It's interesting how these companies don't think about Breast cancer survivors who may have had to have mastectomies in order to save their lives. As one of those women, I find these adverts very offensive
I attended a Kelly Jay Keen rally last year. The trans activists protesting our presence were easily 35% young women. Young women are oblivious to issues like breast cancer and even the real world issues lesbians confront outside the university. campus
I'd like to comment on the ads with obese women. Ten years ago, I was obese. I have had an insatiable hunger since I was a kid and it is actually painful. But I realized that my size was destroying my health. As painful as it was, at the age of 73, I lost 150 pounds. Then, a few years later, in January before COVID was understood, I was hospitalized with "pneumonia." It was COVID. I'm quite sure that, had I not lost the weight, I would not have survived. As it is, I am now dependent on supplementary oxygen, permanently. But I'm alive. I'm horrified when I see these obese people in ads. Thank you for explaining it.
From one cat picture avatar person to another, well done! I'm sorry about the oxygen but really impressed you lost so much weight. It's really hard to do.
On the topic of mastectomy scars...I'm a lifelong female ice hockey player. I dabbled in a local "queer" hockey group (which I quickly left after giving some strong opinions on some awful behaviour I witnessed). I remember being in the change room with about 7-10 young (younger than 30) trans identified people who'd had mastectomies. I cannot tell you how shocked I was at how the apparently completed and healed procedures looked. Those poor people all had been totally botched. I don't know of that was just because of lack of self post surgery care or if that's just the typical results. I'm assuming the latter at this point. The image you ladies put up by Burberry look well done by comparison. It really drives home how experimental all of this really is. I began having some doubts a short while ago after being a pretty staunch advocate for years. But now I've seen enough that I've found completely indefensible at this point. I'm not confident that people know what they're getting themselves into anymore.
So now we need to be taken off our regimens, denied medicine, and thrown into institutions all because of what you think because you vote. Thank you for your service!
@@Tsiskoko certainly! It was the only team I've ever quit in my life. I've played for dozens of teams since 1997. They had signed up as a team for a run of the mill co-ed ball hockey league. Which, if ya know ball hockey...it's a pretty scrappy sport because it's very "in your face" personal kinda thing. I warned them of this. I had no idea of how little experience these "organizers" had. I never signed up for the "queer" hockey but was contacted by an "organizer" and asked to play for them because goaltenders are hard to come by. Anyway, to keep it brief (note: this is long but not the 6 page word document I wrote about this in detail, a month ago) I've seen some scrappy teams, usually they can play. Usually teams that are rough are competitive. This was not that. These kids couldn't hold their sticks correctly. They didn't know the positions. They went out and when they realized they were outmatched by "cis" people in every way, they ended up completely out of control. Second game in, a brawl was started by the transman identified organizer. He called the wrong girl fat right infront of me and she snapped at him and attacked him. What then ensued was 3 girls on my team jumping on her which, in hockey is HIGHLY inappropriate. You fight your own battles and you fight one on one. That's the unspoken rule. The "queer" team then complained on and on in the group chat about how the league was discriminatory and unfair for suspending the kid who started the fight with his idiot mouth. While simultaneously debating whether or not to tell the league we were "queer" so they'd...uhhh...give us a free pass I guess. I finally snapped and told them not to bother because what was said, was said right infront of me and can confirm we started the nonsense. I told them to cut it out, not worry about it and play with dignity going forward. That did not happen. The organizer kid quit immediately and the other who was involved wasn't present for most of the season. I was in a position of being the most experienced member of the team and tried my absolute best to rein it in and settle them down. Between them stalking the social media of opponents and mocking their photos in chat, leaving fake reviews on their workplaces naming individuals in the reviews, the incessant unnecessary rough play, and mocking, SPECIFICALLY FEMALE opponents they'd hurt with their sticks in the chat. Because of course they would not go at the men, I ended up seeing it for the lost cause it was. I could not calm them down because they didn't to calm down and play, they wanted to go hurt "the cishets". So I quit. And I told my story with zero exaggerations on my social media at which point I ironically got accused, unsurprisingly of bullying. Utter malarkey So I guess you could say this peaked me.
@@Captainmrahgenuine question, do you think being on testosterone both stunted these females emotionally and made them more aggressive/impulsive? Or do you think their victim mindset and bullying tactics were just a psychological coping strategy for deep-seated insecurities, or what?
A darker side to the baffling razor ad is the subliminal/subtle/insider nod to self harm. Hence the focus on the "sharpness" and the mastectomy scars which often accompany other self inflicted scars.
As a lesbian I appreciated the discussion of body mod. Tattoos, piercings, and angry rejection of natural beauty have long been the norm among lesbians. Now testosterone (steroids) and mastectomies have been added to the mix, as trans identity is more prevalent among lesbians than other populations. If we want to understand why trans has caught on broadly, it could be helpful to study why lesbians for 25+ years have been into body mod. I say this as a 39 yo lesbian who always resented the pressure to self-deface. What drives young lesbians (and older ones!) to treat themselves this way? If we figure that out, maybe we can help everyone who's now caught up in this mania.
My son had z freak accident when he was 14, and he recieved a deep ragged cut on his chest he needed 30 stitches and his emergency scar looked like the one in the barberry advert. This advert is about the scar not the op. Making the ragged scar the fashion accessory. A neat scar should almost disappear.
Yeah I think everything centers around men from different angles. Like performative femininity is often done to appeal to men, but completely rejecting any sort of femininity in fear of being seen as vulnerable or weak and submissive, isn't that the same thing? If women weren't getting controlled by men, then this shouldn't cause such a dismissive reaction. I always had the need to behave and dress in a stereotypically masculine manner because I believed that being feminine means getting fetishized and assaulted, disregarded, not considered enough, not listened to,.. I hated the feeling of being powerless, and it's also worth noting that it sparked aggression in me, irritated by everything so easily, zero confidence and strong feeling of doubt, unworthiness. I seemed to never just be masculine enough to really feel safe (led to me putting on a male identity for about 3 years).. One could say that women really pushing themselves hard to be extremely masculine is progressive, but is it really? It's still men who sort of make them do it, in hopes of getting autonomy over their bodies, but the freedom of expression is still locked behind bars. They still fear to be themselves, it's sad, and me included, wonder if that'll ever change.
Very very pleased to say that Jennifer now has a new customer and supporter. I work in advertising in Australia and thankfully this hasn't seemed to reach our quaint little island juuuust yet. Touch wood.
@@trippinggauntlet4520 Oh I absolutely adore Sal! I want Giggle to succeed and for her to win this case. It's going to be incredibly important in setting a legal precedent. And as a gay man, I well and truly understand the importance of same-sex spaces.
@@MixedTake Great to hear! Yes, incredibly important, not just for SSspaces, but for same sex attracted folk also. If binary sex doesn't exist, then all protections specifically for gays or lesbians disappear as well.
I love that she's an atheist. I'm also atheist and see how this trans stuff is really turning into a religion and one reason why I'm atheist was learning to leave dogma behind. Yet here's this gender ideology. With all this religious language. I want to know where I can support her business. ♥️
I know she has a PHD in woke nonsense, and so probably has no self awareness and no sense of humour, but part of me finds it difficult to believe that she isn't some kind of Aussie comedy genius. Her performance had such a strong "Kath and Kim" vibe. (Kath and Kim was a brilliant Aussie comedy show about 30 years ago). Australian comedy has always prominently featured people with no self awareness making fools of themselves because they have no self awareness.
Jennifer Sey accidentally came up with a great new term, but she didn't realize it. When talking about the Burberry ad, she said, "sig-norant". Seems like the perfect word to sum up the attitude where people virtue signal but are ignorant about what they're really doing. I'm planning to use it in the future 😁
I grew up in the 90s and I remember ads back then used friendship and gathering as a thematic tool to sell their products. You don't see that as much now, and I have to wonder if that's partially due to the fact that gathering and friend groups are not as relatable to young people :(
What are you talking about? All young people do is hang out (and text) in huge groups. If anything, they don't have best friends anymore, and much of their sexual socialization is delayed because they'd rather spend time with their parents than with their friends.
I am late genx/early millenial. It took me YEARS to get over the shaving/hair guilt of my teens, what I "should" do to be feminine. Happily hairy in my 40s.
Great episode! Jennifer is so sharp and inspiring! I just bought some items from XX-XY athletics- after watching this Olympic Games, I’ve been dying to do something to support women’s sports! :’( The gender critical activist Exulansic has great terminology for describing the schism within the trans movement that Jennifer was asking about. She describes on the one side, what she calls the Our Lady of Perpetual Hormone Replacement Therapy “church,” which are made up of people who sometimes call themselves “transmedalists.” They are people who tend to identify as “true transsexuals,” and they believe that gender dysphoria is an incurable medical condition that reflects a biological basis for them being transgender (like a cross-sex brain) and requires them to undergo medical treatment. They tend to skew older, a little more male, and mostly- almost exclusively- homosexual. Then on the other side, she terms the Nonbinitarian “church”- who practice queer theory and tend to skew female, young and heterosexual. They’re into “queering the gender binary.” Unsurprisingly, since each group challenges the others’ trans identities in different ways, both groups have slurs for each other. The transmeds call the nonbinaries and queer theorists “transtrenders,” implying that they are adopting a trans identity as a trend or even contagion and aren’t truly transgender. The nonbinaries and queer theories call themselves tucutes and call the transmeds “truescum,” because they view them as gatekeeping trans identity and upholding the gender binary. Interestingly, when you guys were talking about the reverence or sanctity of the body that one might find in religion, I couldn’t help but notice that the unusual haircut in the Burberry advertisement looks almost like a tonsure worn by a monk. And while I agree it’s true that many religions focus on the sanctity of the body as a creation of God, many people also notice the parallel between religiously inspired self-harm (examples of priests or nuns starving themselves, scourging their body as penance, etc) and transgender body mod. Both are gnostic in essence, urging people to move away from the mortal body, and more towards the spirit (or, the gender identity), and sometimes demonizing the body in the process. Some describe gender transition as a quasi-religious act that punishes the evil, sinful body through gruesome procedures as a means of both proving the strength of one’s faith, and cleansing oneself of the sins of “cisgender privilege” or else whatever one hated about oneself before the transition/transformation. You could argue transgenderism/queer theory is a modern form of gnostic religion.
