Timestamps 4:40 Sony Ditches Headphone Jack 12:54 GeForce Partner Program 43:59 Sponsor: Spektrum Glasses 45:47 Spnosor: Freshbooks 46:40 Linus Realizes That Not Much Was Accomplished 48:08 Floatplane 50:15 Security Flaws in Ryzen 55:25 Famous People Play Video Games 55:31 EA is Turning Battlefront 2 Into a Real Game 56:30 Fast Rando Topics 57:25 Outro
00:04:36 - Sony removed headphone jack from Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 Compact 00:12:50 - GeForce Partner Program 00:43:52 - Sponsor: Spektrum Glasses 00:45:45 - Sponsor: Freshbooks 00:48:05 - Floatplane 00:50:10 - Security flaw discovered in Zen processors 00:55:27 - EA turning Star Wars Battlefront II into a real game 00:56:08 - Free games from Twitch Prime 00:57:10 - Broadcom not buying Qualcomm
increased prices on GPU's,(the 1060, 1070 etc were more expensive than the previous gen of cards), exclusive technology that raises prices of monitors by upwards of 300 dollars, etc etc. No competition is always a bad thing.
Korishan Maybe... but just look at other monopolies, such as De Beers diamonds and Luxottica, they have done these kinds of things with almost no repercussions...
and that's is why their stock is skyrocking for YEARS. AMD has no chance, we'll not see any competition till NVDA is in every single AI sectror of the future. We're screwed and we can only hope their products keep being technically proficient.
what makes it even look more like hollow marketing propaganda phrases and blatan lies. Luke refering to Umbridge seems like a really accurate comparison
wasn't meant to be funny it was a fact odumbos administration was only transparent to people with brains who could see what was right in front of them. personally I'm more interested in how these youtubers can sleep at night making vids of how gpus are so hard to get yet they have a shelf on the wall behind them full of gpus that are still in boxes not being used when they could be given to us gamers who are currently fucked with failing GPU's and unable to get one without buying from an unauthorized seller and having to give up first born and an arm and a leg.
Nvidia is basically a drug cartel kingpin. Allegedly. I reeeeaaaally hope AMD get their ducks in a row and start competing on the enthusiast level. Nvidia is going full Sith Lord.
@TheEmperorSRB: Hey, they surprised us when they were the underdog and became a CPU competitor against Intel in the 90's. At that time, they "had no money". Look at them now. Don't be surprised if AMD has known about this "issue" for some time and will release new line of GPU's that will blow NVidia back a couple decades. AMD can be full of surprises when the times are right. This may be a right time for AMD to shine brighter and play harder ;)
I'd love to be that optimistic but by how they're acting, it doesn't seem likely any time soon. Most of their development budged for the last couple of years went to creating Ryzen and the Infinity Fabric. It's clear that they're trying to compete but they're still the underdog between two behemoths, so they can only fight one side at a time, and they decided it's going to be Intel for now. Hopefully, if Ryzen is not a one shot ( and it doesn't seem so ), they'll be able to fix themselves in place once again and spend some money on GPU's as well. But Nvidia is going to be pretty much free for the time being.
StevenHerbs hear hear. Amd have more money to make elsewhere tho. Government contracts, consoles, Intel contracts. Hopeful after all this they can afford more rnd
Nice GPUs you got there be a shame if you stop getting deliveries. But tell you what the boss say you join our little program and you be all good. Sound a little mob-y?
Or well, you can continue selling AMD cards, but not with the labels "Strix", "Aorus", "Gaming" on it. And probably also no colorful boxes for the shells. Put AMD in gray OEM boxes, or you won't get any nVidia chips. Mwhahaha - evil corp nVidia with leather jacket supervillan CEO.
Soon XFX and Sapphire will be the only AMD brands for GPUs left. Not that it would matter at the moment, there's not enough Stock of any GPUs at AMD and nVidia at the moment anyways. It gets sold no matter what.
Holy shit I forgot about HIS. My first dedicated GPU was a HIS Radeon X800GT PCI-E. Beautiful thing back in the days. The thing is, in my country HIS GPUs are sold nowhere any longer. I don't know why. I thought they went bankrupt but apparently they still do make GPUs. I remember also the days back when nVidias 6800GT were top-notch and XFX seemed to be? or was? nVidia exclusive.
I legit refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack. Thank god asia still has some form of sense and still includes it. Why a person would choose a headphone set that uses a frequency that cant ever hold tge quality of a wired headset ill never know.
mavis cruet *Keypads, not keyboards. Keypads are shit, that's why virtual touch keyboards replaced them. An actual keyboard is better than both in terms of typing ease, especially mech keyboards.
I am not entirely sure how you classifying things, but for about 7 years I had a phone with a keyboard, then after the HTC Desire Z it was very difficult to get one, except a Blackberry. And then it was all touch screens. I have watched managers try and take minutes on an iPad and look like utter dicks doing it. But if you're saying I had a keypad, then you're wrong about them being shit.
