That's what I noticed too. I have a theory that modern fire and lightning bending (along with all other forms of bending) became quick and precise because they use bending for sport and entertainment; whereas bending from the old days are rudimentary but powerful, because they use bending to kill.
The technique lost power when it became public knowledge, probably to make it more practical, as before it was only available to royalty, who are the 1% in terms of talent.
The reason it was even a tight fight was because Zuko cxhoose to eat a lighting bolt directed at Katara. He was actually winning that final fight, and Azula knew that if she used lighting he'd just throw it back in her face again
14:15 "However, there's a problem for Zuko because there's one thing Mako has that Zuko lacks, and that's strong determination" 14:43 "Mako has been knocked down many times, but he never stays down." Excuse me what the actual sea prune. Zuko's grit and determination to move forward are literally his main driving force throughout his redemption arc. Book 1 Episode 20 "My father says she [Azula] was born lucky. He says I was lucky to be born. I don't need luck though, I've always had to struggle and fight, and that's made me strong. It's made me who I am"
I don't think they are that far off tbh. At least if we're comparing them by the end of their respective shows. Zuko just had 60 episodes dedicated to growth while all of mako's training was off screen.
@@raze2012_In terms of most feats Zuko is better. Durability for example, Mako got knocked unconscious when he got hit by his own lightning. Zuko tanked a lighting shot by Azula, who was amped by the comet
@@cullex.2851 it's hard to compare because you gotta remember that Zuko still partially redirected the lightning. So he didn't necessarily tank a full comet Amped lightning strike
I think after Zuko took over, he started bringing the correct version of Firebanding to the people, including the inhabitants of both the fire nation and other territories. In fact, I don't think that understanding the "right" way is so important, yes it helped Zuko when he lost his source in rage and anger and helped Aang who was afraid of fire. But if the "false" source - whatever it is -continues to work, then what difference does it make? Skill and technique are more influenced on result I don't think Zuko would have defeated Azula if she hadn't started going crazy.
@@Medbrat99 because he is not fighting out of pure aggression and became way better defensively wise and attack wise but him incorporating the other elements to his fire bending is what made him more on par with his family members.
Saying Zuko doesn't have strong determination is wild ngl. Bro legit haunted aang for all his life. Till he found redemption. Mako is a good fire bender so sad Lok didn't explore his character fully. But Zuko wins easily. I mean, HE FOUGHT OZAI!
Just mentioning something. Mako learned how to redirect and produce lighting which is weiredly common in LOK than ATLAB .In the end Zuko still wins because of obvious reasons
he didn't fight ozai he redirected his lightning something he was only able to do bc ozai wasn't aware he could do it he wins but definitely not easily
Dude, AMAZING VIDEO! Like, you seriously took every aspect of their strong and weak sides, the montage is great and overall it was pleasure to watch it! Keep it up!
I think the lightning bending in Korra's era is less powerful than Aang's, in Aang's era lightning bending is depicted as a fearsome form of lethal firebending and can easily kill someone, but in Korra's era lightning bending lost its art and meaning which makes it not as powerful
I think the changing of bending forms and culture plays a part. Similar to a fighting coach teach you to transfer your weight through your hits to connect with more force
no it only seems that way because the lightning bending was rare not many fire benders could do it mainly the royal family so ofc they'regonna be better at it than the randoms we see using it but mako argubly has the best lightning feats in the series besides ozai
@@TheTrueStrongest the lightning in ATLA was much more destructive than LOK. That has more to do with the writing but if we looking for a canon response then there is probably a trade off for bending the way the original benders do
@@TheTrueStrongestno, it definitely is way less powerful. Look at the instances of mako blasting people with lightning head on, they don't stay down for long. Sure he's fast with it but it doesn't do much damage. Azula on the other hand almost killed aang and zuko, both of them needing weeks of recovery afterwards. Lightning bending in LoK is mainly used to generate electricity, so they trade power and lethality for stability and continuous use. And even then, it's not instant, yes he doesn't make much movements, but he still needs time to charge and aim. And when he needs to generate powerful lightning like when he was overcharging the vines, it took him time
Makos probably the fastest lighting generator, faster than Zuko can redirect. I mean there’s no way mako isn’t a lighting bending prodigy! Mako just seems exponentially more dangerous to me, because much like Zuko he doesn’t hold back yet hes still more dangerous. Keep in mind, Mako in lok was the same age as Zuko towards the end of atla. Like this guy doesn’t think twice about killing anybody, even crazy ass Azula was more merciful then he is. I think Zuko would win, but not without incredible difficulty.
@@Yeibaldreamss Mako can’t lightning bending, in fact nobody in Avatar Korra can lightning bending. What they do is called electricity bending which is way weaker than lightning bending.
@@QrowTheGoat dragon fire shows your mastery in firebending. according to comics. Theres Normal Fire > Azula Fire > Dragon Fire. Its the same fire when the dragons Ran and Shaw judged Zuko and Aang
zuko has the advantage, not only he has the original firebending from the dragons, but he's also an excellent swordsman, he has two of the best teachers he could ask for Iroh and Piandao, but mako is also strong he defeated two of the strongest water bender in the series ming hua and amon( ofcourse with korra), its a close match but im gonna go with zuko
Honestly the fire nation’s biggest weakness was the fact that they never worked on understanding the nations they were trying to conquer. If they did every fire bender would be way stronger than they were.
Medium difficulty at best but im sure when that Avatar movie comes out or the zuko solo movie hell most likely be over even azula at her best. Unless they also show azula in either movie
Zuko, wins. Period. He grew up during war-times. Zuko, was born into a royal family. Heir to the throne. He comes from a lineage of ELITE (God-like) firebenders. Zuko, is DIFFERENT. Also, he’s spiritually in-tune with his bending.
