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When Doom is pointing out you're committing war crimes...maybe stop and reflect for a moment.
Amen.
I am surprised Doom didn’t dismantle this organisation to prevent genocide.
Even Dr. Doom knew Bastion went too far
@mitchjames9350 Doom had other priorities. But looking back it wouldn't have hurt to send a text.
Doom doesn’t commit war crimes that’s why his diplomatic immunity keeps up he is just a trouble maker lol
Every time someone tries to win a war before it starts, innocent people die, every time.
- Steve Rogers (Captain America)
Like Iraque and Afeganistão?
@@cristianorodriguessilva5451yes
@@cristianorodriguessilva5451I was literally going to say Steve Roger's was right.
@@dreamwalker2865About what?
Don't want to argue with Captain America, but don't innocent people also die when you try to win a war after it starts?
“Because when you don’t have skin in the game, apathy’s your answer.”
My god, it’s terrifying how real that is; how can you process the death of tens of thousands of people? You can’t, so our impulse is to ignore the problem, turn off your brains empathy and compassion to prevent being overwhelmed, especially when the casualties in question are from a group you’re biased against anyway. He took the tragedy of one mutant death, and made thousands more to make it a mere statistic.
Just like with Israel and Palestine oh wait too serious to say that? 😳
True I don't give a shit about Israel or Palestine
Ironically, a lot of people who cried during Episode 5’s genocide of Genosha probably shrugged or got annoyed when confronted with an actual on-going real life genocide afterwards.
@@Howard-Hamlin-from-HHMwhewww 😮💨🔥 don’t hurt em
To be fair that's a lot of things people do, I mean how do you handle feeling helpless? You just ignore the problem and hope it gets solved.
Baron Zemo AND Doctor Doom!
Holy shit this show is just getting better and better
@nicktroisi6347 were they both the EMH voice actors?
Spider-Man from the 90s and the Silver Samurai. I could be wrong but we haven’t seen Silver Samurai in the og series
@@T0X1C_Demonhe was on the original series for one episode, The Lotus & the Steel, season 4.
@@T0X1C_Demonhe was in the original series when Logan when to japan for some spiritual guidance
@@derekbartonart7004 damn I forgot that, thanks
Bastion really knows how to sell a pitch. Human extinction in the future and yet he does not acknowledge that mutants are just humans with powers
He does acknowledge it remember what master mold said to Kelly Mutants are Humans.
That’s what makes the concern kinda silly to me…but realistic.
You’re not a mutant. But your grandkids will be. It’s not like your family is being eliminated.
Human worried about extinction: Oh no! My granddaughter will be able to fly! That makes me furious…for some reason!
DC Universe had the right idea when they just called them “meta-humans” instead. Emphasizes they’re human, while being just a bit extra.
He acknowledged but the thing is not all humans will have mutant kids.
Eventually the humans will be transformed in second class citizens. That happened in House of M.
Mutants would vehemently disagree with the notion they'e mere humans.
And, given their competency and abilities, they would be pretty much tight.
So these people are so terrified of being replaced by mutants that they signed up with robots… who replaced them 🤦
🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Yeah, humanity in Marvel has a tendency to be short-sighted...
@@johnnygyro2295 Just like in real life
@@johnnygyro2295humanity in reality as well!
Considering all the right wing/anti woke grifters who unironically shill for AI just so they don’t have people of different background have work in the entertainment industry, this is suprisingly accurate that I don’t think the people who made this show intended it to be
The fact that it's called "operation zero tolerance" is so 90s and I love it
That's because the show is adapting a 90s storyline from the comics.
@@johnnygyro2295not just a 90s story. It's _the_ 1997 comic event for X-Men.
They did there research
Magnus has no business being that thick
Bastion "I omit the more technical details".
Translation: he waxes lyrical about making the future better while robbing all humanity from people and turning them into machines.
He probably used white ink to write the details on the white paper contract
Allow me to respond in a way I believe Bastion would: "Bingo!"