EVGA seems like the perfect example... Ever wondered WHY they only run nVidia GPU's? The GPP is hardly a new thing, it's just a new wrapper for an old thing.
jaystwocents covers this topic better, uses ASUS and MSI GPU packaging as a better visual description of what it could mean as well as bringing that intel had done the exact same thing and got fined an enormous amount for it. ruclips.net/video/HkqpRrzUxQI/видео.html
It's pretty telling how much Linus and Luke were contemplating LTT's mortality during the whole spiel. At the risk of anthropomorphising nvidia as a company, they do seem quite psychopathic..
They were already shitty with headphone jack. I mean the design is impractical af and outdated with this giant bezels top & bottom, their smartphone image sensors dominate the market, yet sony's smartphone cameras are among the worst, the features are outdated, the product naming scheme is a total mess, completely intransparent & confusing, etc... I could go on for days, why Sony is a terrible smartphone manufactere atm
LRM12o8 How about segmenting features to make a lot of lines and refusing to create an all out flagship, I adored the Z1 compact, my mom owns the Z5 compact, I would totally consider the ZX2 if they hadn't removed the aux port, it's seriously a deal breaker for me because there are no good dongle/wireless solutions that can replace a good old jack for all the wired headphones and speakers I have around the house
j.tv How? If everything stays as it was, why should anyone loose more or less money (except maybe Nvidia because they damaged their reputation even further)
Spoderskrillex Nvidia would probably not sell cards to them for some time because Nvidia would think someone would still join them. In that time all the other brands lose money because they don't have any cards to sell.
j.tv I don't think this is how it works. Nvidia wouldn't stop giving them GPUs, even if nobody signs up, because they don't want to lose money themselves. Anyways, according to Nvidia, there are already lots of companies that assigned to the GPP, so these speculations are pretty useless.
@45.50 - If it means anything, one of the main things I've always appreciated about you is your level of integrity, Linus; and this video is another demonstration of that. It's also why I've watched TotalBiscuit as well. A lot of people think he is self-righteous, but he puts the consumer first; and I think that is exactly what businesspeople need to do.
Privilege escalation is only one aspect of exploits. Persistence is an entirely different matter. Please don't be so foolish as to think requiring root means it's not an exploit. You'd get laughed out of any real security discussion. *If* the exploits are real, someone could reprogram critical security silicon in the CPU and embed malicious code. It'd be a permanent hardware rootkit on chip. It may not even be fixable at that point. That's not supposed to be possible, even when running in ring 0 (Bare metal). Correction: Although the vulnerabilities are confirmed by AMD, they say the claims were highly exaggerated and nothing will really come of these vulnerabilities, and that they will be patching via software shortly. My point about knowing what it means to exploit still stands though.
Ryan Claus they all require signed drivers access to the hardware there is literally no real exploit they showed that isn't blown way out of proportion even by other security firms they are going well it may have basis in reality but it's over blown and requires way to much physical access to be this blown up
exactly! yes there are "holes" in Zen but if you are requiring Administrative access along with even having to modify the BIOS you have bigger problems... like the fact that someone gained Administrative access and modified your BIOS.
Ok I just had to mention your tags for this video are great! I have watched a lot of Linus Tech vids and this was good on so many levels because you showed that you all are a business but you really care about giving people good tech information. I have even more respect for you after seeing this video.
Just trying to establish monopoly in any market segment is evil for customers and illegal. And this program is clearly an indirect effort to do exactly this. A cunning way though, not leaving many traces behind for now...
If Nvidia gets away with this, who knows what they'll ask for next. In other words, give 'em an inch, and they'll take a mile. Even if everything's all fine and dandy for us consumers now, like we just get a Strix N series of cards, an MSI Gaming N series, etc, and even if the extra marketing costs don't get reflected in the price tags of these cards, what about in the future when they start taking AiB partners or OEMs altogether (assuming that's not already happening). It's anti-competitive, it's asking for prejudice, and so as a consumer it's not good for me at all.
They will get away with it. Not enough people know or care, and their mindshare is so high they are the default option, even when better options are available, and that mindshare will just keep rising (especially with miners preferring AMD). While I don't expect AMD to vanish completely from the discrete market, their presence will keep dwindling and Radeon will be relegated to consoles, APUs, mobile and cloud. Doesn't even matter whether AMD makes a killer product or finds something worth suing nVidia over.
33:25 If you're talking about roughly 7 years ago when HD prices soared, that had nothing to do with lack of competition. That was about major flooding in SE Asia, where almost all HD's were manufactured. Plants were shut down, cutting supplies seriously short.
MarcoZ No it's actually one LCD panel with two backlights. That's why there were backlight bleed issues on the top. They just cut off the top left corner of the display for the two cameras.
I actually bought a 2017 Sony XA1 since it was cheap on black friday and you couldn't get anything better in that price range.Im pretty happy most of the time.
