Knifemaker Reviews the Horl 2 Sharpener
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- I got a lot of questions about the Horl 2 sharpener. In this video you find out what I think about it.
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I'm 59 and never mastered knife sharpening. Bought the Horl2, a Beavercraft strop and some compound a while ago. Knifes can now cut paper like he showed in the video. Family was very happy cutting the turkey Thursday.
I'm very mechanically inclined and an electrician, not sharpening a knife well seems like a tear in my man card, but the Horl2 at least disguises my lack of skill when visitors use our knifes.
@@westcoaststacker569 yeah that is the reason they made it great system great that you love it
It's kind of ironic that people are using this to sharpen considerably much cheaper knives....
@@devlin2427 Agreed. Is it better to invest in many expensive knives I cannot sharpen properly or a single sharpener which allows my mid-range knives to cut above their station?
For putting on the final polish and knocking off the burrs, affix an thick piece of scrap leather to piece of wood and put a small bit of metal polishing compound on the leather and work it into the leather with the knife. Over time the leather gets filled with compound and you don’t need to add any. The polishing compound puts a razor edge onto the knife.
thanks mate. Yeah i did exactly that. Helps out alot.
if you check my other videos you can see my block of wood and leather💪i always clamp it into my vise to hold it
@@forgeworks3176 I’m almost 60 and I was taught the leather and polishing compound method by a friend of my dad’s who was a fireman. I was about 10 at the time. He sharpened knives and was really good at it, taught everyone in town how to do it.
@@forgeworks3176 yeah, I wrote my comment before I saw you use the polishing compound and leather part of the video.
@@Kingfisher1215 no worries. What compound are you using?
Excellent video! You are the only person that I've seen use the Kagami and it seems it's worth the money.
thank you. It is definitely nice addition if you wanna make a mirror polish on your edge
Exactly. I want my knives to be sharp without becoming a knife-sharpening nerd (no offence to nerds). I bought the Horl 1 four years ago. I use it about twice a week and it still gets my knives razor sharp.
totally agree with you exactly for that it is build
I see it as paying for more time. I just spent about over an hour sharpening a few knives with my wet stones and thought I could spend that time making money or with my family... A few you tube videos later I purchased the Horl 2 Pro. Will save me a lot of time over the years.
that is also right especially when sharpening is more a task than having fun with it. Some people really enjoy the relaxing while working with a wetstone. The Horl is definitely much more easy and can save some time especially when the knives have the correct angle ground in
Hone version is better
@@stephenfrench3888 it is all preference no one is forcing you to get anything if you like hone use that if you like the horl use that
I've had the Horl pro 2 a while now. Too be honest I wish Horl would just "spit it out" Like many people the reason their knives don't cut is that the angle has been totally destroyed. The standard stones that comes on the Horl pro two, yes can cut the original angle.... but takes forever. This I believe is one of the main reasons, indeed the reason why any negative comments are raised.
"It's useless, doesn't sharpen my knives"....... well, to be honest, I agree that standard stone for re-cutting lost angles is pretty useless.
So, yes I bought the two extra stones, with strop "Premium set"..... then went on and bought the Kagami. I can now easily regrind any lost angles (with also the coarser stone I bought) and go through the range of stones up to super fine Kagami. The finer stones? Are they "essential?" No! Is the additional coarser stone required? Is it essential? Yes I really think the coarser stone is so essential it should form part of base kit. Trying to re-cut a knifes lost angle with the basic stone that comes with the Horl? Too be honest, is a time consuming nightmare. Now, after that long rant let me say, it's a good system, it's a great system. Just wish Horl would tell the truth, be honest and sell the full kit required in base kit:-
Coarse cutting stone
Standard grinding stone
Honing disc
In my book the above is the minimum you need.
Then for those super keen offer a complete package, that includes everything in base package above
Plus the two premium stones
Leather strop
Kagami super fine stone. I think the drip, drip feed of expensive add ons (coarse stone 100% essential in my mind) is being a bit miss leading at best, dishonest at worst. If we total up, total cost of say:-
Horl pro 2 and standard stones
Premium 2 stone set
Kagami stone the cost is greater than a Tormek pro 2. A Tormek pro 2 wipes the floor with this Horl system. How do I know? Easy, I have both systems. If I wanted to "play" entertain myself, I'd go with the Horl system. It's a Very, touchy "feely" effective system. It can be very, very slow.
If I wanted a system to achieve a business like, super edge to a knife, easily, speedily..... my choice would be Tormek pro 2. If your budget does not run to the Tormek pro 2...... get the Tormek 1.
Your video was very fair, objective. Good video.
@@TonysTravels2023 thanks man totally agree with your Comment. I just sharpened a Chefknife that had already there angel not even 5 minutes, but to re grind the angle it takes along time
Ive heard that the stainless steel honing side shouldnt be used with expensive knifes (something to do with the softness of the knife) as a professional whats your opinon on the honing side and when it should be used/should not?
never heard that but they have changed the stainless steel to a ceramic anyway so i couldn’t tell you if there is a problem or not
@@UberFoXthats why they probably changed it to a ceramic disc.
Great video btw. I respect your opinion!
thanks mate really appreciate it.
Good vid bud!
thanks mate
Got a knockoff horl from Temu and sharpened the cheapest knife that didnt have some coating...it did make it considerably sharper but also could see "swirly?" Marks from the sharpener rotating against it
Will not try on steak knives, old chef knife and especially not on my Kai Shun Tim Mälzer Santoku
Maaaybe with the real Horl, but they are releasing new ones so idk until horl 3 is tested
@@BertusBake yeah not sure how good the quality on the stones are on the temu version they gotta safe money somewhere.