Hey there's no reason to cry about it buddy. Just admit this plan is flawless and Bastion is just 12 parallel steps ahead of the X-Men in every form.🤷🤷 They still get to live their life without no collection of being a machine pretty much until a fight or flight response happen, sounds like a good offer if you ask me. 🤷
@@KadenHartley shut up robot 🤖
Yeah. In the comics, he secretly infect hospital patients with nanotech.
I doubt X-men 97' version of Bastion was any nicer.
Love Bastion's flippancy about all this. Sells the idea he couldn't care less about any of these people, they're just a means to an end
But that's what they always are in the end. The right saw trump and maga as a means to an end only to find out the rabid dog will bite you if you give it time
that's..not EXACTLY true. he's not planning to convert the whole populace... he has the same problem the master AI from the movie version of I Robot had: kill 25% of the population to save 75% is just good math in his book. remember that in the future cable describes, Earth is a Utopia for humans..not a dystopia like days of Future past. Of course it SUCKS if you're a mutant...but again..that's not his problem. Point of fact...Nimrod's original programming actually had him HELPING humans and even adopting a human identity. There's a recent storyline..during the "No more mutants" phase if i remember correctly" where Bastion actually offers to HELP the Xmen...after all he wouldn't need to cull the population for GENERATIONS by his calculations. the prime directive is kill or CONTAIN all mutants" after all..he has leeway. He is of course turned down. Now yes, the most recent version of Nimrod is different from the original, and is part of some grand AI takeover...but it's literally a different timeline and a different character. Bastion meant well...within the limits of Sentinel programming.
this is also highlighted in the Juston Seifert "freindly" sentinel..where the Prime Directive can't be removed..so the kid buries it under DOZENS of directives that basicly turn it into the Iron Giant. prime directive "never abandon Juston." secondary directive" 'protect Juston." "tertiary "protect self" etc. there's a really awesome storyline where Emma frost, invested with the power of the Phoenix, casually waltzes into Avengers academy compound as part of her quest to destroy every sentinel on the planet. Emma, who has NEVER been an empathic person, and has been even less so since she mind raped a sociopathic telepath who was less powerful but more experienced than her so she could STRAL that experience(yes it's canon, look it up) became even MORE emotionally distant after being invested with the Phoenix force. She shows up, and the Sentinel PANICS..it recognizes the Phoenix AND Frost, and as far as it's concern, Juston shouldn't be anywere NEAR her. So like an overexcited guard dog..he protects Juston by attacking. the fight does not go well. During the fight Juston in injured, and the Sentinel is on it's last legs...Juston is BEGGING it to flee but Frost hs NO intention of stopping, and the sentinel knows this. so it overrides it's own prime directive and throws itself at frost to protect Juston. it is prommptly destroyed, though Quicksilver winds up salvaging it's AI core via some sleight of hand and they rebuild it after frost leaves. it's a sweet story.
@@alexsolomon8127 You love to hear yourself talk in real life and it shows.
@@EmptyMan000 aww...wassa matta....can't articulate an opinion yourself?
He's an idiot lol. Marvel has too much crap. Where's Apocalypse? High evo, etc.
1:14 Mister Sinister looks so happy doing sinister things xD
"Best job ever" Although shouldn't he be against turning people into machines? His goal was to create perfect organism.
@@metal87powerbasically that orochimaru stuff
@@metal87powerIirc the Prim Sentinels use the same virus that Mr Sinister use on Cable. So organism is probably a big part in that experiment
@@metal87power well technically it fit perfectly into his vision. Human-machince hybrids can lead to perfect organism (borg for example)
@@metal87power Maybe he worked out a deal where sinister gets the savage lands and creates mutates there.
"Do not mistake Doom's collusion as indifference to flagrant war crimes."
Victor... collusion is active SUPPORT. You're not indifferent, you're actively supporting, and helping war crimes.
So what he said is true. It shouldn't be mistaken as indifference.
Tbh, I don't think he knew Genosha would be destroyed like that.
It would have been nice to see a clip of him helping stop the Sentinels later. This version of Doom is not a purely evil character…which is how Doom should be portrayed.
@@MrLee-cy1pw "like that".
1:32 A reference to X-Men The Animated Series' episode of Colossus working as a demolition guy with his powers which got the human workers peeved at him.
They took our jobs!
