Thanks for sharing! You don’t need an attenuator for this, the scope inputs are millivolts. The pattern shown was definitely a spark issue outside of the cylinder. Either a failing coil or carbon tracking on the boot or porcelain on the plug.
@tomlombardo85 Thanks!!! I appreciate that. I know there will always be keyboard warriors but there will be more of the good comments so thanks for that. And keep watching. I try to post Monday thru Thursday every week.
You don’t want to use an attenuator when using the cop coil wand. It’s already a low voltage coming through the pickup. Mainly just for coil primary testing as that’s about the only time you’ll see inductive kicks that high
1. Reminder to customers: DO NOT buy your "OEM" parts from Amazon or eBay -- TOO MANY FAKES. 2. I convinced customer to buy OEM, $512 MAF sensor. I REALLY had to sell the whole "OEM SUPERIORITY" thing. Well, the new MAF had a glitch, cost me a day of troubleshooting, a frowning customer, and a bunch of lip from dealer parts guy. Dealer didn't even have another MAF for days, so i reluctantly went with STANDARD IGNITION for only $160ish. Car ran great & passed smog next day. Customer confused and gave me dirty look for not going with cheaper part to begin with 😞.
@hightttech 100% correct it can happen. and never amazon especially electronics parts. I dont usually buy dealer parts ever. unless its chrysler then small electronics i prefer like crank sensors. mainly i prefer them not to buy duralast red box or carquest basic. those are usually very cheap parts that can do the same as you dealer one more times then not. Hey thanks for sharing and watching i appreciate it.
First time I heard dark side of the moon was in a head shop in Dallas, Texas. I walked in Black lights were on, the posters were up, hash pipes everywhere,rolling papers, etc, Time was playing on record player- made s big impact on my young mind.
@300rss Your comment brings back a ton of memories of going into old places like that down in South Florida. But for the life of me I have to be missing something in my video here on what it might mean? Please elaborate I want to know??? Thanks for watching the video by the way.
The whole waveform is seen from the secondary side of the coil windings. In the part you call primary, you are watching the magnetic field build across the secondary coil windings. That is why it ocsillates as the field increases in intensity. Granted it is because the primary circuit has been energized. It looks like the primary coil windings might be shorted and not building a strong magnetic field. When the primary is switched off, the plug gap fails to ionize and the energy rings back and forth through the coil itself to dissipate.
@VashthStampeede That is probably the most accurate way to explain that very good way that you worded that thank you. I am not great. Shakes and trying to explain the technical side to people especially on camera. Still getting used to that. But yes, you are 100% correct the coil that failed on that wave form where it drops down to start building the primary circuit. It can’t do it and then the secondary when it tries to fire the plug. It just doesn’t have the energy to be able to fire the plug at all. But again, thank you for taking the time to make a good explanation for it especially when I can’t do that in my video so hopefully somebody will come along and read your comment and learn something from it. Thank you again thanks for watching.
back in the late 70s everyone that had a hotrod put on a MSD Ignition (multi spark distributor ignition) don't know if ford copied it or not but was same 3 strike ignition
Typically everything to the left of and including the spike is outside the cylinder and to the right is inside the cylinder. It is also useful to snap the throttle to see what happens when the cylinder pressure is higher .
@keltecshooter You’re 100% correct. Also, I saw that last night. I double checked some of my stuff when I was editing to make sure I wasn’t telling someone 100% wrong only showing them what I was doing wrong. I watched Scanner Danners video and he was snapping that throttle to try to see if the Spark line would change or alter any of that stuff so definitely a good thing to remember next time I’m using that or if I’m back pinning into the actual coil itself. Again thanks for commenting and checking out my channel in my videos. I really appreciate it.
there is a company that makes a handheld stand alone coil on plug tester have thought about getting one from the video i saw it has a better signal than the paddle
@philh9238 It looked like the primary side could build up enough to fire the secondary. In the beginning of the video you’ll see the initial Build up time of the good coil vs the bad.
