The Emperor is a C-Tier God
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Did I make a video about this already? Kinda yeah, but this one had a bit more detail into my thought process behind the Emperor. That and I had writers block, so now we have this.
0:00 - Intro
1:41 - Follower Numbers/Power
5:00 - Follower Loyalty
8:23 - Treatment of Followers/General Living Conditions
10:49 - Unity of his Followers
13:46 - Domain
16:15 - Conclusion
Music:
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Age of Mythology: Chocolate Outline, Slaysenflite, Adult Swim, Eat Your Potatoes, Hoping For Real Betterness, 
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"You're too late god emperor I have already drawn YOU as the soyjak and ME as the chad!"
-Tzeentch probably.
that alone is what keeps big E on the throne
😊 ❤
No sorry that quote is actually from Perty, you assume that Tzeentch is as petty as him.
Then Tzeentch deliberately makes art online depicting the emperor in a chad montage and himself as a discord mod to further the great game.
@@benimel3204 This
I mean c-tier God is pretty decent when he isn’t even a God
The God Emperor of Malice.
He is to be worshiped not as a god, he is to be worshiped as a man
The inquisition will be paying a visit…
@@GenericUser394 (Rogal Dorn voice) IT IS BY HIS WORD!
Yeah being a C-tier god ain't too bad for a guy
Pancreas: “The emperor is not a good god”
Emperor: “Yes! That’s the f*cking point! Finally someone gets it!”
The Big E would unironically like him for this video lol
@@echidnanatsuki882but not the inquisitors.
Me: 'You're not that good a father, or a person either, E.'
Praise The Man-Emperor of Mankind
Imagine actually caring about your faction's gods instead of just using them as Pokemon.
This post was made by the Necron gang.
Your Pokemon can't help you feel the warmth of the sun, or the summer rain.
This post was made by Human gang
@@Lil-ig7br even MORE proof Slaanesh is the best god
@@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong Slanesh cannot make you feel the true satisfaction of sublimating base pleasures for higher purpose.
@@janehrahan5116 STFU tzeetch worhshipper. stop it with your "higher purpose" bullshit you don't even know what your god wants and half the time neither does he. only khorne gives the true sense of direction and honor that the warp can provide. there is no false veil of care, no lies of a better life or wealth only to be backstabbed or tricked with khorne. there is only the nature of war and bloodshed in khorne worship, where pure skill and strength prove ones worth. not prissy warp powers or direct intervention from a power much greater than you allowing victory. what cowardice!
@@janehrahan5116-nurgle gang
I said it last emperor vid and I'll say it again: gork and mork are the best because when their people ask, their people *RECEIVE.*
Unless they don't, which happens quite often
@@Brother_Rony yes, but that because the green mushrooms just aren't believing hard enough.
I mean, chaos-worshippers receive too, they just receive... horrible mutations and afflictions instead of anything remotely good.
@@Brother_Rony they weren't asking 'ard enuff
“Gork, can ya step on my enemies?”
“Ye”
8:52 "human rights as a whole in the imperium are the set up to a joke that ends in you being shot" such a great line for 40k.
more like line from someone who prefer star wars fantasy for babys
and btw that dude is manipulating shit
or as he may actually have said: humanrightsasawholeintheimperiumarethesetuptoajokethatendsinyoubeinshot
maybe missing some silables
S tier: Gork
F tier: Mork
Nuff said 😤
STOOPID HUMIE, GOTZ IT BAKWERDZ
Noooooooo! Mork is S tier!
Gork is shit, obviously a F tier
or wait...was it the other way around...
Gorkcels when I sneak up behind them and then smash them (Mork is better)
WAAAAAAGH!!! BOTH GORK AND MORK ARE S TIER!!!
"He just choose to be a dick" thus making the Horned Rat the ultimate enbodyment of every skaven ever.
I'd just like to point out the only reason Orks occasionally follow nurgle is entirely because he is big and green. Which by ork society is only correct reason to listen to someone.
But Gork 'n Mork is da biggest and greeniest now gimme yor hair squig ya git
To be fair, orks aren't famous for their hygiene standards either. Is that toe fungus edible little ork spores, or a gift from the unclean one? Who's to say, but it spreads good on toast
@@Lunch_Meat Being a fungus themselves are they even capable of the athletes foot?
@@horusluprecal1144 I doubt it's a capability thing and more just how it always is. Orks wouldn't even question if they got some extra green down there
Papa Nurgle be like: hold up, have I make a sentient fungal infection before? Meh, whatever😊
I still find Gork and Mork to be S tier gods. They hold true to their philosophies, despite fighting each other they actually LIKE each other, they actively communicate to their worshipers (Ghaz in this case), have openly provided for them through divine intervention (Ghaz again), and when you die as an ork, you go back to the Great Green only to come back as some other orkoid. He's honestly one of the nicest gods in 40k to his worshipers.
You make very good points Gaijin but I am sorry to say that Gork and Mork are neither Sigmar nor Elves so I can only give them so many points.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Krump yourself
-Gorgutz
Hey Gaijin, didn't expect to see you of all creators out in the comment section of a Warhammer 40k lore vid. I will say that the Emperor is starting to become more active in the galactic affairs. When Mortarion infects and kills Guilliman with the Godblight, the Emperor intervenes. He possesses and revives Guilliman, banishes Mortarion back into the Warp, and unleashes a psychic attack against Nurgle's garden, burning it down in holy fire.
