If I lost a loved one the same way and it was the same scenario. I would start off by thanking everyone and Spain for taking their time to search. Ultimately most people are not even fit enough to carry out a search like this! Its an unfortunate finding but at least show some appreciation for those people who have helped.
What I want to know is why did Jay attempt an 11 hour walk back to where his friends were? Who in their right mind would do that? And what kind of friends would let him?
I've tried to do a ridiculous walk like that while drunk. So imagine being drunk and coming down from mdma. They aren't called psychoactive drugs for nothing you simpleton
This reaction is quite ridiculous. Look at the terrain , they had to get a helicopter to bring him out. It was rough ground and not flat. It was lucky he was seen, located or even found at all. There exactly is the answer and why go in an unfamiliar place without the communication capabilities, alone and miles from where he was going. He was an adult after all things considered. Local authorities are not responsible for tourists who wander off.
Why have they only just discovered the body? Those who ask this have not seen the mountains of Tenerife. The mountains are very steep, riddled with water run offs and covered in thick tangled vegetation. There are crevices everywhere and the ground is not always stable. And it can be very hot or very cold depending upon the cloud cover. It is possible to walk up a path and not even realise there is a steep drop. Once you fall you vanish into the undergrowth. The mountain rescue found the remains only because they really understand the terrain.
@@StellaKnightsThat's literally what the OP said in his comment, if you actually bothered to read it. He wasn't asking the question because he didn't know, he was asking it to answer it. Read his answer again.
Except Rescue Teams Dogs and Tech Covered this Area at Least 3 Times Yet just Feet away A Body was Found I don't buy that This Case is Weird Fishy not Right Starting with this Young Man's strange Weird uncaring Family Pals they Came out for Weeks and Did What ? And his Dad waited for 2 Weeks then came out and Slagged off the Clone Police Yet after a Few Hours he went off as well Hope no more money was given to this Family
Yeah I saw the same, how tf is she a senior when she seems like a working student was pulled over and its their first attempt. Is the Sun so bad they cannot attract any talent?
I live on the Canary islands and often walk the trails in the volcanic mountains. It is very dangerous to go off the paths and take short cuts. The ground is loose the rocks are razor sharp as well as the cactus. No local would attempt any type of short cut. There are many narrow revines that you could easily slip down and unless the rescuers have mountain equipment ropes ect to scale down these gorges it's nearly impossible to find anything or anybody without specialist equipment. It is not a walk in the park.
That's not the point: they had helicopters etc but couldn't find a body yards from last known location. That's the story, not that razor sharp rocks are dangerous, we already know that.
@@tipi5586 Too many youtubers, tik tok users and people sitting in front of a computer that have no idea what they are talking about, i suggest you go there and see for yourself its the proverbial needle in a haystack
@@tipi5586Have you ever been to Tenerife? The cactus growth and vegetation is thick. Very thick. A helicopter crew wouldn't see through it. You know nothing of the geography of the area.
Jeez - she there - go to the spot and see how difficult it is - i know it natural to want to blame someone but Spanish police spent a fortune, imported dogs - risked their own lives in deadly terrain to help find her son that maybe it wouldnt haopen if he wasnt on class A drugs all night - she should he thankful to the spanish police not chastize them
@@guyyates4038they did ffs. Firstly, phone pings give off a radius of an area to search, on an exact dot on where the phone is. Secondly the area he was found was inaccessible, they used machetes to cut through thick brush. This would be hard to do and take a long time. Use your brain.
@@riannaanoffif you used yours maybe it would have occurred to you that he has been missing for nearly a month and that the radius given off by the phone and the space from that radius he could realistically have walked should be their first point for a search and that area wouldn't take a month to search even if they had to hack through bushes and plants so the question remains why didn't they search there first?!?
@@guyyates4038 Muchas personas arriesgaron su vida buscando en un lugar dificil , se usaron helicopteros , brigadas de perros para encontrar a un delincuente que iba campo a traves por si lo buscaban los amigos a los que habia robado el rolex y tu te crees mas listo cuando lo que tu dices es lo primero que se hizo , siempre habla un tonto .
@@manuelsolo1339 @manuelsolo1339 OK we are dealing with Google translate here so some things can be lost in translation but do you have a link to show he was a criminal or that they did what you just said they did because if so fair enough but from here it just sounds like your making stuff up
I don’t believe that his mum actually said anything like that.Probably something like “thank you very much for the incredible effort you put into finding my silly boy “
That must be the worse, lost in a foreign country, dehydrated, alone, and no battery on your phone to ask for help, i hope all the young kids learn from this, going out boozing and putting themselves in these situations every weekend you're playing with fire. First of all become sensible when drinking you dont need to get paralytic to have fun, never abandon/leave your friends behind, always let someone know where you're going before hand.
Why are you saying this like all young people will attempt an 11 hour walk in a foreign country while drunk? RIP to Jay but it’s a poor decision most won’t take. People barely wanna walk an hour when sober as is.
Y si lo hace mal , que su madre por lo menos tenga un " GRACIAS " para las personas que arriesgaron su vida buscandolo en una zona muy , muy peligrosa y gracias a quien desplazó brigadas de perros especializados en buscar personas vivas y perros especializados en buscar personas muertas ademas de especialistas en parapente y 2 helicopteros ...... todo para buscar a un niño que estaba en la isla robando .
