The SHOOTOUT Rolling Knife Sharpener Review! Work Sharp | HONE | Tumbler Rolling Knife Sharpener.
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- The SHOOTOUT Rolling Knife Sharpener Review! Work Sharp | HONE | Tumbler Rolling Knife Sharpener is a battle between three current main brands of rolling knife sharpeners being sold in the United States. These three are tested and examined to provide you with the final opinion of which one of these rolling sharpeners is a win. It was close between two and not even close with the third. This is an extensive shootout with tons of information on every aspect of these rolling sharpeners that you would want to know about.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
14:32 Update on Hone while filming!
17:52 Work Sharp
25:25 Out of the Box Experience
28:08 Tumbler sharpening
28:42 Work Sharp sharpening
31:31 HONE sharpening
37:51 Final opinions
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Great review! Thanks again!😊
🙏🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼
Just received my Hone plus Pro-kit which arrived 1 week earlier than forecast(!!!!!). It lives up to everything you say about it and I'm looking forward to my next sharpening session!!! BTW it has ball/roller bearings! 😊 Thanks again for the motivation! :)
@@WilHenDavis that’s awesome to hear! Now you are set to do it all.
THANK YOU for this comparison. I was about to purchase a Tumbler (which is heavily advertised) and thought 'better look for product reviews before purchasing'. You've done a great job of highlighting the pros and cons of each product. I'm going with the Hone.
You are very welcome. HONE is a solid product. Thank you so much for watching. I have more videos coming out on sharpening very small and very large knives with a rolling knife sharpener. Hope you find those helpful.
This is a very well thought out and informative comparison. It’s even better than having the three products in front of you as Jay knows what to look for better than I do and he tests the results.
Really appreciate the kind words!
Jay thank you for a very detailed review. I had already bought the Hone after your last review but was still curious. Love the Hone it’s great!! Glad I got it
Much appreciate your comment! Good to know, thanks! I'm looking forward to the 700 grit which I think is a great between 400 and 1000 without having to make such a huge jump.
Great, very well thought out, detailed, video!
Thank you very much Jeff!
Thanks Jay, I really appreciate the honest review.
My pleasure. Hope it helped.
I don't comment often, but had to on this video. Excellent explanation of the testing criteria, balanced tests for all products and clear and easy to understand. Really well done and thank you for your detailed review
Thank you very much. I really appreciate that! Means a lot, thanks.
Great review. I started wanting the Tumbler, then saw more info on the HORL, now I'm going with the HONE. Thx for the education.
My pleasure, glad you found it informative. I'll have some videos coming out on sharpening small knives and cleavers, so hope you subscribe and enjoy! Much appreciate the comment!
Thanks Jay, I really appreciate the honest review. I did purchase the Hone today!
My pleasure! Glad you could make an informed decision. I have a lot of upcoming knife sharpening videos so I hope you enjoy them.
Thanks for this video, Jay! I just bought the Hone after being bombarded by Horl and Tumbler advertising. I appreciate your thoroughness and honesty!
My pleasure, did you see the new Pro Accessories kit video I did and the full instruction guide video? You may enjoy those. Hope you subscribe as a lot more videos on rolling knife sharpening are to come!
Great content! Thanks for sharing!!!!
My pleasure, thank you so much for watching!
You asked for my opinion. I recently received my HONE sharpener and I love it. Does a great job.
Absolutely love to hear what you think. That is great news! It is fantastic! Did you get the new 3000 ceramic? To me that’s the first extra I would get, then the 700 when it’s out and then the 200.
Greatly appreciate the review! This definitely influenced my decision as to my next sharpener, goin with the Hone Thank you!
My pleasure! I just received notice that their Pro Kit is now for sale on their website and it looks great. 200, 400, 700, 1000, 3000 ceramic discs in really nice looking storage container or tin and a nice leather strop. All anyone needs for the ability to sharpen a slightly chipped and horribly dull knife to razor sharpness in a reasonable time. I’ll be doing a video next month on the pro kit as I have one on the way..AND there is HUGE announcement coming from Hone that is another first no one has done. It’s patent pending protected and I think will be epic. Stay tuned!
