Saying that Krillin cheated is silly, he still trains to get stronger. Granolah cheated, Krillin just wanted the limits of humanity removed. If Krillin cheated, Goku and Vegeta were natural born cheaters.
No... You're right @AlphaLinkX It would be like just taking steroids and not exercising or dieting...nothing would change other than attitude and emotions lol If krillin didn't train than he'd just be a new sayan with probably the same result. It's only the training that produces results. Makes sense
I will say this, Roshi getting pissy with Krillin early on was kinda Roshi’s own fault cause if he hadn't been “distracted” he would have been as likely to be blindsided by the whole thing.
Kinda hate that it was never discussed how Roshi is entirely to blame for all this since he suggested all this while trying to blow off hs own student. There could have been some great moments in there if that were brought up.
So what did we learn from this timeline 1. The Kaiocannon could have been improved to fix the problems it had 2. Android 16 could have been the terminator if his programming got affected somehow 3.Krillen may not have been Sayin originally but certainly earned it as time went on. Getting Raditz and eventually Vegetas respect was proof of that. 4. If you take a shortcut in life you must be aware of the consequences of them. Krillen learned this that hard way in the Sayin Saga and the Supreme Kai certainly did 5. Maron has crazy amounts of potential being a third Android third human and a third Sayin. Just hope the Kai’s don’t discover that part of her
Man, Masako was rough with Krillin and those judging them, then in DB Super Hero Piccoro just wish to the dragon the power up and all ok. On this version Krillin dind't even know but trained and earned the 'Saiyan' title
This was the first Masako What If I watched and it got me so hooked that I became a huge fan of all his work (R&R, Revelation F, etc) and because of that I greatly appreciate this story. Thank you MasakoX!
Now HOPEFULLY with this one done we'll see a continuation of other old ones you need to revisit as well What if Bulma Trained What if Hercule trained under master Roshi What if Yajarobi trained Hoping those who like me, like these stories well get to see them finish B4 you move on, AGAIN!
17:54, Still don't understand this sort of thought... Krillin still had to train to get stronger. After all sure a shortcut cause sayians like training more than humans. even half sayians like training. But it wasn't like goku wishing for immortality and dying only to ressurect end up with Zekias till he was strong enough to blitz the enemy. Krillin still had to train hard to get stronger. And he had a form more insentivized to it. TLDR: He has to train still to get stronger. He didn't just wish to be the strongest like Granola or lord Slug.
Master Roshi has no right to take the moral high ground considering the kind of person he is. Also he drank from the fountain of youth to cheat death so he's a cheater too.
Almost all the power increases in the show are cheated in a sense. Zenkai boosts are cheats. The hyperbolic time chamber is cheating. Unlocking potential is cheating. The divine water was cheating when Goku used it, guru was cheats for Gohan and krillin. Cell had built in cheats to just absorb two peeps and be the strongest in the universe. Even super saiyan god was a cheat. Had to do something other than training to gain massive power. At this point when character spout nonsense like that I take it as the writers not being self aware of the content they’ve made for decades. In super the hyperbolic time chamber was improved just so characters could get easy power ups. Frieza is born with mad potential, which could be considered unfair. But he trained for all the power he gained after namek. Frieza might be one of the only few who truly didn’t have to cheat. He was just built different.
I can't believe this is finally over. This is the first full story I've got to see you post since subscribing. Another story for the library of what-if-ery.
Maybe for the Cooler What-if, Cooler himself restores the rest of his body while Kikono pulls a General Magnet of betraying the current emperor and gets Mecha-Frieza revived and fused with the Big Gete Star instead.
This is ny second favorite "What If" next to What If Raditz Turned Good In fact i like them both so much i wish to combine the two. A fusion of stories if you will. Lol
I love hearing the story in the background when working but I go to watch the screen for a second I kind of cringe when watching him making those faces but still love his story just saying
I do like these videos but I feel having them compiled like this only makes the moments of previous hinted ideas being brushed aside to hurry the plot along more jarring. Going from Pui Pui to Yakon, having Vegeta complain about wanting to really test his power on the next opponent, only to hurry it passed that by having Goku do the same thing is a bit disappointing. A similar thing happened in an older What If where thebidea of Yamcha and Bulma remaining together with flirted with but by the next part it was forgotten and substituted for the normal Vegeta and Bulma relationship.
Kind of a dumb end that the Grand Priest would care about one little mortal changing their species and basically undoing the point of this what if by turning Krillin back into a human. Liked this whole what if until the very end.
This was one of the first of your What Ifs that got me into your channel and I have to say: Thank you for giving us 4 and a half hours of the Krilldog!! Edit: Also, Roshi should've been called out for starting the whole thing to begin with, since he blew Krillin off. Stop it.
