Choosing a role in League of Legends
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2023
- Please keep in mind that this may not be applicable to players of all skill levels. This is mostly made for people who are either new to the game or looking to change roles and don't know where to start.
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The end goal of every jungler is to show up to lane both late and unannounced and last hit your team's kills
As a blue kayn main, when im ganking bot It be like that, Just to get blue form faster
The end goal of every jungle is to get advantage for every lane and then watch how everyone throws bounties
And minions in bot
You misspelled cannon minion
the end goal of a jungler is to get fed by ''fixing waves'' and last hitting kill then carry their useless bot lane
Depends on what you want to lose:
Top: fun
Jungle:mind(you'll get blamed for everything)
Mid:enpathy
Adc:sanity
Support: a mix between adc and jungle
Jungler get flamed because of Riot.
Of course they'll flame your mistakes since jungler is the most impactful role.
I've had plenty of games objectively lost because of the jungler, though I don't flame, but still it's just a fact.
Just remove jungler role and the game would improve exponentially.
@@BioTheHuman junglers can't do shit without laners, wanna invade? Check lane state. Wanna get an objective? Chhck if you have prio with nearby lanes. Wanna gank? Of course it doesn't depend on you but on tha wave state and the state of the laners, junglers are like a moving variable who can give a lot of impact if played correctly, but the big constants are the laners, especialy after recent nerfs laners are stronger until mid- late where the exp gets even, you are supposed to get succesfull ganks to stay even so yes jungle has a lot of impact but there are lanes that get even more depending on the stage of the game
@@l3d371 I didn't say junglers have all the impact, but majority of it. You must see it from a statistical pov.
It's like saying that men are statistically more inclined to commit crimes, but I can bet neither of me or you did or want to commit crimes, especially serious ones.
@@BioTheHuman In higher elo that is true, but in lower elo you might not even have a chance to be impactfull. There will be that one lainer who just perma pushes a lane and then flames you for not ganking, because they have been ganked 5 times.
Also worst part is when a lainer dies and you try to fix the wave for them by resetting and they just start spam pinging you.
For mental health it would be better if JG was removed from the game, but it would take out huge part of strategy from the game.
1. Why bother freezing the wave if there is noone who can punish the enemy?
2. Why group for a fight if there is nothing to fight for?
3. You are plaing bad scaling champions, well if you don't win game in 15min can't have a chance for a comback.
4. Lost the lane in first 3min, well can't recover because no chance a lainer is fucking up their lane to help you.
Also if you remove JG the game will just be 2nd ARAM
@@l3d371 The real problem with how junglers works in League, is that you can solo lose the game simply by not doing anything. If you are just afk farming the other jg will just stomp every single lane in 15 minutes, and, even though you technically didn't made a mistake, your lack of impact lost the game.
And cause the game doesn't has a voice chat, the jg won't know that it was their actions (or lack of) that lost the game, cause, again, they didn't made an obvious mistake, and the lanes will blame de jg cause they were getting ganked the whole game.
As a top laner, it really does feel like an island.
Me and the other top laner often end up continuously duelling and fighting for top tower, while i'm just listening to my team on discord in a battlefield down there.
Right? There's such a wild disconnect from the game. And hey sometimes it's peaceful 😭
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As an adc main, there are definitely times I can say the support has been the best player in the game (on either team) and tbh it happens more often than not. A good support makes the game sooooo ez imo.
Support dictates the lane. After years of maining adc I swapped to support playing exclusively playmakers. If your fundamentals are on point and because you don't have any farming responsibilities, you can dominate the whole map and since I am an adc main I know how to set up my adc for success. Imo junglers and supports are still the most influential roles by far mostly because they're dealing with most of the decision making and the rest just acts accordingly.
Ikr? He described support role in the most stereotypical adc point of view he could. He deffo has personal problems with supports xd
@@hweiisthewayI think what hes saying is if u have 4 bots on ur team as a support 99.9% of the time u arent gonna be able to carry that game, but take yorick top lane for example, he can solo push top lane and win games in the same situation
@@hebiiiii ah yeah I adc'ed until diamond. From diamond on I can just expect people to have hands and at least one braincell.
I am a good support. Pyke and sona.
Little correction: Top lane is the lane thats hardest when counter picked.
True
I can agree with that, my point with mid is that the counterpick can have a greater effect on the whole team. I have no doubt that top counterpicks are brutal, believe me I've been there.
@Im_TheNoodle any role is difficult when counter picked but I can agree with your statements. I view jungle as playing chess with the team. If its played correctly both jgs can some of the most fed people on the team. However I have noticed learning some wave states can be beneficial to both everyone involved. Example: if I gank bot and my supp and adc die while I kill their enemy adc and supp and wave is pushing into our tower I'll try to hold wave for as long as possible just to let them set up a freeze, slow push, or just to build up a cs lead, and that applies to every lane I gank. But if our minions are pushing I just shove into turret on those scenarios to punish the enemy and try to get the bounce back for my laners. I do notice my job is also significantly easier when I have laners who actually play for jg. Like setting up vision in river, when I get auto'd sup I always play for jg warding the river when I can, usually a ward in whichever side bush, drag, and one defensive ward in the corresponding side. The outcome is usually a winning game typically. All in all learning how to play multiple roles will always help the main role
Yeah I've had some brutal counter fights they are the best when you end up beating your counter is a mad feeling wondering how it was pulled off but lost alot as well
@@thedrunkendevildog128you should Scream louder the last sentences. Having experience in every role gives you so much knowledge on how to play with your teammates AND against the enemy. Too many junglers know below 0 about wave state and too many laners know nothing about the jungler routes and that they can't spam gank 24/7 all 3 lanes
As a jungler I agree that it’s pretty simple. There isn’t as much skill expression jungling, I mean come on how hard is it to hit the scuttle crab with a skill shot. The problem is you have more things to do than you can possibly accomplish. You are the equivalent of a single parent who on top of working 2 jobs has 3 kids who all expect you to show up to everything they are doing. Even if you play perfectly and move faster than a rabbit on speed you will only be able to accomplish maybe half of what you could do.
