An impressive feet here is that they managed to get a space battle which shows off some major long range combat and keep it visually interesting. In Galactica, Star Wars or Star Trek, armadas of spacecraft have to get within less than five clicks before exchanging fire (sometimes bullshiting us by saying that a craft maybe ten hull lengths away that is clearly ten thousand kilometers to starbord)
I remember the old days when the 'enemy' was either technologically superior to you, or vastly outnumbered you, or both. Japan viewed the USA that way, USA and USSR both viewed Germany that way, and NATO and USSR viewed eachother that way. Your generation misses not having anyone around powerful enough to shoot at and be worth worrying about happens next if you miss.
That depends entirely on the scale. In °C it's 173° above absolute zero. In Fahreheit it's even warmer and in Kelvin it's impossible. None of these temperatures really make sense. Even more stupid is that the few gas particles in space are so thin that their temperature is completely irrelevant. The temperature of a spaceship is entirely determined by how much energy comes in from the sun plus how much heat your internal systems produce vs how much energy you radiate off with cooling systems. It's actually far easier to accidentially cook your spaceship than to freeze it.
IMO the 2202 version of this battle is way better better (sure, it borders on power creep, but it's nice visually, the commanders aren't braindead, and the outcome isn't decided by hack physics ex machina), but I have a soft spot for this one, especially for the way the ships exploded.
We all remember how it went: RUN HOME FROM SCHOOL AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!!!! HURRY UP WITH THE CHORES!!!! HURRY UP WITH THE HOMEWORK!!!!! GUARD THE TV AT ALL COSTS!!!!!! BECAUSE STAR BLAZERS IS ON IN FIVE MINUTES!!!
Commenter afnaste is correct. The line about "Commander, we're at the core of the ice ring, the temperature is 100 degrees below zero" gets rendered in the subtitles of "Space Battleship Yamato" as "Commander, we'll soon reach the Cassini Gap." Quite a difference. Also, "Magna Flame Gun" gets translated as "burst energy direct transport cannon" in SBY, which while more wordy is really a much better translation, if you watch how it works...
It's actually using Lysis' SMITE tech from the first season. Note the energy pulses on either side of the cannon itself. It fires into a SMITE field which spacewarps the blast.
you damn right!!! this cartoon puts you on the edge of your seat cartoons now full of fluff and fliff hey you ever seen ROBOTECH if not I highly recommend you watch it!!!
ahhh, palmetto florida, 1984, every morning before school was battle of the planets and tranzor z (gotchaman and mezinger respectively) and every afternoon starblazers (yamato of course) and then robotech (macross) was added. ya know, tv today just cant compare, sorry but it's true. thankfully we have youtube and the net to buy such gems. oh yes, we had it good.
@KNJ3 I also ran home from school in Lancaster, PA to watch Starblazers on ch. 29 out of Philadelphia. We, were running at the same time to watch the same show 30 years ago. The internet is amazing - such a small world! I could barely get reception (days before cable).
@KNJ3 Yo!! you from philly too....channel 29 at 3:30...watched it every day....i'm 40 now...and i still watch as you can tell...what part of philly...back then of course..i was in kensington!
When watching the Japanese version Bleak doesn't make any mention of what caused the blowback. Apparently the translators felt an explanation was needed but hadn't a clue about outer space. Reminds me of the time they had Venture saying that Mars was 'thousands of light-years' from Earth in series 1. :(
Yeah, it might be a good thing to remember how your weapons work, and when and where they don't. (Ugh, did they really write that as the turning point of the battle??) and don't forget, at 100 deg. below zero, Saturn's ice ring is colder than dep space. Wow, who would have thought??
Whernt very inventive with the ships in this were they? The space ships seems like boats and the fighters look like fighter jets, oh well, i cant complain this is the first ive even heard of it! dont mind me though!
@DartsRme312 I don't know about cold and gravity, but if you roll with the premise that the rings are ice, it was probably the flashing of the ice to vapor that whacked their guns. Ice crystals vaporizing in the barrel of that big gun would definitely be bad.