@@MichaelMichaelMichael. everyone knows Zuko can redirect lightning. Read my previous comment again. I said “mako can *both* lightning bend and Redirect lightning” Zuko can’t bend lightning
zuko wins easily because mako was raised on the streets and therefore never received much of any professional firebending lessons or teachings. zuko was raised in the royal palace, had all of the best and most skilled teachers, and even experienced connecting with the dragons, the original firebenders. mako had none of these opportunities, making it impossible for him to truly stand a chance.
By the end of book 3 Zuko surpassed both Ozai and Iroh. His literal destiny was literally to surpass Iroh as a fire bender, since he has both Royal and Roku's blood and learned from the dragons.
Zuko claps Mako cheeks easily. You’re comparing a guy who has been on the front lines fighting day in and day out to a guy that would be considered a talented athlete at best at pro bending. There is no contest
Strongest character that Zuko has defeated: Zhao. A BUM in human form. Strongest character that Mako has defeated: Ming-Hua. A bender that Zuko himself thought can take down anyone. Nostalgic ATLA glazers back at it again😂😂😂
Why would anyone even try to compare Zuko to Mako.. I mean it is obvious it's just a pretext to post a video. But I'll still click it so I guess it works! X_X
because ppl love to compare lok and atla and these r the 2 firebenders from both team avatars and its defininitely not obvious mako has the advantage when it comes to lightning if u ask me but zukos fire bending is better
Are we gonna ignore the fact that zuko is the best assassin in the whole avatar series and has incredible determination and discipline. He beats make with eye's closed. LOK was more of mature* series compared to ATLAB so were the series made later we would've seen his true potential
Zuko has waaay more talent and potential. It was just always blocked till Book 3 and he was a late bloomer. They literally say in the comics that Rokus blood gives them greater potential. After Book 3 Zukos potential is about equal to Azula. Mako is a peasant,Zuko is descendant of an Avatar and a royal family member. His inner power and "genetic" potential is far above any firebender except his sister He is also stated as the best fire bender in the nation in his old age,and he even was an instructor to firebenders
Wouldn't be backwards? Zuko was born in the royal family, and even if weaker that the other members of his family, he still has immense talent, he just not a genius, on the other hand Mako was a peasant who had to build himself from the ground to get where he is now.
Lol what are you on about? What's with the elitism? Mako is definitely naturally talented and has a lot of potential because if he was trained and learned the things Zuko had learned, he'd be incredibly! I don't know where all this 'peasant and royalty' shit came from but it's very ironic given we've seen our very own peasant girl Katara take on royalty Azula and won. Twice, almost
Zuko by a landslide it’s not even a question bro has been going toe to toe with azula for majority of his life and is considered a very skilled fire bender. And azula is way more then anything mako has dealt with in Korra.
One point I'd like to make about Mako's lightning is that perhaps it happens faster because he usually doesn't take the time to charge it up like Azula and Ozai are often seen doing, which would account for it being weaker. The one time he needed to charge it was in the final episode, and he took his time in doing so. So perhaps the weaker bolts aren't so much a case of Mako being weaker, but Mako having more control or not having enough time to charge it up (ie, versus Amon while being bloodbent or while being attacked by Ming-Hua).
I think it's more a question of intent than anything else. In ATLA lightningbending is the ultimate firebending move, the most lethal one only known by the elite and only used with the intent to kill. So in ATLA they charge it until they think it will kill and then release. Ozai for example being a master of it was able to almost instantly launch a lethal blast right after the eclipse, showing that charging time is dependent on the mastery. In LoK, lightningbending is most commonly used to generate electricity. In that case the priorities are low intensity continuous blasts to avoid damaging the machinery and mast an entire workday. Mako who is more used to this style of lightningbending carries it over when he fights, delivering fast blasts but with low intensity and the ability to make continuous blasts. The only time his lightning did severe damage was against ming hua who was covered by water in the middle of a lake, so it was not on his own. We see him charging for a long time in the finale to produce high intensity lightning, so we can be sure in assessing that he is not very proficient with this style of bending and would not try to use it in fights
Mako is more clear-headed and determined to win. Mako's battle IQ is better. Mako won most every battle not because he is the stronger bender, but because he's quick to capitalize on situations and opponent's weaknesses. If I ever wanted to recruit secret agent, I would choose Mako over Zuko. Zuko's battle code relies heavily on his own morals, righteousness, and honor. Every fight he fought is all about putting his very soul at the center of the conflict. This has it flaws. He would more likely to lose in elements of surprise. And he would over-extended just because he wanted to prove his strength. But people are more easily to put trusts in him this way. And that's what being the new fire lord is all about.
Zuko's stealth and infiltration abilities are nearly unmatched in Avatar. Dude sneaks in nations, prisons, fortresses, palaces and does what he needs to do and is gone. Youuu...don't want that on your team?
Zuko beating Zhao isn’t that big of a deal? Are you forgetting that Zhao was an Admiral? A highest ranking officer in the Navy. Common give Zuko his flowers
to be fair, Zuko can tanked and lived through a Sozin comet boosted lighting from Azula. sure it knocked him out, but th that was like he is out of stance, had to improvise on the fly to help bailed Katara out of Azula surprised attack. and remember he take Ozai(who at the time the greatest fire bender) surprise lightning and redirected it. I don't think Mako lightning gonna be that much of a factor in this match up.
Zuko wins, not only because he’s just that guy, but because his upbringing and battling what he was taught to be vs what he wanted to be. Plus he learned from the dragons with Aang how firebending truly works
Zuko, and unfortunately its not close. Itd be entertaining for a but, but Zuey would outclass Mako. His versatility with firebending, especially after embracing Iroh advice of studying and incorporating the other elements, give him an diverse tool set that will give Mako trouble. Zuko is a better hand to hand combatant, and has used charge attacks, fire daggers, fire whips, two finger fire darta, empty handed fire cancelling parry's, fire waves, the list goes on.
ok it’s crazy tho how mako has near levels of talent of people of royalty like azula and zuko who was a late bloomer, if he were to gone through what zuko did i believe he could have the potential to be greater
-Zuko is better at fire bending. -Mako is better at lightning bending. -Zuko is better at hand to hand fighting. -Zuko's more agile and slippery. I give it to Zuko.