The skill expression comes, first in knowing what to clear, then to clear it effectively while looking at lanes, and then being able to adapt to the game state and make decisions, all while being constantly flamed and scapegoated by the team who need to vent their egos' emotions for being solokilled.
@@garagaviaI’d consider that to be knowledge more than skill. The jungler shouldn’t have as much mechanical skill as any laner because anyone in lane would get way more practice against other players than the jungler. Playing jungle is about winning the game with your brain, not your reaction time and muscle memory.
jungle is roll all about leading your team, always watching the map to protect your blind useless bot lane from getting ganked for the 4th time, while you secure exp and gold advantage over the other jungler
@@FrankieWilliams-kx9gpYes because jungle doesn’t have the most mechanically complex champions like Lee sin, Nidalee, Rengar, Kindred, Kha etc.
@@FrankieWilliams-kx9gpLow elo opinion
As an adc main you are mechanically required to be good at kiting, managing waves, being racist, properly rotating to objectives, flaming your jungle, knowing your limits in fights, and basically stealing all the kills and jungle camps as much as possible
Racism is an underrated fundamental of being an adc and is often overlooked. There’s just so many races, and each one needs a finely crafted insult. Its one of the hardest mechanics to learn in league, but someone has to do it.
Top: Your main goal is to be ignored; hopefully by your opposing team not your own. Jungle: You are Atlas. The whole world rests on your shoulders. It's also the jungle baby, you're gonna die. Mid: Lawless realm where if you show any sign of competence the whole enemy team 5 man camps you as your other teammates can't even kill a tower in an empty lane. Adc/Bot: You hate yourself and everyone else and you want to kill them all. Your favorite color is grey/gray because you'll see it a lot because the enemy assassin/mage/adc/brawler/juggernaut/tank/support/soraka/yuumi is fed and one shots you. Support: You like helping others, but are also a masochist. You often wonder if eye and IQ tests should be given out to your teammates prior to them queuing up.
I actually think it a pretty good idea to play every single role, by doing so you understand the game better in general. Also I decided to main jungle because there are too many people in my rank who don't know how to play jungle correctly and it was depressing playing support and watching my jungle run into enemy jungle / contest crab with 0 prior from side/mid lane. Ended up role swapping from support to jungle and instantly climbed from plat to emerald smoothly after learning how jungle works. I believe anyone who wants to learn jungle should look at how agurin and tarzaned plays it tho they have diff playstyles in some sense, the fundamentals are still there. Jungle tracking looking at wave state. Also any jungle mains who doesn't know how wave works/ freeze works really need to learn that
Yeah everyone should have some experience in the jungle just in case they get auto filled but it also helps you track enemy junglers and play smarter. A little experience goes a long way.
I totally agree with this. In the end game knowledge is everything. Especially as a jungler u should know how all of your lanes play out. That includes wave management/wave state understanding and all of the matchups in every single lane. If you can grasp all of this information, process it and act accordingly, your enemies will acknowledge the jungle diff.
Meh I prefer karasmi .yes he's a one trick but he still has very good information. Plus he actually has personality. No not like Dantes who just yells all game 😂😂😂.
I never get auto filled when I pick jungle yet people tell me how the fucking role is suppose to be played. Then they should be forced to que jungle for like 10+ games when they do this.
League pros and cons.
Pros: You can play with 4 friends
Cons: It's League of Legends
Bold of you to assume league players have friends
Facts
I'm considering maining fill. It's the most diverse role by far!
Player diff.
top - depressed and lonely
jungle - let me do what i want
mid - focus me/wannabe faker kid
bot - mental damage/adhd or something similar
support - i want to play the game, but im too lazy to farm
Hot take: dont play support as your first role if youre new. Learn how to lane and be aggressive with another lane first, then go into it. You may warp your perspective into too defensive of a playstyle or not really have enough game sense into what its like to lane. I poorly worded this but its true
Facts
Exactly because it’s a 2v2 in lane the support needs to know what is going on during a fight, damage, flashes, dashes, etc. as well as general map awareness.
I think you should have also noted that Jungler and Support, since they don't deal with minions, should be the ones who try or at least aim for macro and strategy to win the game, especially if you'd like to go competitive.
Yes! that's a great point. It really has a big emphasis on strategy and planning.
That’s why i love jungling, also smite steals are my bread and butter
I am so happy to have found my OTP as Senna.
When I started in Season 3, I mained ADC due to my friends missing that position. I got so fed up that I was always the main target of the enemy team and always got oneshot and that I was not even allowed to auto attack, that I switched to jungle. The Map pressure that role provides also felt really good. But quickly I noticed that my botlane or especially my support didnt set up objectives. So I mained Supp for a while.. and as you mentioned the lack of impact bothered me too.. then I got to play Senna and oh boy.. If you keep my history in mind, this is just the perfect champ.
