How To Use IRLP

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • This short video describes how to use IRLP or "Internet Radio Linking Project" to connect to other IRLP repeaters Worldwide. Any radio that has a DTMF feature can use IRLP. In this video we connect to IRLP node 6789.
    According to the IRLP website it is recommended to say cq (just not cq cq cq like on hf) to attempt a contact over irlp rather than just saying "listening" or "monitoring" Also helps to state your location.
    Gentleman whom operates the IRLP node we connect to:
    • VK3RCM (operated by VK...
    My Antenna made by KB9VBR:
    jpole-antenna.com
    KB9VBR RUclips:
    • KB9VBR J-Pole Antenna ...

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  • @dave8644
    @dave8644 6 месяцев назад +3

    you are the only RUclips channel, that offered this amount of information to viewers.🎊

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  6 месяцев назад

      I try to be as unbiased and honest as possible.

  • @brianshanahan3878
    @brianshanahan3878 4 года назад +2

    I just got my license about a year ago and always wondered what IRLP was. Thanks for this helpful video.

  • @CliveSmith
    @CliveSmith 8 лет назад +10

    Just getting back into amateur radio after 20+years absence. This video is an excellent tutorial on IRLP. Well done, and thanks! 73's G4VCP

    • @Sugarsail1
      @Sugarsail1 3 года назад +1

      Me too, all this new fangled repeater linking stuff and digital radio is making me feel really old.

    • @englishandproud100
      @englishandproud100 3 года назад

      @@Sugarsail1 you're not on your own! I'm wondering how to use this new fangled stuff too!

  • @jeep13ca
    @jeep13ca 5 лет назад +2

    Awesome video. Wish more straightforward videos like this existed for people getting into this.

  • @darrenhoey4667
    @darrenhoey4667 9 лет назад +8

    Good video. I was wondering how irlp worked and you explained and demonstrated perfect and clear . Thanks

  • @Hizan546
    @Hizan546 11 лет назад +1

    Think of a node as a chat room sort of thing. Everyone connects to the same node to talk together - unless they're using RF to access the repeater, in which case they'd just use the repeater as normal.
    Connecting to a node allows you to speak and listen through another repeater by using a repeater which is local to you.

  • @walkingmanvideo9455
    @walkingmanvideo9455 4 года назад

    Insane how it all works. I just passed my Standard exam yesterday. I am now waiting for my license to arrive before I can begin to enjoy amateur radio. Thanks for this video, you answered all my queries on this area of ham radio.

  • @MrLneil
    @MrLneil 9 лет назад +1

    Thanks. Just got back active after many years silent. I have really been missing all the great technology. Sure have a lot to learn. WB3KEF now relocated in Colordo.

  • @bak2bassix
    @bak2bassix Год назад

    Thanks for doing this. I’ve been Foundation licensed for a couple of months and not yet been brave enough to give it a try. Will do now though! Thanks again

  • @adrenalinowner7992
    @adrenalinowner7992 Год назад

    Very good video, I’m still learning about Ham Operations, non licensed person here 73 🇨🇦 VE6HM is one of my home repeaters I listen to

  • @Aerospaceman
    @Aerospaceman 4 года назад

    Excellent video on IRLP, I just had my first contact on echo link this morning via android. Your video clearly explained the IRLP process and etiquette. Thank You. 73.

  • @Phazon8058MS
    @Phazon8058MS 10 лет назад

    Thanks for the demo! Today I managed to hook up my local node to the 9300 reflector for a 2M IRLP net.

  • @jimthannum7151
    @jimthannum7151 9 лет назад

    That was a great short video, concise and great demonstration of how to handle an IRLP call. This was shorter and better than most of the printed matter on IRLP. 73, KK4CSX

  • @MrVWQ
    @MrVWQ 9 лет назад +1

    two people couldnt figure it out and disliked your video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @HamRadioLiveShow
    @HamRadioLiveShow 3 года назад +2

    Rory,
    I host a daily RUclips podcast hoping to teach him radio to people. IRLP is a subject I would like to cover.
    I want to be sure it’s OK to use this video for my podcast from you. I think it is exceptionally well done. It’s nice to have someone do a video so precise that’s easy to follow along with.
    Thank you so much and all the very best to you and yours,
    Larry
    de K7HN

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  3 года назад

      Feel free to use it and share a link to it for credit, please.

