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@@threesomeink They are friends, you'd think they'd play fairly and be good loser but they were sore losers so they cheated. Cheating means they lose. Spiff wins.
@@threesomeink He made them to kill him by making the despair so much that they sabotaged themselves. Also huge loads of mental gymastics to justify this as a win for hunters.
Yeah their job was to keep them alive and if death by bear trap counts as killing a target then npcs or players killing the target should count as a failure to defend for the hunters.
The goal was to kill all 9 NPCs before they could kill him. All 9 NPCs were killed before they killed him. He won the moment they killed Nazeem for him.
No, if we're getting technical, it was a draw. The exact words of the challenge were- "There's nine NPCs you guys have to protect." Which they failed at. They didn't protect any of them, so they didn't win. "I just have to kill nine of them." Which he didn't do. He killed eight of them. And per his words, he had to kill all nine of them. So Spiff didn't win. "For me to lose, you have to kill me" Which I guess they did, but not before both of teams failed to accomplish their task. The game already came to a draw before this happened. Which I guess means that Spiff didn't lose, but he didn't win either.
@@thespiffingbrit no clue on how possible it is but maybe a person just dedicated to running a spectator cam, if they can swap between perspectives that would be great but if they can also freecam then they could get some other nice shots.
He definitely has to do it again, he could have done so many cool things instead of what he did... - mass paralysis to paralyze them all - there are runes that also paralyze and runes of fire/ice/lightning that he could use as traps - if he cast invisibility immediately after opening the door during its opening animation he could keep the invisibility effect - he could dress up as a guard and make them think he is an NPC - he could have used spells like Fire Storm which does more damage than Blizzard - he could use a staff or scrolls of Fireball to do AOE damage and obliterate them all - cast conjure a Frost Atronach or a Dremora Lord to fight for him - cast a Fury/Frenzy spell on the NPCs so they kill the hunters ... and so many more things these are just off the top of my head.
6:49 there actually is a real second entrance to solitude. If you go down the road north of solitude's entrance you can walk in a door under a big rock and it makes you enter solitude through the door at that arch next to the market.
@@shadowhawkrine1947 Only to not lose the fun they had the rest of the game, I know I wouldn't have been such a good sport about it when I'm playing against a bunch of children with no idea of how rules work.
@@qinjiwei5058 Yeah, no. You can’t pretend to know what’s going through his head. He admitted that they found the loophole in his wording. It wasn’t just to “not lose the fun”, that’s a crappy excuse that you have no way of verifying.
This honestly makes so many game mechanics in skyrim more useful than the main game. I rarely ever used staffs or scrolls because it typically just made more sense to get the actual spell, and sneaking around the long way was always pointless because stealth above like 60 is essentially being invisible to NPCs
You could create a code where you can set a custom list of "target NPCs" and when they die, an all chat announcement of their death goes on a timer. This timer could also have custom options like 30 seconds or 45 seconds or 1-minute etc.
Spiff, is not a code boy, and that'd be a quite decent amount of work for a non mainstream mod that'll have very little reward - unless its a commission from spiff, it's a cool idea, but just not worth
i'm a bit perplexed at this, i imagine it's just for content but surely Spiff won as soon as Nazeem died. Their plan would've worked if they'd killed an NPC before the last one died
Their job was to protect. The moment they killed NPC was basically them surrendering the challenge, but they tried to do mental gymastics to count it as a win.
@@Zennethe you have to consider the objective though. The objective wasn't have these npcs killed. The objective was for spiff to kill all the npcs. So by killing nazeem they stopped spiff from killing all the npcs. So they did indeed win.
@@brot3372 poorly established rules so yes. This channel is about abusing exploits for funny outcomes. What happened here was his friends exploited a poorly defined rule to create a funny outcome. I will ask this though. Did spiff seem annoyed or upset by this outcome? Sounded to me like he found it funny so why does anyone care. The exploiter got out exploited, that's all.
I would absolutely love to see more of this, maybe put some weird limitations on the hunters, such as one damage type per hunter, limit them between a few skills, maybe have yourself start with 1000 gold or similar? It would be really interesting to see you try it with different starts and different races, of course that would make the hunters more experienced about it all as well
Healer: (Restoration, One-Handed, Light Armor) Tank: (Heavy Armor, Block, One-Handed) Battle Mage: (Destruction, One-Handed, Light Armor) Warrior: (Heavy Armor, Two-Handed/One-Handed if bows are too laggy, Archery/Block if bows are too laggy) I feel like this would be one hella team if Spiff & Co. did this again.
Spiff as the hunter vs 4 assassins might be fun too but the challenge might need tweaking, like only 1 target active at a time or assassins have individual and personal targets and can't help each other, etc.
I'd love to see something like this again, but you remain in a call with the hunters. As delightful as this was, half of the charm of manhunts is the banter.
@@Dragongaga sure he can. He just has to mute. It actually puts more pressure on the hunters though because he'll be hearing all of their scheming except for things planned ahead of time and talked about in code.
The Spiffing Brit: "I'm gonna stick to my promise and kill Nazeem last." Valefisk and crew: "Lets cheat, secretly killing one of his targets and hide the body!"
Not really cheating; the terms of the challenge were very specific about other details, so the wording involving Spiff killing them himself left the loophole wide open Though given that he found the corpse before they got him, I'd argue that it's a draw
@@0bliVioid97 the first minute of the video spiff states that the other RUclipsrs have to protect the NPCs from him... they lost simply because the rule wasn't for spiff to kill all 9 NPCs, it was for them to protect all 9 NPCs from spiff
Technically speaking Spiff is the reason as to why Nazeem was killed. Much like when someone uses an Illusion spell to cause an NPC to kill another, Spiff should get credit due to setting up the scenario and causing them to worry enough to kill the NPC they needed to protect from him
Watching Spiff play Skyrim gives me the same amount of pleasure as taking the very first sip of a perfectly made cup of Yorkshire Gold! It cannot possibly be surpassed and will always make my day…
Am I the only one who would've probably just speedran the main quest until getting all 3 words of Unrelenting Force? That way you get levels, the hunters start having to deal with dragon attacks, AND you get the ability to yeet people away from you out of nowhere
Spiff I believe you should sometimes join in the hunters call to get a bit of taunting or whatever, it’s let’s us see more of an interaction between the hunters and the hunted!
Their reactions would've been pretty funny if Spiff expected them to kill one of the NPCs, and had one of the raise undead spells on hand to kill their zombie, thereby killing the NPC, and not losing by technicality.
Them killing nazeem so spiff couldnt win is one of the most petty thing ive seen in video game history that ruinded the challenge completely. Bad sportsmanship fr
This was such a fun video. I love your usual content but I would be more than happy to see more like this as well. I loved that Mango was able to predict a few of your moves. I want them to have another chance to thwart your genius
Lol nobody is going to mention how when Mango was explaining how Spiff just glitched out of reality, she ended up approaching the wrong spot when showing the others. I thought it was funny, anyway. :) ***Some Spoilers Ahead*** This was definitely entertaining. It was a bit...boring that they killed Nazeem, but otherwise it's a good video. They did state that Spiff would have to find the body since he couldn't kill the NPC himself, so I'd say that amending the existing criterium for his own assassinating of the NPC into that, and him completing it, makes a win for him. I think he won because he satisfied the new criteria the others set (even though changing the rules mid-game is a bit... non-sportsmen-like) and didn't die until everything was completed. I see tons of people arguing about who won and whatnot. I just wanted to share my point of view on why he won in my eyes. If the other three substituted the rule for him assassinating the NPC by himself with him having to find the body after they did the assassination (assumedly doing so before they killed him), then it should be just as if he'd satisfied the initial rule anyway. They're the ones that essentially changed the checklist on him and he STILL completed the new task. In addition, Spiff DID complete the list in its entirety, including the altered rule, before dying. The competition comes to an end at some point no matter what way you slice it, so them killing him at the end doesn't mean much as it's over at that point, anyway.
