Updated Genshin Impact Artifacts Domain Tier List

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  • @largecrab8293
    @largecrab8293 7 месяцев назад +742

    Maiden’s 100% gives the best off pieces

    • @lorraineviruet8973
      @lorraineviruet8973 7 месяцев назад +36

      Doesn’t it!?! I rolled a 20 crit feather without any crit damage rolls I was like wtf r the chances of that

    • @pepelarrza3877
      @pepelarrza3877 7 месяцев назад +92

      I swear they did it on purpose

    • @largecrab8293
      @largecrab8293 7 месяцев назад +33

      I mean, playing since 1.0, haven’t farmed VV domain in years, still have Maiden’s off pieces on some of my best builds. My Neuv is rocking a Maiden’s cap…

    • @Ecaea
      @Ecaea 7 месяцев назад +12

      I have a 30 cdmg maiden off piece. Stop it bro its living in my head rent free.

    • @LukasPlaysBR
      @LukasPlaysBR 7 месяцев назад +2

      i got a 30cv flower while farming for yao yap, to me the only possible answer for this happening is the supernatural

  • @vladdyru
    @vladdyru 7 месяцев назад +349

    TF salesman creating a special tier for TF, why am I not surprised?

  • @RafidW9
    @RafidW9 7 месяцев назад +195

    This sign can't stop me from farming vermilion because I can't read

    • @xxx-lq7ho
      @xxx-lq7ho 7 месяцев назад +89

      this guy has zyox virus dont go near

    • @sunnypa7101
      @sunnypa7101 7 месяцев назад +44

      Zy0x alt acc frfr🗣🗣💯

    • @Coolguysup
      @Coolguysup 7 месяцев назад +2

      Tbh, it’s kinda fun to clear on xiao

    • @Kindi001
      @Kindi001 7 месяцев назад

      the who? tao. jokes i found is from that video in yt when she release gins wolf lord boreas. i forgor what the tittle

    • @cmszd_
      @cmszd_ 7 месяцев назад

      r/okzy0x

  • @primordiael
    @primordiael 7 месяцев назад +216

    Televised Zajef isn't something I knew I needed till now

    • @andyluan7183
      @andyluan7183 7 месяцев назад +21

      He actually does this in his videos when he reacts to his pre release vids

  • @Luteloots
    @Luteloots 7 месяцев назад +135

    It's a mixed bag between me loving Zajef yelling at Twitch chat and me cringing at him yelling at Twitch chat. Sometimes I think chat is just braindead as fuck and/or HAS to be trolling him.

    • @leedevee
      @leedevee 7 месяцев назад +35

      It happens every time, so by default he’s to blame. And I don’t think he does it for drama or showmanship either, he really can’t let those kinds of harmless remarks go. Bro has the EQ of a 5 yo…

    • @1sie
      @1sie 7 месяцев назад +1

      I'm thankful for his vids but I dont watch him for his opinions lol

    • @gmoney9469
      @gmoney9469 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@1sieBut a tier list is literally a collection of opinions organized into a chart. 🤔

    • @1DMapler18
      @1DMapler18 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@1sie yeah same haha, i watch him for his vast knowledge of game mechanics but i let some of the stuff he says just slide past my brain lol

  • @hexaquras9374
    @hexaquras9374 7 месяцев назад +192

    The urge to say Tao after Zajeff asked " Who?" on the crimsonwitch part

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret 7 месяцев назад +8

      People still remember this? I love it

    • @_black_bird
      @_black_bird 7 месяцев назад +6

      Actually valid answer

    • @nyanjangkarim
      @nyanjangkarim 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah

    • @ravitheja715
      @ravitheja715 7 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@DefinitelyNotAFerretPeople forgot? I see this behaviour every single time on the genshin subreddit when someone says "Who?".
      I love it too lol piece of genshin history.

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret 7 месяцев назад

      @@ravitheja715 Ah I don't use reddit- maybe that's why

  • @_black_bird
    @_black_bird 7 месяцев назад +81

    Honestly any artifact set that can be farmed through the strongbox makes them already pretty not optimal to farm, I need better VV for Cloud Retainer but you'll have to point a gun to my head if you want me near that domain

    • @johannesmanninen6416
      @johannesmanninen6416 7 месяцев назад +6

      I started playing late enough that VV was in strongbox already. Haven't been there ever and won't see me there now. Strongbox is too good.

    • @SuperDio58
      @SuperDio58 7 месяцев назад

      if you are not playing dendro, geo or phys team then yeah you dont need to farm on VV domain.. otherwise, you're most likely need 2 (not just 1) set of VV for either your EM and/or healing character set

    • @rogeliosanchezruiz7457
      @rogeliosanchezruiz7457 7 месяцев назад +3

      🔫

    • @sup-md1mo
      @sup-md1mo 7 месяцев назад

      Right when I started rereading homestuck I find someone with a dave pfp under a zajef video wtf

    • @kannalostherjaw.8693
      @kannalostherjaw.8693 7 месяцев назад

      I'm very happy I've got one good VV set and two Crimson sets like in my first month of grinding. Haven't touched the domains or strongboxed them in years now.

  • @Get_Krystalized
    @Get_Krystalized 7 месяцев назад +85

    The amount of stunlocks in this video

    • @arylbleu6912
      @arylbleu6912 7 месяцев назад +9

      clasic twitch chat being twitch chat

    • @leedevee
      @leedevee 7 месяцев назад +28

      @@arylbleu6912Classic on the spectrum streamer not being able to let harmless remarks go. If only I scream louder, people will surely understand.

  • @latioshunter
    @latioshunter 7 месяцев назад +14

    Maybe the real Deepwood Artifacts were the off-piece Gilded Dream artifacts we picked up along the way.

  • @TheSmugOjou-sama
    @TheSmugOjou-sama 7 месяцев назад +150

    Imagine spending your resin. Couldn't be me.

    • @3xtan327
      @3xtan327 7 месяцев назад +20

      Just let your resin cap and use 4 stars from chests

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret 7 месяцев назад +7

      You just put it in the resin bank?

    • @pcythunder
      @pcythunder 7 месяцев назад +5

      bros 10000 steps ahead of all of us.