    • @HamRadioLiveShow
      @HamRadioLiveShow 3 года назад

      Absolutely. It will be on today’s show. I’ll have a link to your channel in the description.
      God bless you and great DX!
      Larry

  • @jonswift1745
    @jonswift1745 11 лет назад

    I know this video is almost a year old, but thanks for posting it. It's very helpful.

    • @jane5886
      @jane5886 6 месяцев назад

      Here 10 years later :)

  • @jessiestocks5144
    @jessiestocks5144 4 года назад

    THANK YOU, iv been searching how to connect to echo link with a handheld but every one just videos them self talking or setting up their own node. thanks again.

  • @wa9neu
    @wa9neu 10 лет назад

    thanks for this good video. I just upgraded to Extra class last month. I still enjoy vhf repeaters and I like walking. So I look forward to finding a repeater with echolink connection and talk away while walking or bicycling. Wa9neu in Cave in rock,Illinois

  • @tomsmall2479
    @tomsmall2479 5 лет назад

    I was curious what IRLP represented in the Ham World - the presentation was very clear and detailed....73

  • @davidallred6904
    @davidallred6904 7 лет назад

    Brand new to HAM, Still waiting to get my call sign, actually. Thanks for the informative video. I've got 3 repeaters in my area that I can easily hit my with HT. Hopefully when I get my ticket I can use some IRLP nodes to make some contacts around the world. 73!.

  • @davidsanders2870
    @davidsanders2870 10 лет назад

    Thanks for this IRLP demo. I've been wondering how it worked.

  • @gmctech
    @gmctech 7 лет назад

    Great simple explanation... I'm not a ham but I love wireless comms and was wondering about irlp's.... now I'm down with its basics... :) again, thanks a bunch!

  • @MikeWood
    @MikeWood 7 лет назад

    Was looking for a simple how to video on IRLP activation and your video came up first. Nice straight forward demo. 73, VE3MXU.

  • @garyscholze1
    @garyscholze1 10 лет назад

    Thank you.. I only used irlp once and forgot how.
    Thanks again,
    Gary
    Kb3poq

  • @chrisr069
    @chrisr069 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the video! QUESTION: Say you connect to the Victoria AUS node as you did 6789, would your CQ contact have to know the node number of YOUR local irlp repeater in order to transmit back to you?

  • @2000dcampos
    @2000dcampos 10 лет назад

    Great video. Helped out a lot for my first IRLP contact today.

  • @zackcagley2192
    @zackcagley2192 10 лет назад

    Excellent video!
    I'm traveling to Ohio for vacation and will be using IRLP to speak with a friend here in Prescott.
    Thanks! 73
    KF7RXT

  • @Camman010
    @Camman010 4 года назад

    You can thank David VE7LTD for the IRLP. He invented it to contact with a friend in central BC Canada.

  • @ryantoomey611
    @ryantoomey611 4 года назад

    The good old days before DMR talkgroups came along.

  • @5150Jim
    @5150Jim 9 лет назад

    TNX for the informative video. I looked you up on QRZ & I to have been to the W6RO station & have a QSL card from there, but as cool as operating from there.
    TNX again, Jim ka6aru

  • @a-zmp
    @a-zmp 6 лет назад

    Thanks. As a new ham this is the how to info that is hard to find.

  • @1billiedale
    @1billiedale 5 лет назад

    Excellent explanation. Thanks for presenting it. Subscribed.

  • @glennstevenson6242
    @glennstevenson6242 7 лет назад

    Good stuff mate. Your video help me heaps to understand IRLP.
    Cheers from Glenn is VK.

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx  11 лет назад

    Yeah your node is one of the better ones with all the configured sound files! Maybe we can QSO on HF one day, 73' Craig!