Thank you for a very helpful review
My pleasure. Glad it was of value.
You do good work. I feel as though I have been to a class on these three sharpeners. Certainly know all the pros and cons. Thanks for your effort
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! Thanks for watching and I hope you subscribe for more upcoming videos.
Thank you for your review. And thanks for getting it done before Black Friday deals :-) I just purchased the Work Sharp for several reasons. 20% off Black Friday deal...YEAH! They're in the U.S. where I am (easier shipping, easier contact, they're even on Amazon). They have been in business much longer. It appears from your wonderfully detailed review that the Hone may be slightly better. Still, I just need a good, easy knife sharpener for my kitchen :-) Again, thanks for your review. It helped me decide not only what brand to buy, but what kind of knife sharpener I wanted. You are appreciated :-)
My pleasure, that’s my goal to provide the information so people can make informed decisions. Check out my full instructions on using a rolling sharpener. You might like that one and hope you subscribed. Many more rolling sharpener videos to come on sharpening some challenging knives.
To reinforce your comments early in the video, whenever someone uses the term “it’s junk” I can bet their problems were either paid for (by competitors) or are user error. Typical in comments sections or Amazon reviews. 😊 There is “junk” out there, but this kind of review helps us be more informed.
Very useful comparison.
Cheers😊
Thank you so much, appreciate you watching.
Thank You for this video.
My pleasure Matt! Glad you liked it!
I've been waiting for a comparison between the Hone and the Workshop. Thanks
My pleasure! Hope it helps.
Great Review
Thank you Tina!
Thanks for you great reviews. I went into shopping for a gift and suspected the tumbler to be a low end product. I'm glad I found your reviews of the Hone, but now I'm wondering how to get the ball bearing version as I couldn't get any specifics from the manufacturer's website. Thanks!!
Hone just commented on another video stating all orders through their website directly will be the ball bearing. All are ball bearing now moving forward.
Jay thank you for your review and insight it was very well thought out and executed. For me the Hone was the clear winner. The tumbler has way too many shortfalls to even be considered. I have personally tried the work sharp and was quite disappointed. The magnets are the downfall. They need to upgrade to stronger magnets that will hold smaller kitchen knives like paring and slicing knives in place. My experience was that the blades slid down like the tumbler with smaller knives.At $44 less I’m going with the Hone for sure.
Yes the Worksharp has that "lift" on the ends but I didn't find it very helpful as my knife "barely" made it due to the angle but anything smaller you do get "the slide" as I call it. The HONE magnets are probably double the strength (just going by fee) over Worksharp but have no way to measure it, and about 10x stronger than the Tumbler.
Well based on your review of the Work Sharp Rolling K.S. a month ago, I purchased the Work Sharp just a couple of days ago on the Black Friday Sale. Your score of 63 blew me away and sold me.
Saw they dropped the price to 119.00 for that Sale. That definitely was a great price. It’s a solid choice.
This is an invredible review! I was literally about to hit go on a Tubler order, now I'm about to purchase the Hone. I have one question that you may be able to answer before I pull the trigger. Is the Hone now built standard with ball bearings? There is no upgraded model on their products page. Thank you so much for all your hard work!
Yes all HONE sharpeners now come with the Ball Bearings when ordered directly from their website. Thank you for realizing these videos take a lot of time! I have a new HONE video coming out tomorrow am focused on sharpening “small” knives on the HONE. There will be an entire series of different knives such as cleavers, brisket knives and many others coming out as well as the announcing of a new add on that will let you sharpen ANY angle knife with the HONE. Stay tuned and subscribed. Appreciate you and your comment!
great review. The home sounds interesting but, i’m sure work sharp will be coming out with upgrades as they often do
I would expect they would. Thanks for watching.