    • @pyronado4320
      @pyronado4320 7 месяцев назад +2

      I'm at a point where I can put 2p2p on almost anything and it gets the job done

    • @hakimchulan
      @hakimchulan 3 месяца назад

      What do you do in the game broski

  • @ceobe108
    @ceobe108 7 месяцев назад +20

    Man was stun locked on the Hu Tao take.

  • @TCGSyphax
    @TCGSyphax 7 месяцев назад +22

    there should be a category for "AR60 and it's impossible to get an upgrade for your main dps so just do this domain"
    me in husk domain trying to get kokomi pieces who i havent used in months

  • @gullugadha
    @gullugadha 7 месяцев назад +41

    Farming golden troupe domain till i die.

  • @LargeBanana
    @LargeBanana 7 месяцев назад +46

    Zajef: Shimenawa 4pc is useless for basically everyone
    My 100/205 shimenawa Wanderer, Sadge

    • @haghandler
      @haghandler 7 месяцев назад +37

      I'd personally argue that wanderer being sadge is the ideal.

    • @xxx-lq7ho
      @xxx-lq7ho 7 месяцев назад

      wandrer mid that L

    • @awesomemilkshake6612
      @awesomemilkshake6612 7 месяцев назад +1

      I mean, it might be cope but the fun part about wanderer is his skill, not his burst. Just getting to fly around with all buffs is what I like most about playing him, not the burst.
      (Also getting good emblem feels amazing for all the characters I have).

  • @MegaMrASD
    @MegaMrASD 7 месяцев назад +13

    Started in 4.0, first order of business was getting vary basic pieces for Yelan, Xingqiu and Xiangling in Emblem domain, then farmed some Maree pieces for my Wrio and golden troup for Fischl, but Fischl got a good set super early on so moved over to deep wood to farm for Kuki, Baizhu, and Nahida to get my hyperbloom team going strong. Then moved back to finish getting Wrio a decent enough Marasussy set and now back to emblem since Xiangling artifacts are pretty trash at the moment. Got C6 gaming so will farm some more Maree soon, except if I get Arlecchino and she has her own set that needs farming, but hopefully she also ends up using the same set as the others so I can double quad dip (might miss Furina because of her which is sadge, but I must have Father)

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif 7 месяцев назад +4

      farming marechausse since 4.0 and I still don't have 4pc for wriothesley 🗿

  • @monemori
    @monemori 7 месяцев назад +26

    I have both Wanderer and Nilou and you can definitely notice an increase in DPS by using flop. Both my Ayato (Nilou trigger) and Kuki (HB) are on Flop, and because I farmed that domain for close to a year for my Wanda I actually have really good substats there which makes running EM Thoma easier since I have lots of EM mainstat pieces with high ER and HP rolls ^^

    • @faerieinwonderland
      @faerieinwonderland 7 месяцев назад +1

      I can even play Kaveh bloom and it's strong, real

    • @NinjaDan24
      @NinjaDan24 7 месяцев назад

      I’m kinda curious how you’ve built your Ayato this Nilou team, may give it a try in future when Nilou reruns again. I skipped her as I didn’t think I’d like the Dendro and hydro playstyle much, but it’s made me reconsider since it looks fun to try and play around trying to not die to your own blooms. Plus I heard that Ayato is very underrated in Nilou

    • @monemori
      @monemori 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@NinjaDan24 I actually really like Ayato with Nilou and I think he's unironically one of his best teammates.
      I can't talk about Neuvillette because I don't have him, but Ayato offers something really useful which is constant (not very fast, not slow) hydro app with a massive AoE. Besides his burst, his E slashes have a way larger AoE than people realize, too. This helps a lot because Nilou sometimes struggles with AoE situations, but between Nahida's E and Ayato's Q you alleviate this issue a lot.
      As for his build, I just run him full EM with an EM sword, 4p flop, and some ER substats.

    • @peted2783
      @peted2783 7 месяцев назад +2

      Just to make sure, Nilou herself just needs hp, right?

    • @monemori
      @monemori 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@peted2783 Yes! She only cares for HP, anything else is secondary. You may want crit substats if she's on fav, but frankly her teams don't need much ER anyway so it doesn't matter what weapon she uses either tbh

  • @Rayhaku808
    @Rayhaku808 7 месяцев назад +36

    I thought it was gonna be ranking artifact domains by enemy/level design, not based on the artifacts from the domain. I must be high.

    • @ATHOS_of_INDEX
      @ATHOS_of_INDEX 7 месяцев назад

      Getting high crit rolls that is hahahahahahahahaha 420

  • @monemori
    @monemori 7 месяцев назад +13

    Shimenawa Wanderer feels so shit, frankly. Unless you are playing Mika in your Furina teams, I would always use his set. The attack speed makes a huge difference in his gameplay in the practice, regardless of what the calcs say on paper.

  • @iHateD2pvp
    @iHateD2pvp 7 месяцев назад +56

    wow i wish i was this passionate about guilded

    • @leedevee
      @leedevee 7 месяцев назад +4

      No you don’t

  • @Dubstep_Gun
    @Dubstep_Gun 7 месяцев назад +3

    Congratulations for Zajef77 as for being the only tf farmer in 2024!

  • @bjornnilsson2941
    @bjornnilsson2941 7 месяцев назад +9

    Have to agree about Deepwood/Gilded. Gilded is like 3-4% behind CW for Hu Tao. What would you rather have as your second set to drop, Deepwood or Lavawalker? 💀anyone who has Nahida should want a strong DPS Deepwood set, and at least one full support set for a few other staple characters. Also, be careful what you strongbox, I spent several hundred artifacts to make a 4pc set of Thundersoother for Fischl in 3.0 only for it to be split into off pieces as soon as Golden Troupe was released.

    • @zorgling25
      @zorgling25 7 месяцев назад +2

      Ironically, despite people putting down Gilded, the biggest issue with the Deepwood/Gilded domain from an efficiency standpoint is Deepwood, not Gilded.
      The problem with Deepwood is that the only Deepwood user that really cares about substats is Nahida. All the other Deepwood users are supports who don't *really* care about substats other than having enough ER. Users like Baizhu, DMC, and Yaoyao barely contribute damage to the teams they're on, so there generally isn't much improvement from the Deepwood side once their ER needs are satisfied. Generally once you have Nahida built, you're mostly farming that domain for Gilded upgrades, and the Deepwood pieces rarely help that much.
      Gilded is great and very versatile. Deepwood is only useful for a few characters, and only one of those characters actually scales enough with substats to matter.