Headphone jack is nice to have for when I want to listen to music but if I had the money to invest in a phone that cost around $1000 I wouldn't have much trouble with investing some money into buying a cheap bluetooth set. I am alright with using an adapter for my 598's at home.
ok for you and I'm glad for you, but I instead hate compsuming battery life on a headset with bluetooth, while I'm not right shure that bluetooth won't give some radiations to our cells. we even found a bit late that SAR radiations cause brain damage or even tumors, so for me bluetooth headphones is a huge NO! instead if I pay 1000 bucks I want that f***in jack connector and with that money they should do even better than ip68
Yup, headphone jack is a must, adapter is not a solution, i like to charge my phone while playing music on my hi-fi at home and what about on the rd? As if i want to carry adapter around all the time.Many devices use headphone jack, one in particular i use is an anemometer for example.
FWIW, I am a North American that's bought Sony Xperia phones exclusively for the last 5 years or so. I like their minimal UI, the pop-up apps are handy, camera apps can be pretty cool, they're waterproof, have good battery life, and a physical 2 stage shutter button is nice for focusing. That said, I DEFINITELY want a traditional headphone jack and won't buy a phone that doesn't have it. I also think crazy high resolutions on a phone is pretty unnecessary unless you want to do VR with your phone.
thx for adressing this gpp stuff, i sence a very carefully crafted language here, and thats the problem, in this day and age one does not know how far one can go, without having to pay a price, whatever that may be. sounds like some pretty dark stuff.
This was a great show guys. Seemed like you were in a good mood despite the tough to talk about topics. Keep up the enthusiasm and positivity! Linus and Luke FTW
Remember 2 years ago Kyle at HardOCP pissed off AMD when he broke the story about Radeon graphics going into Intel CPUs, no one wanted to believe that one. And you glossed over the impact of Kaby Lake-G laptops, as well as OEMs
I like that Luke is back for WAN show. They are usually much better with him as a host. Although I do like when John is on also. I love watching every week. Thanks for the updates guys.
I think you guys are great! Thanks for the Nvidia data. Good to know. Also wanted to give you guys kudos for those vids on how to make money over the summer to buy a laptop. Great idea. Glad you're here.
Hey! First time listener! I have advice in terms of audio quality, it looks like you upload it "as it is" and that means that all lows are at low and highs are very loud (especially when there's laughing). It would be really appreciated if next time you would dp the audio so that all lows and highs are not as quiet/loud. Thanks in advance! x
Richard Lynch it's cause they spend all of it in the ps4 and ps4 exclusives (to get pple to buy a ps4). They probs had too much money and phones are just for fun
Is it possible to normalize your audio? I know it's live so maybe cannot be done, unless you edit the show and then upload it. The laughter can get MUCH louder than some of the quieter dialog. I'm finding myself fiddling with the volume a lot.
Like 3dfx labs 🤔 years ago and because nvidia brought out there assets everyone forgets they sued a year before and crashed there market share in the first place
I see. Thought it might have been about all those nvidia processes (part of gforce experience) that are running in the background (nvidia container etc) and eat up cpu usage
The CTS background thing Gamers Nexus did it in an episode yesterday or the day before. He found all of it etc and showed it all to be a joke! It's all a scam by stock traders to, as you said short the market. If this is proven AMD are going to go to town on them! Lol!!!
Scott Hanlon Yeah, that whole Viceroy Research/CTS Labs operation has been such a radical display of ineptitude that I'm starting to believe AMD might be behind the curtain, running a reverse psycology publicity stunt.
It's interesting and kind of silly at the same time yeah? And you really think AMD is behind it? Maybe. We'll just have to wait and see I guess, but it's seriously doubtful at this stage. "Israel" really? About as much credability as %#^% on a stick! lol
what if it's Nvidia behind it trying to shore up their near monopoly by dragging the only real competition through the mud. Seems about as likely as AMD being behind something that could be this bad...
Yeah, I don't really believe this goes beyond Viceroy. But their minions at CTS "Labs" released such an amatuerish "white paper", and bungled the announcement with an unrealistic and unjustified schedule and Viceroy was so eager to strike while the iron was hot that they didn't worry about it looked to release a major article at the same time as the scientific announcement that it was supposibly based upon. They claimed to have received an "anonamous e-mail"- from someone on a research team with less than ten people on it. It just all looks like a very poorly executed plot by Viceroy to attack AMD. For all I know, these could be real vulnerabilities that need to be fixed, but the way Viceroy/CTS went about annoncing them was not legitimate at all.
EA is a different field of asshole-antics, these guys are forcing companies at gunpoint while EA is trying to squeeze money out of vulnerable children playing games through microtransactions.
Ranger Furby Nvidia is more like a mob boss scaring everyone into submission, while EA is that guy with a "free candy" van who robs you of everything you have as soon as you get near.
