My Dream Shop Ep-40: Using a SMART Vapor Barrier to be EFFICIENT
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2024
- In this episode of building my Dream Shop, I will be using a smart vapor barrier to make RRHQ super efficient. I share the details for air and vapor control using siga majrex as well as other amazing products like fentrim and rissan. All the insulation in the world won't help if you don't control your air and vapor properly.
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I love seeing the CEO out here on his knees paying attention to the method you've found works best for your use case. Guaranteed that guy brings notes back to the office
If only more CEO and sales managers visited projects to learn their product and how end users applied the products and took time to share with the engineering side of development we could be much more efficient and have many more great products available with tested application methods. Otherwise we have bean counters worrying about profits of the company instead of the products performance and application methods and a company just trying to sell a product with a high margin of profit without any care if the product can preform as stated in their literature. The fact that higher up SIGA reps showed up to gain some input to take back to the business and hopefully R&D persons is a good start.
True. And Cobalt, unfortunately that’s not gonna happen. Those desk jockeys don’t care. They think because they went to school they’re smarter than us field guys.
Practical field knowledge is way more valuable than paper knowledge. And again, unfortunately these companies don’t see that and never give any of us a shot because we don’t have a piece of paper to show them.
@@JASPACB750RRI wouldn’t necessarily say field knowledge is more valuable, but equally as valuable. The best installer in the world can’t install if those desk guys don’t keep procurement happening, the money going where it needs, and providing strategic expansion to grow the products. That being said, an administrative knowledge is excessively misguided without the practical knowledge of real world application and use. Same the other way. The field guys should understand at least on a high level the point of what goes on in the office. The office grows the company to let the field do the work.
The CEO showing up and not only working, but taking the time to learn your process, listen, and teach about the product is really outstanding. I wish more builders mimicked RR and more CEO’s were like this guy. Great video.
Kudos to the video editor for that dramatic music while Kyle was talking to the Siga North America CEO. I found that quite funny.
a tat loud tho
Love this !! Greatest thing in video was the CEO telling you how you have such a GREAT attention to DETAIL 👊 thats why i started watching !! Thanks Kyle
what an incredible collaboration. The CEO of a major company on hands and knees getting direct feedback on best practice methods for his products. It does not get any better than this. incredible build, incredible builders incredible manufacturer and product.
Lol that music over him pouring his heart out and the CEO just being like "Ok dude I get it" look on his face. Priceless.
I love the cheesy inspirational music during the thank you. But real talk, there are a ton of DIYer and pro builders who learn from you so Etienne’s influence on you hopefully makes a huge positive impact on quality building methods in the US
LOL... I was waiting for Kyle to break out in song, "The hills are alive, with the sound of nailguns...."
That was pure Bromance music 😂
That was good. I couldn't tell if the music was playing Kyle off stage or if it was a budding bromance, but either way it got a chuckle from me. Excellent work, Kyle and Greg and I can't remember your videographers name (Michael?) or who made that editing choice.
Kudos to the SIGA CEO. It's nice to see executives get out and work with their product. 👍🏻
I cannot wait to see what blower door numbers Kyle can get in a building with a garage door and what he does to try and air seal the garage door.
Great video it’s nice to see someone work on fixing problems, then not worrying about them. The bottom tape, maybe making a squeegee with a notch in it to keep everything uniform. That looks like a very good product. You make great videos on how to properly build something I’ve been following you for years. From the very first video, I seen you pull out the offset snips I knew you knew what you were doing. I’ve been doing sheet metal for 41 years and you are on the right track on making things look good and watertight. Greg is lucky to have a teacher like you and you are lucky to have a student like Greg keep up the good work. One thing do you have a filter on the backside of that heater to filter the air in the building I see you guys sweeping, keep your lungs clear for a long life . we need to keep good workers like you two around.
Kyle, you and Greg have put so much TLC into your shop project, no doubt Etienne was impressed. When it’s done, your shop will be huge and gorgeous. Looking forward to seeing you smile and crack a beer or however you’ll celebrate. 🎉
Having a CEO actually get in the field and work with the product instead of showing up, watch and then leave speaks volumes about the company. He’s a believer in the product he represents, cares about the performance and gets real life criticism from people who actually install it besides in a controlled lab. I can easily get behind a company and buy their product when having a CEO like that.
Exactly! He is the real deal and so is Siga
wow--what a great video with y’all. i’m so impressed by etienne’s team taking the time to show up and help you introduce and educate us viewers about that siga majrex. it looks like an amazing product! plus, you made it look beautiful. your exchange about effort to output toward pursuing excellence was insightful. i really appreciate that extra time you put toward not just perfecting your craft but also sharing with us how to do it, too. it’s one of the main reasons i watch your videos.