Went out to a hip dive bar in Bushwick the other night, a rare date night while the kid was in sleep away camp. Across the board the aesthetic is Beyond the Thunderdome, post apocalyptic freak show. Tattoos and face piercings, latex, trans, straight guys dressed ironically ugly, it was just so insane to seen. Now that I'm almost 50 and was edgy and cool in the 90s, I just can't help but think how badly some of these irreversable body modifications are going to age. The only person dressed normally with a fit body was the cute twink waiter at the restaurant.
It feels more and more like the young girls getting the mastectomies are exhibitionist, the I got top surgery videos are so bizarre and the medioplasty videos ... Its like somekind of weird porn in a way .. And what are they going to do to top this weirdness 😔 they are desperate for attention....
I think it goes beyond transness. It's as if breasts are the physical signs of being a woman, and many women would rather be men, so they just get rid of what they don't "need." In a certain sense, it feels like a great deal of feminism is obsessed with going against women's bodies, which menstruate and lactate and hot flash and get pregnant and stay pregnant.
@LeishaCamden - I don't think that's correct. I know it sounds right but given the logic of that statement, the following things CANNOT BE NORMAL because they had to be normalised: women going to work, having the vote, using contraception, not being raped by their husbands (legally), wearing trousers and not being called a dyke, being able to get a no fault divorce, getting custody of their kids, being considered as suitable to run for public office, being allowed to get a degree, be a doctor (or any number of other professions barred to women) need I go on? All of these things were considered abnormal a century ago, and had to be normalised by exposure. Oh, and in the UK, the rape in marriage law only dates to the 1980's and yet I suspect no one would consider it abnormal now, that a woman can refuse sex with her husband.
@@John-tr5hn Speak for yourself. Interracial relationships never had to be normalized in my country. In New Zealand Maori and Pakeha have been marrying each other ever since the settler-colonists arrived in 1840.
well duh. the question isn’t if it’s normal, but if abnormal automatically equals bad or if normal automatically equals good. slavery was globally normal once. but slavery is bad. so we made it abnormal.
@@lilith3953 - what are you talking about - just because in one tiny portion of this globe interracial marriage was NOT seen as abnormal doesn't negate all the suffering caused by laws against it in the rest of the world - does it?
I’m am a mom who lost a daughter to this a two years after we’ve moved to America from England. We are liberal, but rational. This podcast I mostly agree with, just is quite politicized unfortunately. My daughter was claiming that I’ve switched to conservative views and there was no way to convince her, I’m caring about her wellbeing 😔 not about who supports this trend. I wish there was WHO and doctors environment sending this messages and I wish they speak one voice on this tragic in consequences on the cross hormones and sex change surgeries on kids and young adults. Also sick about the psychology field who help to destroy my and many families taking totally wrong approach on the lost young people going through the puberty and dealing with trauma. On the subject of this elements in advertising- is the same wrong as social media promoting the trend.
it makes me so mad that women can't show their nipples, but as soon as they get a double mastectomy and "identify" as a man the nipples are totally fine to show! I have NEVER seen advertising showing the bare chest of women who had to have a mastectomy due to breat cancer.
WOW totally blown away by her analyses of these ads! they all just struck me as "uncanny" though i couldnt explain why, and then she completely elucidated and articulated exactly what i was feeling and the causes of feeling that way 🤯...
The long term goal of progressivism is to make current society unlivable and that way force creation of a new one, which will then be welcomed as an improvement. It is a change of tactics after forcing societal change through revolution was repeatedly shown to be unpractical, because of extreme push-back from the population who don't like the arbitrarily set new order.
Your theory is paranoid and makes absolutely no sense in the history of revolutions, much less the reality of the world. Revolutions require a significant amount of organizing; they require a whole lot of discipline and in the U.S. would require millions of people acting in concerted effort (a minimum percentage of the population is necessary for revolution and always has been). Your idea of revolution is entirely online and not healthy. It’s also nowhere to be seen in the real world-and no, campus protests do not count in the least. Read up on revolutions and you may save yourself some brain cells and senseless anxiety.
Yes lets go back to the early 1900's when corporations ruled and everyone was happy with children working in the mines, 7 day workweek, no safery rules, no social security/medicare (in US), Women were property, etc etc, until those awful progressives ruined everything!
Neo Marxist philosopher Herbert Marcusé promotes the dissolution of society by subverting values in his 1965 book "One Dimensional Man". Heprescribes using the children of the post war affluent, and the resentment of the "ghetto" classes to achieve his glorious awakening.
The Burberry ad cracked me up. It is quite funny how these crazy expensive, high priced brands use models that look anything but. It's like a fashion shoot done out of someone's basement, in the bad side of town.
great discussion. just one complaint. you really need to look deeper into the science on cholesterol. sorry, it's not the cause of heart disease and not even a good indicator. geez, even Time magazine finally acknowledged that 10 - 15 years ago. the real risk with obesity is the inflammation that comes with the visceral fat, half the mass in a fat belly is the white blood cells attacking the misplaced fat--brought to you by seed oils (so-called vegetable oils), which nobody should eat. chronically elevated blood sugar + inflammation = heart disease. so no being fat is NOT healthy.
Regarding whether the two contradictory parts of genderism are at war... the stereotype-reliant faction are AGPs, who are strategic and play the long game. They don't see the emotive bluehairs as a threat because nobody takes them seriously.
Not only do they not see them as a threat, the whole concept of “trans kids” and “born in the wrong body” helps justify cross-dressing middle aged men “finally getting to be their true authentic selves”
I remember many years ago a TV show about body modification. One of the people highlighted was a guy who had a sack of something along the lines of silly putty (something like a breast implant) inserted into his forehead so he could mold the shape of his forehead on a whim.
The next interview could very fittingly be with james lindsay, to discuss where this astroturfed ESG / SDG cultural revolution is really coming from. You're endlessly circling the periphery, and it's agonizing waiting for you to catch up to see the elephant in the room.
@@taraiarusso9625ESG = environmental social governance, a concept driven by private equity firms and hedge funds ike BlackRock, who are majority shareholders in the nearly all Fortune 500 companies. They create frameworks that companies must adhere to around things like cutting carbon emissions, promoting LGBTQIA+ equality, and supporting social justice causes. SDG = sustainable development goals, part of a UN programme called Agenda 2030 which was devised years ago and which all signatory countries have vowed to implement. It means working towards replacing conventional energy sources with renewables, reducing consumption, and employing social engineering to create societies where people have fewer children and mass migration is used instead to keep the population growing. While on paper ESG and SDG sound reasonable and progressive, they are actually radical and authoritarian, and are contributing to economic decline and the unravelling of traditional values.
Stella, I had noticed that, too. A woman can show her breast as long as her nipple is covered. She can show her nipples if her breasts are removed. Very disturbing.
The ads make all people look androgynous, could it be to normalize the onslaught of AI robots into our everyday life in the near future so we don’t look different to them
About the body’s portrayed in ads - I agree. I wish we could hire models based on their mental and physical health tbh. Why are we showcasing “models” that will die young because of their additions, mental illnesses etc. why are we telling young girls this what you should strive for? I say this as someone diagnosed with “severe and enduring anorexia”. It does not help to be gaslit by who claim to eat and be healthy with completely emaciated bodies. Same goes for obesity.
Isn't the advertising trend a result of a larger agenda of social engineering? This seems clear to me. Is the interviewi aware of this deeper agenda? I don't think this is an organically manifested phenomenon. Much if not all advertising through the years has driven social trends around gender roles and sexuality. I grew up in the 60's and 70's. The agendas have always been pushed. As a child and teenager I was very influenced. This is money driven to some degree, but that is not the root. Social engineering. And yes, it is sad. I'm a lesbian and have been living with various types of trans ideologies, surgeries etc for many years ( certainly since the 90's for gay women transitioning to trans guys)
THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY. This is ideologically driven. Various industries and institutions have been captured by the woke, and nudged into woke SJW garbage. This is LOSING money for most entities, very few are profiting and those that are, are doing so incidentally. Stop the “follow the money” Alex Jones analysis. It doesn’t work with the far left.
I'm a qualified Counsellor and wrote the last two National NHS Gender treatment policy for adults. I initially got involved in Treatment for children, getting the clinic in Leeds for their treatment. But have always been against hormonal treatment for children. I am a Trans Woman.
