>Episode 4: The Jedi were guardians of peace and safety for 1000 generations >Episode 8: The legacy of the Jedi is failure. >20,000 years of peace is failure :/
Obi Wan was raised and indoctrinated on Jedi propaganda. Of course he would only see them in a positive light. Luke saw them for the history that actually happened.
Meirstein the only time the jedi failed was when darth sideous took over the republic other that the jedi have been successful in maintaining in peace. If luke brought up other things the jedi failed in prevoius gemerations then it would make sense.
Meirstein If you take the pre Disney EU, with the exception of, what, 5 times the galaxy was at peace. Those five times (galaxy wide conflicts) spanned an extremely small fraction of those 20,000 years of Jedi history. In the Disney canon, you only have the Clone Wars and the Great Hyperspace War confirmed so far, which means that this argument is even stronger in the Disney canon.
It doesn't matter how well you run the first half of a marathon if you collapse at mile 14. The Jedi became corrupt, weak, too dogmatic and resistant to change, and couldn't see a literal sith lord right under their noses. The order had an increasing amount of defectors, splitters, and traitors as it approached ruin. Their elimination was an inevitability.
My problem here isn't that Disney doesn't understand what it did wrong - because we all know that Corporations are mindless entities who rely on charts and polls in order to create something, based solely on the desire to make money. What bothers me is that Screen Junkies presented it as THEY don't understand what the problem is either. You can't tell me that the "Original Honest Trailer Voice" guy wasn't portrayed as being the "lesser" of the two voices here. Especially considering that they give him such childish lines like - "Star Wars can only be talked about in absolutes." "Rian Johnson ruined my childhood." What's worse is that the regular Voice Guy literally called the opposition to this movie, "Butthurt Fanboys." And worse, actually tried to defend everything this movie did wrong as somehow doing "right". Sorry guys, but the Kanto Byte scene does NOT connect to a larger theme; it's literally a waste of our time. And how exactly does it practice the Jedi Philosophy, by moving away from quote, "Royal Bloodlines," and "Acts of Aggression"? What sense does that even remotely make? How could anyone find this movie "exhilarating" when 3/4ths of it was literally spent dragging its feet. Also, I find it ironic that they say Force Awakens was a love letter to the original, where as THIS one ripped off the Plot of Empire, just on a slower, far less spectacular way - with a completely unnecessary shoehorned in subplot to boot. Ultimately speaking, what pisses me off is that - if this were ANY other film franchise that fucked up THIS badly, Screen Junkies would have TORN into this movie. Jurassic World at its worst could be called "divisive" and yet they had the nerve to call it an overly expensive SyFy Original Movie. It reminds me of when the new Ghostbusters movie came out and they responded to it as Neutrally as possible. They're terrified of sparking up any sort of controversy that surrounds these movies. They literally do not have any balls...
HISHE was way funnier and didn't play it safe when they tear apart TLJ with their video. Honest Trailer didn't want to anger Disney by criticizing TLJ and instead they went after the fans.
Do you really think more people hate it than like it? Just because a minority is loud doesn’t mean they’re the majority. They accurately portrayed the divide in the fanbase.
I am getting tired of the whole "you just hated the movie because it wasn't the one you had written in your head" argument. No, the movie was a terrible Star Wars movie and that is why I hated it haha
Agreed. I didn't have any theories I was attached to, I didn't even watch any trailers. I went in super excited to see this movie, I really wanted to like it, and I left the theater gutted. Still can't believe it was such a terrible script.
Philip Johnson I didn't watch the movie. But the honest trailer showed a positive and negative aspect of it, mainly to centre to people who like it and didn't. Hishe is a lot better though.
When I saw TLJ, for a moment I honestly thought the part where Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder was a joke - that what I was seeing was not the actual movie, just some stupid preview or something. I was very confused when I realized this was no preview - this was what Disney was giving us for real.
Tharen you gave away all your Star Wars stuff? Even the original trilogy movies? Sorry but I can’t part with those no matter how many offensive new Star Wars movies come out
I don't know who Dan is or any of the writers for that channel but it reminded me of the episodes of SNL where they attempted to seem unbiased and "poked fun at Obama or Hillary" it was always just a veiled attempt to mock the critics of Hillary or Obama.
That was the softest Honest Trailer I have ever seen. Didn't have any edge to it. Made us look like whiny babies. How it should of ended was way more accurate. Course it is screen junkies so they do not have the ability to take it to disney.
I watched, however it makes my blood boil (just a bit) when they keep critiquing the fans, specially with the "If it does not follow your fan theory it was bad" stuff, maybe because I am really tired of hearing that excuse. But still that trailer was almost a bit insulting, but hey I laugh to some stuff too. However the real fun is in the comment section... Oh boy that comment section, makes you wonder why they did not close it like they did with the Ghostbuster reboot.
Thing is I dont care about that stuff. Rey as a nobody is just fine, Jedi can be nobody its not just for Skywalkers. And Snoke just irritates me because of how it was done, feel that if they at least explained him in some way and killed him in less stupid way it would be fine. What I do mind is lazy writing and bad characters. And we got that a lot with this movie.
Indeed, and what really pisses me off and the one thing that is really insulting is... That people actually go out of their way to defend the plot holes and the lazy writing. Hell I was once attack by a horde of Holdo fanboys, let me tell you those kind of people are really bad in the head.
Daniel Walton Paying to see a decent movie is being entitled? Should moviegoers just quietly point out flaws, but graciously thanks Disney for terrible movies?
The thing is...a lot of people didn't think it was terrible. I did..you did...many did not. The amount of time times I've heard: "Not my Star Wars" "Not my Luke Skywalker" "I never asked for this movie" Christ..get over yourselves (not specifically you)! It's not YOUR decision. If people want to make their own Star Wars (or version of Star Wars)..go ahead. Start filming!
How is that being entitled? It literally looks as if people don't like it, and they just stating so. Rian Johnson screwed up and with lore. His version of Luke is a bastardization of a great character.
If you're basing it just off this channel (which isn't a bad one)..obviously it's going to be: -Anti Last Jedi People: 98% -Everyone Else: 2% People generally flock to what they want to hear the most. and again, that's your opinion.
The HISHE was loved by everyone because ya know what it made fun of? The movie! HISHE didn't lay a finger on either side of the fandom thus remaining neutral and ultimately more creative and original with their jokes rather than cashing in on the backlash.
I gotta be honest, I was never a fan of Honest Trailers. They always show up several months after everyone has exhausted criticism on a movie, only to make the exact same jokes everyone has already made. I just don't understand the appeal. And this time it looked like they tried to please both sides, which probably will end up angering both. It's particularly jarring because most of the parts of the video that defend the film do nothing but repeat the same tired bad arguments that defenders of this movie use, like "You only dislike this movie because it's not the one you made in your mind". Fuck no, that's bullshit!