Why do all the other ships blow up so easily? and the Argo can take 10 to 20 hits show damage but never blow up?? Great series but have some consistancy. Could some of the Commet Empire ships take some damage and fly away damaged instead of completely blowing up after 1 hit? what are they filed with hydrogen?
Actually the Cometine SBBs have the MagnaShock Cannons, capable of dispatching Earthships with a single shot...as Admiral Slate found out the hard way...only EDF BBs can take more than one hit from the Magna Shock cannon before being destroyed
Its asumed they were destroyed by the comet ... in the original version you can see the ships in the Yamato (or Argo here) task force being sucked by the comet, like if they fall in some gravitary well
Ha! I use to watch Force Five too! Tuesday's episodes were the best. I use to run around the house pretending eject hatchets from my shoulders! "DOUBLE HATCHET BOOMER-RANG!"
Earth tactic #1 : After criticizing the enemy for dividing his fleet (btw Does this remind anyone of Midway?) What does Gideon do? Sends poor Slate to his death. Good thing Bleek was just as incompetant.
lets see: 5 ships with 6 barrels, 5x6=30 A6 rounds 30x6=360 2 shots from each round hit 28x6=168 360-168=192 so the comet flagship is hit around 192 times before exploding
still amazing to me....the argo and the starforce...still overlooked after all the battles ...so what if they took out the andromeda...the starforce was much better
For all the talk about the Comet Empire having a larger fleet and more powerful ships, I'm not impressed by them. Only Bleek's flagship carries a capital weapon while several earth ships besides the Andromeda do. And aside from Bleek's ship, virtually all of them can be destroyed by a single shock cannon blast.
An otherwise great sequence is spoiled utterly at the end when the enemy general declares, "If only I hadn't forgotten..." Really? You forgot? The enemy general in fact declares himself to be a hopelessly incompetent moron. I hope that was a butchery of the translation and something else was really stated.
An impressive feet here is that they managed to get a space battle which shows off some major long range combat and keep it visually interesting. In Galactica, Star Wars or Star Trek, armadas of spacecraft have to get within less than five clicks before exchanging fire (sometimes bullshiting us by saying that a craft maybe ten hull lengths away that is clearly ten thousand kilometers to starbord)
I watched this at 8am. it was on again after school. I had this, Atari 2600 and Force Five. Great times.
I remember the old days when the 'enemy' was either technologically superior to you, or vastly outnumbered you, or both. Japan viewed the USA that way, USA and USSR both viewed Germany that way, and NATO and USSR viewed eachother that way. Your generation misses not having anyone around powerful enough to shoot at and be worth worrying about happens next if you miss.
02:40 "The temperature is 100 below zero" ... which I think is pretty warm for the emptiness of space, no? :D
That depends entirely on the scale. In °C it's 173° above absolute zero. In Fahreheit it's even warmer and in Kelvin it's impossible. None of these temperatures really make sense.
Even more stupid is that the few gas particles in space are so thin that their temperature is completely irrelevant.
The temperature of a spaceship is entirely determined by how much energy comes in from the sun plus how much heat your internal systems produce vs how much energy you radiate off with cooling systems.
It's actually far easier to accidentially cook your spaceship than to freeze it.
IMO the 2202 version of this battle is way better better (sure, it borders on power creep, but it's nice visually, the commanders aren't braindead, and the outcome isn't decided by hack physics ex machina), but I have a soft spot for this one, especially for the way the ships exploded.
We all remember how it went:
RUN HOME FROM SCHOOL AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!!!!
HURRY UP WITH THE CHORES!!!!
HURRY UP WITH THE HOMEWORK!!!!!
GUARD THE TV AT ALL COSTS!!!!!!
BECAUSE STAR BLAZERS IS ON IN FIVE MINUTES!!!
Did the person who does the Comet Empire commander's voice do Starscream in the original transformers cartoon?
I used to watch this show every morning, 8 am, channel 47 in Toronto, in 1984-85. Still the best ever!
After 6:05, when Medalusa is about to explode, he dies and apologizes to the emperor is cut.
