Soundcraft Series 1600 mixing console
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2017
- A review of the 1982 Soundcraft Series 1600 mixing console, using effects processors, vocals, and drum machine. Special guest appearances by Jimmy (eighteen-year-old aspiring musician) and Brad (seasoned record producer). And three very special buttons.
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I still use the same mixer...I love the " warm sound " of this console....great to record live drums, guitars and even voices...
Man the work u put show people all this gear is priceless. Thx bro
sensational!!! really impressed with the track at the end. Bravissimo signore!
Great video Paolo. Nice comedic touch and those special buttons are amazing! :) I look forward to the next video. Take care, Sam.
Soundcrafti 1000 and 2000 series - stellar boards - i might even go so far as to say Neve killers. BBC used them a lot too
Thanks for a great video. Got me starting with my console FX send/return here at my studio just now. So lots of cheers from a Summer solstice Sweden!
That was totally amazing man! I really want that board. That built in patch bay is super cool
Great video Paolo. We've got so much in common I have a 32 channel soundcraft ghost with automated recall. I love the sound of the eq and circuitry. I bought it at the time when the mackie desk came out
Really interesting video to start the week. Thanks.
Good to see you back Paolo.
"Home studio"
lol...yeah
Soundcraft desks are pretty affordable.
200B is a good starter and it can be modified into a cool console
yeeeaahhh... Not really your average "home studio" haha
Awesome stuff though
"Project Studio" might be a more fitting description.
Wish I could like this twice man. Thanks for taking the time to put this stuff together. You da man!!!!
PS love the Neil Young, haha
hahahah love it man, this is just the video I needed to see, Ive been seriously considering buying a console for my studio
Very clean set up man. At the moment I have a tiny 12 channel Soundcraft Spirit Folio Rac Pac but I love the sound of the preamps and the overall sound. I also have a tiny telephone patchbay that I have wired to my PC, outboard gear and my mixer. I also just got another Soundcraft 16 channel Spirit Studio for cheap on Craigslist.
Im dying to get one of these to start my own home studio, i am starting my audio engineer schooling next month and want to get my own mixer for my self, also i want to run pro tools with a 24 track reel to reel to get the best of both worlds. awesome video! it was nice to meet jimmy and brad :)
Guys, the Soundcraft 200B are also highly capable and well sounding mixers. Also modular and with different types of channelstrips. In case youre searching for a nice old board for home studio use.
nice desk, nice A/D D/A and really nice vintage FX Rack, too.
nicely done!
FYI: (I have a SoundCraft 12 channel in my rack onstage for my keyboards.)
thank you for the video Paolo!
awesome video!
Funny and informative Paolo! Now we want to know the secrets of the RED button 😎
I love that deep house track
Nice console! 👽👍
Loved this, especially the jam you did with the faders in realtime. *That* is improv. I thought the buttons at the end were going to do nothing, because I know of engineers who've set up dead channels for clients to ride.
wow, this first reverb sounded awesome :D
This is hilarious! Great console. I demoed one a few years ago. We settled on a Trident 24 for our studio though. The 1600 we demoed was not in the shape yours is.
That is the funniest thumbnail ever that made my day better thanks synth mania
you get a thumb up for wearing disguises! i'd give you another thumb up for doing a soundcraft vintage mixer review/overview. marvelous!
Very good info. Thank you.
sensacional equipamento de excelente qualidade
Very informative (and funny) video. Amazing how technology has advanced since the 80s to have a home studio as big as the Soundcraft series, and nowadays you can have an entire studio running in your hard drive. It's mind boggling if you think about it.
I agree with you. Personally I wouldn't throw anything away that still can be put to good use for ones craft. Me, I never had the pleasure to experience recording/mixing with a physical mixing console. My first experience was on DAWs and it took me a long time to get the hang of it.
I use Reason for my material. How about you?
R.E.D. how can you live without vst support??
An honest question. I haven't been using VSTs since I first used FL Studio. Reason now has VST support, so if I ever do upgrade, I am considering using VST again. I have been listening to some demos of some VSTs and IMPO the sound has improved throughout the years.
thank you so much my friend for this video.
Thank *you for watching!! :)
Thanks for sharing this
Very interesting, I always presumed it was a inline console. I have a Soundcraft K3, whilst it's a "live sound" board and doesn't have the tape return channels it's got a great EQ and some other nice handy bits. Just got a load of spare modules for it as back up recently. It's high times for us as boards are unpopular at the moment = affordable :D
I never clicked on anything faster
new gaming mouse?
