Hungary's Pacer! MÁV-START Bzmot railbus!
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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2022
- Up today, we take a look at a Hungarian MÁV-START Bzmot railbus.
Date of Travel: October 2021
Class of Travel: 2nd Class
Rolling Stock: Bzmot
Type of Service: Personnel
Operator: MÁV-START
Train Number: 35514
Origin: Eger, Hungary
Destination: Szilvásvárad, Hungary
Cost of Ticket: 440Ft (£1.05, $1.40, €1.25)
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I think the conductor just beleived that you want to visit the famous Szalajkavolgy which is the main tourist attraction in Szilvasvarad and the Szalajkavolgy stop is close there, this is where tourists get off the train. So she might wanted to help you :)
Exactly what I think! Except the villagers of Szilvásvárad, I don't think that other people have reason to go there except for the Szalajkavölgy tourist area. So the conductor dosn't want him to get lost.
Well, welcome to Hungary ;)
The conductor believed that, you're going to Szilvásvárad, and the valley of the Szalajka creek, which has another narrow gauge railway uphills to another walking tour locations, restaurants and so on. Sadly, there is a reduced timetable, that only covers a shallow coverage of touristic destinations. Where these railcars run, you have to plan your journey, in an extreme case you only have one train per directions daily!
To the Bzmot, or the 117 series: it has an one-axle bogie(!) to take steep curves like this line without considering damage of the track, some of the motorized ones have air conditioning. These vehicles have the very less axle load for rural routes, about 10 tons per axle. The one of you rode was the one I had too, the No 321 was located at the nearby depot which has been serving the lines around my hometown. ;)
And, if you like to take better view of the tracks, I recommend to take a seat of an unmotorized carriages of these little bouncers, especially on the Line 11, the one which connects Győr and Veszprém, with tunnels and viaducts through the Bakony hills , a monastery on a hill of Pannonhalma, and, if you have lucky moments, this line is running across a shooting range for armored vehicles and air support, sometimes you can see military things really close beside of this little thing ;)
The rolling stock like this allowed for keeping many rural lines in Czechia, Slovakia and Hungary after 1989, while in many other countries that used to be worse side of the Iron Curtain (e.g. Poland), where such railbuses were not available, many rural lines were closed down.
Same story with the pacers here in the U.K.
Exactly, i like this about Czech Republic - that you can go pretty much anywhere using a train, even really small villages are connected and there is many connections available per day.
4:02 if you look at "Bz's" in their home countries, the Czech Republic or Slovakia, and even MÁV's baggage compartment trailers (BDzx), it was originally intended to have five seats in a row, 3+2. 2+2 is MÁV's bigger comfort :-D
4:40 "Ventilation is provided in the form of opening the window." 😉
This is my favourite Dylan video so far. Much more interesting IMO when he goes off the beaten track rather than using HSTs etc. BTW, if I ever see someone on a train who looks like Dylan, I'll check whether one hand is cleaner than the other based on his toilet reviews!. (yes I do appreciate he has to hold the camera with the other hand).
I have to agree---This is my favorite video so far. Love your channel.
I agree!
You can find similar trains in rural Czech Republic as well, nicknamed RegioMouse. Would recommend looking around Uherske Hradiste, which is a good jump off point for exploring glorious spa town Luhacovice.
It's not similar. It's exactly the same just refurbished. Motor Coach Series 810.
That looked like no other train you've travelled on. When you first got on the big bench seats with their brown upholstery and curtained windows looked very 19th century (in a good way).
Looks more like the old EMU/DMU units that were still going strong until the 1990s or later on British Rail rather than the Pacers. Similar weather to back home, too. : )
Definitely a fun ride, even if underused by the locals.
Wow, Eger is my hometown, so thumbs up for visiting it! :) In clear weather, the panorama is quite spectacular, so the line has a lot of touristic potential. Unfortunately, parallel (and faster) bus services, old Bzmot rolling stock and the low number of connections make it pretty uncompetitive. It's definitely an experience for rail enthusiasts though!
I know I think they operate on all over Hungary on local services .
I think Eger is a nice very a bit far from the Slovak Border even though it is close to the Great Plain Alfold.
This took me by surprise, I hope you enjoyed your stay here!
On another note: the countrywide intercity bus operator Volánbusz recently joined forces with MÁV, and now if you're train is cancelled, you're likely to be continuing your route in an intercity bus.