I can attack from a safe distance to be the ADC-Main I always was in my heart. Often I am NOT the main focus cuz enemys tunnel on the OG ADC, I can pressure map from Ulting, ganking and even splitpushing (😂) and I can provide my team with vision that was always lacking when I was not on support xD
For me Senna is an ADC, Jungler AND Support
Otp senna is not the thing you want in your team tbh...
@@autist1cvoice why? Maybe YOU dont want a Senna OTP in your team, but my Teams are always very happy with me :P
Cuz senna is very situational support and requires a good matchup and limit adc pool which you cant have every game if you are OTP. If it works for you im happy for you@@technofreak39
@@autist1cvoicei do like having a good senna. A bad one is worse than useless, but a decent one can provide so much. I could never play her for the life of me, but if my team has one? Count me in!
I'm glad you found your girl!
Support usually in higher elos is meant to be the shot caller. You don't have the mental load of managing the lane in early game so you and the jungler you are responsible for the map awareness role. Also many supports even enchantresses have great offensive potential which make them really good at ganking, something that is criminally under utilized in low elo and can help you focus on the winning lane and ignore the bot lane if you have to
i got so many kils with roaming with yuumi that it might be considered a criminal act
@@ollowainhd5531 the amount of kills I get from lane herassment with janna since season 6 is illegal
Whatever you do, don’t pick jungle.
It’s mental torture to play jungle
I'll always feel bad for jungle mains lmao
It's actually a really rewarding role to play honestly, is hard, you get flamed alot, but the amount of agency can feel great and the feeling of knowing that a lane is now snowballing thanks to your gank is amazing. I mostly love jungles that are somewhat designed to support others, like Skarner, Nunu and Amumu, and it's really fun tbh. I think people dramatize the role a bit, which scares newcomers.
hi i main support and i think one of the most important skills is being able to analyze your teammates and seeing which ones are good and worth your help. i can tell if my adc is just a time sink from the first 2 to 3 waves, sometimes its better to just roam, get advantage on other lanes or jungle and let the adc fight for himself. it is what it is!
yeah typically mid to late game the support will just pocket whoever is most fed, which usually works out.
Is that why Yummi's always stick to me when I'm jungling (mid to late game)?@@Im_TheNoodle
Wait level 6 and get the heeeeell out 🤣
I main Alistar and a lot of times when I notice my ADC doesn't want to make plays or isn't able to due lack of anything, I rush mobility boots and gank other lanes. My adc might not always like it but at least kill someone if I put them on a platter for you
What made me chose top lane is I find the gameplay on top really interesting and I felt like I’m in the right place. I feel the most focused on top lane, and I like the freedom of choosing from a wider champion options. I love how top lane is an island because I love it if there’s less pressure on my shoulders.
Counterpicks are way worse in toplane, top gets last pick IMO.
I think what's weird about top lane is since there are soooo many different champions it's kind of unclear when counter picks are deliberate. No doubt there's counter picking but I think when compared to mid since top has less presence in the other lanes it's usually safer to make sure mid doesn't get countered. There's some mid champs like malzahar, anivia, and aurelion who can push really well to punish mid laners for roaming and it's things like that which can really affect a match. But yes I feel like mid and top should last if not second to last pick for sure.
@@Im_TheNoodle Top is the most punished lane for mistakes, and you absolutely will be deliberately counterpicked unless facing a one trick. You can also be punished for leaving lane much harder than mid. You'll never see a top shove and roam as a playstyle pre 14 minutes. But it's an entire playstyle that midlaners have the luxury of enjoying if they choose, it's just not as punishable mid if roam timers are used correctly.
100% agree. Top doesn't really have the option to roam if they're shut out of lane. At least mid can try to get jg ahead with a roam if they're losing lane. After the first kill/wave being dropped, top is just screwed in most matchups unless jg or mid saves them. Definitely think the video gets this one wrong, but I'm in Emerald, so what do I know
im pretty new to league (~lvl 70), and this video was pretty helpful, thanks ! :^) you explained the roles' tasks pretty well
lots of great information thank you. I learned more here then in many other video's. well presented.
Glad it helped!
even tho i played league for 5years now its still fun to watch these typesof videos :D
As a newer mid main I think it's pretty spot on. In my experience mid is the most consistent role across all the games, where both midlaners always end up being major contributors to their teams' success. I started out as an Aurelion Sol OTP, which, as a hypercarry, I often felt like the game depended on me not dying and playing well. Nowadays I've been obsessed over Hwei which is a little less of a lategame superpower but has more skill expression, outplay potential, and a smoother scaling throughout all stages of the game.
Playing mid has mostly taught me to farm, stay the fuck alive, look at the map, and get REALLY good at comboing my spells.
I mostly play adc and support otherwise, but can fill jungle if needed. I do not touch top with a 10 foot pole. That lane is hell. If you get a bit behind you are DEAD. OUT OF THE GAME. Also theres a lot more OTPs there and tryhard people, in my experience.