None of the arguments for Zuko makes sense. They are all a bunch of “Zuko, wins because he’s my favorite” type shit. Mako and Zuko are pretty equal. What makes Mako superior is his ability to *both bend and redirect lightning* Zuko can only redirect lightning, this is only useful if he sees a lightning attack coming at him. Any sneaky lightning attack will obliterate him just like Azula did to Aang. I like Zuko character better but I don’t see him winning in a fair first based on feats we’ve seen in the animation. If we incorporate assumptions and statements then zuko has a higher chance of winning. But based on feats only? Mako takes it without doubt.
Based on feats mako takes nothing. His instant lightning if weak and only knocks back people. He only took ming hua down because she was in a lake. So his lightning won't do anything. He also barely uses it in fights, only as last resort. Zuko was raised and trained for war. He knows way more advanced techniques. The only advantage mako has is his quick bending. But even then zuko showed more than capable of performing quick bending too. Both are very talented but one is an athlete and detective that occasionally gets involved in bigger stuff while the other is a soldier that regularly goes up against the prodigees of his time. Mako wins against reckless zuko but not fire lord zuko
@@docomega7862 his “weak lightning was enough to destroy a spirit vine”. Yeah I think he can do more than just “knock back” people. We don’t know any Fire Lord Zuko feat that makes him superior to mako. The same Zuko that was trained for war was easily beaten by Azula and members of team avatar, so I don’t think “raised and trained for war” is a good argument here. What “way more advanced techniques” are used referring to? The “Way more advanced techniques” I know are Combustion and Lightning bending. Do you mean “fighting style”? I don’t see how zuko’s fighting style is “way superior to mako. If lightning bending wasn’t allowed, the Zuko would have been more like to win. If mako didn’t know how to redirect lightning, I would have said 50/50. But mako can redirect lightning too. The odds are on his side.
@@harrolddjani And again you are manipulating the context. Mako has 2 types of lightningbending. His "instant" bending which he primarly uses and was only able to knock back amon despite being point blank. And his more pwerful bending tht he used to overstimulate the vines to the point the destroyed themselves. This bending as you can see if you rewatch the scene takes a long time to charge, as long or longerr than any ATLA lightning bending we've seen. So either mako does not deal enough damage to end the fight with his lightning, or he leaves himself wide open. Azula beating zuko is not an anti feat for zuko, azula was raised in the same conditions as zuko and has even more raw talent. Then you've also got to take into account their mindset at the time. Zuko only gained a stable mindset that allowed him to use the full range of his abilities after he discovered dragon fire. So all his feats of "easily" (only aang beatss him "easily" when he's at full health but whatever) don't matter as they were alays a result of his recklessness. Firelord zuko contends (although gets consistently beaten but puts up a hell of a fight) with azula once she overcomes her mental illness, that azula being even stronger than before and having access to wild lightning bending feats. Zuko is a better martial artist than mako, being able to take on many skilled benders with only his swords. Zuko was taught true firebending which allowed him to in the span of days, at most weeks, go from getting recked by azula to stalemating with her on the airship. He also showed way more control over his bending than mako, sustaining fire for hours while walking and climbing, and using his breathe to retain his firebending in an area specifically made to prevent firebending. Those are all skills that mako is not shown to have and prove zuko's more advanced level. I'd also like you to point out one time where mako redirected lightningbending. The only time I could find is when he redirects the electricity from the mech. Electricity that very obviously is not on the same level as the lethal lightning zuko is used to given that mako survived it without any injury despite only starting to redirect it later. Mako is a very proficient athlete, but when it comes to a real fight, he gets constantly overpowered by his opponents, only ahcieving victory by using his environment (against ming hua) or in an extreme pinch (against amon's follower's mech). He is also shown to get quickly overwhelmed by an opponent with non bender skills and weaponry such as amon's followers. He is very resourceful for sure, but he doesn't hold up against zuko
@@docomega7862 I brought up the fact that mako can redirect lightning in case someone argued that Zuko can redirect Mako’s lightning back at mako. The reason why I did go in depth with their ability is because that is very arbitrary, both are on the same tier. Zuko is a better martial artist yes, but mako is very agile and good at using his environment to his advantage. Zuko is also a better martial artist than Azula. That never seemed useful against her. I don’t see how walking and climbing for hours while sustaining fire would help him. Mako was never shown/portrayed to not be in control of his fire. I’m sure if the plot needed him to sustain fire he would have too. Part of Zuko’s arc was perfecting his bending because is wasn’t perfect to begin with. We never saw Azula improving her bending abilities cause she didn’t need to, she was an excellent bender already and so was Mako. If there was a fire bending scale from Novice Advanced Competent Proficient Expert mako, Azula and Zuko would all be expert. Who wins depends on mostly plot.... but still a great advantage. Mako and Azula are very agile but Zuko can keep up with them Zuko is an excellent martial artist but Azula and Mako can also hold their own against sword user (using swords in not rare). the only *clear* advantage is lightning bending.
@@harrolddjani Zuko and Iroh glazers who has a massive hard on for them all have the same false notion that learning from dragons = god level firebenders.