We do this because when summer arrives we find that setting the clock forward by 1 hour will give us more daylight, hence the name daylight saving time. Almost all electronics connected to the internet switch the time automatically. Windows, macOS, Linux, Android, iOS, cable boxes, all switch time automatically. Analog clocks on the walls, ovens, and microwaves need to be changed manually, it's not that difficult.
Timestamps
4:40 Sony Ditches Headphone Jack
12:54 GeForce Partner Program
43:59 Sponsor: Spektrum Glasses
45:47 Spnosor: Freshbooks
46:40 Linus Realizes That Not Much Was Accomplished
48:08 Floatplane
50:15 Security Flaws in Ryzen
55:25 Famous People Play Video Games
55:31 EA is Turning Battlefront 2 Into a Real Game
56:30 Fast Rando Topics
57:25 Outro
Nolan Wagoner I was looking for this
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Nolan Wagoner thank you
good shit, get this to #1 pls
Thanks!
00:04:36 - Sony removed headphone jack from Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 Compact
00:12:50 - GeForce Partner Program
00:43:52 - Sponsor: Spektrum Glasses
00:45:45 - Sponsor: Freshbooks
00:48:05 - Floatplane
00:50:10 - Security flaw discovered in Zen processors
00:55:27 - EA turning Star Wars Battlefront II into a real game
00:56:08 - Free games from Twitch Prime
00:57:10 - Broadcom not buying Qualcomm
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nigga its in the description
I am shocked, SHOCKED, to discover that a near monopoly provider will leverage that position to the detriment of everyone in their orbit.
Ben Richards detriment? How?
increased prices on GPU's,(the 1060, 1070 etc were more expensive than the previous gen of cards), exclusive technology that raises prices of monitors by upwards of 300 dollars, etc etc. No competition is always a bad thing.
Maybe this will hurt NVidia in the end and show them they can't do this kind of move without repercussions themselves
Korishan Maybe... but just look at other monopolies, such as De Beers diamonds and Luxottica, they have done these kinds of things with almost no repercussions...
and that's is why their stock is skyrocking for YEARS. AMD has no chance, we'll not see any competition till NVDA is in every single AI sectror of the future. We're screwed and we can only hope their products keep being technically proficient.
nVidia is talking up a lot of "transparency" for a company that hasn't publicly released the terms of their partner program...
what makes it even look more like hollow marketing propaganda phrases and blatan lies.
Luke refering to Umbridge seems like a really accurate comparison
there was a comment on the hardware unboxed video; "Nvidia GPP so transparent, noone can see it" :p
NVidia transparency appears to be a lot like barack hussein odumbos transparency administration LOL
+lordraptor11 You're just not funny mate
wasn't meant to be funny it was a fact odumbos administration was only transparent to people with brains who could see what was right in front of them. personally I'm more interested in how these youtubers can sleep at night making vids of how gpus are so hard to get yet they have a shelf on the wall behind them full of gpus that are still in boxes not being used when they could be given to us gamers who are currently fucked with failing GPU's and unable to get one without buying from an unauthorized seller and having to give up first born and an arm and a leg.
Nvidia is basically a drug cartel kingpin. Allegedly. I reeeeaaaally hope AMD get their ducks in a row and start competing on the enthusiast level. Nvidia is going full Sith Lord.
You misspelled Shit. ;}
StevenHerbs
I doubt we'll see any exceptional GPU's from AMD any time soon, they simply just don't have money for it.
@TheEmperorSRB: Hey, they surprised us when they were the underdog and became a CPU competitor against Intel in the 90's. At that time, they "had no money". Look at them now. Don't be surprised if AMD has known about this "issue" for some time and will release new line of GPU's that will blow NVidia back a couple decades. AMD can be full of surprises when the times are right. This may be a right time for AMD to shine brighter and play harder ;)
I'd love to be that optimistic but by how they're acting, it doesn't seem likely any time soon.
Most of their development budged for the last couple of years went to creating Ryzen and the Infinity Fabric.
It's clear that they're trying to compete but they're still the underdog between two behemoths, so they can only fight one side at a time, and they decided it's going to be Intel for now. Hopefully, if Ryzen is not a one shot ( and it doesn't seem so ), they'll be able to fix themselves in place once again and spend some money on GPU's as well.
But Nvidia is going to be pretty much free for the time being.
StevenHerbs hear hear. Amd have more money to make elsewhere tho. Government contracts, consoles, Intel contracts. Hopeful after all this they can afford more rnd
"He's (Berkel) an action man... Probably more action-ey in his pants" - Luke 2018
The instant regret about saying that was magnificent.
Nice GPUs you got there be a shame if you stop getting deliveries. But tell you what the boss say you join our little program and you be all good. Sound a little mob-y?
...and those AMD cards you're selling... those need to disappear if you want to continue our "partnership". -Nvidia
Or well, you can continue selling AMD cards, but not with the labels "Strix", "Aorus", "Gaming" on it. And probably also no colorful boxes for the shells. Put AMD in gray OEM boxes, or you won't get any nVidia chips. Mwhahaha - evil corp nVidia with leather jacket supervillan CEO.