Great interview, thank you! Jennifer is very brave, and I would like to read her book. I wonder if you could perhaps cover the same or similar topic with a guest such as Gail Dines' viewpoint? Because I see a huge porn influence in this, as well as a kind of pedophilia/porn influence. Not sure if others see this, but it's got to be there. And we know what big multinational business porn is and how influential it is in advertising. Anyway, just a thought. But I think we're all in deep trouble if these trends continue and no one pushes back strongly.
Ladies, I've got to push back on the cholesterol and carnivore comment. You don't understand what you're talking about. Love what you do and please keep talking about the important topic of the horrible trans epidemic.
I think it was more of a general point about how right and left are marketed to in different ways? Carnivore diets are quite extreme regardless of health implications. I've got type 2 diabetes so I've looked into and adopted bits of high protein diets and found it useful but like any diet you look into it before you do it. Anyway.
So...right after i finished watching this video, RUclips played an ad by a german shoe company (tamaris) which featured queer People and a slogan along the lines of "you are perfect the way you are" (The slogan seemingly refering to the idea of the "true authentic self" or queer identity). While the product they are selling was not entirely absent in the clip, it seemd very clear to me, that the political and the presumed morally right messaging was at the forefront of the people who created the ad. It is by far not the first woke ad I've seen, so I was quite intrigued by your choice of topic for this video. I am baffled and quite horrified by all of the Posters you discussed. We are living in such strange times.
"Perfect the way you are", I fund that so bizarre, surely they were "perfect the way they were" before they messed about with their bodies? I have to say I have forever found it sad and silly that surgical modification of the body is seen as a good idea, I've always disliked tatios and piercings, cannot understand why you would willingly damage important organs in your body, the skin is a super important part of our bodies we need to care for to keep ourselves healthy, couldn't understand the obsession with tanning which seemed to start in the late 70s/early 80s, I remember a neighbour saying to me as a kid when we were going to visit relatives in Malta "oh that's great you'll come back as brown as a Berry" and me thinking yuck what would I want to do that - I was very fair red head, really got to be careful of my sun exposure... Yeah I dunno, maybe it was cos I had red hair and was bullied for it, I just think it's important ppl learn to love and care for their natural bodies. It's sad that that approach never seems to popular, of course it's not going to make money for any sector except clical psychologists and counsellors although it would likely result in massive cost savings to NHS, better mental health and ppl having more money to spend on decent nutrition and healthy hobbies rather than on crappie fashion and styling products...
She's not only talking about the effectiveness of the ads; she's talking about how they make people feel. Many people would buy those pillows if they weren't associated with Lindell and Trump. And the ads themselves just look like trashy infomercials from the '90s. It's similar to how Target and Walmart are basically identical at this point, but most liberals would never get caught dead in a Walmart while they have no problem buying the same cheap imported crap made by the same exploited workers at Target. Meanwhile, many conservatives won't shop at Target because of their pro-LGBT clothing and political bent.
The pillow ads might not have expensive production, but they run CONSTANTLY on Fox News and Newsmax. My dad watches those and whenever I’m over, I see those commercials non stop. I just don’t watch much tv, mostly internet.
If you would like to hear why "cholesterol" is much less important than over-all metabolic health, see Dr. Malcom Kendrick, Dr. Paul Mason or Dr. Tro Kalajian.
I'd fell like saying "well, duh." -- "Normalization" is an extension of "transgression;" the method through which to act. It maximally extorts many reasons, not just "malicious instigators" whom revel in and care only to cause issue and needless dysfunction.
Corporate America caught virtue envy. But the virtues they embraced were actually sins. Pity corporate America had not read Socrates; otherwise they may have figured that they weren't really batting on the side of virtue but against it. There's a lesson for all of us here: virtues aren't simple slogans we can adopt. Lasting, deep, virtues are lessons life teaches us, which we must struggle to learn.
Thank you for your honesty conversation. I appreciate it. I have to say it. I think if you strip down all these issues, the common denominator is denial of God. The thinking "I am god." "I am my own god." "I decide what is right and what is wrong." I believe, its what led us to this point again in history. I'm seeing that conclusion in every problem nowadays. I appreciate you using your voice to speak truths.
@@kimberlycornelius7 For Buddhists who are not monks or nuns, there are five precepts to follow. These are intertwined in Vietnamese culture to such an extend that people practice them or most of them without thinking about Buddhism. For monks and nuns, they have to follow more rules. Generally, the idea is minimal attachment or non attachment to one's desires (especially ones that can harm people's progress for enlightenment). It is interesting you do not know non Christian religions, and yet you claim not worshiping your god is the cause of gender ideology. That sounds like Christian nationalism 🤔
The ads encouraging drug use with your friends isn't necessarily about reducing stigma against drug use. It is because it is more dangerous to use alone if you take a drug and overdose. No one is around to revive you with nalaxone.
You talked about how the young generation will do the exact opposite of the parent generation. So if parents shaved off all of their hair the young will have lots of hair everywhere. If the parents strived to be so skinny they’d end up looking like skeletons the young would go for “body positivity” a.k.a. unhealthy obesity. For many years women went for large breasts and had implants. Some even kept going back for larger and larger bags of silicone. The pendulum swings back and forth from one generation to the next. So I was thinking maybe the mastectomy trend of today is - at least in part - a push back on the big fake breasts.
About the weight issue. I'm ä a horse person, and I've been scrutinized for saying that morbidly obesed persons shouldn't ride horses because its fatfobic to say that. I dont care, the truth is, it is harmful for the horse, there is sientific research on it. You can be as heavy as you want but your not climbing on top of my horses.
That is what critical theories are for. To completely dismantle the current system We have to outlaw "ladies and gentlemen " and " mom and dad " and become "chest feeders" to be "inclusive". Academia has been destroyed and these new graduates only know identity politics and queer theory. You are either oppressed or the oppressor. It's so far gone I feel the quality of actual clinical care has been diminished. Now therapy referrals in our group shop for "cis/het provider" or someone that has to align with their fragile clients politics. It's beyond help. Who decides that neo Marxist ideology has to take over every institution.
That was really interesting, talking about how gender ideolgy is becoming normalised in culture is really important and it is worrying. Gender Dysphoria is still in the DSM, we don't usually celebrate or try to glamourise mental illness let alone the removal of healthy body parts. You hopefully (although nothing much would surprise me now) see Gillette using self harm scars to appeal to a cohort of mentally ill people who can gain some sort of relief using their product to hurt themselves. I hope the Advertising Standards in the UK wouldn't allow that. I'd hope they wouldn't allow any of the post surgery scarring either I guess getting Gender Dysphoria out of the DSM and into a purely cosmetic procedure to "correct" bodies is what some activists would like. From my limited knowledge of the American healthcare system that would also take away insurance funded care. Actually it would probably stop a lot of surgeries, they really aren't cheap! The "woke" advertising is quite upsetting. The whole massive increase in girls with rapid onset gender dysphoria is scary and needs to be studied and treated with empathy and compassion. To use it to advertise coffee and fashion brands is distasteful and disrespectful to the people going through it. It just really doesn't make me want to buy a latte. This is becoming bizarre. I'm really started to worry about young girls now. I always wondered what the ramifications of unlimited, uncensored pornography would be. I think porn has caused a massive increace in the sexualisation of society. This plays a part in why girls might be terrified of being seen as purely as sexual objects. People will correctly say there has always been porn but the difference now is in quantity and strength. I don't like porn much (I see everyone being exploited, the male and female actors and the viewer) I haven't seen any in 25 years, it was always off-puttingingly aggressive and so far away from reality I found it offensive and a bit ridiculous. I'm of the last of the generation who had sex before seeing hardcore porn. In the UK we had girly mags and they weren't that bad, not exactly promoting female emancipation but compared to the stuff which became available online was very tame. It still had a negative effect on boys impressions of women. What young guys are watching now is often aggressive, slapping, verbally abusive and apparently that's normal. That worries me. You hear varied stats but it seems to be a huge increase of girls seeking treatment, there are many reasons for that but I don't think companies using images of women with "top surgery" scarring is appropriate. Surely removal of healthy body parts should be a treatment for people suffering from the most extreme dysmorphia. Such a broad podcast! So I'll stick my opinion on men in women's sport as well! Male athletes should absolutely stick up for women's sport. A lot of the time they are higher profile. It would be great to have a big star just be honest. It's not transphobia to be against trans women competing in womens sport, especially combat sports. I really hope it doesn't happen but in a sport like MMA a women could be killed, thats not an empty controversial statement. If you've been through male puberty you will be stronger and in a combat sport where serious injury is a risk regardless it's pure insanity to let that happen. I know that rugby union as a a sport has recommended that trans women pose a danger and basically dont want law suits because a women is paralysed after being tackled by somebody. Thanks your podcast is one of the best out there addressing this issue.
The carnivore diet is not crazy. It is a nutritionally-complete option for those who want to choose ketogenic diet in order to improve their mental health (see Georgia Ede and Chris Palmer), metabolic health (see Eric Westman, Anthony Chaffee, Shawn Baker and Virta Health) and auto-immune disorders (see Mikhaila Peterson and Jordan Peterson).
I've noticed a lot of similarities between vegan/plant-based activism and trans activism. Between the cultish behavior, the corrupt scientific evidence, the gaslighting and the support from the WEF, it can be hard to tell the difference.
@@John-tr5hn I'm not arguing that people can't eat plants but your point is backwards. Infants fed vegan and vegetarian diets can get rickets from malnutrition. 🤷♂️
Jordan Peterson ended up in the hospital because he was only eating meat. And the ketogenic diet is incredibly dangerous and only recommend for people with very specific constitutions. Your brain literally runs on glucose, you need carbs.