That Luke was definitely a clone, made from the hand he lost when he originally wielded that blue lightsaber. Real Luke is out there with his green lightsaber.
Luuke was merely a puppet of C'Baoth. The clone in this instance would be indoctrinated to believe he was Luke Skywalker, and remain in such a place as to bait rebels into trying to find him, so they could be tracked and the entire resistance eliminated.
Because Disney know they f up. They know the criticism is real and they are trying to pretend it did not happened. I mean just look at the novel that stuff is the definition of Crowd Control.
I feel sorry for anyone who hadn’t yet seen the movie, and bought TLJ on the strength of that admittedly awesome, albeit totally misleading trailer. They are in for a HUGE disappointment.
I found it almost insulting that they use the old music from ROTJ, as if Last Jedi at all represents the classic Star Wars experience. Fucking Prequels were more Star Wars-y than this shit without a doubt.
I’m tired of the lumping in and misrepresentation of those of us that had legitimate problems with the film as butthurt fanboys. It’s crap. It’s a lazy argument that the populists lean on all too frequently.
I actually unsubscribed to screen junkies after that video. Them painting the fan base the way they did and completely ignoring Rose? Nah, I'm out. Not like I won't be seeing their stuff if it's really good but this just failed to address the ACTUAL criticisms fans had with the movie and painted those that didn't like it as people who just are butthurt the movie wasn't what they wanted. Spoilers, that ain't it. I just want a good Star Wars again. Is that too much to ask?
Aggressively Mediocre It's so ironic since they tore BvS apart and blamed the Filmmakers, But blamed the fans for Last Jedi. This was the softest Honest Trailer I've even seen them made.
I just had your video pop up where you did a first impression on the last Jedi trailer. You were almost in tears as so was I. And here we are...You should do a reaction video to your original reaction video. Fuck a misleading trailer! Loving your channel. Keep it up!
R2 D2 believe me, I still hate certain parts of TLJ like Porgs, Rose and Canto Bight, but I take it for what it is because there’s still some good parts to this film.
I thought the Honest Trailers for this was really dumb. It forgot the million plot holes and tried to say that it is a divided fanbase ... It has a lower rating than the prequel trilogy and no fans are divided about that ...
True.....it also feels that they are progressive Liberals where everyone who disagrees with their ideology is a sexist, racist, bigot, homophobe. Just judging their work and listening to their voices.
People who have lost credibility from liking The Last Jedi: -Auralnauts -Jenny Nicholson -Chris Stuckmann -Kevin Smith -Nostalgia Critic -I Hate Everything -GeekyGlassesTV -Hello Greedo -Moviebob -and now, sadly, Honest Trailers R.I.P. 2018
Ah so liking The Last Jedi automatically means you don't have credibility? Honestly the supposed "Star Wars" fans seem like they don't actually care Star Wars as much as they care about hating people.
I'm still actually waiting for someone, anyone to actually come out and tell why they love the movie rather than go immediately on the defensive and just attack people disliking it. We can easily sum up giant lists of issues, but somehow everyone "loving" this only has to argument SW-fanbase is toxic, "theories made you hate it" or otherwise talk about anything BUT the movie.
@@hassathunter2464 2 years late, I know. I love this movie. I love the themes. More so than any other star wars movie. Learning from failure was woven in so well with all the characters and their actions. I love the characters. This is the best the sequel characters have every been. They all have interesting arcs. I think this is Luke's best appearance. I think it's his best written appearance. And Mark Hamill's best performance of the character. I love the directing. This is the best looking movie in the franchise. And unlike most of these movies it actually has really neat shots and angles. I love the story. I really enjoyed the whole chase aspect. It makes for a tense setup when the first order chases down the weak and poor resistance. I like Canto Bite. It works well with the theme. And it's a fun time. And the 3rd act where Luke and Kylo face off is just perfect. I love it so much. This movie wasn't predictable. It doesn't fit into the same formula that do many of these movies do. It tells a story that none of these would. It's not here to worship the past. It's here to deliver a fresh take and, in my opinion, does it so well.
at first i thought i should just let go of the pressure, but then it came to me, if i dont participate and defend my favorite childhood franchise, issues like EP8 will definitely repeat itself....and as long as we let it slip, paying for another abominable popcorn flick, Disney's will definitely continue to milk it out. Now as a true fan, i cant...i just cant keep watching my favorite heroes, characters, stories and lore being violated in such a way. Besides, KK and rj said so themselves, they dont care about the fans anymore. This has to stop! p.s. -- (i've watched 1-6; love them all just fine...)
Why is every reaction everywhere ever just people sitting there silently, laughing a few times, sometimes saying something and nodding a few times. No worries jeremy you are not alone.
Yes, there are laws to space battle in Star Wars... the laws are actual in that created universe. It's fiction/fantasy, not real-life. A creation needs to have continuity.
Though I am tired of The Last Jedi also and have no desire to see it again it is a symptom of hollywood or the entertainment industry as a whole. When you see more and more movies, tv shows or sports events becoming politicized with a leftist/SJW view or having an agenda instead of just being fun entertainment when is enough enough? It's interesting to see the popularity of retro tv channels that show the shows that we grow up with. A great book on the subject of leftist/SJW bias in the entertainment industry is Primetime Propaganda by Ben Shapiro.
This is the best summary of the movie and it's sorted reactions a person could ever ask for! Lol totally true . Really liking your channel bed thanks for being real
yep pretty much hit the nail on the head with every issue we have with The Last Jedi...it has been hashed over so much we could anticipate what was going to happen in the honest trailer
I can´t imagine Kennedy & Johnson walking on stage on the next SW convention without getting booed...maybe this could be the moment they finally understand
When you can't even get any joy out of mocking something anymore. Exhausted. Same. I'm in the middle of Season 2 of Clone Wars. This show is incredible!
Read sci fi / fantasy books for 30 years. Had few series disappoint me hard, terry goodkind / sword of truth, wheel of time also. Just seemed like books started 2 go nowhere and pointless filler characters for extending story. What happened with last Jedi , was by far, beyond disappointment. Unless Tolkien had Frodo raped by Sam , after stealing ring, at edge of volcano, can't imagine worse deviation of storyline. It's like having Mickey piss on you at Disney world at checkout and expecting you 2 book next visit.
Jeremy have you seen Mark Hamil's latest comments? He says they could keep the part of him milking an alien but they cut the part out of him grieving for Han. I'm sure in a couple months Mark is gonna tell us exactly what he thinks of this garbage.