He was a 19yr old who just thought he could down and reach the beach area, it's quite dangerous as you cannot see where your stepping, and it's hard to find a body in there as it's full of high falls and lots of hidden spaces, she should be grateful they put themselves in danger to find her boy
@@awalk5177 anything that takes the time that takes hours, in another country that isn’t yours is stupidity. 40miles is still a good few hours. And so what if it’s 40 miles. What was he doing even thinking he can walk that. I’m so over this story, literally right now in the uk their are 120 children missing not one of them on the news
@@Letstalk295exactly obviously this is sad but its down to his own stupidity. I knew there was others but 120 wow. So sad cant believe this one story got so much attention but we haven’t seen any of these other missing people on the news🤦🏻♂️
@@awalk5177 40 miles is the distance from masca to his accommodation. about 11 hours under ideal conditions. the terrain was not ideal and he was not in good condition, the walk would have taken considerably longer. if at all possible without water.
To be blunt ,anyone who has walked through the countryside ,even if they can’t see ,they will smell the decomposition ,and they were supposed to have sniffer dogs as well
Here in the Pyrenees, missing persons are found within hours, given the perfect conditions they had in Tenerife, and that is with all the tree coverage we have here. Dogs will listen and smell and, aided with the slightest breeze, indicate if there is a human presence at the bottom of the deepest chasm. Jay's festering remains would have been detected atop the chasm immediately. Guardia Civil are protecting someone very very high up.
Rescue Teams Dogs Tech Covered this Area at Least 3 Times Yet each Time they all just missed the Body by a Few feet I Don't Buy that This Case is Fishy Not Right including his Family Pals
People are saying stuff on him and his family because of his working class background, stop it. Britain needs to stop being so discriminatory towards its own people even sheeesh. Have some sympathy for the poor family they just lost their young son, whatever youthful trouble he got into, he was still their son, he’s just a young silly lad. Honestly have some shame people. Condolences to the mother and family
@@giakolou2876 it’s not discriminatory, the text messages between him and another girl who was also selling drugs for money on his holiday got out. He lost a decent amount and ran away out of fear. Looks like they caught up to him in the end. Poor family. Yes. Silly boy. Yes. But discrimination is the opposite of what this is
I feel so sorry for his mum dad and family. I had a brother die alone and my mum found him dead. It's the worst heart ache for a mother. I hope she stays strong and may time heal her pain.
He should have made sure his phone was fully charged, and after going off 20 miles away with people he didnt know (drug buying probably), he shouldnt have decided to walk back, across the mountains. His own fault. His mum should stop trying to blame others. She will milk this now, she'll be on all tv news, with tears of course.
I dont know why you keep saying close to his final phone ping , it really wasnt that close and given the terrain it isnt surprising its taken this long to find him
Exactly. I've heard it was a good 20 minutes away from that last phone ping. That's a very long distance when were talking about that very difficult terrain
@@liammurphy2022 not while watching the Euros Final on Sunday night! who do you think was checking to see if a body bag was being winched down a gorge while Spain and England were tied at 1-1?
To answer the question why now, generally once the searchers have moved away and the area has quieted down, you leave individuals to observe and the birds will show where the body is as they come in to scavenge.
@@melgrant7404 It's tragically quite true. As the years go by and second hand experience.. There's just something about being British, being a middle aged woman and being a conspiracy theorist.
I think He’s left in the morning more than likely on a huge come down from the drugs/drink, wanted to get home, the bus wasn’t for 2 hours and he’s thought he will walk instead of waiting - he most probably thought of taking a short cut off the path and ultimately walked into immediate danger, he was dehydrated and I bet it was really hot weather and he has either fallen down and been injured and not been able to get back up or he’s passed out. Either way, he’s a young lad that’s probably made a silly decision and it’s cost him his life but my heart goes out to him and his family. This must be torture for them. I hope he rests in peace, and the family now get some peace also
Demands answers ? Humans today Your lucky you get help when a loved one goes missing Your lucky you get free health care Your lucky you live in a country you can get free housing We sometimes overlook life and how lucky we are and the times we live Be grateful you had help and people giving up there time In life S**t happens unfortunately But to then blame the help 👎🏽
This is what happens when you are venturing yourself dehydrated, without having the physical capability, adequate equipment nor the knowledge about the surroundings, especially after a sleepless night filled with booze. The nature is ruthless and everyone should learn from this poor guy’s mistake. I feel very sorry for him and mostly for his family as they will have to live with it. May the Lord rest him in peace!😢
Well if you are unfamiliar with the territory then I guess you would not understand? A helicopter struggled to retreive him so hikers and even skilled climbers would have found it almost impossible. There are lots of "scenarios" I guess but perhaps the Coroner will settle peoples minds a little? This must be awful for Jays family but at least they can find a closure .
No matter what the coroner says or even if there is irrefutable proof that he just fell by himself, conspiracists will still cry "it doesn't add up!!!"
The blanket he's wearing in the 7.30 photo doesn't add up. It's from his room in Los Christianos and seen in earlier photos. So if he never went back to his room, How did it get to Masca. I think he overdosed night before.