If you want to see a refurbished version of the Bzmot or 117 class, search after the Interpici. Interpicis are Bzmots converted to play the role of the distributor and amassing of Intercity trains.. As i know we stopped use them like that but they are used as normal bzs. They have modern intercity seats and some Bzx trailer cars converted to Interpici control cars.
I really have to chuckle watching a lot of your video's Dylan, these so called Railbus's were top of the line trains thru out most of Europe back in the 1960's. I was stationed in Giessen Germany. and took many sight seeing tours to as many countries as i could and most of the engines back then were still steam. and the main cars were a lot like these ones. but the coverings n the seats were leather. and less padding. Can you imagine taking a trip from Giessen to Paris on one of these! yep ! took all most 7-9.5 hrs. long hard trip in those days. I marvel at train travel today. and that's one reason why I enjoy your video's so much, Too old to travel like that nowdays. so I do it vicariously thru you ! thanks for that Dylan. and for sharing. ECF
Great video. I have riden the Czech version in the Czech Republic. Great little trains that are helping to keep branch lines open
Well, for the cost, and considering how I like that kind of scenery plus being a winter/rainy day lover, sounds like something I would do about twice a week on free time just for fun. Love this kinda videos and also share the joy of making them 💙
Rail fares are frozen at a 2007-2008 level.
Hooray for the railbus - providing service on less used routes. Thanks for filming it.,
Fun little video. Thanks!
Delightfully rustic! Reminded me of my day out to the Epping-Ongar railway in October 2018. Rode the heritage DMU from Ongar all the way to Coopersale halt in similar weather to your Hungarian trip.
Main lines travel is all well and good, but these smaller lines using older rolling stock usualy make far more interesting viewing and I love them. Thank you so much for this particular trip.
As it was mentioned in the video, these railbuses helped to preserve regular trafic on many local lines with low numbers of pasengers. Nice video.
same here in Slovakia and mainly the Czech Republic, the so-called Šukafon - Class 809/810/811/812 railcars is a savior of many, may branch lines.
Perfect rainy weather for such a trip.
Looks cosy 😊
Nice video . Thanks
Did not know that there were Pacers in Hungary. Geoff and Vicki (All The Stations) might be thrilled with that. Great video as always ☺️
Railbusses were actually more widely spread than most of the people believe. They appeared quite long before the Pacer, the most famous of all being the German "Schienenbus". It was developed somewhere in the early 1960s (or maybe late 1950s?) and quickly spread to numerous other countries (Spain, Yugoslavia, Romania among others, they were also locally built), and even in Germany the last ones were taken out of service quite recently (some of those even ended up in Cuba). And they were incredibly fast (90 km/h). It seems that the Hungarian ones share their technique with Czechs (a refeurbished version is in use in Czechia, see the recent Pete Brandy video).
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@@maxart3392 The Australians were using them by the early 50s at the latest. Queensland Rail still have two 1800 class units from 1952-1953 in use on the Gulflander service. They were locally built by Comeng, and are basically just trucks with bus bodies and rail wheels - they even have manual gearboxes, complete with clutch and stick shifter. Back in the day QR used to a have a lot of bush branch lines providing a lifeline service to very sparsely populated areas, so it was all that was needed, and in the event of a breakdown, any local farmhand mechanic could have a pretty good bash and getting it up and running.
@@maxart3392 Is that the DB Class VT. 98? We never had any in Hungary as far as I'm aware.. the Bzmot is basically a Hungarian modification of the former Czechoslovak State Railways (ČSD) Class 810 diesel railcar, the descendants of which are now used in Czechia.
Interesting comments. Thanks 😊
We have these in Czechia too (as class 810's of course)
Amazing video Dylan!
Wonderful video as ever Dylan, I love these more obscure sort of things 😉
The Bzmot were fun, I took one from a wee junction station a little north of Keszthely on the east side of Lake Balaton) to Zalaergerszeg (try saying that when your drunk).
They do look better on the inside than out
Eger is a pretty spectacular little gem of a city, way better than Miskolc (although its city centre has been gentrified) where I used to live. The mountains between Lilafured and Szlivasvarad are quite nice though, famous for its Rainbow Trout and a little narrow gauge railway. I advise a trip to those hills in late-October, pretty spectacular colour changes in the foliage
Great trip report
Completely charming!
Brilliant ride Dylan...
Great video on the Hungarian bzmot (pacer) train yeah the interior is quite vintage and unfortunately it was raining so not much scenery. I guess these local train are useful for people in isolated rural communities where getting places is difficult. I also like that you talk in videos now
I love how retro and quirky these are! Maybe not the most comfortable ride but as you said, Dylan, quite an experience.