    • @isgonnabeagreatyear
      @isgonnabeagreatyear 7 месяцев назад +2

      even nahida doesnt need crazy substats. If you play dendro, grab your 4p mainstat deepwood and leave that domain immediately. being versatile means jack shit if your competition is 2p wanderers

    • @bjornnilsson2941
      @bjornnilsson2941 7 месяцев назад

      @@zorgling25Totally agree that Gilded is more useful than Deepwood. I think I'm slightly biased because it took me much longer to get a single strong deepwood set for Nahida than it did to get 2 full DPS sets (Yae, Alhaitham) plus a full 1k EM set (Kuki) on Gilded. The only thing I would say is two DPS sets on Deepwood isn't necessarily a waste because other dendro DPS characters (Tighnari/Alhaitham mainly) can use them if none of their teammates can really use that set. Under ideal circumstances you'd have it on a support though.

    • @bjornnilsson2941
      @bjornnilsson2941 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@isgonnabeagreatyearIf you're only going for the budget full EM Nahida sure. Then there are probably other domains that have higher priority. Well the only other two are Emblem and Golden Troupe tbh.

    • @yewwizz
      @yewwizz 7 месяцев назад

      @@isgonnabeagreatyearnah, a sub-dps build Nahida does pretty great dmg. In quick bloom teams with Furina, Nahida gets Furina’s buff so it’s wise if you build her for dmg. Same thing with Nilou bloom teams where hydro is the trigger. EM Nahida is less effective since she’s not the one who’s triggering majority of the blooms so her personal dmg is more significant.

  • @Ecaea
    @Ecaea 7 месяцев назад +17

    Tfurry salesman never change bruh.

  • @Kingluxio
    @Kingluxio 7 месяцев назад +18

    I thought we were gunna rate how fun the domains are to complete

    • @ChAnTAxR
      @ChAnTAxR 7 месяцев назад +3

      There are all the same if you have venti or Frezze honestly

    • @Idknlandwh123
      @Idknlandwh123 7 месяцев назад

      same

    • @amiapsychopat
      @amiapsychopat 7 месяцев назад +4

      blizzard strayer has to be the worst imo. I can't count how often I died there with my shitty friendship team

  • @Lwk_
    @Lwk_ 7 месяцев назад +49

    zajef had a TC rage right there

  • @Luteloots
    @Luteloots 7 месяцев назад +17

    Just gotta say on the talk about Hu Tao's "best set" it's 100% Hunters IF you're playing with Furina BUT otherwise honestly you're VERY likely going to get best results out of a mixed 2pc 2pc set. None of the 4pc sets (including Shimenawa) are honestly worth enough to really outweigh better stats on a mixed set.
    There's so many 80 EM sets now that it's VERY easy to have a great 2pc 80 EM set for her and 2pc Hunters or 2pc Crimson Witch is also solid. With good enough sub-stats you can even just have 1 2pc set and 3 other random pieces with no set bonus.
    SOOOO many people seem to massively undervalue EM on Hu Tao when literally all of your damage is coming from vape reactions. I literally always see people showing off builds with sub 100 EM and you're just giving up so much "free" damage, particularly if you're stacking attack% which is of very little value for her.

    • @planetary-rendez-vous
      @planetary-rendez-vous 7 месяцев назад

      I feel better with my "cobbled" 2pc/2pc set wanderer's troupe from boss.

    • @siliconhawk
      @siliconhawk 7 месяцев назад

      Just use dragons bane 😎

  • @ljudsko.bice.1336
    @ljudsko.bice.1336 7 месяцев назад +6

    I don't agree with Glow set since it's your only option for a second 2p HP set and you cannot strongbox it. Literally unavoidable domain to farm for some time for Nilou

    • @lonely_dolphin8923
      @lonely_dolphin8923 7 месяцев назад

      Can just run 2pc EM until it's strongboxable.

    • @wishes2052
      @wishes2052 7 месяцев назад

      @@lonely_dolphin8923 5 more months 🙏

    • @violet_evergarden450
      @violet_evergarden450 7 месяцев назад +1

      Just farm VG for few days
      Nilou don't even care for the substats, so getting 2pc is just easy
      I got mine in just 10 domain runs

    • @cleod7439
      @cleod7439 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@lonely_dolphin8923that's directly worse (an it will not be available until Natlan, there is a good reason to farm it)

    • @lonely_dolphin8923
      @lonely_dolphin8923 7 месяцев назад

      @@cleod7439 Didn't say it was better, but the difference is negligible. Nilou was slaying long before that domain released and continues to slay without it.

  • @HunteR3453
    @HunteR3453 7 месяцев назад +8

    Me with a Raytracing Bolide Yoimiya: "I can't hear you on my moral superiority mountain"

  • @colorlessguard
    @colorlessguard 7 месяцев назад +2

    ok but i would love to see if there’s any data on which domains the playerbase farm the least and the most! if the genshin devs ever bring back the Teyvat Times i think that would be some fun stats to include

  • @rifarira9160
    @rifarira9160 6 месяцев назад +3

    IF YOU NEED AN OFF PIECE, ALWAYS BET ON MAIDEN!!!

  • @tsyganko
    @tsyganko 7 месяцев назад +18

    The argument that Nymphs is bad if you kill enemies quick enough is so weird. Like, you think I'm bringing Childe into a situation thats NOT AoE/multiwave/ or boss?? Nymphs Dream is Polar Star in a set, its actually really good hahaha. Also, if you're killing enemies that quickly, you're probably in overworld, where it literally doesn't matter.
    (Also, VG 2 piece is a good option for characters, isnt it? Why didnt he remember that, when he mentioned other 2 pc sets)

    • @blankuser987
      @blankuser987 7 месяцев назад +5

      yea that one was kind of a braindead take i won't lie like "oh no, my childe did slightly less damage while killing through a wave of enemies quickly anyways 💀" it's a good all-rounder set for childe and like you said, the overworld does not matter at all anyways