This video was fantastic, idk how i missed it for so long. That being said imo the challenge was over with a spiff victory the moment they killed nazeem, which tbh was also an incredibly anticlimactic ending. The spawning of more nazeems was great tho lol
This is amazing, I hope you do some more of this content with different strategies. Could do a mini series where you go through each race to try and win
Already watched the last video 4 times. Now I've watched this one 2 times and I will keep repeating these every now and then. This are just too much fun! Thank you Spiff and everyone involved!!
Loving this series! Definitely need more episodes! Haha A suggestion for the hunters, they cannot be the same class.. ie one archer, one handed, two handed etc! 🤙
I love how when in contact, they sound so panicked, and you sound so calm and posh. Like a proper Brit. But really the rule should had been if the NPC dies, you win. So it don't matter who killed them, because they are still dead.
id say the win conditions would be: All the npcs are dead before being killed by a player. lose condition: being killed by a player before all the npcs are dead. Their job was to protect the npcs, so them killing an npc, would just be helping spiff, kinda like how if u shoot a ball into your own goal, in any sport with goals, that would count as a goal for the other team.
Never thought adding at least 2 other players and a similar goal would be exactly what skyrim needs. Like who cares abt the graphics when you could be playing the entire game as a coop campaign
It is funny how this video was just a spiff of the dream stuff oh wait a second.. I meant to say that these are cool kinds of videos that put a lot of random knowledge to the forefront as normally this stuff would get overlooked or not noticed at all and it ended up putting him way ahead of everyone else. Would be cool to see this done on more Bethesda games spiff
I think in the future, to add tension, the speedrunner should not be allowed to fast travel, and should have to alert when the target dies immediately, so they always have to flee quickly.
yea some people are saying “it’s not in the rules” but if they have to take out the killer, they can’t do the killer’s job and say they were successful.
@@significantgumption victim: "Hello yes police i'm being hunted by a killer your supposed to protect me right" police: "well no were just supposed to make sure the killer doesn't kill you" victim: "that's the sam-" reporter: "today i am reporting on a case of police brutality"
The devil is in the details. The goal is for SPIFF to have killed the 9 npcs. No where in that statement prevents the defenders from killing their charges. Only preventing Spiff from doing it.
@@morgrimgaming7342 but then they could just charge and kill all 9 then say they won making the whole game pointless because the chances of him killing all 9 before the 4 of them kill 1 is impossible
@@varlak9061 Yes. That IS correct. However, you're banking on the 4 playing to the spirit, rather than the letter of the rule. Given this context, I'm surprised they didn't just go your route.
@@morgrimgaming7342 they are content creators. It's more interesting to not just kill all the npcs but killing the last one creates an interesting end. It's all for the content.
This is such a creative way to use Skyrim multiplayer, nothing wrong with a bit of yoink and twist. I'm excited to see what everyone comes up with now that it's more stable
Thanks friend. I will say the edit does make it seem a lot more stable. In total the recording process took around 6-8 hours. Without crashes it would have been about 4. Still I was blown away by the fact PvP is possible
@@thespiffingbrit Funny thing is just imagining how bad skyrim multiplayer would be if it was Bethesda that did it. I bet it would be as bad as what Fallout 76 was.
So let me get this straight... in this video Spiff was essentially an Assassin going around killing people and they thought the best way to stop him was... to kill one of Spiff's targets. Yeah I dunno about that one chief, I think Spiff won the moment they took out Nazeem for him. They were functionally Bodyguards who killed someone they were trying to protect.
The hunter's "plan" felt so much like a group of players in a DnD session just... Brute forcing logic to make a plan work in their own head. Then actually following through. "What do you mean the baron won't give us the reward? We revivified his wife!"
The funniest part is, it doesn't even fulfil their win condition. Their win condition was "Kill Spiff", which they did and "You have to protect the NPCs" which they failed to do.
I love how in a 40 minute video there are 4 seconds that compel you to "lovingly" participate with an objectively mindless observation. WelCoMe tO viDeoS. 🎃
I thought the same. I could just kill a guard, drop his dress over at the place, turn myself in, then pickup the dress of that hold and BOOM! Capslock all the way to scout the hold!!! And as a hunter i could potentially pick Spiff's prey and stalk around anyone (some in someplace with one way in and out) Grelod the Kind would be the best bet as there are room in front of the entrance and behind Grelod with doors which would perfectly hide and i would stay there patiently waiting for him. He may be invisible, but he isn't silent.
@@talagothunscathed3425 relax dude, its a friendly challenge among friends. The only thing stupid here is being a dick about technicalities over who won in a friendly game.
“You can hear the terror in my voice” *begins terrified screams” lol “He hasn’t killed me, he’s just being an asshole! Now he’s tea bagging my body..” hahaha
well it depends on the agreed upon wording of the challenge "Spiff wins when all targets are killed" Spiff wins "Spiff wins when he kills all the targets" Spiff loses
"You guys win if I die, I win if these nine people die." "Let's kill one of the people!" Classic example of following the first rule so hard you forget about the second haha
@@the_poisoned_gamer not at all. There was no rule against them doing it. If there was a rule like "you have to stop me from killing them and they must stay alive" then yes it would be cheating but there was no rule that specified that the targets had to live. They realised that the win condition was that spiff had to kill nazeem and they prevented him from doing it. It was an exploitation of a loophole, not cheating.
I mean technically there job was to protect Nazeem and yet they killed him themselves. While Spiff didn’t achieve his win condition the protectors technically initiated their lose condition in that their last NPC died. So… by technicality Spiff won.
@@liamhamilton9086 I mean if we are being technical, their job was to stop him from killing nazeem, and his job was to kill nazeem, if that means they kill nazeem they technically in the clear cuz he did not kill nazeem. NAZEEM
@@liamhamilton9086 from the description "If spiff manages to eliminate all NPCs (Including Nazeem) then he wins!" spiff did not manage to eliminate all NPCs (Including Nazeem). they eliminated Nazeem instead.
@@CzarYe I dont think that's how bodyguarding works. You can't kill the guy you had to protect and claim you protected him just because his assassin wasn't the one to kill him.
I would love to see this idea where the hunters dont get naked for no reason and attack the player and actually communicate? This feels set up what a waste o time lmao
@@bluesimine2023 Spiff's win condition is for him to kill everyone in the list. This is something he was technically unable to achieve because the hunters killed Nazeem before Spiff could. This made it impossible for Spiff to win because his win condition was that he had to kill everyone on the list himself. The hunters' win condition was that they successfully kill Spiff. They killed him. The hunters win based on the conditions set in the beginning of the video. Next time he will know to make his win condition simply be that all NPCs on the list are dead.
@@katpirarate962 Literally the very first rule he said to the other hunters was "There's 9 NPCs you guys HAVE TO PROTECT" Killing an NPC is not protecting them...