I remember that episode. I only saw it once, in elementary school, but he got arrested for trying to help.
@@227someguyNo he got arrested for being accused on demotioning a bank.
Man, it really pains me to see when bad guys do stuff like this. “The only way to fight the increasing “non-human” threat is to modify humans and make them non-human too.” People don’t understand that in a world like this that it’s easier to just change the definition of what it means to be “human”.
Allegory. I think...that's the point. The solution exists for its own sake, much in the same way its creators did and as the personification of "self defense," Bastion's reasoning lacks empathy or attachment to anything but the perpetuation of an objective.
After watching My Hero Academia where that kinda future has happened the fear does make sense. Mutants becoming exponentially more powerful every passing generation, regular human and people whose mutations make them look inhuman being discriminated against, it does cause real but different problems in society.
That's evolution my dude. As time passes, the species with the greater advantages lives on while the weaker ones die out.
@@conscientiousobjector5988 considering what he is. that's bastion's flaw. he lacks that form of lateral thinking and is being simplistic about it.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 those who are fittest to their enviroment lives on, while the one who are not dies out. For example in an enviroment where food is scarce, all the kids with naturally big muscles die out, leaving the scrawny and small kids who need less energy therefore less food to populate the entire human race turning it into a slender and small population. Not the strongest, but the ones where their mutation make them less likely a victim to their enviroment before they reach sexual maturity.
“Teleporter gets you there in a _blink.”_
I see what the writers did there!
What is it?
Its a reference to Blink, who is a powerful teleporter.
Or…a bamf.
@@jonharrison9222Blinking makes bamfing look like crossing the street. Blink can teleport entire teams with ease.
I like Bastion's reference to dial up internet. So late 1990's...
Doom: "Hey, just because I'm backing you, doesn't mean I'm not judging you."
I wonder what he has to gain here
I like to think Bastion played to Vic's ego. Promised him a future where Doom is remembered as the great hero who saved mankind.
@@jordanloux3883 Oh true. It must be the promise of a Utopia that Cable explained during the X-Men briefing
@@jordanloux3883HOLY SHIT🤯🤯🤯
@@jordanloux3883I feel like Doom will see through Bastions lies
My guess is Doom plans to use the Prime Sentinel designs to improve his own Doombots
0:47 The look of guilt from Val Cooper who later released Magneto.
She does realized what she got herself into and set things right.
@@phantomthiefjoker939 Yep. She got to see Bastion IS the asteroid and what he was doing was monstrous.
She better than me cus I’d done shat on myself while he in his little monologue
Bastion may be a homicidal madman. But he sounds more like a used car salesman with the sale pitch.
He'd have to to get Victor Von Doom, the son of Romani, to basically take part in the kind of pogrom that killed his mother.
such as he is, he's both a Mortal Man, and an A.I/Robot being, hence the dichotomy, he's only evil and hates mutants because he literally has to, due to programming that cannot be subverted.
2:22
Ultron: when earth starts to settle god throw a stone at it, and believe me he is winding up
Did someone say this in the show?
@@T0X1C_Demon no but well with all this allegory with asteroids I thought why not make this cit
It would be a laugh if Ultron was involved in that meeting.
@@TempestGhost why do you laugh on that?
So humanity is so scared of being replaced by mutants that they give more and more powers to sentinels….who then plan to replace humanity 🤦
Finally, Doom actually has an accent that sounds like he’s from Latveria in a modern project. Why can’t we have a good movie with him in it?!
Voiced by Ross Marquand (Red Skull in Infinity War, Endgame and What if, Ultron in What if and Multiverse of Madness and Xavier in '97).
And about the lack of an accurated Doom in movies... the sake of "realism" ? x'D hence why the previous movie made him go with the quartet to get the powers
I was blowing my load too much to realize that Doctor Doom was saying he doesnt accept just violence for the sake of violence and bastion should be weary of that. Which is fucking awesome
Doom expected that his homo superior could handle one giant robot.
