you very much! Actually the VFD that i use is made in 110v or 220v so just order the 110v version and i think you can run up to 1 hp possibly 1.5 hp.
I really appreciate the kind words sorry it took me awhile to get back to you please feel free to email me at Guth.blades@gmail.com i can get back to you much faster there
Worst company out there. terrible customer service and rip you off on shipping and call you a thief after NOT recieving what you ordered. Awesome business practice.
Your wife is hard worker than you 😀😀😀
I meet this guy at pippinfest