Mid job is literally a mix of jungle and later, you need to get advantage and then share with your team, if you are behind, you can let your lane fall and help your team, or wait the enemy leave the lane and push it, mid easily lose the first tower because of how short the lane is, but it's hard to lose the other 2, it's much easier to the second and 3rd in the other lanes, also, after 15min, everyone will basically start going mid and NOW is where you can get a redemption if you were behind or shine if you had advantage, being in mid have a lot of possibilities without being locked on doing the objectives or being forced to gank like the jungle, but being less punished for leaving your lane, different from top, the mid laner job is literally to be the constant threat to the enemy team, you have to be their headache, be one shoting carries, pushing the lane too fast, destroying the team fight, the more annoying for them you are, the best, I think mid is overall pretty balanced and has an ex support main, nowdays I prefer so much mid lane, just not having to be a babysitter while get spanked by 2 madmen is just much better, being alive really is what you have to take care the most, the pressure on mid often makes someone gank you, what may be bad for you, but it's good for them team, if the jungle or the support left their positions to not make their mid fall, you are helping your team by getting in their way, if you were a support playing, but wanted be more aggressive and relevant, mid lane definitely is the best lane you could go for
The only down side its having to deal with your enemy mid laner, who 99% suck, and they might think they are some anime protagonist with their yasuo or zed and they will spam mastery every time they deal damage to you, but if anything, I can always go to top, get the help of top laner to kill their top and help them push a bit, getting some gold and putting pressure somewhere, later I can make mid fall, it usually work
Cult of the lamb music is so calming
Nice video man! Up and coming channel for sure :)
Thanks homie, I hope so!
This guys high energy really helped with my laziness 🙂
great video, you just gained another subscriber! you deserve more subs
Thank you!
Hey! Happy to see you're making waves with your videos! Happy to have played that one reksai game with you in ranked! Keep it up!!
Dude you're an actual legend, thank you!
I'd like to main jungler since it's so impactful, but I really like being an ADC and the skirmishes you have in laning phase.
Another interesting video could be the second role. For example my second role is Mid, and I think there are many ADCs on the same boat, but now I'm trying to switch to support.
I think being ADC/Supp makes the most sense since in this way you'll always find yourself in the same situation, so you don't need to learn a totally different matchup. Also support is a good alternative for those ADCs who like to play other champs too since marksmen can be very repetitive after a while.
Playing support as a main adc is also very good for when you need to assist your adc with minions. You immediately know what to do, while a lot of times I encounter supports who only ruin my waves
Yeah it's almost natural when adc mains play support because they understand the demands of the role. I think the only issue with that is being used to being in carry positions which can be very draining when you don't have the opportunity to influence your games more. Which at the end of the day is up to the player but I usually fill to support if someone is more comfortable playing adc.
I started as a support mainly because my pc back then was so slow that i never had the option to choose lane, then i became ADC because i was frustrated with all the bad ADCs that never followed the plays or even knew how to farm because of that it seemed to the team that i didnt do a good supp job (even when i had a few adcs waiting for me to support them)
I came back to league this year after dropping it for a few years.
ADC is my strongest role, but im winning more as Mid simply because i never feed the opponent, im not even that good as a midlaner, i just apply my playsafe mental that i got from playing adc and getting destroyed by the enemy feed assassin.
So i almost always come even if i dont win lane in mid, no feed Akali or Zed on my watch lmao
I was going hard on malzahar mid for a while. It's definitely reliable being able to not feed snowballers but eventually I realized that you have to be more proactive when you start climbing. But honestly most of the time all I ask from my mid is not to feed 🤣
Love the cult of the lamb music
One of my favorite OSTs of all time!
I'm new to league, and this video was really helpful!! I've been playing with my friends who are also new. This was insightful bc I prefer top lane but I got my ass beaten by a Brand (i've been playing sett). Good vid 👍
I wish you all luck in your journey! Have fun!
I think one of the main issues that makes both of the bot lane roles frustrating at times is the reliance on another person. If you and your lane partner don't synergize in the slightest it can feel as if you're playing 2 1v2s simultaneously, However, if you and your randomly assigned lane partner happen to mesh well together it can be great fun (obviously both bad and great interactions can happen between any 2 roles, but due to the duo lane nature of bot lane they tend to be more present there)
Where was this guide when I started playing. This is so well made! Anyways Im a happy Lb mid otp now
Man I have like 3000 hours in this game. Idk why but I still enjoy this video 😅
Everybody knows what the jungler should do, nobody wants to be the jungler that knows what to do. Like ok mr toplane if you think a full hp 8/0 darius who's a whole item ahead of both us and you've pushed under tower is going to die to us walking down lane into him and his tower why don't you play jungler and do it yourself
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As a jungler you hit some parts of this on the head. You get flamed for everything so just mute call everyone. That's what I do. I will say tracking jungle camps the enemy jungler, gank angles, minnon waves, match up for jungle and your jungler into laners basic understanding of all champs to gank effectively just to name some things to think of. I really enjoy the role but it has taken me 3 years now to grasp all these concepts and be just average.
Having a good understanding of these things really accelerate it took me a couple years to start watching videos
Top lane is probably the most dreadful. It’s centered around counterpicking so you’ll either have fun and do well or lose your sanity. And as it’s somewhat isolated from the rest of the map, you can’t really rely on your teammates/jungler. Baffling how some people call it the most braindead/stupidest role.
no way this guy described jungle as simple. Though it is considerably easier now than before sadly.
Top: you think you're a chad but you're a cringe barbaroid
Jg: you think you're smart but you're afk
Mid: main character syndrome
Adc: you got bullied in primary school
Support: You're either an egirl (enchanters) or an actual chad (engagers)
What about me who alternates between jungling and playing engage supports.
@@FrankieWilliams-kx9gp you're an afk chad
@@FrankieWilliams-kx9gpyour homosexual
@@dziosdzynes7663😂
toplane thinks that they're gonna die of cancer so they just YOLO
top lives or dies by the counterpick, not mid. fundamentally a midlaner designed to roam like Twisted Fate or Katarina will shove and leave, a really good toplaner will make sure you don't get to farm minions for the next 10 minutes
ADC - "life is on the wire the rest is just waiting"
The sad part about this video is that the stuff about the baron pit and stuff involving the buffs will be outdated in less than a month
I knowwwwww. It's so hard coming up with videos right now cause of all that.