    • @amandaslough125
      @amandaslough125 7 месяцев назад +3

      Rule for thee but not for me. Emblem was highly meta and thus Shima will have a rule favoring it's bias. But less people want Nymph and Vglow so even though they have great 2pc, the same logic won't be applied. Remember, Candace can make anyone happy with +hydro, and it also works on Furina etc when farming 4pc golden group, or any other form of creative team building. Realistically, while the 2pc atk from Shima is good, I really only consider Emblem a requirement on Raiden, XQ and Yelan. Everyone else has 2/2 pc or 4pc sets that also work enough for them, and usually prefer stat scaling 2pc over specifically 2pc ER.
      I'm a Dehya player so I was going to get some vglow pieces anyway, but between building Baizhu, Layla, Kirara, Neuvillette, Furina, Candace, and a few others, I have more 2pc from these off domains than good on set pieces. My Baizhu is set up nicely from 2pc vlgow and some cracked leftover maiden pieces. More vglow 2pcs let me spare some blizzard from Layla for other cryo units. Furina has 2pc nymph while I get a better 4pc golden for Fischl. Childe has 2/2 nymph and the first hydro set of never giving me anything good.
      It's like, yea, GT made Albedo no longer need Husk, but that doesn't stop Itto, Noelle, Gorou, and Yunjin from wanting it. And I keep some spare Def pieces around precisely for the fact when I want to finish my mono geo team (I wanted Albedo, and more colorful distractions up to this point), Itto's getting the best 4pc pieces, and as long as everyone else gets a 2pc Husk, they're going to have adaptable off set pieces for the rest.

    • @swisherrrr
      @swisherrrr 7 месяцев назад

      @@amandaslough125even xq prefers noblesse sometimes

    • @Nikkikkikkiz
      @Nikkikkikkiz 6 месяцев назад

      I feel like a lot of people forget that Nymph's Dream is also best in slot on Ayato. Ayato has just been forgotten too much.

    • @swisherrrr
      @swisherrrr 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Nikkikkikkiz he's a bad character and glad is close enough

  • @Marta1Buck
    @Marta1Buck 7 месяцев назад +6

    Emblem domain gives me usable main stats, gilded domain gives me unlimited amount of Def% main stats on both artifacts. once I got the second EM deep woods artifacts for nahida, I promised not to come back to that domain ever again.

    • @firaelle6962
      @firaelle6962 7 месяцев назад +2

      a total opposite of my experience tbh

    • @pashugamez
      @pashugamez 7 месяцев назад

      in all my time spent farming gilded i have 2 usable pieces, fuck that shit back to mh and gt i go

  • @peted2783
    @peted2783 7 месяцев назад +3

    Clam&Husk being higher than Desert Pav&FLOP is pure double standards
    Vorukasha domain is the perfect 2 piece domain for Nilou and Yelan, I will die on this hill.

  • @nicobiche
    @nicobiche 7 месяцев назад +9

    Me who farmed Dehya domain because I have Nilou and love my Childe...

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. 7 месяцев назад

      Childe just by doing a CA gets max stacks on the set, making it better than any 2/2p, it's just his anti Childe bias

  • @lordsuslik
    @lordsuslik 7 месяцев назад +7

    I like how he wasted 5 minutes so that he could avoid having to answer "crimson witch is bis for hutao"

    • @Debate_Bot
      @Debate_Bot 7 месяцев назад +2

      For overall dmg, yes. For high charged attack dmg, no. Also, if youre f2p and farming the lavawalker domain the wtf r u doing.

    • @yewwizz
      @yewwizz 7 месяцев назад +2

      That’s not what it was though? It wasnt even about Hu Tao’s bis. The Hu Tao thing was just a tangent that someone in chat (and you) fixated on. Saying ‘Guilded is viable on Hu Tao’ does not mean he denies CW being her BiS.

    • @hollownexus9316
      @hollownexus9316 6 месяцев назад +6

      The fact that CW is good for one unit and the other set is hot garbage makes it concerning to go for

    • @None38389
      @None38389 5 месяцев назад

      Crimson witch set bonus only give 37.5% damage to melt and vape (52.5% in total if you add the 2 piece bonus) . Shinmenawa give's 50% damage bonus to attack and charge attacks, and 18% ATK from 2 piece. Crimson witch is only better when you are going for big ult nukes. There is no reason to farm crimson witch when you can farm for a set that is about as good (better in many cases) while also be farming for emblem.

  • @SleepyKurisu
    @SleepyKurisu 7 месяцев назад +5

    Zajeff.... I've been playing since 1.4 and I still don't have a useable 4pc crimson for my Hu Tao
    I've also tried farming Shim and MH but I'm forever stuck at 3 very good peices on each set and I'm unlucky with the 4th
    HELP

    • @riiel3474
      @riiel3474 7 месяцев назад +11

      You can keep farming MH and then get CW from the strongbix until you finally get a good set

    • @SleepyKurisu
      @SleepyKurisu 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@riiel3474 yeah I might get back to it soon, I've just had a very messy but somewhat successful resin spending journey with this game it's hard to fully commit to something sometimes I'm hoping MH and golden troupe get added to strongbox soon but probably not until 5.0

    • @riiel3474
      @riiel3474 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@SleepyKurisu If the current trends follow, it will be added to the strongbox in 6.0

    • @SleepyKurisu
      @SleepyKurisu 7 месяцев назад

      @@riiel3474 dang that's a while I'll have to keep up the grind then

    • @Conqueror-of-Demons
      @Conqueror-of-Demons 7 месяцев назад +1

      Keep farming MH since your good pieces can be used on other characters, but only if you got Furina in your acc.
      I never farmed CWOF domain but rather I strongboxed them for Hu Tao (Cus I got her in 4.1).
      Furina was released in 4.2 making MH the best for Hu Tao with Furina, kinda felt bad cus my CWOF pieces are really good. My Hu Tao is top 3% on Akasha. I gave my extra CWOF pcs to Xiangling and she is too top 3%.
      And now Arlecchino is coming who is better than Hu Tao TwT. I really should have went for Neuvillette back in 4.1 rather than Hu Tao.