I have tested the horl 3 pro now for ten knives and it was really good for my chefknives. The standard version is also fine if you are just sharpening once in a while.
@forgeworks3176 yeah just got it because compared to the real horl it was so damn cheap (16 euro i believe)
I was pleasantly surprised it did anything lol but yeah definitely going for the real deal soon, these things are amazingly east to use
Thanks for the quick reply mate!
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The Temu thingy did lose alot of material on the chiamond side quickly
Oy I should sleep
@@BertusBake i get the whole time commercial for them to buy them😂 i rather use the real deal💪
I just ordered the Kagami stone and the German page says 3 times finer than their current finest stone. So i guess it’s around 18000 grid. Maybe 20000 for a round number? Not sure why they don’t communicate this better.
yeah i think it would be also cool to know. But as long as it works and the knife is sharp it is not a super big deal for me personally
This is what I have been able to search and find regarding the grit numbers of the different Horl discs.
Coarse Dimond: 200
Dimond: 420
Ceramic: 1000
Fine: 3000
Extra Fine: 6000
Kagami: 9000
Is it accurate numbders? I have no idea.
@@creep_ltx that should be correct.
What do you think about Kagami stone and often do you need to use it in order to keep the knife sharp ?
How long would you say is enough on both sides? 2/3 minutes per disc?
@@Paataa10 hard to say you have to get a bur that you have to feel. The steel is then pushing over the edge and then you can de bur it. The first time you use it it takes quite a while. What i would recommend use a sharpie to mark the edge than you see a better progress
Nice into music and video.
thanks mate. Hope it was helpful
Will it sharpen Kia Shun knives set at 16 degrees?
@@DavidDougan-j1m yes but only at 15 or 20 degrees
@@forgeworks3176 Thank you.
@@DavidDougan-j1m anytime
Which additional stones do you recommend for the average kitchen knives?
The standard diamond is already really good if you wanna get it even shaper the blue and white stone is also nice. If you wanna go a cheaper route a stropping leather with a good polishing compound is also doing really well
I bought the pro! Does yours have a little bit a play with the gearing when changing directions going back and forth? Trying to decide if mine is defective or not?
mine runs pretty smoothly you can hear it when you change direction. But the gears are stopping and turning the otherway so you feel it a bit. Worst case i would always contact there customer support
I wish I was able to try those but unfortunately due to the cost I regret going with a cheaper one. By all means I’ll never claim to be good at sharpening knives and opinions are like butt holes, everyone has one. Don’t you waste your money on a Tumbler. I’ve tried dozens of times to get quality knives sharp enough to cut paper like they do in these videos and it’s not happening.
@@larrylee311 yeah the tumbler is a rip off from the horl. I used the horl now for over a couple if years and it worked really well for me. It is definitely not a must buy but a cool tool for sure
it is looks unsafe. What do you think about safety?
@@aleksandr_golikov i have used it now on over 40 knives never had a problem. I also used a wicked edge for a while this was way more dangerous. My opinion is you always have to be careful when working with sharp and pointy tools.
Can it works in 5 inch boning knife?
@@jakemorandante6795 yes but if it is more flexible it is a bit harder i think they have a good video on there page on how it works
the only "problem" is price
@@granata4 yes but it is very well build and can last you a lifetime
@@forgeworks3176 if i decide to buy one which should be better horl 2 or horl 2 pro and is pro really much better compared to the price difference
Sometimes u need to pay a bit more to get quality.. its the same in knives. I own a horl2 and it does work.. i can get a knife sharp again in 5-10 minutes. (use it with a leather strop after).
@@larsvegas1505 whetstones take less if you know what you're doing.
@@devlin2427 Yes i own a couple of stones aswell.. i do my better knives on those.. its better to just get some proper stones and a strop and learn to use them.. cost about the same as a horl (got it as a gift).
3 x times the speed means 3 x times the effort, isn't it?
@@necronlord52 i personally haven’t had an issue. I like it if i have to quickly sharpen a chefknife at home and for me it is less effort than grabbing all my sharpening stones. That is my opinion
Unless I’m just doing something wrong (which I can’t understand how) I’m very disappointed in this sharpener. For the money spent, I have $15 sharpeners that do a better job in much less time. From my understanding and research the 20 degree angle is what I should be using for most of my kitchen knives and pocket knives. I’ve sat there and rolled for up to 10 mins per side on some of my knives and it won’t even cut through paper afterwards. Really don’t understand what’s wrong but I’m about to throw this thing in the trash
have you used the sharpie method and also sharpned until you got a bure on the edge? The one down side is the sharpening in the angel that takes a while when the angel is set it is really fast
My knife is still dull.
have you sharpened it until it had a bur on the edge?
@@forgeworks3176 i think so, im more
Paranoid about taking too much off the knife
@@Ranieri69er don’t be scared you would have to sharpen along time to take to much away. You need the bur
@@forgeworks3176 yeah i bought the horl 2 due to the “ease” of it and the 5 mins job to get my knife sharp dummy proof in terms of angles and what not. Thanks for the responses and your informative videos. So basically, i need to just keep sharpening?
@@Ranieri69er yes what also helps is mark the edge with a sharpie and than you see how much how much you have to take away
nice review but get a mic please :-)
thanks mate. Definitely working one improving things. Have to get everything step by step
Looks extremely dangerous to use for stupid people.
Who needs stupid people?
Crap compared to the Hone version
maybe never test it out but they ripped the idea clearly off from them and only selling in canda and usa you know why because otherwise they would get in trouble because of the rights of the idea.
But you are a free man and you can do what ever you want
Hone = Idea Stealer