That's a very nice guide, very clear, helped me a lot. I wanted to try League for a long time, I'm studying hard now, so not much time. Decided to put it off for some time. Just watched games and proplay for 2 years bc i'm interested. Was thinking a lot what should I start with (still haven't decided, but probably support or mid. I want to main jg but i'm a little scared 😂)Thanks!
Good luck and I hope you enjoy whichever one you pick!
@@Im_TheNoodle Thank you! :)
Don't be scared of jungle! It's a really rewarding role to learn, and it benefits alot from game knowledge, which you seem to enjoy the pursuit of (watching online content/proplay).
While learning it, just do /deafen and do your thing, communicating through pings. I believe jungle to be a lot of fun, and it's not nearly as hard as people make it to be. It's just a weird one, you know?
Also, once you become good at jungling, many of your teammates will actually notice it, and give you good feedback and nice words. There will always be people bitching about you not ganking them enough after they solo-died twice before scuttler even spawned, but who cares, it's not called League of Crybabies for no reason, you know?
@@csharpcoffee Thanks for affirmations, you're right! That gave me more confidence 😂❤
great guide. as a support main i agree. and i do not prefer playing mages and i dont focus on dealing damage with my abilites. i peel , engage and mostly help my teammates.
but as i heard from my mage support main friends, the reason behind focusing on dealing damage is their adcs are just keep farming or not reacting when theres an engage on them or when there is a big trade. they are sharing their experience of ''being alone in the botlane''
also no hate but i never seen a mage support which is not trying to collect most of the kills and become the carry. maybe its the mindset maybe its something else. but literally cant imagine a duo like xerath and draven, tho it happens.
this is a complicated loop.
so my advice is you dont have to instalock ap mages to win the game.
Yeah it's a bizarre shift where people would rather play a "sub DPS" in case their adc fails but in the case you're playing a "carry support" you're rarely going to get ahead in kills and you aren't going to be farming. That and if you sell support items and go damage then your team doesn't have someone to get vision on the map. I think the only exception to this is pyke because his kit was literally designed to make him a backup carry while still having high utility and giving gold to his team. Senna too.
@@Im_TheNoodle I think Ashe works too because the utility she brings from the slow on her passive, her ult and vision with hawkshot
@@mindkrystal1982 yes! Ashe is actually a pretty good exception to this since she has a lot of utility on low cool downs and her damage is pretty low compared to other sub DPS champs. I would definitely prefer Ashe support over something like miss fortune or twitch.
when i play mage supports (specifically damage oriented ones) ill gladly hand my adc free kills provided i'm playing well and they have the brains to take them; my main goal is to be damaging the other adc/sup as much as i can to reduce lane pressure and let my adc free farm. so i’m mostly poking, but at the same time if i hit a lux q or something and my r is up i’m smashing that shit yk? ks if nothing else
i loove enchanters when i know i'll have a decent adc, it's just easier to feed kills to low elo adcs when u have more damage in your kit
@@chuuli mhmhm understandable, since i have draven otp duo i dont play lux or something like it thats why
I think "most important role of the game" really depend on some stuff, it may be my biased opinion as a main mid laner, but except if your jungle is ganking the whole early game or did the objectives, you can't say its the most important role, it has it's value for farming for later, but the most important basically is who is helping the team the most and very often, mid and sup are the ones the game is around, by leading everyone, sending pressure to other lanes by ganks and even starting objectives to a point that the jungle HAS to go, even if late because he wouldn't go alone, in the theory the jungle may look the central and most important role of the game, but in pratice I really don't think it's that often, if a jungle who did 0 or lost the only dragon that tried to do and did like 2 ganks is the important role of the game because he "will carry late game", why is not the adc the most important role? Why the top 8/1 is not the most important? He will be a whole boss battle to the enemies, why is the mid who destroyed 4 towers and pushed 2 lanes not the most important? Why is the support who helped everything else not important? Sometimes it feels like to me, that "main character syndrome" people tell that mid laners have has went to jungle as some type of copium mechanism, I get that it's hard to be a jungle, but its not easy for supports too, its not easy for adcs, its not easy even for mids and tops
Jungle definitely used to be higher impact as well but riot has really plunged the role into a farming play style that falls behind if it slips up which is unfortunate. Adc is in a terrible position this season too and honestly hasn't been too impactful for a while. With all the recent changes a lot of pressure comes from mid, support and top and everyone wants to blame jungle when they lose lane. It's a lot of push and pull and at the end of the day it is still a team game and every role matters and being able to solo carry a game is something that just isn't likely to happen if the other players can't pull together.
bro. Great video. Had to sub to you . I really hope you get the views you need. I would like to see more of your content.
I appreciate it!
Great video
I think something you could go over is the rate you would actually get the role you want aka autofill rates
Yes that will definitely be a topic in another video.
I'd like to see a "real" version of this video. This took an extremely informative lens, and I think it'd be pretty amusing to see a video full of "hot takes" on roles.
Aye aye captain. I'll make it happen 🫡
@@Im_TheNoodle Thank you for replying omg! And it was just a suggestion, there's 0 pressure to make it! Happy Holidays^^!
@@geraltofriftia happy holidays to you as well! I definitely plan on doing a satire version of this for funsies so stay posted for that. I'm always happy to hear suggestions, it gives me more incentive.
