I quickly cross referenced your 3DMark results with those achieved with regular 2080 FEs and they're spot-on. Both Timespy and Firestrike are actually on the higher end of average for a 2080 FE. The fact that this prototype can hold its own so well seems weird to me. Nvidia must have settled on the "RTX" branding very late in development! Very interesting video, would love to see more!
Great video, first and foremost! Small nitpick though: I've never heard of people getting banned on Origin/BNet/Riot for using a modified driver. By that logic, nobody could run NVCleanstall with the driver telemetry stripped out because that would also cause the GPU driver to lose its signature. NVCleanstall actually has a workaround for the driver signature issue and you can also "fake" the GPU you're running, so it could be interesting for you to try that out on that GTX 2080 to see if that would make the driver look more "official"
Glad you liked the video! I think it depends on the game, more than the platform. For example, Apex Legends would outright trigger Easy Anti-Cheat with the unsigned driver. Same went with Overwatch 2 and Valorant. I'm still somewhat new with modifications of drivers and such. I imagine that workaround would work! If you could point me in the right direction to some more information on that, I would greatly appreciate it!
@@WiltshireTutorials Damn, that's a shame! Let's pray the other owners can release their vBIOSes so that these workarounds are not necessary and we can see the actual performance of the card (even possibly overclocked?) Regarding NVCleanstall, since I can't paste links, there's an article on the LaptopVideo2Go Forums called "How to mod and sign NVIDIA drivers with TPU NVCleanstall". From my understanding, even if it doesn't pretend to be an actual 2080, it can (hopefully) sign the driver you used in the video. Hope this helps!
@@jimmat686 Luckily, the original Reddit user was kind enough to dump the VBIOS for his card! So, I may be able to flash his VBIOS to my card and get the certified drivers working! I can still overclock the card a little bit, but I do not have access to the power limit slider with my modified driver. Unfortunately, I have links blocked completely. Saves people from malicious links. Anyway, that's super interesting and I'll give that forum a read-through! Thanks for lending a hand! I appreciate it very much!
at the time of "You" recording this video of Cyberpunk 2077, it still have a Bug in the game where the Settings doesn't always apply automatically every time you changed any settings. You need to fully restart the game whenever you make changes to the settings to make it fully applied. Yes this is a bug, and the only reliable workaround for it by restarting the game
Oh really? I recorded the video on Saturday. It did seem like the settings changes took affect when recording. I'll double-check my results to see if I ran into that bug! Thanks for sharing that information with me!
nice grab! i just picked up an old alienware(pre-dell buyout) with an oooold ATI 512 mb gpu. gonna build a nice looking retro pc for the wife, but the gpu is going on the wall.
interesting, i actually got a 2080 windforce OC edition prototype (it has huge empty area on the board and a separate board that wired onto the graphics card with "what looks like" a thermal exteral sensor. Northwest repair is the ones that told me it had to be a prototype due to it being very different than the others on the market.. Im still researching this to find out exactly what i have here but a note to gigabyte-- they couldn't answer what it is.
Did you buy it second hand? It very well could be an engineering sample for their Windforce OC judging by your description. I highly suggest preserving the VBIOS on the card with GPU-Z. It very well could be the only living example of that VBIOS. Someone may be able to tell what the extra board is for from the BIOS file too. It could've been used for tests using an LN2 pot for overclocking? That would be my guess, if it looks like a thermal probe of some sort.
yo the articles about my card made it into a youtube video its interesting that your card lights up green but mine lights up white ive tried to use software to change the color but i couldn't get anything to work sadly your bios version is also different then mine, mine is 90.04.01.30.00 ive upgraded my my cpu and cyberpunk runs like a dream
I believe we talked on Reddit before! That's kinda neat to know that the LED is a different colour on mine than it is yours. I wonder if mine has an RGB LED in it that I can change? I know you uploaded the VBIOS to TechPowerUp. I was thinking of downloading it and flashing it to my card. But, I'm concerned over bricking it. I'd rather not ruin a prototype card. Awesome to hear that you're using it as a daily driver too!