  • @jackkelley890
    @jackkelley890 4 года назад

    awesome video. This is exactly what I was needing. Keep sharing. 73s

  • @rudypitte5032
    @rudypitte5032 8 лет назад

    Simple and to the point. Nice vid. Tnx.

  • @kk6ptx-932
    @kk6ptx-932 10 лет назад

    Thank you for this tutorial. Extremely helpful.

  • @prephampaul
    @prephampaul 2 года назад

    Well done! Added your link to our group HCOL page for a simple and complete guide to IRLP use!! 73

  • @mrsweetcracker
    @mrsweetcracker 11 лет назад

    Thank for making this video!! I am a new Ham and I have been searching the internet on how to use the IRLP
    73
    Cody
    VA7ARF

  • @michaeldunn9018
    @michaeldunn9018 4 года назад

    Thanks for the great and informative video!

  • @rolfchristophersen2898
    @rolfchristophersen2898 10 лет назад

    Hi, Nice job; I like the way you slowly demonstrated the actual process of IRLP using HAM radio two meters and the Internet linking. You'd be a good teacher! I'm just learning about IRLP. I do not have a key pad on my mic (MH-31). I was wondering if I could open PTT and the hold my telephone next to the speaker and key in the tones? Thanks from KD0EGD.

    • @kellingc
      @kellingc 10 лет назад

      Radio Shack used to sell a DTMF pad that would just generate the tones. That wa back in the time of remote access to your answering machine, and not all phones may have been push button. However, it is easy enough to make. Each row and each column has a specific tone. When a digit is pressed, the junction of the row and column creates 2 ones. The decoder picks up the tones and determines where in the matrix the button press occurred. Building a unit might work better than trying to coordinate pressing the PTT button and then pressing the buttons on your phone, though in theory it would work.

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx  11 лет назад

    Yes, but some repeater owners change the code. This is done in cases where the owner restricts access to their repeater.

  • @fdiaz05
    @fdiaz05 11 лет назад

    I loved the vid but one thing I'm missing. What station were you connected to prior to jumping onto IRLP? was it a local repeater that was known to be IRLP enabled?

  • @darrenhintze7646
    @darrenhintze7646 5 лет назад

    Thank you very much! Awesome video!

  • @purplemutantas
    @purplemutantas 11 лет назад

    We just had an IRLP node installed here. On the node here 73 is used to disconnect from the node. I would imagine that 73 is standard. But I don't know for sure.

  • @2wrdr
    @2wrdr 3 года назад

    Hopefully getting my 1st license next Saturday. Does this format this exist? Also so you don't need an HT with any digital format to access just use of DTMF? That was really cool btw! I ordered Yaesu FT-65R but is seems they are backordered everywhere and still waiting. Because of this I ordered a Radioddity GD-77 off Amazon so at least I have something to start using soon. I hope to get my General license after I get my feet wet with Tech.

  • @Chaplain1083
    @Chaplain1083 11 лет назад +1

    you don`t need CQ, just call out your call sign and say (if you want) listening or monitoring. You can also say your location.

  • @ChuckRowe
    @ChuckRowe 9 лет назад +1

    That's a great video. Thank you!

  • @donrice8176
    @donrice8176 8 лет назад

    great to the point tutorial. Thanks so much!

  • @maxdaddy6434
    @maxdaddy6434 9 лет назад

    Great vid for a newbie! Thank you!

  • @rjnmex
    @rjnmex 9 лет назад

    Thank you! I'm new to IRLP and found your video very informative. N1CNY

  • @Michael-us3om
    @Michael-us3om 11 лет назад

    New ham hear. Great FYI video. Thanks and 73.

  • @qingfengwang2404
    @qingfengwang2404 6 лет назад

    Just want to say well done!

  • @dave8644
    @dave8644 6 месяцев назад

    thanks for the post📯

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  6 месяцев назад

      No problem!