After watching this episode, Bastion has quickly become one of my favourite X-Men villains. Bastion is such a great villain so far in this show, and his plan is genius yet horrific to think about. Him being a mix of Nimrod & Master Mold is wild. I love how charismatic he is with his belief that mutants supposedly take away humans' chances of the future like a twisted charismatic entrepreneur/salesman pitching his belief onto your average human middle class guy spreading more fear and insecurities about mutants to inevitably get them to act on saod fears. What's even worse is that there is a level of truth and meta-commentary from his philosophy and how he manipulates blue-collar class racism and bigotry normal humans create based on their fears. Not to mention the fact that such a big part of the population are secretly Human Sentinel sleeper agents and didn't even know it is SCARY ASF! These things can also reproduce and extend the human population, making the implications even more terrifying.
Funny how Gyrich was teasing this fate in the first episode when he said, *"Tolerance is extinction"* , basically meaning that whenever humanity starts tolerating mutants, humans will inevitably believe they'll go extinct, therefore believing whenever mutants start tolerating humans, mutants need to go extinct, hence what happened in Genosha.
I also appreciate that Doom was against Bastions actions of genocide against Genosha, despite his apparent involvement with Bastions plans. It pretty in character for Doom, since he to was persecuted and had to watch his people be hunted down since he came from a Romanian family.
This episode was a chef kiss, Scott and Cable family reunion, Baron Zemo, Dr. Doom, Juggernaut Morph, Nightcrawler with three swords, Sunspot revelation, Wolverine playing tetris with the cyborgs to avoid falling, Jean hold on a very strong shield without fainting while The Summers be attack by the cyborgs, Magneto electromagnetic blast, Spider-Man, Omega Red, and finally Charles is back.
0:48
Mrs Cooper: Why’d you take off his pants?
Bastion: 😒 ..
Mrs Cooper: …Bastion?? Why did you take off his pants??
This is like when Young Justice revealed The Light or Ducktales revealed F.O.W.L.
Nothing builds hype like showing a bunch of awesome villains in collusion.
Very.....!!
Technically this is something that was already done in Marvel Comics before in the form of the story Acts of Vengeance.
Like this show’s season even reference stuff from that comic like the Tri-Sentinal and the whole villains of Marvel Universe teaming up to destroy a team (except in this case its Bastion wanting to destroy the X-Men instead of Loki wanting to destroy the Avengers).
@@BigK13372 or the masters of evil trying to destroy the avengers
At least the good doctor here is smart enough to see and understand bastion is just as much a threat as the mutant issue in her mind maybe even worse when she says he could be the asteroid
After reading up about Prime Sentinels and Bastion, I have to say, it's both awesome and unsettling to finally see them in animated form. The latter feeling is even stronger since I know exactly where this is going to lead. The asteroid indeed...
Baron Zemo & Dr. Doom?
Yeah, The Avengers & Fantastic Four are coming!
Wouldn't count on it, Captain America's appearance was more easter egg than anything
In Season 2 or 3, we'll see. Let's hope they're not going to fight each other.
@@johnsantos507 AvX and uncanny avengers style moments probably on the horizon
@@knuckles543 Oh no. Don't!
We’ll probably get Avengers V X men soon and maybe Onslaught in the next seasons
1:21 "Before today this fellow was your average Joe..."
Said fellow looks suspiciously like Joe Dirt
1:18 Sinister having a great time here, look how happy he is 😄
Hes giving me that Bully Maguire smirk look😂
And i love it *que the black suit Spider-Man theme music 🎶😁
When you love your job, you don't work a day in your life.
I'd be like that too. Smiling constantly at work without a care in the world lol
So Prime Sentinels were racist internet forum users?
... That's somehow the least craziest thing I've heard from this show
Don't know if it's better or worse (?) than the main villains of She-Hulk, a reddit group of trolls/haters using the name of the organization of the most smart villains in the Marvel Universe, Intelligencia.
Bastion's VA is doing a fantastic job!
...I find it hard to believe Doom would go along with this. He's not bigoted against mutants.
And he doesnt want competition.
He cares for mutants the mutants in his country
He may also be keeping an eye on all of this too. Something like Bastion you don't let operate without observation.
@louthegiantcookie Doom is a villain who will do anything as see fit. Tho he probably has a different motive than bigotry
@@mangareader7474 that was only a recent thing
Bastion has to be the most polite and respectful villain in the Marvel universe
nah that was Ex-Nihilo , while he was a villain that is.