It's fascinating too how some of the stations were unmarked. In fact, though the station you disembarked was marked, it looked fairly well deserted in that last shot you took. Happy to see that you were indeed in the village you wanted to be in.
As always, thanks for sharing, Dylan. Thoroughly enjoyed it!
Actually Bzmots have boogies - an unuasual single axle boogie. So it is not fixed. I think similarly the Pacers also have boogies.
+Simple, inexpensive and looked like fun. Thanks' and will be seeing you Friday.
Charming. And beautiful countryside.
This was a good trip report, Dylan. I enjoyed it even though the sights were rain drenched.
Enjoyed the rail-bus and villages. Thought the seats were beautiful and scenery were nice.
Very nice, and very atmospheric vistas. Cool wagon interiors, a lot warmer than current cold but functional ones. Thanks!
That's fantastic! What an adventure! I don't need expensive, luxury overnight train videos to keep me happy, there is plenty to like about very old, cheap economical transport such as this!
I like the railbus and this railwayline is very beautiful! Only the rain not..... Nice video as always!
I've never seen such comfortable seats on a Pacer. On a train like this you expect them to come round with tea and clotted cream cakes.
thank you so much for these beautiful tours and many more beautiful videos Reindert uit Suriname 🇸🇷 ❤
Great trip - It is not always the destination that matters but how you get there.
Those are fantastic little units. I love the look! They kind of remind me of the Siemens-Duewag "U2" trams (the front end). It looks like they're in great shape here.
Thank you Dylan....a really enjoyable video...your art grows....and lovely to see the smile in the now obligatory wee wave in the mirror.
I love these classic trains. We have them in Presov, Slovakia. They go from Kysak to Presov and Presov to Bardejov.
Awesome 👍👍👍 bro
Nice journey these trains are very old & quite a classic as well.
Great video…..really enjoy these quirky trains. Did remind me of Le Petit Jayne in the French Pyrenees…..particularly about the lighting. When I went I was in the open top wagons which was great fun (if a slight surprise) when heading into tunnels in relative darkness
Absolut interessantes Video. Danke
The scenery alone was worth the fare. A fascinating old clunk. 😁
This was charming! The carriages are cute and do the job expected - low cost travel on a regional route, a bit like a rural bus route. Thank you for showing us this especially as it’s a part of the world most of us will not get to see.
Back in summer of 2017, I was on a 158 that had no lighting. Going through Blea Moor Tunnel was certainly an experience! I have to presume this is still less uncomfortable to the 139s.
Gods, that's a blast from the past! This video brought back to me one thing I'd totally forgotten about, the old style powder soap dispensers.... I remember them from the old Silberling in Germany, as well as the foot pedal to flush the toilet.... right out onto the track. Not even a U-bend - press the pedal and this little flap opened, and there were tracks rushing away right under your derrière, in all their cold, windy glory. Yep, childhood memories right there.
those are soap grinders. A block of soap is slowly ground to powder as you turn the wheel. Those were afaik only introduced after the end of socialism, before that they had actual powder dispensers...
Good job on the pronunciation man, you actually aced most of those town names!
yeah, he was good at it.
(very good)
Ah, Eger. Where Bulls Blood wine comes from.
Funny that's the seat moquette on these Bzmots is the same as what Metro Rail in Los Angeles used for many years for their seats, although ours is dark blue rather than orange. We've since changed ours seats to plastic ones with a yellow and grey polka dot pattern.
I miss spending my summer vacations in Hungary.
Damn, I should buy a house there as long as they are affordable.
it may not be the classiest ride you've ever taken, but for the price, it can't be beat. I actually liked the interior. Yes, I'm old. I can't imagine a train that only does a top speed of 50 MPH. Thanks for the low tech journey. I enjoyed it.
great video dylan mate i like the review on the hungary pacer it looks more comphy than the northern wheelybins
Honestly it's a dream to travel in this weather in this train dude♥️
I'm actually Hungarian, so im very excited to watch the video! :D
I watched the video, glad you enjoyed the ride. Well done for your pronunciation! :D
@@mancs123 Dylan has already travelled from Keleti station to Timisoara on CFR first class. You can find the video as well
nice one again dylan. brian d.
Man how that interior reminds me of SBB EW I/II!
Your picture clarity is amazing. I can't stand fuzzy videos and usually avoid them like the plague.
Your pronunciation of "Szilvásvárad" was very good, as a matter of fact. Szalajkavölgy - where the conductor suggested you to get off - has a scenic waterfall and a lovely mountain road, that's why most people actually want to get off there. There's also a narrow gauge train that takes you up to the mountains and then you can walk down - it's very nice indeed. In spring and summer there are lots of tourists there.