  • @synctothegid
    @synctothegid 10 лет назад

    Thanks for putting this up. It really helped me to understand how to use IRLP. I really did not understand the methodology until watching this. Good job. 73 KD0YSC

  • @profgyland2
    @profgyland2 7 лет назад +1

    Some Radio Clubs in Australia running the repeaters are very unfriendly and do not want to be involved in conversations with people they do not know. Some of the radio clubs are also very cliquey and if you are not a member they do not want to know you. This is typical for some clubs. Mind you the ARNSW the Amateur Radio New South Wales is the oldest and longest existing radio club in the World. They always welcome new connections and are friendly with overseas callers. Forget the small towns such as the country towns like Canberra. They are known to be rather let us say isolated and only speak to themselves and if you call CQ they would not bother to answer. This is my personal and some other radio amateur's experiences as well. WK1FGYL.

    • @WadeAbout
      @WadeAbout 6 лет назад

      As a net controller here in Canberra I couldn’t think of anything further from the truth. Call in any time. If the repeater is monitored (IRLP and echolink are not on the primary repeater) you will get an answer. We have recently had a great group qso with some Indian callers. Was a great day. Hope to make a contact soon cheers. VK1MIC

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx  11 лет назад

    You must have took the test the same day I did. My buddy that took the test with me got KF7ZKG.

  • @Quark.Lepton
    @Quark.Lepton 9 лет назад

    Nice vid & very helpful & informative!
    Cheers & 73,
    de W6SJP

  • @ebazz1
    @ebazz1 2 года назад

    Great video, sir. Is IRLP person to person or can anybody on your end or the other end get in on the conversation? Thank you. Ernest Bazzinotti KC1LKB

  • @awrwayne
    @awrwayne 11 лет назад

    Most IRLP nodes are on 2 meters or 70 cm FM repeaters. Calling CQ on 2 meters/70cm is normally viewed by other hams as poor practice.

  • @iamallears
    @iamallears 6 лет назад

    Great video! Thank you for sharing! 73, NO4W

  • @rds801
    @rds801 9 лет назад

    Thanks for this video. Is it a good idea to get permission before connecting to someones node? And can I connect to a reflector with my handheld the same as a node?

  • @JaimeRestrepo61
    @JaimeRestrepo61 8 лет назад

    GREAT INFO!!

  • @RookieLock
    @RookieLock 3 года назад

    Total newb to ham.. Just getting started.. How is IRLP different than echo link.. Sorry for the dummy question..

  • @usernamemykel
    @usernamemykel 8 лет назад

    IPhone app "Winsytem Info"
    Or just type in the iPhone apps search field "IRLP"

  • @africantwin173
    @africantwin173 5 лет назад

    In Europe i only see AllStar and svxlink. Both have echolink. Never seen irlp overhere... Edit:. Damn those irlp boards are 100 bucks . Now i see why there are no irlp stations here.

  • @synonyx
    @synonyx  11 лет назад

    IRLP will be your gateway around the world for now until you get some HF gear.... 6M will be active pretty soon so an HF radio would not be a bad next investment for you.

  • @VileStorms
    @VileStorms 4 года назад

    my local node just responds with two hundred one, or two hundred two when I punch in the Win system reflector node 9100

  • @JimFariello
    @JimFariello 9 лет назад

    Thanks, good video, N0USN.

  • @grandmistresserin226
    @grandmistresserin226 11 лет назад

    I can't Get mine To work, Got a yaesu 2500m and a radio shack htx-404 using a Tram dual band mobile antenna, I am transmitting To a repeater In Colorado not 2 far from me, I have dialed 73 and waited, No return audio, Then dialed 7673 Kingston node, Still no return audio

  • @GoGlennR
    @GoGlennR 11 лет назад

    Thanks for the video clip. Helpful info.
    73's de DL8FG/Glenn

  • @Fraiyia
    @Fraiyia 6 лет назад

    I was informed that in order to use the irlp it would need to be running alstar .I tried your instructions with by local repearter that indicates it has irlp and it doesn't work . I'm on Wb8grs . Any ideas ?