@@ithalathegayguy I forgot about that part. I thought it was "you are protecting these people" instead of "have to protect." On a rewatch of the beginning I am seeing the error of my judgment. I would would now argue that it is a tie game because neither side was fully able to achieve their win conditions.
unfortunately that doesn't work on players. I don't know about the multiplayer mod but I made an NPC shoot me with the wabajack about 20 times and was only filled with disappointment (and loading screens) there's like only 2 thing that happens when the player is hit: big damage, and hp disintegration
They should have done it with one of the other NPCs near the start so spiff would waste alot of his time trying to find them, rather than the last one, giving Spiff the win...
I don't know what you expect, the entire thing is completely scripted and fake. They come at him one by one and there were multiple times he died to NPCs but cut the video
Imagine how confused Spiff would've been if they had used a basic necromancy spell on Nazeem to turn his body into a pile of ash, making him nearly impossible to find.
Or truly fuck with spiff and sneak behind him resurrecting his kills, if done quickly enough he would have just thought they’re paralysed still meanwhile the rest swarm him.
@@scott8448 I mean it would be a great idea but you can tell zombies apart from living being cuz they have a purplish aura around them and when you aim your cursor at them it says *insert player's name*'s *insert npc's name* so he would probably get it right away.
When Spiff got himself arrested to cheese his way into solitude all I could picture was the guards dragging him along past the players, while Spiff smiles and waves at them
As long as they don't expect you to go "i was once an adventurer like you...then I took an arrow in the knee" Or "oh did someone steal your sweet roll?"
Biggest problem with doing that I’m at least this run is that he’s a Khajit. Don’t think there’s any Khajit guards beyond the trade caravan ones (although that might not be a bad strategy)
Yeah I would say the hunters lost, in manhunts you're suposed to protect the thing the speedrunner is trying to kill, not doing so themselves XD Im looking forward to see more speedruns like this. I loved the Minecraft concept but seeing this in Skyrim is a whole new level and I love it 😊
As goofy as this was them killing Nazeem was pretty much a instant win for Spiff... killing the target that you were supposed to defend is like robbing the bank you were meant to guard... lol the madness at solitude though was pretty funny as hell though
@@TWHowl IF they had to go down the route of killing one of the NPCs, they should’ve killed the penultimate NPC before Nazeem and hidden the body, would’ve given them endless time to kill him (as long as he was still sticking to killing Nazeem last)
It’s like, do you lose if the money is stolen or if the robber steals it? Because in this scenario, the money and bank are only good to them if the robber hasn’t successfully robbed it yet, and the only way they “lose,” to the letter, is if the robber “wins” and successfully takes all of the money. So on a technicality; I repeat: *on a technicality,* the robber can’t win if the money is taken by someone else first, meaning the guards can’t lose if they rob the bank and then set out to kill the robber. And we’re talking in the context of a game with defined rules as opposed to real life.
Man, mango seemed like the real bounty hunter MVP, she kept seeing spiff and predicting where he might go next and even saved the team by countering his first attempt at a blizzard.
Imagine if they had taken a page out of Spiff's book and just paralyzed Nazeem to move him and then moved him somewhere unreachable. I'd have counted that as a win, as opposed to this.
By not defining the hunters losing terms, Sniff just effed up and they just exploited that. That was a perfectly valid victory and arguably even more akin to something a exploiter would do, even if it was cheap xD.
@@DoctoroProfesoro there loss condition was having all npcs die. Them killing nazeam made them lose when they killed him. So even if spiff did not find out that nazeam was already dead he would win.
@@DoctoroProfesoro If Spiff cast a Berserk spell on the target and had other NPC's kill the target for him, you would've counted that, right? How is this any different? The hunters lost. The smarter thing for them to do would've been to kill a different target and then had Spiff waste his own time trying to find his target while the hunters leveled and geared up. They killed the final target for Spiff, therefore he won. All the targets died before Spiff died. Spiff won. They didn't exploit shit and it wasn't a valid victory. Anyone who says otherwise is inhaling a lot of copium.
@@Nilruin Strategically killing the NPCs would be a great trade off mechanic. You're down one of the resources, but allows you to bide time for other things.
@@shaggyshef855What is your definition of deep? Did you read a philosophical quote questioning the Meaning of Life and why Shrek is God? No you did not.
It was. :) (There is at least one other way into solitude if memory serves me, it's a little door that's underneath the big natural arch that most of solitude is on. Then there's some stairs and you come up in the city somewhere. There's probably at least one more somewhere as well.)
@@bencegergohocz5988 if he didn’t know that or forgot under pressure and had a creative idea, (again, under pressure) then Spiff still had a flash of genius. Genius isn’t about knowing all the things at all times.
@Jonah E Oh shut up, the whole deal with Skyrim is that everyone goes there for a new life. Also this game's main plotline is about a dragon that wants to eat the world, and you have a problem with the black guy?
@Jonah E Nope, there are multiple people who are of a similar shade to Nazeem in that city. The one race of people that aren't in that city are the Argonians, honestly.
I'd be down to do another round of this, i think there is a lot of potential for development of different strategies with some refining of the rules and an announcements mod to make the hunter's ability to track you a tad more consistent and less up to the whims of the speed runner. 1 min after killing the target, it will automatically display the kill message 2 minutes after fast traveling, it announces where Spiff had fast traveled to and of course victory is achieved if the target dies, not just by Spiff's hands
I'm indescribably unsatisfied with the ending It was an amazing concept for a video and Spiff was a total class act who tried his hardest and acted in good faith, but it was spoiled by the hunters being both really poor sports and terrible entertainers the entire way through
@@varlak9061 They act like fucking children "if i can't win nobody can" i bet if they were given op armor and weapons and ganged up on spiff to kill him they would call him bad
One could make the argument that Spiff successfully assassinated Nazeem by getting the hunters to do it for him. 🤔 Seriously though, I was fully expecting him to find the body while clipped through the map. 😂
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I love how Spiff was absoultely screwed when trying to kill Heimvar, but was saved by Todd himself when the game crashed
"I feel... disturbance in Skyrim! One of my faithful is in danger! Dividebyzeroexception, goo!"
Todd is always there for you when you need a game to crash
@@thespiffingbrit Please play this more
@@thespiffingbrit It just works!
Did you mean, Hodd Toward?
This is peak Skyrim. Your friends are distracted by a completely different dungeon quest while you're on the main quest!
hello eso, i used to watch you alot back in 2016 when i started playing skyrim!
Yooo hello eso
You should do sum similar
Yo! ESO!!!
Hey, I used to watch you as a kid
-Defend NPC
-Kill him, failing mission
"We won the challenge"
It annoys me so much
Defending the NPCs from getting killed by Spiff. "If we kil you first, you can't be killed by Spiff."
The winning terms were that Spiff had to kill Nazeem, they killed him so he couldn't. ez
@@threesomeink They are friends, you'd think they'd play fairly and be good loser but they were sore losers so they cheated. Cheating means they lose. Spiff wins.
@@threesomeink He made them to kill him by making the despair so much that they sabotaged themselves. Also huge loads of mental gymastics to justify this as a win for hunters.
I feel that Spiff really did win on a technicality. Just because his enemies were the ones that did the killing blow Spiff was the inspiration.
Yeah their job was to keep them alive and if death by bear trap counts as killing a target then npcs or players killing the target should count as a failure to defend for the hunters.
The goal was to kill all 9 NPCs before they could kill him.
All 9 NPCs were killed before they killed him.
He won the moment they killed Nazeem for him.