The answer’s possibly more straightforward than you could ever imagine, and comes down to nothing more than timing , in circumstances like this where a story is hyped and sensationalised, only to have the solution realised at a later date and time only minutes from the last sighting, contact, whatever, it’s been used as a distraction to draw attention from another issue .
So so baffled. WHO leaves their friend in a foreign country high as girrafe balls to walk back 11 hours. Either someone's not telling the truth or something is amiss. Even on drugs you are still somewhat self aware. The fact he went up into the mountains suggets fight or flight 🤷♂️. Yeah ive been on all sorts myself and still been aware to know who and where i am so dont say youre not aware. Lad didnt think he was at home now did he? Clearly knew what he was doing to some degree.
tbf, the greek cameraman that spotted Dr Michael Mosleys body in Symi also noted that he & his crew had observed the search & rescue teams there, pass directly over the spot where _he_ was eventually located - several times & yet they never once seen him either. It must just be that certain types of terrain can obscure even someone laying in plain sight.
Don't trust the people he went with. Lucy couldn't even look at the camera when talking about him being missing and wanting him back.. Alot of holes in this.. How the hell did they not see him the first day they looked there.. It could have saved this poor lad and his family from heart ache.
He wasn’t in view or in an area that was easy to access, look at the video that’s been released of the area he was found. It was in a deep revine no one is getting down there without the right equipment or knowledge of that sort of area. The poor lads fell and couldn’t get back up they’ve said it would be impossible to get back up. The body had to be airlifted out
They keep saying he was so close to the last known location but then others saying he had walked far into the ravine. I think they should just say where he was at this point to stop speculation
I watched them checking the terrain the morning on television and thought it would be inadvisable to attempt such a walk which did look treacherous, especially if you weren’t knowledgable about the area. Very sad for his parents.
His friend should have checked his condition and called the authorities asap. Or suggest him to go back to charge. There must be some argument or foul play that he was kicked out of BnB if his friend informed authorities or his family or send him Uber he would be alive today. Families you must educate your children for safety and people around them
@duvyaosman8065 you know he’s been convicted of putting an axe into a kids head and he is a convicted drug dealer no joke. He’s no goody two shoes the pictures make you believe
I do hope they find peace it’s so sad to see the poor lad at the festival the friends need let the family know what happened losing a child is bad enough but to lose him the way they did is heartbreaking 💔 😢
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Why the "demands"? Her son was found, and finding Jay even 10 days earlier would have the same results. Jay was aleady dead, and most likely died on the very 1st day he fell. Give thanks that he was found. Many go missing and never found. Take your son home, and give him a humble burial.
Soo sad that someone has been found dead and if it is him he was soo young I really feel for his family regardless of how it happened.. we should respect him and his family ❤❤
Ive got questions. Why would he decide to take an 11 hours walk instead of waiting a few hours for a bus? Why would he walk up the mountain instead of down the mountain? Why would he go off road instead of sticking to the main road. Why would he have less than 5% battery if he just left an air b&b. A lot of things are not adding up IMO....
People still in these comments who've been making themselves look ridiculous for weeks pushing ludicrous conspiracy theories who still can't have a day off with their nonsense. 😂😂🤡
This is so very similar to the missing 411 stories…..the area is searched so thoroughly and nothing is found only for the body to be found right beside an area that was already searched. Very strange indeed.
Shouldn’t of called off the search especially when he was found so close to last known location it’s a disgrace what if it was there son would they of called it of then
Do keep up with progress and read quality newspapers. They announced the search was to be called off to clear the area of detritus individuals hampering progress and no doubt did carry out a withdrawal procedure but in reality the authorities had men, machines and other equipment in situ and continued the search for Jay Slater and without hindrance a body was located and recovered using a helicopter.😊
From what I've seen on the news, the terrain is very difficult to search with rocks and crevasses and lots of greenery. Also in spite of the local police saying a while back they were stopping the search, they have actually carried on, no doubt to keep the media off their backs. Sorry, but the lad made some very poor decisions and paid with his life.
The question is how did they find his body the spanish terrain in the mountains is unbearably hot no one in there right mind would walk through there there lucky they found his body
Lucy still a lie, said jay sent her a screenshot of his location, but whoever took the screenshot was in los Cristianos. Said she called to air b&b tracked down by image of door, but ayub says he was woke up by phone call from jays mate saying jay was in a ditch and bit by cactus. She is lieing about her involvement.
so who tipped off the local coastguard on the saturday that all workers were aware of about where he was, and why wait until monday to announce the find….
How come his clothes were found near hos body? Only clothes he had was the ones he was wearing, so how come they wernt on him? This is weird, the whole thing is weird. R.I.P. jay
A body that's outside, decomposing, will not be in a great state after 4 weeks. And if he fell into thick vegetation then the body would not have been easily visible. The area he was found in was also described as 'very inaccessible'.
Yards from where he last pinged wow. However it took 4 wks? I find it impossible to to believe what someone is saying when they are crying and produce no tears
I really wished jay’s mum didn’t allow him to travel alone with friends to Tenerife😞😕🤧.Tears drop from my eyes ,I can’t believe it’s jay’s dead body that was found.
Sounds to me the Guardia Civil are very much meaning Mark Williams Thomas when they referred to 'amateur sleuths'. So it does seem to be fact Mark Williams Thomas hindered the investigation, which was predicted by many.