  • @thomasrogen3739
    @thomasrogen3739 2 года назад

    Question can you use IRLP on a Baofeng radio?

  • @petedamron
    @petedamron 7 лет назад

    I have a question...
    I have a 250 watt cross. Band Repeater. Large coverage area.
    1. Can a Mobil radio access the irlp on the repeater access the internet gateway and go to another no repeater. Or are they only going to be allowed to connect and transmit on the irlp should we install one. I really don't understand the capabilities of an irlp is it going to be just radio two the irlp node and just transmitting on our repeater or can you give it a command two choose another note. Quite a large expense looking at the rack mount and the Linux system. Can you help explain this a little better I would appreciate it.
    N6ZLW
    Pete Damron

  • @Munky332
    @Munky332 8 лет назад +1

    so here's a question, when using IRLP, can the connection be terminated from either side? ie say you connected your node to the 6789 node, could someone in Australia disconnect you by transmitting DTMF 73?
    other than you obviously calling CQ, if someone were monitoring the IRLP node in Australia, would they get notification that the node has been connected? can multiple nodes be connected?

    • @SDSpike
      @SDSpike 7 лет назад

      Yes they could disconnect the link by hitting 73. They would get a similar announcement that the the link has been brought up through the node you are using. Multiple node can be connected to each other through what is called a 'reflector' Think of direct node to node as simplex and many nodes to a reflector as the repeater of the IRLP system. Your node is not announced to all other nodes when you connect to a reflector.

    • @Munky332
      @Munky332 7 лет назад

      Thanks, after getting my HAM tech license shortly after making that comment, i experimented with a buddy. reflectors are cool, but most of the ones i've run into have all been fairly quiet. the 9100 reflector seems like the coolest as it generally seems to be the most populated. I've played around with echolink too. the biggest problem I have is nearest echolink and IRLP nodes to me are right at about 35-45 miles from me, and my little baofeng with nagoya can't hit them. that's kind of the thing I like about the Echolink system is that I can use my internet connection and use my desktop to listen in/transmit around the world without having a direct radio node. might install a J-pole to see if I can get out a bit farther, but also looking into HF once I upgrade to general. almost bought a Yaesu FT-450D, but some other stuff came up, and my other hobbies got in the way. digital modes (rtty,psk31, etc) interest me most I think. 2m/70cm was popular for a bit here, about a month before i got my ticket, then it dropped off.

  • @USAFJUNKIE
    @USAFJUNKIE 5 лет назад

    So...once you connect, if anyone in your area tunes into that repeater, they'll be connected to the repeater you dialed up via IRLP? Or is it just going to give them local FM traffic while you're talking over the internet? (Hopefully my question makes sense.)

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  5 лет назад

      Once a repeater is connected to another repeater via IRLP, it is fully connected to the other repeater so anyone who keys the mic will transmit locally and through the IRLP link. This is a big reason why you are asked to disconnect the link when done.

  • @barryeaton8063
    @barryeaton8063 9 лет назад

    what type of band is on ur radio are fire company still uses 33 mhz out of maryland lol im getting in to ham radio my self just wanted to know what kenwood that is in what bands modes

  • @outlaw6595
    @outlaw6595 9 лет назад

    Does your instructions work for Yeasu as well?

  • @englishandproud100
    @englishandproud100 3 года назад

    Is there anywhere where you can find all the access codes for worldwide nodes? or am I missing the point? I'm hoping there's a database somewhere that you can connect to (In a particular part of the planet that interests you? Treat me as a buffoon with your replies) 73 and tnx in anticipation

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  3 года назад

      Access codes are dependent on the owner and can change. Your best IRLP resource is this page here - status.irlp.net/index.php?PSTART=3

  • @ScottAReid
    @ScottAReid 9 лет назад

    informative video brother. 73 de N5XTC

  • @giga898
    @giga898 9 лет назад +1

    Nice video, really helped a lot
    -KF7RAO

  • @nathanbieber2840
    @nathanbieber2840 3 года назад

    do you have to use a certain radio like a kenwood to use IRLP? I have anyton, ft-3dr, and a wouxun 9d and a couple of boafengs

    • @synonyx
      @synonyx  3 года назад

      The Kenwood TH-D72 works well but I've also done it with a Yaesu. As long as the radio supports DTMF it should work.