Wonder how many lives that been sacrificed because of shitty commanders..
at least 2000
何を食べるんだけどね？コロナではありませんからね。今度食事でもしたいと思いますよ。
Channel 56, Boston Mass. The greatest Cartoon ever!
Commenter afnaste is correct. The line about "Commander, we're at the core of the ice ring, the temperature is 100 degrees below zero" gets rendered in the subtitles of "Space Battleship Yamato" as "Commander, we'll soon reach the Cassini Gap." Quite a difference.
Also, "Magna Flame Gun" gets translated as "burst energy direct transport cannon" in SBY, which while more wordy is really a much better translation, if you watch how it works...
WGN Ch.9 in Chicago played this at 6am during the week. I got up early to watch it, then get ready for school.
I think I had to sprint 3 mega-meters after school to catch Starblazers on Ch. 29 in Phila. Definitely my favorite cartoon.
It's actually using Lysis' SMITE tech from the first season. Note the energy pulses on either side of the cannon itself.
It fires into a SMITE field which spacewarps the blast.
Well when I was 8 years old my imagination didn't care whether the facts stood up to scientific fact. What a great show this was.
you damn right!!!
this cartoon puts you on the edge of your seat cartoons now full of fluff and fliff
hey you ever seen ROBOTECH if not I highly recommend you watch it!!!
Hasn't been a capital ship battle that cool until Babylon 5 came around.
One of the best cartoons ever!!!!!
To this day, there still has never been better.
ahhh, palmetto florida, 1984, every morning before school was battle of the planets and tranzor z (gotchaman and mezinger respectively) and every afternoon starblazers (yamato of course) and then robotech (macross) was added. ya know, tv today just cant compare, sorry but it's true. thankfully we have youtube and the net to buy such gems. oh yes, we had it good.
I remember tape recording this episode for my brother because he couldn't make it home in time to watch it. pre-VCR days
@KNJ3 I also ran home from school in Lancaster, PA to watch Starblazers on ch. 29 out of Philadelphia. We, were running at the same time to watch the same show 30 years ago. The internet is amazing - such a small world! I could barely get reception (days before cable).
@KNJ3 Yo!! you from philly too....channel 29 at 3:30...watched it every day....i'm 40 now...and i still watch as you can tell...what part of philly...back then of course..i was in kensington!
When watching the Japanese version Bleak doesn't make any mention of what caused the blowback. Apparently the translators felt an explanation was needed but hadn't a clue about outer space. Reminds me of the time they had Venture saying that Mars was 'thousands of light-years' from Earth in series 1. :(
Much like Gideon being so stupid as to divide his fleet after taking advantage of the same thing to send Yamato to destroy the CE carriers.
Torrented, internet. Still pretty awesome.
Yeah, it might be a good thing to remember how your weapons work, and when and where they don't. (Ugh, did they really write that as the turning point of the battle??) and don't forget, at 100 deg. below zero, Saturn's ice ring is colder than dep space. Wow, who would have thought??
It was CH. 25. 2 Doobies and a couple of cans of Pepsi = after school special.
We did the same for Speed Racer!! Also loved Starblazers
By this time, EDF ships had warp capability. The carriers were modified Borodino class space battleships.
It was actually WSBK 38 very briefly, then WXNE 25 (before it was the local Fox affiliate) took it over.
Whernt very inventive with the ships in this were they? The space ships seems like boats and the fighters look like fighter jets, oh well, i cant complain this is the first ive even heard of it! dont mind me though!
Nolt1 FYI Absolute zero is -273C there is no lower temp than this as u should know
01:34 Without a doubt, this green leader's voice is Chris Latta.
Yes hide in the ice rign where its cold.....too bad that day the rest of space was a balmy 71 degrees with low humidity!!! Channel 56 Boston!
@DartsRme312 I don't know about cold and gravity, but if you roll with the premise that the rings are ice, it was probably the flashing of the ice to vapor that whacked their guns. Ice crystals vaporizing in the barrel of that big gun would definitely be bad.