He's a ex detective not really amateur. I think they mean the thousands of puddings making crap up and the tik tok puddings going over stomping all over the place
This is why the search never stopped, it was said it was stopped to stop the ignorant do gooders going there, they totally hindered the entire search. When people ask why it took so long they are the reason
Sorry but the tax payer have spent a lot of money in this case and people complaint about it? That’s a difficult area to search for a body, the heat is unbearable, etc how about a little thanks to the people involved instead criticizing them? And he was a thug by the way I’m waiting for the autopsy report if it was foul play or what
The area was literally where he was last seen and it took them over a month to find him. You'd think that the last known location would be the very first place you check not one of the last.
@@Jack-kx5rfOcupate de tu país tenéis maletas con dos cuerpos descuartizados . El comentario anterior tiene toda la razón , juegate la vida tú buscándole en vez de sentar la panza en un sofá .
This is so sad I feel for the family but we have to wait to find out the truth can’t expect the BBC or mainstream media to tell us anything the truth will come out but not from them, the family have my heart felt condolences 💐
@@MattyEngland from the reports it wasn’t climbing down to it. It was going up. And you would be surprised what a dog can do,And they was using drones during the daylight same as the helicopter the wind from that helicopter would move over grown bushes and going by videos that our online where he was located was where his phone was supposedly found. Now in new reports jays body was found with cloths beside him and his phone.the first search team didn’t find him yet a new team go back up and found him in said condition.
The Spanish authorities knew all along where the body was. They didn't want to let us know until after the final as they were worried that announcing it would have caused a lot of "Do it for Jay" vibes for the England team.
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If I lost a loved one the same way and it was the same scenario. I would start off by thanking everyone and Spain for taking their time to search. Ultimately most people are not even fit enough to carry out a search like this! Its an unfortunate finding but at least show some appreciation for those people who have helped.
it's The Sun mate, probably annoyed Spain gave us a Football lesson.
@@mrhuss4939 yes
@@mrhuss4939 true
@@mrhuss4939 good effort & money energy plus hard work
What I want to know is why did Jay attempt an 11 hour walk back to where his friends were?
Who in their right mind would do that? And what kind of friends would let him?
Someone in fear for their life
He had a lift from his drug mates but he tried to rip them off
I've tried to do a ridiculous walk like that while drunk. So imagine being drunk and coming down from mdma. They aren't called psychoactive drugs for nothing you simpleton
Almost like he was drunk
@@IanSteer-l8rPlease stop being a sweetie wife. His family and friends have heard enough gossip from amateur sleuths. He had an accident.
This reaction is quite ridiculous. Look at the terrain , they had to get a helicopter to bring him out. It was rough ground and not flat. It was lucky he was seen, located or even found at all. There exactly is the answer and why go in an unfamiliar place without the communication capabilities, alone and miles from where he was going. He was an adult after all things considered. Local authorities are not responsible for tourists who wander off.
Why have they only just discovered the body? Those who ask this have not seen the mountains of Tenerife. The mountains are very steep, riddled with water run offs and covered in thick tangled vegetation. There are crevices everywhere and the ground is not always stable. And it can be very hot or very cold depending upon the cloud cover. It is possible to walk up a path and not even realise there is a steep drop. Once you fall you vanish into the undergrowth. The mountain rescue found the remains only because they really understand the terrain.
becasue he was down a deep ravine , probably hidden from view by undergrowth and rocks , use your brain
@@StellaKnightsThat's literally what the OP said in his comment, if you actually bothered to read it. He wasn't asking the question because he didn't know, he was asking it to answer it. Read his answer again.
Except Rescue Teams Dogs and Tech Covered this Area at Least 3 Times Yet just Feet away A Body was Found I don't buy that This Case is Weird Fishy not Right Starting with this Young Man's strange Weird uncaring Family Pals they Came out for Weeks and Did What ? And his Dad waited for 2 Weeks then came out and Slagged off the Clone Police Yet after a Few Hours he went off as well Hope no more money was given to this Family
@@StellaKnightsyour comment was filled with irony, thanks 😂😂
@@Elfrida-ls2mothink your cat was walking on your shift key mate
She sounds like a robot reading from the tele prompter 😂 these mainstream media companies have no clue how to report on things
Yeah I saw the same, how tf is she a senior when she seems like a working student was pulled over and its their first attempt.
Is the Sun so bad they cannot attract any talent?
I was just about to say that
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@@jonsmith5058 ex page 3 girl??
She’s the Tenerife respondent, clearly had too many drinks (and other substances) the night before
Interested to know if the watch he stole was still with him.
Course he didn't steal a watch
Simple, it was placed there after the area had been searched.
Ridiculous theory
@@joforrest1 How is it ridiculous?
It's not ridiculous. His last photo shows the coverlet from his room in Los Christianos. How did it get to Masca at 7.30am.
@@joforrest1Not at all. It’s happened many times in other cases.
The terrain is brutal, that's why.
Yet jay managed to get to where he was found ok .
@@melgrant7404Con material de escalada , y no te digo lo que eres porque me borran . Ocúpate de tu país .
I live on the Canary islands and often walk the trails in the volcanic mountains. It is very dangerous to go off the paths and take short cuts. The ground is loose the rocks are razor sharp as well as the cactus. No local would attempt any type of short cut. There are many narrow revines that you could easily slip down and unless the rescuers have mountain equipment ropes ect to scale down these gorges it's nearly impossible to find anything or anybody without specialist equipment. It is not a walk in the park.