  • @kattgreenbackupaccount1342
    @kattgreenbackupaccount1342 9 лет назад

    NICE VIDEO
    W5DZG

  • @TwitchRadio
    @TwitchRadio 9 лет назад

    now if i can just get this to work on me baofueng gt-3 mark II

  • @Kzummo
    @Kzummo 9 лет назад

    Video starts at 1:54

  • @Cheeseoverdose
    @Cheeseoverdose 8 лет назад

    Does anyone have documentation saying you shouldn't call CQ over IRLP or is this just an unwritten rule?

    • @jleiben72
      @jleiben72 8 лет назад +1

      according to the irlp website it is recommended to say cq (just not cq cq cq like on hf) to attempt a contact over irlp rather than just saying "listening" or "monitoring"

  • @RadioGuy-wt1vr
    @RadioGuy-wt1vr 8 лет назад

    Really frustrating that these Apps no longer available on IOS.

    • @Munky332
      @Munky332 8 лет назад +1

      time to upgrade to a proper OS. Apple died before Steve Jobs could.

  • @tahoma6889
    @tahoma6889 3 года назад

    Saying CQ? On duplex/repeaters? I think not. Just say "Anyone here? This is ... ... ... ".

  • @wardhavens007
    @wardhavens007 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the help great video! 73 VK2FWLH

  • @texasprepper869
    @texasprepper869 9 лет назад +4

    we dont use cq on repeaters

    • @beaver6969lv
      @beaver6969lv 8 лет назад

      Generally you don't, you monitor. You do CQ using IRLP trying QSO someone using a repeater.

    • @beaver6969lv
      @beaver6969lv 8 лет назад +2

      George Ace crazy how much ham radio has come. You never know who is listening when you're on air, especially IRLP. 73

    • @Cheeseoverdose
      @Cheeseoverdose 8 лет назад +1

      +George Ace study up for your license. It's not hard. Go for ir

    • @rohnkd4hct260
      @rohnkd4hct260 8 лет назад +1

      yes , you do in some places.

    • @seriouspipes
      @seriouspipes 6 лет назад

      Nice expo. Have you ever heard anyone on 6789? Connected dozens of times and never heard a soul.

  • @verishare
    @verishare 10 лет назад

    00 Will tell you the status before 73

  • @JMaassK7JKZ
    @JMaassK7JKZ 11 лет назад

    Helpful. Thanks and 73 DE K7JKZ

    • @JMaassK7JKZ
      @JMaassK7JKZ 10 лет назад

      ***** Paul OM, are you referring to your 146.700 machine?

    • @JMaassK7JKZ
      @JMaassK7JKZ 10 лет назад

      ***** OM, appreciate the info. I am using a handheld with no outdoor antenna. Drawing plans for an iron pipe home brew mast for a J-Pole. I can only key up 146.7; audio after that doesn't survive. Location is two blocks NW of the VA medical center. I hear the activity on 146.7 and would like to partake if the antenna height helps. The VA medical center and Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation buildings could block me.

    • @JMaassK7JKZ
      @JMaassK7JKZ 10 лет назад

      Between this video, the IRLP website, email from yourself and Paul Sr., the W5DEL website, and other sources, I believe I can qualify as "IRLP Novice; No Hazard."

    • @JMaassK7JKZ
      @JMaassK7JKZ 10 лет назад

      I've noticed that 146.700 is now often WINS. Is that replacing 443.300 as dedicated WINS?

    • @jazz4asahel
      @jazz4asahel 10 лет назад

      Sometimes when WINS becomes slow I've thought of keying it to something like England, Australia, or Japan. But mostly I have left it on WINS.