After rewatching GT, I've been wondering if Pan should get her own transformation, but instead of a super Saiyan, it would be human. Her eyes would turn a dark shade of blue, her clothes would turn black, and her aura would mix her eye color with violet for a more imposing look. It'd be Devil May Cry levels of awesome.
I'm wondering about it too. He heavily hinted that we were going to explore Maron's potential earlier on, but we never got to see any of it. Of course, he hinted at a lot of things that would require the story going into Super that we probably aren't going to get.
Still not a fan of the conclusion (Mainly in how the Buu Saga was resolved) but not every story needs to stretch into Super. The journey up until the end was pretty great 🙂
@@wolfboom2my nitpick isnt even entirely the gp showing up, but why did krillin be forced to change back because he is “not in the natural order of things”, yet technically lazuli (a timer traveller) is and his daughter ( a half saiyan BORN FROM BOTH) get free passes
I think the most unfortunate part here is that this is a doomed timeline. Because there’s no Beerus to train the Z Fighters, they’ll be utterly powerless when Frieza/King Cold is revived and trains for four months. Even if that somehow doesn’t happen, and even if the tournament of power and such doesn’t happen, you’d still have Moro who will eventually arrive and completely wipe the floor with Earth.
You know I feel like you would be pretty cool to see both past and future versions of the Androids fuse together to become Super Androids, that'd be awesome
How about some "what if so and so turned evil?" Some darker Dragon Ball scenarios. Like "What if Gohan was evil?" Or "What if Goku never hit his head?"
I just got to the last section, and I have been thoroughly enjoying the story and am still looking forward to this last section, but I definitely do not think of the supreme Kai would have taken Majin Buu to her. For all of his flaws, protecting the universe from boo was one of his primary concerns and he would have sacrificed himself to do that.
I don't get it, why completely change Krillin's genetics and turn him into a Saiyan; I don't even want to hear this what if? How about this one; what if there is a Super Human transformation (the real life legendary "Ascension" perhaps) and Krilling achieved that (first) somewhere either during training for the Androids or in the ROSAT training for the Cell tournament?
He couldn't do it because the androids were stronger than kami. If someone is stronger than the creator of the dragon balls, the magic of the balls will only work on s that person if they allow it.
Nothing wrong with wishing that. He still trains to get his power. There is no shame in not winning the genetic lottery and wishing for better. Honestly even wishing for more power directly is not a bad thing, if you know that threats like Piccolo still exist.
May I make a suggestion? Can you please make what if Krillin became an android? Like what if Krillin became critically injured and had to be turned into an android to save his life? I think it would be interesting ☺
in the T.o.P what if gohan & goku fused? what if gohan & 17 fused, what if goku & 17 fused? what if tien & goku or gohan fused? what if krillin & roshi fused?
Soooo. . . are we gonna talk about the rumors of the new Dragon Ball: MAGIC series and how it's (allegedly) reattempting the events of GT to bring all that back into canon?
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Saying that Krillin cheated is silly, he still trains to get stronger. Granolah cheated, Krillin just wanted the limits of humanity removed.
If Krillin cheated, Goku and Vegeta were natural born cheaters.
No lies were told
No... You're right @AlphaLinkX
It would be like just taking steroids and not exercising or dieting...nothing would change other than attitude and emotions lol
If krillin didn't train than he'd just be a new sayan with probably the same result. It's only the training that produces results. Makes sense
@@jaypaquet3953Exactly
If the zenkai itself isn’t a cheat idk what is
@@SavedByFaith9981they didn’t know about the Zenkai. So wish as is with knowledge had, was not cheating.
“What about goku?”
“What *about* goku?”
Words I’d never thought I’d hear, especially from krillen and it was delivered smoothly 👍
"It's too bad you don't have Saiyan biology, at this point you'd probably be unstoppable."
"I KNOW RIGHT!?"
I will say this, Roshi getting pissy with Krillin early on was kinda Roshi’s own fault cause if he hadn't been “distracted” he would have been as likely to be blindsided by the whole thing.
I love how nobody mentioned this to Roshi after the reveal of Krillin being a saiyan of that fault of his.
Remember. Android 18 removed Krillin's "Get owned" count. 😂
Krillin removed his own "Owned count" from the sound of it
Then in the recent manga she reinstated it XD
@@Aros-pr2xr Yeah it's dumb
@@Aros-pr2xrwe don't speak of something that DIDN'T HAPPEN.