No the ones I've seen are straight through, dude you can tell Hamil hates what they did and he knew a lot of people were gonna hate this movie. If you like it, good for you but I represent a large following who hate this movie
I think this was a good way to end The Last Jedi topic. And as a 'salty' star wars fan myself, I kind of appreciate you also laughed at the *pfft salt* joke. Proves that we're not unreasonable and can laugh at ourselves i guess.
It was funny. I like that they carefully walked the middle of the road. I had hoped that they would just make fun of how bad it is but they need to keep their fans too.
For all SW fans, I have a fan fic planned for the future called Tricerion: A Star Wars Story. It's still a working title at the moment, and I understand fan fiction in general gets a bad rap. I can't rectify that, but here's the link to the first two character bios of the story: Jedi Knight Tillman Klorris and Mandalorian Argus Raish. m.fanfiction.net/s/12875938/1/Tricerion-A-Star-Wars-Fan-Fic
Honest trailers let me down with how safe this trailer was. You can tell they’re holding back for fear of fan backlash. I would have respected them more if they had stuck to one side of the fence (even if the opposite to the one I’m on) rather than sitting on it.
Just watched The Last Jedi again on Blu-ray, (yes I bought it). It wasn’t as bad the second time around. I guess I’ve accepted all of its shortcomings and know they can’t be changed. This time I just enjoyed seeing Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher on the screen together for one final time. Most of the original trilogy cast just got cameos which is a real bummer. When the movie ended, I had the same impression that I did during my first screening. The ending, though it leaves loose ends, feels like the end of the Sequel Trilogy. There is no desire to see another Star Wars movie. The saga has ended.
Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams have no idea what they are doing. They are actually too focused on characters. George Lucas always made it clear that the OT was about a small group of rebels fighting against the tyranny of an empire to bring democracy back to the galaxy. That was the fabric which he then interwove his characters into. And the prequels were the story of how a galaxy with democracy lost all of it to a dictatorial Emperor. Again, that was the fabric and Lucas interwove the characters into it. Episodes 7, 8, and 9 should have been about a galaxy that reclaimed its democracy and Senate only to fall into a civil war. Force use could have been outlawed in the galaxy following what happened with the Emperor and Vader (and the Jedi's failure to stop them). Leia would support this because she was always for peace and democracy. Luke would obviously be at odds with her and would train Jedi in secret. And then as the two sides of the civil war emerge, it can be revealed that one side is training and using Sith. Then Luke and his Jedi could have revealed themselves for an epic showdown. Unfortunately this new trilogy doesn't have any such fabric or background like this to build the characters through. Everyone left Force Awakens saying stuff like "who is the First Order?", "isn't the Rebellion the Rebels?", "where is the Senate, aren't they in charge again?". JJ Abrams was too rushed to get stormtroopers and a dark figure in a breathing mask back on the screen that he ignored natural story progression. This whole sequel is a failure.
Jeremy, I have noticed something lately and I hope you have too. With Mark Hamill making all of the rounds lately to promote the Blu-ray release date, have you noticed any differences between which places he appears by himself versus the places he has Rian Johnson by his side? My observations are that he is allowed to appear by himself in circumstances where Disney has some or all editorial control, e.g. The View or IGN. Otherwise, where Disney lacks such control, such as in the CNNMoney interview, Mark Hamill is not allowed to take questions by himself. Does this appear the same to you?
TO be fair, you'd expect The Last Jedi to be everywhere, as it just came out on Home Video. I suspect the sales will be slow, but you can't say that on Day One.
Two days ago, there was a discount on LEGO and I was positive to find a Star Wars set to hit the 30$ required. Impossible to find anything interesting. Lego even rebooted older sets I already have. Half of their last Jedi sets didn’t make it into the movie! I ended up with a space shuttle and an easter bunny. Never thought I would pass on Star Wars.
People have said it before, but I'll say it again: I might not always agree with some of the things you say, damned if you aren't the most level-headed, honest, fair "RUclipsr" I've run across in ages. Maybe YOU are the balance of the Force? :) Seriously though, your videos are a breath of fresh air, and even if you get sick of talking about TLJ (wouldn't blame you), we'll all still be here watching for the next thing.
Agree with you completely... I felt the same way when I watched this vid... they did a good job but I’m getting over wanting to even think about last Jedi any more... well, at least we have some other cool movies still being made out there that put fun ahead of political messaging like Thor Ragnorak and GOTG... this video really just underscores the need to put Star Wars behind us and move on to other movies/entertainment that understand that fun in our entertainment is the most important thing.
They forgot Lukes impression of Clint Eastwood in Grand Torino. Get of my Island Rey. Yes I am still on the crusade against TLJ. But I understanding being just tired of talking about it. Im always a Star Wars fan. Not of this movie. This is a standone farce. Well see if they can save face in the next one. I can see it now Luke is having a bad dream. JarJar wakes Luke up. Meesa thinks Master Luke has been on the island to long. The trailer says it all. It could have added more but it was well done far better than TLJ itself.😲😲😎
Totally agree... actually, as it sinks in a bit, I think you might have been a little too positive. It was rather "blah..." unwilling to take a stand or make a point about anything - in effect, splitting the baby and thereby leaving no one satisfied. This should have been released in January... it might have worked then - now... too much has happened, too much has been said and too much damage already done. Sadly, just as you say, things have now devolved to the point where even the biggest fans are just done talking about Star Wars. Though "fans" of TLJ may think that's a good thing, the truth is, NOTHING is more damaging to a franchise than to have a substantial part of its fan base decide there is nothing worth talking about any longer. I am really curious if the coming silence will be what finally captures Disney's attention (that, and the likely ABYSMAL DVD / Blu Ray sales...). What a sad, sad end to such a fun and inspiring series.
Yeah I was just at Walmart where I live at 9pm and the display was missing maybe three or four copies of the last Jedi the rest were just sitting there
The honest trailer did not seem like their normal rants, more like they are trying to say we are just complaining cause it did not go the way we wanted. Makes me feel they did not watch it or they are being paid to kiss ass. I am sorry but I am sick of how people are trying to say the movie was good. There are so many things wrong with the movie I can never explain them all in a short message. Mauler's critique is one of the best I have seen. ruclips.net/video/vw7pcCj0ORk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/_gRC4L6lNoc/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yFnMMzqjYGw/видео.html A movie doesn't have to go the way I want but a story has to make sense, stay true to the source material, and should at least get people interested in seeing more. TLJ did not do any of that.
It really does suck talking about this freakin movie now. I'm glad they smacked Rian Johnson in the face with having 6 million subs. Clone wars HAH sweet. I just re-watched the entire Rebels series with my wife. She really liked it, and me too! Rebels is so good.
5 months later we're still talking about it like it was week 1 all over RUclips. I can't help but think that's a little strange, even for a Star Wars movie.