You Ain't Lieing!
Have a Good One!
If I'm right, deep space is much colder than Saturn's Ice Rings!
I wonder what would have happened has Wildstar had his entire carrier group launch a strike at the Cometine battlefleet
Why do all the other ships blow up so easily? and the Argo can take 10 to 20 hits show damage but never blow up?? Great series but have some consistancy. Could some of the Commet Empire ships take some damage and fly away damaged instead of completely blowing up after 1 hit? what are they filed with hydrogen?
In other words, it's the only ship in the whole Comet Empire fleet that's as durable as the Argo!
迫力あるね〜!
Actually the Cometine SBBs have the MagnaShock Cannons, capable of dispatching Earthships with a single shot...as Admiral Slate found out the hard way...only EDF BBs can take more than one hit from the Magna Shock cannon before being destroyed
That It Was!
Have a Good One!
Yep! I Think It Was Before Transformere!'Have a Good One!
gotta wonder if it was the gravity as well as the cold that made the magna flame gun do what it did??
バルゼーの声どうにかならんのかね？超大物なのに・・・
パシタ臭い・・・何よあのファイヤーの言い方・・・
the only other space battle i seen this cool
was the Wizard fleet battle in Night Wizard
having giant sniper guns was cool
Its asumed they were destroyed by the comet ... in the original version you can see the ships in the Yamato (or Argo here) task force being sucked by the comet, like if they fall in some gravitary well
When first battle why not just use wave motion guns
the enemy was out of range
Damm RIGHT
@UltraGokin
Oye, I'm 21 and I used to watch this show all the time! Don't be so quick to judge all of the new generation.
Ha! I use to watch Force Five too! Tuesday's episodes were the best. I use to run around the house pretending eject hatchets from my shoulders! "DOUBLE HATCHET BOOMER-RANG!"
Earth tactic #1 : After criticizing the enemy for dividing his fleet (btw Does this remind anyone of Midway?) What does Gideon do? Sends poor Slate to his death. Good thing Bleek was just as incompetant.
@hoos3014 A fan from PHilly??? YAY!
GET"R"DONE!
Star Blazers & Speed Racer!
Best Cartoons in Japanese Animation!
What Passes For Cartoons Now-a-Days,
Just Ain't Right!
lets see: 5 ships with 6 barrels, 5x6=30 A6 rounds 30x6=360
2 shots from each round hit 28x6=168
360-168=192
so the comet flagship is hit around 192 times before exploding
open fire
Turkey shoot!!
owned ;0)
still amazing to me....the argo and the starforce...still overlooked after all the battles ...so what if they took out the andromeda...the starforce was much better
Gideon wasnt half the captain as avatar was
I thought it was channel 25? HAHA
Space warp :)
@joemjackson I'M FROM PHILLY!!
Epic!!!
@TheOtherSteel lmao!
For all the talk about the Comet Empire having a larger fleet and more powerful ships, I'm not impressed by them. Only Bleek's flagship carries a capital weapon while several earth ships besides the Andromeda do. And aside from Bleek's ship, virtually all of them can be destroyed by a single shock cannon blast.
There are even kamikaze pilots... cool
lol
School Dismissal: 3:00 pm
Star Blazers on Ch. 29: 3:30 pm
Distance to home: 1 mile
HOW. FAST. CAN. YOU. RUN????
An otherwise great sequence is spoiled utterly at the end when the enemy general declares, "If only I hadn't forgotten..." Really? You forgot?
The enemy general in fact declares himself to be a hopelessly incompetent moron.
I hope that was a butchery of the translation and something else was really stated.
ヤマトが波動胞持ってるなら他のも持ってるとなぜ考えない＃？
ほんとバルぜー使えないわ。
and EPIC FAIL!
やっぱ2202の方が面白い。
Oh the stupidity of the voice acting! It burns!
迫力に欠ける声優だなースポンジみたいな声
Whoa those voice actors are horrible
Japanese dub is 100 times much better
lame.
If I'm right, deep space is much colder than Saturn's Ice Wing!
Space warp :)