I mean If both of them are in their prime, they’re both good in their own right, but this is like comparing a martial arts master to a pro boxer. Not only does Zuko Win this fight, it’s not even close…
The fact that when aang was struck by azulas lightning he died and only was heald using spirit water and only woke up after 2 weeks but when zuko was shot katara used regular water to heal him and he woke up after a few days
Everyone can have opinions but quite frankly Zuko completely washes him he’s the fire lord for a reason chosen by the dragons and has the skills of each element this is clear that Zuko is far superior
Zuzu for me because he found his potiential and is taught by his uncle not to mention found his core with the master dragons but Mako is skilled too and a pro bender and can use lightning and skilled too but compared to Zuko's mastery so for me Zuzu will win this
Durability should go to Zuko, the amount of times the Gaang hit him in S1 should’ve put him down but he ended up still alive and without permanent brain damage.
how are we even copmaring them? Zuko survived a lightning from his father when he was a kid. For some background his father is the same guy that killed every air nomad except aang.
The lethality of the Atla's lighting is wild no one was surviving a direct hit but in Lok it tickled people
That's what I noticed too. I have a theory that modern fire and lightning bending (along with all other forms of bending) became quick and precise because they use bending for sport and entertainment; whereas bending from the old days are rudimentary but powerful, because they use bending to kill.
The technique lost power when it became public knowledge, probably to make it more practical, as before it was only available to royalty, who are the 1% in terms of talent.
Can you name 1 character who died because of it?
@averax9875 bro just look at the difference between the lighting shot and the damage it did to the terrain between the 2 series.
@Skywalker96214 that actually makes sense considering the whole sports league
Saying zuko lacks determination is the highest delusion I've ever seen
fr
bro went on a hunt for the avatar for 3 years, is that enough determination?
Let's not forget he was a young teen then imagine adult zuko
@@unc4nny17 "whre is my honor?"😂
@grannymort right? Where the Avatar believed to be dead or old. Like looking for a fairytale that doesnt exist.
No one is mentioning the fact Azulas lighting was boosted by sozins comet and zuko still survived.
cuz he redirected it idiot😭
Cause katara healed him
So was Zuko lol
The reason it was even a tight fight was because Zuko cxhoose to eat a lighting bolt directed at Katara. He was actually winning that final fight, and Azula knew that if she used lighting he'd just throw it back in her face again
because katara was there
Zuko wins, because he has honor.
“I need my ~HONOR~”
Fake Azula: LOOK...IT'S YOUR HONOR!
Fake Zuko: WHERE?!
@@daniellee8162Zuko: Look! It’s your mental h-
Azula:(Runs out the field)
It's the top invincible comment guy !
Is this suppose to be a joke, or are you just a butt hurt die hard atla fan/korra hater?
Zukos determination was insane he was chasing team avatar the whole time until he joined he gave them ptsd
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@@ronshlomi582 lol fr
14:15 "However, there's a problem for Zuko because there's one thing Mako has that Zuko lacks, and that's strong determination"
14:43 "Mako has been knocked down many times, but he never stays down."
Excuse me what the actual sea prune. Zuko's grit and determination to move forward are literally his main driving force throughout his redemption arc.
Book 1 Episode 20
"My father says she [Azula] was born lucky. He says I was lucky to be born. I don't need luck though, I've always had to struggle and fight, and that's made me strong. It's made me who I am"
dude also jumped 50 ft to catch a 12 yr old kid
Book Three - Episode: Boiling Rock - "You have to try every time. You can't quit because you're afraid you might fail."
Not him hunting the avatar for 3 years
how could you even compare an ordinary sportsman with a firelord?
Athlete
Right
I don't think they are that far off tbh. At least if we're comparing them by the end of their respective shows. Zuko just had 60 episodes dedicated to growth while all of mako's training was off screen.
@@raze2012_In terms of most feats Zuko is better.
Durability for example, Mako got knocked unconscious when he got hit by his own lightning. Zuko tanked a lighting shot by Azula, who was amped by the comet
@@cullex.2851 it's hard to compare because you gotta remember that Zuko still partially redirected the lightning. So he didn't necessarily tank a full comet Amped lightning strike
Zuko wins because he knows the right fire bending
I think after Zuko took over, he started bringing the correct version of Firebanding to the people, including the inhabitants of both the fire nation and other territories.
In fact, I don't think that understanding the "right" way is so important, yes it helped Zuko when he lost his source in rage and anger and helped Aang who was afraid of fire. But if the "false" source - whatever it is -continues to work, then what difference does it make? Skill and technique are more influenced on result
I don't think Zuko would have defeated Azula if she hadn't started going crazy.
He knows the source. Azula did not and she was wayyyy superior.
@@johanluisrivas8016azula was teached fire bending from a young age while zuko was kicked out
@@Medbrat99 because he is not fighting out of pure aggression and became way better defensively wise and attack wise but him incorporating the other elements to his fire bending is what made him more on par with his family members.
@@johanluisrivas8016bro she was unhinged prior the fight. Don’t make this an excuse for her losing.
Pov makes face after his only firebending trick is getting redirected: 😮
"You're someone who keeps fighting even when it's hard"
“No lightning today? What’s the matter, afraid I’ll redirect it?!”
Saying Zuko doesn't have strong determination is wild ngl. Bro legit haunted aang for all his life. Till he found redemption.
Mako is a good fire bender so sad Lok didn't explore his character fully. But Zuko wins easily. I mean, HE FOUGHT OZAI!
IKR
Just mentioning something. Mako learned how to redirect and produce lighting which is weiredly common in LOK than ATLAB .In the end Zuko still wins because of obvious reasons
3 years, but you're still right.
he didn't fight ozai he redirected his lightning something he was only able to do bc ozai wasn't aware he could do it he wins but definitely not easily
It's extra easy @@TheTrueStrongest
The difference between Zuko and Mako is that Zuko is a warrior whereas Mako is just an athlete. It's like comparing a boxer to a spartan
Did you know that the Spartans were skinny?
