Living on a SAILBOAT that's 50+ YEARS old|MINIMALISM at Sea|E15

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @nickviner1225
    @nickviner1225 4 года назад +5

    She may be 50 years old but you have made her look new again. I know from personal experience, just how much satisfaction is contained in doing a good restoration.
    Regards and stay safe Nick.

  • @CadohaAdventures
    @CadohaAdventures 4 года назад +17

    Love seeing an old boat bought back to life. There's something about them, they have a character that so many brand new boats seem to. be missing. Good job guys! ⛵️😁

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +3

      Thanks so much! They do have a lot of character for sure. Cheers !

  • @sailingthecosmos191
    @sailingthecosmos191 4 года назад +24

    You know you're a fan when you hit the like button before the video even begins.
    Stay safe, stay healthy and happy ⚓⛵❤

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +1

      Aw thanks so much 🤗🤩your awesome
      Thanks for watching too. Stay safe!

  • @idreecemian2192
    @idreecemian2192 3 года назад +1

    Could not have been put together in another better way. My feelings to be on tbe water have got new wings.

  • @SailingAlma
    @SailingAlma  4 года назад +1

    What year is your sailboat made?
    Thank-you for all for watching, liking, and sharing this episode!
    We hope all of you are staying safe, and are in good health. You are all in our thoughts!
    For more updates check out
    instagram.com/sailingalma

  • @harveymushman2219
    @harveymushman2219 3 года назад

    You did a wonderful job on your boat...Looks fantastic she now gets another 50 years because of you 2

  • @Noniinthebush
    @Noniinthebush 3 года назад +3

    I have to say, you are the tidiest sailors I’ve seen so far!

  • @larrypawell3198
    @larrypawell3198 4 года назад

    Wonderful to see what you have done to update your Ericson 41. My family owned an Ericson 41 for 27 years out of Newport, California. It was 5 years old when my folks bought it and had 15 bags of sails on it, having already been on Transpac twice and raced to Tahiti once. Your video bought back fond memories for me. Thank you.

  • @pdevrin
    @pdevrin 3 года назад

    Age is just a number.....but the again....jail is only a room.....well done the refit.....fantabulous

  • @joesurfer9754
    @joesurfer9754 3 года назад

    This is the best boat restoration I have ever seen. This is a VERY nice boat with perfect lines. It reminds me of a mini J-Boat.

  • @konferowicz1967
    @konferowicz1967 4 года назад +5

    What a dream life.....Most of us can only dream about it.It is nice to see your videoblog

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks 😊 we are happy to have you following our adventures

  • @z20000z
    @z20000z 4 года назад +3

    Great job, you honored her well! I wish your little family and pup the best!

  • @allied1394
    @allied1394 4 года назад +5

    Such a beautiful boat I’m sure it never gets old pulling up to her seeing her now after you brought her back to life. She really is a beauty with a lot of character something new boats are lacking

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much! 😊😊 she does have a lot of character. Its amazing how much detail older boats have

  • @MrLemonbaby
    @MrLemonbaby 4 года назад +3

    Thank you so much for sharing this life style. What a wonderful baby!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much for watching! Happy to have you following our adventures!

  • @kymbiddell7467
    @kymbiddell7467 4 года назад +3

    A lot of the points you cover is how we find traveling with a caravan around Australia for 4 to 6 mths at a time, always feels strange when we get home - so much space & things that you don’t really need. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to your next sailing adventure, stay safe

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +1

      That’s wonderful kym i bet you guys have amazing times! Thanks for watching!stay safe!

  • @grancito2
    @grancito2 4 года назад +3

    That yacht is beautiful. I am old and sailed on 1920 racing yachts like her in my child days, great times.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +2

      Thanks so much. Wow that’s incredible!! I bet you have wonderful memories!

    • @grancito2
      @grancito2 4 года назад +2

      @@SailingAlma Yes a wonderful time cruising the Pacific, the yacht I lived on, 40 ft, was built in 1920 and won many races, we met the designer/ builder and went for a sail with him on his newest boat, 62 ft, that looks like your boat, really fast, only 10 ft beam, great experience, I wish you great times.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +2

      Wow 🤩 that is incredible!! What an amazing experience!

  • @MrA1582000
    @MrA1582000 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful classic boat and your craftsman ship is truly evident in the restoration. Just lovely.