Nah, he won by the rules.
They had to kill him before the targets were killed, which they didn't do.
No, if we're getting technical, it was a draw.
The exact words of the challenge were-
"There's nine NPCs you guys have to protect." Which they failed at. They didn't protect any of them, so they didn't win.
"I just have to kill nine of them." Which he didn't do. He killed eight of them. And per his words, he had to kill all nine of them. So Spiff didn't win.
"For me to lose, you have to kill me" Which I guess they did, but not before both of teams failed to accomplish their task. The game already came to a draw before this happened. Which I guess means that Spiff didn't lose, but he didn't win either.
Yup, he won by the rules. The hunters are just messing with him at the end because it's pretty impossible to defend Nazeem.
I'd love to see more of this.
I think you should show more of the hunters perspective, as we didn't get much of their progress in this episode.
A grand suggestion! Thanks for the advice
showing one of them in the corner like a webcam in a livestream?
Second that.
@@thespiffingbrit no clue on how possible it is but maybe a person just dedicated to running a spectator cam, if they can swap between perspectives that would be great but if they can also freecam then they could get some other nice shots.
@@thespiffingbrit this was funny as hell pls do more stupid skyrim challenges w your friends
It'd be fun to have more versions of this with different goals. Steal items, new people to kill, quests to complete, ect.
Win the war for the Imperials while the others are trying to kill you/win for the Stormcloaks.
Speedrunner collects ALL stones of Berenzaiah while being hunted.
@@ReptillianStrike should be collecting the east pendants and players start at lv 10
No fast travel!
yeah and next time his friends can actually try and kill him and not just play around for content
I do like that Spiff was a good sport about the semi-cheap tactic the hunters used at the end. Cheers!
A cheeky bit of tomfoolery from my friends certainly makes it more entertaining
@@thespiffingbrit You cannot kill that which is already dead.
@@thespiffingbrit I mean, you definitely milked the time and distance on announcing the updates to dead NPCs too lol.
Ya each kinda cheesed XD
He definitely has to do it again, he could have done so many cool things instead of what he did...
- mass paralysis to paralyze them all
- there are runes that also paralyze and runes of fire/ice/lightning that he could use as traps
- if he cast invisibility immediately after opening the door during its opening animation he could keep the invisibility effect
- he could dress up as a guard and make them think he is an NPC
- he could have used spells like Fire Storm which does more damage than Blizzard
- he could use a staff or scrolls of Fireball to do AOE damage and obliterate them all
- cast conjure a Frost Atronach or a Dremora Lord to fight for him
- cast a Fury/Frenzy spell on the NPCs so they kill the hunters
... and so many more things these are just off the top of my head.
@@thespiffingbrit You could have cast a Raise Dead spell on Nazeem to kill him a second time
6:49 there actually is a real second entrance to solitude. If you go down the road north of solitude's entrance you can walk in a door under a big rock and it makes you enter solitude through the door at that arch next to the market.
That what I was think when he mentioned another entrance.
honestly the hype for the final battle with nazeem just for them to completely ruin it was so sad
I really hoped you would dress as a guard and try to walk casually past them just to see if they will notice a tail sticking out of armor.
I really hope this becomes a series and this will happpen hahaha 😆
0:28 "There are 9 NPC's you guys have to protect, for me to lose YOU have to kill me"
The rules were made clear at the start - Spiff Won!
Definitely don't understand how the hunters can possibly think they won, great vid though, ending was satisfying in the end
Spiff literally agreed that they won. They beat him at his own game of loopholes
@@shadowhawkrine1947 Only to not lose the fun they had the rest of the game, I know I wouldn't have been such a good sport about it when I'm playing against a bunch of children with no idea of how rules work.
@@qinjiwei5058 Yeah, no. You can’t pretend to know what’s going through his head. He admitted that they found the loophole in his wording. It wasn’t just to “not lose the fun”, that’s a crappy excuse that you have no way of verifying.
It would be halarious if he disguised himself like a guard lol
*sees Whiterun guard with tail* Oh that’s cool I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Khajiit as a guard before.
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HEY WAIT JUST A GODDAMN MINUTE!
This honestly makes so many game mechanics in skyrim more useful than the main game. I rarely ever used staffs or scrolls because it typically just made more sense to get the actual spell, and sneaking around the long way was always pointless because stealth above like 60 is essentially being invisible to NPCs
You could create a code where you can set a custom list of "target NPCs" and when they die, an all chat announcement of their death goes on a timer. This timer could also have custom options like 30 seconds or 45 seconds or 1-minute etc.
Spiff, is not a code boy, and that'd be a quite decent amount of work for a non mainstream mod that'll have very little reward - unless its a commission from spiff, it's a cool idea, but just not worth
@@PJOZeus you don't have to be code boy to write scripts in skyrim. you just execute regular game commands in a sequence.
@@PJOZeus Dream used custom mods for his manhunt series.
i'm a bit perplexed at this, i imagine it's just for content but surely Spiff won as soon as Nazeem died. Their plan would've worked if they'd killed an NPC before the last one died
Their job was to protect. The moment they killed NPC was basically them surrendering the challenge, but they tried to do mental gymastics to count it as a win.
Wait a minute, Nazeem has been killed though? That means Spiff won
Yea, like if you kick the ball into your own goal in football/soccer, the opponent team scores.
@@Zennethe you have to consider the objective though.
The objective wasn't have these npcs killed. The objective was for spiff to kill all the npcs. So by killing nazeem they stopped spiff from killing all the npcs.
So they did indeed win.
@@garrettc1973 Then the game is impossible and he isnt able to win? That makes no sense
@@brot3372 poorly established rules so yes. This channel is about abusing exploits for funny outcomes. What happened here was his friends exploited a poorly defined rule to create a funny outcome.
I will ask this though. Did spiff seem annoyed or upset by this outcome? Sounded to me like he found it funny so why does anyone care. The exploiter got out exploited, that's all.
@@garrettc1973 wait bro you’re rly getting upset by people pointing this out calm down lmaooo
This is really well-edited.
"Don't you think he might go to Morthal?"
(Smash-cut)
"So here I am in Morthal..." lol
Everyone saying the hunters won because they killed Nadeem not Spiff were definitely no fun at recess. Not the people who got invited to play.
I love how I got a conveniently placed emergency fire blanket ad at 8:32 😂
I would absolutely love to see more of this, maybe put some weird limitations on the hunters, such as one damage type per hunter, limit them between a few skills, maybe have yourself start with 1000 gold or similar? It would be really interesting to see you try it with different starts and different races, of course that would make the hunters more experienced about it all as well
I like these ideas!
+1
Healer: (Restoration, One-Handed, Light Armor)
Tank: (Heavy Armor, Block, One-Handed)
Battle Mage: (Destruction, One-Handed, Light Armor)
Warrior: (Heavy Armor, Two-Handed/One-Handed if bows are too laggy, Archery/Block if bows are too laggy)
I feel like this would be one hella team if Spiff & Co. did this again.
Spiff as the hunter vs 4 assassins might be fun too but the challenge might need tweaking, like only 1 target active at a time or assassins have individual and personal targets and can't help each other, etc.
I don't know The Hunters don't seem to be good enough for limitations lol. Them killing the NPCs shouldn't count as a win though.
I'd love to see something like this again, but you remain in a call with the hunters. As delightful as this was, half of the charm of manhunts is the banter.