You fight.
You die.
You live again.
Repeat.
As all ork kind should be.
Well, the Chaos Gods like certain aspects of their siblings even though they hate one another.
The difference with the big E compared to most gods of the settings, is that while most others were formed through the coalescence of resonating psychic echoes, (or outright built for a purpose like the Aeldari gods) big E started out as something like the player character in an RPG where they're just overpowered from the begining and eventually get to such a high level that nothing is a challenge anymore. By the time 30K started he was at the height of his power, a force of nature who's only limits were not being able to be in more than one place at one time and not knowing how to Dad. He was still a "guy", but a supremely overpowered one who had his various plans and unbreakable will. He got pumped up into being a god by passively grinding XP and being fed loot crates for 10,000 years, so he's not really a god of "things" but a person who has reached godhood. God of humanity is the closest thing to really narrow it down to. Even though a ton of humanity worships chaos, he is the god of humanity achieving it's own potential and pursuing it's destiny, being led by itself for itself.
This also makes his myriad failings as a person into *really* neat writing. The Emperor's life is simultaneously a celebration of and very cynical commentary on the human condition.
So what you're saying is... The emperor is actually just a guy that got a Gamer system.
But seriously that's probably one of my favourite ideas along with the "revelation spirit circuit" thing where he is basically the human afterlife.
@@Pyre only becuase everyone who has ever written him for the most part fuck it up. Like why why did the dude who hated the emperor get to write him.
@@shadow435100 I wish this was a less common problem in media recently ( I'm a Star Wars fan, so you run the math on how much I feel where you're coming from). But in the absence of better choices, I find it helps to look for the best out of what *is* there.
Even chaos space marines and chaos worshippers see him as a god, so that fuels him even further, its not worship that creates gods in warhammer but belief and action one way or the other.
Regarding what the Emperor is a "god of" I think it's worthwhile to look at the Roman imperial cult, wherein the emperor served as a figure for veneration, and in whose name sacrifices were regularly demanded. He didn't really have any specific attributes like the typical pantheon. He was simply revered as divine.
The Emperor definitely performs roles in the Imperium.
1. He keeps the Astronomicon going, which enables warp travel. This makes him both a Guide and a Martyr.
2. He is a law-giver. The Hierarchies and Laws of the Imperium draw their authority from him.
3. He is a Psycho-pomp/Judge of the Dead. The cult teaches that the Loyal will meet him at the Golden Throne.
@@caad5258 the emperor in the roman empire also performed roles, but the worship of him extended beyond those specific functions, like how common citizens of the imperium will offer big E praise and reverence throughout daily life and not just for guiding their ships
The Emperor of Mankind could be considered as a God of Wayfarers, for his role of guiding ships through the warp. A god of war, protection, law, justice, a god of the dead if him being the sort of human after life is true. A god of magic, or just generally the God of Man
The emperor is a big E-tier god.
This word-pun is not enough to save you from the wrath of the almighty Inquisition, *witch* .
Onto the pyre with her! Glory to the Master of Mankind!
He's also the Big-D in an alternate setting.
@@thehermitman822 What alternate setting?
no, Slaanesh is E tier
@@thehermitman822
BIIIIG D!!!
Now if he said "Such is the power of Mankind." He'd get some bonus points.
That quote fucks so hard
Such is the power of the Waffle House.
Such is the power of Nagash, who was once human
@@maxamillionevergreen8701" NAGASH IS INEVITABLE. I SHALL REMAKE ALL REALITY IN THE IMAGE OF MY SOUL. AND WHEN AT LAST I LOOK UPON THE DESOLATION OF ALL THAT WAS, AND ALL THAT I HAVE WROUGHT, I SHALL CALL IT *GOOD*, AND KNOW CONTENMENT...Nagash is all. And all are one in Nagash."
-Nagash
God, stop, I can only get so [hard].
Fun fact: according to the wiki, Vostario’s soul was saved by Big-E after he betrayed chaos. Most thousand sons as a whole don’t like Tzeench, he constantly screws over the whole legion.
Emperor was never low tier god, he was high tier human
"You should exterminatus ypurself, NOW!" Low Tier Emp
He is still shit at being human. S in power and c to f for the rest.
From my understanding of The Emperor's "domain" it always seemed to just be "God of Humanity". If you're fighting for humanity, whether it's your squad, your regiment, the planet you're defending or even the concept of humanity as a whole it seems to draw his power. He always felt like he embodied the attitude of raging futilely againt the darkness
I'd argue that the emperor set out to create a chaos god of order/control using the imperial truth, but he ended up creating a god of desperation, fear and ignorance from himself. Every chaos god has good aspects and determination could be considered the positive aspect of the emperor.
Yours might be the most accurate in terms of big E being the god of humanity or the tenacity of the human spirit. His entire philosophy is based on the aggressive and hubris nature of manifest destiny. Human kind throughout history no matter how you square it humanity has always been a swarm of weird monkeys that have an obsession with conquering anything that isn’t theirs and never giving it back, and also populating on the same level as bunnies or rats. Conquest was the driving force behind the unification wars and of course the great crusade, and the only reason why the Emperor is the tyrant he is is because humanity has always been beholden to tyranny at any point in history to this very century. Sic Semper Tyrannus and all that
I'm pretty sure his iconography of being a decayed skeleton gives him the domain of Death and Perseverance.
