@@kvu236 whats sad is that you put an effort to seek out videos of a game you despise and comment under it. What a pointless waste of time. How about doing something fun. positive, or productive? Why does i already know that you guys vote for griffter, fellons and thugs like trump and love simping for bloodthirsty dictators like putler. No sane person would waste their time like you guys do. Was watching 7 hours of video rants about Dragon Age Veilguard not enough? Do you guys have to put in additional 20 hours whining about it in forums and under youtube videos? Anti-Woke konservatives are the most pointless and infantil snowflakes on the planet. Imagine if everyone would waste their time like you guys. We would still be in the stoneage, whining about how Honcabrah drew to small boobs and cHiNs on its cave paintings.
This is bad like Poison was the first trans character in gaming and people domt care she is amazing but here we are pandering people that have mind problems best game with good story GTA The Ballard of Gay Tony the story is so good that Tony is my favorite character there.
unironically the reason the world was about to end because her goofy ass led to the vicount of kirkwall being killed which led to knight commander taking over which led to the mage rebellions which led to the peace summit in dragon age inquisition between templars and mages which then led to the events of this game
"Some people... make it about them. So I interrupt and derail the conversation to do ten pushups and it takes us two minutes to get back on track. But that's less about me!" Also, how does that put it right? Maybe try to do something for the wronged party to make it right? Not some "look at me!" self-flagellation?
The thing is, you dont need to play along and apologize or do ANYTHING to please them over their own delusion! Now i had heard about how bad this game was already but seeing it for myself.... really disappointed in the company. I'll never play this game which sucks because i liked Dragon Age...
The best part is that there's no dialogue option to say "that's dumb as hell." Every option is basically "that's great" or "is Taash coping?" I can wholeheartedly say if you wrong someone, then make the apology all about you, you're simply a self-centered asshole.
If only taash could have done that and learned from her mistakes about wronging others, but instead the player can’t the rational one and call out her bullshit. Instead, you have three ways to agree with the nonsense. Freedom in games is truly dead.
Yeah. That is also the same Isabela who calls you a crybaby if you're disappointed that she tried to kill you for a ship in fade. She also lets thousands of people be sold in slavery for no reason but to show-off. That exact Isabela. I'm so pissed off that they literally made everyone Barbies and Kens... except in 2024 even Barbie has more personality
@@ZaWardo151 Nothing in a game affects anyone; by your logic we should just not focus on anything a game does.The reason people care is because people care about the gameplay experience, but if it's hijacked by ideological preaching, then it will ruin that experience, and people who care about having fun, SHOULD care.
But why they not added dialog option to disagree with this crap, if this is an rpg, there should be one. If I don’t like certain character a like to be a douchebag to them
on my bed laughing imagining Anders' face at the fact that the same people who couldn't take a political stance against mage opression are now doing push ups to apologize over a wrong pronoun.
"Bend your knees" - just shows how out of touch the developers are; they don't even know how to do a push up properly, let alone count to 10 (she only did 5 pushups).
These characters seem like a nightmare to be around. You have to apologise for saying the wrong words or eating a breadstick, but you have to apologise in EXACTLY the right way, if you do it too fast you don't mean it apparently and if you do it too much you're attention hogging. They just come off as so unlikeable
At this point i'm rooting for the Blight or Elven God or whoever has the ability to end this setting Also hilarious to me that this medieval society apparently cares about misgendering, but couldn't bring themselves to care about Mass lobotomization of Mages, hardcore Racism against city elves as well as regularly scheduled hate crimes as part of their system of government (I remember a part of the lore that every Orlesian Chevalier had to kill an Elf to be knighted), fanatical religious opression of anyone who didn't worship the maker, and rampant poverty and inequality. Truly an enlightened society!
The illusion of freedom, right? Every choice causes you to go down the same path, no way to choose a different path. Even Sonic games give you more of a choice than this game does. All paths rejoin at the end of every level, but at least you get to choose which path you want to take. Hell, even Mass Effect gave you more freedom than this game does. And even better: your choices in ME1 and 2 were actually a bit more important than I assume your choices are in this game (I haven't played it and I'm not going to. I'm a fan of many games, but I'm not gonna buy a game just because "Dragon Age", "Resident Evil", or "Call of Duty" is in the title.)
@@Gamer88334 eh that’s actually untrue. there are some huge decisions you make that actually do change the story, ending, and what the map looks like. there’s an event that happens pretty early on where you have to make a decision to help 1 of 2 towns and the one you don’t help completely changes for the rest of the game. and depending on your decision this event also locks you out a romance option.
If anybody's ever been in the Army, you'll know what I'm talking about. I'm not transphobic, what an adult does is no concern of mine, but to smoke yourself when a simple sorry would've done the job is crazy.
I'll be fucking real with you, if any of my non-binary friends actually raised a fuss about being misgendered, they wouldn't be my friends. I don't care about what anyone's identity is, but what I do care about is not surrounding myself with people whose very presence is draining.