Also the fact that he could take the time to run away from the murder scene before notifying the hunters like with Karl and Mathies
But then he can't explain to us what he's doing
@@Dragongaga sure he can. He just has to mute. It actually puts more pressure on the hunters though because he'll be hearing all of their scheming except for things planned ahead of time and talked about in code.
The Spiffing Brit: "I'm gonna stick to my promise and kill Nazeem last."
Valefisk and crew: "Lets cheat, secretly killing one of his targets and hide the body!"
big brain lol
Its like the code of thieves - Exploiters have honour at the very least, and then there's the savages
Not really cheating; the terms of the challenge were very specific about other details, so the wording involving Spiff killing them himself left the loophole wide open
Though given that he found the corpse before they got him, I'd argue that it's a draw
@@0bliVioid97 just not sportsmanlike, classic sore loser move "we cant win so lets just make it so no one can win"
@@0bliVioid97 the first minute of the video spiff states that the other RUclipsrs have to protect the NPCs from him... they lost simply because the rule wasn't for spiff to kill all 9 NPCs, it was for them to protect all 9 NPCs from spiff
Technically speaking Spiff is the reason as to why Nazeem was killed. Much like when someone uses an Illusion spell to cause an NPC to kill another, Spiff should get credit due to setting up the scenario and causing them to worry enough to kill the NPC they needed to protect from him
Watching Spiff play Skyrim gives me the same amount of pleasure as taking the very first sip of a perfectly made cup of Yorkshire Gold! It cannot possibly be surpassed and will always make my day…
I like how they had to protect the npcs but ended up letting him win by finishing the job for him
Am I the only one who would've probably just speedran the main quest until getting all 3 words of Unrelenting Force? That way you get levels, the hunters start having to deal with dragon attacks, AND you get the ability to yeet people away from you out of nowhere
Spiff I believe you should sometimes join in the hunters call to get a bit of taunting or whatever, it’s let’s us see more of an interaction between the hunters and the hunted!
Their reactions would've been pretty funny if Spiff expected them to kill one of the NPCs, and had one of the raise undead spells on hand to kill their zombie, thereby killing the NPC, and not losing by technicality.
And _this_ is what I would've suggested Spiff do if they tried this stunt on a potential Rematch!
I don't think he lost by technicality but that still would've been a MASSIVE flex lmao
Them killing nazeem so spiff couldnt win is one of the most petty thing ive seen in video game history that ruinded the challenge completely.
Bad sportsmanship fr
This was such a fun video. I love your usual content but I would be more than happy to see more like this as well. I loved that Mango was able to predict a few of your moves. I want them to have another chance to thwart your genius
Lol nobody is going to mention how when Mango was explaining how Spiff just glitched out of reality, she ended up approaching the wrong spot when showing the others. I thought it was funny, anyway. :)
***Some Spoilers Ahead***
This was definitely entertaining. It was a bit...boring that they killed Nazeem, but otherwise it's a good video. They did state that Spiff would have to find the body since he couldn't kill the NPC himself, so I'd say that amending the existing criterium for his own assassinating of the NPC into that, and him completing it, makes a win for him. I think he won because he satisfied the new criteria the others set (even though changing the rules mid-game is a bit... non-sportsmen-like) and didn't die until everything was completed.
I see tons of people arguing about who won and whatnot. I just wanted to share my point of view on why he won in my eyes.
If the other three substituted the rule for him assassinating the NPC by himself with him having to find the body after they did the assassination (assumedly doing so before they killed him), then it should be just as if he'd satisfied the initial rule anyway. They're the ones that essentially changed the checklist on him and he STILL completed the new task. In addition, Spiff DID complete the list in its entirety, including the altered rule, before dying. The competition comes to an end at some point no matter what way you slice it, so them killing him at the end doesn't mean much as it's over at that point, anyway.
What if winning was all the fun they had along the way?
Thanks for the spoiler warning👍
Spiff won, this is the equivalent of turning the Wii off when you're about to lose at mario kart.
@@Chirality101 who tf reads comments before watching the video jesus christ omfg
@@Randych no need to attack me buddy, sometimes I just read a few comments
This video was fantastic, idk how i missed it for so long. That being said imo the challenge was over with a spiff victory the moment they killed nazeem, which tbh was also an incredibly anticlimactic ending. The spawning of more nazeems was great tho lol
This is amazing, I hope you do some more of this content with different strategies. Could do a mini series where you go through each race to try and win
Already watched the last video 4 times. Now I've watched this one 2 times and I will keep repeating these every now and then. This are just too much fun!
Thank you Spiff and everyone involved!!
Once they killed Nazeem, they broke the natural order as the Cloud District descended upon Whiterun.
Loving this series! Definitely need more episodes! Haha
A suggestion for the hunters, they cannot be the same class.. ie one archer, one handed, two handed etc! 🤙
Proud Member of the WINNING TEAM :)
Here for the winners 🎉
Smh you evil rule manipulators
@@thespiffingbrit I know you probably don’t really care but ya. Kinda defeated the point of the whole thing if they kill them doesn’t it?
"No one noticed I killed her"
In Windhelm.
A Dark Elf.
I don't think they didn't notice, Spiff... they just didn't care.
I love how when in contact, they sound so panicked, and you sound so calm and posh. Like a proper Brit.
But really the rule should had been if the NPC dies, you win. So it don't matter who killed them, because they are still dead.
id say the win conditions would be: All the npcs are dead before being killed by a player.
lose condition: being killed by a player before all the npcs are dead.
Their job was to protect the npcs, so them killing an npc, would just be helping spiff, kinda like how if u shoot a ball into your own goal, in any sport with goals, that would count as a goal for the other team.
spiff goes so out of his way to make his unarmed attacks do 32 damage and then uses everything except unarmed 😭😭
Never thought adding at least 2 other players and a similar goal would be exactly what skyrim needs. Like who cares abt the graphics when you could be playing the entire game as a coop campaign
It is funny how this video was just a spiff of the dream stuff oh wait a second.. I meant to say that these are cool kinds of videos that put a lot of random knowledge to the forefront as normally this stuff would get overlooked or not noticed at all and it ended up putting him way ahead of everyone else.
Would be cool to see this done on more Bethesda games spiff
This was amazing, I hope you make another 100 videos like this
I think in the future, to add tension, the speedrunner should not be allowed to fast travel, and should have to alert when the target dies immediately, so they always have to flee quickly.
Literally living my Skyrim dreams. Would love to see something similar in survival mode
Yes this 100%
You should do this again but in the new Survival mode, add more complexity
thats a good idea it would help to level the playing field a little too
Since they killed the npc that they needed to protect
Spiff won.
Damn, I need more of this. Smiled the whole way through. Simply amazing.
Assassin: *going to eliminate the king*
King: alright, you four was hired to protect me… so what’s the plan?
Hunters: *aiming their weapons on king*
I was waiting for him to try and use the Scroll that he obviously lost when he was arrested because he stole it, but then he crashed
The hunters murdering Nazeem to prevent Spiff from killing him is like blowing up your own car to prevent someone from carjacking you
Stupid? Yes
yea some people are saying “it’s not in the rules” but if they have to take out the killer, they can’t do the killer’s job and say they were successful.
@@significantgumption victim: "Hello yes police i'm being hunted by a killer your supposed to protect me right"
police: "well no were just supposed to make sure the killer doesn't kill you"
victim: "that's the sam-"
reporter: "today i am reporting on a case of police brutality"
Technically it works
@@rainestorm6029 Technically, Spiff killed Nazeem by using the hunters.