1:23 -1:55 this is straight up great replacement theory
Or a satire the people that subscribe to it.
@@jonharrison9222not sure "satire" is the correct word, considering there is nothing comedic or humorous at play here.
It is still a transparent criticism and ridicule of both that theory and people who subscribe to it anyways.
@@maxi1ification
Well said.
That's the point
Freaking hell Dr Doom. Oh my God
Damn Hemlock, Project Necromancer has got you jumpin through different Disney shows.
Bastion is very much like Dr. Hemlock in Star Wars: The Bad Batch, which had a great finale by the way. I can't get over how the two villains are played by different actors despite their similar personalities.
@@TheVeritas1 Oh snap, That's actually news to me. I really thought it was the same guy.
@@normalfellow1113
I also thought they were the same actor.
But, if you look at the end credits of both shows, you see the villains are played by different actors.
I like how bastion uses this fear of mutants to turn people into machines which then gives him control of the human race essentially. This is basically the concept behind the patriot act and the matrix where you give away your own individual freedoms/identity for the sake of security or eliminating your enemy. Problem is you always end up destroying yourself or forfeiting your life in the process. Only winner here is bastion if he succeeds because now he has unilateral control over humans and mutants are gone.
Wow. Excellent argument with Operation Zero Tolerance being like the Patriot Act.
"In a 100 years mutans outnumber humans 10 to 1."
well, if you transform humans into sentinels... i am not surprised
Bingo.
This math is all over place. Mutants were always an small group in the comics version the current number before the No More Mutants spell was around 300. This before 17 million kill in Genohsa.
Dr. Victor Von Doom and Baron Zemo!
Crazy part is Bastion is referencing the original series events here with the beef about construction workers (1:33 Colossus) and Teleporters (1:37 Nightcrawler and Blink). These were concerns actually brought up in the series by humans who had beef with mutants making their jobs worthless. It's actually valid to worry about being left behind and abandoned just because someone gets born with gifts you won't ever have.
To be fair? That's how real life is right now. Athletes, who are genetically more capable than most other people. Brilliant scientists whose brains are literally built different. Rich kids born to billionaires. Instead of realizing that the very structure of our society is designed to be unfair, it's so much easier for our rulers to point fingers at a scapegoated people.
@@DreamersOfReality artificial intelligence
@@DreamersOfReality Difference is those examples are exceptional cases that come now and again, imagine a whole race of people with such gifts that render the average joe obsolete. That's a very pressing concern.
return of this universes Dr Doom and first appearance of Baron Zemo
Actually Baron Zemo appears in this universe in Avengers: United They Stand
@@cyclownus3658 that shows is not in continuity with X-Men and Spider-Man TAS
You know your the main villian when Dr. Doom calls you out!
Being a mutant in that world, along with people like Doom, Baron Zemo, the US government, bro, I can't imagine the hell.
0:31 Baron Zemo with his EMH character design, nice.
Imagine if they make emh canon to this lol
That’s his classic design, dude.
@@azuresaiyan9005But with his voice style.
@@mayotango1317I think EMH Zemo had a stronger accent
That wouldn’t work, I’ll just chalk it up to similar character designs
1:38 It's not like Prime Sentinels can use their rocket feet to fly around and not use transportation or something.
Dr. Doom and Zemo! Daaamn!!! I'm loving this show far more so.
Bastion is right about humanity not handling too much guilt at once. It hurts too much to bare, that they would seek a coping mechanisms in any way. Apathy or joining something they aren't given the full details about. Now, who was the woman on the monitor, cause it didn't look like Trish Tilby?
Sinister sounded scared of magneto release. I’m wondering if he’s been affected by bastion or cloned as Jean was
I think Sinister is just acting. Operation: Zero Tolerance is completely contrary to his normal goals- he's normally at the opposite extreme of being so pro-mutant that he's trying to breed them. He's playing Bastion for a fool.
I don't think Bastion is bothered by Magneto escaping either- probably plays right into his hands if a terrifyingly powerful mutant declares war on the entire human race for something Bastion did.