  • @dannelson8556
    @dannelson8556 8 лет назад

    CQ CQ CQ on a 2 meter repeater using skype/IRLP ??
    You can always tell a newbie who hasn't bothered to learn proper amature radio protocal. For future reference You never EVER call CQ on 2/440 FM especially through a repeater. It's generally considered extremely poor operating practice to call CQ through a repeater. Doing so lets everyone know that you're a repeater jockey who hasn't bothered to educate themselves on proper amature radio protocol, AKA a LID.
    The proper repeater protocol is " this is KF7ZKF (state your location) looking for a signal report via IRLP.
    Or simply "KF7ZKF (state your location) monitoring "
    Save the CQ for real radio, You know CW/SSB on HF. As the old saying goes, Real radio bounces off the sky, everything else is just glorified CB.

    • @dicebagdaryl
      @dicebagdaryl 8 лет назад +3

      +Dan Nelson Hate to say it, buddy, but it's people like you that intimidate others to NOT get into Amateur Radio. Generals and Extras that won't stop looking down their noses at new Technicians, which is slowly killing the hobby. Just because this kid didn't need to learn Morse code or build his first radio doesn't mean that he deserves your condescending vitriol or animosity.
      "Real radio bounces off the sky," huh? Really? So VHF and UHF doesn't use radio waves? It uses, what, bullshit waves? Get the fuck out of here, you cunt.

    • @dannelson8556
      @dannelson8556 8 лет назад

      +Brent Hewitson "Generals and Extras that won't stop looking down their noses at new Technicians, which is slowing killing the hobby"
      Quite the contrary what's killing the ham radio service is the dumbing down of the licensing exams and the massive influx of slackers and appliance operators who are only interested in ratchet jawing on the radio and are too lazy to pick up a book and educate themselves.
      First let's set the record straight. Ham radio is not a hobby ! It's called the amateur radio service for a reason. Ham radio is an FCC licensed radio service. The FCC doesn't consider the holder of an amateur radio station license a hobbyist.
      As far as the FCC is concerned the holder of amateur radio station license is the chief engineer of a radio station, As such the licensee is responsible for insuring that their radio station complies with all technical and safety guidelines and regulations. Why do you think the test has all those questions regarding ohm's law, resonance reactance...........
      What's killing the amateur radio service is not people like me who advocate maintaining a high standard of technical competence within amateur radio service but rather the influx of whackers and doomsday preppers who couldn't build a simple dipole without an instructable
      What's killing the ham radio service is the influx of paper extras who couldn't define resonance without watching a you tube video let alone repair a radio or design a low pass filter...
      Keep in mind ham radio is a radio service founded entirely on promoting and expanding the radio art through science, engineering and continuing education.
      "intimidate others to NOT get into Amateur Radio"
      Good if you're so thin skinned that a little verbal spanking regarding inappropriate protocol offends you then don't let the door hit you in the back on the way out . What ham radio needs is quality not quantity, the last thing ham radio needs is a bunch of illiterate twits and slackers who refuse to educate themselves in order to maintain the high standards set forth by previous generations of hams. It was this high standard and pursuit of education and skill that set ham radio apart from the free banders polluting the radio waves of 11 meters..
      "So simplex doesn't use radio waves" Simplex Really !! This is a perfect example of the lack of education I'm talking about. If you bothered to pick up and study a book regarding RF and propagation then you wouldn't asked such a stupid question, Like I said you can always tell the newbie who's never bothered to read a book.
      The bottom line is, What's killing the armature radio service is the fact that today a ham radio license is no longer worth the paper it's printed on, Oh wait they no longer actually print them , Ever wonder why ?

    • @dicebagdaryl
      @dicebagdaryl 8 лет назад +1

      Dan Nelson I don't know if you've pulled your head out of the sand and looked around lately, but "traditional" radio is practically on its way out the door anyway. We live in an age of computers and the internet. While I don't necessarily disagree with you that they're dumbing the tests down, I do [mostly] disagree in regards to "what we need is quality, not quantity."
      Do you HONESTLY think Millennials would get into amateur radio if they also had to learn Morse code, how to hand-build a radio, etc.? They would rather just spend that time learning to code C++, Ruby, Python, Java, or any of the other coding languages.
      If there's not enough "quantity" of hams out there, then there won't be anyone else to work with! While, yes, dumbing down the licensing tests is frustrating, the next generation of hams wouldn't even try in this day and age if it was as difficult as it used to be. If the radio landscape doesn't adapt, it WILL die. The only ones who would operate are people whos employers require them to be licensed. That's it.

