I got a 440i and bought an extended warranty with it and after a month of having it I flashed BM3 STG2 and snapped my drive shaft using launch control. my warranty covered it so I think if you have a shop that you know will help you keep quiet about the modified stuff to your warranty you should be all good.
@@AD-xq4hoyeah should’ve been more clear on that, it was inspected by bmw before purchase from the dealership I got it from. It was not a bmw warranty, I didn’t want one because I knew I was going to be tuning
I took my 540 to the dealer for the “free” repair on the active grill issue. When I picked the car up my service advisor pulled me to the side and told me realized my car was tuned (BM3) and said he had to remove the tune so to not void my warranty and replaced it with the BMW MPPSK tune at no extra cost. I’d rather the BM3 but I’m thankful my service guy looked out for me!
Usually they can tell, and that will void your warranty on engine/driveline. (ex dealer tech talking here) but it depends on the customer/dealer relationship. A returning customer who has their car serviced regularly at the dealership might get lucky, at least at the dealership I worked at we didnt make a huge problem of software or even hardware mods as long as the mods were done properly, and didnt have a relation to the problem the customer claimed warranty on. Like tune+blown cat=get lost, you probably caused it yourself, but a tune+broken timing belt before its "change by" mileage would not be a problem.
@@kern417 My knowledge might be a little out of date.. Ive left the dealership mechanics life 5+ years ago in pursuit of a better paying career (and haven`t looked back, the automotive sector pay and career options are by far the worst of any technical trade out here)
So I just went through this in my 2020 x3m. I snapped my driveshaft after an BM3 tune and a 10.7 run. I returned to stock. When I took it in as soon as they plugged in the scan notified BMW North America. At this point it was not up to the dealership. BMW NA contacted the dealer and told them to stop diagnosis while they research. the dealer said they are required to plug in on all drivetrain related damages. they said we can see its been tune. we done know the tune but its been run outside their safe parameters. Warranty void and trade in value is now considered wholesale.
I purchased a 2018 440i Gran Coupé, has around 85k miles on it. I got a 4 year extended Lubrico warranty, and the warranty is done by European Indy shops. I wonder if I’ll have an issue if go stage 1 without any visual mods.
Very helpful, thank you…lets say you’re like screw the warranty, I’m gonna take my chances… 3-4 years go by no issues, and now its time to sell the car. If you remove all software/hardware, will the dealer still let you trade it in? Or sell it back? This is perhaps more important than the the tune blowing something up and warranty not covering it, considering you choose the right tune and install it correctly.
@@OhDearBabajan like I said you can return it at any time. A dealership has no problem selling a modified car. If it's a lease then they may charge you to return it back to stock so like I said it could affect the offer that they buy your car for.
Is there a way to tell if your car has been tuned ? It wasn't until after I purchased my 140i from a dealership and a few weeks down the track I suspected it was however the Dealership won't say either way.
I don’t have a BMW I have a Mercedes C 63. But my question is can I tell the date of when it was flashed? because if you buy a certified preowned car you can just claim that the previous owner might’ve flashed the car unless the computer system shows a date
I dont know exactly how ista for bmw works, im a vw tech and we can tell by the values for example we can see if turbo psi has gone over what the factory threshold is. Sometimes depending on the customer we will warranty certain parts or not
First up is like normal. You plug it in, it does a diagnostic scan, and let you know if they are any open recalls or service reminders. If you get lucky and it's something that doesn't need diagnostics then you may get around it. But as soon as they plug it in it'll pick up the tune.
Does this technically mean that Bimmercode will void electrical warranties too?? Damn! my toyota dealer for my a90 supra said its OK to change the settings on bimmercode. but i guess not!
my canadian dealer authorize only Dinan , and max 15% of power more . so for 370hp b58 gen1 ... I can go to theoretically 425 hp .. worth the price ? not sure
Hello. It really depend from the tuner too. I got flagged with MHD. A well know company here in Belgium tune car too and if they remove the tune, bmw doesn't get that the car was tune and so, the car isn't flagged. It really depend on how the car is tune too.
Thats not how it works , if you ECU has Been Flashed they will know it there is no way to remove the traces off a tune!! I asked Big tunning companies ..