@@jonathancampbell5231 It's the perfect excuse to have built as many human sentinels as he likes.
Godamn I missed a good scheming mastermind villain. Those are so rare these days.
@@jonathancampbell5231but here's the thing. Sinister has never been a "mutant supremacist" as a specific concept. He is more broadly a "FOR SCIENCE!" evil type of guy, and mutants and their potential tend to be his favorite topic of study and experimentation, seeing them as a "next step of evolution". He breeds mutants because he wants to create better and more powerful mutants because it fulfills his vision, but that DOESN'T mean he is a mutant rights advocate or a mutant ally, specially considering his eugenics program that would give even nazis pause.
In fact, the ONE line he does not seem to cross is promoting mass omnicide, considering he turned on Apocalypse for that. But other than that? Anything is fair game as long as it furthers his experiments.
Bastion does not seek to eliminate the mutants, but to elevate the "normal" humans above them and keep the mutants around as labor after that, which affords Sinister plenty of space to experiment, both on human potential as Prime Sentinels AND on whatever mutants come afterwards.
@@jonathancampbell5231 He isn't naive. Magneto is very powerful. He can back up his talk and perfectly willing to execute it.
Zero Tolerance is fine for him because he's not really pro mutant. He's trying to create some perfect specimen(whatever that actually is). He needs cattle to work on. Bastion is giving him that.
Bastion took that asteroid comment literally
I've never seen Bastion this human before. Usually he's more robotic when he's talking (only seen him in X-Force and X-Men Destiny)
When he first appeared, he presented as a politician pushing an anti-mutant crusade. It was only after that story (and the revelation that he was a Sentinel) that he started becoming more and more robotic.
this show is perfect. so glad they signed on for more seasons after this, hopefully we'll get 15-20 episodes for each
Gotta love the continued trashing of Gyrich.
What he said about mutants surpassing normal people sounds like the future of Boku no Hero Academia... Wonder how people like Charles, Magneto and Bastion would react to that universe where mutants are more numerous than baseline humans...
I dont mind getting teleported to work. If we are ok with uber taking over taxis then for sure we would embrace mutant transport too.
You would if you we're a taxi driver, I'm also sure artists feel the same about A.I
I forgot he’s voiced by Theo James. This character fits him so well!
It sounds like he doesn't tell them everything because they would likely say no.
Pretty sure the conference call with Zemo and friggin DOOM was homegirl's Akatsuki moment where she went "This world needs to know pain"
Fo those who might be confused by Dr. Doom's contempt for Bastion's actions, his prejudice towards mutants isn't the run of the mill bigotry or fear; his prejudice towards them is hinted to be based more on contempt for what they represent. Note, Doom is a completely self-made man; everything he has he got for himself through study, training, and effort. The idea of someone being simply born with powers (and then styling themself as superior to others for it), is thus DEEPLY insulting to a man like him. But in his eyes, the solution is elevating humanity, not wiping out mutants.
In other words, he only colluded with Bastion to take out Magneto and witness the Sentinel tech.
I do love how the different villains are planning to betray each other. MR sinister might as well.be saying that in the garden of betrayal.
Also I have a theory that that bald woman is a ravonna variant
Interesting theory about the bald woman. Immortus did appear in X-Men TAS so that's not out of the realm of possibility.
So is that supposed to be Zemo Sr. or Zemo Jr.? I know it's Jr.'s costume but we already saw Sr. wearing it in Avengers EMH.
0:26 Bastion: I know you're going to betray me, but mutants first, then you.
0:40 Valerie Cooper.