AES Wave has a cheap one that came with my UScope it works great. from what i hear all of them work about the same cheap or expensive. youtube channel Gadgets shows how to make one and compared them all about the same. my understanding using the paddle is more for finding the difference and the one that is different usually is the bad one thats my understanding not sure if correct
I agree I think to find the different one if you don’t have codes then you can get a bit deeper with back probing the pins with the scope. But th coil is under intake so it worked out great I think and I feel it’ll help someone looking for the tool. I tried finding videos on it and couldn’t find much.
I always compare the one bad to the others so I can see what they look like. I'm self taught on the scop as well. Awesome job on that.. I have a little more time with the scop and scan tool then you but your doing just fine keep it up. Nice video as well.
@georgedawsonjr450 tanks yea this scope and autel tool is new to me ive always used snap on scanner for past 20 years but never a scope maybe the slightest graph function to watch O2 sensors but thats the most of it. thanks for commenting i appreciate it
different subject i ordered a screen protector for my google pixel 9 pro that was a film not glass and has a matt finish the glare goes away not sure if they make for your scanner but could probably order by screen size and your glare problems will go away also does away with finger prints as well
just wanted to add your videos are 1st class you show how it is in real life if anyone doesn't enjoy they have the problem and should move on, keep doing what you are doing i cannot find any fault with your videos you just like everyone else doesn't know it all and will make mistakes
@DependableAutoTruck thank you very much i appreciate it. that's exactly how i want my channel to be. 100% percent real life so if anyone else wants to do it they see exactly how it is.
Thanks for sharing! You don’t need an attenuator for this, the scope inputs are millivolts. The pattern shown was definitely a spark issue outside of the cylinder. Either a failing coil or carbon tracking on the boot or porcelain on the plug.
@bartscave
thank for that info!! these are the comments I like, helpful things! thanks again!
Cover the intake holes as soon as you pull the plenum off. Great video.
Appreciate your candidness. I'm definately hear to learn, not throw stones.
@tomlombardo85
Thanks!!! I appreciate that. I know there will always be keyboard warriors but there will be more of the good comments so thanks for that. And keep watching. I try to post Monday thru Thursday every week.
You don’t want to use an attenuator when using the cop coil wand. It’s already a low voltage coming through the pickup. Mainly just for coil primary testing as that’s about the only time you’ll see inductive kicks that high
@Jpilgrim30
thank you for clarifying. i truly didn't know if i should or not. thanks again for watching
1. Reminder to customers: DO NOT buy your "OEM" parts from Amazon or eBay -- TOO MANY FAKES.
2. I convinced customer to buy OEM, $512 MAF sensor. I REALLY had to sell the whole "OEM SUPERIORITY" thing. Well, the new MAF had a glitch, cost me a day of troubleshooting, a frowning customer, and a bunch of lip from dealer parts guy. Dealer didn't even have another MAF for days, so i reluctantly went with STANDARD IGNITION for only $160ish. Car ran great & passed smog next day. Customer confused and gave me dirty look for not going with cheaper part to begin with 😞.
@hightttech
100% correct it can happen. and never amazon especially electronics parts. I dont usually buy dealer parts ever. unless its chrysler then small electronics i prefer like crank sensors. mainly i prefer them not to buy duralast red box or carquest basic. those are usually very cheap parts that can do the same as you dealer one more times then not. Hey thanks for sharing and watching i appreciate it.
First time I heard dark side of the moon was in a head shop in Dallas, Texas. I walked in Black lights were on, the posters were up, hash pipes everywhere,rolling papers, etc, Time was playing on record player- made s big impact on my young mind.
@300rss
Your comment brings back a ton of memories of going into old places like that down in South Florida. But for the life of me I have to be missing something in my video here on what it might mean? Please elaborate I want to know??? Thanks for watching the video by the way.