The Boxer is winning lol
Mako should try beating General Iroh (Zuko's son) before going H2H with Zuko😂😂
Zuko is literally invincible once you think about it he is like super saiyan at all times.
Dude, AMAZING VIDEO!
Like, you seriously took every aspect of their strong and weak sides, the montage is great and overall it was pleasure to watch it! Keep it up!
Thanks a lot!
I'm glad you enjoyed watching 😃
I think the lightning bending in Korra's era is less powerful than Aang's, in Aang's era lightning bending is depicted as a fearsome form of lethal firebending and can easily kill someone, but in Korra's era lightning bending lost its art and meaning which makes it not as powerful
I think the changing of bending forms and culture plays a part. Similar to a fighting coach teach you to transfer your weight through your hits to connect with more force
no it only seems that way because the lightning bending was rare not many fire benders could do it mainly the royal family so ofc they'regonna be better at it than the randoms we see using it but mako argubly has the best lightning feats in the series besides ozai
@@TheTrueStrongest the lightning in ATLA was much more destructive than LOK. That has more to do with the writing but if we looking for a canon response then there is probably a trade off for bending the way the original benders do
Nah they just use more quick lightning rather than the 10 second charge of atla
@@TheTrueStrongestno, it definitely is way less powerful. Look at the instances of mako blasting people with lightning head on, they don't stay down for long. Sure he's fast with it but it doesn't do much damage. Azula on the other hand almost killed aang and zuko, both of them needing weeks of recovery afterwards. Lightning bending in LoK is mainly used to generate electricity, so they trade power and lethality for stability and continuous use. And even then, it's not instant, yes he doesn't make much movements, but he still needs time to charge and aim. And when he needs to generate powerful lightning like when he was overcharging the vines, it took him time
Zuko wins, but Mako it more powerful than people give him credit for.
Makos probably the fastest lighting generator, faster than Zuko can redirect. I mean there’s no way mako isn’t a lighting bending prodigy! Mako just seems exponentially more dangerous to me, because much like Zuko he doesn’t hold back yet hes still more dangerous. Keep in mind, Mako in lok was the same age as Zuko towards the end of atla. Like this guy doesn’t think twice about killing anybody, even crazy ass Azula was more merciful then he is. I think Zuko would win, but not without incredible difficulty.
@@YeibaldreamssHis lighting is probably weaker then average lighting tbh
@@Jeesepinkman what makes you say that?
@@Yeibaldreamss well it's a theory but the lack of destruction and it seems weaker then something like firelord ozai or azulas lighting
@@Yeibaldreamss Mako can’t lightning bending, in fact nobody in Avatar Korra can lightning bending. What they do is called electricity bending which is way weaker than lightning bending.
Zuko wins because if they took away both of their bending zuko would have been fine but mako would have not.
but what if they didnt take?
@@kjkh3104 Still Zuko because Zuko have dragon fire
@@renzbay123dragon fire isn’t a real thing. it’s just a martial art and has no power buffs.
Ok,take off zuko's swords. He's bad in h2h
@@QrowTheGoat dragon fire shows your mastery in firebending. according to comics.
Theres Normal Fire > Azula Fire > Dragon Fire.
Its the same fire when the dragons Ran and Shaw judged Zuko and Aang
Nice video, I watched every second of it :D
Wow, thanks
zuko has the advantage, not only he has the original firebending from the dragons, but he's also an excellent swordsman, he has two of the best teachers he could ask for Iroh and Piandao, but mako is also strong he defeated two of the strongest water bender in the series ming hua and amon( ofcourse with korra), its a close match but im gonna go with zuko
Honestly the fire nation’s biggest weakness was the fact that they never worked on understanding the nations they were trying to conquer. If they did every fire bender would be way stronger than they were.
Zuko wins but it’s definitely not an easy fight for him
Medium difficulty at best but im sure when that Avatar movie comes out or the zuko solo movie hell most likely be over even azula at her best. Unless they also show azula in either movie
yes it is especially adult zuko.,, he would literally fold mako stop being a dumbass hes a firelord for a reason mako is fodder material
@@chrisoz95 no if you've seen the comics he still gets whooped by azula constantly not as badly but he's not above azula
@satorugojo7160 yea I know he does but I said when the movie comes out it's going to be pass what we seen in comics there adults.
Id say no difficulty ZUko will beat him with efficiency
It was never a question. Zuko had this from the start
Thank you so much ❤❤, the was the funniest video ever. You were completely right.I agree with you
Again thank you for making Mako vs Zuko as I ask❤❤
You are so welcome
We should also take into account that we still haven’t seen Zuko’s prime
You failed to mention Azula, and ozai’s lighting bending were powered by sozins comet while blood lusted
not ozai's
8:09 wow finally some emotion in the talking
Zuko will beat him like a thief
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Thank you!
Zuko, wins. Period. He grew up during war-times. Zuko, was born into a royal family. Heir to the throne. He comes from a lineage of ELITE (God-like) firebenders. Zuko, is DIFFERENT. Also, he’s spiritually in-tune with his bending.
"Hallo Zuko here"😂
Bolin: Mako, it's SUICIDE 😰
😂😂I'm telling you
9:22 what hell does fire sneezing even do bruh 😭😭
Distract opponents
@@MindBursterz I think we both know that sneeze didn’t do nothing to that guard
@@savfiorit wasn’t meant to do anything it was just meant to be a distraction for mako and bolin to go help korra and the others
14:15 maybe zuko is impatiente but he has insane determination he never gave up chasing the avatar for 3 years without stoping
mako is like the lite version of zuko
Not really, more like an upgraded.
Mako can do everything Zuko can.
The difference is that Mako can both Lightning bend and Redirect Lightning
@@harrolddjanithat’s false zuko can redirect lightning as well
@@MichaelMichaelMichael. everyone knows Zuko can redirect lightning. Read my previous comment again.