This has been a great series, really looking forward to seeing the finished product! I will say watching you crawl around on the concrete without kneepads in the beginning makes my knees ache lol
Loving the concept of a full envelope inside the building I am definitely anticipating the airflow test you talked about.
Love the energy Étienne brang in the video!
I’d love to see how you seal up garage doors! Mine are the leakyiest’ thing about my shop.
Thats what makes this overkill. I haven't been following this build but I assume a shop has large overhead doors which is going to negate the use of these products. The flip side is that he's not paying for the siga products if the rep is there. The amount of time wrapped up in these details cannot be ignored. Energy efficiency = good but I think the payback is not going to be realized in his lifetime.
As your shop sits right now, it’s 10 times better than 95% of the houses being built in Louisiana, hands down. You would flip out and loose your 💩 at what passes code for new construction here. For instance, the builder that built my house, tried to use 3-1/2” insulation in all the 6” walls!! I told his subs to leave and I spent all weekend fixing and redoing all that. They ran out of insulation and ripped the 3-1/2 in half and shoved the halves in the wall cavities. I wish I could post the pictures!! Anyway man, your attention to detail makes me think about my jobs details before I do them.
More like 95% of all north american homes. We are ridiculously behind European home builders.
So impressive. Those tapes are really sticky. So helpful to see how to progressively remove the backing while applying the tape so as not to get tape stuck to tape.
2:59 descending scissorlift is pure satisfaction
The music during the romantic interlude was the perfect touch❤
This is such an awesome build to follow, and that siga looks damn good on the walls!
When trying to fold the tape at the bottom, a suggestion would be to push a straight edge between two post right above where you attached the 1/4 fold, then the entire bay of barrier is in line with the posts. Then you just fold and stick the tape down.
That was my thought too. I was honestly surprised Kyle didn't think of that when he brought over the 2x to see if it sat flush, he normally has tricks for just about everything.
You guys are the poster boys of quality!
Thanks brother we do our best
QUALITY SELLS ITSELF
ALL DAY LONG!!!
Outstanding! ✌🏻
I used Siga on an exterior remodel. We used a house wrap, Dupont drain wrap, and their tape for openings and seams. Also used Siga for the sheathing seams. The Dupont tape was expensive junk. The Siga we had left and used on half or more of the openings and house wrap seams worked WAY BETTER! Weatherlogic or similar products along with Siga is 100% the way to go!
I love the music being so loud you can barely hear the sincere thank you.
Only you guys could make hanging vapor barrier entertaining for 45mins.
Definitely a very nice product and quality workmanship. It's something I would expect in an oversized $1.2 million dollar garage.
Enjoyed seeing you at IBS! great presentation thanks for the picture! Love you and Greg’s work!!
That was a great video! Always impressed by Siga’s products. Even more impressed now with the CEO and head of sales coming and especially working.
Great video, great seeing a CEO getting stuck in and keen to keep going…respect.
adding a steel angle on the concrete of even just 5cm to contain the insulation between the columns would probably help you fit the tape perfectly into the corner creating a perfectly straight line to the columns.
congratulations for the tidy, clean and precise work
It's "good enough for who it's for", one might say it's overkill for a shop. I'd be living in there!! 👍
My house could fit in this shop, I actually think most Norwegian houses would fit in this shop
I will spend a lot of time here I want it as good as I can do
Premiers during the International Builders Show so the CEO of Siga NA can get a bit of an edge on the other CEO’s of building products… yep, I have installed my product and know it is the best (shows QR code for a link to this video).
Fun video Kyle. Hi Greg.
Wasn’t even planned haha
@@RRBuildingsAmerican houses and buildings are glorified shanty towns from Africa in the way there built. Pretty crazy when you compare them to European buildings in England and parts of Europe we use stills and brick. None the less use are great craftsman.
That's a very clean installation. Good job Kyle and crew.
Oh I see. Greg was mad when you were using his red Martinez hammer to scrape up foam, but HE is back there hammering on concrete. Seems about right.
I noticed and was thinking is he using Kyle’s hammer.
It's scripted dude.
lol there is no script
He seemed like a fun Guy!
I hope you Guys took him out for a few Beers!
Great laugh too!😅
Great video, Kyle! The tips and tricks are gold. I know plenty will say this is overkill for a "shop," but not everyone appreciates what some of us call our "shop." I have been eyeing using the SIGA product on my build. Trying to find it locally is the challenge as freight for those rolls is ridiculous!
You are so perfectionist that you could be a typical Swiss watchmaker. Great to see the Swiss quality Siga company and a competent Swiss CEO. Grüessli us dä Schwiiz und hopp Schwiiz 🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭
I would put a tape first, from the concrete to the post, then put the vapor barrier. Sems like its easier to tape the concrete first then after when you have to be that precisely. Love the content, it is likely the same way we build houses in Sweden. Keep it up!