Soon XFX and Sapphire will be the only AMD brands for GPUs left.
Not that it would matter at the moment, there's not enough Stock of any GPUs at AMD and nVidia at the moment anyways. It gets sold no matter what.
+Fabian Tschopp No live for HIS AMd GPUs?
Holy shit I forgot about HIS. My first dedicated GPU was a HIS Radeon X800GT PCI-E. Beautiful thing back in the days.
The thing is, in my country HIS GPUs are sold nowhere any longer. I don't know why. I thought they went bankrupt but apparently they still do make GPUs.
I remember also the days back when nVidias 6800GT were top-notch and XFX seemed to be? or was? nVidia exclusive.
The GeForce Partner Program is an offer you can't refuse.
quite literally, lol
lol good one
Ehhh uhh, that's a real nice brand ya got there...be a shame if somethin happened to it.
nVidia topic starts at around 14:50. Keeps going past 25:30.
I almost died at 47:53 - So did Linus x'D
I legit refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack. Thank god asia still has some form of sense and still includes it. Why a person would choose a headphone set that uses a frequency that cant ever hold tge quality of a wired headset ill never know.
Lord Karnage BB Japan is asia tho
Well actual keyboards are superior to touch ones, look what happened to them.
mavis cruet
*Keypads, not keyboards.
Keypads are shit, that's why virtual touch keyboards replaced them. An actual keyboard is better than both in terms of typing ease, especially mech keyboards.
I am not entirely sure how you classifying things, but for about 7 years I had a phone with a keyboard, then after the HTC Desire Z it was very difficult to get one, except a Blackberry. And then it was all touch screens. I have watched managers try and take minutes on an iPad and look like utter dicks doing it. But if you're saying I had a keypad, then you're wrong about them being shit.
WhiteRice for a phone? sure. but a pc/tablet? nope.
EVGA was a horrible example, as they only make nvidia gpu's anyways. They have no reason not to sign up. Asus is a MUCH better example
James Mastroianni my thoughts exactly. Like MSI and Gigabyte
Meh. I'm gonna buy xfx next purchase.
EVGA seems like the perfect example... Ever wondered WHY they only run nVidia GPU's? The GPP is hardly a new thing, it's just a new wrapper for an old thing.
jaystwocents covers this topic better, uses ASUS and MSI GPU packaging as a better visual description of what it could mean as well as bringing that intel had done the exact same thing and got fined an enormous amount for it. ruclips.net/video/HkqpRrzUxQI/видео.html
HorRodX xfx only makes amd cards, they made nvidia cards at one point, but due to disagreements they won't work with eachother
that whole geforce section made me feel dirty
It's pretty telling how much Linus and Luke were contemplating LTT's mortality during the whole spiel. At the risk of anthropomorphising nvidia as a company, they do seem quite psychopathic..
It's funny how the main tech news stories these days are rooted in corporate greed: Intel, nvidia, EA...
The sheeps are starting to become self-aware.
I would buy a Sony phone but not now after the removal of headphone jack
They were already shitty with headphone jack.
I mean the design is impractical af and outdated with this giant bezels top & bottom, their smartphone image sensors dominate the market, yet sony's smartphone cameras are among the worst, the features are outdated, the product naming scheme is a total mess, completely intransparent & confusing, etc...
I could go on for days, why Sony is a terrible smartphone manufactere atm
LRM12o8 How about segmenting features to make a lot of lines and refusing to create an all out flagship, I adored the Z1 compact, my mom owns the Z5 compact, I would totally consider the ZX2 if they hadn't removed the aux port, it's seriously a deal breaker for me because there are no good dongle/wireless solutions that can replace a good old jack for all the wired headphones and speakers I have around the house
This adds a highlight to my week. An hour, or so, of banter and chat that lifts the weight from the week endured.
But what about Tunnelbear tho?
they got bought by mcaffe
mike wazowski succ They have good coffee
McAfee got bought by Intel which then got separated as a subsidiary but is still directly owned by Intel.
they talked about it last week
Can you zoom out slightly in the profile pic pls
You should add the poll to this youtube video as a card :) Would be very interesting
Welcome from 2022 where EVGA fully agrees with this message
i really like the way you dont use limiting or compression on the sound so it ranges from inaudible to really loud, classy...
If all board partners band together and refuse to join the gpp, Nvidia would have to change the terms without any legal intervention
TheMegaInferno And all of them would likely lose millions or even billions
j.tv How? If everything stays as it was, why should anyone loose more or less money (except maybe Nvidia because they damaged their reputation even further)
Spoderskrillex Nvidia would probably not sell cards to them for some time because Nvidia would think someone would still join them. In that time all the other brands lose money because they don't have any cards to sell.
j.tv I don't think this is how it works. Nvidia wouldn't stop giving them GPUs, even if nobody signs up, because they don't want to lose money themselves. Anyways, according to Nvidia, there are already lots of companies that assigned to the GPP, so these speculations are pretty useless.