    • @dannelson8556
      @dannelson8556 8 лет назад

      +Brent Hewitson
      The bottom line is the Amateur radio service occupies some very valuable radio spectrum. In the past this was justified because the amateur radio service provided an invaluable service during times of emergency.
      Unfortunately It's quickly becoming apparent that the same can no longer be said of the ham radio service today. Exactly how much value does the amateur radio service provide to society when the vast majority of paper extras who should be able to troubleshoot and repair just about any piece of radio gear can't even build a simple dipole without watching a RUclips video.
      As such I disagree that advocating maintaining a high technical standard of competence is destroying the amateur radio service by driving prospective hams away.
      Quite contrary it hasn't had that effect anywhere else in the world. The fact is lowering the standard has actually driven out a large number of very valuable competent hams who have left because they feel the service has been reduced to nothing more than appliance operator's, anti government nut jobs and freebanders who offer nothing of value to society or the amateur radio service. It's obvious that here in the US the ham radio service is slowly being reduced to nothing more than glorified CB.
      On the other hand amateur radio is flourishing elsewhere in the world where they still require members of the amateur radio service to demonstrate and maintain technical competence . Why do you think the vast vast majority of technical innovations in ham radio are coming from other countries rather than the United States.
      You might not realize this but the sad fact is US hams are considered a world wide laughing stock. As a result this is the first time in the history of amateur radio where I have actually heard Dxpeditions as well as DX stations actively refuse to work American hams. Now exactly how can losing the respect of our peers from around the globe be good for the American amateur radio service.
      I'll use the J-pole as a perfect example of the dumbing down of the amateur radio service. Only in America do you see this J-pole fetish, I cringe every time I see an American ham post a video enthusiastically promoting the magical performance of the J-Pole.
      Why ? because if these hams had actually bothered to educate themselves they wouldn't be susceptible to unethical snake oil salesmen and their claims of magical antennas that defy the laws of physics.
      If these hams bothered to learn some simple math and pick up an authoritative antenna book rather than acquire their education by watching BS RUclips video most of which are loaded with subjective personal opinion masqueraded as fact they might have actually learned that the J-pole is a crappy over hyped antenna with negative gain when compared to even a simple 1/4 wave ground plane. They might have also learned that the J-pole suffers from serious feed line radiation issues as well as common mode problems. Yet that doesn't stop them from claiming that the J-pole is the next best thing since sliced bread and yet they cant figure out why American hams are no longer respected and have become a world wide laughing stock. I won't even go int the embarrassment of hearing newly minted paper extras on air asking for help building dipoles.

    • @dicebagdaryl
      @dicebagdaryl 8 лет назад

      Dan Nelson Well, that certainly is a shame that foreign hams are doing that, but those are the exact types of people that I was originally talking about. They're taking their own frustrations - while justified - and letting that undermine the whole purpose of amateur radio. As you stated, "...the Amateur radio service occupies some very valuable radio spectrum. In the past this was justified because the amateur radio service provided an invaluable service during times of emergency. "
      "Why do you think the vast vast majority of technical innovations in ham radio are coming from other countries rather than the United States?" I'll say it again: BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY THAT PEOPLE ARE FOCUSING ON IN THE UNITED STATES THESE DAYS. Did it stick that time, Dan?
      Plus, don't you think that it's a bit of generalization to say that these "nutjobs" and freebanders have nothing to contribute to society, just because they're not as versed in amateur radio as they should be? Come on, what are we, in elementary school? Grow up, dude.

  • @Dave-zb9dq
    @Dave-zb9dq Год назад

    Thanks for the post 📯 73 KN6WDB