"Dude i still don't unterstand how does this works man" :D :D
No, very informating and you worked this video very good out
Brad and Jimmy, haha.
Nice desk I'm jealous
Exelente¡¡¡¡¡saludos desde Uruguay¡¡
Thanks a lot!!!
great. you good dude
Nice House
8:28 I'm dying :D that was so great & unexpected
The Red Button, I want it😂
Hey thank you for this amazing video! I have same board. I had been using the Input Channels section of patchbay to go out to my digital recording interfaces (apogee ensembles)...ive been using line in and out there or send/return and everything was working pretty good. Well I finally got some elco snakes made to send signal from the 3 elcos under the board directly to my digital recorders...can I ask you: is this supposed to be automatic? I have the snakes plugged under the board and patched into recorders and I get no signal...is there some other step? Appreciate your thoughts if you have any. Thanks
If the elco pinout is soldered correctly, it should be "automatic". However this is the group/bus out, not channel line out, so you need to push the gorup faders up..
Are you a mix engineer? You have so much awesome gear.
This'll be good.
Great video thanks! Also your track at the end is so cool. Is it available anywhere?
My old Soundtracs mrx mixertable was very close with this mixer in functions and look . Only it did not have the vu meters only leds . The patchbay matrix router was with small telephone centre patch cables .
Gotta get my hands on one of those super secret things.
Sound sooo cooolll!!! Where is the console Noise?????? Does soundcraft venue theater has same design??????
It sounds great! Do you have the full song?
The ''BETTER'' button sounded better to me :) !
Reminds me on the group Change, BBQ a.s.o. 💭👍
Great video. "All these chanels are exactly the same" :) Nice console anyway.
Where do you keep all those synths and equipment? :)
those things always seem very intimidating to me
WOOOOOOOOOOOW
this was cool
You did the song at 42:33 before with a juno and m1 right? Is the full version available? Love it!
Yes, thank you, it's coming
Having a set of fantastic ears helps a lot. I could probably reveal your secret sauce because I use something very similar in my rack. I'm not going to because that would be mean to an extend I'm not comfortable with. We each have our unique sound right? Groups like Infected Mushroom, Orbital, and JunkieXL are some of my favorites. In fact Technologique Park by Orbital off their Blue album is one of my all time favorite tracks. So much so that I have a vinyl pressing of that record. With that, there's a lot to be said for the validity of VST plugins in DAW software but it doesn't really match the richness of old analog gear like what you have there because it's just too rigid in it's function on the digital side of things. I have a model of the ARP2600 which is nowhere near as good as the real thing but still produces reasonably decent sound. I'd just about kill for a Juno-60... Anyway, great stuff man. I hope you're able to continue putting these videos out for a long time into the future. I do sincerely enjoy them.
u want to have ur reverb effects aux post fader so when make the signal more quiet, the reverb also gets more quiet.
that hat dude
What will be if keep engaged all three buttons?
Love the song,where can i get it
Nice setup! What would you recommend these days for an analogue 24 channel (or close) analogue studio desk on a budget?
What is your max budget?
@@SynthManiaDotCom :-D around $1000usd, im based in New Zealand but have been looking at mackie 24-8 from 1995 they look perfect and I can pick one up for under 400usd
Those Mackie 24-8 and 32-8 were very popular in the '90s and early '00s. I remember seeing them often in budget recording studios, even in New York city. Keep in mind their preamps and EQs are perhaps not as "refined" as the previous mixers of the '80s, which you can find for 1-2k , but they are not bad at all.
@@SynthManiaDotCom I ended up with a 32 channel mackie for about 400 bucks 😁 should be fun, thanks for the info 🙏
The last part of the video and the super secret compressor sound like the Rupert Neve MBP
Wow! I guess you could say that I have the tiny, tiny, tiny.. malnourished baby off spring.
I have the "SPIRIT BY SOUNDCRAFT" FOLIO LITE!. Bought in the early 90's. 12 channel mixer with some nice features. I would like to upload a photo to your youtube channel.
Have you ever used the 17-24 monitor returns for monitoring the aux FX instead of using 2 channels on the board during mixdown?
I have - but keep in mind that if you use the 17-24 monitor returns, you can't record them, it's for monitoring only. If you want to record the FX, you have to use any of the 24 main channels on the board.