Remember cell had 18 first lol
I love the 'He's a Sayian with the spirit of a human' to counter gt vegeta 'I'm an earthling with the pride of a Sayian'
Poor Bulma having to carry a freah young carcass in her arms. Thankfully Son Gohan was revived immediately after before decomposition.
Kinda hate that it was never discussed how Roshi is entirely to blame for all this since he suggested all this while trying to blow off hs own student. There could have been some great moments in there if that were brought up.
So what did we learn from this timeline
1. The Kaiocannon could have been improved to fix the problems it had
2. Android 16 could have been the terminator if his programming got affected somehow
3.Krillen may not have been Sayin originally but certainly earned it as time went on. Getting Raditz and eventually Vegetas respect was proof of that.
4. If you take a shortcut in life you must be aware of the consequences of them. Krillen learned this that hard way in the Sayin Saga and the Supreme Kai certainly did
5. Maron has crazy amounts of potential being a third Android third human and a third Sayin. Just hope the Kai’s don’t discover that part of her
Being an android wouldn’t effect 18’s DNA, so maron is just half sayian
Man, Masako was rough with Krillin and those judging them, then in DB Super Hero Piccoro just wish to the dragon the power up and all ok. On this version Krillin dind't even know but trained and earned the 'Saiyan' title
This was the first Masako What If I watched and it got me so hooked that I became a huge fan of all his work (R&R, Revelation F, etc) and because of that I greatly appreciate this story. Thank you MasakoX!
Now HOPEFULLY with this one done we'll see a continuation of other old ones you need to revisit as well
What if Bulma Trained
What if Hercule trained under master Roshi
What if Yajarobi trained
Hoping those who like me, like these stories well get to see them finish B4 you move on, AGAIN!
Right.
I'm personally hoping he'll eventually come back around to What If Goku Married Bulma.
I've been waiting for the Yajirobe one for so long.
I really want “What If Bulma Trained Like Goku?”, to continue so badly!
@@ForgottenHonor0HO $#!+ THNX 4 THE REMINDER i seriously forgot that
4 and a half hours of seeing Krillin with blonde hair? Best gift ever.
"And unlike the runt and i. you dont get a power boost from it"
"HAX, I CALL HAX"
I feel like Shenron is lonely. What if someone wishes to be best friends with Shenron forever?
ITS KRILLER TIME *and this time it WAS a thing!*
17:54, Still don't understand this sort of thought... Krillin still had to train to get stronger. After all sure a shortcut cause sayians like training more than humans. even half sayians like training. But it wasn't like goku wishing for immortality and dying only to ressurect end up with Zekias till he was strong enough to blitz the enemy. Krillin still had to train hard to get stronger. And he had a form more insentivized to it.
TLDR: He has to train still to get stronger. He didn't just wish to be the strongest like Granola or lord Slug.
Master Roshi has no right to take the moral high ground considering the kind of person he is. Also he drank from the fountain of youth to cheat death so he's a cheater too.
Almost all the power increases in the show are cheated in a sense.
Zenkai boosts are cheats.
The hyperbolic time chamber is cheating.
Unlocking potential is cheating. The divine water was cheating when Goku used it, guru was cheats for Gohan and krillin.
Cell had built in cheats to just absorb two peeps and be the strongest in the universe.
Even super saiyan god was a cheat. Had to do something other than training to gain massive power.
At this point when character spout nonsense like that I take it as the writers not being self aware of the content they’ve made for decades.
In super the hyperbolic time chamber was improved just so characters could get easy power ups.
Frieza is born with mad potential, which could be considered unfair. But he trained for all the power he gained after namek. Frieza might be one of the only few who truly didn’t have to cheat. He was just built different.
Not hating on anything, just pointing out none of these characters really have the right to be so prideful or self righteous
This was absolutely an amazing story.
I was a little sad about the ending of the series but I still love it none the less!
I had to replay 59:52. You had me dying 😂 "it's that imposter saiyan again! 😤
What a great story, still can't get over future 18 leaving her version of krillin for past krillin lol.
Roshi: why dont you use the dragon balls
Also roshi: you used the dragon balls... im so disappointed on you
Orange Piccolo and Granola basically makes this What If the most plausible of what ifs.
I can't believe this is finally over. This is the first full story I've got to see you post since subscribing. Another story for the library of what-if-ery.
"I have spoken"
The GP would have made Kuiil proud.
My Favourite What If here and if i ever got my hands on real cash I'd pay to have it animated !
Maybe for the Cooler What-if, Cooler himself restores the rest of his body while Kikono pulls a General Magnet of betraying the current emperor and gets Mecha-Frieza revived and fused with the Big Gete Star instead.