He is Anathema to Nurgle at least, because Nurgle feeds upon the fear of Death of all mortals. The Emperor feeds of the mania of the Martyr.
Except there's no way that the billions of Horus loyalists who were also "fighting for humanity" empowered him, and there's no way the billions of human Tau citizens are empowering him either (even if they still worship him in some capacity).
@@Nukefandango Why not? Loyalist space marines who lose themselves to rage would be fueling Khorne. Why can't the same be true in reverse?
Not a bad ranking for someone that never wanted to be a god
You see the thing about the Emperor that many people new to the lore tend to misunderstand is that Big E loves “Mankind”. Keyword mankind, he doesn’t care about every individual human only the human race as a whole. If he had to wipe out half of humanity to save the other half he’d gladly do it as long as enough people are alive to repopulate. Some like Sigmar on the other hand loves all of his followers and constantly puts his own life on the line to save them because unlike the Big E who was always this Godlike being Sigmar was once a human so he understands them way more.
The idea of the Emperor as a local divinity, or a sovereignty god, is interesting. The sort of god in fantasy and myth who mirrors their domain in all things-so the same way that the emperor is an incredibly powerful corpse clinging desperately to life by eating the lives of his subjects, the Imperium itself does the same on a grander scale.
the emperor do not eat souls.... he becomes stronger because trillions believe in him as god, he sits on the golden throne, far from the atronomica, making sure chaos doesn't overrun the earth after magnus smashed the shields.
he can't manage to run the atronomica together with the golden throne mechanism himself, so 1000 psykers that burn out very quickly in an astropath chorus , he's the only one who can keep sitting on the throne and hold back chaos, but it almost grills him even if he is the strongest to regenerate of the perpetuals, if he didn't have to sit on the throne and get grilled he would quickly be healthy again.
The Emperor is a perfect example of writers tearing down an amazing character through pure incompetence and lack of longtherm planning.
Is the longtherm of oral or rectal variety?
That seems to be a common theme nowadays
I think it’s partly because there nothing you can really do with him now. He dies, every ends. He lives, then he’s just sat in the throne until it one day fails and everything ends.
@@wolvo5441 what if they... heal him? They are the writers.
@@raszota8466 Or come up with a new vessel for his soul to coalesce into.
13:46 since both the emperor and Humanity are stubbornly clinging on to life despite everything i think his Domain would fittingly be considered determination and spite
Considering that saints get more power when things are going good maybe it is a god of determination
Or his domain could be desperation, because the Imperium was desperately struggling for 10k years. But determination, desperation and spite are close to each other, so probably the whole bundle.
I'd argue that the emperor set out to create a chaos god of order/control using the imperial truth, but he's ended up creating a god of desperation, fear and ignorance from himself. Every chaos god has good aspects and determination could be considered the positive aspect of the emperor.
Divine Emprah turned God of Faith/Ignorance
*Listening to the Ecclesiarch fills you with Determination* ❤️
Master of Mankind book did a lot of damage to the Emperor. They made the mistake of explaining Big E when he should have remained a mysterious figure that constantly remains just out of focus for the reader.
Also…
“1v1 me on rust, coward!” Horus when he dropped his void shields
That and at the sametime not explaining enough, him being less Mysterious is Fine because its the HH era but still making his motivations Murky really doesn't help him as a character,
The Big E has the potential to be compeling Anti Villain/Tragic Character but his Backstory and Characterization are all over the place making him less interesting.
Malice above the palace!
The Emperor: Literally prevents the Sol system from turning into a new Eye of Terror through his psychic might sealing a breach in the webway and enables faster than light travel to work for the Imperium, despite being mostly dead.
PancreasNoWork: No he doesn't really do anything for his followers.
Also lights the astronomicon, Judges the dead and occasionally performs miracles.
It's unfortunate that he's avoiding this comment
Also there's the legion of the damned. Aka big E's demons dropping into a battlefield and saving the day when all hope is lost
@@lonewanderer1328 That's a bit harsh.
The astronomicon I’ll give you, but the breach was kinda his own fault for not telling his sons what he was doing. Magnus did nothing wrong/everything wrong aside, if he had been pragmatic enough with his sons and forces to explain at least passably the forces of chaos and corruption and his current webway plan then a lot could have potentially been avoided. But he didn’t, so many primarchs felt abandoned, Magnus tried to help but fucked everything over, Horus got the drop on him as far as we know in lore, and now his empire has become the opposite of what he desired while he himself has become what he hates.
So yes, he does humanity a big help with the galaxies biggest lighthouse, but preventing a new anus from tearing into the galaxy that you and your sons essentially made by fucking each other over by not communicating I’d say doesn’t give you any points.
It’s like if Zeus was the father of Typhon (I know he wasn’t but bear with me) and got credit for defeating the monster he himself made. Or you know what, just go read Frankenstein if you want to see a man do gods work and the. bitch about it becoming a problem as he refuses to do anything to solve it until it starts hurting him specifically.
I’m going to miss PancreasNoWork after the Inquisition takes him away
Aye. He was a right marvelous vid maker but I doubt the Master Chief or Sigmar can protect him.