  • @Nowayjose564
    @Nowayjose564 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for being so very authentic and down to earth, I really like how you create your videos. Thank you, you've become one favorite channels. Stay healthy.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much Darryl! Wow this means a lot! So glad you enjoy our videos and channel! Looking forward to hearing from you again! You as well 😊

  • @uclamutt118
    @uclamutt118 4 года назад +2

    I wasn’t sure what to expect when I clicked on this but I love your video! You do such a great job with the cinematography, editing, captions, etc. It’s just so pure and innocent. Keep up the great work!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much! This means a lot to us!!!! We are thrilled you enjoy the video and our editing style. Looking forward to hearing from you in future videos!

  • @bessarion1771
    @bessarion1771 4 года назад +2

    My Sabre 28 was built in 1972...I love it.

  • @alanscott6241
    @alanscott6241 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful video and lovely lady {boat & missus}. Have a wonderful life!👍😎🌴🙏🇺🇸⛵⛵⚓

  • @mikeshier1271
    @mikeshier1271 4 года назад +5

    The Ericsons do have a classic beauty. I have been sailing a Ericson25 for sixteen years and if I ever upgrade, I would look at Ericson first. You've done a beautiful job restoring Alma. Have a great journey.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks Mike!! Wow thats great! Cheers 🍻

  • @ralphwood9865
    @ralphwood9865 4 года назад +3

    Your boat is immaculate and such gorgeous classical lines

  • @markperry4220
    @markperry4220 4 года назад

    You have a very fine classic IOR class race boat. Great design and a fun sailing boat. She looks great. Have a fun time playing with your yacht.

  • @kennymonty8206
    @kennymonty8206 3 года назад

    how wonderful. I hope you folks are continuing to get the best out of life. Big hug from America.

  • @pjdgoblue8852
    @pjdgoblue8852 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for sharing this wonderful video. Beautiful family and Journey. Wishing you all the best!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks Paul! Wishing you the best as well

  • @davethemmp3763
    @davethemmp3763 4 года назад +2

    Love the PVC headliner, and the roof over the cockpit, you definitely went beyond where Ericsson ended, nice build guys.

  • @pbj2501
    @pbj2501 4 года назад +2

    Wow ,what an amazing Mom and wife 👍❤️🇺🇸

  • @MuammarHamed
    @MuammarHamed 4 года назад +1

    Been toying with the idea of purchasing my first sailboat for about 2 years now you're inspirational video has allowed me to remove that doubt I will be purchasing a sailboat! I'm currently living in San Diego I will be driving up to Dana Point next week to take a look at a few options I have selected! THANKS again! You guys are awesome and your baby is completely adorable

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      MrTruetwin Wow 🤩 that is amazing!!!! We are so happy for you. This is a big step and we wish you all the best in this process. Cheers 🥂 and thanks for watching our videos

  • @matthewotto8322
    @matthewotto8322 4 года назад +3

    One of the prettiest remodels I've seen

  • @salogg1
    @salogg1 4 года назад +1

    Congratulations, It's so beautiful to learn that people can live in this such peace way in these tormentors days

  • @amonster8mymother
    @amonster8mymother 4 года назад +1

    Oh she's lovely. Nicely restored. I would love to do that. 👍🇨🇦😷

  • @MCS1993
    @MCS1993 4 года назад

    Thanks for sharing your beautiful experience. May God guide your journey

  • @stevefarms7494
    @stevefarms7494 Год назад

    I have it in my planes well it's in the works that in 2 yrs my search for a boat begins and in the meantime I am watching and learning about different boats and I am starting to have a list ones that I like... And that's how I came across your channel

  • @PeterHatch-mx7zc
    @PeterHatch-mx7zc 4 года назад +1

    Just watch this video again beautiful boat !!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks Peter! Happy to hear you watched it again!

  • @charlescartwright6367
    @charlescartwright6367 4 года назад +2

    Alma has the most beautiful lines of any of the sailing videos on your-tube. I am enjoying the fact that you in contrast to others are a family. Your young one should be a real sailor. Mahalo for sharing, Aloha ke Akua

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much Charles! This means a lot to us. Yes she sure will 😆

  • @stevekinney7423
    @stevekinney7423 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for sharing. As a land based amphibian I found your video thoroughly interesting.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Happy to hear this Steve! Thanks for watching

  • @daviddixon8778
    @daviddixon8778 4 года назад +3

    Beautiful restoration! Nicely done, I can only imagine how much work that was, but what a reward to sail away on your home/transportation/investment.