Anonymous Commenter dude these new movies are exactly what is dividing us all. Wish it was like the glorious OT times where everyone loved everything :(
Heck, even the prequels where pretty much loved and didn't garner hate till much later. TFA while being weak was much better accepted. This has literally never happened before. If that's not a telltale sign...
Not to compare the two, but didn’t Luke also toss his lightsaber away in RoTJ? I know both situations have different significance, but same physical motion.
The Storyteller IIRC, they were two different motions. In RotJ, Luke casts it sideways, like he's casting away aggression as his path. In TLJ, he tosses it nonchalantly over his shoulder, like he doesn't care. This is the guy who after RotJ started an academy to restart the Jedi Order...
Hey! I agree. I didn't care for this one from screen junkies. Also, you keep talking about Clone Wars a lot, so I decided to check. I gotta say, I don't hate it. Thanks man!
Watching this I was just shocked at the stuff from the movie itself. Can' believe this is real. What were they thinking? Same for TFA by the way even though TLJ was worse.
Screen Junkies went full shill about a year ago. I still like it to a degree, brother, but now I have to remind myself that they have an ego that all the massive channels seem to. It is why CinemaSins started to go downhill.
This movie was exactly what i theorized in my head. Because my assumptions were based on kathleen kennedy lucasfilm and disneys agenda, but i thought nah im stupid to think something that childishly baseless could happen, turns out it did happen that way.
I'm with you. I really don't care about it anymore. The damage was done, I don't feel at all that Disney will try to win back the fan base. I really don't see how J.J Abrams can make Episode 9 any better than The Last Jedi. It's time to move on, So Thank You for another good video. May the force be with us(we certainly need it now).
They just keep repeating that. "You're just mad because It's not like the movie you had written in your head." I had _no_ story written in my head. Don't get me wrong. Sometimes I do. When I went to see Interstellar, I had a story written in my head (or at least an outline) that had jack shit to do with the library at the end of the universe, and ended with Matthew McConaughey coming home to his daughter, Jessica Chastain, and having to learn to get used to the fact that his daughter was his peer now, age-wise. That did not happen. And yeah it was a bit of a let-down. But I had absolutely no notion about where the story of TLJ should go. I was willing to go where it took me. I wasn't happy when they called Maz-the-orange-Yoda and she sent them to go get the magic key to unlock the next level, I was confused when Rey suddenly wanted to go and save Kylo from himself, and I was annoyed when I realized there was gonna be a 4th act. But I didn't go there with a check-list of things I wanted from this story, and I sure as hell didn't go looking for things to dislike about it.
>Episode 4: The Jedi were guardians of peace and safety for 1000 generations
>Episode 8: The legacy of the Jedi is failure.
>20,000 years of peace is failure :/
Nothing short of 50,000 or bust
Obi Wan was raised and indoctrinated on Jedi propaganda. Of course he would only see them in a positive light. Luke saw them for the history that actually happened.
Meirstein the only time the jedi failed was when darth sideous took over the republic other that the jedi have been successful in maintaining in peace. If luke brought up other things the jedi failed in prevoius gemerations then it would make sense.
Meirstein If you take the pre Disney EU, with the exception of, what, 5 times the galaxy was at peace. Those five times (galaxy wide conflicts) spanned an extremely small fraction of those 20,000 years of Jedi history. In the Disney canon, you only have the Clone Wars and the Great Hyperspace War confirmed so far, which means that this argument is even stronger in the Disney canon.
It doesn't matter how well you run the first half of a marathon if you collapse at mile 14. The Jedi became corrupt, weak, too dogmatic and resistant to change, and couldn't see a literal sith lord right under their noses. The order had an increasing amount of defectors, splitters, and traitors as it approached ruin. Their elimination was an inevitability.
My problem here isn't that Disney doesn't understand what it did wrong - because we all know that Corporations are mindless entities who rely on charts and polls in order to create something, based solely on the desire to make money.
What bothers me is that Screen Junkies presented it as THEY don't understand what the problem is either. You can't tell me that the "Original Honest Trailer Voice" guy wasn't portrayed as being the "lesser" of the two voices here. Especially considering that they give him such childish lines like -
"Star Wars can only be talked about in absolutes."
"Rian Johnson ruined my childhood."
What's worse is that the regular Voice Guy literally called the opposition to this movie, "Butthurt Fanboys."
And worse, actually tried to defend everything this movie did wrong as somehow doing "right". Sorry guys, but the Kanto Byte scene does NOT connect to a larger theme; it's literally a waste of our time.
And how exactly does it practice the Jedi Philosophy, by moving away from quote, "Royal Bloodlines," and "Acts of Aggression"? What sense does that even remotely make?
How could anyone find this movie "exhilarating" when 3/4ths of it was literally spent dragging its feet.
Also, I find it ironic that they say Force Awakens was a love letter to the original, where as THIS one ripped off the Plot of Empire, just on a slower, far less spectacular way - with a completely unnecessary shoehorned in subplot to boot.
Ultimately speaking, what pisses me off is that - if this were ANY other film franchise that fucked up THIS badly, Screen Junkies would have TORN into this movie.
Jurassic World at its worst could be called "divisive" and yet they had the nerve to call it an overly expensive SyFy Original Movie.
It reminds me of when the new Ghostbusters movie came out and they responded to it as Neutrally as possible. They're terrified of sparking up any sort of controversy that surrounds these movies. They literally do not have any balls...
The most disappointing this is that lots of so called "fans" don`t understand it either.
2 year old comment, I know, but The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie since Empire. And Jurassic World is actually a very bland, souless movie.
HISHE was way funnier and didn't play it safe when they tear apart TLJ with their video. Honest Trailer didn't want to anger Disney by criticizing TLJ and instead they went after the fans.
I Agree
Do you really think more people hate it than like it? Just because a minority is loud doesn’t mean they’re the majority. They accurately portrayed the divide in the fanbase.
GeneTheMachine HISHE loves the last Jedi tho
Arc 48 Agreed.
I am getting tired of the whole "you just hated the movie because it wasn't the one you had written in your head" argument. No, the movie was a terrible Star Wars movie and that is why I hated it haha
Philip Johnson they are people who didnt have huge expectations and didnt care about the fan theorys but were still dissapointed.
Its a terrible film full stop. Never mind a terrible Star Wars film
Well this is now the counter argument to the Rey is a mary sue argument.
Agreed. I didn't have any theories I was attached to, I didn't even watch any trailers. I went in super excited to see this movie, I really wanted to like it, and I left the theater gutted. Still can't believe it was such a terrible script.
Philip Johnson I didn't watch the movie. But the honest trailer showed a positive and negative aspect of it, mainly to centre to people who like it and didn't. Hishe is a lot better though.