No inquisitor I never liked him. Him who? Whoever you say oh Lord Inquisitor, by his Name
you miss him? yeah right here, we missed one.
I'm fairly certain that the Emperor's domain is simply humanity itself. The more humanity is up it's own ass the more power the Emperor gets from it, which is why the Holy Human Form is so important in the Imperium.
Gork (or Mork) of humanity
not the god of xenophobia
@@nikolafeschiev3399 Nah, the traitor legions and the dark mechanicus are on the same page when it comes to xenophobia.
He said what it was before when asked by an old man.
"The difference is I know I'm right"
Easily the god of being right, as the eldar made the chaos god of being wrong because of their innate talent to make every mistake possible, and do something stupid in response.
_Meanwhile, at the humans who don't worship the Emperor._
"Sure they're being force fed to him, but that knowledge doesn't un-vore the psyker, now does it."
That legit had me bawling. Good one. X'D
I never even thought about Domain until you said it. The whole 'not wanting to be worshipped' threw me off. But yeah, if I were to guess, it would probably be Protection. I mean, 'The Emperor Protects' is literally the most commonly used phrase. Not to mention the psychic lighthouse that keeps people on the right path. And it fits his personality.
Protection from Chaos.
Protection from The Warp.
Protection from themselves.
The Emperor Protects.
he is basicly a male pallas athene at this point
I have some Personal Suggestions for future videos.
1) Emperor Karl Franz
2) Yvraine, Emissary of Ynnead
3) Huntsmarshal Markus Wulfhart
4) The Salamanders Astarte Chapter
5) Teclis, High Loremaster of Hoeth.
6) there are only two genders
Teclis
Teclis actually already has a script in the making, believe it or not.
And don’t you worry. Karl Franz is coming. It may be March for MaCragge for most, but for this channel it is the month of Sigmarch.
@@pancreasnowork9939 How about Assmus? My character in the Geheimnisnacht mod for CK2?
Or, how about the trist fate of His Grace, the Blessed Lord Piggalo the First, Prince of Tobaro, herald of Golden Ages!?
Summon the elector counts
I think the emperor’s biggest problem is that he is to focused on his end goal rather than the present moment. This is the source of a lot of his mistakes.
I think the big E was an extremely big picture guy but he took the words "big picture " to the extreme. He forgot what was essentially in front of him as well as forgetting that a "big picture" is made of smaller parts. He also took the phrase "my way or the highway" to a horrific conclusion resulting into a snowball effect call the 42nd millennium.
He tried to be lelouch from code geass but only ending up as less sympathetic version of megatron.
@@jonathanathor117 I completely agree
@@jonathanathor117 I don’t think his twelve foot power armor helps with that megatron comparison
@@JustSomeDude42 lol
I think when you are trying to move trillions of people into the webway and starve the chaos gods from power, also all the other secretive and weird things he was doing during the heresy. I dont really think you have time to go around hive cities and give everyone BMWs and oil margaritas or whatever. Its not like he was sitting on his ass doing nothing during the Crusade
Big E becoming the Icon Of Hubris.
It just fits that he would transform into the symbol of pride and arrogance. Sure, he can back only some of it but just makes him double down harder to prove you wrong.
I like this take.
In the Star Control games, the Ir-Quan freed themselves from being a horrifically subjugated slave race and were so traumatised they immediately set about neutralising all other intelligent life in the galaxy. Bend the knee or be destroyed. The Emperor's vision was similar, secure a permanent future for the human race by completely eliminating all potential threats - but this isn't a noble or just cause, it's sheer arrogance along with animal fear and avarice. Can you truly say that humans have any more right to exist than the thousands of races the Emperor genocided "just in case"? The true threat to humanity came from within, as it did before with the Men of Gold.
His biggest mistakes were making a deal with the Ruinous Powers and the Webway project, both of which were staggeringly arrogant, messing with things he had far less knowledge of than he surmised.
He cracked his toilet trying to do unlicensed plumbing because "elves do it so it can't be that hard" and now he can't stand up because his ass is only thing stopping the house from flooding, nice one Emps, real regal.
He is truly a Low Tier God
Prefer him when he is characterized as someone trying his best and being generally good meaning, with everything not going to plan. Makes it more endearing that way
Yeah, I prefer the Emperor as a guy that tried his best, fucked up, got fucked, and is now a sad man stuck to a chair, in constant pain because his followers revere him too much to set him free from it.
He probably developed post traumatic stress syndrome earlier in his life, which only worsened with religious wars and all and worsened further by the cybernetic revolt and the psi-demic afterwords which resulted into the age of strife.
@Don Von Emperor COULD kill himself to end the suffering - he is the strongest mortal psyker in the galaxy after all. And he wouldn't even die - being a perpetual he would eventually return back. BUT that would also end the Imperium because it most likely would not survive the destruction of Sol System, Terra, Astronomicon and basically whole head of government. So, despite the neverending physical and psychic torture for ten thousand years Emperor chooses to stay where he is - because that is buying humanity some more time.
Yeah some people say the whole having zero hope makes it more grimdark but 100% bad just seems grimderp to me.
The way that warhammers factions are usually thematically set up is of once great empires and such on the verge of utopia and eternity failing due to some hubris or other innate flaw found in life.