@@Im_TheNoodle I've subbed, so I'll get the notif
As jungle Main in Gold-Emerald elo, just mute all, and Powerfarm. If You see enemy jungler ganking your bot, when You are on top side, end your camp and go insta his top side jungle, take herald if he stay, clear everything, go on your side again, clear what you left, go bot side, clear everything what stay in this side, check hp enemy bot side, if they are low, gank even withot your botlane, reset. You stack your smite? Now play proactive for team, or whatever, You still can play other side of enemy jungler and take everything what is free. 😊
Persobally, the only cons to mid are that it's the least reliable to get in champ select, and that it's such a cool role the devs consistently nerf it at a fundamental level
I know this vid is for beginners, so its simplified to the max but some of the takes are really wild
Cult of the lamb music mmmm
I would recommend to Main the Spectator. Usually ist the most fun😅
i literally main yuumi because i want to watch an interactive video
My pet peeve as a Jungler Main (Supp Main too) is when laners ping me for assist literally 2-3 mins into the game. Bro, 3 mins is the fastest you usually get for junglers like Fiddlesticks but the rest finishes almost exactly at scuttle spawn at 3:30. Rarely anyone would 3 camp clear gank unless they're confident they can get a kill. I know you're having a hard time in lane, but that's your problem. If I don't get a full clear and my gank doesn't work then we're both behind. And if we both die, your enemy laner is now 2/0/0.
dont you love when you start top and your top laner asks for gank as your crossing map :D
@@AC-vm1in Happens from time to time. Although it really happens more often when I play flex/norms with friends and my random allies are low elo. Especially when they're trying out a new champ and get counter picked.
Jungle ganking is like shoving it, know when to hit and when the enemy is near death know when to pull out😂
as a support main, i suggest starting support enchanter, then a picker and try some other champs, after learning the basics and how the game works at broad, try other lanes, sometimes me and a group of friends decide to have a "Jungler Support" where when the mid game starts and the jungler is ganking/doing jungle/invading, i leave bot and go help other roles (usually the worst performing ones) and gank, help with jungle and objectives, its strange, but a neeko as a jungler support can piss off the entire team, assassins and mages are gods to that, but other slower champions are neigh impossible to help, i also like to go Seraphine and if bot is stable, gank mid and "ward rat" everything, one game i had 300 points on vision for how many i had, its one of the best roles for starting out and have some flexibility with a good amount of impact low skill floor but not a very high skill ceiling
Yeah a lot of times supports will just pocket whoever is most fed which makes sense mid to late game. And it can be fun!
@@Im_TheNoodle Not a fan of pocketing, i played way too much Medic and mercy
@@EcoSignori-wj1fi loooool. The pain carries over from every game 😭
Always a support ⛑️⛑️
Hearing mid is more counterpickable than top lane is wild to me
like the song from the cult of the lamb
Great game with a great soundtrack!
Thank you. That was useful. I like mid and sup with this discribe. 😅
The only note about maining ADC that I think you should have mentioned:
Mechanically, yes, ADCs are 'easy'.
But to be good at adc you NEED to be good at kiting. Which in and of itself can be a really hard mechanic. So adc as a ROLE is harder than it first appears. (Yes. I hate all the damn 'you just right click it's so easy' mentality that exists. There's so much more to it)
As someone who decided to try alot of ADCs I can say, it's hard to learn how to kite properly. But doesn't change nothing on the fact that BT, IE, shieldbow tristana shouldn't be able to jump on top of 7/0 Zoe who got 50CS more, is few items up, and just right click her to death. (Ye I may be a bit mad after that one game, but it is what it is.)
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Stuff like that is a bit more of a fringe case, and also, I'm talking general power levels overall and adcs with a more 'typical' adc playstyle.
Tristana is designed more like a hybrtid ADC/Assassin (before Samira and Nilah existed), where she's meant to jump in, burst, get out. So that's WHY she's able to do what you described more than...most other ADCs. I cant tell you how many games I've been 7/0, kiting about as well as I can...but the 2/5 tank top laner just takes 0 damage and can stay on top of me and do more damage to me than I can to him so I just...lose. It's not a fun feeling.
I get that the whole...getting bursted 100-0 isn't fun, but ADCs are FAR from the only characters that can do that (and in my experience, do it less so than most others. We're just as feast or famine as assassins, but with items that take longer to spike. So if the game hasnt gone on long enough). Zoe can too. The entire game has just become WAY too burst heavy. I miss back when the game wasnt "who blinked first" and it actually mattered if you knew how to stay alive in a more sustained fight.
@@0MidnighttheDragon0 I know Trist is ADC/Assassin. But man I was mad, I'm also someone who plays mage who totally ain't assassin in disguise too. The only difference is I have to hit 2 skillshots, she just rightclicks and presses E.
But it's mostly play bruiser/tank or get deleted by everything in the game right now.
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yea but most adcs aren't Trist as far as how easy it is for them to get their damage off.
but yea the game is just far too deep into "are you a tank? congratz, make sure you dont blink first"
I dont fully agree with the support part:
Pro/Con 1 - Many games are decided by whose team has the best supp, as they can act as a 2nd jungler while being bot when needed. They also have the most power to control vision, which gives their team a direct advantage.
