ROGER WATERS INTERVIEW: 'WELCOME TO THE MACHINE', 'HAVE A CIGAR' & HATING LARGE AUDIENCES IN 1974
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In 2011, I interviewed the Pink Floyd legend Roger Waters about the making and meaning of the album 'Wish You Were Here' including the classic tracks 'Welcome to the Machine' and 'Have a Cigar'.
Roger also comments on how he was alienated from large audiences in 1974, in contrast to today.
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I certainly wouldn't ask Roger for his autograph if I ever met him. I however wouldn't mind sitting down and having a chat with him. Not as a fan (though I love his music), but as a human being to another human being. Roger is someone who cares about the world, and is quite a deep person.
I have a huge amount of respect for Roger for standing up for what is right.
I've met Morrissey and Dylan and barely managed to blurt out Thank You! 🤣
@@DaveSCameron lol. Starstruck maybe. Just got to remember that despite reputation and all that, they are just human beings trying to navigate their way through this form of time travel that we know as life.
Why does Morrissey seem to sing almost the same with each song yet still sounds so good? lol.
And Dylan, my dad has seen Dylan play a number of times over the years since the 60's including the tea in the park thing in hyde park in the late 90's and has always said that sometimes Dylan is great and other times just isn't in the mood. They are just human beings just like you and me, despite whatever talents and musical genius they may have. And at the end of the day whoever they meet, they long for just meeting genuine people who will not idiolise them because lets face it after all these decades it gets boring lol
Roger is 100% honest in person and doesn't play Their Game. You ask a good question you'll get a good answer because he speaks truth and is intelligent.
@@jboard3094 That's a great memory to have. I guess a memory made more even meaningful after his untimely passing.
I think a lot of people say that, but you never really know. Media creates these people and you never really know how you will react til it happens. There is SO much media hype about their 'greatness' that people do forget they are just regular people. Now that we're older I'd like to think that kind of thing wouldn't happen. At the Marc Maron interview he says his neighbour talked to Roger for twenty minutes about gardening and later marc had to tell him who it was. Pink Floyd was THAT good at hiding hteir faces.
Roger at least figured out early that most of the people talking about how great he is were just paid to do so, but he seems to have had a healthy ego from the get go, even stories from the sixties I've seen with friends of his will say he was basically just as you see him.
Thats the great thing about now, there is good music, its harder to find but we seem to have gotten over that corporate controlled notion of who is 'great' and who isn't.
Love Roger, absolutely awesome songwriter ♥️
Can only thank Roger Waters, music became something intensely powerful when I was young and this man's work spoke to me in our language, The Final Cut for example cuts deep and that's all from this man's talent. 🇬🇧👋💙
Love Roger ❤
The greatest musical tragedy was Roger leaving Pink Floyd, it was never the same for any of them again...
So true my friend so true.
Roger you are amazing 😊
Pure genius Roger waters imo
Two Suns in the Sunset ❤
@@DaveSCameron One of many great songs.
I love Roger Waters, I could listen to him for hours, he does remind me of the cranky guy on the bus but I love him never the less. Top interview as per John.
cheers!
Great comment. It says so much about OUR culture and the culture of SOMEBODY bitching and moaning on social media that there would be huge arguments with people saying how Roger used to hate how the audience behaved and now accepts and Roger basically sums it up with "Times change". Oh, ok, well, moving on. I think it does mask the point that he likes CONTROL of the audience. If they are singing or whatever THAT is ok, as long as its not whooping and shouting and getting drunk and screaming "Play money". So maybe times haven't changed as much as he thinks.
So yeah, very good talker and doesn't mince words, which is nice. But as you say, reminds me of cranky old guy on the street "hey you kids, stop playing on my lawn" and then the next day "what, my lawn not good enough for you kids!" But the interviewer does add a lot, he talks longer on Rogan show and WTF but they are more rambling and not so pointed as these interviews.
It’s the jagged edges of those songs that make Wish You Were Here both unique to the catalogue and provide some emphasis on what would come later. What makes WYWH their greatest album to me in a sense because it is both transitionary and deeply heart felt, yet is also as musically rich in giving these statements more weight then if they were just a simple four piece that bangs it out. Bands can and have made an art of bashing it out. They made an art of reflection.
Thanks for all your great interviews with all the Floyd members, they will stand the test of time, just like their music.
Thanks Peter. Much appreciated!
Based.
Many thanks for this john...lovely insight from a relaxed roger
Cheers!
Wonderful interview as usual. I can relate on how the years gives you insight on many matters.
One of the greatest Atheists of all time. No need for Mythology or Superstition in his thought process. Pure reality.
Great interview. Roger can talk and he does it well.
4:40, 8:00 - Roger! massive respect to you!
This is the most attractive he has been.