  • @flamezforthegamez1056
    @flamezforthegamez1056 7 месяцев назад +1

    Despite what Zajeff says about Shimenawa's and it being useless, it's pretty strong for non-Furina Xianyun teams and it's pretty much due to it being one of the only 5* artifact set to give splunge dmg bonus, and being the most flexible of the plunge dmg bonus sets. Ofc, when it comes to FUrina in Xianyun teams, Marechaussee is nearly always the go-to, but without her, it's pretty much their standard sets or maybe even Gilded but Shimenawa's is a pretty good substitute or general option, especially with Furina occupying so many teams not inclusive of Xianyun.

  • @JosepiThe13th
    @JosepiThe13th 7 месяцев назад +3

    No way bro put Clam/Husk above Maiden’s/Viridescent💀

  • @はたけカカシ-u8b
    @はたけカカシ-u8b 7 месяцев назад +8

    11:54 how did his Hu Tao die? I heard you don't die if you put Xingqiu in your team. He has the best defensive utility in the game, no?

    • @deltaspecies1697
      @deltaspecies1697 7 месяцев назад +12

      True, i heard some whales even use c6 xinqiu over c6 yelan cuz of all the defense utility he provides. Truly a unit of all time.

    • @はたけカカシ-u8b
      @はたけカカシ-u8b 7 месяцев назад

      @@deltaspecies1697 XINGCHILLING

    • @ChAnTAxR
      @ChAnTAxR 7 месяцев назад +1

      Cause you’re also playing a unit who always on the line of death and can only heal with a burst you get every three rotations.

  • @Nihilore
    @Nihilore 7 месяцев назад +1

    i play Shime Hu Tao but she's C2 and the artifacts are so good i can easily 36* Abyss with her without ever needing to burst. so much more worth it than bothering with Crimson Witch

    • @nexuhs.
      @nexuhs. 7 месяцев назад

      With a Xianyun plunge team the ultimate is even less used now

  • @None38389
    @None38389 5 месяцев назад

    People kept forgetting that shinmenawa gives a whopping 50% damage bonus to attacks and charge attacks, it's not hard to see why it's better than crimson witch on hutao if you just add up the numbers crimson witch gives for vape and melt. The only reason to go for crimson witch is if you are ult-nuking.

  • @eternalflame8104
    @eternalflame8104 7 месяцев назад

    Zajef where is nighttime whispers? Did you forget about that artifact domain?

    • @Nikkikkikkiz
      @Nikkikkikkiz 6 месяцев назад

      At the way end of the video

  • @13r2N
    @13r2N 7 месяцев назад

    The thumbnail was just screaming "LAMENT" in my head and I was wondering what TF was doing there, and then I remembered, an electro swirl is indeed an electro reaction...
    It's been a while since Dr. Frankenstein put on his labcoat hasn't it.

  • @ChiggnNumgets
    @ChiggnNumgets 7 месяцев назад

    At start of game farmed two maidens flowers consecutively not knowing both would turn into 40+cv pieces

  • @arushiiru
    @arushiiru 7 месяцев назад +1

    Man, it sucks to entertain those chatters. Like, I'd never thought I'd hear "Gilded Dreams suck".

  • @Vixxennya
    @Vixxennya 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a good 4 pc Crimson Witch for Hu Tao (other than crit ratio being scuffed) and it's still a very minor downgrade from 2pc 2pc according to the Optimiser
    I'm still using it because it allows me to switch artifacts less often

  • @OfficialFo
    @OfficialFo 7 месяцев назад +1

    zajef chose violence today

  • @AdrasAdraki
    @AdrasAdraki 7 месяцев назад

    Is he doing any hsr content on youtube? I just got into the game and i very much miss his content in that game outside of like 2 hours of streaming.

    • @leedevee
      @leedevee 7 месяцев назад +1

      I like his Genshin content, but please don’t watch his HSR stuff, he has no clue what he’s talking about, because he doesn’t play a lot and doesn’t follow meta discussions. You’re better off watching dedicated HSR CC’s. I can recommend Guoba Certified, he makes guides on all characters and different gameplay mechanics. I’m no math wizard or genius, but I’ve played HSR each and every day since release and put a lot of time into building characters, Zajef knows shit about the game, yet talks about it as if he does. Kind of weird.

  • @gmoney9469
    @gmoney9469 7 месяцев назад

    My guy needs some sound absorbing foam squares up on those bare walls.

  • @chezero404
    @chezero404 7 месяцев назад +1

    Farming for navia's set feels like shit.
    I got 4 double crit flowers on a healing set in 2 days, tilted and now I'm only playing navia with furina so I can use Marechaussee

  • @Senorgato029
    @Senorgato029 7 месяцев назад

    I spend a little more time than I should in gilded/deepwood than I should, my marachusse has multiple solid sets and so does golden, I suppose my emblem sets could use a bit of work but I’m trying to get a better sands for alhaitham because it’s his only mid piece, alhaitham is the perfect main, he’s hot, he’s strong, and easy to play

  • @pleased-company7676
    @pleased-company7676 7 месяцев назад +1

    I farmed 4 piece crimson for Arlecchino…am I okay?? 💀

    • @the_real_tabby
      @the_real_tabby 4 месяца назад

      Glad would have been better then Crimson.

  • @JojoDigitalArtist
    @JojoDigitalArtist 7 месяцев назад

    On the last artifacts It's also good to go 2 piece 2 piece on a C6 Yelan only since her damage from her BTBs at C6 is a huge part of her.

  • @Error403HRD
    @Error403HRD 7 месяцев назад

    As a Venti main I've been LIVING in the stupid viridescent domain. I can literally zoom through it in ten seconds with a bennett burst, venti burst, kazuha burst and have energy back for the next round because venti is the GOAT.
    Doesn't excuse the fact that my Venti STILL HAS 96:106 CRIT RATIO after FIVE MONTHS (is he still Top 3%, yes he is and i find that mildly concerning)

  • @alirehman4858
    @alirehman4858 7 месяцев назад

    Wouldn’t Crimson be good for Arlechhino? Her big pyro damage comes from E.

    • @Solace98
      @Solace98 7 месяцев назад +3

      Dude, we don't even have any proper leak info yet about her kit and I wouldn't trust clout chasing leaks either. Just wait a bit until the beta drops

  • @Idknlandwh123
    @Idknlandwh123 7 месяцев назад

    I farmed dendro set for more than a year and still don't have dendro damage artifact with 15+ crit dmg or 0+ crit chance...