Not sure why you changed the order of the products in the 4th chapter (25 mins.) of the video. My notes got a bit messed up until I figured out what happened. All in all, very informative. Thanks to you my choice is a no-brainer! I am your newest subscriber! Mahalo!
Aloha, need to watch it, not sure! Appreciate the sub and sorry for any confusion!
I've been an enthusiast of sharp knives since I was a kid in the 1960s with pocket knives and sport knives. As an adult with more expensive kitchen knives I've learned how important the angle is. I've been using a Spyderco triangle 'stick' product since the 1980s which is meant for 20 degree edges. The knife has to be drawn 'vertically' for that. Some new knives I bought are 15 degrees, and although I can modify my motion it's approximate. I like the idea of the roller sharpeners. I appreciate very much how you compared the three models. I agree that the Hone seems a winner. I was a little surprised that the results of this video only achieved around 300 measured sharpness. I would have expected low 200's.
Hi Richard, thanks for your comment. Keep in mind 300-350 is factory sharpness and cuts very well. I also spent limited time with the sharpening. You can get down in the 100’s and in my other videos I gave taken a knife in the 50’s. The key part is honing and then stropping. Those increase the sharpness surprisingly more that folks think. The honing with ceramic gets all of the apex perfectly straight and smooths any micro abrasions while the stropping actually further polishes and sharpens that edge.
Check out my latest video where I show a massive increase in the BESS score from honing and then stropping. Every knife and every sharpening time varies as no dull knife is ever the same so the time on each grit varies. I used a method to stay consistent on every knife I will be doing a video on that takes the guess work out if you want a “do it this way every time” process. Hope you subscribe and watch my future videos. Thanks!
Great and honest review!! Actually, I bought the Hone based on your last review but I was curious to see how it did against the Work Sharp. Very glad I bought the Hone, I have also purchased the 200 grit and the 3000 grit directly from the company.
It’s a great setup. The ceramic I use all the time before each use.
How has your experience been with the Hone?
@@mattcoleman6780 I use it with the ceramic daily. Zero issues. Once you use the diamond discs and get your knives sharp you will be using the ceramic dic more than anything.
I've done about a dozen kitchen knives now. I had immediately ordered the 200 grit as over the years i had totally ruined the edges of most of my knives. Some knives took a long time to come back into shape, but now after also using the 3000 grit on them, the are "scary" sharp". 🙂 Love how easy it is to use the product reliably over time.@@mattcoleman6780
Great video! Would these work with large chef knives?
Yes you will need a cutting board and I will be doing an upcoming video on how to do this.
Helped me understand how effective rolling sharpeners are. I have a range of alternatives, purchased over a few years. Convinced enough to to try. Purchased the Hone after watching this. Thanks. Looking forward to experiencing this new method of sharpening.
Glad to hear it. They are extremely effective and simple for anyone which is what I love. You just need to know the angle of your knife and are good to go! Have you seen all my other HONE videos on different knives?
I am familiar with angles from my collection from field knives, high end folders to kitchen. Will check again on your channel for more focused vidoes.
@@edcurtis7225 great then make sure to get the AngleMate accessory and you can do any angle whether 12, 15, 17, whatever.
I was on the verge of ordering Work Sharp...I have a few of their sharpeners...good stuff...after watching your video twice I ordered the HONE.
I had a email conversation with Hone...they answered all my questions...told them your well made videos got them my business.
Glad I could help. Work Sharp is a great company with great people and I have reviews on some of their sharpeners. I love many of them and use them as well, but HONE has just nailed the manual rolling sharpener in many ways that I really like as well as the innovative double discs to provide more value for customers. Hone’s two new accessories coming out continues to provide customers with a total “system”.
This is definitely a quality sharpener I really enjoy. I have a lot of HONE videos out, just released a new one today and many more to come. Appreciate the comments and your subscription. Don’t forget to hit that notification bell to see all the great info to come. Cheers!