Would you ever take someone serious again who apologizes like that? No, because you would recognize that you are dealing with a weirdo. This dialoge has been written by people who never left their basement.
What happened to the Dragon Age Inquisition writing? I’m a genderfluid person, and belive me, this is rediculous even for us hahaha sounds like what a corporation THINKS we should talk. Dragon Age games were a symbol for amazing queer and lgbt good representation since the first one, there is literally a transgender character on Inquisition and nobody gaves a fuck back in 2014, but this game just butchered the dialogue and interactions, its like watching youtube ads talk with each other, its disrespectful and offensive. Its a satire of how queer people are and makes me feel very very bad.
That's pretty much the problem with most modern games. They just throw in random characters for "diversity" and "representation" without going through the effort to make them feel like real people. They're just there and their entire personality is their gender, race, orientation, or whatever else. The only game I've seen do it right in recent years is Cyberpunk 2077.
I never gave a damn about Krem in Inquisition, but Traash makes this game unplayable to me. I don't want to hear lectures about "pronouns" in a Dragon Age game.
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 pretty much yes. So the idea of Isabella as the faction leader from Rivain makes sense, it's just the execution is...bad.
@@64chrom and of course, they had to uglify her and give her the appearance of a 50-year old, like every single female protagonist from western media in the last 10 years!
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 I don't think she looks that bad, outfit fits the region she's currently living in and while she's older, years has passed since Kirkwall uprising. But yes, there is such a trend, this example is just a rather mild case (in my opinion) she's also not the protagonist
Yeah don’t compare her with best girl Merrill please. Merrill was extremely socially awkward, but she also had enormous character depth. And by act 3 Merrill had adjusted quite a lot to life in Kirkwall, she was still lonely, but less socially awkward. Bellara is just an “adorkable”-trope.
For those who don't know who good ol' Isabela is, here is a quick trip down the memory lane for what type of woman this is: >the type of woman that accepted slaver contract for profit and only had last minute change of heart upon finding out that kids would be included >the type of woman that stole Qunari's sacred relic, getting them shipwrecked, then having a city that never asked for them deal with them for 3 years hoping that they don't explode and murder them all (they did) >when said Qunari exploded Hawke (you) had once chance to calm them down before they started storming the city which was to get that damn relic back and Isabela being amazing person that she is agrees to do it - except she doesn't because she tricks you and steals that relic once more while running away with it which to nobody's surprise results in Qunari starting to slaughter everyone left and right >(Optional) assuming you had friendly relationship with her she shall return to give the tome back however she shall only do this once everything above already happened and city's leader has been beheaded by Qunari and the damage was beyond done to the city >by the way the default state of 2 was that she never returned at all so... lol So, ignoring that dear Izzy by canon left city to burn and let us go with outcome in which she did come back: How many push-ups she did for all this? ZERO! She barely even apologized for it and went as far as to blame Hawke for getting her "sentimental" enough to return, lamenting how she lost the chance to get a new ship because new ship > people's lives as far as she was always concerned. This is who is giving you sermon about morality here. THIS!
I get that trans people hate being misgendered, and we still have a ways to go as a society, but this scene seems WAY out of place in a gothic medieval fantasy rpg. You can tell the writers were treating the script more like a group therapy session than anything else.
There are two things that make this scene... shit. Taash doesn't say shit. Taash has no agency in this scene at all - they don't ask for this, they don't want it, they don't get a say in what's happening. Despite the whole "Some people make it all about themselves" - Isabella basically goes on a massive monologue to prove what a huge ally she is and makes it all about herself. Taash doesn't get to say they want her to do this, Taash gets no input, they just have to watch it happen. Second - as a Trans person - this is literally the most fucking embarrassing thing you could do. If someone misgenders me, saying "Oh, Sorry" and moving on is all I want. It's all any of us want, because the longer someone goes on about it, the more uncomfortable literally everyone gets, and that can result in people then directing hostility towards US because suddenly we're the center of attention. If someone says Sorry and then tries to not do it again, that is the actual best. If someone says sorry, gets up, does ten pushups, then goes on a long fucking monologue about how misgendering is bad, that is the fucking nightmare scenario. The writer who wrote this scene is Nonbinary - but they came out while working on DA:V, and I'm sorry but it fucking shows.
Don't worry, this will be the end of the franchise, and the last gasps of Bioware as a studio. EA is going to give em the Old Yeller treatment after this flop
This is pretty good actually! I always find myself unable to kill off party members at key plot moments. But this way it’s like a slasher movie. It’s fine if they all die. I’m just curious to see how.
Actually if you had a brain you'd know mostly women wrote this dialogue, and any men that were involved were NOT the way you described 😂 if anything they have pink Mohawks and 0 muscle definition
The issue for me is, Isabela doesn't seem to be the type of people who care about this kind of things, it is out of character. Josephine maybe, Isabela no.