@@WiltshireTutorialsyeah we talked on my reddit post you can buy a bios flashing kit that will flash straight to the bios chip they can be used to unbrick cards that's what I'd do to flash the card I was going to fix a Chinese scam gpu with that method but I never got around to doing it apparently it doesn't always work but it's always an option i tried to send you a picture of it lit up white through reddit but it wouldnt let me
Ya, unfortunate! I'll see if I can find a decent rig to benchmark the card on! Must have something to do with Dell's UEFI BIOS not playing nicely with the card.
Considering it's an Engineering Sample, I would suggest just going with the i5 12400K. Engineering Samples can be a bit tricky to work with. Most motherboards will outright not post/boot with the Engineering Sample. Most require really old or specific BIOS revisions to get things to boot. Really a game of trial and error.
That's plausible. However, I think it was more of Nvidia's marketing department wanting to separate the cards that could raytrace and those that couldn't. Hence the RTX and GTX line of cards.
I quickly cross referenced your 3DMark results with those achieved with regular 2080 FEs and they're spot-on. Both Timespy and Firestrike are actually on the higher end of average for a 2080 FE.
The fact that this prototype can hold its own so well seems weird to me. Nvidia must have settled on the "RTX" branding very late in development!
Very interesting video, would love to see more!
Glad to see that the performance is up to snuff on the prototype! Was kinda worried the modified driver would cause issues with the performance.
Great video, first and foremost! Small nitpick though: I've never heard of people getting banned on Origin/BNet/Riot for using a modified driver. By that logic, nobody could run NVCleanstall with the driver telemetry stripped out because that would also cause the GPU driver to lose its signature. NVCleanstall actually has a workaround for the driver signature issue and you can also "fake" the GPU you're running, so it could be interesting for you to try that out on that GTX 2080 to see if that would make the driver look more "official"
Glad you liked the video! I think it depends on the game, more than the platform. For example, Apex Legends would outright trigger Easy Anti-Cheat with the unsigned driver. Same went with Overwatch 2 and Valorant. I'm still somewhat new with modifications of drivers and such. I imagine that workaround would work! If you could point me in the right direction to some more information on that, I would greatly appreciate it!
@@WiltshireTutorials Damn, that's a shame! Let's pray the other owners can release their vBIOSes so that these workarounds are not necessary and we can see the actual performance of the card (even possibly overclocked?)
Regarding NVCleanstall, since I can't paste links, there's an article on the LaptopVideo2Go Forums called "How to mod and sign NVIDIA drivers with TPU NVCleanstall". From my understanding, even if it doesn't pretend to be an actual 2080, it can (hopefully) sign the driver you used in the video.
Hope this helps!
@@jimmat686 Luckily, the original Reddit user was kind enough to dump the VBIOS for his card! So, I may be able to flash his VBIOS to my card and get the certified drivers working! I can still overclock the card a little bit, but I do not have access to the power limit slider with my modified driver.
Unfortunately, I have links blocked completely. Saves people from malicious links. Anyway, that's super interesting and I'll give that forum a read-through! Thanks for lending a hand! I appreciate it very much!
@@WiltshireTutorials nvcleaninstalls driver signature also states "easy anticheat bypass" as well
Really!? Definitely looking to that when I get a spare moment!
at the time of "You" recording this video of Cyberpunk 2077, it still have a Bug in the game where the Settings doesn't always apply automatically every time you changed any settings.
You need to fully restart the game whenever you make changes to the settings to make it fully applied. Yes this is a bug, and the only reliable workaround for it by restarting the game
Oh really? I recorded the video on Saturday. It did seem like the settings changes took affect when recording. I'll double-check my results to see if I ran into that bug! Thanks for sharing that information with me!
nice grab! i just picked up an old alienware(pre-dell buyout) with an oooold ATI 512 mb gpu. gonna build a nice looking retro pc for the wife, but the gpu is going on the wall.
That would be a neat piece to have on display! The GTX 2080 is definitely going to be displayed in the future.
The legend returns 🔥
I always come back. Like a phoenix lol
You can boot with signature varification enforcement on with the .inf modded driver, it's only to install it that you need it off
Interesting! Thanks for sharing this tidbit of information! I appreciate it very much.