What do you think about 15 degree with a 20 degree micro bevel?
I wish Hone had a 17 degree.
I play ukulele as well.@@UkuleleJayBBQ
@@mickeydavis4204hang tight on that. Their new any angle mod is coming out. You will be able to do 17°. I have never done a micro bevel as I still am not sure of the benefit as I know there are many opinions on it
I occurred to me...if you are right handed with knife on 15 degree angle side...lift the left side of the block 2 degrees ...you will be at 17 degrees...haven't got my Hone yet but used my Kline digital angle finder on similar size cardboard box...17 degrees.
@@mickeydavis4204 does it slide move putting cardboard under the rubber?
I have the Worksharp sharpener. I bought two extra ceramic disks. I adhered lapping film cut to fit. This gives me all the grits I could need or want from 80 grit to over 64,000 grit.
How do you adhere and remove the film. Great idea. I use lapping film with my Work Sharp Precision Adjust Elite.
Great work on the comparisons. As a home cook with little experience I like the roller style sharpeners for the simplicity & I really have no desire to go down the sharpening rabbit hole. If I can keep them close to factory sharp that seems acceptable.
That is exactly who this is designed for. I got really into sharpening and went down the rabbit hole, turned left and came up and now have multiple sharpeners, leather strops, compounds and I have a new on that just arrived (I am getting into knife polishing, removing scratches, refurbishing...so the hole seems to have no end ;-) You'll get much better than factory sharp with this. Factory is 300-350 on the BESS tester and my knives are all in the 100's with the hone. Nearly double edge razor sharp as I showed on several of my videos.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ just curious what u have done with the "many" 17° blades you have since the Hone doesnt offer that profile. I believe my Victorinox chefs knife is 17° as well. It would be nice if they offered block with 4 different angles or at least an aftermarket option with additional angels.
@@ordinary_average_guy HONE is releasing an accessory within a few weeks (last I was updated) that will allow you to do ANY angle with it's magnetic base. It's genius! I'll be doing the unveiling video and then a full tutorial on how to use it. They also have another accessory coming that is brilliant! No one else has these so another first for HONE for the rolling knife sharpening community.
I love their innovation. Keep that notification bell on! ;-)
I currently use the Tormek T-1 for all my power sharpening and power honing at 17º.
Really would love to see you compare the different versions of the HORL
HORL did not provide me a unit when I spoke to them. I would have to test the model with the interchangeable disc. Just got notice today that the HONE Pro Kit is selling. 200, 400, 700, 1000, 3000 ceramic and nice leather strop. I will be doing an in depth video of it’s use after receiving the kit. Probably a next month video as I have other videos in line on sharpening various knives. Hope you subscribe and watch!
This was very helpful! Thank you for doing this video, I feel confident with making an investment in the Hone sharpener now. I was surprised to see it not be the most expensive, good news for me!
Yes they have really nailed the price point. They want to put a high quality affordable product in peoples hands. Very hard to do these days in any business. They have a few new things coming soon that are brilliant.
Do the discs from the Hone fit on the Work Sharp? If so I think I'll go with the Work Sharp since it comes with everything for a lower price and then just buy the extra grit plates I need from Hone's website.
Unfortunately not. Just enough difference they don’t work.
Thanks for the video. I was able to cancel my order for a Tumblr set and instead order the much better Hone set.
My pleasure. I released a series of Hone videos I hope you enjoy. Many more to come for various knives as well as the new any angle accessory along with another accessory in the works.
Great video, Jay, thanks! Out of curiosity, which type of knife sharpener is your favorite (whetstone, rolling, power like the Worksharp Ken Onion Edition Knife & Tool Sharpener, etc.)?