  • @mcc.o.4835
    @mcc.o.4835 4 года назад +43

    Not gonna lie, that's an attractive boat.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +1

      MC O. Thanks 😊

    • @xs10z
      @xs10z 4 года назад +1

      That's a good thing, because that would be a dumb thing to lie about ; )

  • @bobbykirl7894
    @bobbykirl7894 4 года назад

    We are on a Tayana Vancouver 42. Very similar in size and ability to yours. We are loving the life! She’s an ole girl too but not as “experienced” as your Alma. Thanks for sharing her with us.
    SV Beautiful Day - New subscribers

  • @joshuareece5045
    @joshuareece5045 4 года назад +2

    Hi! I’m restoring an older boat right now. This is great inspiration! Have fun and stay safe out there!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thats awesome Joshua!! What type of boat? Stay safe 😊

    • @joshuareece5045
      @joshuareece5045 4 года назад +1

      Sailing Alma it’s a 1977 Catalina 27. Not planning on any ocean crossings with it, just getting the family out on the water for weekend adventures locally here in SoCal. Not sure if you’ve got the footage or not, but I’d love to hear more about the process you went through painting your interior. I’m having a few issues with the original wood stain seeping through. Wondering if you had similar issues and what you did.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Joshua Reece nice boat ! Unfortunately we dont have any filming of that. We wish we did. We did two coats of primer since the wood was seeping through and then Painted the final
      Coat.

  • @wadefair
    @wadefair 4 года назад +4

    I worked for Ericson yachts in the 70's. She looks amazing, really nice work you guys.

  • @bobblack6816
    @bobblack6816 4 года назад +4

    She is beautiful!!!! Great job! 👍

  • @anthonyfasano3456
    @anthonyfasano3456 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for the video its beautiful boat. You guys are blessed.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching Anthony! Stay safe

  • @wisdomsquare28
    @wisdomsquare28 4 года назад +1

    I have a suggestion about some things. Is there a way to capture rain water and have it flow into a barrel that you could use for things? Sorta like capturing rain off a house roof. Maybe a PVC hook up running straight to barrel. Also, you could use oversized PVC and make your own storage places around boat! You could cap the ends with solid cap on one end and a threaded end on front. Great for storage and lightweight as well. You could make shelves inside of your boat. You have to get a solar cooker for your food. Great out in all that sunshine you guys are in. Will save much of your gas. You'll love the taste of your food. Utilize as much of DIY technology as you can. All PVC pipe can be glued together eliminating need for special tools for shelves and other things. Use zip ties to put in place around boat. Hope this helps. Thank you for sharing your beautiful boat with us. Stay safe and enjoy life.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks Teri. For watching and for your great advice!! We love to hear the innovative ideas from others

  • @todpatn9782
    @todpatn9782 4 года назад +1

    Nice job on your work you’ve done on your boat really nice.

  • @JAVIERGARCIA-my6tk
    @JAVIERGARCIA-my6tk 4 года назад +1

    Me encanta el proceso de restauración que ustedes hicieron y el estilo minimalista hace la vida mas fácil los felicito ,,,

  • @lucianosantucci108
    @lucianosantucci108 3 года назад

    Beautiful and inspirational - thanks for sharing

  • @christophermcdonald8211
    @christophermcdonald8211 2 года назад

    I really enjoyed your video , great work on giving love to your boat , a real credit to you both .

  • @joantaylor468
    @joantaylor468 4 года назад

    Our family of 4 lived aboard a 41 ft ketch made by Formosa Boat Company of Taiwan in about 1974. We bought Moonshadow in 1980 and sold her about 1989. It was a great exoerience. Our girls were 9 and 12 when we sold our house in Orange, CA and used the profit to buy her outright for $55k.

  • @territodude
    @territodude 4 года назад

    Great job on the boat and thanks for sharing!

  • @michaelfunk5951
    @michaelfunk5951 3 года назад

    What a beautiful life you have!

  • @peterfischer5459
    @peterfischer5459 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for sharing... what a beautiful boat.

  • @MikeLoveBuns
    @MikeLoveBuns 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful classic 41ft sailboat ⛵️! 😀⛵️😘 Mike from Missouri

  • @ramondariobaezfelipe1776
    @ramondariobaezfelipe1776 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful family, beautiful lifestyle.
    God bless you and enjoy your life in a boat for a long, long time!!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much Ramón! Means alot. Bendiciones para ti tambien.

  • @LoanwordEggcorn
    @LoanwordEggcorn 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for a nice video and great restoration and modernization!
    Safety note: close the deck hatches and portlights when under way. Open hatches can lead to a loss of the boat in the wrong conditions. Also turn the vents (wind scoops, Dorade vents, etc.) backwards. The vents should only face forwards when not under way.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching Loanword!
      👍

  • @frankriberio1806
    @frankriberio1806 4 года назад +1

    Hello Alma it's good to see you again.