That card looks so nice
Nvidia always does a nice job of making their cards look aesthetically pleasing.
I’m always surprised and excited to see these prototypes/ preproduction samples being found and tested / run to see what they can actually do 🥳🥰👍.
I was surprised when I stumbled upon the card too, to be honest! Always fun to mess around with pre-production hardware!
interesting, i actually got a 2080 windforce OC edition prototype (it has huge empty area on the board and a separate board that wired onto the graphics card with "what looks like" a thermal exteral sensor. Northwest repair is the ones that told me it had to be a prototype due to it being very different than the others on the market.. Im still researching this to find out exactly what i have here but a note to gigabyte-- they couldn't answer what it is.
Did you buy it second hand? It very well could be an engineering sample for their Windforce OC judging by your description. I highly suggest preserving the VBIOS on the card with GPU-Z. It very well could be the only living example of that VBIOS. Someone may be able to tell what the extra board is for from the BIOS file too.
It could've been used for tests using an LN2 pot for overclocking? That would be my guess, if it looks like a thermal probe of some sort.
yo the articles about my card made it into a youtube video its interesting that your card lights up green but mine lights up white ive tried to use software to change the color but i couldn't
get anything to work sadly your bios version is also different then mine, mine is 90.04.01.30.00 ive upgraded my my cpu and cyberpunk runs like a dream
I believe we talked on Reddit before! That's kinda neat to know that the LED is a different colour on mine than it is yours. I wonder if mine has an RGB LED in it that I can change? I know you uploaded the VBIOS to TechPowerUp. I was thinking of downloading it and flashing it to my card. But, I'm concerned over bricking it. I'd rather not ruin a prototype card. Awesome to hear that you're using it as a daily driver too!
@@WiltshireTutorialsyeah we talked on my reddit post you can buy a bios flashing kit that will flash straight to the bios chip they can be used to unbrick cards that's what I'd do to flash the card I was going to fix a Chinese scam gpu with that method but I never got around to doing it apparently it doesn't always work but it's always an option i tried to send you a picture of it lit up white through reddit but it wouldnt let me
Shame on the OptiFlex no go.
Ya, unfortunate! I'll see if I can find a decent rig to benchmark the card on! Must have something to do with Dell's UEFI BIOS not playing nicely with the card.
A i9 12900 es is good bang for the buck for gaming or nah
An i9-12900 is quite the CPU! If it's on mega discount, I don't see why not!
@@WiltshireTutorials i was saying about the confidential ones but the first pcie is not usable it it worth or jus buy a i5 12400 or i3 12100
Considering it's an Engineering Sample, I would suggest just going with the i5 12400K. Engineering Samples can be a bit tricky to work with. Most motherboards will outright not post/boot with the Engineering Sample. Most require really old or specific BIOS revisions to get things to boot. Really a game of trial and error.
This is amazing.
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching
Maybe it was named GTX 2080 because since it was a prototype. Could be that is to avoid people leaking its real name.
That's plausible. However, I think it was more of Nvidia's marketing department wanting to separate the cards that could raytrace and those that couldn't. Hence the RTX and GTX line of cards.
Bro you gotta upload more 😭😭😭
I know! 😫 I'm trying my best to pick up the pace a little bit! Hopefully will have content uploaded more consistently now!
This has 128 more cores. A normal RTX 2080 has 2944.
Oh, man! I didn't even see that in GPU-Z when recording! Good catch on that one! Interesting how they cut out 128 of them...
Should do a comparison between between yours and a normal RTX to see if there's much difference
@@vinhphan946 if only I had access to an RTX 2080 FE! I don't know anyone who has one either! I'll see what I can come up with to compare the 2!
good video
Thanks 😁
Hey, I have one too!
Really? Were you able to get the driver to install on the card or did you have to take the modded route, like myself?
I was able to run it just like a regular card with its normal drivers but it’s performance seemed crippled
Interesting! Do you know what VBIOS revision your card has? I'm thinking my is different
I don't know who you are but in your thumbnail you look like dream 💀
Not quite lol. The jaw-line is a the same. Hair a little different though