The whole waveform is seen from the secondary side of the coil windings. In the part you call primary, you are watching the magnetic field build across the secondary coil windings. That is why it ocsillates as the field increases in intensity. Granted it is because the primary circuit has been energized. It looks like the primary coil windings might be shorted and not building a strong magnetic field. When the primary is switched off, the plug gap fails to ionize and the energy rings back and forth through the coil itself to dissipate.
@VashthStampeede
That is probably the most accurate way to explain that very good way that you worded that thank you. I am not great. Shakes and trying to explain the technical side to people especially on camera. Still getting used to that.
But yes, you are 100% correct the coil that failed on that wave form where it drops down to start building the primary circuit. It can’t do it and then the secondary when it tries to fire the plug. It just doesn’t have the energy to be able to fire the plug at all. But again, thank you for taking the time to make a good explanation for it especially when I can’t do that in my video so hopefully somebody will come along and read your comment and learn something from it. Thank you again thanks for watching.
back in the late 70s everyone that had a hotrod put on a MSD Ignition (multi spark distributor ignition) don't know if ford copied it or not but was same 3 strike ignition
Typically everything to the left of and including the spike is outside the cylinder and to the right is inside the cylinder.
It is also useful to snap the throttle to see what happens when the cylinder pressure is higher .
@keltecshooter
You’re 100% correct. Also, I saw that last night. I double checked some of my stuff when I was editing to make sure I wasn’t telling someone 100% wrong only showing them what I was doing wrong. I watched Scanner Danners video and he was snapping that throttle to try to see if the Spark line would change or alter any of that stuff so definitely a good thing to remember next time I’m using that or if I’m back pinning into the actual coil itself. Again thanks for commenting and checking out my channel in my videos. I really appreciate it.
in the middle of the burn line is the separation point, left out side right of center in cylinder
there is a company that makes a handheld stand alone coil on plug tester have thought about getting one from the video i saw it has a better signal than the paddle
So what was wrong with the old coil? Was there an issue with the coil boot and arcing in the plug tube or an actual coil issues
@philh9238
It looked like the primary side could build up enough to fire the secondary. In the beginning of the video you’ll see the initial Build up time of the good coil vs the bad.
AES Wave has a cheap one that came with my UScope it works great. from what i hear all of them work about the same cheap or expensive. youtube channel Gadgets shows how to make one and compared them all about the same. my understanding using the paddle is more for finding the difference and the one that is different usually is the bad one thats my understanding not sure if correct
I agree I think to find the different one if you don’t have codes then you can get a bit deeper with back probing the pins with the scope. But th coil is under intake so it worked out great I think and I feel it’ll help someone looking for the tool. I tried finding videos on it and couldn’t find much.
I always compare the one bad to the others so I can see what they look like. I'm self taught on the scop as well. Awesome job on that.. I have a little more time with the scop and scan tool then you but your doing just fine keep it up. Nice video as well.
@georgedawsonjr450
tanks yea this scope and autel tool is new to me ive always used snap on scanner for past 20 years but never a scope maybe the slightest graph function to watch O2 sensors but thats the most of it.
thanks for commenting i appreciate it
different subject i ordered a screen protector for my google pixel 9 pro that was a film not glass and has a matt finish the glare goes away not sure if they make for your scanner but could probably order by screen size and your glare problems will go away also does away with finger prints as well
@DependableAutoTruck
Thanks for the tip I’ll get on Amazon now to see about one. Because that surely is annoying to see that screen
just wanted to add your videos are 1st class you show how it is in real life if anyone doesn't enjoy they have the problem and should move on, keep doing what you are doing i cannot find any fault with your videos you just like everyone else doesn't know it all and will make mistakes
@DependableAutoTruck
thank you very much i appreciate it. that's exactly how i want my channel to be. 100% percent real life so if anyone else wants to do it they see exactly how it is.
It reminds me a bit of diesel injection first time I see it in gasoline thank you
@ashercohen4739
thank for watching and commenting !