Killing Nazeem and saying they won is like scoring on your own goal so the other team can't
The devil is in the details. The goal is for SPIFF to have killed the 9 npcs. No where in that statement prevents the defenders from killing their charges. Only preventing Spiff from doing it.
@@morgrimgaming7342 but then they could just charge and kill all 9 then say they won making the whole game pointless because the chances of him killing all 9 before the 4 of them kill 1 is impossible
@@varlak9061 Yes. That IS correct. However, you're banking on the 4 playing to the spirit, rather than the letter of the rule. Given this context, I'm surprised they didn't just go your route.
@@morgrimgaming7342 they are content creators. It's more interesting to not just kill all the npcs but killing the last one creates an interesting end. It's all for the content.
@@morgrimgaming7342 And for them to defend the 9 NPCs... It's literally in the first 30 seconds of the video XDDDDDD
This is such a creative way to use Skyrim multiplayer, nothing wrong with a bit of yoink and twist. I'm excited to see what everyone comes up with now that it's more stable
Thanks friend. I will say the edit does make it seem a lot more stable. In total the recording process took around 6-8 hours. Without crashes it would have been about 4.
Still I was blown away by the fact PvP is possible
"nothing wrong with a bit of yoink and twist" is how I explain my skyrim mod list to friends
@@thespiffingbrit Funny thing is just imagining how bad skyrim multiplayer would be if it was Bethesda that did it. I bet it would be as bad as what Fallout 76 was.
@@_gungrave_6802 To be fair, it wasn't BGS it was Bethesda Austen, AKA the B team. It's a miracle they even got Multiplayer in the first place
@@Romanticoutlaw It's how I explain my love life.
Spiff is so perfectly balanced that he convinced the hunters to kill his final target for him.
THIS. By telling them Nazeem was his last target he got them to kill Nazeem for him. win/win.
@@stevemolenaar2890 Only spiff won
5000iq plan from me
@@thespiffingbrit I was thinking that too "The goal was these guys have to die, never said Spiff had to kill them..."
@@beesly01 And Spiff found the corpse before allowing his own demise, I think he won squarely.
So let me get this straight... in this video Spiff was essentially an Assassin going around killing people and they thought the best way to stop him was... to kill one of Spiff's targets. Yeah I dunno about that one chief, I think Spiff won the moment they took out Nazeem for him. They were functionally Bodyguards who killed someone they were trying to protect.
They channeled the spirit of the Praetorian Guard.
Honestly who really wants to protect Nazeem?
agreed
The hunter's "plan" felt so much like a group of players in a DnD session just... Brute forcing logic to make a plan work in their own head. Then actually following through.
"What do you mean the baron won't give us the reward? We revivified his wife!"
The funniest part is, it doesn't even fulfil their win condition. Their win condition was "Kill Spiff", which they did and "You have to protect the NPCs" which they failed to do.
I love how Spiff had a genius plan to sneak up on them only for them to be alerted by some random bird that wasn't even anywhere near him
It was M4ngo's birdy sense.
When you roll 20 for perception
Todd is fighting back?
I love how in a 40 minute video there are 4 seconds that compel you to "lovingly" participate with an objectively mindless observation.
WelCoMe tO viDeoS. 🎃
@@codyyoung1039 My God. The irony in your comment is incredible.
I bet they could've absolutely scared the piss out of Spiff by dressing up as guards and waiting around one of the targets.
but only one of them was a nords
I thought this but the other way around. Like, spiff should have dressed as a guard to walk past them. I like your idea better though now.
@@ndrmartin2416 but he's playing a khajiit which aren't guard races.
I thought the same. I could just kill a guard, drop his dress over at the place, turn myself in, then pickup the dress of that hold and BOOM! Capslock all the way to scout the hold!!!
And as a hunter i could potentially pick Spiff's prey and stalk around anyone (some in someplace with one way in and out)
Grelod the Kind would be the best bet as there are room in front of the entrance and behind Grelod with doors which would perfectly hide and i would stay there patiently waiting for him. He may be invisible, but he isn't silent.
Yeah both sides missed a chance to do something very subtle like that by just casually walking around looking like a mundane NPC.
The hunters killing nazeem and then spiff implying that he already killed him was the greatest fit of irony
Nah. That was stupid lol… he won right away when they killed it.
Right? You didn't succeed the hostage situation if you murdered the hostage before the taker could
@@talagothunscathed3425 relax dude, its a friendly challenge among friends. The only thing stupid here is being a dick about technicalities over who won in a friendly game.
@@koalfish7162 god damn he pissed you off on accident
@@koalfish7162 how does him saying it's stupid translate into he's angry.
“You can hear the terror in my voice” *begins terrified screams” lol
“He hasn’t killed me, he’s just being an asshole! Now he’s tea bagging my body..” hahaha
Getting into Solitude by getting arrested to avoid the main gate is such a 200iq play
How much IQ is using the solitude windmill entrance?
How did he keep the Scroll of Blizzard though? Because arrests confiscate all stolen items right?
@@jlgaming8047 if it was marked as stolen he could have just picked the lock on the evidence chest
@@dohvah I believe that one is locked untill you have reached the wedding quest for the dark brotherhood
Undercut by him having a 1/100 hit rate with the staff
Need a part two with hunters that have a game plan 💀
need a part two with actually good hunters who arent salty casuals who get upset when they cant catch spiff lmao
@@darian697 yea that too 😭
Moving the NPCs is not a bad idea, you could aggro them instead of killing them and get them to chase you almost anywhere.
need a part two without the hunters being a bit... out there with their reasoning
Agreed. Their ineptitude ruined the vid a little.
I'd say that finding the corpse before they killed him should give Spiff the technical win.
He could have revived Nazeem and then killed him lol
I was just about to say/comment the same thing
I agree.
He did win though, them killing the target they were supposed to protect just completely invalidates the whole thing lol
well it depends on the agreed upon wording of the challenge
"Spiff wins when all targets are killed" Spiff wins
"Spiff wins when he kills all the targets" Spiff loses
"You guys win if I die, I win if these nine people die." "Let's kill one of the people!" Classic example of following the first rule so hard you forget about the second haha
nope, it was "You guys win if i die, i win if i kill these nine people" and thats a nice exploit form his friends
@@mauro_carvajal No He Said there are nine npcs you Guys have to protect. Killing someone isn't protecting?
@@MindeFlex nazeer its very protected on sovengaard
@@MindeFlex protect them from getting murdered by Brit, not by them so I say it’s still fair game
@@marshalwhite1715 protecting means keeping someone or Something alive
This absolutely needs to be a series. This was so fun.
Agreeeee
no. dumbo.
Absolutely I’d love a whole series
Yeah that'd be great
Highly agree
By rendering the challenge literally impossible I'm gonna have to call that cheating.
Nah that's called a loophole
yeah pretty sad that they're 4 and not one of them had enough iq to guess that's a stupid cheese and not fun at all
@@garrettc1973 nah that's called cheating
@@the_poisoned_gamer not at all. There was no rule against them doing it. If there was a rule like "you have to stop me from killing them and they must stay alive" then yes it would be cheating but there was no rule that specified that the targets had to live.
They realised that the win condition was that spiff had to kill nazeem and they prevented him from doing it. It was an exploitation of a loophole, not cheating.
@@garrettc1973 Shush, please. Just shush.