Spoderskrillex it’s all speculation so you shouldn’t be forming an opinion based on it.
@45.50 - If it means anything, one of the main things I've always appreciated about you is your level of integrity, Linus; and this video is another demonstration of that. It's also why I've watched TotalBiscuit as well. A lot of people think he is self-righteous, but he puts the consumer first; and I think that is exactly what businesspeople need to do.
"It requires root access to exploit." Lolwut? So... it's not an exploit. At all. Wtf, get that shit outta my face.
Privilege escalation is only one aspect of exploits. Persistence is an entirely different matter. Please don't be so foolish as to think requiring root means it's not an exploit. You'd get laughed out of any real security discussion.
*If* the exploits are real, someone could reprogram critical security silicon in the CPU and embed malicious code. It'd be a permanent hardware rootkit on chip. It may not even be fixable at that point. That's not supposed to be possible, even when running in ring 0 (Bare metal).
Correction: Although the vulnerabilities are confirmed by AMD, they say the claims were highly exaggerated and nothing will really come of these vulnerabilities, and that they will be patching via software shortly. My point about knowing what it means to exploit still stands though.
Ryan Claus they all require signed drivers access to the hardware there is literally no real exploit they showed that isn't blown way out of proportion even by other security firms they are going well it may have basis in reality but it's over blown and requires way to much physical access to be this blown up
exactly! yes there are "holes" in Zen but if you are requiring Administrative access along with even having to modify the BIOS you have bigger problems... like the fact that someone gained Administrative access and modified your BIOS.
Ok I just had to mention your tags for this video are great! I have watched a lot of Linus Tech vids and this was good on so many levels because you showed that you all are a business but you really care about giving people good tech information. I have even more respect for you after seeing this video.
The Anandtech phone interview with CTS labs is an interesting read. I would highly recommend anyone reads it.
It was 3 am when you released this. I'm in South Africa. Love your channel guys, but I loved my sleep more. XD!
Just trying to establish monopoly in any market segment is evil for customers and illegal. And this program is clearly an indirect effort to do exactly this. A cunning way though, not leaving many traces behind for now...
Monopoly stance = communism
I've had that "server room" stock picture as part of my friggin desktop background slideshow for YEARS.
If Nvidia gets away with this, who knows what they'll ask for next. In other words, give 'em an inch, and they'll take a mile.
Even if everything's all fine and dandy for us consumers now, like we just get a Strix N series of cards, an MSI Gaming N series, etc, and even if the extra marketing costs don't get reflected in the price tags of these cards, what about in the future when they start taking AiB partners or OEMs altogether (assuming that's not already happening).
It's anti-competitive, it's asking for prejudice, and so as a consumer it's not good for me at all.
They will get away with it. Not enough people know or care, and their mindshare is so high they are the default option, even when better options are available, and that mindshare will just keep rising (especially with miners preferring AMD). While I don't expect AMD to vanish completely from the discrete market, their presence will keep dwindling and Radeon will be relegated to consoles, APUs, mobile and cloud. Doesn't even matter whether AMD makes a killer product or finds something worth suing nVidia over.
33:25 If you're talking about roughly 7 years ago when HD prices soared, that had nothing to do with lack of competition. That was about major flooding in SE Asia, where almost all HD's were manufactured. Plants were shut down, cutting supplies seriously short.
Allegedly? Since when is it allegedly?
Some Things In Life Since Nvidia pays Linus
Rafał Mirek Naah...Linus still has a dick and balls.
Sony is quite big in Europe (was as big as Samsung like 2-3 years back in Poland)
Chinese Xiaomi and huawei are the most popular phone brands at the moment.
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Best wan show in a while. It's nice when you actually want to discuss the topics.
I wish I could care about Sony phones, but it's so hard to find one in the US.
But the NA ones miss the fingerprint sensor
Don't think I've even seen a sony cell since 2005
For me the camera kills them.
@Péter Friedrich The camera is literally the same as in several other brands, because others buy the cameras from sony...
aquaraider11 I know, yet somehow all other flagships take better photos.
The first phone with a notch was actually the LG V10.
Lim Chee Hean that was actually a second display. Main one is LCD, secondary is OLED so it can stay always on.
Essential phone too before the IPhone
MarcoZ No it's actually one LCD panel with two backlights. That's why there were backlight bleed issues on the top. They just cut off the top left corner of the display for the two cameras.
Allegedly Tech Tips
I actually bought a 2017 Sony XA1 since it was cheap on black friday and you couldn't get anything better in that price range.Im pretty happy most of the time.
MY current phone is sony, Water proof and headphone jack, hell yeah.
Dedicated camera button is the main selling point for me!
Its water resistant, not water proof. Better not test it though. The warranty does not cover water damage
currently have a galaxy s8
also waterproof and headphone Jack
but it has less bezel than Sony, that's something sony still does really well :/
great show been watching since day one
17:02 No viruses, good job Linus.