Especially since if you think about it humanities innate flaws struck them twice first in the tech golden age they fell due to 1. Their arrogance 2. Their over-reliance on their creations and not believing they could be turned against them 3. Underestimating chaos, or in this case the warp which they knew existed for quite a while and even knew of the existence of psykers but for the most part just overlooked those threats.
Then the emperor despite seeing that was 1. Too arrogant believing in his own super intelligence and power 2. Became over-reliant on his creations the primarchs and Astartes believing they couldn't be turned against him 3. Under-Estimated chaos.
The exact mistakes which caused humanity's as a whole downfall being done by the greatest human, its just poetic and tragic especially of he for the most part represented humanities best.
@@mdokuch96 the head of government of the imperium is a useless leeching theocracy that does nothing but siphon resources from the frontlines onto their pleasure worlds.
The Emperor as a character has always had a lot of story potential, but has been handled awfully in practice.
Yeah. They could’ve made him less xeno hating and more human-centric. Kinda like tts emperor. Or do those two words overlap?
@@g.d.dodgeconverse9221 those are the same thing when you have the Eldar that screwed the galaxy over by doing whatever they wanted, Orks that do genocide as a hobby, bugs eating everything, necrons killing everything, and weebs claiming to be "good people".
Every xenos race with a major place is beyond fucked compared to mankind in the setting.
>implying James Workshop can properly write Muad'dib powers
Lol. Lmao
@@thatguyonline5083 Ffs. Smh.
I think it has to do with some of the comings and going that have happened with the GW creative crew. The writing staff use to be more like chill nerds making bad jokes and using personal references. Now that they've gone all corporate and got bigger, they are playing to market standards. Same story you see with the Simpsons or Star wars, really. Always sad to watch
Love how you have age of mythology music playing for your videos. Talk about a nostalgia trip.
An amazing combination of rewriting all of his accomplishments into him needing someone else or turning them irrelevant, his current form being a shattered screaming bunch of emotions and new lore ripping away all of his humanity (with the sole exception of his attitude to Ra) does quite leave a sour taste in my mouth. Especially considering he has been my favorite for quite a while now. From a human so far removed from humanity by evolution yet fighting his hardest to secure a future for his race, willing to sacrifice a lot for the greater good of humanity to whatever this is, a screaming skeleton wanting to be a God, burning everything in his path
I am the complete opposite. Every time they stripped back the golden halo and reveal the lying, genocidal, ruthless ego-maniac he really was, made the setting so much better for me.
@@Kristian.B.Kristiansen For me it made him boring, in the end utterly evil characters are interesting for the first 5 minutes then they get boring and repetitive forever. People trying to accomplish something good, especially if they know what's coming yet using some pretty fucked up means to it retains interest much longer. Just my opinion though
This is what happens when lore is written by an author that doesn't like the subject because minisales go brrr.
@@Kristian.B.Kristiansen Good news, they won't be selling an Emps mini any time soon... because when they do, that'll all be retconned.
@@Brother_Rony the only character that’s completely evil for no reason and is a good character is palpatine from Star Wars
One more note about people leaving chaos. Apparently some storm cast used to be chaos warriors who had the darkness purged from them and swore allegiance in penance. No idea how common that is, but I honestly think that’s such a sick idea it’s worth mentioning
They’re actually cleansed by literally getting beat to death with Ghal Maraz or possibly some other ritual and they MUST have a spark of decency in them to be reforged.
@@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 I always interpreted the whole Ghal Maraz thing as Sigmar just watching that particular battle that much more closely than any other because his personal avatar is on the field. So he can just "see" souls better for lack of a better term, because he's just looking more closely. So maybe he can do that whenever for any worthy candidate? But that's just imo.
@@cthulhubecausewhynot1182 so Ghal maraz can bonk the demon out of you
Wouldn't that be something..if Ghal Maraz suddenly turned up in 40k. Now I know it's mixing the two..but I think stranger things have happened..
This all just sounds like intense torture and brainwashing. Am I the only one getting that vibe?
And how the emperor has a shattered consciousness and is constantly lighting the astronomicon and fighting the chaos gods in the warp and holding endless tides of daemons from coming through the web way gate
I mean…when you compare him to some real world gods he’s pretty much what you’d expect a god of humans would be.
"I'm not a god, b-b-b-baka!"
-The God Emperor of Mankind
Real?
@@LisaWilliams-jb5re Yes, the reason the space marines think he isn't a god is because he explicitly told them so, and unlike other humans who have been living and dying for 10,000 years with the short lifespans, there are still old space marines around who remember. If the Emperor hadn't 'died' on the Golden Throne, and was still around to correct people, he'd 'correct' everyone about his godhood. Of course, in 40k, if enough people collectively believe something, that influences the Warp, and if the Warp gets warped enough, it starts to change reality, so, the Emperor probably is, despite his protestations, a literal Warp God at this point.
Desu
I refuse to like this comment, out of principle. But I'll acknowledge your weebery doth tickled my humour recepticles.
The Horus heresy books have him doing a lot of dumb stuff, especially in regards to how he treats Lorgar or Angron, just so the plot can be pushed towards him being in the Golden throne by the end of it.
