The Luckiest No Rotation Game (BetaTetris NoRo)

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • More than 3 years ago, I created my first NES Tetris AI that played no rotation, well before BetaTetris was developed. Over these years, I've learned a lot from developing BetaTetris, so recently I decided to revisit the no rotation format and trained a new agent.
    After completing the training, I ran 100,000 games on 50,000 randomly-generated TetrisGYM seeds (left well and right well for each seed). For all but two seeds, the maximum score was 80 lines, except for this one game that was a huge outlier, as well as another game with 90 lines.
    Based on my estimation from the score distribution of other games, this agent can achieve 103+ lines in approximately only 1 in 5~6 million games (0.00002%). It is thus extremely lucky to found this seed even with 100,000 games. I ran an additional 300,000 games and did not find another game with more than 95 lines.
    This is a no limits run, meaning the agent can react to the next box instantly, but it didn't know the seed and the piece sequence beforehand.
    The agent achieves an average of 30.6 lines in this format (level 0 start, no limits), 6.2 lines higher than the previous noro agent. It achieves 30 lines in about 52% of the games, 35 in 30%, 40 in 15%, 45 in 6.7%, 50 in 2.6%, 55 in 1%, 60 in 0.33%, 65 in 0.1%, and 70 in 0.03~0.04% of the games. It also showed no statistically significant difference between the left and right well on level 0 with no rotation. At higher speeds (15, 19, 29 starts), right well performed slightly better (0.2 lines higher on average).
    This no rotation agent can also play with / without adjustments, with / without tuck, and various starting levels (0, 9, 15, 19, 29). Gameplays in different formats are coming out soon!
    The source code and the model are both available in this repository: github.com/adrien1018/betatet... (documentation not available yet)
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Комментарии • 69

  • @adrien_1018
    @adrien_1018  28 дней назад +5

    Zoltan has provided an analysis for this game! You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/ReyV6wpqcSc/видео.html

  • @OS_Erol
    @OS_Erol Месяц назад +198

    They should make a game like this but where you can rotate the pieces, i think a lot of people would play it, it seems pretty underrated

    • @darker4793
      @darker4793 Месяц назад +18

      That would be the worst decision in the history of video games, that would never work and even worse if they make it for portable consoles

    • @OS_Erol
      @OS_Erol Месяц назад +11

      @@darker4793 imagine if they added a level that was so fast you could barely tap fast enough to still play well, surely no one could ever beat that right?

    • @zZeimos
      @zZeimos Месяц назад +2

      Imagine they had to add a faster speed for all the pros. That would be so sick.

    • @raffimolero64
      @raffimolero64 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@OS_Erol No way that would work. Knowing the software industry nowadays, they'd release a half-written beta build with a bunch of glitches that completely break the game and call it an "Early Access" and all the patches would have to be implemented through community modding.
      Hell, games are so badly optimized in this day and age that I wouldn't be surprised if basic *math* caused the game to crash.

    • @jayxone
      @jayxone Месяц назад +2

      Now imagine if they made it so that you get REWARDED for spinning, it would absolutely ruin the original spirit of the game

  • @golden_rod
    @golden_rod Месяц назад +37

    zoltan taking notes

  • @raineyoung3291
    @raineyoung3291 29 дней назад +22

    this is a really weird but effective way of stacking for no rotation... never thought that stacking horizontally would get that far.

  • @user-sc2xl5mk5f
    @user-sc2xl5mk5f 29 дней назад +6

    3:00 even got combos more than I've ever got in this version of the game

  •  Месяц назад +13

    It does the PC setups I am very proud but stacks on left?!
    It effortlessly gets 100 lines like wtf dude?!?!?

    • @adrien_1018
      @adrien_1018  Месяц назад +12

      It just happens that this game is right well (it can do both left or right well and I run both) - there is basically no difference between left and right on low levels
      and 100 lines is the power of having 1 in 5 million luck :)

  • @WriteWordsMakeMagic
    @WriteWordsMakeMagic 29 дней назад +1

    Insane!