That's not the point: they had helicopters etc but couldn't find a body yards from last known location. That's the story, not that razor sharp rocks are dangerous, we already know that.
They had loads of drones flying around, I'm really surprised it took nearly a month to find the body
@@lha816 drones can not fly low into narrow revines and see through thick vegetation.
@@tipi5586 Too many youtubers, tik tok users and people sitting in front of a computer that have no idea what they are talking about, i suggest you go there and see for yourself its the proverbial needle in a haystack
@@tipi5586Have you ever been to Tenerife? The cactus growth and vegetation is thick. Very thick. A helicopter crew wouldn't see through it. You know nothing of the geography of the area.
Jeez - she there - go to the spot and see how difficult it is - i know it natural to want to blame someone but Spanish police spent a fortune, imported dogs - risked their own lives in deadly terrain to help find her son that maybe it wouldnt haopen if he wasnt on class A drugs all night - she should he thankful to the spanish police not chastize them
No the question is why didn't they check the area around his last know location first?!?
@@guyyates4038they did ffs. Firstly, phone pings give off a radius of an area to search, on an exact dot on where the phone is. Secondly the area he was found was inaccessible, they used machetes to cut through thick brush. This would be hard to do and take a long time. Use your brain.
@@riannaanoffif you used yours maybe it would have occurred to you that he has been missing for nearly a month and that the radius given off by the phone and the space from that radius he could realistically have walked should be their first point for a search and that area wouldn't take a month to search even if they had to hack through bushes and plants so the question remains why didn't they search there first?!?
@@guyyates4038 Muchas personas arriesgaron su vida buscando en un lugar dificil , se usaron helicopteros , brigadas de perros para encontrar a un delincuente que iba campo a traves por si lo buscaban los amigos a los que habia robado el rolex y tu te crees mas listo cuando lo que tu dices es lo primero que se hizo , siempre habla un tonto .
@@manuelsolo1339 @manuelsolo1339 OK we are dealing with Google translate here so some things can be lost in translation but do you have a link to show he was a criminal or that they did what you just said they did because if so fair enough but from here it just sounds like your making stuff up
I don’t believe that his mum actually said anything like that.Probably something like “thank you very much for the incredible effort you put into finding my silly boy “
That must be the worse, lost in a foreign country, dehydrated, alone, and no battery on your phone to ask for help, i hope all the young kids learn from this, going out boozing and putting themselves in these situations every weekend you're playing with fire. First of all become sensible when drinking you dont need to get paralytic to have fun, never abandon/leave your friends behind, always let someone know where you're going before hand.
Why are you saying this like all young people will attempt an 11 hour walk in a foreign country while drunk? RIP to Jay but it’s a poor decision most won’t take. People barely wanna walk an hour when sober as is.
Y si lo hace mal , que su madre por lo menos tenga un " GRACIAS " para las personas que arriesgaron su vida buscandolo en una zona muy , muy peligrosa y gracias a quien desplazó brigadas de perros especializados en buscar personas vivas y perros especializados en buscar personas muertas ademas de especialistas en parapente y 2 helicopteros ...... todo para buscar a un niño que estaba en la isla robando .
Why would someone walk 11 hours without water does that make sense.
He was obviously dumped there when it was safe to do so. The search gets called off then a day later they find his body.
Apparently the body is very deteriorated
Do you have any evidence to that claim, or is your next point that the world is also triangular?
Don’t do drugs kids
Don't do kids drugs
Drugs drugs drugs, drugs.
He was a 19yr old who just thought he could down and reach the beach area, it's quite dangerous as you cannot see where your stepping, and it's hard to find a body in there as it's full of high falls and lots of hidden spaces, she should be grateful they put themselves in danger to find her boy
Walk back to his accommodation, 11 hours away. What the hell was this boy up too
At normal walking pace that would be 40 miles ?
alcohol, drugs?
@@awalk5177 anything that takes the time that takes hours, in another country that isn’t yours is stupidity. 40miles is still a good few hours. And so what if it’s 40 miles. What was he doing even thinking he can walk that. I’m so over this story, literally right now in the uk their are 120 children missing not one of them on the news
@@Letstalk295exactly obviously this is sad but its down to his own stupidity. I knew there was others but 120 wow. So sad cant believe this one story got so much attention but we haven’t seen any of these other missing people on the news🤦🏻♂️
@@awalk5177 40 miles is the distance from masca to his accommodation. about 11 hours under ideal conditions. the terrain was not ideal and he was not in good condition, the walk would have taken considerably longer. if at all possible without water.
To be blunt ,anyone who has walked through the countryside ,even if they can’t see ,they will smell the decomposition ,and they were supposed to have sniffer dogs as well
I doubt it, that place is extremely dry and access is very difficult.
Here in the Pyrenees, missing persons are found within hours, given the perfect conditions they had in Tenerife, and that is with all the tree coverage we have here.
Dogs will listen and smell and, aided with the slightest breeze, indicate if there is a human presence at the bottom of the deepest chasm. Jay's festering remains would have been detected atop the chasm immediately. Guardia Civil are protecting someone very very high up.
@@duncansmith7562 What nonsense. Many people have gone missing for months in the Pyrenees...
