What a great video! I’ve read many times that the 70/70 recommendation is outdated but no explanation why. Not only did you explain why, you explained why there’s no singular best RH value. Love your demonstrations too! You give me high school science teacher vibes 😊
What an excellent explanation! As an owner of an electric humidor its not all easy peasy lemon squeezy. The cigars are stored at 64.4 degrees which is great for long storage but in the summer it gets like 95 degrees outside and up to 77 or even more inside the house. This means when opening the humidor the warm air gets in and u will have instant condensation. This is very scary. Was having serious issues this summer and i am lucky my collection survived. U actually need a house AC to cool the room where u have the electric humidor in, but then u could used a normal humidor as the AC already cools it.
It is the best explanation I have seen about the relationship between temperature and humidity to keep my cigars in optimal conditions in the humidor. Great video. Thank you so much!
I typically try to keep the interior temperature of my humidor at around 65 degrees depending on the average air temperature of the house or room I store my cigars and tobacco in.. with my relative humidity fluctuating between 62rh and 69rh this insures that even though the hot summer months and the cold winter months my cigars will always stay fresh and mold free… we have all been taught over the years to keep our humidors set at an average temperature of around 70 degrees and a relative humidity of 70 and this is perfect for larger room sized humidors like at your local cigar shops, some shops in fact will have humidity levels much higher than 70rh and temperatures that will fluctuate throughout the day just to keep the moisture and heat in the cigar shops humidor while the cigars sit on display for purchase and for reasons such as higher customer volume at different hours of the days.. Iv found that my cigars stay fresher at around 65 degrees with a relative humidity of anywhere in between 62 and 68 and never exceeding 70 Rh or temperatures over 70 degrees.. it just seems redundant to store your cigars at the same temperatures and humidity levels that are perfect for mold growth and over saturation of humidity in your humidors.. it’s always best just to keep them in a cool place and try your best to keep your humidity and temperature under 70 at all costs.. mold can wreck your whole collection of cigars if you’re not careful about the temperature or your storage location.. its really not so much about humidity as it is temperature control and also allowing your humidor to breathe every so often is fundamental in preventing mold and moisture issues..
I think there‘s a few things to consider: First, using boveda packs does keep the relative humidity constant and not the absolute humidity,meaning there will still be more water in the air at higher temperatures. Second, while temperature changes seem to have quite some impact on how much water air can hold, be aware that the changes of how much water your cigars can hold might be totally different. In the end it‘s not the humidity of the air you want to control but the humidity of the cigars and most likely the changes of total water content at the same relative humidity and different temperatures are not proportional for air and the cigars. I assume that the ability of tobacco to hold a certain amount of water changes quite a bit less with temperature than it does for air meaning while the air holds quite a bit more water at higher temperatures the cigars likely will still be fine.
70/70 condition produce 78grains of moisture, which is "ideal"? So when temperature is 85F, RH should be at 43% in order to mimic 70/70 ideal moisture, is that suitable for the cigar?
So my apartment stays well above high 70s up to low to mid 80s constant and everywhere. What humidity level pack would you recommend me to get pls? I'd assume lower humidity level like around 65 or 62% since my apartment is consistantly relatively warm throughout the whole day, and even through out the whole year. But I'd really appreciate it if I could get any input from you cuz I'm a new comer to this whole cigar culture and I just bought my first cigar pack that I want to preserve to my best abilities and enjoy to my best abilities and circumstances. Thank you so much in advance. Btw, I'm in California so it's pretty warm throughout the whole year, and pretty dry throughout the whole year.
Thanks for the question. I would go with the 62% if your humidor is pretty tight. I spend quite a bit of time in California, and you are right, it does get very dry much of the year.
I have found that the lower my temprature goes the higher the humidity goes. And that's across the board in all of my humidors, I have 3 heating and cooling needones,
That makes sense, because if you are putting the same amount of moisture (grains of moisture) into the humidor, when the temperature goes down the RH will read higher even though the moisture is the same.
That's a challenge. A tightly sealed humidor like a food storage container with no humidity pack and keep them in the coolest area you have available. If it's a year-round concern and it works for your situation, there are wine-storage type humidors that control both temperature and humidity.
Hope my situations can help, im in indonesia. And i live beside the ocean. Humidity can reach to 80-85 in my apartments. The cheap way is tupperdor with boveda inside dark storage or buy cigar cooler (fridge). I use cooler now, the cost of boveda in longterm quite high (import stuff in indonesia is high)
@@pokpokpokkeee4917 if its tupperdor then its normal daily temp around 30°ish, but now i use coolerdor and i arrange it at 21° (if its too cold when you take it out the cigar will expand and crack because of the sudden hike temp)
What a great video! I’ve read many times that the 70/70 recommendation is outdated but no explanation why. Not only did you explain why, you explained why there’s no singular best RH value. Love your demonstrations too! You give me high school science teacher vibes 😊
I can’t believe I just now saw this. Very good video brother!
Appreciate it!
What an excellent explanation!
As an owner of an electric humidor its not all easy peasy lemon squeezy. The cigars are stored at 64.4 degrees which is great for long storage but in the summer it gets like 95 degrees outside and up to 77 or even more inside the house.