My head canon is that he followed his prophetic visions against his better judgment and fucked up or tried to avoid them by doing random shit
Don't forget Magnus! Council , not telling his psykic son about the chaos , whole xenophobia etc.the guy was an idiot.
"which will take place, of course, on rust. Where all 1v1's do". Sometimes you sprinkle in one-liners like this that give me no choice but to like. Keep up the good work.
For someone who never wanted to be considered a god by anyone. He sure wound up with an above average passing grade
For emperors domain - we only need to examine the feelings his faith brings.
The feeling of pride.
The feeling when overcoming the hardships.
The feeling of having a stable order of things in life.
Pride (and Arrogance)
Perseverance (and Hate/Spite)
Hope (and Ignorance)
Order (and Tyranny)
The Goods and Bads of his domain
Paranoia and Disgust are a big feature in the Cult Imperialis. As is Martyrdom, seeking death instead of fearing it.
"the only thing real is my will"
Willpower is probably the main one.
Don't worry. The writers hate him, too. They let him live, but they'll make all of us hate whilst he does.
1 minute hes nice as pie, the next he doesnt give a shit about anyone
Yeah
some of the newer lore is pretty inconsistent
I'd say Empy's domain is perseverance. Every time someone fights and not dies, Empy gets bigger, which makes this cheeky son of a canine absolutely unkillable, unless everyone in the galaxy, all races, all gods, every single xeno, flops and dies.
The Emperor Protects, after all.
Id agrue his domain is martyrdom. Every time somebody dies in his name, it empowers him and allows him to bless those who remain so that they may live on. Big e himself sacrificed himself so that humanity might survive
It's funny how people compare Emps to Sigmar when, if anything, he's way closer to Nagash in terms of morality.
As for Azathoth: Some old lore describes "The Great Beast of Chaos Undivided". Under this interpretation the other Chaos gods are merely separate shards of its insane mind. I've always considered it to be similar enough to The Blind Idiot God to have some Undivided cultists refer to Azathoth in the Warhammer and 40k RPGs I run.
Good call. It looks like GW is wanting to expand their chaos lore beyond just the regular 4 Gods (fans of malice and the dude the chaos dwarves worship rejoice) and it wouldn't surprise me if they take some inspiration from the great old ones and lovecraftian lore to do so
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Malice, Hashut (chaos dwarf god), Vashtorr, Be'lakor, all of them
Somebody spitting facts.
Now Star Child, on the other hand…
Picks up a phone and starts to dial the number of a local Inquisitor...
Heresy released at the time of breakfast for me? Exactly the content I've subbed for!
I think the emperor isn't a god yet. He's like Vashtor, he has power within the warp and benefits from worsip but he hasn't risen to become one yet. He is technically still alive as a mortal.
I could see that, actually. Big E being like a lich for now, powered by technology and psychic powers and incredibly powerful for it, but not yet a true god.
I figured out why I like these videos so much. It feels like im being talked to, not explained to. Its so casual like two pal's just havin a chat. Not to mention i find the jokes, and the bias actually rather refreshing as lore talkers (try) to be as opinionated as a servitor. Dare i say, i like the casual nature of your videos. Good Work, PancreasNoWork
I appreciate the FTL music used in the background. It brings back fond memories.
This was really well thought out. Would you be willing to make this a series? As in, you give tier list ranking to fictional deities using these categories. That could be very cool.
I watched PancreaNoWork, then my worst enemy had his Pancreas stop working. I think Mr. NoWork is the best god of this mortal realm
God's don't care for the weak. Those who wait and for their enemies to fall, carry no favor.
I would say that the best god in warhammer in being an interesting diety that cares about there followers would be Grimnier, the man is so badass that he held off one of the main points of deamon invasions for tens of thousands of years, and to do this he made a look with so much drip that when dwarfs could start bursting into flame and not dying they immediately cosplayed him, and to do this feat he didn't take the best weapons and armor he could get, he gave away half his axes and all of his armor so the dwarf race who needed it more could use it while he singlehandedly cut off untold millions of deamons from advancing out into the world, and is the sole reason that gotrek was able to do a quarter of the things he could do
I look forward to all your videos with or without writer's block
Some advice for overcoming writer's block (if you even want it), jump past the point you're writing and move onto another part of the script. When you get to the end, you can over the script again and fill in any holes, make any corrections or whatever, and then finalise the script on the third draft. By just pushing, you keep a good rhythm going, and by the time you get to the first revision, the mental stimulation will have helped move you past the block.
It's what I do whenever I'm writing, and while it isn't foolproof, it mostly works.
Yes inquisitor, this one right here.
Yeah, C-tier is a compliment to Big E. I can understand with how powerful he is compared to the other gods. He has the most influence out of any god and his powers that constantly grind all four Chaos Gods into a galaxy wide stalemate. His personality and attitude are his only downside. He's a crap father and a malicious egocentric tyrant. But as a God where those things aren't needed he is the most powerful of every God in terms of strength and followers.
It's hard to see him as egocentric because of where he sits right now.
The thing is though if your talking about how he's written he gets a negative F he's just do poorly written its not funny, in the HH he's sometimes just objectively the badguy in the primarch emperor relationship that gives the primarch more reasons to worship satan 1 to 4 then to remain loyal to him, but others he basically he takes tons of care in raising, then you have the fact that apparently in 30k times they still were making things like servitors and babies into fax machines, so it's not even like he made a decent system of government, he just made hell, and made 20 demigods to spread hell to all of humanity incase any of them had a decent life out there in the stars
@@calebbarnhouse496 Do you have any specific moments when he is the bad guy in primarch relationships? Angron I think is the only one.