So, what happens if you buy your car from a BMW dealer as a used car? Say it's 4-5 years old, they still provide you with a 12 month warranty. What happens if one of the previous owners has tuned the car and you take it in with a problem? How would they ever prove that?
I've seen multiple accounts of people being screwed over because they bought a car that they didn't know was tuned. They're supposed to do the same diagnostic before putting a warranty on a car but I think they don't do it all the time.
When I got my truck 19 x3m40. I needed a software upgrade. They informed me it was tuned I played stupid said I just got the car. They upgrades the software and I had no problem.
took my car in last year for a dme update part of a recall. ended up being quoted $2500 for a new dme to get the recall performed. mind you the car was back to stock with the dme locked and 7 years out of warranty 😂
I got a 440i and bought an extended warranty with it and after a month of having it I flashed BM3 STG2 and snapped my drive shaft using launch control. my warranty covered it so I think if you have a shop that you know will help you keep quiet about the modified stuff to your warranty you should be all good.
if ur curious I got it on video on my reels, the real bad noise was cut out after
Extended warranty is bit more east since u can take your to any license shop.
That's not a BMW warranty
Clearly you didn’t buy it from bmw and it shows why it snapped
@@AD-xq4hoyeah should’ve been more clear on that, it was inspected by bmw before purchase from the dealership I got it from. It was not a bmw warranty, I didn’t want one because I knew I was going to be tuning
I took my 540 to the dealer for the “free” repair on the active grill issue. When I picked the car up my service advisor pulled me to the side and told me realized my car was tuned (BM3) and said he had to remove the tune so to not void my warranty and replaced it with the BMW MPPSK tune at no extra cost. I’d rather the BM3 but I’m thankful my service guy looked out for me!
Usually they can tell, and that will void your warranty on engine/driveline. (ex dealer tech talking here) but it depends on the customer/dealer relationship. A returning customer who has their car serviced regularly at the dealership might get lucky, at least at the dealership I worked at we didnt make a huge problem of software or even hardware mods as long as the mods were done properly, and didnt have a relation to the problem the customer claimed warranty on.
Like tune+blown cat=get lost, you probably caused it yourself, but a tune+broken timing belt before its "change by" mileage would not be a problem.
As shown in the video it doesn't matter. Plug it in and it'll get Flagged.
@@kern417 My knowledge might be a little out of date.. Ive left the dealership mechanics life 5+ years ago in pursuit of a better paying career (and haven`t looked back, the automotive sector pay and career options are by far the worst of any technical trade out here)
@@marks8068 i did the exact same lmao. I already understand
So I just went through this in my 2020 x3m. I snapped my driveshaft after an BM3 tune and a 10.7 run. I returned to stock. When I took it in as soon as they plugged in the scan notified BMW North America. At this point it was not up to the dealership. BMW NA contacted the dealer and told them to stop diagnosis while they research. the dealer said they are required to plug in on all drivetrain related damages. they said we can see its been tune. we done know the tune but its been run outside their safe parameters. Warranty void and trade in value is now considered wholesale.
Did you learn anything? 🤦♂️🙄
I purchased a 2018 440i Gran Coupé, has around 85k miles on it. I got a 4 year extended Lubrico warranty, and the warranty is done by European Indy shops. I wonder if I’ll have an issue if go stage 1 without any visual mods.
5:30 Yeah if they do any digging and see some wild parameters on the DME they will know that there has been a piggyback.
Thank you!
Very helpful, thank you…lets say you’re like screw the warranty, I’m gonna take my chances… 3-4 years go by no issues, and now its time to sell the car. If you remove all software/hardware, will the dealer still let you trade it in? Or sell it back? This is perhaps more important than the the tune blowing something up and warranty not covering it, considering you choose the right tune and install it correctly.
They will let you trade it in but they will not certify the car and it may impact the price they offer
@@kern417 so either way you look at it you’re at a loss lol
@@kern417 but if nothing goes wrong throughout the lease, can’t you just return the car?
@@OhDearBabajan like I said you can return it at any time. A dealership has no problem selling a modified car. If it's a lease then they may charge you to return it back to stock so like I said it could affect the offer that they buy your car for.