This means when opening the humidor the warm air gets in and u will have instant condensation. This is very scary. Was having serious issues this summer and i am lucky my collection survived. U actually need a house AC to cool the room where u have the electric humidor in, but then u could used a normal humidor as the AC already cools it.
It is the best explanation I have seen about the relationship between temperature and humidity to keep my cigars in optimal conditions in the humidor. Great video. Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
I typically try to keep the interior temperature of my humidor at around 65 degrees depending on the average air temperature of the house or room I store my cigars and tobacco in.. with my relative humidity fluctuating between 62rh and 69rh this insures that even though the hot summer months and the cold winter months my cigars will always stay fresh and mold free… we have all been taught over the years to keep our humidors set at an average temperature of around 70 degrees and a relative humidity of 70 and this is perfect for larger room sized humidors like at your local cigar shops, some shops in fact will have humidity levels much higher than 70rh and temperatures that will fluctuate throughout the day just to keep the moisture and heat in the cigar shops humidor while the cigars sit on display for purchase and for reasons such as higher customer volume at different hours of the days.. Iv found that my cigars stay fresher at around 65 degrees with a relative humidity of anywhere in between 62 and 68 and never exceeding 70 Rh or temperatures over 70 degrees.. it just seems redundant to store your cigars at the same temperatures and humidity levels that are perfect for mold growth and over saturation of humidity in your humidors.. it’s always best just to keep them in a cool place and try your best to keep your humidity and temperature under 70 at all costs.. mold can wreck your whole collection of cigars if you’re not careful about the temperature or your storage location.. its really not so much about humidity as it is temperature control and also allowing your humidor to breathe every so often is fundamental in preventing mold and moisture issues..
I agree with title.. I need some of the horticulture 58% ?? Boveda packs
Great illustration of humidity and impact of temperature!
Thank you very much!
Straight forward easy to follow and important information as well. Just enough touch of humor. 👍 and subscribed!
Thanks!
I think there‘s a few things to consider: First, using boveda packs does keep the relative humidity constant and not the absolute humidity,meaning there will still be more water in the air at higher temperatures. Second, while temperature changes seem to have quite some impact on how much water air can hold, be aware that the changes of how much water your cigars can hold might be totally different. In the end it‘s not the humidity of the air you want to control but the humidity of the cigars and most likely the changes of total water content at the same relative humidity and different temperatures are not proportional for air and the cigars. I assume that the ability of tobacco to hold a certain amount of water changes quite a bit less with temperature than it does for air meaning while the air holds quite a bit more water at higher temperatures the cigars likely will still be fine.
Thanks very much for your comment! Your point about the actual humidity in the cigars is a great one.
70/70 condition produce 78grains of moisture, which is "ideal"?
So when temperature is 85F, RH should be at 43% in order to mimic 70/70 ideal moisture, is that suitable for the cigar?
Thanks bud 🤜🏻🤛🏻
I just got a newair 250 count humidor today..
What celsius temperature would you suggest bud?
Congrats on the new humidor! I'd shoot for 19.5 to 21 Celsius
@@cigarsandotherdudestuffthanks bud 🤜🏻🤛🏻
65-67 RH for my cigars & it’s perfect.
That's great. I agree, keeping 65-67% works really well.
@@cigarsandotherdudestuff Yeah I just like the strength, flavors, & burn I get out of my sticks @ that RH%.
So my apartment stays well above high 70s up to low to mid 80s constant and everywhere.
What humidity level pack would you recommend me to get pls?
I'd assume lower humidity level like around 65 or 62% since my apartment is consistantly relatively warm throughout the whole day, and even through out the whole year.
But I'd really appreciate it if I could get any input from you cuz I'm a new comer to this whole cigar culture and I just bought my first cigar pack that I want to preserve to my best abilities and enjoy to my best abilities and circumstances.
Thank you so much in advance.
Btw, I'm in California so it's pretty warm throughout the whole year, and pretty dry throughout the whole year.
Thanks for the question. I would go with the 62% if your humidor is pretty tight. I spend quite a bit of time in California, and you are right, it does get very dry much of the year.
I have found that the lower my temprature goes the higher the humidity goes. And that's across the board in all of my humidors, I have 3 heating and cooling needones,
That makes sense, because if you are putting the same amount of moisture (grains of moisture) into the humidor, when the temperature goes down the RH will read higher even though the moisture is the same.
I live in the south of France it’s normally pretty hot the humidity often can got up to 80% what do you recommend for my cigars ? Thanks good day
That's a challenge. A tightly sealed humidor like a food storage container with no humidity pack and keep them in the coolest area you have available. If it's a year-round concern and it works for your situation, there are wine-storage type humidors that control both temperature and humidity.
Hope my situations can help, im in indonesia. And i live beside the ocean. Humidity can reach to 80-85 in my apartments. The cheap way is tupperdor with boveda inside dark storage or buy cigar cooler (fridge). I use cooler now, the cost of boveda in longterm quite high (import stuff in indonesia is high)
@@pornetswhat temperature is your tupperdor at?
@@pokpokpokkeee4917 if its tupperdor then its normal daily temp around 30°ish, but now i use coolerdor and i arrange it at 21° (if its too cold when you take it out the cigar will expand and crack because of the sudden hike temp)