@Mikael Anton Kurki angron is the worst one, he basically kidnaps him, forces him to murder millions instead of healing him like he could if he just wanted to, when he rolled up to Konrad he blinded hundreds of people at minimum and basically ignored the fact that he gave him a final destination vision of himself while he was undergoing the largest mental breakdown possible the Kahn he just told him he'd kill him if he didn't serve him, the emperor challenged russ to like 6 competitions and lost everytime so he just assaulted him like a petulant child, magnus he gave super psychic powers but never put effort into making sure he'd be safe from chaos manipulating him, lorgar literally had a happy life as a religion founder, then big E pretty much just called him cringe and had him spread his religion, despite the fact he hated religion, so he was either desperate to get moving (but not so desperate he gave the dead 2 primarchs legions) or so uncaring that he just didn't know he was still religious after he told him he wasn't allowed, then you have the sons he liked and practically jerked off to really feed into the reason primarchs would hate him, like practically worshipping golden vampire wannabe himself, and giving codex boy the best legion at everything, oh then he makes 2 builder primarchs, one he gives the task of making the most glorious palace of all of history, the other he just has build whatever idea furniture the imperium finds out and about
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Angron: There was no guarantee that he could have healed angron. The nails had replaced parts of his brain.
That whole blinding people on nostramo was an accident.
Russ challenged the Emperor three times. Emperor only threw a few insults after which Russ chanllenged the Emperor to a fight.
Lorgar was a murderous genocidal zealot who killed a third of colchis population and executed pogroms on the worlds he was bringing into compliance. By the time of monarchia he had drunk the cool aid and was beyond reason-.
Primarchs were adults Who should have been able to handle themselves without the Emperor's supervision.
I think the Emperor might be the God of Fear. The Imperium runs on Fear. Fear of the future, fear of the past, fear of the men leading them, fear of the men under them. From the lowest menial slave to the very high lords all are in a near constant state of fear.
We got skaven levels of fear up in this bitch
FEAR
DENIES
FAITH
ergo faith in the Emperor, in the setting, is mutually exclusive with fear of all kinds
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Faith is Fear. "Fear the Lord" and all that.
Love your kinda tier list, looking forward to you having a look at that demon who is currently kinda trying to become the 5th chaos god, and possibly a list of all the smaller 40k aliens we don't see on the tabletop. 1d4chan has a big old list that's fun to read.
A tier list of 40k gods sounds interesting, would watch it
Personally, I always suspected, largely due to coming into 40K in its 3rd edition when the lore was at its bleakest and Games Workshop wasn't trying to desperately retcon the Imperium as the brave, heroic, "hard men making hard choices" One True Hope For Humanity faction, that the Emperor was not a god and never was one, but instead was merely just a very lucky but perfectly mundane tyrant whose cult of personality has grown to unprecedented heights. He may indeed have been a powerful psyker with access to some incredible Dark Age of Technology macguffins, but he was never the "living true god and humanity's savior" - that's just what 10,000 years of unchallenged propaganda and mythifying has made him into in the eyes of the modern Imperium.
It’s a wonder what the imagination can come up with when the lore’s not over-explored and poorly written, isn’t it? 😅
my take: the emperor wasn't a god, but centuries of humans worshipping him turned him into one, with how the warp works
I only accept him as the gestalt of human shamans and sorcerors, who for thousands of years tried to change humanity's nature, theres nothing mundane about him. Not a god tho..
Nothing that you described the emperor as is mutually exclusive of him being a god. You can be a god, and a psyker. God, and a man. God, and a mortal even. Pagans worshipped mortal rulers as gods. It doesnt mean that they were wrong, it just means that what is and is not a god is subjective.
From what Luetin09 has pointed out, the God Emperor has gone through a shit ton of perspectives and forms, all generally given from the different authors of novels and lore. He's a dick at times, at times he does the best for humanity, but also keeps his own agenda relevant. His psyker abilities are unmatched and he mostly helps his people when it is necessary or when he actually can. He understands the irony of what he established and what ended up happening in a huge "Reverse Psychology" type situation, however he may had initially thought of an outcome.
Hey man just wanted to say i liked the background music for this vid lol
Who is the ultimate S-tier God in your opinion?
I actually think nagash is awesome because of how hilariously cartoon villain he is. Also, he actually made a video on gods better than big E a while ago if that's what your asking.
Probably sigmar because of karl franz
Nurgle is pretty damn good
@@guywholikesmemes4993 Nagash has lost every single major conflict he’s a part of
He’s an F-tier god.
@@brianwalsh1339 I did say cartoon villain.... *for a reason.*
I do wonder how reliable the Gulliman account of the emperor actually is, Big E seems to make himself appear how you expect him to look and humans in 30k or 40k mostly just think the Big E should be a 10ft tall gigachad because they are secretly orks so guy in charge is big (iirc it's kind of implied he might not actually be able to control this, Corax briefly sees him as a normal human sized dude before he stops being able to see through it) but pretty sure Guilliman wasn't expecting anything good in there and that's what he got. Or could even go for even more all according to plan memes for Big E and what Guilliman needed there (as far as Big E is concerned anyways) wasn't support from Big E but a kick in the pants to just go do something because Guilliman thinks he's the Imperium's last hope.