When I saw TLJ, for a moment I honestly thought the part where Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder was a joke - that what I was seeing was not the actual movie, just some stupid preview or something. I was very confused when I realized this was no preview - this was what Disney was giving us for real.
Tharen you gave away all your Star Wars stuff? Even the original trilogy movies? Sorry but I can’t part with those no matter how many offensive new Star Wars movies come out
Towards the end of the honest trailer it seems like all the critism is tongue in cheek and they are making fun of the upset fans more than the movie.
They more/less did the whole video.
Ricky Gerrald thats what i got from ghe video as well makes sense since I think Dan is the only one on their team willing to criticize TLJ
liptongtr if you watch their commentary on the trailer yeah its dan thats criticizing it.
I don't know who Dan is or any of the writers for that channel but it reminded me of the episodes of SNL where they attempted to seem unbiased and "poked fun at Obama or Hillary" it was always just a veiled attempt to mock the critics of Hillary or Obama.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to conflate real life politics with star wars. Just an observation
That was the softest Honest Trailer I have ever seen. Didn't have any edge to it. Made us look like whiny babies. How it should of ended was way more accurate. Course it is screen junkies so they do not have the ability to take it to disney.
A ton of fans on their channel agree it was a 50/50 patronizing fluff piece. Essentially they pulled their punches.
What will Cinema Sins do?
yeah it was a pretty weak honest trailer and belittled valid criticism
not too mention they hardly mentioned rey at all.
i mean c'mon the open mouth joke is so easy and ripe for abuse
Lol because you are a bunch of whiny Babys.
I watched, however it makes my blood boil (just a bit) when they keep critiquing the fans, specially with the "If it does not follow your fan theory it was bad" stuff, maybe because I am really tired of hearing that excuse. But still that trailer was almost a bit insulting, but hey I laugh to some stuff too.
However the real fun is in the comment section... Oh boy that comment section, makes you wonder why they did not close it like they did with the Ghostbuster reboot.
Francisco Rafael Montiel Palencia they closed the comments with the ghostbusters reboot ?.
Mutale Mwananshiku
Yeah. Pretty smart on their part, if TLJ was divisive The Ghostbuster robot is full on civil war.
Thing is I dont care about that stuff. Rey as a nobody is just fine, Jedi can be nobody its not just for Skywalkers. And Snoke just irritates me because of how it was done, feel that if they at least explained him in some way and killed him in less stupid way it would be fine. What I do mind is lazy writing and bad characters. And we got that a lot with this movie.
Indeed, and what really pisses me off and the one thing that is really insulting is... That people actually go out of their way to defend the plot holes and the lazy writing. Hell I was once attack by a horde of Holdo fanboys, let me tell you those kind of people are really bad in the head.
I liked The Last Jedi but i will never defend Holdo or Carrie Poppins
Of course they would mostly make fun of the fans. Gotta get those Disney dollars.
Lets be honest here...there's WAY too much entitlement going on..especially from Star Wars fans.
It was warranted and I didn't like the Last Jedi.
Daniel Walton Paying to see a decent movie is being entitled? Should moviegoers just quietly point out flaws, but graciously thanks Disney for terrible movies?
The thing is...a lot of people didn't think it was terrible. I did..you did...many did not.
The amount of time times I've heard:
"Not my Star Wars"
"Not my Luke Skywalker"
"I never asked for this movie"
Christ..get over yourselves (not specifically you)! It's not YOUR decision.
If people want to make their own Star Wars (or version of Star Wars)..go ahead. Start filming!
How is that being entitled? It literally looks as if people don't like it, and they just stating so. Rian Johnson screwed up and with lore. His version of Luke is a bastardization of a great character.
If you're basing it just off this channel (which isn't a bad one)..obviously it's going to be:
-Anti Last Jedi People: 98%
-Everyone Else: 2%
People generally flock to what they want to hear the most.
and again, that's your opinion.
I'm a big Screen Junkies fan, but this was so safe it was painful to watch. SJ scared of Disney, mayhaps?
+Kaido sky Jesus, that got dark.
Gerhard van Staden either that or afraid to loose their subs liking the movie if they butchered it too much
Or the movie wasn't as bad as you think? and people are just being a little to harsh?
+Root of All Games Look out, incoming....
The HISHE was loved by everyone because ya know what it made fun of? The movie!
HISHE didn't lay a finger on either side of the fandom thus remaining neutral and ultimately more creative and original with their jokes rather than cashing in on the backlash.
I gotta be honest, I was never a fan of Honest Trailers. They always show up several months after everyone has exhausted criticism on a movie, only to make the exact same jokes everyone has already made. I just don't understand the appeal. And this time it looked like they tried to please both sides, which probably will end up angering both.
It's particularly jarring because most of the parts of the video that defend the film do nothing but repeat the same tired bad arguments that defenders of this movie use, like "You only dislike this movie because it's not the one you made in your mind". Fuck no, that's bullshit!
@Super JLK HISHE, to me, is kinda boring. But Honest Trailers sits with me a lot better. They're all better than CinemaSins though.
Kennedy and Johnson should be ashamed of themselves.
I’m done with this, I’m going back to watch more Clone Wars now; see ya. Sums up how we feel about Disney and Star Wars at the moment.
I went back to reading The New Jedi order, lol!
You mean politics wars lol
That Luke was definitely a clone, made from the hand he lost when he originally wielded that blue lightsaber. Real Luke is out there with his green lightsaber.
JJ hid him in the mystery box lol
Luuke? We old EU now?
Luuke was merely a puppet of C'Baoth. The clone in this instance would be indoctrinated to believe he was Luke Skywalker, and remain in such a place as to bait rebels into trying to find him, so they could be tracked and the entire resistance eliminated.
It’s funny how the trailer for the blu Ray doesn’t advertise Rose or Canto Bight haha XD
Because Disney know they f up. They know the criticism is real and they are trying to pretend it did not happened. I mean just look at the novel that stuff is the definition of Crowd Control.
I feel sorry for anyone who hadn’t yet seen the movie, and bought TLJ on the strength of that admittedly awesome, albeit totally misleading trailer. They are in for a HUGE disappointment.
Also notice how it doesn't show General Hux being reduced to comic relief
I found it almost insulting that they use the old music from ROTJ, as if Last Jedi at all represents the classic Star Wars experience. Fucking Prequels were more Star Wars-y than this shit without a doubt.
Also rey barely appears, and her one scene is she talking to luke.
I agree, I am only waiting to hear Disney fired Krazy Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson and then I will celebrate, kinda.
William McColl Same.
I’m tired of the lumping in and misrepresentation of those of us that had legitimate problems with the film as butthurt fanboys. It’s crap. It’s a lazy argument that the populists lean on all too frequently.