It’s crazy the level of hatred ppl had for mutants in this world when before they display powers they’re no differ but once they do their just not human anymore
that's normal
a reaction to sudden change and unable to understand or cope with said change
and often aided by a predisposition to resist any and all change just for the sake of it, or due to a hatred of anyone different
like if a daughter suddenly became liquid metal, or suddenly overnight a brother developed dragon features like wings and claws, or a friend became dangerous to be around due to an aura that drained your emotion or energy
some people in the marvel universe (a group named the purifiers) blew up a schoolbus of kids leaving xavier's school becuase they were mutants, prior to scarlet witch's mental breakdown and her power eliminating the X-gene in all but 10% of the mutant population (the ''no more mutants'' moment in House of M)
those kids on the bus were no longer mutants; de-powered by Wanda Maximoff, and the purifers did not care, they only saw them to be mutants, where the truth is more ''mutants ARE humans, with a bit extra''
bastion pretty much gave her the corporate protection racket speech
Just because we declare to fight something non-human, doesn't mean we have to lose our humanity. We humans will always have the flaw to judge each other base on smallest of things like color, race, ethnicity, gender, religion, nationality, no matter what and use it to justify our actions no matter if its for something bad or something good.
The irony is that mutants are human, and these people are making themselves LESS human to fight other humans.
Magneto silently listening to World Leaders working with Bastion. No wonder he's had enough
It's ironic that the humans in X-Men want to become cybernetic becoming an Android. Becoming flush with a machine and still want to call themselves human?
0:25 DOCTOR DOOM!!!!!
U finally spelled ALL CAPS when you spelled the man's name🎶😏☕
It's funny in a sick way, because Bastion's describing a universal human behavior. Everyone, without exception, does this.
It's why you don't look at every face you pass on a city sidewalk, or people next to you in an elevator. It's why you can hear about something horrible happening to a group of people a thousand miles away and never think of it again.
It's not callousness, it's your brain filtering out stressful information you think you can't do anything about. And it's the only way anybody ever *functions* . No exceptions.
The only variance is how *much* you do this; whether you're the person horrified to action by mass atrocity, or the one so desperate to avoid feeling bad you turn into one of the worthless trashbags who excuses it. Or anywhere in between.
Bastion's a monster, but he's not *wrong* about this. It's why Magneto's answer to it was to make a problem *nobody* could ignore.
Making a problem that nobody can afford to ignore is, historically, what social movements of any significance accomplished.
Did i just saw a Joe Dirt cameo hete?
You know normally I wouldn't agree with Magneto being right. But when you see all these people in charge of countries together talking about a extermination plan it really puts it into perspective.
Not sure what Sinister is up to. Zero tolerance is ZERO tolerance. So he must have a plan...a wrench ready to be thrown into the gears.
Hmm, Dr. Doom appearance feels future appearance of Fantastic 4 and Franklin Richards. Nice😊
Hey everyone here agrees
That the genetically super powered people are just humans with powers right. Also pretty sure human who can teleport will get real sick of being called 24/7.
Also with people with ten times the strength means you could have those other construction workers do other things. That or just plan larger projects.
One issue with Colossus is, he's got the strength of 10 men but he's still paid like only 1. Basically stronger manpower for cheap. Similar issue to how hiring Chinese or Venezuelan workers was cheaper while performing almost the same...
I enjoyed seeing Joe Dirt here become a prime sentinel.
I do appreciate how good old American Bastion really is, major "they took our jobs" vibes.
looooooooll.. Dr. Doom fantastic four 1994...
Theo James completely slayed this role.
First, he was unnervingly creepy…then, here: he’s so completely at ease & in control, it almost seems normal…
…and when you realize the sheer depths of depravity he’s committing, it makes his passiveness frightening.
…and yet, you get “just” a glimmer of sympathy; when his insanity gets put briefly on pause.
Hector still out and about creating Night Creatures
Human Sentinels very different than usual Robot Sentinels. in terms of size same as X-Men, Power wise they can rival the mutants.
0:19 0:29 Doom and Zemo in glorious animation and not live action.
I....How can any sane person get behind Bastion? And Sinister says that Val Cooper lost her mind.
Interesting that Mr. Sinister is there as I thought he was more into exploring mutant kind with Apocalypse in the original cartoon. But I seem to remember there is a clone of Sinister who is more interested in improving humans over mutants.
If Magneto heard any of that he is going after Doom and every single one of them.
That would end badly for Magneto. Preventing his armor from being affected by Magneto is child's play to Doom.
It’s just like X men Legends on GameCube. Operation Zero Tolerance is like Operation Vigilance: Secret organization turning humans into sentinels!