Interesting!
Its true
There is a passage that describee him in the view of a Silent Sister
Basically saying He just looks like a normal man
Knowing that they csnnot see psyker power or the effects of the warp, we can assume this is thr best description of thr Emperor
So it oretty much validates your opinion 100%
Now we need a tier list video
It's worth noting that the reason the Eldar gods are so strong despite their numbers is because they were literally bred to have a bright soul within the warp and to be able to easily manifest the powers/psychical forms of those Gods in the materium (something the Chaos Gods struggle to do even at their current height of power).
How many gods do you have?
Warhammer: a lot
SCP: yes
I just see the god emperor as Games workshop itself. All powerful beings who continually succeed despite being a genuinely awful entity because humanity has convinced themselves there are no real alternatives. and propaganda.
Tons and tons of propaganda, especially from people who think that as long as the crazy mf is an atheist and is enforcing atheism, the dude is right in being an oppressive genocidal maniac.
By what metric? I think the emperor is a casualty of people expecting perfection from people claiming to want to do good while searching under every rock for any redeeming quality of actual evil to hold up and say “see it’s not actually that bad.”
@@II-wu7mx That's kinda what he said, tho
@@Artemisarrowzz the emperor isnt “a genuinely awful entity” in my opinion. He’s the saint.
@@II-wu7mx Ah then, you are insane indeed but a valid opinion
I don't know if you have heard this before but I love your voice! It's so soothing ❤️
Loved this, many thanks! 💪🎉
The emp was never supposed to be a good god, he was elevated to god hood by belief in him while he's basically almost dead.
He doesnt even have a hammer, just look at Sigmar, that's a God
1v1 on rust,Emps against Khorne sounds interesting
Khorne would try to knife him and the big E would have some big scheme to bait him into a highly convoluted trap that has a 20% chance of working
C tier god
This is like ranking a level 20 wizard from D&D as an intermediate god. Like completely just blowing demi gods and lesser gods out of the water power wise. That’s really fucking good
"that knowledge doesn't unvore the psycher does it?"
absolutely dying, so glad the yt algorithm recommended your channel to me, you've got such a wonderful way with words in describing my favorite settings
If the people knew everything that Big E did and how he could’ve changed and helped his sons yeah a lot more people would hate or be uneasy and especially saying you’re not a god then becoming a god through worship and giving certain people living saint status too he’s a balanced piece of work both made of gold and copper
ZZZ!!!
He always was a god, because a god is a subjective status. If people worship him as one, then he is one.
Big E's demonic legions of skull faced flamey dudes and magic resurrecting saint ladies should improve his standing somewhat.
But are they eldar? If no then you have the elf simps answer.
Oy, i heard that age of mythology music in there, thanks for making me replay that masterpiece
Love the FTL background music!
In AOS, a majority of mortals, whether they be human, elf, dwarf, etc, worship chaos in some form. So the non-chaos gods in AOS really don't that great of a following.
How dare you provide legitimate points AGAINST The Emperor.
I like Malal being unable to come back due to legal reasons, it encourages GW to be more mysterious with him, and it fits him.
Plus I like to throw him into "who would win" battles against poorly written scp characters.
"Oh, you can manipulate the very narrative of fiction to delete your opponent? Malal's already tanked that before, try again."
8:22 Very few followers of the emperor that betray him join chaos, most often they simply rebel and start making their own goverment system untill the astra militarum shows up
you could say hes a Low Tier God
"You said Chaos is inspirational ? Get that ass banished !"
@@mightykanohii Look at these xeno SCRUBS doing the SAME OLD TACTICS OVER AND OVER!
My personal headcannon regarding Big E is that he's basically a weapon from the Dark Age of Technology (A Man of Gold maybe?) who was unleashed by Malcador from the Terran vaults. Moreover I believe that he did everything he could for the good of humanity, but did it all while taking the idea of moral relativism to the extreme.
That Age of Mythology music in the background is pure dopamine for me. Good memories... also fitting for the subject matter!
love hearing that FTL soundtrack in the background
I remember reading about how the Emperor was a near complete failure, and his incompetence is legendary. Consider how his every action leading up to and after the creation of the Imperium directly empowered the Chaos Gods. Constant wars, betrayals (Thunder Warriors being a cited example) and lies, excess of the Imperium's "nobles" and the aforementioned deaths and now decay of the Imperium and it's worlds.
I love the fact that Emperor is just like any human
He have flaws, he make alot of mistake, he isn't the best dad
Can't imagine what the Emperor would react to the Inquisition and the Church
I love your aos and fantasy videos
I would 100% watch a 40k god ranking series. please more
"Un-vore the psyker"
There's a new phrase
If the emperors true physical appearance ever gets revealed im hoping he looks like Keanu Reeves
supposedly his true appearance is 'remarkably unremarkable'
make of that what you will
@@thejuiceking2219 I thought he looked like that vaguely Mediterranean dude that art always depicts him as.
Thanks for using the Age of Mythology OST. Had forgotten how good it actually is.
ayy congratulations on 100k subs