@@kern417 what if I remove the tune and all of the other aftermarket parts?
I think I purchased my tune and catless down pipe the first week I drove my 440i home. Never looked back
No regrets 🤝🏾
How’s that been reliability wise
Is there a way to tell if your car has been tuned ? It wasn't until after I purchased my 140i from a dealership and a few weeks down the track I suspected it was however the Dealership won't say either way.
If you bench flash the ecu it doesn’t trigger the flash counter 😊
Good luck 😊
I don’t have a BMW I have a Mercedes C 63. But my question is can I tell the date of when it was flashed? because if you buy a certified preowned car you can just claim that the previous owner might’ve flashed the car unless the computer system shows a date
If I install a downpipe but not with a tune do you think they can find out and void my warranty ?
I dont know exactly how ista for bmw works, im a vw tech and we can tell by the values for example we can see if turbo psi has gone over what the factory threshold is. Sometimes depending on the customer we will warranty certain parts or not
First up is like normal. You plug it in, it does a diagnostic scan, and let you know if they are any open recalls or service reminders. If you get lucky and it's something that doesn't need diagnostics then you may get around it. But as soon as they plug it in it'll pick up the tune.
Does this technically mean that Bimmercode will void electrical warranties too?? Damn! my toyota dealer for my a90 supra said its OK to change the settings on bimmercode. but i guess not!
it can, but i'm not sure if toyota is following the same policies as bmw
my canadian dealer authorize only Dinan , and max 15% of power more . so for 370hp b58 gen1 ... I can go to theoretically 425 hp .. worth the price ? not sure
Hello. It really depend from the tuner too. I got flagged with MHD. A well know company here in Belgium tune car too and if they remove the tune, bmw doesn't get that the car was tune and so, the car isn't flagged. It really depend on how the car is tune too.
Thats not how it works , if you ECU has Been Flashed they will know it there is no way to remove the traces off a tune!! I asked Big tunning companies ..
Don't believe companies that say they're doing something to hide it. They can tell.
@@bmwsincekid if they use ista to find in purpose Ofc. But it won't trigger the fault of suspicion tuning
@@Nakinakpgm If you have an Engine damage Then they will check !!
Reset flash counter and Reseting adaptions should help
what if you were just trying to sell a tuned car to bmw do you suggest untuning it before selling it to them?
they'll probably take it tuned. but going back to stock won't prevent it from being flagged
So will Honda void my warranty if I’m having problems with my A/C compressor and I tuned it with Ktuner
Nope. I work as an advisor for a Honda dealer. It has nothing to do with that service.
What about BimmerLink? Will it void warranty too? I use it only for logging…
Nope, only bimmercode
what intake works best with my dealership tune? NGK or pure800
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You really want to build your engine before swapping your intake man. Baby steps.
So, what happens if you buy your car from a BMW dealer as a used car? Say it's 4-5 years old, they still provide you with a 12 month warranty. What happens if one of the previous owners has tuned the car and you take it in with a problem? How would they ever prove that?
I've seen multiple accounts of people being screwed over because they bought a car that they didn't know was tuned. They're supposed to do the same diagnostic before putting a warranty on a car but I think they don't do it all the time.
When I got my truck 19 x3m40. I needed a software upgrade. They informed me it was tuned I played stupid said I just got the car. They upgrades the software and I had no problem.
@@NEKKAI glad it worked for you
Something like JB4 removed and battery reset apply to this?
It can still happen yes
How do we run diagnostics ourselves
But a 3k diag tool
Bimmerlink, Or Carly Easy and does the work good!
@@declanmoore1491 ohh i see okay
took my car in last year for a dme update part of a recall. ended up being quoted $2500 for a new dme to get the recall performed. mind you the car was back to stock with the dme locked and 7 years out of warranty 😂
Yeah ain't no way lmao
@@kern417 yeah it’s ridiculous. service advisor just signed me off on the recall so thankfully i didn’t pay for a new dme
in aviation 7700 is emergency and 7770 is aircraft is taken by air force .... to think about this code , lol
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nah bmw will definitely replace your motor when you're running 40lbs of boost with a 50 shot on OEM components.
guy math