0:46 is that madame masque or am I stupid
if it's masque it could be a tie-in to madripoor
the screens around them indicate a group, or at least a coaltion of aligned parties and we can't really tell, could be literally anyone
That's Jamie Braddock right there right, or it looks like
Who is the woman on the screen after Zemo speaks?
Great question. If I have to guess... Someone from Shield.
@@jiraiya0698 I assumed it was Helen Cho, but that makes such little sense.
Could it be aim's leader, monica rappacini? Though I don't know when exactly modok lost his hold on the organization.
@@zygas25 Perhaps Valentina, but with a strange accent?
I'm thinking either Monica Rappaccini from AIM or Viper from Hydra.
Theo James is actually really REALLY good as Bastion. He really does a good job of portraying Bastion as the genocidal, sociopathic, manipulative, salesman/entrepreneur from Hell.
I like this Mister Sinister fella
Yeah Marvel just have this running for 3 more seasons
Maan.. how could you exclude zemo from your title? 🤣
2:12 The guy looks very similar to the FOH guy from episode 1.
Bastion did not forsee Uber/Lyft.
With Doctor Doom and the Avengers making appearances i cant help but feel Onslaught is on his way.
The worst part about this is that Bastion knows what he’s doing is evil and doesn’t care one bit. He’s the worst kind of villain: The competent one.
Bastion reminds me a bit like Cecil from invincible as far as running things
0:33 Baron Zemo.
Fooot fooot chargee plasmaa beammm photon arrayyyyy.....FAILURE IS BENEATHH DOOOOMMMMMM
Put myself as a target here: why they always make distinction between human and mutans, as they are not the same species? The x gene, although if may result in severe dismorphism, it's really enough to separate humanity and mutants in a biological sense? Also Bastion is either in bad faith or total denial: how turning humans in dormant setinel preserve humanity in any capacity?
What? cyborgs are better than mutant now?! Lol(not)
from the information I gathered from some of the comic stuff (this might include view of some extremist group, not just Bastion himself) and TLDR version are some human civies fears the mutant because what Magneto did and the probability of latent X-Gene that is too destructive by the time they are activated.
Then this fear get weaponized by extremist and politican, in the name of keeping human civies safe.
As for Bastion, I can't really explain this with spoiler but he is a byproduct of Master Mold and Nimrod merging into a singular being, and got fed with informations of anti mutant propaganda.
hope this help and soz for spoiling some
Come one, humans have created social constructed labels to separate us by skin tone and\or physical appearance. It is not too far fetch that will do the same with those that have the x gene and those that do not.
Bastion is acting in bad faith. In reality, the Sentinels determined that the best way to carry out their programming (eliminating mutants) was to cut mutants off at the source (humanity) by seizing control of the entire planet. Bastion is just taking the next logical step of converting humans into cyborgs so they can't procreate mutants in the first place (with the added bonus of said cyborgs being enslaved anti-mutant killing machines).
Bastion is literally not human, and is goal is not to preserve humanity, but eliminate mutants, by any means necessary. He is just savvy enough to play on human fears towards this end. Master Mold said as far back as season 1 that humans and mutants are the same species and that simply eliminating mutants is not logical unless you are also doing something about humans.
(though to answer the question- yes, the X-Gene would in fact be enough to draw a distinction between humans and mutants; regardless of whether they qualify as a "species" or not, they are clearly a distinct entity, as both humans AND mutants acknowledge. A better question would be why all mutants are lumped together as one entity despite they often radical differences between mutant individuals- Xavier is totally different from Beast, who is totally different from Mystique, who is totally different from Wolverine etc; a shared sense of persecution and a special gene is really all they have in common).
In the X-men TAS universe. Magneto as early as Season 1 of Episode 3, try to jump-start the Mutant-Human War by launching nuclear missiles and killing U.S politicians (Senator Kelly). This understandably cause massive scare among the civilian population which lead to extremist politicians and factions (like Friends of Humanity and Trasks)
Bastion is lying out of his ass because he wants to kill off humanity. He knows that humans and mutants are the same (as Master Mold outright states that mutants are humans in the original series) but he actively stokes the flames of racism and division via propaganda to start a war.
Because bigots never think logically.