  • @openmicsandiego
    @openmicsandiego 2 года назад

    Fantastic restoration guys!!

  • @randalltom9750
    @randalltom9750 3 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed the video. It’s good to see two people in love... with each other, and embracing the challenges together as a team. Age is just a number... although, as I age, it sure seems increasingly difficult. So, while I’ve dreamed of doing what your doing, I’ll enjoy you two or three. You have a beautiful family. I can tell, that you’re both wonderful parents. Merry Christmas... and smooth sailing.

  • @johnnydeutschemark3620
    @johnnydeutschemark3620 4 года назад +2

    Tasteful restoration of the interior. Love the dark hull, lovely boats. Not sure about the cockpit roof but in sunnier climates I am sure the extra shade & protection from weather makes it all more livable.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks Johnny for watching! It is great especially in the heat we wish we had a full enclosure though maybe later on! We look forward to hearing from you in the future videos have a great week

  • @earlashton1342
    @earlashton1342 4 года назад +2

    Wow. You have done a great restoration.

  • @michaellui74
    @michaellui74 4 года назад +2

    Great video beautiful boat . Life seem more worry free on the water than living on land:-):-):-)

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks Michael, and for watching!

  • @arnellaquian7878
    @arnellaquian7878 4 года назад +1

    Wow...a 50years old sail boat...great!!! Still in very good performance... God Bless you n your family...i havent subscribe

  • @SIC-SEMPER-TYRANNIS
    @SIC-SEMPER-TYRANNIS 4 года назад +4

    Great Video!! I just bought a 1978 Irwin 45, I'll see you out there soon!!!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +2

      Thanks Jason!!! Thats awesome congrats to you!!

  • @TeriCunningham-g7d
    @TeriCunningham-g7d 6 месяцев назад

    Beautiful life, so happy for you.

  • @HaswellTravelled
    @HaswellTravelled 4 года назад +2

    Great boat, great lifestyle! You are brave and adventurous - hats off to you guys. Take care and stay safe in your journeys 😀👍

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +1

      Thanks so much Haswell!!! Means alot

  • @sickoftheworldtoday
    @sickoftheworldtoday 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful family! Great job on the boat! I love this!

  • @grantwebster64
    @grantwebster64 4 года назад +2

    Hi guys, congratulations on a superb refurb. I know the sweat & tears, + $ that these projects take! Done a few over the years, just embarking on another. Good luck with the sailing life. Cheers Grant New Zealand. 👍🥂

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Hi Grant! Thanks so much! Yes it definitely does. Congrats to
      You. What are you going to
      Restore this time?
      Cheers 🍻

    • @grantwebster64
      @grantwebster64 4 года назад

      @@SailingAlma This time a solid glass Herreshoff 11mtr from the 80s. Heavy long keel cruiser, be great for the Sth Pacific islands, Fiji etc. Be much slower than your boat. Cheers

  • @vivianbond7449
    @vivianbond7449 3 года назад +1

    I like the look of your boat to look s a safe boat to

  • @stephi9707
    @stephi9707 4 года назад +3

    Boat looks great! Stay safe love and miss you guys

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much ❤️❤️❤️ love and miss u

  • @pranithmahanti7208
    @pranithmahanti7208 4 года назад +2

    That's a really cool boat. I appreciate the effort you put to bring it back to life..

  • @ZoneTelevision
    @ZoneTelevision 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful. Love the simplicity and what ya'll have done with it.

  • @vincentswerkes8637
    @vincentswerkes8637 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful boat, I have an Ericson 28+ and love how it sails.

  • @johnshares
    @johnshares 4 года назад +2

    Brilliant video, thank you. First I must learn to swim !! Then stop the wife from shopping so we can save up for my dream boat.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching John . 😆

  • @edsonmeincheim205
    @edsonmeincheim205 4 года назад +1

    It's amazing to see your experience on it. This life's styles is pretty good.
    Edson from Jaraguá do Sul SC Brazil

  • @grahammewburn
    @grahammewburn 4 года назад +3

    I live on an old boat myself. It's a Hartley 34. She's about 40 years old. 10 foot beam. Your beautiful vessel probably has 50% more space than my own.
    Cheers Gray Australia

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Wow thats great! I bet shes a beauty

  • @calmadventuresmeaningfulmu1534
    @calmadventuresmeaningfulmu1534 3 года назад