Roger is an artist in the purest sense of the word. Plus a real time anthropologist
Good talk.
Roger didn’t sing “Have a cigar” right? Roy Harper sang it on their record.
Correct
@@GolfTool thank you
Yes, which ultimately fractured Waters relationship with Harper.
" Now you're lost in a haze of alcohol soft middle age, The pie in the sky is the sky turned out to be miles too high, And you hide, hide, hide, behind Paranoid Eyes.." ❤
I use to question Roger’s eccentric views, but I wasn’t being fair and actually not listening with an open heart. The man is all about humanity and the preservation of it. How could I be so disgruntled and take sides when I never listened to his sensibilities. Sorry Roger, I’m so sorry for my disregard for rational thought. I really think you and I could be good friends . Why does it take a lifetime to say I’m sorry and listen?
back then - behavior by many in the audience at large shows was abhorrent - the fireworks were a constant at ALL shows - in 1977 I saw Aerosmith walk off stage due to them - and these were not just noisy firecrackers - these were M-80 small explosives - kids sometimes lost fingers if they went off in their hands - glass bottles getting tossed long distances and hitting people in the head - in the arena where I saw most of my shows - the now demolished "Capital Centre" near Wash. D.C. - bad fights inside & outside the venue - muggings in the parking lot - older kids taking tickets - money - weed - off of younger kids - in 1980 at the Black Sabbath - Blue Öyster Cult show - so many kids were practically unconscious from drugs & alcohol that they were laying them out on blankets on the main concourse level - the venue staff was clearly overwhelmed and had no clue how to deal with such a huge problem - I'm sure some of those kids ended up in hospitals that night ..
Ten years sure made a difference to america didn't it.
Cleaning up "the other side of the party" is a bit like shaking hands with a ghost of Nietzsche, or hearing GG Allin attempt to somehow "sing" _Its A Small World_ without irony or sarcasm.
_A semi-tangential ramble:_
As a species we're very good at turning millions of ourselves into billions... but beyond a threshold of 5 billion or so, we sort of don't know what to do with ourselves. Most of us, don't, anyway ( eg "hey, what's on netflix tonight??" ). The "betters" in "high" places see fit to decide once in a while that they'd be better off to thin the populations than to leave us to be of our own accord.
War was no less common in pre-industrial times, but wars lasting years involving millions of people _were unknown._ There were not the masses of mouths to feed in the billions until recent centuries, due to wide and rapid use of industrialized fertilizers and pesticides.
so....
Most of the kids were (and still are) barely aware of the ramifications about what they're doing to each other.
Much of this catastrophe can be attributed to industrialization and commerce making it possible to load yourself up on sugar and other stimulants without having to tend or harvest any of the source material yourself. One can even live this way (millions have) for a time on food stamps/unemployment if one is so "inclined" to (...until suddenly one can't).
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Hi John, any chance of the Full Mick Rock interview(s)
Hmmm… not sure. I’ll do some digging into hard drives .
Is there more to this interview please?
Yes. Look at my channel for waters on politics of WYWH
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES thanks very much for that I was wondering if you are considering posting up the entire interview..?
@@BeesWaxMinder no sorry. It has music which is a problem re rights
@@JOHNEDGINTONDOCUMENTARIES fair enough👍
@@BeesWaxMinder You know on torrents music isn't a problem, wink wink.
I agree. "Welcome to the Machine" was pretty good. Was it good enough to withstand being stretched into a 2-lp set? Hell, no.
Many examples of fillers but I prefer to enjoy the abundance of classics ❤
that track is a track that sounds like nothing before or since its a peice of obscure futuristic sound that is genius
Pure unadulterated icon.
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The name of the Gameboy is Nintendo.
When Roger starts talking about TV and the BBC at the end. I wouldn't know.
I stopped watching all television well over 15 years ago and am so glad I shut myself off from all that brainwashing BS.
I think he did too, thats why he says that about cricket. Apart from older people I think MOST people stopped paying attention. However, as bad as it is, when people get into their social media news bubble, its usually far worse.
@@mikearchibald744 Yeah I don't do social media lol. This is about as close as I get to it. I used to love having a laugh in chat rooms and that, but they were nothing like fakebook and twitter etc. I can't stand propaganda and lies, and most people don't realise they are being lied to and being sold a fake version of reality. It's sad really.
@@bigbasil1908 It is, but you have to get information from SOMEWHERE.
Best interview with Roger Waters I've seen. He is so right about advertising.
The reason why you're here - 10:12. Now with added context.
He says “in a country as rich as this”, was he referring to the UK, US or another country ?
US
the usa
hes lived thare since the 80s
Roger - You've got really nice t1ts
Dave - Every word demonstrably true.