I usually tape the majrex down to the concrete after I have installed the first board. Then i know ill get i right between the post. Greate vid!
Its all in the detail, great work.
Great episode. So many nice little details and seeing the head of Siga and hearing what he had to add. Awesome. The details are what makes it!
Beauty product and mint install!
I’d love to see a blower door follow by an aero barrier application and see how much it changes by. Matt Risinger did a cool video on this a few years ago.
Beard is looking fantastic brother. I’m fixin to lay metal this weekend. Your videos keep inspiring me. Thanks for all the content!
you can get a caulk for majrex and other vapor barriers, that can be used on most if not all surfaces. its sticky as heck and never dries. it looks to be a much simpler and more forgiving install than the tape, on the bottom where you are sealing to concrete
Love watching you guys work together! Been a fan for a long time. Nice to see the CEO of a massive company showing up and putting in some work. We use a lot of Siga products here in Norway, quick question: Wouldn't it be easier to use the Siga Sicrall tape (the yellow one) for those long straight tape joints? I thought Rissan was the flexible tape used more around openings and such.
It’s that 20 minutes a day turns into an extra month of work and effort a year.
And at the end of 5 years you will be better than 99% of the rest who didn’t.
I believe Jacko, Goggins, and Lovell from WPS all live by that code.
Well Goggins code is an extra 20 hours a day. That dude is legit from another planet with his determination, effort, dedication, willpower, and both mental and physical fortitude.
The irony, you said to stick around as you’re holding a role of tape 😆 I’m enjoying following this build!
Can't wait to see the next stages. Very curious how you'll be detailing any (?) penetrations... I assume fastening the inside surface material, whatever you use, will punch through into the studs, but like Zip sheathing, will self heal and stay sealed. Super interesting. Thanks for walking us through.
@RR Buildings I'm a MEP guy that has been in building since I was a kid helping me dad with his small company doing aluminum siding and roofing. I love geeking out over the way you detail these buildings out. Since this is your own shop you should take the opportunity to do a video on the decisions you have made regarding your choices for building mechanicals. I see a lot of people missing opportunities to rough things in because they haven't thought ahead about how the finished product will be used. Also they neglect to future proof their building for growth. As contractors we sometimes take for granted that things will happen a certain way because we have had a lot of experiences that have guided us. For a person that has never built anything before the blank canvas can be overwhelming and a lot of things can get missed. For example adding ceiling fans to keep the warm air from becoming stratified up against the ceiling, if your electric panel is recessed in the wall run a few extra conduits up to the ceiling to make adding to the panel later a lot easier.
Great idea
Love this wall system. It's nicely air and weather sealed with a good amount of insulation (looks to be about R-30 nominal). This would be a very nice (somewhat) affordable wall system for a home, but it seems overkill for a shop, to be honest.
Yo Team RR building, this post shows the truth to the saying "life is a harsh teacher because, you always get the test before the lesson" I thought it was a top result
Love the music intro for the Siga reps - classic....
As always, great info and details!!
Good dudes all around. Nice work as always 💯
it looks great guys.first thing I would build is a jig to hold that roll on the side of the lift so you just have to unroll it.save Gregs arms.
I'm just thinking about, if the CEO of my company will show up in our shop and helps me forklifting pallets and stacking beer crates, literally working with me, I guess he would crouch back to his limousine and heading back to the HQ and never show up again...
🤣🤣🤣
Great to see Etienne help you for real and listen to his lovely swiss accent!
What a cool guy!
👍👍👍
About 14:40 I WAS wondering about electrical, then just before you commented about it I realized, basically a "commercial" building/garage area. So surface mount metal conduit and electrical boxes it is!
For me surface mounted conduit is the only way to wire a shop. Then it is super easy to make changes as equipment is replaced or added.
@@dougdiplacido2406 I agree 110% with that. My dream shop/garage is going to be through oversized metal conduit as will be the basement and possibly the attic of my next home.
Now I'm confused as hell about this. It almost looks like I'm replying to myself here LMFAO
Kyle is installing another wall in front of the existing wall, this wall will house the elictrical I believe....
It will get another layer of 2x material, wiring will have a huge 1 1/2 channel.
Great job!!!
Awesome stuff! And an awesome CEO I must say... Wow! Hands on buddy! 😁👍🏼😁👍🏼😁👍🏼
Awesome dude
The amount of air sealing right next to a giant garage door bay is wild.
SIGA Majrex 200 is a 12mil vapor control layer. When using their adhesive tape it’s best to apply pressure by using a roller.
Great stuff fellas!
very nice!! Wished they had this when I did my shop!