Rescue Teams Dogs Tech Covered this Area at Least 3 Times Yet each Time they all just missed the Body by a Few feet I Don't Buy that This Case is Fishy Not Right including his Family Pals
@@duncansmith7562where's Ur proof of that ??
That walk home story is BS. He lost drugs he was selling out there and got punished for it.
@@garysmooth2189 shut it Gary
@@ililllillillilliil8327it’s Tenerife you helm - not Sinaloa
People are saying stuff on him and his family because of his working class background, stop it. Britain needs to stop being so discriminatory towards its own people even sheeesh. Have some sympathy for the poor family they just lost their young son, whatever youthful trouble he got into, he was still their son, he’s just a young silly lad. Honestly have some shame people. Condolences to the mother and family
@@giakolou2876 it’s not discriminatory, the text messages between him and another girl who was also selling drugs for money on his holiday got out. He lost a decent amount and ran away out of fear. Looks like they caught up to him in the end. Poor family. Yes. Silly boy. Yes. But discrimination is the opposite of what this is
@@ililllillillilliil8327you shut it. You sound extremely dense and highly UNEDUCATED.
More than meets the eye, surely?
May he rest in peace.
May his family find some sort of peace. God bless
I feel so sorry for his mum dad and family. I had a brother die alone and my mum found him dead. It's the worst heart ache for a mother. I hope she stays strong and may time heal her pain.
People who think this is a simple 'went missing and had an accident' are very naïve indeed!
11 hour walk???? He wanted to do that in the heat, and with minimal water??
He should have made sure his phone was fully charged, and after going off 20 miles away with people he didnt know (drug buying probably), he shouldnt have decided to walk back, across the mountains. His own fault. His mum should stop trying to blame others. She will milk this now, she'll be on all tv news, with tears of course.
I dont know why you keep saying close to his final phone ping , it really wasnt that close and given the terrain it isnt surprising its taken this long to find him
Exactly. I've heard it was a good 20 minutes away from that last phone ping. That's a very long distance when were talking about that very difficult terrain
His body was moved to that location. No way it wasn’t found earlier if it was there the whole time.
And someone would have seen people moving another human cmon man 🤦♂️
@@liammurphy2022so naive.
No the area is full of huge ravines with lots of vegetation in, that are very dangerous to search.
@@liammurphy2022 not while watching the Euros Final on Sunday night!
who do you think was checking to see if a body bag was being winched down a gorge while Spain and England were tied at 1-1?
@@duncansmith7562 I dunno maybe all the searches volunteers and police that were on shift just a thought 🥴
Couldn't find him just yards from last known location. Oh dear.
RIP Jay
well thats becasue he wasnt yards from his last location , he was quite a distance away down a steep ravine
@@StellaKnightsthese people are brain dead and have no idea how phone pings and tough terrain works
@@StellaKnightsmany people are also saying he was stuck to a cactus so could’ve blended in…
Obviously his so called friends didn’t care to have him wonder off like that in the middle of nowhere
I'm so so sorry 💔💯 rip to this baby. This is so sad...
His parents must be heartbroken. After nearly a month of hell, with all the c**p on social media. RIP Jay. Sincere condolences to Jay's family 💔
To answer the question why now, generally once the searchers have moved away and the area has quieted down, you leave individuals to observe and the birds will show where the body is as they come in to scavenge.
50 quid says his family will try to sue the authorities.
No they are grieving
@@laurasavage8661They're after money
All the Facebook mums will be coming up with their own theories
Ooh stereo typing.
@@melgrant7404
It's tragically quite true.
As the years go by and second hand experience..
There's just something about being British, being a middle aged woman and being a conspiracy theorist.
@@ManOfLegs so many men also .
I think He’s left in the morning more than likely on a huge come down from the drugs/drink, wanted to get home, the bus wasn’t for 2 hours and he’s thought he will walk instead of waiting - he most probably thought of taking a short cut off the path and ultimately walked into immediate danger, he was dehydrated and I bet it was really hot weather and he has either fallen down and been injured and not been able to get back up or he’s passed out. Either way, he’s a young lad that’s probably made a silly decision and it’s cost him his life but my heart goes out to him and his family. This must be torture for them. I hope he rests in peace, and the family now get some peace also
He was murdered...and thrown there...He was set up.
you should be a detective
@@BigBadSev yes...I should...but in the meantime...I can assist authorities...if they need my help.
@@angelahatzimihalis7103 🤡🤡
With all the information about the people involved, I'm surprised there's been no arrests made.
Demands answers ?
Humans today
Your lucky you get help when a loved one goes missing
Your lucky you get free health care
Your lucky you live in a country you can get free housing
We sometimes overlook life and how lucky we are and the times we live
Be grateful you had help and people giving up there time
In life S**t happens unfortunately
But to then blame the help 👎🏽
This is what happens when you are venturing yourself dehydrated, without having the physical capability, adequate equipment nor the knowledge about the surroundings, especially after a sleepless night filled with booze. The nature is ruthless and everyone should learn from this poor guy’s mistake. I feel very sorry for him and mostly for his family as they will have to live with it. May the Lord rest him in peace!😢
Well if you are unfamiliar with the territory then I guess you would not understand? A helicopter struggled to retreive him so hikers and even skilled climbers would have found it almost impossible. There are lots of "scenarios" I guess but perhaps the Coroner will settle peoples minds a little? This must be awful for Jays family but at least they can find a closure .