So hard question, I have four. The Tormek T1 is always on my counter and used the most in my kitchen daily due to the power honing wheel that is already made with compound and 600 grit diamond wheel. I love the Work Sharp Precison Adjust Elite for my Japanese knives and on the road, I toss my Hone in my bag. Also the Ken Onion is awesome with the adapter and does require some skill so I recommend practicing with the $5 knives in my Amazon store. I used to use whetstones but rarely use them anymore. I also have a Work Sharp 3 Way (I did a review on) this is my favorite “camping” guided sharpener as it lets me sharpen at any angle or my lap which can’t be done with other style of sharpeners.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Awesome, thanks for sharing :) It's hard choosing which style I might like best without actually using all of them! I don't mind my whetstone, but prefer something faster most of the time.
@@csdavis13 that’s exactly how I felt. It gets to be a rabbit hole I found. I tell everyone you have to make the decision as it’s like a car. You can drive a Hyundai which will get you there or a Lamborghini. One just gets you there faster and looks better aesthetically but both will get you there eventually. 😎
Hone could accommodate 17 degree knives by engineering a 2 degree steel wedge. You attach the thin wedge to the 15 degree side and voila. Would require some accurate machining as 2 degrees is thin, and thickness might affect magnetic attraction to the knife, but won’t know until you give it a shot. Sounds like Hone’s magnets will handle a wedge. Just an idea! 😊
@@tommyrq180 thanks Tommy. I know Hone is working on something that will let you use the existing base to sharpen any side, but I have not seen anything yet. There must be something no one has thought about yet, but that's what I love about the evolution of products. Some amazing minds out there, putting out something and then improving it and making it even more functional. You would need to use a flat magnet which does exist as it would stick to the HONE with one side (+ or -) and the opposite side would be magnetic to grab the knife. I think there is probably an easier way but haven't figure that out ;-)
I'm gonna buy the workshop rolling sharpener next week. Do you think the workshop rolling sharpener will work good on Spyderco folding knives.
I don’t own a Spyderco but as long as you sharpen the correct angle it will sharpen just fine. It is a good sharpener.
Excellent review, my only quibble is that I’d time all the actions involved in sharpening, because that’s what would happen you were sharpening as a job. Not timing the removal, testing for a burr, replacing the blade and changing disks doesn’t give at true reflection of how long to expect it’ll take.
Time varies greatly depending on so many factors. I am going to be doing a video with a stop watch going that will have very little narrative as the other videos are there. However there are numerous factors with every sharpening including primary and secondary burr considerations. Do you have a feather edge, your root burr, positive and negative burrs. There is an entire book on this which would be impossible to video. Unfortunately there is no magic time. Your metal on the knife also makes a huge difference. Is it VG10, X50CrMov15 etc. I am trying to keep it high level but will eventually be doing some deeper dives.
I just recieved my Hone on November 24th. How do I tell if I have the Washer set-up or the Ball Bearing set-up?
When you roll it back and forth it is nearly silent. If you hear rubbing then you have the nylon washer but does nothing to the functionality or lifespan. I have both types and they are identical in how sharp they get a knife. Great unit!
Results feel rigged a bit to me. There was no statistical difference between the sharpening performance of the Hone and the Worksharp. They should get the same rating. Value also doesn't make sense as the Worksharp is cheaper to get everything you need so it should have rated higher or equal to the Hone. Build quality is really subjective. Metal isn't always better. You need to do actual drop tests to compare. You might find the Hone's metal body bends causing it to bind while the nylon of the worksharp is tougher and bounces but does not deform.
The only area I see superiority in the Hone is it super strong magnets that might hold a smaller blade better though I did not experience any blade slippage with the Worksharp.
You also didn't take into account the extra angles available on the Worksharp which is more important than having in-between grades of abrasives.
If I had money to throw away, I would choose the more expensive one, but the workshop seems like a very blue collared anybody can afford knife sharpener. For that reason I went with the workshop.
Still a good sharpener that works.
I have the work sharp and I might just have to buy the Hone block so I can do smaller knives. That’s the most frustrating part about the WS block.