I don't agree with everything Roger Waters says (e.g., his weird denial of the Chinese extermination of the Uighurs), but the world would be a far better place if we had more people like him.
Hi Tippi hope you good. You really need to get out of your echo chamber. The fake accusations against the CCP have been thoroughly debunked.
@@martinkoconnor1893 care to share your criteria for distinguishing the true from the fake?
@@shaft9000 Hey hope you good. For a start both UK and U.S. relied heavily on Adrian Zenz dodgy research and there have been literally dozens of independent studies that show the exact opposite. China has tried to help the Uyghur tradition to continue alongside integration within China
Uh, not sure where poeple are getting their information from. "Extermination" is a bit much, there is no MURDERING of Uighers that I've heard. Uighers are muslims, and the Chinese government has clamped down on ALL religions. Mosques are destroyed like churches. House churches are often raided, but Uighers are treated much like Canada and the US treat first nations people.
I"m in Canada so its ironic that the conservative party made a big deal to call their treatment of Uighers a 'genocide', which technically you CAN call that because the United Nations now considers the attempt to eradicate a CULTURE as being genocide, not just the killing of people.
So the irony is that the conservative party in canada is most adamant that first nations people are NOT genocidally treated, when they are over populated in the prison system and in social services where children are still taken from parents.
So as you see its not TERRIBLY complex, but its more complex than just "china is exterminating uighers". They are not killing them, they certainly are 'attacking' the culture and denying their indepedance, just like Tibet.
I heard ONE interview where Roger makes a statement which is wrong, and then I saw in his next interview that he corrected it, which you certainly don't find a lot of people doing.
I agree with his politics, I don't agree with how he goes about his messaging, but then its a free world as far as taht goes and he's under no obligation to do what I think he should, but then I dont' really get my politics informed by millionaire rock stars.
Roger, the creative genius of Pink Floyd. Thanks so much for uploading this priceless interview! I love how he said that he prefers Latin American audiences better. We're certainly always so cheerful and really get involved into what's going on!
My pleasure !
Just as he was saying "days of our lives are spent listenign to this nonsense" youtube cut away for a Reese's commercial.
I wish the boys of the Floyd had stopped in time in 1970. They were perfect then.
You and all the other hipsters
I love Roger to bits, but his politics im not so sure about.
Who cares what you think 😂
@@Swat-ed5bt Dullit, google it.
I kinda feel sorry for the guy - Took his toys and went home. Cut himself off and lived out the rest of his days as a self righteous, angry, bitter old man.
He did? Right now that sounds more like Dave. Roger is out there touring all the time, doing interviews, married his hot limo driver to keep the bed warm and is working on the rights of palestinians and in the anti war moviement.
He's redone Dark Side and is now redoing other old tracks, he put out an album at the same time as Endless River, but all new stuff.
I wouldn't want to be him with all his money, in fact I'd rather be collecting coke tins into my dotage, but thats true of any of these celebrity musicians we pay way too much attention to.
@@mikearchibald744he also supports the Palestinian mindset; one hell bent on the genocide of every Jew "from the river to the sea."
He is no humanitarian.
@@roydagger Dude, keep up. The US is dropping FOOD into Gaza because they are starving. Israel just murdered 100 palestinians in line for aide. THousands in Israel are protesting for Netanyahu to resign.
So thats LITERALLY like saying the nazi's feared for their lives from jews.
I dont think he knows what hes talking about when it comes to politics
Syd = Floyd
Tankie Boomer
Sticks and stones.
You sound like a nahtzee apologist
Didn't he shit all over the USSR and China on Amused to Death and some of his other work? (Rhetorical question. He did.)
Yes, he wrote some effective lyrics. He has a sort of Neanderthal look at times and his public statements underscore the connection to primitive man.
Sorry dude, but thats the dumbest comment on here. You have public statemesnts from 'primitive man' do you?
i ve said it so many times...i cant stand him...he destroyed one of the best bands ever with his bloody ego...i will never ever forgive him for that crime...
Rubbish, he's a genius behind all their blockbuster success. The rest of them came up with nothing of any value. Why should he prop them up?
@@oris247 really?!...really?!...what is the blockbuster he gave you after he left David's voice and both David's and Rick's sound?!...i write my music buddy...believe me, very often musicians make me look much more "genius" than what i really am...he definitely is a great composer-lyricist...but, he is a lousy singer and an insignificant bass player...end of fucking story for me...
i forgot Nick's drumming...sorry...very special sound also...
LOL, dude, relax. Without him we most certainly would not have Wish you were Here, Animals, adn the Wall. I could do without the Final Cut, but some like it. Yeah he had an ego, its pretty hard NOT to have an ego when you have that kind of success.
@@mikearchibald744 i am very relaxed...please read my second comment...thank you...dude...