  • @Force-Multiplier
    @Force-Multiplier 7 месяцев назад +1

    Zajeff most should just get Emblem pieces from strongbox
    so MH and GT and GD plus DM should be a tier above Emblem and Shimenawa
    the only set that comes with a not so good set that i wouldn't wait to get from the strongbox is VV since I just trade Maiden Pieces for VV pieces on the Strongbox anyways
    but i'm a VV slave so i will eat my bias and not recommend it to others either

    • @eurekadiaz3771
      @eurekadiaz3771 7 месяцев назад +1

      Farming emblem directly still a valid option considering how many char wants the 4 piece. Raiden, Yelan, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Sara, Beidou if you suck at parrying.

    • @Force-Multiplier
      @Force-Multiplier 7 месяцев назад

      @@eurekadiaz3771 it is valid but i just can't bring myself to put it on the same tier as MH GT GD or DM

  • @molybdnum
    @molybdnum 7 месяцев назад

    Needs better tier labels.
    [S] Two powerhouse sets, each a BiS or near-BiS for common characters/teams
    [A] One powerhouse set (BiS for common DPS or critical 4pc support set), one niche 4pc set or viable 2pc
    [B] One niche DPS set / critical support set, one viable 2pc DPS or 4pc meme/niche build sets (grind only if you're fine getting high percentages of fodder 5star artifacts)
    [C] One niche DPS set / critical support set but garbage 2nd set (strongbox this tier and below)
    [D] Viable 2pc set, garbage 2nd set
    [Concerned] No useful sets
    Examples:
    MH/GT is S tier
    Emblem/Shim is A tier
    Blizz/HeartofDepth is A/B tier
    Anything S-A you can grind knowing that you *will* be able to use good pieces on somebody no matter what
    B tier less so, may not be in their best 1-2 sets, but unlikely to be entirely wasted or can slowly build up your fun meme experiment sets
    What falls into C/D/trash is dependent on your characters but are increasingly bad uses of resin

  • @tadano-kunn
    @tadano-kunn 7 месяцев назад

    Is 2pc 2pc HP better than 4pc Flower of Paradise for Nilou? I've seen most players are on 2pc rather than the 4pc.

    • @phoenixlau
      @phoenixlau 7 месяцев назад +2

      2+2 HP buffs your whole team no matter who triggers. Paradise is if you expect Nilou to be the main trigger herself, which is probably not the case.

    • @tadano-kunn
      @tadano-kunn 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@phoenixlau I see. Thanks.

    • @Rysto32
      @Rysto32 7 месяцев назад

      4pc FlOP is technically her BiS IF you have her sig weapon and have godrolled HP substats (including like 1000 flat HP on sands/goblet/circlet). I tried farming a set for months in the leadup to 3.0 because I had nothing else to farm and didn't come close to hitting 74.4k HP on FlOP. Just run 2pc/2pc HP%; it's so much easier to get.

  • @thegamingconnoisseur1105
    @thegamingconnoisseur1105 5 месяцев назад

    How is XQ using noblesse when bennett is in the team, doesn't it not stack?

    • @tasha2749
      @tasha2749 2 месяца назад +1

      You give him instructor basically, xq in 4 nobles also really good because essentially you just run 2pc no and 2pc atk for 12s because the burst doesn't snapshot

  • @Zorlexon
    @Zorlexon 7 месяцев назад

    I farmed Emblem domain for a YEAR basically and I still don't have a full 4 shimenawa lmao

    • @johns783
      @johns783 7 месяцев назад

      go you beat, i still farm it

  • @sakaom
    @sakaom 7 месяцев назад +1

    i dont care how much he tries to brainwash me i am NOT stepping into that God forsaken TF domain

  • @Kirito_wr
    @Kirito_wr 7 месяцев назад +1

    Farming deepwood and gilded every day is actually kinda stupid because u use deepwood mostly for the 4 piece and often on chars that are pure supports so its stats dont really matter, and for gilded u only need the right mainstats and you are done, which is why its stupid to farm it every day. So it belongs in concerned, yes its a good set to farm but a terrible set to min max sub stats because its pointless.

    • @phoenixlau
      @phoenixlau 7 месяцев назад +1

      Deepwood: Nahida wants all the stats, other supports want all the ER rolls
      Gilded: DPS want all the stats, some dendro reaction triggers like Thoma want all the ER rolls. Obviously off-label sidegrade 2pc/4pc Gilded will want all the stats as well.
      I mean if EM Kuki/Raiden is the only unit on your account that uses Gilded, then it goes without saying that you're probably not going to be spending much time in there.
      But if you pulled for all the dendro and dendro adjacent units and actually build them to be Abyss ready, then you're going to be in this domain for a long time.

    • @championabovechampions5550
      @championabovechampions5550 7 месяцев назад +1

      > yes its a good set to farm but a terrible set to min max sub stats because its pointless.
      Haitham, the second best hypercarry in the game reacting to this dogshit take: 🗿🗿🗿
      Nahida who deals around 15-25% of most teams dps she is in, seeing "stats dont matter":🗿🗿🗿
      Sure bro, if you love losing half of your team's dps, then your take is 100% right.

    • @Kirito_wr
      @Kirito_wr 7 месяцев назад

      @@championabovechampions5550 in hyperbloom teams most of your damage comes from hyperbloom or neuvilette nahidas raw dendro damage is only about 15-20k dps which is barely a quarter and nit half your teams dmg. And you can even run alhaithem on all def artifacts and clear abyss with him. Compared to characters like raiden or neuvilette their scaling is just much lower. The characters where the other sets are used make up more then half of your teams damage AND are extremely versitile. For example play rational you can put your emblem pieces on raiden xiangling and xq or yelan who deal 99% of your teams dmg just from 1 set. If u farm the domain in fontain you get the set for neuvilette furina and fischl all in one domain which deal combined 99% of your teams damage. While if u have a dendro team u can min max much less

    • @isgonnabeagreatyear
      @isgonnabeagreatyear 7 месяцев назад

      @@championabovechampions5550 surely haitham's best team doesnt have furina and he would never use MH

    • @championabovechampions5550
      @championabovechampions5550 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@isgonnabeagreatyear No he doesnt. Furina is just dogshit with him. It makes it 10 times harder to play the team, 10 times harder to do shit, and 20 times harder survive till the third chamber if you ever get hit even once.
      But not only that, your rotation is now also fucking awkward and just doesnt feel good to play.
      Cuz if you ever even think of doing the usual Nahida qe->Yelan eq-> Haitham q->Kuki e-> Haitham 1N4 1N3 E 1N4 1N3 CA 1N4 1N3, you will just fucking die.
      You dont have fanfare in this team, you can not sustain it, and you have to play it perfectly.
      And then even if you perform perfectly, it still only has 4k dps advantage over Yelan.
      Losing every single bit of room for mistakes in excange for 4k dps XDDD
      A certified sheet andy moment.