Jeremy take a break and cover some video games or sports bruh, save some strength for Solo just in case.
Lando Calrissian...Oh yeah...I bet you all hell is going to break loose when the Solo film is out😅
Me.
Lando Calrissian nein! I am now fuelled by his hatred of all thing Discanon. (Disney Canon)
Hey how are you doin' old pirate?
Peter Gibbons me, but literally have no expectations whatsoever and I expect a very mediocre at best movie, most likely a bad movie
That Honest Trailer seemed to lack some real honesty
I actually unsubscribed to screen junkies after that video. Them painting the fan base the way they did and completely ignoring Rose? Nah, I'm out. Not like I won't be seeing their stuff if it's really good but this just failed to address the ACTUAL criticisms fans had with the movie and painted those that didn't like it as people who just are butthurt the movie wasn't what they wanted. Spoilers, that ain't it. I just want a good Star Wars again. Is that too much to ask?
Aggressively Mediocre It's so ironic since they tore BvS apart and blamed the Filmmakers, But blamed the fans for Last Jedi. This was the softest Honest Trailer I've even seen them made.
I just had your video pop up where you did a first impression on the last Jedi trailer. You were almost in tears as so was I. And here we are...You should do a reaction video to your original reaction video. Fuck a misleading trailer! Loving your channel. Keep it up!
Holy crap. That's a great idea!
Shroomy Carden 👏
I second this.
Wait until the first trailer for IX comes out, they’re gonna try super hard to trick everybody yet again!
Yes please do a reaction video to your trailer reaction video.
I find their lack of honesty disturbing
Great reaction bro, to me, TLJ had potential but didn’t fully leave me satisfied.
James' YouNiverse woah i didn't expect you hear
R2 D2 believe me, I still hate certain parts of TLJ like Porgs, Rose and Canto Bight, but I take it for what it is because there’s still some good parts to this film.
James' YouNiverse I agree with that
James' YouNiverse lol like what
James' YouNiverse the movie is trash up and down. Literally nothing good. Idk what movie you watched
More like "Honest trailer safe version".
I thought the Honest Trailers for this was really dumb. It forgot the million plot holes and tried to say that it is a divided fanbase ... It has a lower rating than the prequel trilogy and no fans are divided about that ...
I just hope CinemaSins does it better...
+Ayrton866 I hope so too may be sin counter will die again
Ayrton866 cinema sins will annihilate this movie
That was some weak shit on their part.
Honest Trailers is simply kow towing to Disney it seems like....almost blaming the fans.
Almost? The fans were the butt of most of their jokes, with the implicit "it's just a joke bruh" at the end of each punch.
True.....it also feels that they are progressive Liberals where everyone who disagrees with their ideology is a sexist, racist, bigot, homophobe. Just judging their work and listening to their voices.
People who have lost credibility from liking The Last Jedi:
-Auralnauts
-Jenny Nicholson
-Chris Stuckmann
-Kevin Smith
-Nostalgia Critic
-I Hate Everything
-GeekyGlassesTV
-Hello Greedo
-Moviebob
-and now, sadly, Honest Trailers
R.I.P. 2018
Ah so liking The Last Jedi automatically means you don't have credibility? Honestly the supposed "Star Wars" fans seem like they don't actually care Star Wars as much as they care about hating people.
Seems like they poked fun at the fans rather than the film. No wonder everyone I know who loved this trash flick posted links to it.
I'm still actually waiting for someone, anyone to actually come out and tell why they love the movie rather than go immediately on the defensive and just attack people disliking it. We can easily sum up giant lists of issues, but somehow everyone "loving" this only has to argument SW-fanbase is toxic, "theories made you hate it" or otherwise talk about anything BUT the movie.
@@hassathunter2464 2 years late, I know.
I love this movie.
I love the themes. More so than any other star wars movie. Learning from failure was woven in so well with all the characters and their actions.
I love the characters. This is the best the sequel characters have every been. They all have interesting arcs. I think this is Luke's best appearance. I think it's his best written appearance. And Mark Hamill's best performance of the character.
I love the directing. This is the best looking movie in the franchise. And unlike most of these movies it actually has really neat shots and angles.
I love the story.
I really enjoyed the whole chase aspect. It makes for a tense setup when the first order chases down the weak and poor resistance. I like Canto Bite. It works well with the theme. And it's a fun time. And the 3rd act where Luke and Kylo face off is just perfect. I love it so much.
This movie wasn't predictable. It doesn't fit into the same formula that do many of these movies do. It tells a story that none of these would. It's not here to worship the past. It's here to deliver a fresh take and, in my opinion, does it so well.
We are all exhausted by this at this point. But.... should we really let up the pressure?
Marco Neves No.
Yep, I am following Dune now.
at first i thought i should just let go of the pressure, but then it came to me, if i dont participate and defend my favorite childhood franchise, issues like EP8 will definitely repeat itself....and as long as we let it slip, paying for another abominable popcorn flick, Disney's will definitely continue to milk it out. Now as a true fan, i cant...i just cant keep watching my favorite heroes, characters, stories and lore being violated in such a way. Besides, KK and rj said so themselves, they dont care about the fans anymore. This has to stop!
p.s. -- (i've watched 1-6; love them all just fine...)
Why is every reaction everywhere ever just people sitting there silently, laughing a few times, sometimes saying something and nodding a few times. No worries jeremy you are not alone.
First, greeting from the UK of Englandstan
The Plastic Paddy honestly bro I'm suprised you speak English being from the stan lol
Mike Greives. Yes, England is also my city
The Plastic Paddy mine too
internet drone Lmao
How's the weather there? Is it cool & cloudy?
I am SO over this crappy movie ....I want to see how bad Solo tanks ... LOL
I never thought I would see the day when I'm not excited by the next SW movie.
Silly Puppy
Weird right?!?
M.G.Villan judging by the trailers, the Solo movie will be dogshit
"Watch some more Cl-..."
CLONE Wars! :D Heck yes!
Pretty much my reaction.
I didn't think it was 'Honest' enough.
I agree, it was kind of lame compared to some of the others. I thought the Screen Rant Last Jedi pitch meeting was pretty spot on and funny.
Matt kenary at least they and HISHE had the balls to truly mock that shit.
I hope CinemaSins does it better like Sceen Rant and HISHE
Totally agree. The moment where he imitates the sea cow looking at Rey is some of the funniest stuff I've ever seen.
Matt kenary now I gotta go back and watch screen rant again...that was fucking priceless
Yes, there are laws to space battle in Star Wars... the laws are actual in that created universe. It's fiction/fantasy, not real-life. A creation needs to have continuity.