@@SynthManiaDotCom Will they show up in main mix mixing down to 2 track using the a,b, or c mix out? Wondering if I can save on track count in a final mix to 2 track. Should have my 1600 running soon, just curious. Your video has helped me understand so much, thank you!
As long as you send the effects returns to any of the main 24 input channels, they will go to the A, B, C outs
I really wanna see you demo that AMS
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lol nevermind :P... BTW, have your ever considered getting a RMX 16?
hi jimmy and brad, will you unfold the HIT processing chain? please, or somthing similar. so fucking beautiful.
IIRC it was a silly joke by which the volume got slightly louder on each of the "magic buttons"
I recently got a Soundcraft Spirit Studio for free from 1991.
Paolo, I noticed something - there is no padding on the walls at all. Is the studio still work in progress? Will you make a video of importance of acoustics at some point? Many produces say that most important things in studio are acoustics and studio monitors, then comes the rest. How do you think of this?
Fisher Sam Fisher The most important is your own creativity, then comes the rest.
Where can we buy the end track? I prefer it with white button. :o)
Don, thank you! Yes, that track will be coming out soon.... on vinyl hopefully
Hey Paolo, does Soundcraft sell this super secret module as a 19 Inch standalone device😄?
Edac system. Wow was use a lot on patchay and big snake on live sound.
Is this mixer recaped? ...would be interested to know ;)
...thanks
That Brad guy looks familiar.
Tell me, how did that work out to have one effect channel (e.g. of the SPX) going to several instrument channels from the TR?!
The typical way (same as I have it in this video) is to use (an) auxiliary send(s) (often shortened to aux send) on each of the TR channels, going to the channel(s) where your FX (like the SPX) is routed to. For more information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aux-send
SynthMania Yes, but given that the SPX got one input and one output, how are you able to have the reverb effect on multiple instruments, isolated?
The other way around. The SPX return is fixed on two channels L & R, and they don't change. It's the individual sounds of the 909 that are fed to the input of the SPX via the aux sends. If you leave the aux send knob all the way to the left, you only have the dry signal from each 909 channel. If you open the aux send knob towards the right, an auxiliary send "copy" of the signal will be fed to the SPX input and you will hear more of the 909 signal going into the FX, and thus more effect on each 909 sound the more you turn the aux send knob clockwise. Then you can further tweak the balances by moving the actual faders of the dry signal(s) vs the FX signal(s)
So, what happened if all special buttons will be pressed together?
Synthmania how is that SSL AX? Are you able to track all 24 ins at low buffer sizes?
It's good. You're talking about a $4.5K system (3K for the interface an 1.5K for the card when I bought them years ago). On my system, I use 128 buffer samples, and get 2.9ms at 44.1KHz / 24 bit , no strain at all, even with more than 24 channels on tracking and mixing. At 64 samples buffer I can get 1.5ms and it's still solid, even though I don't need that much low latency as I mostly use hardware, 2.9 is fine for my needs.
wow!!!!! I'm getting rid of firewire interfaces that are daisy chained because they seem to bottleneck even with an added pcie fw card, I have to run my session at minimum 256 buffer, I just spotted the SSL locally for 1200 with the pcie card :-) what OS are you using..ie is it a 64 bit OS ?
Yes, currently using it on a Windows 10 64-bit. I've previously also used the SSL on Windows 7 64-bit, and Apple OS 9 and X, and of course it works great on those too. FYI, the SSL driver for these interfaces installs easier on Mac OS (no effort at all). On Windows OS, it *might fight a little bit, where you have to install the driver a couple of times before it recognizes it, but after it recognizes the unit, it works perfectly on Windows too - just use the driver ver. 6.2 if you're on Windows
thank you..I plan on running it in El Capitan
where's the JAM BUTTON?!?!!
Always push the RED button :)
OH MY GOD. i'm dying this is hilarious.
The preview made me click ^^
I get nothing from the aux send knobs how do you route the aux sends to and from a delay or reverb?
Not enough information to help you. How are you set up? Describe in extreme detail how you are set up, and what you are doing. A drawing with all the connections to/from your mixer will be the best to understand what you're doing.
