Facemilling Fundamentals

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 32

  • @frankk8018
    @frankk8018 Год назад +15

    I know its an old video, but as someone new to a new "hobbiest" - I sure appreciate you taking the time to make this. Cheers

    • @donepearce
      @donepearce Год назад +1

      That would be "hobbyist". Hobbiest means something like the most hobby. Only it doesn't.

  • @phillhuddleston9445
    @phillhuddleston9445 Год назад +7

    Two things that could be improved upon, first mill in the other direction so the chips fly away from you and second lower the knee a small amount when returning to the starting point so you don't drag the inserts over the face of the part, this adds wear to the inserts and gives you a bad finish, also let the back end of the cutter clear the part before ending the cut or you will get the radius lines going in two different direction and the flatness will not be as good.

  • @sailingyemaya9781
    @sailingyemaya9781 9 месяцев назад +4

    You can put some time card paper in the vise to grip the part more if needed. This is a trick taught to me by my tool maker boss from Austria

    • @Machining-tutorials
      @Machining-tutorials  8 месяцев назад

      Nice! Ill add that to the arsenal of tricks.

    • @JohnStoever
      @JohnStoever 8 месяцев назад

      That works good when holding 2 pieces allegedly the same size.

  • @ESP-Collectibles
    @ESP-Collectibles Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for taking your time to show this

  • @ninalli
    @ninalli 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nice work and very informative. Very good education for us amateur engineers.

  • @marley589
    @marley589 Год назад +1

    One fundamental of face milling & most milling operations is to cut from right to left so the chips fly towards the machine and not towards the operator, colleagues and all over the rest of the shop floor. If you use the tangential milling approach, any thickness part edge can be cut with a huge cutter without vibration

  • @ninjaabcde
    @ninjaabcde Год назад +13

    Can you do a video about how to do the spindle speed and feed calculations for a facemill?

    • @sammerriman2331
      @sammerriman2331 Год назад +5

      Its the same equations as an endmill, you just treat each insert as a flute and you treat the total diameter as cutter diameter.
      rpm= (SFM(that inserts are rated for)x3.82)/diameter
      feed = rpm x chip load x # of flutes
      SFM and chip load for given insert can be found on manufacturers website. These #'s are for CNC machining, manual you'll need to drop the numbers quite a bit depending on machine and go by feel.

    • @surfnbird6480
      @surfnbird6480 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@sammerriman2331on a manual machine would you reduce by half so like 600rpm down to 300 or

    • @sammerriman2331
      @sammerriman2331 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@surfnbird6480 It depends on the machine and how rigid it is. The only thing I can say is manual machines are always going to be significantly lower rpms and half is a good starting point. Depending on the operation maybe more, you'd have to by feel and sound.

    • @surfnbird6480
      @surfnbird6480 11 месяцев назад

      @@sammerriman2331 thx wasn't expecting a response so fast.
      Got 10 insert 6in face mill running on a Cincinnati Gilbert boring machine face mill is bolted to spindle .
      Also I'm a sheet metal guy thrown into the machine shop so learning on the fly. So thx for info, will try and play around with it a bit just feel like I'm going through inserts fast but maybe it's normal

  • @pr00009
    @pr00009 2 года назад +3

    raising the knee is a new one for me. makes sense. a pretty knowledgable video

    • @andyvan5692
      @andyvan5692 Год назад +3

      YES, this is NOT a drill press, and a large cutter takes HEAVY cuts, so tighten everything down TIGHT, that is not moving during a cut, and with the quill up top there is less runout as the quill is collapsed fully, and you are raising on the solid column v ways, and their gibs, so a much more rigid and accurate depth adjust, as you are using a lead screw, not the rack of the quill.

    • @pr00009
      @pr00009 Год назад

      @@andyvan5692 will remember that one

    • @neoasura
      @neoasura Год назад +2

      @@pr00009 He's got a good point, thats how I was taught, I leave the face mill all the way up, lock in the stop collars, and lock the quill lock, and I ONLY use the knee to raise the part, you can control the knee to the thousandths and I just raise it a few notches each time for my spring and finish pass.

    • @impactodelsurenterprise2440
      @impactodelsurenterprise2440 Год назад +1

      I thought using the knee for depth milling is not only the norm but necessary.

  • @charleskutrufis9612
    @charleskutrufis9612 9 месяцев назад

    Thank You for this video, very informative.

  • @santopezzotti730
    @santopezzotti730 Год назад +2

    Great Video I am a 73 year old nebbie looking forward to all of the Tutorials. Do you ever do ant Tutorials on the Manual lathe

  • @fsj197811
    @fsj197811 2 месяца назад

    Interesting, thanks for sharing.

  • @hots2215
    @hots2215 Год назад +2

    watching this vid was amazing

  • @RustyInventions-wz6ir
    @RustyInventions-wz6ir 5 месяцев назад

    Very interesting. Thanks.

  • @matthewk5325
    @matthewk5325 2 года назад +3

    are the inserts in a face mill or shell mill set at different Z heights? like the inserts are designed to engage the material in a sequence right? the 2nd insert is sitting a hair under the 1st insert, then the 3rd is below the 2nd am I right?

    • @chazmakarowski5429
      @chazmakarowski5429 Год назад +2

      No. Inserts are set to the same rotating plane. Some larger face mills have adjustments built into the insert pocket to allow you to dial in inserts if you damage the tool

  • @Supraman007
    @Supraman007 Год назад +1

    What was your spindle speed (RPM)?

    • @JohnStoever
      @JohnStoever 8 месяцев назад

      1000 RPM is a happy compromise. Keep in mind that lower RPM your tooling last longer. Less tool changes, thus saving time. When in doubt, to slow is better than to fast.

  • @linzenmeyer
    @linzenmeyer Год назад

    Lmao...I hope you asked the guy "Yo, what happened to 'Naw man, it'll be fine.'?".

  • @carrollprice1213
    @carrollprice1213 10 месяцев назад +1

    Equally wrong is milling with the quill extended and/or unlocked.

  • @JohnStoever
    @JohnStoever 10 месяцев назад +1

    Step aside sir. I'll show you how it's done.