This is ny second favorite "What If" next to What If Raditz Turned Good
In fact i like them both so much i wish to combine the two. A fusion of stories if you will. Lol
Now you've got me thinking about Raditz and Krillin trying the fusion dance. With...obvious issues
Love your what ifs masako. Mostly raditz turn good Goku's sister and nappa's good stories
"Hes gonna get it from three ways"
George Takei: Oh My
Dammit Takei!
"It was your idea Roshi."
Been absolutely loving these stories! Keep up the amazing work!
I really love how you reference DBZA in your What ifs
Masako was a VA in dbza he played Goku cell and gohan
@@TungstenCarbide-hj9nl nope, not Cell, that was Takahata101... look it up !
@@abaddonlannister6573 thanks
@@TungstenCarbide-hj9nl MasakoX did voice Roshi though... same number of characters just swapped one 😜
I watched this whole video at work 😭😭😭 this was entertaining for sure
“Bubbles you got a new friend!”
Yes! Loved the story! Thanks for the compilation masako!🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Ive BEEN saying this! The humans need to wish themselves into Saiyans!
its a fanfictiony kind of question but .. i never could actually find this particular fanfiction ...
Been waiting for the compilation now I finally get to experience the story
I love hearing the story in the background when working but I go to watch the screen for a second I kind of cringe when watching him making those faces but still love his story just saying
Aww, he didn't get to stay a sayian, but at least he got a new state of power
I do like these videos but I feel having them compiled like this only makes the moments of previous hinted ideas being brushed aside to hurry the plot along more jarring.
Going from Pui Pui to Yakon, having Vegeta complain about wanting to really test his power on the next opponent, only to hurry it passed that by having Goku do the same thing is a bit disappointing.
A similar thing happened in an older What If where thebidea of Yamcha and Bulma remaining together with flirted with but by the next part it was forgotten and substituted for the normal Vegeta and Bulma relationship.
Kind of a dumb end that the Grand Priest would care about one little mortal changing their species and basically undoing the point of this what if by turning Krillin back into a human. Liked this whole what if until the very end.
Super is a collaboration of bad idea ssb dumb bringing freza back at that point dumb giving Gohan and piccolo upgrades at the end so dumb😂😂😂
Fk you ruining the end
You're the Best masako! Thanks for this! You gave me entertaiment For the next 4 hours! You're the best😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤
IT’S KRILLER TIME!
Finally Krillin can realize his hidden potential
It's crill hour!
your impressions are shockingly good, what the hell man? XD
Kinda bummed me out that he became human again in the end
*LET'S FREAKING GO!!* You know I love these right!? Lol 😅
This was one of the first of your What Ifs that got me into your channel and I have to say: Thank you for giving us 4 and a half hours of the Krilldog!!
Edit: Also, Roshi should've been called out for starting the whole thing to begin with, since he blew Krillin off.
Stop it.
You are definitely a great story teller bro!
May be late but finally it’s here!!!!!!!
Nice, at this point I now wait for the movies. Was looking forward to this one for a long time.
Been waiting for this one...
In this story, Krillin caught up with Goku in power.
Hey Maseko can you do a what if series on what if Future Trunks in future Gohan knew the Kaioken
After rewatching GT, I've been wondering if Pan should get her own transformation, but instead of a super Saiyan, it would be human. Her eyes would turn a dark shade of blue, her clothes would turn black, and her aura would mix her eye color with violet for a more imposing look. It'd be Devil May Cry levels of awesome.
How about what if Krillin got Freiza's head with the Destructro Disk?
I'm wondering if there's going to be a spinoff involving Maron.
What would Super Saiyan look like for a natural blonde?
I'm wondering about it too. He heavily hinted that we were going to explore Maron's potential earlier on, but we never got to see any of it. Of course, he hinted at a lot of things that would require the story going into Super that we probably aren't going to get.
@ultimategotea
My money is on platinum blond.
*IT'S SUPER KRILLER TIME!!!*
@MasekoX love your King Cold voice.
Ime still waiting for what if yamcha was a saiyan....i know it will happen.............eventually
RIP Brobot
"What's your favorite bird??"
Still not a fan of the conclusion (Mainly in how the Buu Saga was resolved) but not every story needs to stretch into Super. The journey up until the end was pretty great 🙂
I'm with you on that one. I felt like Masko pulled out the GP and just ended it all there cause he didn't want to do anything else with it.
I feel it is a good ending, but an epilogue that went into GT I feel could have been nice. Ending with Shigashis Krillin, ssj marron, and Lizuli vs 17
@@wolfboom2my nitpick isnt even entirely the gp showing up, but why did krillin be forced to change back because he is “not in the natural order of things”, yet technically lazuli (a timer traveller) is and his daughter ( a half saiyan BORN FROM BOTH) get free passes
What if Chiaotuz grew up and used his magic vamp powers to be viable.