  • @haydrch
    @haydrch 7 месяцев назад +5

    you farm for furina piece you build fischl, yae, neuvi, albedo (chiori), lyney, rizly, even hutao and xiao

  • @Nadi-Ger
    @Nadi-Ger 7 месяцев назад

    "people" use 4p bonuses with the wrong mainstat before they ever have the idea of a 2p2p

  • @MarianoQS97
    @MarianoQS97 7 месяцев назад +1

    Zajef when i started playing this i always watched ur videos and the amount of information and great ideas were like, amazing, now, im still watching ur videos and dont get me wrong they still amazing, great for new players but... That's it, now you dont make absolutely anything for ppl who want to get more, for other ppl more interested in real damages, like i have a hu tao with crimson and i hit 150k per charged, if i use hunter i only hit 120k like... My xiangling is the same and gaming exactly the same there are absolutely any reasons to no play or farm this sets for them but when y askt "why, who, what reasons" men there are ppl who want to make damages not playing Xiao with hunters...

    • @Doobydoe
      @Doobydoe 7 месяцев назад +1

      Zajef doesn't own this channel, it's a fan acc, if you want him to read this, comment on his channel

    • @fioragap
      @fioragap 7 месяцев назад +1

      MH is a DPS increase for Hu Tao over CW if you are using Furina. This is just factual information lol.

  • @Benjamin.90
    @Benjamin.90 7 месяцев назад

    Have been farming Deepwood/Gilded for over a year now. Still no good set for Nahida.
    Don't feel like I'm efficient or having a big brain anymore. 😂

    • @NeithQuill
      @NeithQuill 7 месяцев назад

      Me who has a set for her alraedy after trying to farm for EM gilded dreams to no avail while having no Nahida for weeks:

  • @AlexAmor7
    @AlexAmor7 7 месяцев назад

    This video posted just 1 day before new arti leaks lol

  • @Matiel5836
    @Matiel5836 3 месяца назад

    I don't get why that person didn't understand why DeepWood's domain is so high up it made me so mad. IT IS ESSENTIAL.. HONESTLY... NEEDED! REQUIRED! for every dendro team out there and what is part of the meta and one of the strongest reactions? DENDRO. Every character or team that focuses on dendro reactions: BLOOM, HYBEEBLOOM, BURGEON, SPREAD, NAHIDA, AL-HAITHAM, TIGHNARI. Needs deepwood and Gilded as their set or being used within their team due to how good it is. Just shows how dumb that guy was and didn't know a thing, probably didn't clear abyss well too.

  • @johnreydelatorre3450
    @johnreydelatorre3450 7 месяцев назад +1

    Before watching, Im guessing Deepwood’s domain

  • @MaFeLikEmE
    @MaFeLikEmE 7 месяцев назад

    Where is this guy from ? Does someone know ?

  • @СашаЛагаев
    @СашаЛагаев 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wtf is he talking about?
    Crimson witch is literally best for Hu Tao non Furina/Yanfei teams.

  • @alawiio
    @alawiio 7 месяцев назад +5

    even in artifact tierlist he still find a way to praise xingqui LMAO

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 7 месяцев назад

    Me who's been strongboxing and then farming TF for a week. Big PP energy.

    • @xxx-lq7ho
      @xxx-lq7ho 7 месяцев назад

      thats giga chad i farm it for razor

    • @mickysaif
      @mickysaif 7 месяцев назад

      I have two full sets for my lisa and keqing, and a 2pc for beidou

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 7 месяцев назад +7

    My healer Ningguang with 4 piece Maiden

  • @immortalspoiler
    @immortalspoiler 7 месяцев назад +2

    Which artifact do I need to pick more mints faster?

    • @shoppingforleaves3162
      @shoppingforleaves3162 7 месяцев назад +1

      You need Chiori's 3rd passive.

    • @immortalspoiler
      @immortalspoiler 7 месяцев назад

      @@shoppingforleaves3162 Gatekeeped by a gacha character its trash.

  • @addaine4019
    @addaine4019 7 месяцев назад

    unironically, who has TF as a best in slot besides like cyno?

    • @jimbo491
      @jimbo491 7 месяцев назад +4

      keqing :3

    • @addaine4019
      @addaine4019 7 месяцев назад

      Are you sure? Isn't gilded better on keqing?

    • @jimbo491
      @jimbo491 7 месяцев назад

      @@addaine4019 idk but i can spam teleports with TF :)

    • @xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58
      @xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@addaine4019 watch F2PKeqing, they actually recommended TF for Keqing since spamming skill is more comfortable than spamming CA

  • @_black_bird
    @_black_bird 7 месяцев назад

    Wait wait, I need to watch this video on my old crt tv

  • @sonadowfiend
    @sonadowfiend 7 месяцев назад

    Look... if Noblesse stacked then my Xingqiu would use it, but it doesn't, and Bennett is using it. That means the rest of the Rational Team including Favonius Xingqiu are using Emblem, and that's just the way it is.

    • @yamsbeans
      @yamsbeans 7 месяцев назад

      u could give bennett the 4 star em buffer set. and have noblesse and xingqiu

  • @alatusedits
    @alatusedits 7 месяцев назад +2

    Farming vermillion till I get better pieces than zyox

  • @Kangoshi_ru
    @Kangoshi_ru 7 месяцев назад +2

    Did the half of the video had to be about Hu Tao and Shimenava's? :)

  • @sueyu7536
    @sueyu7536 7 месяцев назад +1

    i farm gilded. I farm deepwood. i farm emblem. since day 1 they dropped ive been loyal. EVERYDAY. still no good sets. my raiden,xainling and xinqiu share mediocre builds. my Al Haithem i have to share with nahidas set. WHY WHY WHY DOES GENSHIN THINK IM BUILDING GLIDED NOELLE

  • @naomiwilliams1696
    @naomiwilliams1696 2 месяца назад

    i farmed vourukasha/nymph for nearly a year just for a 2pc 2pc yelan build. i dont own nilou, dehya, childe, or ayato.