Making a profit to run a company, provide employment, feed and house a family = good. Greed = bad I'm surprised so many people don't understand that vital difference. Greed is always bad. I love how those on the right wing of politics squeal when they perceive they no longer have the upper hand. When things were the other way around it was "S*ck it up, sunshine". I come from a British family that worked for the rights of the working man and woman who were at the mercy of unprincipled business owners. Never mind, Republicans. The pendulum of human affairs will swing back your way in time.
I think that advertising has gotten so much of the blame for societies ills, maybe rightfully so, due to years of creating neurosis that we didn’t know we needed to have. Then selling us the “solutions” to those neurosis. There have been countless Buzzfeed articles taking them to task for causing many of the divisions in our lives. Now they’re terrified and trying so hard to scream “We’re with you! We’re the good guys!” It’s pathetic.
I'm just catching up on a couple of months of genspect videos , so not sure if commenting now has any worth. Anyway .... When I hear people say that previous generations of youth movements like goth or punk didn't have any long term harm of the kids back then this is not true , there have been casualties from youth movements - mostly because of drug taking for a lot of generations now. I think there has always been a lot of rebellious middle class kids and some have ended up so 'far off the rails ' it has meant lifelong health complications or premature death for some. I have been to enough funerals of old punks, ravers and hippies who took there involvement in a youth 'movement' to extremes. I also think there was probably an equal amount of shock, horror and worry by the parents of each of these generations, however there was no internet for the parents to meet and talk then, the way we can now. I don't think the gender identity movement is really so different after all , it's just none of my generation expected that the drugs the crazy , wild youngsters would want to take would be cross sex hormones. Not saying we shouldn't try to dissuade youth from chopping up there bodies or taking weird hormone drugs , but as always some youth want to rebel and us standing around shouting about it probably actually makes them a whole lot more pleased and adamant about it
Transhumanism... this all leads to transhumanism. Cosmetic surgeries and tattoos tattoos tattoos and body modifications. All creeping up to what we have today. And it will keep going. Once upon a time most woman did not wear makeup. That came in with Hollywood, women wanting to mimic the movie stars. People will keep mimicking. That could be used to turn the tide.
39:51 It's a chelsea cut, popularised by skin head girls in the 80s. 41:50 The guest laughs at the model having bad mastectomy scars, though I don't think Stella meant it as a joke. This gives me more solidarity with the scarred girl who may at some point think "oh no" but accept her situation over time, than with the teen-goth-now-corporate-lady who enjoys schadenfreude. I stopped watching this one 2/3s through. There is something to be said about advertising self-harm, but this isn't it.
There is already a minimally invasive method for very small-breasted women. They basically get one puncture on each breast, which allows the fat to be removed without an incision. However, because most women have average size breasts and some have large breasts, they've had to try to normalise the incisions. I don't think there will ever be a non-invasive way to remove a large piece of flesh.
i think it's key to not take advertising seriously AT ALL. No offense but it's a maturity thing, advertising is mostly lying and deceiving- which is very accepted among most Americans as 'ok' .
1. Motherhood has become meaningless, boobs are just a piece of flesh and getting your period is just something annoying. Being an adolescent girl isn't easy and the trans movement has a "solution": Remove you breasts and take T. and your period will be gone... I I think many young women will be miserable in their 30's when they land on harsh reality . 2. When the torn jeans fashion started a few years ago, I was sure it wouldn't last since it's so ugly and unaesthetic in my opinion. Fast forward and the clothes are getting torn even more and my students ( I'm a teacher in middle school and highschool) cannot understand my point when I say to them that buying torn clothes seems ridiculous. The ant- aesthetic trend is still progressing
The Costa coffee thing is insane. I'm honestly questioning if that's real. If it is then I give up! This isn't in anyway about supporting trans people (I'd say beverage retailers aren't who I look to for gender advice, their coffee isn't that great anyway) it's about positioning a brand to be accepted by a large section of society! The woke drink coffee as well, you need caffeine to get angry and shout at people you don't agree with!
All fashion is about influencing other peoples perceptions but there is something aggressive or even hostile with some piercings and tattoos. Or maybe its just defensive, like the excessively tattooed and muscled up person with an intimidating looking bull terrier by their side. They are so afraid of being attacked they do all they can to make it appear that they are powerful and dangerous. Their paranoia does make them dangerous.
Deta hedman! Current darts player whose about to face punishment for saying no to competing against men in the womens. She has refused twice now so they made a rule to force her. 🙄
I love your content but when she says lies about "you have to denounce your white privilege to be admitted to film school" makes me question everything she says....
Just gunna say it, as a heterosexual man, our words and advise are seen as bottom of the barrel these days and usually we're just scoffed at until we shut up or cause violence (born of frustration or threats), either way we cant help anyone :(
Quite a departure from their (normally amazing) interviews. Today, they pour scorn on "wrong" hairdos, and people who are obese modelling plus size clothes. Obese people need to be confident enough to take part in the world, not be shamed so much that they end up never leaving the house.
They were all in favor of having plus size models and real women like in the Dove commercials. They weren’t in favor of celebrating 600 pound, unhealthy morbid obesity or super skinny eating disorder looks.
It’s so sick that these young impressionable girls are exposed to all this advertising and propaganda. I went through so many stylistic changes in my appearance between age 13 and age 25. I was very girly, then I went through a phase where I cut my hair short and I wore gender neutral Levi’s and no make up. And then eventually I got girly again. It’s fun to play around with your appearance. But these kids are doing this permanent thing to their bodies! It does make me want to cry for them. They will outgrow it but then they will pretend to be happy with their choices because what else can they do? I’m actually curious if their breast nipples stay sensitive like a normal woman or if they get desensitized. And they are led to believe they can still have babies later, I watched that lesbian TV show, THE L WORD, that had a remake a couple years ago with all young lesbian girls and there was a queer girl who became a boy, but then later she wanted to get pregnant and, no problem! Then she looked like a hairy boy having a baby. But in reality she likely would’ve been infertile. What the hell is going on?? Why have they made people believe that they have to conform stylistically to any one thing? My mother, born in the late 20s, thought it was so wonderful that the last few decades women could wear anything they wanted, as opposed to when she was younger when there was only one style you were allowed to wear.
It's interesting how these companies don't think about Breast cancer survivors who may have had to have mastectomies in order to save their lives. As one of those women, I find these adverts very offensive
I attended a Kelly Jay Keen rally last year. The trans activists protesting our presence were easily 35% young women.
Young women are oblivious to issues like breast cancer and even the real world issues lesbians confront outside the university. campus
@@sarahneedham same
I was just thinking the same thing.
Thank you for adding your voice to the conversation.
They don't think of anyone or anything but suckholing to progressives. It's despicable.
I'd like to comment on the ads with obese women. Ten years ago, I was obese. I have had an insatiable hunger since I was a kid and it is actually painful. But I realized that my size was destroying my health. As painful as it was, at the age of 73, I lost 150 pounds. Then, a few years later, in January before COVID was understood, I was hospitalized with "pneumonia." It was COVID. I'm quite sure that, had I not lost the weight, I would not have survived. As it is, I am now dependent on supplementary oxygen, permanently. But I'm alive. I'm horrified when I see these obese people in ads. Thank you for explaining it.
From one cat picture avatar person to another, well done! I'm sorry about the oxygen but really impressed you lost so much weight. It's really hard to do.
I appreciate the guest's pointing out that virtue signaling is actually *status* signaling.
@@Zzyzzyx so a breast cancer mastectomy would get me on the "in" list. Just flash em?
On the topic of mastectomy scars...I'm a lifelong female ice hockey player. I dabbled in a local "queer" hockey group (which I quickly left after giving some strong opinions on some awful behaviour I witnessed). I remember being in the change room with about 7-10 young (younger than 30) trans identified people who'd had mastectomies. I cannot tell you how shocked I was at how the apparently completed and healed procedures looked. Those poor people all had been totally botched. I don't know of that was just because of lack of self post surgery care or if that's just the typical results. I'm assuming the latter at this point.
The image you ladies put up by Burberry look well done by comparison.
It really drives home how experimental all of this really is. I began having some doubts a short while ago after being a pretty staunch advocate for years. But now I've seen enough that I've found completely indefensible at this point. I'm not confident that people know what they're getting themselves into anymore.
So now we need to be taken off our regimens, denied medicine, and thrown into institutions all because of what you think because you vote. Thank you for your service!
Ya, better not to encourage that stuff.
It's horrifying. I don't know what will wake people up from this destructive nightmare
@@Tsiskoko certainly!
It was the only team I've ever quit in my life. I've played for dozens of teams since 1997.
They had signed up as a team for a run of the mill co-ed ball hockey league. Which, if ya know ball hockey...it's a pretty scrappy sport because it's very "in your face" personal kinda thing.
I warned them of this. I had no idea of how little experience these "organizers" had.
I never signed up for the "queer" hockey but was contacted by an "organizer" and asked to play for them because goaltenders are hard to come by.
Anyway, to keep it brief (note: this is long but not the 6 page word document I wrote about this in detail, a month ago) I've seen some scrappy teams, usually they can play. Usually teams that are rough are competitive. This was not that.
These kids couldn't hold their sticks correctly. They didn't know the positions. They went out and when they realized they were outmatched by "cis" people in every way, they ended up completely out of control.