Con 3 - Although supps are dependent on the adc (to some extent), adcs are worse is this: they cant recall as they please, because they have to farm, and they cant roam frequently to help other lanes. A good support assesses the lane to then decide if they wanna mainly help the adc or mainly help the other laners (never only doing 1 of these).
i should main toplane because garen xin zhao and yasou were top at the time i started. they looked fun and looked like something i could enjoy. camille came shortly after and im still enjoying that champ. please listen to your heart. YES DRAVEN BIG DICC BUT IF YOU DONT LIKE TO PLAY HIM, YOU WONT ENJOY THAT
I love playing bruisers in baron lane and tanky supports. I don't really care if I typically don't inflict huge amounts of damage, I just want champions with high utility and can take damage so I don't die quickly in team fights
I truly believe you did supports dirty here, because on most elo (except maybe if you are completely new to League) supports can be actually just almost as impactful as jungle role. Being majorly not so micro intensive role, support diff is made by being in the right place at the right time and understanding/being able to see these opportunities. Similar to jg, supports can carry their whole team early to mid game by making the correct plays on the map, and saying that you have to be stuck on the botlane with your adc is simplifying this role too much.
I play all roles but i've been lately been narrowing my champion choices so i do not lose my lane knowledge too much.
Top: Rumble, Ornn
Jungle: Kha'Zix
Mid: Ryze
ADC: Samira (I can't play any adc now)
Support: basically what the adc demands for.
I've been leaning to top nowadays because i want to master rumble
Rumble is super fun to play too. My go to for top is kennen. Kinda similar with their super ults, play safe laning phase and pop off in team fights.
I'm a toplaner that is dabbling in jungle. I like jungle more than toplane, but I'm having trouble picking between the two. I started top, then went to jungle. I'm conflicted on which one I want to pick
No harm in doing both! You could always use one as a backup for flex picking too, especially if your team needs a strong jungler. I personally think I would pick jungle because I feel like it's more active and less one sided. That and I like the champion selection more.
@@Im_TheNoodle how would you suggest getting better at diana for jungle, and darius top?
@@ScarOfTheDialect234 for Darius I would read up on his counters, maybe check a guide on reddit or mobafire. I'm sure there are paragraphs written about him somewhere, that and check all is bad matchups and hard counters and learn WHY they counter him. Like malphite for example is really good against him cause he has a strong poke tool that also keeps him out of darius' range and with the help of ganks he can destroy your lane and then roam to uot for his team. Jungle is a little tricky, of course do some reading on good jungle patching for Diana, she doesn't have super strong early ganks since her ult is her only real cc. A lot of her gameplay revolves around picking the right time to engage and picking fights you know you can win. Getting set back in jungle is a huge pain but her ult can make up for it if used well for fights. Theres tons of guides available on tons of sites just do a little digging and theres plenty of info to learn from. And it never hurts to have a few different champions you can fall back on. Maokai is a total freelo champion that is quite honestly hard to mess up so he's always a strong backup pick in games where you think you might struggle as Diana.
I totally disagree with Supports having a small impact on the game. They are the second most important role after the jungler. A support must ward the dragon baron herald one minute before they spawn, roam and change the luck on the team fights, also building situational, identify who is the enemy carry and build and play against him. Also they have to keep save the waves and receive damage so they Don't get into tower before the adc comes back. The carry is the mvp not necessarily the adc. If a support does not do anything of this, you lose the game or have to try hard like crazy to win. I can't even tell how many games I lost because the SUPP does not wards properly
100% agree
But this will sadly never be recognised and we shall be destined for eternal suffering by our adcs and teams for just blaming us 😂
And all that work can go down the drain if you have an adc that plays a tower back lol. I have given up Leona for the most part because plying any engage support is useless if the adc won’t step up.
Me and my buddy run sylas, lux bottom. Really hard to face a champion duo with high one shot ability and a root so you can’t escape
I started to main top and bot lane i used to main jungle but at the end i would just get flamed for "doing my job wrong"
I feel like its very reductive to call support a low impact and simple role. Its not usually flashy, but it still takes a lot of awareness and position to pilot the role well and the difference between a great support and a 'just doing their job' support is huge. Feels especially funny coming from an adc main (which i am too)
is that cult of the lamb music in the background?????
Sure is!
The only thing I disagree with is where your powerpoint said little need for fundamentals (unless its referring to mechanical fundamentals)
9:46 min.: This Kaisa have what i call: "Adc Sickness"
You leave as a support 1 second the Lane to drop a ward to protect your baby form getting ganked and the full life adc dies in this time because she steps vorward.
Jungle does the most work
Top counterpicking is more punishing than mid counters
playing league for 2 months now... it's sad that u didn't upload this video 2 months ago xd
Well hey it's never too late to change roles 😅
@@Im_TheNoodlenah i love the chosen role so much, it‘s only the info about all the responsibilities of other roles
"support players have easy itempaths" meanwhile me palying janna, using 4 different runepages depending on matchup, 3 different mythic items depending on matchup and the rest still varriates from game to game
Only time I play support I play akali and I get praised I would definitely recommend if u play akali mid or top
i prefer to be a mid laner, because zed says do not fear with shrouded path
Why am i here as if i dont already have 300 warwick top games on comp this season
im playing this shit since 2015, main jg since 2016, and dude being a jg in low elo(emerald and below) is stressful as hell, its like play chess, but your pieces dont listen
Question, if jungle is one of the least mechanically demanding rolls why do players run mechanically demanding champions like lee sin, rengar, nidalee, elise and even zed
Bc he’s talking out his ass. But on a serious note I’m guessing he says this because you are not constantly vs another player and it’s pretty simple to kill camps. I think this video is mostly catered towards new players so like bronze and below and I guess for a new player the basic ideas of jungle are the quickest to learn. Although I definitely don’t think jungle lacks “fundamentals” maybe lane fundamentals?