Excellent!
Overall, if everyone would take their jobs as serious as you do, we’d all be in such a better place! I had a boss tell me all the time, “we’re not building the Taj Mahal!” You think the builders of the Taj Mahal said something that stupid? If you put effort into anything go all the way, because you know you did your best and can also learn from every situation to get better. I really appreciate RR’s commitment to excellence!
Thanks man I agree just do your best
I didn't use majrex on my last build but I did use fentrim to secure zip sheathing to concrete foundation. Really good tape product.
it's awesome
Very, very interesting video guys!!
Good stuff guysl
Great to meet you Kyle at the NBS show in Las Vegas at the RockWool booth.
You too man
seems like a great company. def good products so we deceided to use all of these products on our barndo build. thanks
CEO better be there. It's a free nation wide commercial sales. I would be jumping if a company who backs their products showed up at my building. 😊
I'm definitely going to use the same building materials as you are so far except that I'll be using ICF for my foundation.
Il nastro verde sigma é fantastico per la riparazione delle giacche da lavoro ( oltre ad essere spettacolare per la nastratura dei teli )
Thanks for a great video.
can you do a cost benefit analysis, including labor costs, for having spray foam vs the hand installed insulation plus the vapor barrier?
It's not always cost.
For this type construction with exterior air barier,spray foam would have to be open cell which has less R-value than closed.
Over time as framing cycles with moisture and temperature ,it typically breaks loose.
Spray foam can also cause major issues if the temperature or mix is off when spraying occurs.
It most certainly could be closed cell normal spray foam. It would provide a complete exterior air barrier.
The question is correct, cost benefit and value. This current approach is not affordable for anyone who would have to pay for all materials and labor.
The half-life of spray foam also means the best performance occurs when it is installed, and you get decreasing performance with time
This is something most people miss or haven’t been educated about. I def need to add this to my spray foam vs Rockwool video
The musical heart felt soliloquy really hit me in the feels! lmao
I'm excited
The music was hilarious! Nice touch 😂
just to try and add to the pros of this stuff i feel like by sealing the entire building in the myrex, you are also creating a dust barrier from the rockwool and improving the quality of air in the building too by further separating yourself from materials that put off dust, i know youll be doing framing and such but the myrex should be enough that no matter what happens there wouldnt be airborne insulation floating around... its kind of like how i feel like ever since i had a drop ceiling put in in the one room in mah house that after being in there for a few hours my nose gets stuffy becuase of the partical board just makes the air quality worse whenever im in that room
I used acoustic caulk instead of tape to seal the vapor barrier. It's cheap and easy. Curious on your thoughts on pros/cons vs the tape.
Siga kicks everything else's butt's!
Comments from people that think it’s not worth the effort clearly shows how condition our society is. People don’t understand the idea/sense of what quality looks like.
Interesting insulation method. I wonder though if all the extra labor offsets any savings from just doing the spray foam. I get this is your own labor and maybe that makes the difference. Spray foam would give the air barrier and insulation value in one shot plus give additional wall rigidity.
Would you put this on interior residential bathrooms like behind showers as well? What about after it's drywalled and there is a bunch of nail holes piercing the drywall and majrex over the years? Doesnt seem like any good way to patch for that.
On that day, Etienne learned what a fish mouth was and he will never, ever, do it again. This shop is going to be so comfortable. Well done guys!
Going to be interesting to see how the garage door seal is done. You’re only as strong as the weakest link. All this detailed sealing is great but damn garage doors always leak.
No electrical/plumbing in any of these exterior walls? Seems strange to fully insulate before you have your MEP’s come in and rough those walls out? Love the vids.
Good morning 👍👌👍
This is going to be a super building. However, most folks are not going to be able to afford the cost of these materials and labor to install. You will also have little chance of finding a crew as skilled as RR with their work ethic. A DIY guy can take some of this and install what his budget can afford.
When you were thanking the CEO and that music started in the background, I was imagining Greg, out of camera shot, playing the piano whilst smiling like Stevie Wonder 😂
Tidy work.
Damn I really thought you were going to hug it out with Ethan😍🥰😘. 😂😂😂😂
Awweee, 😂😂♥️♥️♥️
I would have done a 4 to 6" curb and made it flush with the framing but yes, you can rout out or table saw out a dado to make it fit flush.
No poly👍. Air sealing is an art..nailed it. Any idea what the permeability of the Saga is?
I think a 2 or 3 inch wide by 1/4 inch flat iron long enough to go from post to post would work to straighten the bottom. Push it in , edge on so it doesn't flex, and it would push the insulation in. Would work as long as you weren't pushing so hard you couldn't pull the tape off.
I always tie the bottom of the vapor barrier in place with acoustic sealant (black).