Second game in, a brawl was started by the transman identified organizer. He called the wrong girl fat right infront of me and she snapped at him and attacked him. What then ensued was 3 girls on my team jumping on her which, in hockey is HIGHLY inappropriate. You fight your own battles and you fight one on one. That's the unspoken rule.
The "queer" team then complained on and on in the group chat about how the league was discriminatory and unfair for suspending the kid who started the fight with his idiot mouth. While simultaneously debating whether or not to tell the league we were "queer" so they'd...uhhh...give us a free pass I guess.
I finally snapped and told them not to bother because what was said, was said right infront of me and can confirm we started the nonsense. I told them to cut it out, not worry about it and play with dignity going forward.
That did not happen. The organizer kid quit immediately and the other who was involved wasn't present for most of the season. I was in a position of being the most experienced member of the team and tried my absolute best to rein it in and settle them down.
Between them stalking the social media of opponents and mocking their photos in chat, leaving fake reviews on their workplaces naming individuals in the reviews, the incessant unnecessary rough play, and mocking, SPECIFICALLY FEMALE opponents they'd hurt with their sticks in the chat. Because of course they would not go at the men, I ended up seeing it for the lost cause it was. I could not calm them down because they didn't to calm down and play, they wanted to go hurt "the cishets".
So I quit. And I told my story with zero exaggerations on my social media at which point I ironically got accused, unsurprisingly of bullying.
Utter malarkey
So I guess you could say this peaked me.
@@Captainmrahgenuine question, do you think being on testosterone both stunted these females emotionally and made them more aggressive/impulsive? Or do you think their victim mindset and bullying tactics were just a psychological coping strategy for deep-seated insecurities, or what?
Jennifer was one of only a handful of sensible people who kept me sane during The Great Panic. Thank you Jennifer.
A darker side to the baffling razor ad is the subliminal/subtle/insider nod to self harm. Hence the focus on the "sharpness" and the mastectomy scars which often accompany other self inflicted scars.
I thought it was like about blade sharpness, like the scalpel that cuts your breast off (and makes you "free" in doing so)
ew ew ew! i can't unsee that now!
💯 absolutely. It reminds me of the ‘cutting’ phenomenon
That also crossed my mind, that the use could be self harm
And the fact that the razor is by her neck!!
It's not just an obsession, it's a hostile takeover.
Love Jennifer. She's sharp and courageous.
I swear I freaking love this channel. I'm learning so much
As a lesbian I appreciated the discussion of body mod.
Tattoos, piercings, and angry rejection of natural beauty have long been the norm among lesbians. Now testosterone (steroids) and mastectomies have been added to the mix, as trans identity is more prevalent among lesbians than other populations.
If we want to understand why trans has caught on broadly, it could be helpful to study why lesbians for 25+ years have been into body mod. I say this as a 39 yo lesbian who always resented the pressure to self-deface. What drives young lesbians (and older ones!) to treat themselves this way? If we figure that out, maybe we can help everyone who's now caught up in this mania.
My son had z freak accident when he was 14, and he recieved a deep ragged cut on his chest he needed 30 stitches and his emergency scar looked like the one in the barberry advert. This advert is about the scar not the op. Making the ragged scar the fashion accessory. A neat scar should almost disappear.
Yeah I think everything centers around men from different angles. Like performative femininity is often done to appeal to men, but completely rejecting any sort of femininity in fear of being seen as vulnerable or weak and submissive, isn't that the same thing? If women weren't getting controlled by men, then this shouldn't cause such a dismissive reaction. I always had the need to behave and dress in a stereotypically masculine manner because I believed that being feminine means getting fetishized and assaulted, disregarded, not considered enough, not listened to,.. I hated the feeling of being powerless, and it's also worth noting that it sparked aggression in me, irritated by everything so easily, zero confidence and strong feeling of doubt, unworthiness. I seemed to never just be masculine enough to really feel safe (led to me putting on a male identity for about 3 years).. One could say that women really pushing themselves hard to be extremely masculine is progressive, but is it really? It's still men who sort of make them do it, in hopes of getting autonomy over their bodies, but the freedom of expression is still locked behind bars. They still fear to be themselves, it's sad, and me included, wonder if that'll ever change.
Very very pleased to say that Jennifer now has a new customer and supporter. I work in advertising in Australia and thankfully this hasn't seemed to reach our quaint little island juuuust yet. Touch wood.
I hope you're following Sall Grover and Giggle vs Tickle, it could be law changing in your neck of the woods.
@@trippinggauntlet4520 Oh I absolutely adore Sal! I want Giggle to succeed and for her to win this case. It's going to be incredibly important in setting a legal precedent.
And as a gay man, I well and truly understand the importance of same-sex spaces.
@@MixedTake Great to hear!
Yes, incredibly important, not just for SSspaces, but for same sex attracted folk also. If binary sex doesn't exist, then all protections specifically for gays or lesbians disappear as well.
I love that she's an atheist. I'm also atheist and see how this trans stuff is really turning into a religion and one reason why I'm atheist was learning to leave dogma behind. Yet here's this gender ideology. With all this religious language. I want to know where I can support her business. ♥️
Producer note: Check out her brand at www.xx-xyathletics.com. The quality is truly top notch. I have two shirts and leggings and they the best!
Raygun, the breakdancer at the Olympics, was the best advertisement for Wokeness ever.
Just gaslighting us with the insulting upsurdity and shaming us for saying it was awful and disrespectful to the art.
That scene was so absurd. What a joke
I know she has a PHD in woke nonsense, and so probably has no self awareness and no sense of humour, but part of me finds it difficult to believe that she isn't some kind of Aussie comedy genius. Her performance had such a strong "Kath and Kim" vibe. (Kath and Kim was a brilliant Aussie comedy show about 30 years ago). Australian comedy has always prominently featured people with no self awareness making fools of themselves because they have no self awareness.
Ok guys, no dance shaming.
Jennifer Sey accidentally came up with a great new term, but she didn't realize it. When talking about the Burberry ad, she said, "sig-norant". Seems like the perfect word to sum up the attitude where people virtue signal but are ignorant about what they're really doing. I'm planning to use it in the future 😁
I grew up in the 90s and I remember ads back then used friendship and gathering as a thematic tool to sell their products. You don't see that as much now, and I have to wonder if that's partially due to the fact that gathering and friend groups are not as relatable to young people :(
What are you talking about? All young people do is hang out (and text) in huge groups. If anything, they don't have best friends anymore, and much of their sexual socialization is delayed because they'd rather spend time with their parents than with their friends.
@John-tr5hn Thanks John you summed my point up nicely.
Not true, teens are not hanging out, face to face as much as they used to. It is known. Look it up.
I am late genx/early millenial. It took me YEARS to get over the shaving/hair guilt of my teens, what I "should" do to be feminine. Happily hairy in my 40s.
Great episode! Jennifer is so sharp and inspiring! I just bought some items from XX-XY athletics- after watching this Olympic Games, I’ve been dying to do something to support women’s sports! :’(
The gender critical activist Exulansic has great terminology for describing the schism within the trans movement that Jennifer was asking about. She describes on the one side, what she calls the Our Lady of Perpetual Hormone Replacement Therapy “church,” which are made up of people who sometimes call themselves “transmedalists.” They are people who tend to identify as “true transsexuals,” and they believe that gender dysphoria is an incurable medical condition that reflects a biological basis for them being transgender (like a cross-sex brain) and requires them to undergo medical treatment. They tend to skew older, a little more male, and mostly- almost exclusively- homosexual. Then on the other side, she terms the Nonbinitarian “church”- who practice queer theory and tend to skew female, young and heterosexual. They’re into “queering the gender binary.”
Unsurprisingly, since each group challenges the others’ trans identities in different ways, both groups have slurs for each other. The transmeds call the nonbinaries and queer theorists “transtrenders,” implying that they are adopting a trans identity as a trend or even contagion and aren’t truly transgender. The nonbinaries and queer theories call themselves tucutes and call the transmeds “truescum,” because they view them as gatekeeping trans identity and upholding the gender binary.
Interestingly, when you guys were talking about the reverence or sanctity of the body that one might find in religion, I couldn’t help but notice that the unusual haircut in the Burberry advertisement looks almost like a tonsure worn by a monk. And while I agree it’s true that many religions focus on the sanctity of the body as a creation of God, many people also notice the parallel between religiously inspired self-harm (examples of priests or nuns starving themselves, scourging their body as penance, etc) and transgender body mod. Both are gnostic in essence, urging people to move away from the mortal body, and more towards the spirit (or, the gender identity), and sometimes demonizing the body in the process. Some describe gender transition as a quasi-religious act that punishes the evil, sinful body through gruesome procedures as a means of both proving the strength of one’s faith, and cleansing oneself of the sins of “cisgender privilege” or else whatever one hated about oneself before the transition/transformation. You could argue transgenderism/queer theory is a modern form of gnostic religion.
You should read Mary Harrington
Went out to a hip dive bar in Bushwick the other night, a rare date night while the kid was in sleep away camp. Across the board the aesthetic is Beyond the Thunderdome, post apocalyptic freak show. Tattoos and face piercings, latex, trans, straight guys dressed ironically ugly, it was just so insane to seen. Now that I'm almost 50 and was edgy and cool in the 90s, I just can't help but think how badly some of these irreversable body modifications are going to age. The only person dressed normally with a fit body was the cute twink waiter at the restaurant.