Yes essentially this. No I don't think juggle champions are just easy by default that wouldn't be fair to say. I am very much catering more towards newer or less experienced players and when it comes to killing jungle camps it isn't mechanically demanding. Obviously there's a ton of room to learn how to properly leash camps and learn gank paths as well as mastering your champion in order to perform well in team fights. While jungle has a lot of high skill cap champions like the ones you mentioned it also has a fair amount of beginner friendly ones. Again none of this is to bash anyone's roles or make anyone feel bad about their main role.
I play support so I don't have to worry about farming. I can just sit back, relax and poke my opponents so they leave my adc alone to farm in peace. Then I buy 4 damage items and boots and blow people up in the mid to late game XD
making my daughter wait at the school for me to pick her up because I CANNOT miss the newest Noodle upload. Great stuff!
cringe comment, making your daughter wait at the school? come on man, you can do better
@@MalakMalak-tw1rc hey this is his daughter. I waited for 3 hours and got bullied by some boys at school the whole time :(
@@MalakMalak-tw1rchey this is his daughters bully. I bullied her for the whole 3 hours while she waited😀
Played top lane before, (Jax, voli, yone) and how I'm mostly playing supp panth and boy oh boy I'ma be hard carrying going 4 S back to back
im a vayne adc main and i feel so sorry for the enemy adc
Don't feel bad for the other ADC, feel bad for the enemy tank, man vayne is fucking evil. You can be a full armor Cho Gath with 14 stacks and 6k+ HP, Vayne still kills you with about 6 basic attacks its nuts 😭
Rift spawns at 8 minutes not 10
nuh uh top is the one who is counterpicked the most
Saying "support is not important" is like saying "you don't need your parents" when you barely finished kindergarden.
ADC main moment, thinking their support is just a plus, and not your whole early game
I'm a Support main actualy. I have LVL 7 mastery with 10 support champions, with Lulu, Lux, Janna, leona and Rakan beeing a few of them. I love support role, cus I'm garbage at last hitting the minions, and "all I have to do" is make sure the ADC dosn't die all that often.
Sure the flame is bad sometimes, but I just mute the player and carry on with the game the best I can.
Janna is my main star champion for now, but I'm working towards becoming more active with engade supports.
And personaly I can say I have been the MVP in alot of games, some times I do get the credit for it, but other times they say "ADC diff!" And I'm like...Gee i wounder why?! XD But I digress.
I became an ADC main because I got tired of my adcs feeding
"Fine, I'll do it myself." Chad mentality
How much Lp do you have? Saying a support has low impact on a game could not be further from the truth. Support has more impact than an adc, especially early. Support also has to understand wave control and should actively be helping with it as well as not giving up cs for free to the enemy adc. Just knowing where to position can change the bot lane outcome. Supports also should be starting the fights bot but if the miss your vulnerable. Lots of people dont understand the responsibility of support, but trust me.. having a good support can literally win you the game. This is why adc is the hardest roll in low elo and doesn't get better until about D1.
Is there a specific role you'd suggest for newer players?
I guess it depends on what you're familiar with in other multiplayer games but really whatever lane you're drawn to most. If you have a friend or friends to play with I would suggest supporting them and letting them guide you through the game or vice versa. That or if your friend can jungle then you could try top or mid and take their advice during the game. Otherwise I think your champion choice is pretty important, just try to look for champions that are fairly simple or "beginner friendly" and learn whatever role you want at your own pace.
I think i would recommend start with top - you will learn best 1st phase of the game (laneing) in its core - like minions lasthits trades etc, it can be punishing ( enemy gets far ahead and you wont do much rest of the game but you will learn qiucker bc it will be eazyer to find mistakes you made alone, also second role try support bc you need now to learn how to play with others and it will halp with not being stuck in top island mindset whole game,than if u feel lil confident in core mehanics in top start trying mid - its added more ganks and you are able to put more preassure on map while u need to still menage your lane like top - than you can try with adc and lastly jungler - when u understand how team works u can try to be the helper&commander(jg)
Also i dont play much bot but i think that supp can be harder in the long run (eazy at start you can treat the role like "support" but good supp is also like jungler with keeping eye on whole team and sometimes leading it
Bot lane trade in laning phase is 80% support and 20% adc imo
Support early game > adc early game
I can agree with that.
10:46 min.: I say it so: The item thing depents at the Champ that you play. Sera has MANY items form that she can choice and im a bit more rooming person. If you make good rooms as a support you make insanely impact at the games ^^
A good played support with good wards and sutch things can make HUGE impacts if you wants to.
Clear if you want you can stick by your adc and chill this is also allways a option. This love i form my role. If i wants to be the driver of the game i play a activ role. If i wants to chill and relax i stick with adc ^^ (or just picks yummi lul xD)
11:06 min.: Zyra, Lux and Brand would see this difrend xD
Also Seraphine ^^
But yeah you dont be the ape that one shots everything thats true.
But you can if you play if smart has a HUGE impact at games ^^
11:36 min.: Point 2 and 1 counters eatch outher. Play you now dmg supports or not? XD
And i say it so: Sera can do both ^^
So for me count both not ^^
I would like to add an amendment to TOP. It is the worst lane for counterpicking. Midlane Counter does not matter, since they get carried off the backs of SUP/JNG. In Toplane, if you don't have the proper pick, you basically sit around, doing NOTHING all game.
As a fellow ADC Main, we're gladly not in the end-times of S10/S11. That was the worst time to play the game for us. Either Mages were the best Champs ever, or Assassins were.