I said “mako can *both* lightning bend and Redirect lightning”
Zuko can’t bend lightning
@@harrolddjaniimagine calling that clown an upgarde of zuko😂
@@javierlopez9789 I love Zuko more but mako has more chances to win against him.
Zuko being a fan favorite is not an argument in a 1v1 debate
16:35. In Mako's opening debut he faced 3 opponents by himself, PROFESSIONALS and won. How is Zuko faster?
zuko wins easily because mako was raised on the streets and therefore never received much of any professional firebending lessons or teachings. zuko was raised in the royal palace, had all of the best and most skilled teachers, and even experienced connecting with the dragons, the original firebenders. mako had none of these opportunities, making it impossible for him to truly stand a chance.
Hearing zuko doesn’t have determination is crasaazy
I’d say he’s more confused about his place in that world
Fun Fact: Zuko was trained by the same guy sokka was trained by
By the end of book 3 Zuko surpassed both Ozai and Iroh. His literal destiny was literally to surpass Iroh as a fire bender, since he has both Royal and Roku's blood and learned from the dragons.
Zumo is master of the fire bending technique and also has the advantage of the the other elements techniques
Zuko claps Mako cheeks easily.
You’re comparing a guy who has been on the front lines fighting day in and day out to a guy that would be considered a talented athlete at best at pro bending.
There is no contest
Strongest character that Zuko has defeated: Zhao. A BUM in human form.
Strongest character that Mako has defeated: Ming-Hua. A bender that Zuko himself thought can take down anyone.
Nostalgic ATLA glazers back at it again😂😂😂
@@γαμώ bro remember that zuko has a sister
@@γαμώhe beat Azula
Why would anyone even try to compare Zuko to Mako.. I mean it is obvious it's just a pretext to post a video. But I'll still click it so I guess it works! X_X
Its actually a somewhat common thing. Type in zuko vs mako and like 4 videos come up
because ppl love to compare lok and atla and these r the 2 firebenders from both team avatars and its defininitely not obvious mako has the advantage when it comes to lightning if u ask me but zukos fire bending is better
Now this is one dope video☺️ Zuko wins easily.
Are we gonna ignore the fact that zuko is the best assassin in the whole avatar series and has incredible determination and discipline. He beats make with eye's closed. LOK was more of mature* series compared to ATLAB so were the series made later we would've seen his true potential
Since he learnt from the literal species that taught humans firebending... I'm voting Zuko
You rise with the moon I rise with the sun
It be cool to see a deathbattle between Zuko and Mako
Mako = lightning
Zuko = fire
Post dragon interaction Mako gets slapped. He doesn’t scale anywhere near Azula and Zuko during the comet invasion was able to defeat Azula.
Мако гораздо сильнее азулы
Okay.. but are we really surprised here?
We all just clicked on this video to hear why Zuko is better
Zuko causally reacts to lightning consistently that basically puts his speed at light speed which definitely gives him the edge
"Gazi baby" 10:04 💀💀💀💀
Mako vs Zuko, talent vs hard work
Zuko has waaay more talent and potential.
It was just always blocked till Book 3 and he was a late bloomer.
They literally say in the comics that Rokus blood gives them greater potential.
After Book 3 Zukos potential is about equal to Azula.
Mako is a peasant,Zuko is descendant of an Avatar and a royal family member.
His inner power and "genetic" potential is far above any firebender except his sister
He is also stated as the best fire bender in the nation in his old age,and he even was an instructor to firebenders
Wouldn't be backwards? Zuko was born in the royal family, and even if weaker that the other members of his family, he still has immense talent, he just not a genius, on the other hand Mako was a peasant who had to build himself from the ground to get where he is now.
zuko is talented he was just surrounded by people more talented lol azula ozai iroh compared to his family he has no talent
Lol what are you on about? What's with the elitism? Mako is definitely naturally talented and has a lot of potential because if he was trained and learned the things Zuko had learned, he'd be incredibly! I don't know where all this 'peasant and royalty' shit came from but it's very ironic given we've seen our very own peasant girl Katara take on royalty Azula and won. Twice, almost
@@SONICRULZ123ifyзачем ему проходить обучение Зуко,если он уже далеко впереди?
Fire bending looks so much smaller in tlok
I think Zuko takes it. But I really wish Zuko would mix his sword skills and his firebending together
Zuko by a landslide it’s not even a question bro has been going toe to toe with azula for majority of his life and is considered a very skilled fire bender. And azula is way more then anything mako has dealt with in Korra.
One point I'd like to make about Mako's lightning is that perhaps it happens faster because he usually doesn't take the time to charge it up like Azula and Ozai are often seen doing, which would account for it being weaker. The one time he needed to charge it was in the final episode, and he took his time in doing so. So perhaps the weaker bolts aren't so much a case of Mako being weaker, but Mako having more control or not having enough time to charge it up (ie, versus Amon while being bloodbent or while being attacked by Ming-Hua).
I think it's more a question of intent than anything else. In ATLA lightningbending is the ultimate firebending move, the most lethal one only known by the elite and only used with the intent to kill. So in ATLA they charge it until they think it will kill and then release. Ozai for example being a master of it was able to almost instantly launch a lethal blast right after the eclipse, showing that charging time is dependent on the mastery.
In LoK, lightningbending is most commonly used to generate electricity. In that case the priorities are low intensity continuous blasts to avoid damaging the machinery and mast an entire workday. Mako who is more used to this style of lightningbending carries it over when he fights, delivering fast blasts but with low intensity and the ability to make continuous blasts. The only time his lightning did severe damage was against ming hua who was covered by water in the middle of a lake, so it was not on his own. We see him charging for a long time in the finale to produce high intensity lightning, so we can be sure in assessing that he is not very proficient with this style of bending and would not try to use it in fights
Baby Gazzy = Bolin 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mako is more clear-headed and determined to win. Mako's battle IQ is better. Mako won most every battle not because he is the stronger bender, but because he's quick to capitalize on situations and opponent's weaknesses. If I ever wanted to recruit secret agent, I would choose Mako over Zuko.