Since he couldn't kill Nazeem but yet he STILL found his body, that's a win in my book for Spiff
I mean technically there job was to protect Nazeem and yet they killed him themselves.
While Spiff didn’t achieve his win condition the protectors technically initiated their lose condition in that their last NPC died. So… by technicality Spiff won.
@@liamhamilton9086 I mean if we are being technical, their job was to stop him from killing nazeem, and his job was to kill nazeem, if that means they kill nazeem they technically in the clear cuz he did not kill nazeem. NAZEEM
@@liamhamilton9086 from the description "If spiff manages to eliminate all NPCs (Including Nazeem) then he wins!" spiff did not manage to eliminate all NPCs (Including Nazeem). they eliminated Nazeem instead.
@@CzarYe I dont think that's how bodyguarding works. You can't kill the guy you had to protect and claim you protected him just because his assassin wasn't the one to kill him.
@@Crancherry but in all fairness the assassin didnt kill him. if that was their job, to stop someone specific from killing nazeem, then they did it.
The whole "Spiff getting hunted by players while killing NPCs" format is one of the most entertaining things I have ever seen
I love how spiff treats it like an exploit tutorial while the hunters are losing their minds trying to get to him
Their*
Love the scream of terror when Mango spotted HE'S GOT A FUCKING STAFF
@@akitheyeetus4464 Cant believe I missed that, Im usually on top of my grammar.
Would love to see this video idea again where the hunters don’t ruin it.
I would love to see this idea where the hunters dont get naked for no reason and attack the player and actually communicate? This feels set up what a waste o time lmao
@@Guille-mz7xf it is scripted lelel. It's so painfully obvious
@@silEseal. You're scripted.
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@@Guille-mz7xf chick never playd skyrim in her life, walking around in useless common clothes
Spiff:you have to protect them
Hunters:kills last one
Spiff:thanks for doing my job
The ultimate irony was him claiming Nazeem was already dead to psyche them out. Oh little did he know then.
Technically they should have lost
They failed to protect Nazeem
So...it should be a win for Spiff on a technicality
@@bluesimine2023 Spiff's win condition is for him to kill everyone in the list. This is something he was technically unable to achieve because the hunters killed Nazeem before Spiff could. This made it impossible for Spiff to win because his win condition was that he had to kill everyone on the list himself. The hunters' win condition was that they successfully kill Spiff. They killed him. The hunters win based on the conditions set in the beginning of the video. Next time he will know to make his win condition simply be that all NPCs on the list are dead.
@@katpirarate962 Literally the very first rule he said to the other hunters was "There's 9 NPCs you guys HAVE TO PROTECT" Killing an NPC is not protecting them...
@@ithalathegayguy I forgot about that part. I thought it was "you are protecting these people" instead of "have to protect." On a rewatch of the beginning I am seeing the error of my judgment. I would would now argue that it is a tie game because neither side was fully able to achieve their win conditions.
Next time, you should get the Wabbajack and turn the other players into various objects. That would be absolute mayhem
Does that quest even work in Skyrim Together?
It already took 7 hours to make this. 🤣
unfortunately that doesn't work on players.
I don't know about the multiplayer mod but I made an NPC shoot me with the wabajack about 20 times and was only filled with disappointment (and loading screens)
there's like only 2 thing that happens when the player is hit: big damage, and hp disintegration
Sadly it doesn't work but imagine being able to turn one into a sweet roll and then eat it xD
Wabbajack doesn’t work for this mod specifically.
By definition, the hunters lost. They had to “defend” the npcs. Therefore, by killing the npc, they lost
They should have done it with one of the other NPCs near the start so spiff would waste alot of his time trying to find them, rather than the last one, giving Spiff the win...
By definition, spiff did not win either because his goal to kill the 9 npc.
There for this match was *perfectly balance* .
@@MaTaMaDia hmm fair point, there's no rule that spiff isn't allowed to brainwash them into killing for him.
@@i.a.n-1426 all the npcs have been killed
@@i.a.n-1426 Nah they just blatantly cheated
I genuinely fail to understand how on earth they thought killing Nazeem was a good idea
Millennial logic
I don't know what you expect, the entire thing is completely scripted and fake. They come at him one by one and there were multiple times he died to NPCs but cut the video
It got them the win, so it kinda was. Plus it was fun.
@@8Smoker8 it did not get them the win and kinda ruined the video as it was very anticlimactic
@@Personontheinternet4598 it got them the win and it was the best possible ending as opposed to him cheesing another pointless kill. Best ending.
"Naseem is going to be sleeping at the moment"
Well he's definitely not awake
Made me laugh so hard
I’d like to see this again but with a bit of a subterfuge strat. Get the Guard outfit for the hold and just walk in. That would’ve been funny.
that would have been class
I thought about this but the hard part is getting a guard's armor. Those guys are nigh unkillable, and you have to get one for every Hold.
@@TheWatcher328 pick pocket
@@TheWatcher328 there are dead guards in set locations
agree, also the hunters be actually any good at the game would help too
Starting the Dark Brotherhood line before killing Grelod the Kind would have been genius. You could've slept at any bedroll to get a free escape.
Not only that but a great fast travel bonus straight to morthal, genius
Wouldn't that have ruined his plan(s) of using the jails to sneak into towns? He was speeding out of jail by sleeping in the bed rolls in them.
@@madtiger45 its just for one sleep, he could have easily udes both estrategies
Don't you have to be lvl 30 to begin the Dark brotherhood quest?
@@greilthelegendaryhero252 no lol
I can't believe Spiff was able to convince the protectors to do his job for him
Imagine how confused Spiff would've been if they had used a basic necromancy spell on Nazeem to turn his body into a pile of ash, making him nearly impossible to find.
Big brain play.
Just position him to turn into ash in a bush miles away
Or truly fuck with spiff and sneak behind him resurrecting his kills, if done quickly enough he would have just thought they’re paralysed still meanwhile the rest swarm him.
@@scott8448 I mean it would be a great idea but you can tell zombies apart from living being cuz they have a purplish aura around them and when you aim your cursor at them it says *insert player's name*'s *insert npc's name* so he would probably get it right away.
@@KizaruBorsalino or not, quick thinking in an unexpected situation can go weirdly at times
Use Telekinesis on the ashes. Carry them to Solitude.
Hitting the guard to sneak in was incredibly genius, it’s awesome to see how Spiff’s mind works even without using awesome glitches!
There is another door tho 😂
@@rav3n827 yeah literally
He should have lost his bizzard scroll, because it was stolen and the guards confiscate stolen items when you go to jail or pay your bounty.
@@fishy4560 i was thinking the same thing
@@fishy4560 they stash stolen items in chest
When Spiff got himself arrested to cheese his way into solitude all I could picture was the guards dragging him along past the players, while Spiff smiles and waves at them
Lol
"he's not killing me, he's just being an a**hole"
the ultimate way to assert perfectly balanced dominance
I'm pretty sure they were explicitly told to PROTECT the npcs so I can't comprehend how they think they won 😂
😂
Video makes it clear that the objective was to stop spiff from killing the npcs, which they did.
@@garrettc1973 0:28 "There's 9 NPCs that you have to protect"
@@silEseal. "four of my friends are going to hunt me down and effectively stop me from eliminating 9 nps."
"I just have to kill 9 of them"
@@garrettc1973 It is literally at the 28 second mark... "There's nine NPCs you guys have to protect".