  • @docpi3141
    @docpi3141 29 дней назад +2

    incredible

  • @triskai
    @triskai Месяц назад +6

    🔥

  • @ajaxmajor
    @ajaxmajor Месяц назад +13

    pretty good, but when I did no rotation I cleared 103 and a half lines

    • @usernameunkn0wn-1
      @usernameunkn0wn-1 Месяц назад +2

      Wdym half

    • @Austin_Playz27
      @Austin_Playz27 29 дней назад +8

      its a joke 103 lines would be far beyond wr

    • @joshk147
      @joshk147 29 дней назад +9

      A line is a line you can't say it's only a half

    • @Andrux0821
      @Andrux0821 29 дней назад

      @@joshk147ok josh “k” 147

    • @superburger1122
      @superburger1122 26 дней назад

      ​@@joshk147 well i actually can but yeah this guy cant

  • @maxelkjaernersting
    @maxelkjaernersting 29 дней назад +2

    Approximately ten times better than me ……

  • @irrigamii
    @irrigamii 29 дней назад +2

    This is insane wtf

  • @cmyk8964
    @cmyk8964 29 дней назад +1

    A triumph of AI

  • @darrenlo9802
    @darrenlo9802 23 дня назад +1

    Zoltan better try this seed

  • @kruks
    @kruks 27 дней назад

    I know Tetris well and I can't make heads or tails of the strategy without rotation. It's eery.

  • @matthew99_
    @matthew99_ Месяц назад +1

    GG

  • @aidanhennessey5586
    @aidanhennessey5586 27 дней назад

    Fire

  • @Zempro
    @Zempro 29 дней назад +2

    jfc adrien

  • @sonicclang
    @sonicclang 25 дней назад +1

    Ok, starting at level 0, they're not that fast. How much did you speed this up?

    • @adrien_1018
      @adrien_1018  24 дня назад +1

      It is because all the pieces are pushed down as much as possible (see the input display on the lower left). The video is not sped up.

  • @ryanamburgy2791
    @ryanamburgy2791 Месяц назад +1

    DAMN

  • @user-vw6lh4nh8p
    @user-vw6lh4nh8p 24 дня назад +3

    cheating! you clearly did rotate the block piece multiple times!

  • @iwersonsch5131
    @iwersonsch5131 Месяц назад +2

    How far can this agent get if it knows the next 4 pieces?

    •  Месяц назад +1

      Probably 4-500 at least

  • @worldprops333
    @worldprops333 Месяц назад +9

    when is betatetris true rebirth

    • @bobczech7774
      @bobczech7774 Месяц назад +1

      lol

    • @adrien_1018
      @adrien_1018  Месяц назад +3

      4 months ago :)

    • @worldprops333
      @worldprops333 Месяц назад

      @@adrien_1018 why didnt you upload it then all there is on channel is normal rebirth not 17,600 line piece rng reset true rebirth

    • @adrien_1018
      @adrien_1018  29 дней назад +1

      Oh I thought you meant original ROM
      then no since RNG/framecount reset requires RNG manipulation, it is only doable using TAS

    • @worldprops333
      @worldprops333 29 дней назад

      @@adrien_1018 ok

  • @codygrandell
    @codygrandell Месяц назад +1

    You should compare this to stack rabbit

  • @nguyencraft0195
    @nguyencraft0195 Месяц назад +1

    why in the last piece, row 2 isnt cleared?

    • @tottiman3939
      @tottiman3939 Месяц назад +2

      well he topped out, maybe that's processed first

  • @David30007
    @David30007 24 дня назад +1

    You get thousands of views but only 551 subs.

  • @Isoundfiveyearsold
    @Isoundfiveyearsold 29 дней назад +3

    Now do rebirth, no rotation
    Is this tas or not?

    •  29 дней назад +4

      this is AI not TAS

  • @klposm
    @klposm 2 дня назад

    betatetris das

  • @Triscap_193
    @Triscap_193 Месяц назад

    Did bro use tas?