Always appreciate Linus for the true result or feedback on product.
Take me drunk I’m home guys
I drank then i woke up im fine
I honestly did not expect you to be critical of the nCrappya Partner Program. Good on you.
Can't say this enough: I hope Luke is here to stay on WAN show. Though I'll never complain whenever Laser James comes on.
Pete Martinez
Luke + Laser James is good, too
LUKE AND LASERJAMES 2018!
We don't want phones without headphone jack. We need that f%$£g conectivity. I guess I talk in the name of 80% of people on this entire planet.
Headphone jack is nice to have for when I want to listen to music but if I had the money to invest in a phone that cost around $1000 I wouldn't have much trouble with investing some money into buying a cheap bluetooth set. I am alright with using an adapter for my 598's at home.
ok for you and I'm glad for you, but I instead hate compsuming battery life on a headset with bluetooth, while I'm not right shure that bluetooth won't give some radiations to our cells. we even found a bit late that SAR radiations cause brain damage or even tumors, so for me bluetooth headphones is a huge NO! instead if I pay 1000 bucks I want that f***in jack connector and with that money they should do even better than ip68
oh, that's one thing I'm talking about. plus how less costs a decent jack headset. there's no way to gap the difference
Yup, headphone jack is a must, adapter is not a solution, i like to charge my phone while playing music on my hi-fi at home and what about on the rd? As if i want to carry adapter around all the time.Many devices use headphone jack, one in particular i use is an anemometer for example.
You can swear here, it's okay
FWIW, I am a North American that's bought Sony Xperia phones exclusively for the last 5 years or so. I like their minimal UI, the pop-up apps are handy, camera apps can be pretty cool, they're waterproof, have good battery life, and a physical 2 stage shutter button is nice for focusing. That said, I DEFINITELY want a traditional headphone jack and won't buy a phone that doesn't have it. I also think crazy high resolutions on a phone is pretty unnecessary unless you want to do VR with your phone.
thx for adressing this gpp stuff, i sence a very carefully crafted language here, and thats the problem, in this day and age one does not know how far one can go, without having to pay a price, whatever that may be. sounds like some pretty dark stuff.
This was a great show guys. Seemed like you were in a good mood despite the tough to talk about topics. Keep up the enthusiasm and positivity! Linus and Luke FTW
lol Sony. Those reasons for removing the audio jack look like a bad joke.
Both their "reasons" basically boiled down to essentially "we copied Apple, so it's OK because we copied Apple."
steps in the storage section of computing Optane>SSD>Hard Drive
You can poll on a RUclips Post.
Captinprocat Yep
Captinprocat sarcasm doesn't work over text
Captinprocat perhaps you need a class on sarcasm
that was sarcasm? or was it? i don't know it doesn't work over text
Captinprocat perhaps you should tell your cat to teach you sarcasm
"We're so bad we're early!"
Y'all are the best
Nvida GPP: 12:44
Thanks. :)
Had to turn of this weeks episode at 17mins. Luke's laughatron hit a good 9/10 this week.
Allegedly the WAN show is pre recorded
Neo Allegedly, alleging something was a meme this WAN show.
Alleged tech tips
24:00 I've GOT ONE!!!! good ol 2008 build and it still runs today : >
Well, I guess I'm not going to consider buying a Sony Xperia now.
Thanks for the honesty Linus and Luke :) Great and enjoyable content as always... Keep up the great work ^^
Remember 2 years ago Kyle at HardOCP pissed off AMD when he broke the story about Radeon graphics going into Intel CPUs, no one wanted to believe that one.
And you glossed over the impact of Kaby Lake-G laptops, as well as OEMs
I like that Luke is back for WAN show. They are usually much better with him as a host. Although I do like when John is on also. I love watching every week. Thanks for the updates guys.
Everybody screaming for timestamps
I think you guys are great! Thanks for the Nvidia data. Good to know. Also wanted to give you guys kudos for those vids on how to make money over the summer to buy a laptop. Great idea. Glad you're here.
NCIXcom purchase doc?
Yeah I noticed that too, and a IP Holdings for LMG and NCIX
I seen it too
I think they are just trolling us. They know there is a big cry from their viewers to purchase nvix in a way.
You missed the ad for Shave Club!
> Real game
> Microtransactions
Pick one. (Free-to-play exempt)
Real game.
16:15 "actually DIFFERENT CARDS YEAH ! yeah Yeah." Awww so cute
#RIPLTT
Sony: "We removed the headphone jack to get our beautiful and seamless design"
phone looks like shit*
WAN in under an hour?
Hey! First time listener! I have advice in terms of audio quality, it looks like you upload it "as it is" and that means that all lows are at low and highs are very loud (especially when there's laughing). It would be really appreciated if next time you would dp the audio so that all lows and highs are not as quiet/loud. Thanks in advance! x
Sony's problem is they release really really good products and they do not invest in advertising...