The video seems like they want to adress the problems, but play them down in the same sentence to be the nice guys for both sides...
lol except they roasted other movies that were well recieved
Man, you release Vids so fast. You are the man
Though I am tired of The Last Jedi also and have no desire to see it again it is a symptom of hollywood or the entertainment industry as a whole. When you see more and more movies, tv shows or sports events becoming politicized with a leftist/SJW view or having an agenda instead of just being fun entertainment when is enough enough? It's interesting to see the popularity of retro tv channels that show the shows that we grow up with. A great book on the subject of leftist/SJW bias in the entertainment industry is Primetime Propaganda by Ben Shapiro.
This is the best summary of the movie and it's sorted reactions a person could ever ask for! Lol totally true . Really liking your channel bed thanks for being real
it's better than the movie that's for sure
Pretty "meh"-honest trailer.
yep pretty much hit the nail on the head with every issue we have with The Last Jedi...it has been hashed over so much we could anticipate what was going to happen in the honest trailer
The best thing about the video is it pokes fun at both sides, just like How It Should Have Ended did their video.
Please watch Attack of the Clones honest trailer if you haven't. That one was brilliant.
Sure It is funny but there is nothing "brilliant" about Honest Trailers
I can´t imagine Kennedy & Johnson walking on stage on the next SW convention without getting booed...maybe this could be the moment they finally understand
I saw this video when I got off work. So I pulled up the honest trailer before I took a shower. Then I watched this video.
We can fix this movie ourselves. Edits, reshoots anything to fix it. There is still hope!
When you can't even get any joy out of mocking something anymore. Exhausted. Same. I'm in the middle of Season 2 of Clone Wars. This show is incredible!
Read sci fi / fantasy books for 30 years. Had few series disappoint me hard, terry goodkind / sword of truth, wheel of time also. Just seemed like books started 2 go nowhere and pointless filler characters for extending story. What happened with last Jedi , was by far, beyond disappointment. Unless Tolkien had Frodo raped by Sam , after stealing ring, at edge of volcano, can't imagine worse deviation of storyline.
It's like having Mickey piss on you at Disney world at checkout and expecting you 2 book next visit.
Jeremy have you seen Mark Hamil's latest comments? He says they could keep the part of him milking an alien but they cut the part out of him grieving for Han. I'm sure in a couple months Mark is gonna tell us exactly what he thinks of this garbage.
You mean those "Comments" that are a bunch of taken out of context "fan" cuts of him so he says what they want to hear?
No the ones I've seen are straight through, dude you can tell Hamil hates what they did and he knew a lot of people were gonna hate this movie. If you like it, good for you but I represent a large following who hate this movie
RIP Episodes 7, 8, and 9. 9 is just going to be a stillborn.
I think this was a good way to end The Last Jedi topic.
And as a 'salty' star wars fan myself, I kind of appreciate you also laughed at the *pfft salt* joke.
Proves that we're not unreasonable and can laugh at ourselves i guess.
It was funny. I like that they carefully walked the middle of the road. I had hoped that they would just make fun of how bad it is but they need to keep their fans too.
Tlj is bad. Honest trailers is even worse
Can be summed up like many Honest trailers, very meh.
For all SW fans, I have a fan fic planned for the future called Tricerion: A Star Wars Story. It's still a working title at the moment, and I understand fan fiction in general gets a bad rap. I can't rectify that, but here's the link to the first two character bios of the story: Jedi Knight Tillman Klorris and Mandalorian Argus Raish.
m.fanfiction.net/s/12875938/1/Tricerion-A-Star-Wars-Fan-Fic
Honest trailers let me down with how safe this trailer was. You can tell they’re holding back for fear of fan backlash. I would have respected them more if they had stuck to one side of the fence (even if the opposite to the one I’m on) rather than sitting on it.
Just watched The Last Jedi again on Blu-ray, (yes I bought it). It wasn’t as bad the second time around. I guess I’ve accepted all of its shortcomings and know they can’t be changed. This time I just enjoyed seeing Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher on the screen together for one final time. Most of the original trilogy cast just got cameos which is a real bummer. When the movie ended, I had the same impression that I did during my first screening. The ending, though it leaves loose ends, feels like the end of the Sequel Trilogy. There is no desire to see another Star Wars movie. The saga has ended.
Kathleen Kennedy and JJ Abrams have no idea what they are doing. They are actually too focused on characters. George Lucas always made it clear that the OT was about a small group of rebels fighting against the tyranny of an empire to bring democracy back to the galaxy. That was the fabric which he then interwove his characters into. And the prequels were the story of how a galaxy with democracy lost all of it to a dictatorial Emperor. Again, that was the fabric and Lucas interwove the characters into it. Episodes 7, 8, and 9 should have been about a galaxy that reclaimed its democracy and Senate only to fall into a civil war. Force use could have been outlawed in the galaxy following what happened with the Emperor and Vader (and the Jedi's failure to stop them). Leia would support this because she was always for peace and democracy. Luke would obviously be at odds with her and would train Jedi in secret. And then as the two sides of the civil war emerge, it can be revealed that one side is training and using Sith. Then Luke and his Jedi could have revealed themselves for an epic showdown. Unfortunately this new trilogy doesn't have any such fabric or background like this to build the characters through. Everyone left Force Awakens saying stuff like "who is the First Order?", "isn't the Rebellion the Rebels?", "where is the Senate, aren't they in charge again?". JJ Abrams was too rushed to get stormtroopers and a dark figure in a breathing mask back on the screen that he ignored natural story progression. This whole sequel is a failure.
At least the sequels feel like actuall star wars unlike the prequels.
Jeremy, I have noticed something lately and I hope you have too. With Mark Hamill making all of the rounds lately to promote the Blu-ray release date, have you noticed any differences between which places he appears by himself versus the places he has Rian Johnson by his side?
My observations are that he is allowed to appear by himself in circumstances where Disney has some or all editorial control, e.g. The View or IGN. Otherwise, where Disney lacks such control, such as in the CNNMoney interview, Mark Hamill is not allowed to take questions by himself.
Does this appear the same to you?
I agree I think stepping away from SW would so u some good and maybe if u want come back when Solo arrives
It’s time for the conversation around the last Jedi to end...
Awww poor wuttle Kylo 😥
TO be fair, you'd expect The Last Jedi to be everywhere, as it just came out on Home Video. I suspect the sales will be slow, but you can't say that on Day One.
You should do their other video (serious questions) regarding TLJ... that was pretty funny too.
100% the last one I’ll pay to see. Been saying that the minute I walked out of TLJ. Nailed it.
Two days ago, there was a discount on LEGO and I was positive to find a Star Wars set to hit the 30$ required.
Impossible to find anything interesting. Lego even rebooted older sets I already have.
Half of their last Jedi sets didn’t make it into the movie!