If they don't see player names, you can disguise yourself as a city guard and walk to any target, could be a sick strategy
As long as they don't expect you to go "i was once an adventurer like you...then I took an arrow in the knee"
Or "oh did someone steal your sweet roll?"
Biggest problem with doing that I’m at least this run is that he’s a Khajit. Don’t think there’s any Khajit guards beyond the trade caravan ones (although that might not be a bad strategy)
That would be an amazing idea if he was a nord, but since he's a beast race his tail can be noticed very easily
On top of Spiffing being Khajit, it's rather difficult to act like an NPC.
@@EvilSantaTheTrue Racism wins again :(
Yeah I would say the hunters lost, in manhunts you're suposed to protect the thing the speedrunner is trying to kill, not doing so themselves XD
Im looking forward to see more speedruns like this. I loved the Minecraft concept but seeing this in Skyrim is a whole new level and I love it 😊
As goofy as this was them killing Nazeem was pretty much a instant win for Spiff... killing the target that you were supposed to defend is like robbing the bank you were meant to guard... lol
the madness at solitude though was pretty funny as hell though
You’d assume they just inherently know that’d be against the rules, that he’d need to clarify beforehand is kinda dumb.
@@TWHowl IF they had to go down the route of killing one of the NPCs, they should’ve killed the penultimate NPC before Nazeem and hidden the body, would’ve given them endless time to kill him (as long as he was still sticking to killing Nazeem last)
It’s like, do you lose if the money is stolen or if the robber steals it? Because in this scenario, the money and bank are only good to them if the robber hasn’t successfully robbed it yet, and the only way they “lose,” to the letter, is if the robber “wins” and successfully takes all of the money. So on a technicality; I repeat: *on a technicality,* the robber can’t win if the money is taken by someone else first, meaning the guards can’t lose if they rob the bank and then set out to kill the robber. And we’re talking in the context of a game with defined rules as opposed to real life.
Man, mango seemed like the real bounty hunter MVP, she kept seeing spiff and predicting where he might go next and even saved the team by countering his first attempt at a blizzard.
It's really sweet. She knows how his devious little mind works. Adorable.
Shame she sounded like a 4 year old screaming
Ikr I was like man m4ngo is on it
I know right!? M4ngo was on the case!
I am honoured you would call me an MVP … Inspector Mango is always on the case 💼
*swinging violently into thin air*
"She's just checking for invisible people." This video was beyond entertaining.
Well that’s what she was doing…
Imagine if they had taken a page out of Spiff's book and just paralyzed Nazeem to move him and then moved him somewhere unreachable. I'd have counted that as a win, as opposed to this.
Agreed.
By not defining the hunters losing terms, Sniff just effed up and they just exploited that. That was a perfectly valid victory and arguably even more akin to something a exploiter would do, even if it was cheap xD.
@@DoctoroProfesoro there loss condition was having all npcs die. Them killing nazeam made them lose when they killed him. So even if spiff did not find out that nazeam was already dead he would win.
@@DoctoroProfesoro If Spiff cast a Berserk spell on the target and had other NPC's kill the target for him, you would've counted that, right?
How is this any different?
The hunters lost. The smarter thing for them to do would've been to kill a different target and then had Spiff waste his own time trying to find his target while the hunters leveled and geared up. They killed the final target for Spiff, therefore he won. All the targets died before Spiff died. Spiff won.
They didn't exploit shit and it wasn't a valid victory.
Anyone who says otherwise is inhaling a lot of copium.
@@Nilruin Strategically killing the NPCs would be a great trade off mechanic. You're down one of the resources, but allows you to bide time for other things.
Skyrim is always more fun with friends, as long as you don't show them your modlist.
What is this 3BA mod ? And what is osa and Ostim ?
@@AsianLing you don’t want to know
@@AsianLing I feel like an utter degenerate for knowing those mods
@@ruinenlust_ what does it do?
@@Commrade-DOGE 3BA is a body mod. Osa and Ostim are _very_ interactive segs mods.
Not gonna lie that was really frustrating that the hunters cheated with Nazeem. Very anti-climatic end to a great video.
it’s not that deep man
@@shaggyshef855What is your definition of deep?
Did you read a philosophical quote questioning the Meaning of Life and why Shrek is God? No you did not.
@@donutlovingwerewolf8837 what
@@shaggyshef855 Reread the original comment that you replied to you and come back to me.
@@shaggyshef855 - He is desperately trying to look smart, but failing miserably at it.
Hitting the guard to get around the door was absolutely genius!!
It was. :)
(There is at least one other way into solitude if memory serves me, it's a little door that's underneath the big natural arch that most of solitude is on. Then there's some stairs and you come up in the city somewhere. There's probably at least one more somewhere as well.)
I use the same trick when going into Whiterun and my character's backstory has them living in the city already.
Except that there's a second entrance to Solitude above the warehouse on the docks
it wasn't, there's a spiral staircase that leads to the marketplace.
@@bencegergohocz5988 if he didn’t know that or forgot under pressure and had a creative idea, (again, under pressure) then Spiff still had a flash of genius. Genius isn’t about knowing all the things at all times.
I love how Nazeem is so loveable that the people who is supposed to protect him are the ones that killed him...
True
@Jonah E I mean there’s plenty of traveling merchants in Skyrim. Pretty sure Nazeem’s just stuck-up. Not sure what you’re on about.
Now THAT'S yandere.
@Jonah E Oh shut up, the whole deal with Skyrim is that everyone goes there for a new life. Also this game's main plotline is about a dragon that wants to eat the world, and you have a problem with the black guy?
@Jonah E Nope, there are multiple people who are of a similar shade to Nazeem in that city. The one race of people that aren't in that city are the Argonians, honestly.
I'd be down to do another round of this, i think there is a lot of potential for development of different strategies with some refining of the rules and an announcements mod to make the hunter's ability to track you a tad more consistent and less up to the whims of the speed runner.
1 min after killing the target, it will automatically display the kill message
2 minutes after fast traveling, it announces where Spiff had fast traveled to
and of course victory is achieved if the target dies, not just by Spiff's hands
Fast travel is OP 45s is enough to hide.... Also 1:45 min pin on map where hunter kill someone (not target from list)
I'm indescribably unsatisfied with the ending
It was an amazing concept for a video and Spiff was a total class act who tried his hardest and acted in good faith, but it was spoiled by the hunters being both really poor sports and terrible entertainers the entire way through
They didn't even seem nearly as bright as him and pulled a childish "YoU DiDn'T KiLl HiM tHo"
yes, what a bunch of losers
@@varlak9061 They act like fucking children "if i can't win nobody can" i bet if they were given op armor and weapons and ganged up on spiff to kill him they would call him bad
@@varlak9061 Old video but it reminds me of how toddlers try to twist the rules to say they won lmao
One could make the argument that Spiff successfully assassinated Nazeem by getting the hunters to do it for him. 🤔
Seriously though, I was fully expecting him to find the body while clipped through the map. 😂
I 100% agree that this is Spiff's victory, especially since he found Nazeem's body before he (Spiff) died
That would have been so good. And then he could have resurrected him with a console command before murdering him again in front of the hunters' eyes.
@@resileaf9501 Should've kept the Ritual Stone honestly.
@@MultiDakman Nah the crash with Heimvar saved him 100%, if we're going this route we call it a tie
What is this body HERE?!?
(screen zooms and shakes furiously)
There's got to be a sequel this was a blast to watch
100% agree
But before that the hunters should watch some of Spiffs Skyrim videos and learn some exploits, you know, even things out a little