Agree it is one area I pointed out that doesn’t seem to really work. When Hone releases their any angle accessory then you can do really small knives and any angle. I want to convert a few of my pocket knives to 17° as they are light weight things like opening package deliveries, charcoal bags, etc.
If the hone had a 17 degree angle id buy it. Im going with the worksharp
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Overall a good comparison. But your preference for the Hone was evident. While you did mention, briefly, the four sharping angles available in the Work Sharp verses only two angles on the Hone you did not include that metric in your scoring. To me, that difference in available angles is a big deal. So I would give Work Sharp extra points for that.
It would have been a big add if the Horl was included, even if you had to buy it.
Just wanted to highlight that it was intentional to provide small knife slots on two sides and not provide two additional angles on the Knife Holder. We believe that small knife option is critical for our users. Our HONE AngleMate will be launched on our website in about 2 weeks at a very affordable price. It will allow 8 additional angle options (including 17 degrees) separately for big and small knives using the Knife Holder that comes with the HONE Knife Sharpener. We still believe that HONE knife sharpening system is offering the best value and functionality for the money. Also, please don’t forget to appreciate double sided diamond discs and our much superior #3000 Ceramic Disc which should last forever. In addition, knife stability during sharpening is unmatched due to much bigger and stronger magnets and bigger back support. Sharpening process is completely useless if the knife is not rock solid during the sharpening process. Even a slight movement during the sharpening process will not result in a perfect edge. I hope these points are helpful!
Does the 3000 disc perform as a final sharpening, and/ or do you use it in place of a standard honing steel?
Hi Greg, yes the 1000 would be the last diamond disc I would use and then I would use the 3000 ceramic as my final stage with the sharpener. I also finish off with a leather strop which even further polishes and sharpens the apex which I have a video showing this with my leather strop.
Sorry I am confused. Are there 2 3000 discs? One is cera.ic, and another And for honing do you just use the ceramic and not a regular sharpening steel?
@@gregwilliams2066 there is currently a 3000 ceramic. Sorry. I meant to type 1000. The diamond disc is 1000 but they are releasing a 2000 Diamond disc. You only use the 3000 ceramic to Hone your knife before or after every few uses.
did you measure the sharpness of each knife before your started sharpening? It seems like that could make a difference in the final results.
Yes they were all the same. All were brand new and all were dulled with the same process and BESS scores with 10g.
Have you heard yet when the ball bearing Hone will be available to purchase? It’s not listed on web site yet anyway.
They will all be ball bearings as they continue production. You can write Hone and see. Both work identical, just the tactile feel but it is really nice!
@UkuleleJayBBQ I will inquire with them first then, like you say "everybody loves ball bearings" and I may revert to the Work Sharp just for that difference otherwise . They both seem pretty nice I guess. Your reviews have been wonderful!
@@brembofly thank you! I am sure if you requested it you will get it from Hone.
We are shipping ball bearings version for all orders placed on our website
@@HONE-Knife-Sharpenerwhens the new stuff coming out?
Good reviews. Caveat being that without a Horl review the shootout is incomplete. 😢
I attempted to have them send one but they were not interested. Appreciate you watching the review!
Has hone released the ball beating version yet
Yes all of them are now Ball Bearing ordering from their website. Smooth as silk.
A work around for the tumbler sliding down could be throw a couple small washers on it below. If you already purchased one. Because that would be really annoying
It would be hard as the sharpener has to roll back and forth so nothing can stick out to the blade edge.
I'm curious why you left out the sharp test for the Work Sharp sharpener. for me the most important thing was to know how sharp is the knife compared to the other two knives sharpeners.I happen to know watching your personal Workshop only review test for the sharpness you said in that video that it was a number 68 on the sharpness scale the other to sharpeners you tested in the role rolling knife shootout we're at least 200. That sounds to me like a very significant difference in sharpness.