Shame is awesome. It feels bad, but there's an evolutionary reason for its existence in the human psyche. When it's appropriate, shame is protective.
It feels more and more like the young girls getting the mastectomies are exhibitionist, the I got top surgery videos are so bizarre and the medioplasty videos ... Its like somekind of weird porn in a way .. And what are they going to do to top this weirdness 😔 they are desperate for attention....
I think their transness is more like a shield and the scars serve as their proof of transness.
@@weouryourthem they seek validation for their self mutilation
I think it goes beyond transness. It's as if breasts are the physical signs of being a woman, and many women would rather be men, so they just get rid of what they don't "need." In a certain sense, it feels like a great deal of feminism is obsessed with going against women's bodies, which menstruate and lactate and hot flash and get pregnant and stay pregnant.
@@weouryourthem is it porn inspired or a body modification counter culture movement
@@S2023. I suspect a little bit of both and also mental health issues, social pressure and cult-like adherence.
If something needs to be normalized, then it ain't normal
@LeishaCamden - I don't think that's correct. I know it sounds right but given the logic of that statement, the following things CANNOT BE NORMAL because they had to be normalised:
women going to work, having the vote, using contraception, not being raped by their husbands (legally), wearing trousers and not being called a dyke, being able to get a no fault divorce, getting custody of their kids, being considered as suitable to run for public office, being allowed to get a degree, be a doctor (or any number of other professions barred to women) need I go on?
All of these things were considered abnormal a century ago, and had to be normalised by exposure. Oh, and in the UK, the rape in marriage law only dates to the 1980's and yet I suspect no one would consider it abnormal now, that a woman can refuse sex with her husband.
So you don't think accepting gay people and interracial relationships are important? Because those had to be normalized as well.
@@John-tr5hn Speak for yourself. Interracial relationships never had to be normalized in my country. In New Zealand Maori and Pakeha have been marrying each other ever since the settler-colonists arrived in 1840.
well duh. the question isn’t if it’s normal, but if abnormal automatically equals bad or if normal automatically equals good. slavery was globally normal once. but slavery is bad. so we made it abnormal.
@@lilith3953 - what are you talking about - just because in one tiny portion of this globe interracial marriage was NOT seen as abnormal doesn't negate all the suffering caused by laws against it in the rest of the world - does it?
I’m am a mom who lost a daughter to this a two years after we’ve moved to America from England.
We are liberal, but rational. This podcast I mostly agree with, just is quite politicized unfortunately. My daughter was claiming that I’ve switched to conservative views and there was no way to convince her, I’m caring about her wellbeing 😔 not about who supports this trend. I wish there was WHO and doctors environment sending this messages and I wish they speak one voice on this tragic in consequences on the cross hormones and sex change surgeries on kids and young adults. Also sick about the psychology field who help to destroy my and many families taking totally wrong approach on the lost young people going through the puberty and dealing with trauma.
On the subject of this elements in advertising- is the same wrong as social media promoting the trend.
I am so sorry
it makes me so mad that women can't show their nipples, but as soon as they get a double mastectomy and "identify" as a man the nipples are totally fine to show! I have NEVER seen advertising showing the bare chest of women who had to have a mastectomy due to breat cancer.
Exactly! And they don't even have to identify as men. Many of these women identify as non-binary.
WOW totally blown away by her analyses of these ads! they all just struck me as "uncanny" though i couldnt explain why, and then she completely elucidated and articulated exactly what i was feeling and the causes of feeling that way 🤯...
Confusion is the point. Keep people confused and untrusting of their own 5 senses and they are much easier to control.
Very disturbing ads. Wow. This channel is so important.
The long term goal of progressivism is to make current society unlivable and that way force creation of a new one, which will then be welcomed as an improvement. It is a change of tactics after forcing societal change through revolution was repeatedly shown to be unpractical, because of extreme push-back from the population who don't like the arbitrarily set new order.
I doubt that whatever we will end up with will be an improvement.
Your theory is paranoid and makes absolutely no sense in the history of revolutions, much less the reality of the world. Revolutions require a significant amount of organizing; they require a whole lot of discipline and in the U.S. would require millions of people acting in concerted effort (a minimum percentage of the population is necessary for revolution and always has been).
Your idea of revolution is entirely online and not healthy. It’s also nowhere to be seen in the real world-and no, campus protests do not count in the least.
Read up on revolutions and you may save yourself some brain cells and senseless anxiety.
Yes lets go back to the early 1900's when corporations ruled and everyone was happy with children working in the mines, 7 day workweek, no safery rules, no social security/medicare (in US), Women were property, etc etc, until those awful progressives ruined everything!
It will be a godless hell for sure.
Neo Marxist philosopher Herbert Marcusé promotes the dissolution of society by subverting values in his 1965 book "One Dimensional Man". Heprescribes using the children of the post war affluent, and the resentment of the "ghetto" classes to achieve his glorious awakening.
Wonderful conversation!
Love Jen Sey. This was such an interesting analysis. Thank you!
Subscribers are climbing!!😊😊
The Burberry ad cracked me up. It is quite funny how these crazy expensive, high priced brands use models that look anything but. It's like a fashion shoot done out of someone's basement, in the bad side of town.
Women athletes who are still competing are afraid to stand up because they are afraid of being banned from competition.
Really loved this thoroughly engaging discussion, thank you
great discussion.
just one complaint. you really need to look deeper into the science on cholesterol. sorry, it's not the cause of heart disease and not even a good indicator. geez, even Time magazine finally acknowledged that 10 - 15 years ago. the real risk with obesity is the inflammation that comes with the visceral fat, half the mass in a fat belly is the white blood cells attacking the misplaced fat--brought to you by seed oils (so-called vegetable oils), which nobody should eat. chronically elevated blood sugar + inflammation = heart disease. so no being fat is NOT healthy.
Have you watched "Institute of Human Anatomy" RUclips channel? It's interesting.
Thank you for sharing ladies. Cheers.
Thanks ladies 🎉
Regarding whether the two contradictory parts of genderism are at war... the stereotype-reliant faction are AGPs, who are strategic and play the long game. They don't see the emotive bluehairs as a threat because nobody takes them seriously.
55:00 - omg "butter-churning pioneers from the 1880s" just killed me, hats off to Ms. Sey
Not only do they not see them as a threat, the whole concept of “trans kids” and “born in the wrong body” helps justify cross-dressing middle aged men “finally getting to be their true authentic selves”
I remember many years ago a TV show about body modification. One of the people highlighted was a guy who had a sack of something along the lines of silly putty (something like a breast implant) inserted into his forehead so he could mold the shape of his forehead on a whim.
Yuk
The next interview could very fittingly be with james lindsay, to discuss where this astroturfed ESG / SDG cultural revolution is really coming from. You're endlessly circling the periphery, and it's agonizing waiting for you to catch up to see the elephant in the room.
What is ESG/SDG??
@@taraiarusso9625ESG = environmental social governance, a concept driven by private equity firms and hedge funds ike BlackRock, who are majority shareholders in the nearly all Fortune 500 companies. They create frameworks that companies must adhere to around things like cutting carbon emissions, promoting LGBTQIA+ equality, and supporting social justice causes.
SDG = sustainable development goals, part of a UN programme called Agenda 2030 which was devised years ago and which all signatory countries have vowed to implement. It means working towards replacing conventional energy sources with renewables, reducing consumption, and employing social engineering to create societies where people have fewer children and mass migration is used instead to keep the population growing.
While on paper ESG and SDG sound reasonable and progressive, they are actually radical and authoritarian, and are contributing to economic decline and the unravelling of traditional values.
Loved this interview!
Stella, I had noticed that, too. A woman can show her breast as long as her nipple is covered. She can show her nipples if her breasts are removed.
Very disturbing.
The ads make all people look androgynous, could it be to normalize the onslaught of AI robots into our everyday life in the near future so we don’t look different to them
About the body’s portrayed in ads - I agree. I wish we could hire models based on their mental and physical health tbh. Why are we showcasing “models” that will die young because of their additions, mental illnesses etc. why are we telling young girls this what you should strive for? I say this as someone diagnosed with “severe and enduring anorexia”. It does not help to be gaslit by who claim to eat and be healthy with completely emaciated bodies. Same goes for obesity.
Isn't the advertising trend a result of a larger agenda of social engineering? This seems clear to me. Is the interviewi aware of this deeper agenda? I don't think this is an organically manifested phenomenon. Much if not all advertising through the years has driven social trends around gender roles and sexuality. I grew up in the 60's and 70's. The agendas have always been pushed. As a child and teenager I was very influenced. This is money driven to some degree, but that is not the root. Social engineering. And yes, it is sad. I'm a lesbian and have been living with various types of trans ideologies, surgeries etc for many years ( certainly since the 90's for gay women transitioning to trans guys)
Sasha and Stella live in the world of distressed parents and rebellious teens. The trans religion is one of a number in the new cult.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT MONEY. This is ideologically driven. Various industries and institutions have been captured by the woke, and nudged into woke SJW garbage. This is LOSING money for most entities, very few are profiting and those that are, are doing so incidentally. Stop the “follow the money” Alex Jones analysis. It doesn’t work with the far left.
Yes! 38 minutes in!
Bethany Hamilton has also loudly spoken up!
I'm a qualified Counsellor and wrote the last two National NHS Gender treatment policy for adults.
I initially got involved in Treatment for children, getting the clinic in Leeds for their treatment. But have always been against hormonal treatment for children. I am a Trans Woman.