Richard Lynch it's cause they spend all of it in the ps4 and ps4 exclusives (to get pple to buy a ps4). They probs had too much money and phones are just for fun
The Nvidia tin in the background is really fitting for this video.
this is what happen when nvidia joins with Nintendo.
Glad to see you be on the level about NVIDIA. I thought it was well done.
fuccboi Nvidia
Luke trying to suppress his yawns is me in every damn meeting at 05:00 am x)
hey linus,, take a vacation?
Is it possible to normalize your audio? I know it's live so maybe cannot be done, unless you edit the show and then upload it. The laughter can get MUCH louder than some of the quieter dialog. I'm finding myself fiddling with the volume a lot.
Like 3dfx labs 🤔 years ago and because nvidia brought out there assets everyone forgets they sued a year before and crashed there market share in the first place
TheGarage Gaming Voodoo an TNT those were the days
Jon A yeah man i remember throwing my first dual cards and power adopter away after people finding them hard to get know days 😭
Jon A while playing unreal tornment quake 3 arena and deus ex at 1024 with no lag while my friend's via graphic was too slow to run
Transparency man, we need more of it and anyone who beats around the bush is hiding something.
What's that about geforce experience Luke talks about at 19:40? Can someone point me to the video they talk about that? Thanks!
Andrew Wires they made it so you need to create an account or log in with facebook or google to use it.
+batt3ryac1d What’s so bad about that?
Random Person pretty nasty
I see. Thought it might have been about all those nvidia processes (part of gforce experience) that are running in the background (nvidia container etc) and eat up cpu usage
Excellent camera positioning today. Leave the camera and chairs exactly like this!
Sigh...Sony
It's crazy how much WAN show makes me laugh
86 green zealots don't like this stream
When Linus starts saying how he has not heard something. You can just imagine John sitting upstairs facepalming over and over again.. :D
Show time 😍😍✅
00:48:15 - Luke looses it... I spray coffee on my desk! Classic LTT
That’s rape
Allegedly best meme of the day. Watched second half on Twitch so I could see the chat replay 😂
The CTS background thing Gamers Nexus did it in an episode yesterday or the day before. He found all of it etc and showed it all to be a joke! It's all a scam by stock traders to, as you said short the market. If this is proven AMD are going to go to town on them! Lol!!!
Scott Hanlon Yeah, that whole Viceroy Research/CTS Labs operation has been such a radical display of ineptitude that I'm starting to believe AMD might be behind the curtain, running a reverse psycology publicity stunt.
It's interesting and kind of silly at the same time yeah? And you really think AMD is behind it? Maybe. We'll just have to wait and see I guess, but it's seriously doubtful at this stage. "Israel" really? About as much credability as %#^% on a stick! lol
what if it's Nvidia behind it trying to shore up their near monopoly by dragging the only real competition through the mud. Seems about as likely as AMD being behind something that could be this bad...
Yeah, I don't really believe this goes beyond Viceroy. But their minions at CTS "Labs" released such an amatuerish "white paper", and bungled the announcement with an unrealistic and unjustified schedule and Viceroy was so eager to strike while the iron was hot that they didn't worry about it looked to release a major article at the same time as the scientific announcement that it was supposibly based upon. They claimed to have received an "anonamous e-mail"- from someone on a research team with less than ten people on it. It just all looks like a very poorly executed plot by Viceroy to attack AMD. For all I know, these could be real vulnerabilities that need to be fixed, but the way Viceroy/CTS went about annoncing them was not legitimate at all.
Exactly! Totally agree!
"(partners can) stop participating at any time"
I cackled at that one.
they're starting to sound like EA
Heh, starting to...
EA is a different field of asshole-antics, these guys are forcing companies at gunpoint while EA is trying to squeeze money out of vulnerable children playing games through microtransactions.
Ranger Furby
Nvidia is more like a mob boss scaring everyone into submission, while EA is that guy with a "free candy" van who robs you of everything you have as soon as you get near.
Grabbed a XZ Premium over the S8 or Iphone and am pretty happy with it
360p squad
Why are you listed in the wrong category ....
Category Autos & Vehicles
License Standard RUclips License
Sounds hawt.
Thanks for the business lesson
Wait .. wtf .. so early ?
Here in Canada, we have something called Daylight Savings Time, where we turn the clock forward by 1 hour. It's also in the US.
Which is extra confusing in Australia when our DST is about to go the other way! The show jumps all over the place.
How do you keep track of time ? .. do you have to change the time on your clocks everytime ?
Yup change clocks. Sept Arizona
We do this because when summer arrives we find that setting the clock forward by 1 hour will give us more daylight, hence the name daylight saving time.
Almost all electronics connected to the internet switch the time automatically. Windows, macOS, Linux, Android, iOS, cable boxes, all switch time automatically. Analog clocks on the walls, ovens, and microwaves need to be changed manually, it's not that difficult.