Could you do "What if Raditz was the legendary super saiyan "
nice video
I think the most unfortunate part here is that this is a doomed timeline. Because there’s no Beerus to train the Z Fighters, they’ll be utterly powerless when Frieza/King Cold is revived and trains for four months.
Even if that somehow doesn’t happen, and even if the tournament of power and such doesn’t happen, you’d still have Moro who will eventually arrive and completely wipe the floor with Earth.
LoL Krillin doomed them all
I think that all depends on whether or not Moro even exists in this universe.
Also, Beerus only trained Goku and Vegeta...he didn't train anyone else.
What if Tien wishes to be a Saiyan?
I dont see that happening...
I see Tien training to have even bigger shoulders before thinking to wish to be a Saiyan
You know I feel like you would be pretty cool to see both past and future versions of the Androids fuse together to become Super Androids, that'd be awesome
This was fun.
How about some "what if so and so turned evil?" Some darker Dragon Ball scenarios. Like "What if Gohan was evil?" Or "What if Goku never hit his head?"
He does have a "what if goku didn't hit his head?" and in what if gohan was the legendary super Saiyan he kinda turns evil in the end
So... is Sagacious Form meant to be a facsimile of Beast Gohan?
I just got to the last section, and I have been thoroughly enjoying the story and am still looking forward to this last section, but I definitely do not think of the supreme Kai would have taken Majin Buu to her. For all of his flaws, protecting the universe from boo was one of his primary concerns and he would have sacrificed himself to do that.
I do identify as a krilldog. Great video from that perspective
This one is very dbza reference heavy compared to a lot of other ones
Now krillin matches his wife and brother in law with hair color
I don't get it, why completely change Krillin's genetics and turn him into a Saiyan; I don't even want to hear this what if?
How about this one; what if there is a Super Human transformation (the real life legendary "Ascension" perhaps) and Krilling achieved that (first) somewhere either during training for the Androids or in the ROSAT training for the Cell tournament?
The thing is. Can Shenron even change the species of a character? He wasn't able to turn 17 and 18 back into humans for some reason.
He couldn't do it because the androids were stronger than kami. If someone is stronger than the creator of the dragon balls, the magic of the balls will only work on s that person if they allow it.
4:12 this didn’t age well 😢
Nothing wrong with wishing that. He still trains to get his power. There is no shame in not winning the genetic lottery and wishing for better.
Honestly even wishing for more power directly is not a bad thing, if you know that threats like Piccolo still exist.
There's been some heavy hits in your What Ifs... but Lazuli punching Dabura in the gotens... Oof
I love the confidence he exudes
In part 2 why is roshi mad? It’s not like Krillin wished for more power. He just wished to be like his buddy. He still has to work for every inch.
So you’ve done What if Raditz was sent to earth. How about what if Broly was sent to earth?
Which Broly?
Yes.
Im 52 minutes in
"Nooooo, I wanted ssj4 krillin!"
I want what ifs about Tien.
He deserves at least 10 what ifs.
What if Frieza became a that thing Chi Chi keeps in her drawer
STOP ITTTT
Well, you do know that if Krillin did wish to become a Saiyan, that would mean Marin, would be born as a half Saiyan, Right?
Yes krill dogs! We are getting on with it!😄
What if Cell decided to travel to different timelines and absorbed all worthy fighters
May I make a suggestion? Can you please make what if Krillin became an android? Like what if Krillin became critically injured and had to be turned into an android to save his life? I think it would be interesting ☺
I think it would be funny if krillins great ape was shorter than Vegeta's and vegeta makes a remark about how krillin was wrong about his height.
I wonder why Frieza was an idiot of two Ssj's right in front of him. King Cold immediately recognized it somehow.
I'd say he's killin in but the anime already did that and made seem unimportant.... but I do like this what if
Why is his face still in frame ? Tell the story behind the frames
I hope with this done well see the what if gine went to earth as a kid
What if saiyans had knowledge of the zenki boost and abused it
in the T.o.P what if gohan & goku fused? what if gohan & 17 fused, what if goku & 17 fused? what if tien & goku or gohan fused? what if krillin & roshi fused?
Krillin, the legendary Super Space Duck/Monkey.
Soooo. . . are we gonna talk about the rumors of the new Dragon Ball: MAGIC series and how it's (allegedly) reattempting the events of GT to bring all that back into canon?
I'll believe it when I hear it straight from the maker's mouth.
@@MasakoX Still say it's worth a video with all the speculation going on right now, however legitimate or not the original of the speculation may be.