Thank you all...
Great interview, thank you! Jennifer is very brave, and I would like to read her book. I wonder if you could perhaps cover the same or similar topic with a guest such as Gail Dines' viewpoint? Because I see a huge porn influence in this, as well as a kind of pedophilia/porn influence. Not sure if others see this, but it's got to be there. And we know what big multinational business porn is and how influential it is in advertising. Anyway, just a thought. But I think we're all in deep trouble if these trends continue and no one pushes back strongly.
Be sure to watch next week's episode with Shane. We talk about about this!
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Ladies, I've got to push back on the cholesterol and carnivore comment. You don't understand what you're talking about. Love what you do and please keep talking about the important topic of the horrible trans epidemic.
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I think it was more of a general point about how right and left are marketed to in different ways?
Carnivore diets are quite extreme regardless of health implications.
I've got type 2 diabetes so I've looked into and adopted bits of high protein diets and found it useful but like any diet you look into it before you do it. Anyway.
So...right after i finished watching this video, RUclips played an ad by a german shoe company (tamaris) which featured queer People and a slogan along the lines of "you are perfect the way you are" (The slogan seemingly refering to the idea of the "true authentic self" or queer identity). While the product they are selling was not entirely absent in the clip, it seemd very clear to me, that the political and the presumed morally right messaging was at the forefront of the people who created the ad. It is by far not the first woke ad I've seen, so I was quite intrigued by your choice of topic for this video. I am baffled and quite horrified by all of the Posters you discussed. We are living in such strange times.
"Perfect the way you are", I fund that so bizarre, surely they were "perfect the way they were" before they messed about with their bodies? I have to say I have forever found it sad and silly that surgical modification of the body is seen as a good idea, I've always disliked tatios and piercings, cannot understand why you would willingly damage important organs in your body, the skin is a super important part of our bodies we need to care for to keep ourselves healthy, couldn't understand the obsession with tanning which seemed to start in the late 70s/early 80s, I remember a neighbour saying to me as a kid when we were going to visit relatives in Malta "oh that's great you'll come back as brown as a Berry" and me thinking yuck what would I want to do that - I was very fair red head, really got to be careful of my sun exposure... Yeah I dunno, maybe it was cos I had red hair and was bullied for it, I just think it's important ppl learn to love and care for their natural bodies. It's sad that that approach never seems to popular, of course it's not going to make money for any sector except clical psychologists and counsellors although it would likely result in massive cost savings to NHS, better mental health and ppl having more money to spend on decent nutrition and healthy hobbies rather than on crappie fashion and styling products...
It's a profitable industry. It's all about money.
Money plays a role, but there are lots of ways to make money, and it's worth figuring out why unnecessary hormones and surgeries were chosen.
Aryna Sabalenka’s coach was criticized for wearing an XX/XY hat at the US Open. He is “under fire” for wearing it.
18:25 -- M. Lindell makes more than pillows. A great product doesn't need expensive, flashy ads. I own his sandals... he makes towels, dog items, etc.
She's not only talking about the effectiveness of the ads; she's talking about how they make people feel. Many people would buy those pillows if they weren't associated with Lindell and Trump. And the ads themselves just look like trashy infomercials from the '90s. It's similar to how Target and Walmart are basically identical at this point, but most liberals would never get caught dead in a Walmart while they have no problem buying the same cheap imported crap made by the same exploited workers at Target. Meanwhile, many conservatives won't shop at Target because of their pro-LGBT clothing and political bent.
The pillow ads might not have expensive production, but they run CONSTANTLY on Fox News and Newsmax. My dad watches those and whenever I’m over, I see those commercials non stop. I just don’t watch much tv, mostly internet.
HR is run mainly by women
The mystery hairdo from the Burberry ad is the traditional hairstyle for female skinheads. Like, wtf.
If you would like to hear why "cholesterol" is much less important than over-all metabolic health, see Dr. Malcom Kendrick, Dr. Paul Mason or Dr. Tro Kalajian.
I'd fell like saying "well, duh." -- "Normalization" is an extension of "transgression;" the method through which to act. It maximally extorts many reasons, not just "malicious instigators" whom revel in and care only to cause issue and needless dysfunction.
Corporate America caught virtue envy. But the virtues they embraced were actually sins. Pity corporate America had not read Socrates; otherwise they may have figured that they weren't really batting on the side of virtue but against it. There's a lesson for all of us here: virtues aren't simple slogans we can adopt. Lasting, deep, virtues are lessons life teaches us, which we must struggle to learn.
Thank you for your honesty conversation. I appreciate it.
I have to say it. I think if you strip down all these issues, the common denominator is denial of God. The thinking "I am god." "I am my own god." "I decide what is right and what is wrong." I believe, its what led us to this point again in history. I'm seeing that conclusion in every problem nowadays.
I appreciate you using your voice to speak truths.
God or just grown ups?
@@AndyJarman Sorry, I'm not following what you're saying...
That is not so among immigrants who are not Christians. My relatives are quite traditional in their way of living. They are Buddhists.
@@khanhminhnguyen7274 I'd like to hear you elaborate on that. I'm not super familiar with Eastern Buddhism. What are their beliefs on ethics?
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For Buddhists who are not monks or nuns, there are five precepts to follow. These are intertwined in Vietnamese culture to such an extend that people practice them or most of them without thinking about Buddhism.
For monks and nuns, they have to follow more rules.
Generally, the idea is minimal attachment or non attachment to one's desires (especially ones that can harm people's progress for enlightenment).
It is interesting you do not know non Christian religions, and yet you claim not worshiping your god is the cause of gender ideology.
That sounds like Christian nationalism 🤔
The ads encouraging drug use with your friends isn't necessarily about reducing stigma against drug use. It is because it is more dangerous to use alone if you take a drug and overdose. No one is around to revive you with nalaxone.
Note: That wasn't a Calvin Klein ad. If you read the text, it was another company paying "homage" to Calvin Klein.
You are correct. We deeply apologize and we’ll issue a correction. Thanks for pointing this out!
The dove campaign was about selling ice crem.
I was listening to some tech guys who say that they are getting rid of the HR departments because of this.
My son wants to go into film school🤔
You talked about how the young generation will do the exact opposite of the parent generation. So if parents shaved off all of their hair the young will have lots of hair everywhere. If the parents strived to be so skinny they’d end up looking like skeletons the young would go for “body positivity” a.k.a. unhealthy obesity. For many years women went for large breasts and had implants. Some even kept going back for larger and larger bags of silicone. The pendulum swings back and forth from one generation to the next. So I was thinking maybe the mastectomy trend of today is - at least in part - a push back on the big fake breasts.
About the weight issue. I'm ä a horse person, and I've been scrutinized for saying that morbidly obesed persons shouldn't ride horses because its fatfobic to say that. I dont care, the truth is, it is harmful for the horse, there is sientific research on it. You can be as heavy as you want but your not climbing on top of my horses.
That is what critical theories are for. To completely dismantle the current system
We have to outlaw "ladies and gentlemen " and " mom and dad " and become "chest feeders" to be "inclusive". Academia has been destroyed and these new graduates only know identity politics and queer theory. You are either oppressed or the oppressor. It's so far gone I feel the quality of actual clinical care has been diminished. Now therapy referrals in our group shop for "cis/het provider" or someone that has to align with their fragile clients politics. It's beyond help. Who decides that neo Marxist ideology has to take over every institution.
That was really interesting, talking about how gender ideolgy is becoming normalised in culture is really important and it is worrying.
Gender Dysphoria is still in the DSM, we don't usually celebrate or try to glamourise mental illness let alone the removal of healthy body parts. You hopefully (although nothing much would surprise me now) see Gillette using self harm scars to appeal to a cohort of mentally ill people who can gain some sort of relief using their product to hurt themselves. I hope the Advertising Standards in the UK wouldn't allow that. I'd hope they wouldn't allow any of the post surgery scarring either
I guess getting Gender Dysphoria out of the DSM and into a purely cosmetic procedure to "correct" bodies is what some activists would like. From my limited knowledge of the American healthcare system that would also take away insurance funded care. Actually it would probably stop a lot of surgeries, they really aren't cheap!
The "woke" advertising is quite upsetting. The whole massive increase in girls with rapid onset gender dysphoria is scary and needs to be studied and treated with empathy and compassion. To use it to advertise coffee and fashion brands is distasteful and disrespectful to the people going through it. It just really doesn't make me want to buy a latte. This is becoming bizarre.
I'm really started to worry about young girls now. I always wondered what the ramifications of unlimited, uncensored pornography would be. I think porn has caused a massive increace in the sexualisation of society. This plays a part in why girls might be terrified of being seen as purely as sexual objects. People will correctly say there has always been porn but the difference now is in quantity and strength. I don't like porn much (I see everyone being exploited, the male and female actors and the viewer) I haven't seen any in 25 years, it was always off-puttingingly aggressive and so far away from reality I found it offensive and a bit ridiculous. I'm of the last of the generation who had sex before seeing hardcore porn. In the UK we had girly mags and they weren't that bad, not exactly promoting female emancipation but compared to the stuff which became available online was very tame. It still had a negative effect on boys impressions of women. What young guys are watching now is often aggressive, slapping, verbally abusive and apparently that's normal. That worries me.
You hear varied stats but it seems to be a huge increase of girls seeking treatment, there are many reasons for that but I don't think companies using images of women with "top surgery" scarring is appropriate. Surely removal of healthy body parts should be a treatment for people suffering from the most extreme dysmorphia.