I’m sorry you didn’t actually watch the entire video. It was not left out. It was very clearly tested and the results shown. You can scroll to 36:10 for the test of the Work Sharp.
What about the Horl? It is much more expensive so is it worth it
Hi there, worth is how you feel about your purchase. So I can’t comment on other peoples feelings and if they feel their purchase was worth it to them.
However, I can tell you that the HORL base unit with all the attachments (6 grits) and leather strop will run around $520 US using the HORL oak model which is their base model to interchange discs.
The HONE with all the attachments (5 grits),tin grit holders, and a leather strop will run you $245.
Work Sharps 3 disc base system is about the same price as HONE’s base system as of the time of this response.
Hope that helps in your decision?
Does the hone kit have a plate that hones the blades,?
The Pro Accessories kit has the honing disc yes.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ okay cool, I ordered the set and the 3000 ceramic disk comes with it. Just wanted to make sure that’s the honing
@@user-sb9dk7ls9o yes that is the honing disc. If you do that after every use you should not have to use the diamond plates as often. Depends on how heavy of use you do with your knives.
Like....a LOT!
Thank you so much!
Just out of curiosity, I would like to know why the HORL2 was not included? Thank you.
They chose not to provide a unit for testing. Thanks for asking.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Thank you.
@@mattcoleman6780 my pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@@UkuleleJayBBQ No problem. I think I'm probably gonna go with the Hone.
@@mattcoleman6780 it’s definitely a solid choice.
Best reviewer, too bad I can’t get the hone or work sharp, and I’m not paying for Horl
+@Stevedawhoop thank you. Is that based on where you live (not U.S. or Canada) ?
@@UkuleleJayBBQ yes, hone only ship in US and Canada while worksharp is US and Guam
@@Stevedawhoop ok tnx.
I’d rather buy the original (Horl) rather than these copycat products and believe quality is worth paying for.
Quality is worth paying for.
Hmmm, I'm not sure you did something correctly with the worksharp rolling knife sharpener. In a video I saw before it had a review on it, no cuts, and not even a strop I believe, and he was able to get the knife to paper towels with ease. Of course it might just be the type of knife.
Unfortunately, I don't see the HONE anywhere to buy
Https://honesharp.com should work.
I'm a little mystified about your sharpening procedure. You're raising a burr on one side, which is great, but then you're doing the other side and reporting that there's now no burr on either side. That's not how it should be. You should find a burr on the opposite side when you sharpen the second side. You can minimize the burr by alternating single passes before moving on to the next higher grit.
Also, you suggest that higher edge angles produce better edge retention, which is incorrect. As long as the steel is hard enough to support a lower angle (i.e., the edge isn't rolling), the lower angle will always have better edge retention than a higher angle.
To bad hone doesnt do holiday special or discount. 😅
Our sincere apologies for not offering holidays special. We strive to provide the highest quality at the best possible price to our truly valued customers. Doing so, doesn’t provide us any room for specials or discounts. You must have noticed that we are continuously making upgrades but keeping the price static 😀
Will...the upgrades just keep adding $$ to the unit. Not by a little either, 135 for the pro accessories + the roller 105 equal to 240usd. That close to some of the clamp style system out there. 😅
Seems that you say WE when talking about the HONE. Hummm....
How about cutting your own discs when the grit becomes worn? Sheets of whatever you need available at any hardware store, use the supplied discs as a pattern, trace, snip snip snip, glue, job done! 😉
Would not work as these are manufactured with a diamond coating impregnated into the steel. I guess if you knew how to do the diamond process nothing would stop you. I bet it cost more than just buying a disc. These discs will last a very long time. Not sure it’s worth the cost and effort. I’ll just fork over the 20 bucks😂
As a product designer and involved in product development for 30 years (with a dozen+ patents), it is disgusting to see all three of these rolling sharpeners blatantly rip-off the HORL design. It does not surprise me they refused to send a sample for your shootout. Hone may have added some improvements, but the basic concept (including bearings) is still HORL.