    • @tasha2749
      @tasha2749 2 месяца назад

      Why???, just why??, assuming you have c6 yelan i don't see any argument using it over 4eosf

    • @naomiwilliams1696
      @naomiwilliams1696 2 месяца назад

      @@tasha2749 4eosf only affects her burst, right? i use every part of her kit and it deals a significant amount more damage than emblem. her c6 doesnt count as burst dmg

    • @tasha2749
      @tasha2749 2 месяца назад

      @@naomiwilliams1696 that why i saying unless u have c6 yelan, well you do have c6 yelan so it kinda make sense playing 2pc2pc, for me personally either i use 4eosf or just ball it with 4MH and on field it with furina
      My on field c0r0 yelan actually has a similar clear time with my c0r1 neuvi and even faster in single target, fucking insane

    • @naomiwilliams1696
      @naomiwilliams1696 2 месяца назад

      @@tasha2749 oh i totally forgot to mention i had c6 lmao. i might do emblem anyway just bc the lack of energy does feel really bad sometimes but my emblem set for her is so bad

    • @tasha2749
      @tasha2749 2 месяца назад

      @@naomiwilliams1696 understandable

  • @AurasShadow
    @AurasShadow 7 месяцев назад

    Hahaha, yeah. I would never farm Vourukasha's Glow to get minimally higher percentages for a high-con Dehya. Definitely not putting half my resin in there, oh no, sir.

  • @therealcrow6933
    @therealcrow6933 7 месяцев назад +1

    anyone explain the thundering fury joke? pls explain...

    • @aries3690
      @aries3690 7 месяцев назад +16

      Zajef loves advertising Thundering Fury Kazuha and Razor teams. Truly one of the theorycrafters of all time

    • @neilgondra7379
      @neilgondra7379 7 месяцев назад +3

      The 4 piece bonus give CD reduction on Elemental skill 1s. when triggering Electro reactions and the neat part is that it also work with other characters in a different element, so you may see Zajef putting characters with TF for the fun of it, and the victims are Bennett, Ayato, Kazuha, etc.

    • @firaelle6962
      @firaelle6962 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@aries3690 common misconception, thundering furry team does not use thundering fury set :)

    • @Doobydoe
      @Doobydoe 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@firaelle6962that's why I thought it was a dumb name for the team comp

  • @irena4929
    @irena4929 7 месяцев назад +5

    Mh+gt>>>>>everything else

    • @destructo3457
      @destructo3457 7 месяцев назад +2

      ☝️🤓

    • @bootstrap925
      @bootstrap925 7 месяцев назад +15

      mh fans when they use a team that doesnt have furina:

    • @bjornnilsson2941
      @bjornnilsson2941 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@bootstrap925No kidding, I had enough and switched my Navia over to GT. Getting tired of her being tied to the hip with Furina, mostly use her as a "surprise MFer" quickswap shotgun blaster anyway 🤣and MH doesn't stack off field. Still by far the best domain to farm for veteran players imo (basically if you've already spent 2 years enslaved in the emblem mines).

  • @willowsofwysteria1568
    @willowsofwysteria1568 7 месяцев назад

    Wait. Where's song of days past and nighttime whispers??. Been farming for my navia, still in vain.

    • @phoenixlau
      @phoenixlau 7 месяцев назад

      Last few seconds of video. He said it's solid if you're farming for Navia.
      Personally I used 0 resin and just threw on some 4pc Golden backstock and called it a day.. Still able to full clear with her like that, but I'm not a Navia "main".

    • @willowsofwysteria1568
      @willowsofwysteria1568 7 месяцев назад

      @@phoenixlau Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. Yeah same, been using golden troupe for her for awhile.

  • @karlliebknecht2987
    @karlliebknecht2987 7 месяцев назад +2

    Vermillion is the best domain in the world and nobody can convince me otherwise LAMENT

  • @drkInxgud
    @drkInxgud 7 месяцев назад

    14:47 that domain is great for c6 yelan

    • @cleod7439
      @cleod7439 7 месяцев назад +9

      At that point, dosent matter what artifacts you're using, it will destroy everything anyway

  • @teriiyaki_god
    @teriiyaki_god 7 месяцев назад

    Vermillion still gives me ptsd

  • @Mega_Milk_Mommy
    @Mega_Milk_Mommy 7 месяцев назад

    I'm glad he is concerned for me

  • @TravelerSaniar
    @TravelerSaniar 7 месяцев назад

    I just started the video, but i swear to god if this guy puts desert pavilion in concerned instead of the second tier because "shimenawa is good on wanderer". Bro shimenawa wanderer is unplayable. First of all his burst actually does good damage so you don't want to just delete it from you kit. Second, without desert pavilion, you atk spd is fucking ass literally unplayable. Third, if you want to get out of flying by taping the skill, this motherfucking set drains your energy for the second time for absolutely no reason

  • @griseo19
    @griseo19 7 месяцев назад

    I clicked as soon as I saw Vermillion

  • @abortedButGoated
    @abortedButGoated 7 месяцев назад

    would never farm maiden's domain

  • @Phantlos
    @Phantlos Месяц назад

    17:13 BASED

  • @volodyan7780
    @volodyan7780 7 месяцев назад

    i farm 2 sets from concern cuz i am already done with 2 sets from good choice om om om

  • @shoppingforleaves3162
    @shoppingforleaves3162 7 месяцев назад +1

    Navia + Whatever the other one is/does is the prettiest combo. Nothing else comes close.

  • @CM_684
    @CM_684 7 месяцев назад +1

    How dare you disrespect vermilion hereafter 😡

  • @Greningas
    @Greningas 7 месяцев назад +3

    Shimenawa Hu Tao? sure id like to burst one per region.

  • @ooochoa
    @ooochoa 7 месяцев назад

    5:59 ?

  • @its_just_N
    @its_just_N 7 месяцев назад +4

    Is this guy incredibly loud or am I just getting old?