No matter what the coroner says or even if there is irrefutable proof that he just fell by himself, conspiracists will still cry "it doesn't add up!!!"
The blanket he's wearing in the 7.30 photo doesn't add up. It's from his room in Los Christianos and seen in earlier photos. So if he never went back to his room, How did it get to Masca.
I think he overdosed night before.
The answer’s possibly more straightforward than you could ever imagine, and comes down to nothing more than timing , in circumstances like this where a story is hyped and sensationalised, only to have the solution realised at a later date and time only minutes from the last sighting, contact, whatever, it’s been used as a distraction to draw attention from another issue .
Yes. An overdose in Los Christianos. Hence why his villa bedding is in last photo in Masca.
Probably because the body was in a very inaccessible place it was hard to spot
Does she come with subtitles?
Crazy How Hagrid Never Found Him
So so baffled. WHO leaves their friend in a foreign country high as girrafe balls to walk back 11 hours.
Either someone's not telling the truth or something is amiss.
Even on drugs you are still somewhat self aware. The fact he went up into the mountains suggets fight or flight 🤷♂️.
Yeah ive been on all sorts myself and still been aware to know who and where i am so dont say youre not aware. Lad didnt think he was at home now did he? Clearly knew what he was doing to some degree.
tbf, the greek cameraman that spotted Dr Michael Mosleys body in Symi also noted that he & his crew had observed the search & rescue teams there, pass directly over the spot where _he_ was eventually located - several times & yet they never once seen him either. It must just be that certain types of terrain can obscure even someone laying in plain sight.
Don't trust the people he went with. Lucy couldn't even look at the camera when talking about him being missing and wanting him back.. Alot of holes in this.. How the hell did they not see him the first day they looked there.. It could have saved this poor lad and his family from heart ache.
Oh look, another armchair detective.
He wasn’t in view or in an area that was easy to access, look at the video that’s been released of the area he was found. It was in a deep revine no one is getting down there without the right equipment or knowledge of that sort of area. The poor lads fell and couldn’t get back up they’ve said it would be impossible to get back up. The body had to be airlifted out
@@MCorrigan lol no just an opinion actually.. Like yours 😂
@@joefergie7204 get a job!
@@MCorriganoh look an adult man acting like a child and thinking he did something 😂 pathetic
They keep saying he was so close to the last known location but then others saying he had walked far into the ravine. I think they should just say where he was at this point to stop speculation
I watched them checking the terrain the morning on television and thought it would be inadvisable to attempt such a walk which did look treacherous, especially if you weren’t knowledgable about the area. Very sad for his parents.
His friend should have checked his condition and called the authorities asap. Or suggest him to go back to charge. There must be some argument or foul play that he was kicked out of BnB if his friend informed authorities or his family or send him Uber he would be alive today. Families you must educate your children for safety and people around them
It hurts but ....he shouldn't have attempted such a walk in an unknown country and territory. The searchers are not the ones to blame.
I’m so sorry to his family absolutely gutted for them always in my prayers
It's so sad I am sending my condolence and prayers to Jay's Mum and family.
@duvyaosman8065 you know he’s been convicted of putting an axe into a kids head and he is a convicted drug dealer no joke. He’s no goody two shoes the pictures make you believe
You should get someone who knows how to read a teleprompter next time.
I do hope they find peace it’s so sad to see the poor lad at the festival the friends need let the family know what happened losing a child is bad enough but to lose him the way they did is heartbreaking 💔 😢
I demand to know why we haven't seen receipts for the expenses that the go fund me was spent on
Let's see your bank statement.
Why does that matter to you?
@@entx8491because she begged people online for money that wasn't needed and then lied about how it was been spent
Give over about GFM, if you haven't donated it's none of your business, if you have donated, it's still none of your business and just stop donating if you think you have a right to know 👍 (You shouldn't expect anything in return for your contribution)
@@Ray-555 😂😂👌
Was he placed there?
Why the "demands"? Her son was found, and finding Jay even 10 days earlier would have the same results. Jay was aleady dead, and most likely died on the very 1st day he fell. Give thanks that he was found. Many go missing and never found. Take your son home, and give him a humble burial.
Unless it was placed there after Jay was murdered
Soo sad that someone has been found dead and if it is him he was soo young I really feel for his family regardless of how it happened.. we should respect him and his family ❤❤
No
Why is it always someone else's fault?
Ive got questions. Why would he decide to take an 11 hours walk instead of waiting a few hours for a bus? Why would he walk up the mountain instead of down the mountain? Why would he go off road instead of sticking to the main road. Why would he have less than 5% battery if he just left an air b&b. A lot of things are not adding up IMO....
Wasn’t Michael Murray found 100 yards from wheee they’d already searched .
There search teams man
People still in these comments who've been making themselves look ridiculous for weeks pushing ludicrous conspiracy theories who still can't have a day off with their nonsense. 😂😂🤡
This is so very similar to the missing 411 stories…..the area is searched so thoroughly and nothing is found only for the body to be found right beside an area that was already searched. Very strange indeed.