I ended up with a space shuttle and an easter bunny. Never thought I would pass on Star Wars.
I'm really waiting for the cinemasins version!
It was pretty funny, but the How it should have ended was the definitive mic drop.
People have said it before, but I'll say it again: I might not always agree with some of the things you say, damned if you aren't the most level-headed, honest, fair "RUclipsr" I've run across in ages. Maybe YOU are the balance of the Force? :) Seriously though, your videos are a breath of fresh air, and even if you get sick of talking about TLJ (wouldn't blame you), we'll all still be here watching for the next thing.
yes getting tired of it is the best way to describe it.
Agree with you completely... I felt the same way when I watched this vid... they did a good job but I’m getting over wanting to even think about last Jedi any more... well, at least we have some other cool movies still being made out there that put fun ahead of political messaging like Thor Ragnorak and GOTG... this video really just underscores the need to put Star Wars behind us and move on to other movies/entertainment that understand that fun in our entertainment is the most important thing.
They forgot Lukes impression of Clint Eastwood in Grand Torino. Get of my Island Rey. Yes I am still on the crusade against TLJ. But I understanding being just tired of talking about it. Im always a Star Wars fan. Not of this movie. This is a standone farce. Well see if they can save face in the next one. I can see it now Luke is having a bad dream. JarJar wakes Luke up. Meesa thinks Master Luke has been on the island to long. The trailer says it all. It could have added more but it was well done far better than TLJ itself.😲😲😎
Totally agree... actually, as it sinks in a bit, I think you might have been a little too positive. It was rather "blah..." unwilling to take a stand or make a point about anything - in effect, splitting the baby and thereby leaving no one satisfied. This should have been released in January... it might have worked then - now... too much has happened, too much has been said and too much damage already done.
Sadly, just as you say, things have now devolved to the point where even the biggest fans are just done talking about Star Wars. Though "fans" of TLJ may think that's a good thing, the truth is, NOTHING is more damaging to a franchise than to have a substantial part of its fan base decide there is nothing worth talking about any longer.
I am really curious if the coming silence will be what finally captures Disney's attention (that, and the likely ABYSMAL DVD / Blu Ray sales...). What a sad, sad end to such a fun and inspiring series.
Yeah I was just at Walmart where I live at 9pm and the display was missing maybe three or four copies of the last Jedi the rest were just sitting there
Clone Wars is an excellent choice good sir. Let us know what you think of the Clone Wars film when you get to it.
The honest trailer did not seem like their normal rants, more like they are trying to say we are just complaining cause it did not go the way we wanted. Makes me feel they did not watch it or they are being paid to kiss ass.
I am sorry but I am sick of how people are trying to say the movie was good. There are so many things wrong with the movie I can never explain them all in a short message. Mauler's critique is one of the best I have seen.
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A movie doesn't have to go the way I want but a story has to make sense, stay true to the source material, and should at least get people interested in seeing more. TLJ did not do any of that.
Anyone know when we'll find out TLJ's DVD/Bluray sells?
It really does suck talking about this freakin movie now. I'm glad they smacked Rian Johnson in the face with having 6 million subs. Clone wars HAH sweet. I just re-watched the entire Rebels series with my wife. She really liked it, and me too! Rebels is so good.
5 months later we're still talking about it like it was week 1 all over RUclips. I can't help but think that's a little strange, even for a Star Wars movie.
Thank you for watching so I wouldn't have to! It seemed as if it was making cheap jabs at the SW fandom. *shrugs*
I thought it was pretty good. Divided though, much like the fan base rn. If that's not a telltale sign, Idk what is.
obviously you haven't watched starwars from a young age, #newbie
Anonymous Commenter dude these new movies are exactly what is dividing us all. Wish it was like the glorious OT times where everyone loved everything :(
Heck, even the prequels where pretty much loved and didn't garner hate till much later. TFA while being weak was much better accepted.
This has literally never happened before. If that's not a telltale sign...
"There are no rules to space battles." Because fuck physics apparently.
Anyone else find it curious that they changed the cover art on the DVD release?
Not to compare the two, but didn’t Luke also toss his lightsaber away in RoTJ? I know both situations have different significance, but same physical motion.
The Storyteller IIRC, they were two different motions. In RotJ, Luke casts it sideways, like he's casting away aggression as his path. In TLJ, he tosses it nonchalantly over his shoulder, like he doesn't care. This is the guy who after RotJ started an academy to restart the Jedi Order...
Hey! I agree. I didn't care for this one from screen junkies. Also, you keep talking about Clone Wars a lot, so I decided to check. I gotta say, I don't hate it. Thanks man!
Watching this I was just shocked at the stuff from the movie itself. Can' believe this is real. What were they thinking? Same for TFA by the way even though TLJ was worse.
Can we all go watch Dune now? I think the two part Dune movie will be interesting.
Next... is Solo... can't wait wait to be entertained about that dumbster fire.
If you watch the commentary you may have mixed options on Screen Junkies
Spencer Gilbert is a snarky prick who mocks the fans. Dan Murrell is still great.
Screen Junkies went full shill about a year ago. I still like it to a degree, brother, but now I have to remind myself that they have an ego that all the massive channels seem to. It is why CinemaSins started to go downhill.
This movie was exactly what i theorized in my head. Because my assumptions were based on kathleen kennedy lucasfilm and disneys agenda, but i thought nah im stupid to think something that childishly baseless could happen, turns out it did happen that way.
I'm with you. I really don't care about it anymore. The damage was done, I don't feel at all that Disney will try to win back the fan base. I really don't see how J.J Abrams can make Episode 9 any better than The Last Jedi. It's time to move on, So Thank You for another good video. May the force be with us(we certainly need it now).
They just keep repeating that. "You're just mad because It's not like the movie you had written in your head." I had _no_ story written in my head.
Don't get me wrong. Sometimes I do. When I went to see Interstellar, I had a story written in my head (or at least an outline) that had jack shit to do with the library at the end of the universe, and ended with Matthew McConaughey coming home to his daughter, Jessica Chastain, and having to learn to get used to the fact that his daughter was his peer now, age-wise. That did not happen. And yeah it was a bit of a let-down.
But I had absolutely no notion about where the story of TLJ should go. I was willing to go where it took me. I wasn't happy when they called Maz-the-orange-Yoda and she sent them to go get the magic key to unlock the next level, I was confused when Rey suddenly wanted to go and save Kylo from himself, and I was annoyed when I realized there was gonna be a 4th act. But I didn't go there with a check-list of things I wanted from this story, and I sure as hell didn't go looking for things to dislike about it.
when a Pain goes truly deep
you just cannot laugh about it
*"Hux to be you"*
I sense some disney influence in this honest trailer.
A novel way to reiterate your heartbreak, funny/sad but true...