Such a broad podcast! So I'll stick my opinion on men in women's sport as well!
Male athletes should absolutely stick up for women's sport. A lot of the time they are higher profile. It would be great to have a big star just be honest. It's not transphobia to be against trans women competing in womens sport, especially combat sports. I really hope it doesn't happen but in a sport like MMA a women could be killed, thats not an empty controversial statement. If you've been through male puberty you will be stronger and in a combat sport where serious injury is a risk regardless it's pure insanity to let that happen. I know that rugby union as a a sport has recommended that trans women pose a danger and basically dont want law suits because a women is paralysed after being tackled by somebody.
Thanks your podcast is one of the best out there addressing this issue.
Strange to see a skinette haircut on the Burberry add... Skinead movement is so far away from woke !
The carnivore diet is not crazy. It is a nutritionally-complete option for those who want to choose ketogenic diet in order to improve their mental health (see Georgia Ede and Chris Palmer), metabolic health (see Eric Westman, Anthony Chaffee, Shawn Baker and Virta Health) and auto-immune disorders (see Mikhaila Peterson and Jordan Peterson).
I've noticed a lot of similarities between vegan/plant-based activism and trans activism. Between the cultish behavior, the corrupt scientific evidence, the gaslighting and the support from the WEF, it can be hard to tell the difference.
You'll also get rickets if you don't eat any plants as a child, but go ahead and pretend that humans didn't evolve as omnivores.
@@John-tr5hn I'm not arguing that people can't eat plants but your point is backwards. Infants fed vegan and vegetarian diets can get rickets from malnutrition. 🤷♂️
Jordan Peterson ended up in the hospital because he was only eating meat. And the ketogenic diet is incredibly dangerous and only recommend for people with very specific constitutions. Your brain literally runs on glucose, you need carbs.
@@John-tr5hnanimals eat plants. If you eat the animals you eat the micronutrients from the plants they have eaten.
Making a profit to run a company, provide employment, feed and house a family = good.
Greed = bad
I'm surprised so many people don't understand that vital difference.
Greed is always bad.
I love how those on the right wing of politics squeal when they perceive they no longer have the upper hand. When things were the other way around it was "S*ck it up, sunshine".
I come from a British family that worked for the rights of the working man and woman who were at the mercy of unprincipled business owners.
Never mind, Republicans. The pendulum of human affairs will swing back your way in time.
I think that advertising has gotten so much of the blame for societies ills, maybe rightfully so, due to years of creating neurosis that we didn’t know we needed to have. Then selling us the “solutions” to those neurosis. There have been countless Buzzfeed articles taking them to task for causing many of the divisions in our lives. Now they’re terrified and trying so hard to scream “We’re with you! We’re the good guys!” It’s pathetic.
I'm just catching up on a couple of months of genspect videos , so not sure if commenting now has any worth. Anyway ....
When I hear people say that previous generations of youth movements like goth or punk didn't have any long term harm of the kids back then this is not true , there have been casualties from youth movements - mostly because of drug taking for a lot of generations now. I think there has always been a lot of rebellious middle class kids and some have ended up so 'far off the rails ' it has meant lifelong health complications or premature death for some. I have been to enough funerals of old punks, ravers and hippies who took there involvement in a youth 'movement' to extremes.
I also think there was probably an equal amount of shock, horror and worry by the parents of each of these generations, however there was no internet for the parents to meet and talk then, the way we can now. I don't think the gender identity movement is really so different after all , it's just none of my generation expected that the drugs the crazy , wild youngsters would want to take would be cross sex hormones.
Not saying we shouldn't try to dissuade youth from chopping up there bodies or taking weird hormone drugs , but as always some youth want to rebel and us standing around shouting about it probably actually makes them a whole lot more pleased and adamant about it
The razor blade on the woman with the armpit hair I think was because she was taking testosterone and was shaving off chest hair.
Why would she shave it off? She want to appear more “masculine” does she?
I see your point, but a lot of straight guys shave their chest hair, so…?
Transhumanism... this all leads to transhumanism. Cosmetic surgeries and tattoos tattoos tattoos and body modifications. All creeping up to what we have today. And it will keep going.
Once upon a time most woman did not wear makeup. That came in with Hollywood, women wanting to mimic the movie stars.
People will keep mimicking. That could be used to turn the tide.
Yep. Trans humanism is the next logical step.
39:51 It's a chelsea cut, popularised by skin head girls in the 80s.
41:50 The guest laughs at the model having bad mastectomy scars, though I don't think Stella meant it as a joke. This gives me more solidarity with the scarred girl who may at some point think "oh no" but accept her situation over time, than with the teen-goth-now-corporate-lady who enjoys schadenfreude. I stopped watching this one 2/3s through. There is something to be said about advertising self-harm, but this isn't it.
You just know that the MINUTE that gender surgeons figure out how to do mastectomies without leaving scars, showing the scars will become -phobic.
The male athletes don't have the shield of being directly and personally harmed, so it's easier for them to be dismissed as bigots.
There is already a minimally invasive method for very small-breasted women. They basically get one puncture on each breast, which allows the fat to be removed without an incision.
However, because most women have average size breasts and some have large breasts, they've had to try to normalise the incisions.
I don't think there will ever be a non-invasive way to remove a large piece of flesh.
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i think it's key to not take advertising seriously AT ALL.
No offense but it's a maturity thing, advertising is mostly lying and deceiving- which is very accepted among most Americans as 'ok' .
1. Motherhood has become meaningless, boobs are just a piece of flesh and getting your period is just something annoying. Being an adolescent girl isn't easy and the trans movement has a "solution": Remove you breasts and take T. and your period will be gone... I I think many young women will be miserable in their 30's when they land on harsh reality .
2. When the torn jeans fashion started a few years ago, I was sure it wouldn't last since it's so ugly and unaesthetic in my opinion. Fast forward and the clothes are getting torn even more and my students ( I'm a teacher in middle school and highschool) cannot understand my point when I say to them that buying torn clothes seems ridiculous. The ant- aesthetic trend is still progressing
The Costa coffee thing is insane. I'm honestly questioning if that's real. If it is then I give up!
This isn't in anyway about supporting trans people (I'd say beverage retailers aren't who I look to for gender advice, their coffee isn't that great anyway) it's about positioning a brand to be accepted by a large section of society! The woke drink coffee as well, you need caffeine to get angry and shout at people you don't agree with!
This podcast feels like a weekly injection of sanity in a world full of insanity.
All fashion is about influencing other peoples perceptions but there is something aggressive or even hostile with some piercings and tattoos. Or maybe its just defensive, like the excessively tattooed and muscled up person with an intimidating looking bull terrier by their side. They are so afraid of being attacked they do all they can to make it appear that they are powerful and dangerous. Their paranoia does make them dangerous.
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Deta hedman! Current darts player whose about to face punishment for saying no to competing against men in the womens. She has refused twice now so they made a rule to force her. 🙄
I love your content but when she says lies about "you have to denounce your white privilege to be admitted to film school" makes me question everything she says....
Im a conservative recently admitted to film school...
Just gunna say it, as a heterosexual man, our words and advise are seen as bottom of the barrel these days and usually we're just scoffed at until we shut up or cause violence (born of frustration or threats), either way we cant help anyone :(
Mao's struggle sessions. Its not complicated.
Quite a departure from their (normally amazing) interviews. Today, they pour scorn on "wrong" hairdos, and people who are obese modelling plus size clothes. Obese people need to be confident enough to take part in the world, not be shamed so much that they end up never leaving the house.
This lady has a lot to say but isn't really saying anything. Stopped watching after 25 minutes.
Stella looks high as a kite
Guiness.
🙄 no, she doesn’t You need to get out more
Listening to three slim women argue that we shouldn't have plus size models made me feel slightly queasy.
Where did they say that? They mentioned obesity celebration by PR campaigns and I agree with them. Obesity isn't healthy.
They were all in favor of having plus size models and real women like in the Dove commercials. They weren’t in favor of celebrating 600 pound, unhealthy morbid obesity or super skinny eating disorder looks.
@@jwhite5396exactly
Wearing size XL is one thing, needing Dr Now to save your life is another thing entirely
Plus size is cool. Lots of guys like BBW, just not land whales 🐳.
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It’s a mod hair cut
It’s so sick that these young impressionable girls are exposed to all this advertising and propaganda. I went through so many stylistic changes in my appearance between age 13 and age 25. I was very girly, then I went through a phase where I cut my hair short and I wore gender neutral Levi’s and no make up. And then eventually I got girly again. It’s fun to play around with your appearance. But these kids are doing this permanent thing to their bodies! It does make me want to cry for them. They will outgrow it but then they will pretend to be happy with their choices because what else can they do?
I’m actually curious if their breast nipples stay sensitive like a normal woman or if they get desensitized. And they are led to believe they can still have babies later, I watched that lesbian TV show, THE L WORD, that had a remake a couple years ago with all young lesbian girls and there was a queer girl who became a boy, but then later she wanted to get pregnant and, no problem! Then she looked like a hairy boy having a baby. But in reality she likely would’ve been infertile. What the hell is going on?? Why have they made people believe that they have to conform stylistically to any one thing? My mother, born in the late 20s, thought it was so wonderful that the last few decades women could wear anything they wanted, as opposed to when she was younger when there was only one style you were allowed to wear.