Appreciate your comment! Thanks for watching.
Sometimes though, patents are overreaching and used to stifle competition and prevent product improvements. Look no further than Future Motion clamping down hard against right-to-repair on their OneWheel and threatening legal action against superior products from competitors, who are forced to sell only DIY kits or via crypto.
In this case, the competiting sharpeners seem different enough that they probably wouldn't be considered violating a strict interpretation of the original patent.
@@h8GW I think many are for intellectual property protection but that does not mean you cannot use a concept or idea and make it better. It’s done all the time. I just report what I find 👍🏼 Agree they are also used to shut down things. It’s a very complex world with IP.
@@h8GW After spending $125k minimum, and 1-2 decades developing a product, one might want to protect that effort. The entire POINT of a patent is to protect the idea for 18-20 years. There is no such thing as over-reach in IP, and stifling copy-cats is the entire point. A well written patent application includes as many alternative/innovative ideas one can conceive. A patent requires proving that you have improved-upon a previous idea (prior art). WS may have sidestepped that with thier double wheel feature, but the rest of the rolling sharpener principle is intact in all the blatant copies. HORL has the IP on thier side to shut down everyone, so long as they can afford the years of court & IP lawyers it will cost them. Look up Philo Farnsworth or Robert Kearns and see how that worked out. Right to repair (One Wheel) is a very different thing. And if you can prove to the Patent examiners that your IP is actually an improvement, superior method etc.., BUT you have to acknowledge the prior art in the process of those claims. A patent is nothing more than the right to sue, or be sued if you have infringed. It takes 2 years minimum now to get a patent awarded. Some take a decade @$400-$800/hr patent lawyer fees.
Horl took a design already been designed and made it to meet modern tech. Hone took it and made the base better and made changing the disc earlier.
We steal expired patent and make it better with better tech.
All that time on damn knives😢
What you came for is at 41:30 you’re welcome…
When you think you're being more helpful than you really are on a video with timestamps...
You talk too much. To get to the point, I stopped the video 4 minutes in.
Can’t make everyone happy! Have great day!
agreed. Have a blessed day. @@UkuleleJayBBQ
Nice job, however again, you are speaking way too fast! Take a breath for heavens sake!
+@WilHenDavis I edit to cut out all the gaps to keep things moving. Good advice though, definitely and area to work on . I do talk fast as my brain is always a step ahead 😎 appreciate your comment and thanks for watching.
You could have said that in a little more polite manner but you did not. He is not charging you for the advice by the way.
This should've been under 15 minutes buddy.
Thanks for your comment! Too late now😎
Horl is the original you are supporting scammers
Calling anyone a scammer who takes a concept or an idea, and makes it better is not a scammer, especially when they have made or modified parts that provide new or additional functionality that another product does not provide. That is called innovation and competition which is good. I guess Verizon, AT&T an T-Mobile are all scammers, as well as Apple, Google, and everybody else in the world all scammers, shut them all down. Hope you are not driving a Ford because everybody else is a scammer for copying him, right?
@@UkuleleJayBBQ Actually I'm German and driving a Benz which is the real first automobile which a quick google search would have instantly told you. Another German product americans stole and claimed they invented it, great example smh
@@The_Dude_420 so HORL didn’t steal the concept from the original 1947 Patent of the first publicly documented Rolling knife sharpener by (Willis) W.F Thompson in the U.S.?
People love making accusations which I find fascinating. Surprised your Google prowess didn’t find that patent. Smh 2x
Taking someone else’s “design” and making it better legally is innovation. W.F. Thompson’s rolling knife sharpener was filed May 2, 1947. Probably time to make a video showing the patent and invention of the very first rolling knife sharpener and viewers can be the judge.
My official statement is even if HORL did use that design, that is called Innovation, so I classify them as Innovators by improving and modifying the original Inventors patent which expired. Thanks for your comment.