Rediscovering the Chinese Long Sword
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Rediscovering the Chinese Long Sword looks at the 2,000 year long history of Chinese Two-handed Swords and Swordsmanship in China. The first half of this documentary focuses on the history and development of long swords in the middle kingdom. Scott M. Rodell presents Miaodao and Dandao techniques and cutting for the second half.
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Time Codes
0:18 Historical Overview
0:26 Qin Dynasty Swords
0:56 Han, Sui and Tang Dynasties
1:05 Differential Heat Treating of Chinese Swords
1:25 Song Dynasty Yue Fei Dao
2:00 Yuan Dynasty
2:25 Ming Rebirth of Two-Handed Sabers
3:14 The Changdao
3:32 Two-Handed Swords in the Qing Dynasty
4:07 Dadao of the Chinese Republic
4:50 Martial Applications of the Chinese Two-Handed Saber
5:01 The Bengtiao Kan Cuts
5:30 The Ci Pi Cuts
6:01 The Pi Ya Ji Cuts
6:32 The Ji Cut
6:55 The Heng Pi Cuts
7:15 The Hui Cut
7:48 The Shi Cut
8:14 Summation
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We produced this video back in 2006 (I think) for the First International Sword Festival in Narva, Estonia. Back then, few had heard of this Chinese tradition.
And we are glad you did.
Great video. I'm glad you did a video on this back then when folks hadn't heard of these things. Nowadays, people such as LK Chen are forging ancient Chinese longswords based on historical examples and helping bring more exposure to them via RUclipsrs such as Scholagladitoria and Skallagrim.
Very knowledgeable, accurate and compendious even by Chinese standards. As a Chinese myself, I really appreciate your efforts of studying, preserving and teaching these invaluable Chinese cultural legacy and arts. You are one of most insightful Western Chinese martial artists I've seen so far.
Thanks for your support!
We have more videos focusing on Qing period swords coming this Autumn...
Always wanted a Miaodao! Such a stylish weapon
Have you seen that Rodell Laoshi's Design is coming? They can be pre-ordered at Seven Stars Trading Co's Website.
www.sevenstarstrading.com/store/p/cutting-miaodao-designed-by-scott-m-rodell
@@mugenGRTC thank you for this
Interesting to hear / see a use case for the reverse grip (which is overused in movies).
Very impressive video. So informative. The Miao Dao is also also really interesting weapon. Especially for HEMA guy that practised with the Longsword a bit in the past. At the moment I am more into studying the single handed jian (cannot wait until my cutting jian arrives) but in the future i also might get into the Miao Dao techniques and get a replica of it.
While my primary focus is Jianfa, I've found training in Miaodao and Dandao techniques and form to be an excellent compliment.
I am impressed. You do really know a lot about chinese warfare.
The martial applications looks great. This looks like the place where want to learn chinese swordmenship
Thanks brother. If you are interested, check out the Academy of Chinese Swordsmanship. You can find the link in the description above.
Covered a lot of history and sword typology! Great resource, laoshi. 🙏
Thanks, more coming.
Heck, this is well informed even by Chinese standard! Admirable work.
Thanks.
very good demonstration!
Thanks.
thanks great video!
Thanks my friend.
Wonderful! Thank you!
Thanks, we appreciate the feedback. Let us know what other videos you would like to see?
Excellent video! Great quality production and content. Very well done!
Thanks for the feedback, we always love hearing that!
What's the difference between the Yue Fei Dao and the Zhanmadao? Or there isn't any?
They are quite similar, but he Yue Fei Dao has a longer grip, one that is nearly as long as the blade. Some might consider the Yue Fei Dao a polearm, but since the blade generally is longer that the blade, it can be considered a Saber. Though it is right on the line. Zhanmadao have shorter blades, close to the blade to hilt length ratio seen on the Miaodao I am wielding I this video. Zhanmadao have a different blade form though.
@@smrsevenstarstradingco.241 The Yue Fei Dao looks like a good battlefield weapon. I wonder why it wasn't widely adopted during the Ming Dynasty.
Do you have a book on how to use Chinese Sword
Rodell Laoshi has published 10 Books on Chinese Martial arts, all of which can be found on Amazon. Some of these are translations of classic manuals. Just search for Scott M. Rodell. He is also teaching every weekend online at the Academy of Chinese Swordsmanship- www.chineseswordacademy.com/
I'd be very interested in your interpretations of the techniques from Mao Yuan-Yi's Wu Bei Zhi. It's probably a bit out of the way for you, but I'm certain that there are many people that would find two handed (or at least hand and a half) jian techniques fascinating on this channel.