@@SynthManiaDotCom My board is just like yours. I have a 16 channel snake from my tracking room to the first 16 mic inputs on the back. I have all 24 Tape Track send/recieves on the patchbay going i/o to a Motu 828es interface with Behringer ADAT extensions via thunderbolt into a Mac mini running Reaper. All my compressors and EQs work fine patched into the FX patchbay using the channel inserts. I can't get any of my revebs or delays to work on the aux sends, I've tried using the XLR sends on the botton to the inputs of the delays and reverbs, and I've tried patching from the aux 1-8 on the patchbay with the outboard gear on FX send recieves and running returns to line in on the patchbay for channels 17-24. I dont get any signal being sent on the sends when I turn the green and blue aux send knobs from the channel strips 1-16. Not sure what I'm routing wrong. I have a Lexicon Alex, Lexicon MX200, TC GMajor2, an Ibanez HD1000, Ibanez DM1000, an Effectron III, and a Lexicon Primetime Delay (that I need to repair but would love to use). Can't get signal into any of then using the aux.
First thing: you haven't mentioned that you are connected to the FX Sends and Returns. Are you? If you are not, you're never going to get it to work, you need cables connected to them. There are five sets of ELCO/EDAC connectors on the underside of the mixer: three (thinner connectors) go to the multi-track recorder and two (thicker connectors) go to the FX. Do you have cables connected to the ones that go to the FX? You have to use the ELCO/EDAC connectors on the bottom of the unit to use it, for both the multi-track recording, and for the effects. Then, use the built-in patchbay to route signals.
@@SynthManiaDotCom Yes, I have 2 ELCO/EDAC for the recorder send/returns, and mine has been converted to 4 banks of DB25 connectors for FX 1-32. So I should use the patchbay only to route and not use the 8 XLR aux sends on the bottom? What do I need to route on the patchbayvia TT bantam cables and what do I need to turn up on the board? Do I need to have all the Aux knobs on the aux strip above the ocsilator turned all the way up as well? Thanks for the help and patience.
Yes, you need to use TT bantam patch cords. If - say - you want to run an effect from channel 1: go to the patch bay section on your mixer, put a TT cord on the Input Channels #1 Line Out to your desired Effect, for example connect it to the Effects "SND" 1. Take another TT cord and go from the "RET" to your desired "AUX" input. Then open up the aux individual and master knobs to adjust for optimal signal into your reverb/delays etc. If you have stereo input effects, just use two sends & returns, and pan the returns left and right. Keep in mind that if you use the "AUX" inputs for the returns, you'll be able to listen to the FX, but not record them. So it's best if you return the FX to other unused channels on the mixer - for example, instead of returning them to AUX 1 and AUX 2, you should return them to - say - input channels 23 and 24, so you can record them, pan them, EQ them etc. To do that, simply use the TT cable to go from Effects "RET" to the insert ret of an unused channel(s).
This console is bigger than my studio :-/
43:15 it's being disengaged haha
Link for the song?
soundcraft ♥ oh why did i sell mine :'(
What happens if you push "Good", "Better" and "Hit" simultanously? :-D :-D
Whose is this female vocal in "Close to me"?
They are vocals from an old sample cd
Easy to master..... :D :D :D.....Got Lost Here.... :D :D :D....
...Just playing around with a DAW has been enough of an....exercise/headache....for me at least......The final result that we hear here is ear candy though... :D :D :D :D
haha......u just get better 💪💪🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒👌
Could someone please show Paolo how to white balance his camera....? PLEASE, it hurts my eyes!!! - Love you video's Paolo x
I actually know how to do custom white balance. Two problems: 1. the current lighting in my studio still sucks; and 2. after spending six hours to make this 45-min video, the last thing I want to do is to spend additional time in the video editor to make the colors and the lights pretty. I mean, this is a music channel, not the set of Ben Hur. However, note taken, I'll try to fix the bad lighting in my studio.
SynthMania Haha, fair enough bud! Content first x
"Bypass everything under 100k"...
In other words everything you recorded?
(Yes I know, you misspoke...)
my friend synthmania - forever super star of italo disco and youtube
8:06
:D :D :D
HI hi i have 2 tape decks 760 line i never seen the mixer for sell in the uk i do know mate
like to take them apart and sell the channel of one at a time the deck you have cost alot of money used now
love the otari mx80 i will say the 760 decks are better to keep going the remote do die over time
there is ways around this to
In 1982, one could buy a decent house for $22000
Will not fit in my "studio" ... ;-)
how to count in 2017: 1,2,24
where do u have the money for all that gear? are u an italian mafioso and washing money??? :P ;)