Zuko's battle code relies heavily on his own morals, righteousness, and honor. Every fight he fought is all about putting his very soul at the center of the conflict. This has it flaws. He would more likely to lose in elements of surprise. And he would over-extended just because he wanted to prove his strength. But people are more easily to put trusts in him this way. And that's what being the new fire lord is all about.
Zuko's stealth and infiltration abilities are nearly unmatched in Avatar. Dude sneaks in nations, prisons, fortresses, palaces and does what he needs to do and is gone. Youuu...don't want that on your team?
Yes Zuko wins, but it's not so easy as many people think.
Zuko absolutely wipes the floor with Mako. How is this even a discussion? 😂
Zuko beating Zhao isn’t that big of a deal? Are you forgetting that Zhao was an Admiral? A highest ranking officer in the Navy. Common give Zuko his flowers
2:00 bruh😂😂😂😂
Wait when zuko used his firebending to cut katars water tentacles and free azula its kinda like when wan seperated raava and vaatu😮😮😮
For bending and lightning bending were also buffed by the comet make zuko have greater durability
14:05 this was uncharged lightning, it’s bound to be a lot weaker as there’s clearly a reason they do charge it up before firing.
to be fair, Zuko can tanked and lived through a Sozin comet boosted lighting from Azula. sure it knocked him out, but th that was like he is out of stance, had to improvise on the fly to help bailed Katara out of Azula surprised attack. and remember he take Ozai(who at the time the greatest fire bender) surprise lightning and redirected it.
I don't think Mako lightning gonna be that much of a factor in this match up.
@@littlelw319это говорит лишь о том,насколько у азулы слабая молния,раз даже с кометой не вырубила Зуко
Zuko can beat mako without even fire bending
Nah
Using his swords 😈
@@SeñorGato4356 exactly
@@johanluisrivas8016 hell ya
Well prolly not cuz of how fast mako can use lightning up close
Nah just imagine comparing an athlete to a friggin Fire Lord
Zuko is the only one that's fought both fire lord ozi and azula and survive
he's not tho. Aang did too. and katara saved both of them in the end after fighting azula with spirit water
@@nicoletara353 aangs the avatar so i didn't really count him especially cuz he literally got revived after fighting azula but i see your point
Well not many fought them period
It's the difference between a combat sports athlete and a soldier. Only one fights to survive.
What difference does it make what he's fighting for when he's knocked out with one punch?
Zuko wins, not only because he’s just that guy, but because his upbringing and battling what he was taught to be vs what he wanted to be. Plus he learned from the dragons with Aang how firebending truly works
"he's just that guy,"
That bum can't even shoot lightning.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@γαμώ He doesn't need to. If Katara hadn't come over while they were fighting Zuko would have beaten Azula easily.
Zuko, and unfortunately its not close. Itd be entertaining for a but, but Zuey would outclass Mako. His versatility with firebending, especially after embracing Iroh advice of studying and incorporating the other elements, give him an diverse tool set that will give Mako trouble. Zuko is a better hand to hand combatant, and has used charge attacks, fire daggers, fire whips, two finger fire darta, empty handed fire cancelling parry's, fire waves, the list goes on.
Hi, I just opened the video, I will not see it, Zuko wins, end of discussion, have a nice day ❤
Have a nice day
Zuko wins as he has honour and mastered the true nature of fire bending. He’s a Fire Lord fs
The fact mako uses normal fire bending while Zuko learned from the dragons already tells me, Zuko will curbstomp mako
ok it’s crazy tho how mako has near levels of talent of people of royalty like azula and zuko who was a late bloomer, if he were to gone through what zuko did i believe he could have the potential to be greater
-Zuko is better at fire bending.
-Mako is better at lightning bending.
-Zuko is better at hand to hand fighting.
-Zuko's more agile and slippery.
I give it to Zuko.
Its not even a question Zuko for the Win
All mako Is about to do is just blast lightning at him but zuko has taken a shot of lighting to his chest and redirected it
5:49
Wrong. Zuko has ALWAYS done flares in his bending. From day one. It's how he broke Zhao's root.
14:54 I agree Zuko is more powerful than Marko in fire bending
None of the arguments for Zuko makes sense.
They are all a bunch of “Zuko, wins because he’s my favorite” type shit.
Mako and Zuko are pretty equal.
What makes Mako superior is his ability to *both bend and redirect lightning*
Zuko can only redirect lightning, this is only useful if he sees a lightning attack coming at him. Any sneaky lightning attack will obliterate him just like Azula did to Aang.
I like Zuko character better but I don’t see him winning in a fair first based on feats we’ve seen in the animation.
If we incorporate assumptions and statements then zuko has a higher chance of winning.
But based on feats only? Mako takes it without doubt.
Based on feats mako takes nothing. His instant lightning if weak and only knocks back people. He only took ming hua down because she was in a lake. So his lightning won't do anything. He also barely uses it in fights, only as last resort.
Zuko was raised and trained for war. He knows way more advanced techniques. The only advantage mako has is his quick bending. But even then zuko showed more than capable of performing quick bending too. Both are very talented but one is an athlete and detective that occasionally gets involved in bigger stuff while the other is a soldier that regularly goes up against the prodigees of his time. Mako wins against reckless zuko but not fire lord zuko
@@docomega7862 his “weak lightning was enough to destroy a spirit vine”. Yeah I think he can do more than just “knock back” people.
We don’t know any Fire Lord Zuko feat that makes him superior to mako.