Mao Yuan-Yi's sword work is quite interesting and we had begun work on reconstructing it. Honestly, the attempts presented thus far appear to be imitating European longsword rather than following the principles of Chinese swordsmanship. Unfortunately, we had to pause that project due to travel restrictions (I was working on it with Canadian students), and the demands of setting up the online Academy of Chinese Swordsmanship. But it has not been forgotten, just paused... Thanks for your interest and support. Stay Strong.
@@scottm.rodellgrtc2969 Seconded on being interested to see how you interpret Mao Yuan-yi's sword techniques.
I mess with those techniques myself and they seem pretty straightforward.
@@WhiteApeMA I also have been studying two handed jian techniques with the Wu Bei Zhi and started a recent club for it with eskrima classmates. Unfortunately, the book does not go into explicit detail about the techniques and often times we do have to "fill in the gaps" with hema tips. It's not easy, reviving the two handed jian. I can see why sifu rodell says it's like imitating European longsword, the manual just isn't informative enough.
Agreed. It is pretty vague in a number of it's verses. But I suppose that's part of the appeal. Comes down to the interpreter and their view. The core principles in most are relatively understandable, but many of the nuances are not.
This can definitely lead to a good bit of variation in execution.
Excuse me but you made a little mistake with the terminology. The method of differential HEAT TREATMENT is actually used for the hardening Prozess of European swords, that is different from the differential HARDENING, that describes the Prozess you’re referring to for Chinese and Japanese swords.
I have a question about the cup shaped disc guard found on Niuweidao. When the it appear and why was it not found on other daos? It seems to be a much superior design than the traditional flat disc guard
The flanged disk guard, or cupped guard, was an innovation that allowed guards to be constructed with less metal. That’s it. It appeared in mid-Qing most likely as guards began to be made more frequently from brass instead of iron.
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@@smrsevenstarstradingco.241 That’s very interesting. You guys should do a collaboration with Matt Easton, he’s a European weapons expert and reviewed several Han dynasty sword replicas. Recently he looked at the flanged cup guard from an outsider’s perspective:
ruclips.net/video/U9-_7YLvf0I/видео.html
@@johnyricco1220 Interesting thought, pass us on to him if you like. I don't know if he is aware of our work. He has yet to contact me concerning anything Chinese.
@@scottm.rodellgrtc2969 I will, but I doubt he will respond to a request from me though. Another question, I wonder if you could answer why Manchu Imperial Guards wore their sabers on their left with the handle pointed behind them. As a former Iaido student I don’t understand how they could draw the sword quickly.
@@johnyricco1220 The Qing fashion of wearing swords with the grip pointing to the rear kept it out of the way of the bow holster, which had the bow facing forward. Keep in mind that the Bow was the primary and favored weapon of the Manchus. There are even accounts of them shooting enemies in battle at just 2 meters. And though we may love the sword art, practically speaking, it made more sense in their time to shoot an enemy at 50 meters than to fight one close up with a sword.
With the sword grip facing rear, the quick draw is preformed by the left hand grips catching the scabbard and rotating it on either a vertical plane for a downward pi cut. Or on the horizontal, for either a Liao of Hua cut.
很遗憾，在中国国内这种兵器也很少有人练习了，唉😔
Huang te Tai Chin Tai nan ih Kong Sau tao te Ming kong yu nenng Jian Cheng te Hai she huang
Ming jian
Cher Chin zai fu zao fu Tong Hui Jong han Ming jian
Ru bi jia wu Jian gu Jian nan Jian ca hsien Chun San Hai Re zuo binn
Nodachi wannabe weapon
At least the Chinese have usable routines for theirs :P
Except the nodachi was first invented in the 5th century and a double handed jian dates back to 300BC so there's 800 years difference but I'm sure a weeb like you wouldn't care, just like how your favorite katana is just a curved zhibeidao that the Japanese imported from China during the Shang dynasty. Do you know why they had to curve it? Because even while using the swordsmithing techniques they learned from China their own iron sand metal was just inferior and the straight swords they made all broke too easily so they had to curve it. That's also why they needed to fold their steel a thousand times by the way, to remove all the impurities just so that it could be a little bit better unlike the superior European and Chinese steel. Even then their traditionally forged katanas were still too easily broken, that's why your hero Miyamoto Musashi preferred using wooden swords.