We live in such a trashy country now
Shouldn’t of called off the search especially when he was found so close to last known location it’s a disgrace what if it was there son would they of called it of then
Do keep up with progress and read quality newspapers. They announced the search was to be called off to clear the area of detritus individuals hampering progress and no doubt did carry out a withdrawal procedure but in reality the authorities had men, machines and other equipment in situ and continued the search for Jay Slater and without hindrance a body was located and recovered using a helicopter.😊
Anyone know about the PPE scandal and the TV Detective
Feel so sorry for this family i wish i cud just give them all a hug😢
Don't walk alone'at night.after dark'Do not travel far away'alone
Does it make a big difference if they would have found him week or so earlier?
I send my condolences and prayers To jays mum and family. Ahh he is was and always will be her baby 💔
💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
From what I've seen on the news, the terrain is very difficult to search with rocks and crevasses and lots of greenery. Also in spite of the local police saying a while back they were stopping the search, they have actually carried on, no doubt to keep the media off their backs. Sorry, but the lad made some very poor decisions and paid with his life.
His poor mum this is so heartbreaking
The question is how did they find his body the spanish terrain in the mountains is unbearably hot no one in there right mind would walk through there there lucky they found his body
He was drugged up that s why he took that route !
I would ask how did they find him because this was a really difficult search.
As i said before I would have beside myself.Thinking of you from one mother to another 😢
These are such sad news. Thoughts with the family❤
Lucy still a lie, said jay sent her a screenshot of his location, but whoever took the screenshot was in los Cristianos. Said she called to air b&b tracked down by image of door, but ayub says he was woke up by phone call from jays mate saying jay was in a ditch and bit by cactus. She is lieing about her involvement.
so who tipped off the local coastguard on the saturday that all workers were aware of about where he was, and why wait until monday to announce the find….
How come his clothes were found near hos body? Only clothes he had was the ones he was wearing, so how come they wernt on him? This is weird, the whole thing is weird.
R.I.P. jay
A body that's outside, decomposing, will not be in a great state after 4 weeks. And if he fell into thick vegetation then the body would not have been easily visible. The area he was found in was also described as 'very inaccessible'.
@@choogle100 thanks for stating that.
@@choogle100not really relevant to the clothes question.
Yards from where he last pinged wow. However it took 4 wks?
I find it impossible to to believe what someone is saying when they are crying and produce no tears
my condolences to his family😢
I really wished jay’s mum didn’t allow him to travel alone with friends to Tenerife😞😕🤧.Tears drop from my eyes ,I can’t believe it’s jay’s dead body that was found.
Jay's mum might not have wanted him to go but parents can't stop young adults making there own choices at the age of 19 unfortunately .
Sounds to me the Guardia Civil are very much meaning Mark Williams Thomas when they referred to 'amateur sleuths'. So it does seem to be fact Mark Williams Thomas hindered the investigation, which was predicted by many.
He's a ex detective not really amateur. I think they mean the thousands of puddings making crap up and the tik tok puddings going over stomping all over the place
This is why the search never stopped, it was said it was stopped to stop the ignorant do gooders going there, they totally hindered the entire search. When people ask why it took so long they are the reason
Yeea and what was this vital information only a few days ago?
Sorry but the tax payer have spent a lot of money in this case and people complaint about it? That’s a difficult area to search for a body, the heat is unbearable, etc how about a little thanks to the people involved instead criticizing them? And he was a thug by the way I’m waiting for the autopsy report if it was foul play or what
The area was literally where he was last seen and it took them over a month to find him. You'd think that the last known location would be the very first place you check not one of the last.
@@Jack-kx5rfOcupate de tu país tenéis maletas con dos cuerpos descuartizados . El comentario anterior tiene toda la razón , juegate la vida tú buscándole en vez de sentar la panza en un sofá .
Its all stinks to me this somethungd definitely not right with tgis story
A bit like your spelling really
This is so sad I feel for the family but we have to wait to find out the truth can’t expect the BBC or mainstream media to tell us anything the truth will come out but not from them, the family have my heart felt condolences 💐
RIP🙏🙏
Because someone dumped him there after the search was stopped because funny how the dogs and drones couldn’t find him it’s bs he was killed
Dogs can't climb down ravines. Drones can't see cold bodies obscured by undergrowth
@@MattyEngland from the reports it wasn’t climbing down to it. It was going up. And you would be surprised what a dog can do,And they was using drones during the daylight same as the helicopter the wind from that helicopter would move over grown bushes and going by videos that our online where he was located was where his phone was supposedly found. Now in new reports jays body was found with cloths beside him and his phone.the first search team didn’t find him yet a new team go back up and found him in said condition.
Hearing this is giving me a migraine
Yeah, the question... is this done on purpose... his body found not far from the place where his phone was last recodred...
The Spanish authorities knew all along where the body was. They didn't want to let us know until after the final as they were worried that announcing it would have caused a lot of "Do it for Jay" vibes for the England team.
He o.d'd his friends panicked and hid his body
The sun and their Essex reporters 🤦🏻
The world of drug dealing is dangerous ,deadly even
And is anything still thinking it’s murder?
When they said he was In need of water he Probably Fainted and fell of
Come here and you will find out why
The young lads body has been stored & then put at that SPOT that full atea was SEARCHED THOROUGHLY !
Do you have any idea how rugged and inaccessible that terrain is?