    The narrative was so good really great

  • @mountaindweller9118
    @mountaindweller9118 4 года назад +2

    Nice job as always! Looking forward to following your journey.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much!!! Always nice to hear from you

  • @silvanocometta9760
    @silvanocometta9760 4 года назад +9

    This is the boat with the nicest lines of all yachts on RUclips. Eye-catching refit, too. Could you show us some more details about the structures you built for shade, solar and davits. They are quite unique. Regards from Switzerland. Silvano

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +2

      Thanks so much Silvano! We went into a little more detail
      About the projects we did on our Abandoned Sailboat Transformation video, but
      May do a more detailed vid down the line.
      Thanks for watching. Cheers 🍻

  • @cq7415
    @cq7415 4 года назад +1

    Good video, nice couple. The outside really looks nice after paint. Thanks.

  • @bobblack6816
    @bobblack6816 4 года назад +2

    I LOVE ❤️ The grey interior!

  • @robertoler3795
    @robertoler3795 4 года назад +1

    you folks have done a great job

  • @glsmsmith
    @glsmsmith 4 года назад +5

    1st vid I watched of yours , Pat your self on the back , what a good entertaining well told story , I am hooked

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks George!!! Happy to have you following our adventures!

  • @itsmedaveh5516
    @itsmedaveh5516 4 года назад +2

    I love the boat. I am surprised that you didn't modify the amidships bunk to give yourselves more living space. Beautiful yacht.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Dave! Great idea. We were seriously thinking of doing that but once we had Aria we thought it would be a great place for to sleep... but that didn’t work out lol 😆 so we just kept it. Thanks for watching, stay safe.

  • @4englishlies875
    @4englishlies875 4 года назад +4

    She has great lines, would love to see if you have any some Restoration videos. That would be great for me , love to see how people do and make the decisions that they do when doing there restorations.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад +1

      4 englishlies thanks! We wish we would have filmed more detail of doing the restoration. Unfortunately it was taking to much time to film at the same time doing the projects. But our Abandoned sailboat transformation is a quick snapshot of what we did.
      Thanks for watching and stay safe 😊

  • @georgeburns7251
    @georgeburns7251 4 года назад +1

    What a beautiful boat.

  • @PeterHatch-mx7zc
    @PeterHatch-mx7zc 4 года назад +6

    A beautiful boat !! Reminds me of that boat in one of bond films

  • @tombaker3081
    @tombaker3081 4 года назад

    Question: Does the dark blue paint make the boat much warmer inside? Thanks and have a great day!

  • @theislandpackrat
    @theislandpackrat 4 года назад +4

    You've done a great job! Love the boat!

  • @williamwright6382
    @williamwright6382 4 года назад +2

    Brilliant you guys what you've done ,boat looks amazing great job 👍

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks William. 👍👍👍

  • @robertgorlee2552
    @robertgorlee2552 4 года назад +2

    Life can be beautifull ; ) If it lasts forever, we can all enjoye this one day!

  • @coldnorthadventures5905
    @coldnorthadventures5905 3 года назад +1

    You have a really nice boat. l can only imagine how much time you spend refitting the boat, l do that too to my Hallberg Rassy but l like it.

  • @sailingsomeday5975
    @sailingsomeday5975 4 года назад +2

    Great Channel - Love your voice over style....Keep it up - stay safe and healthy and most important - have fun!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much means a lot! Stay safe

  • @000T00b
    @000T00b 4 года назад +2

    Lovely boat. Lovely family. The simple life. Subscribed.

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks so much we are glad to have you following our adventures

  • @TheGoldeyFamily
    @TheGoldeyFamily 4 года назад

    Amazing restoration!!

  • @jethmalompanon6569
    @jethmalompanon6569 4 года назад +1

    Wow such a beautiful sailboat.....

  • @timwoods603
    @timwoods603 4 года назад +2

    Great vlog guys. Look forward to the next one .

  • @officialWWM
    @officialWWM 4 года назад

    I'm currently restoring a 50 year old Hartley Vixen. It's a much smaller boat than this one but it's a big challenge for me. I'm sure it will be worth it :)

  • @grandmomz6656
    @grandmomz6656 4 года назад +2

    Nice work like always, Mr. and Mrs. fixer uppers ❤️❤️❤️

  •  4 года назад +1

    ericson made some GOOD BOATS. !!!! and the hulls in those boats were THICK and sturdy.!!!!

    • @SailingAlma
      @SailingAlma  4 года назад

      Thanks Harold and yes they are ! Cheers