Really enjoyable video, one of your best ones. Something a bit different.
It does reminds me of the pacers that Northern used to have.
Brilliant stuff. Subscribe based on the 100k special so congratulations on that. 🎉😁. Also what camera do you use
@Dylant's travel report at 6:40 the yellow one is the soap mincer. If you twist bottom of that one, you have small bits of soap. 😅
I had a ball traveling around parts of Hungary on these.
The aux coaches for these BZmots are quite good as in the place of the cab they have a huge bench, which is super comfortable. They are also quieter as they don't have engines.
Boa viagem de treim Dylans show
Video's score: 10
You always bring us something god Dylan, but the was hilarious. Value for money? Who the hell is going to argue over £1.05 for an hours ride. I'll bet it could be very nice if it ever stops raining.
Wonder what delights you bring on my 70th birthday this Friday LOL.
Cheers, Bob
At least the seats were high-backed. When I first travelled on UK Pacers they were low backed - just as in a bus! How I hated the screech on the tight bend at Oldham Mumps station!!!
I believe it would be fun to ride that train 🚂
Nice train ride in Hungary .Like to see trip report out of Budapest to Prague .
Great trip. I'm curious, is there any competitors transport method on this route?
I was before yesterday on the top of mountain at Bélapátfalva .The view is maisy.
Everything seems Original here, Dylan ^_^
Until 2010 there was the so called Interpici (pici means small) train category using modernized Bzmot. They were airconditioned and if im not mistaken had even closed toilet system or however you call it. This train category ceased in 2010.
Despite the rain, the scenery is still pretty. As a Brit, I thought you would get used to rain by now😄
1:58 Your pronunciation was quite good, no worries :-) I understood.
In Japan there is also the KIHA 31 which is kinda like the pacer as well. You can drive it on the old Microsoft Train Sim.
Have you ever done the journey from Liege to Luxembourg city? I did it a few years ago and really enjoyed it. I wish I knew which train it was.
Looks luxurious compared to a Pacer!
How on earth do you find these obscure routes? Very interesting vid though!
In fact, when you next do a Q & A perhaps you could tell us about how you plan trips - and how your girlfriend puts up with you being away so much!!!!!
Well that was an interesting video. As for Hungary - this country produced railbuses and DMUs too. The USSR bought a lot of D1 multiple units kinda similar to those You mentioned in this video but with wooden seats. And those DMUs were scrapped only in 2010-2012. We also had ACh1 DMUs from Czechoslovakia which were a bit better but time wasn't kind to them too.
@@SuperalbsTravels You're right speaking of Ukraine.. But
in other ex-soviet. countries they're scrapped.
@@SuperalbsTravels not sure if any non-modernized D1 is acting.
If you like railbuses, you should look up the 'Kaoham Shuttle' through northern British Columbia - there appear to be some good videos of it on RUclips.
Well this is how i describe Pacers the British Bzmot ;) The feeling is the same ;) You shoud try out the czech and slovak versions as well there are some modernized ones over there.
Komolyan mondom, a legmenőbb dolog néha Magyarországon élni!
Considering the line only brings in about £50,000 in a good year it's quite a remarkable service.
Looked pretty green and drippy...what was there to see at the end of this journey?
I love rail buses especially pacers. Maybe you could ride another rail bus next maybe the class 141 or 139?
These trains in Czech Republic were rebuilt in small number, so they have AC and plug sockets.
She probably told you to get off there, because tourists usually visit Szalajka-völgy. It's a beautiful place, and it even has a narrow gauge forest train, quite common in Hungary
Try BzMot/class 810 in Poland on PKL Railway Pleszew Miasto- Pleszew Wąskotorowy.
Usually a bzmot(wiht a motor and A/C) and a bzx (like a bzmot, but without motor and A/C). I'm hungarian, but as far as I know, I haven't traveled on a bzmot yet.
Looks a lot more comfortable than the old MBTA Green line street cars.
In the late nineties a number of these trains were modernized to become "InterPici" (InterTiny, a pun on InterCity) trains, which were providing connections to IC lines and also serve some none-IC lines with more luxurious trains. So those had a modern, IC-style interior and a new coat of paint, but ofc remained the old Bzmot trains mechanically. Unfortunately the concept was retired in 2010, but those were rather unique little trains...
You can find articles in Hungarian and German wikipedia about the InterPici-trains, just look 'em up...