The same Zuko that was trained for war was easily beaten by Azula and members of team avatar, so I don’t think “raised and trained for war” is a good argument here.
What “way more advanced techniques” are used referring to?
The “Way more advanced techniques” I know are Combustion and Lightning bending.
Do you mean “fighting style”? I don’t see how zuko’s fighting style is “way superior to mako.
If lightning bending wasn’t allowed, the Zuko would have been more like to win.
If mako didn’t know how to redirect lightning, I would have said 50/50.
But mako can redirect lightning too. The odds are on his side.
@@harrolddjani And again you are manipulating the context. Mako has 2 types of lightningbending. His "instant" bending which he primarly uses and was only able to knock back amon despite being point blank. And his more pwerful bending tht he used to overstimulate the vines to the point the destroyed themselves. This bending as you can see if you rewatch the scene takes a long time to charge, as long or longerr than any ATLA lightning bending we've seen. So either mako does not deal enough damage to end the fight with his lightning, or he leaves himself wide open.
Azula beating zuko is not an anti feat for zuko, azula was raised in the same conditions as zuko and has even more raw talent. Then you've also got to take into account their mindset at the time. Zuko only gained a stable mindset that allowed him to use the full range of his abilities after he discovered dragon fire. So all his feats of "easily" (only aang beatss him "easily" when he's at full health but whatever) don't matter as they were alays a result of his recklessness.
Firelord zuko contends (although gets consistently beaten but puts up a hell of a fight) with azula once she overcomes her mental illness, that azula being even stronger than before and having access to wild lightning bending feats.
Zuko is a better martial artist than mako, being able to take on many skilled benders with only his swords. Zuko was taught true firebending which allowed him to in the span of days, at most weeks, go from getting recked by azula to stalemating with her on the airship. He also showed way more control over his bending than mako, sustaining fire for hours while walking and climbing, and using his breathe to retain his firebending in an area specifically made to prevent firebending. Those are all skills that mako is not shown to have and prove zuko's more advanced level.
I'd also like you to point out one time where mako redirected lightningbending. The only time I could find is when he redirects the electricity from the mech. Electricity that very obviously is not on the same level as the lethal lightning zuko is used to given that mako survived it without any injury despite only starting to redirect it later.
Mako is a very proficient athlete, but when it comes to a real fight, he gets constantly overpowered by his opponents, only ahcieving victory by using his environment (against ming hua) or in an extreme pinch (against amon's follower's mech). He is also shown to get quickly overwhelmed by an opponent with non bender skills and weaponry such as amon's followers. He is very resourceful for sure, but he doesn't hold up against zuko
@@docomega7862
I brought up the fact that mako can redirect lightning in case someone argued that Zuko can redirect Mako’s lightning back at mako.
The reason why I did go in depth with their ability is because that is very arbitrary, both are on the same tier.
Zuko is a better martial artist yes, but mako is very agile and good at using his environment to his advantage.
Zuko is also a better martial artist than Azula. That never seemed useful against her.
I don’t see how walking and climbing for hours while sustaining fire would help him.
Mako was never shown/portrayed to not be in control of his fire. I’m sure if the plot needed him to sustain fire he would have too.
Part of Zuko’s arc was perfecting his bending because is wasn’t perfect to begin with.
We never saw Azula improving her bending abilities cause she didn’t need to, she was an excellent bender already and so was Mako.
If there was a fire bending scale from
Novice
Advanced
Competent
Proficient
Expert
mako, Azula and Zuko would all be expert.
Who wins depends on mostly plot....
but still a great advantage.
Mako and Azula are very agile but Zuko can keep up with them
Zuko is an excellent martial artist but Azula and Mako can also hold their own against sword user (using swords in not rare).
the only *clear* advantage is lightning bending.
@@harrolddjani Zuko and Iroh glazers who has a massive hard on for them all have the same false notion that learning from dragons = god level firebenders.
Guys it easy of course zuko hh how you can compare zuko with another fire bender exept iroh and ozai he even destroyed azula😮
I mean If both of them are in their prime, they’re both good in their own right, but this is like comparing a martial arts master to a pro boxer. Not only does Zuko Win this fight, it’s not even close…
bravo .For like a better expression fire. 😂😂😂😂😊
Mako is good at lightning bending but its useless to zuko ❤❤
Did they really call uncle iro this guy
Now do Bolin vs Toph
Okay
The reason he didn’t knock him out is because he was controlled by Amon using blood bending
Can you do
Kuvira vs tenzin
Pli vs azula
Ghazan vs king Bumi
Unalaq vs suyin
Okay
Bumi would clap Ghazan
Kuvira
Pl'i
Bumi
Unalaq
@@LuisGustavoSOGhazan can lava bend. it would be over for Bumi real quick
kuvira, azula, ghazan (lava bending), unalaq (blood bending)
The fact that when aang was struck by azulas lightning he died and only was heald using spirit water and only woke up after 2 weeks but when zuko was shot katara used regular water to heal him and he woke up after a few days
Zuko WINS hands down. True fighter from day one
Everyone can have opinions but quite frankly Zuko completely washes him he’s the fire lord for a reason chosen by the dragons and has the skills of each element this is clear that Zuko is far superior
the dragons firebendinf provided no buff at all. it’s just the martial art. i hate this “dragons fire agenda”
Zuzu for me because he found his potiential and is taught by his uncle not to mention found his core with the master dragons but Mako is skilled too and a pro bender and can use lightning and skilled too but compared to Zuko's mastery so for me Zuzu will win this
Durability should go to Zuko, the amount of times the Gaang hit him in S1 should’ve put him down but he ended up still alive and without permanent brain damage.
I will always Give it to the OG character! Zuko take The W!💪🏾
how are we even copmaring them? Zuko survived a lightning from his father when he was a kid. For some background his father is the same guy that killed every air nomad except aang.