This is the exact same character who attempted to make a kink out of Fenris' trauma experienced at the hands of Tevinter slavers. What would be more in character for Isabella is if she asked something like what genitalia Taash has, or whether Taash's self imposed identity makes her any better in between the sheets.
No s hit. Good game art + game play decent + overly simplified rpg elements + total trans emersion = trans grooming game. This game is about grooming the kids. Sick.
Oh no, it is targeted toward children. They’re “normalizing” it. The worst part is the option for “top surgery” scars in character creation, celebrating self-mutilation.
@@thistles shout out my cousin who had to get a double mastectomy bc of cancer and thusly celebrates self-mutilation ! (also it would just be regular mutilation bc you dont perform the surgery on yourself)
@ yeah, that’s exactly the same thing. Someone who lost his balls to an IED doesn’t justify castration of healthy males. Cancer doesn’t justify elective surgery to remove healthy breasts.
"Lets bring Isabela back for a cameo!" "Great then she can make a reference to the plays choice Hawke and if they are alive or romanced or not!" "No instead I think she can be used as a vehicle for pathetic, narcissistic and delusional virtue signalling about 'not making it about yourself' when you upset someone who is 'making it all about themselves' with their delusions." "........will she even mention about Varric?"
Five options of dialogue. “Great job.” “Exercise and self improvement!” “Are you okay, Tasha?” “That’s open minded!” “Why not just say sorry?” All the dialogue is the same.
This feels like some writer's revenge power fantasy that they wrote instead of going to therapy and dealing with their emotions like an adult. The equivalent of writing thinly veiled caricatures of everyone who bullied you in high school getting put into saw traps
There’s nothing wrong with trans characters but even I as a binary trans woman feel like they’re only pandering towards a small minority within this already small community.. nonbinary people. You don’t see many binary trans people in games or their identities are left ambiguous. It’s annoying. I have nothing against nonbinary people but every nonbinary token character in games is always assigned female at birth, there’s no AMAB enby rep too lol
My question is why they should feel the need to pander to begin with. It's a video game set in a damn fantasy world. We don't need to shoehorn as many demographics into the game as possible just so we can call ourselves "inclusive". If it fits in well with the context of the story itself, then that's one thing - but this just feels so forced.
Most non-binary people are in fact assigned female at birth even in real life, the main issue is why trans/non-binary/gay people need to be represented in games which make no sense for them to be in, especially medieval fantasy settings. If it was a game like cyberpunk it would fully make sense. It's another story for simulation games such as sims 4 where it panders to most people and in my opinion it should, as it's a life simulation. It isn't the case here. I'm a lesbian but I wouldn't expect to see a lesbian married couple in a medieval setting nor should there be. Plus taash saying outright she's nonbinary is stupid, and akin to saying 'I'm neurodivergent', it doesn't make sense to include modern terms in a medieval fantasy setting because it ruins immersion. Not only that, her storyline is shallow, that scene with her mom we've seen a million times in other forms of media and doesn't tell the player anything new.
notice how it isn't taash who corrects her. that is part of their ideology. it's not up to the confused person to correct people. it's up to the allies.
This character is so dumb it so crazy for scary accurate it is. She wants people to understand but why does she get the last breadstick even if it her fav who cares why carter to her? Also she terrible disrespectful to the "corpse mage" he askes time and time again not to be called a corpse mage he clearly doesn't identify as it and they even make a joke about her calling him a corpsefucker. Just like the real like version entitled wants everything and doesn't care about what other feels
>10 situps show the other person you mean it >Never specify what "it" is Wew, absolutely brilliant. I would run out of this room screaming at the top of my lungs.
You ever notice how Taash is just sitting there like they're not asking Isabella to do that Like ik people think Taash is disrespectful and like yeah with the Neve Emmrich convos they are (they apologize in both conversations btw and yet no one brings that up) but like with correcting people on their pronouns they never yelled about it or anything Taash as a character isn't the problem the writing is
Another thing I don't see brought up is how the other companions taash starts off rocky with they later get along with Like depending on dialogue options later in game taash tells emmrich that he can have their skull when they die they do become friends
This is an actual...cutscene in a video game...Also why did Ballera do a Bharv when she didn't 'misgender' anyone? This is a power trip that they desperately want uncontested. I mean don't worry about me mis-gendering you, but I will still think your a lecturous tw"£t.
This is so cringe. It’s incredibly stupid people get so upset over accidentally misgendering and this kissing ass push-up scene of Isabela makes me regret romancing her as Hawke.
Is this a f**king joke? This is what modern video games has come to? We went from “finish the fight” midnight launches for Halo 3 with your best friend to this?
Claire Russell from CP2077, Krem from The Inquisition, those are good chars, their gender is part of their personality and not pushed everywhere. This is... really strange. 2:10 Well, "Isabella" is doing virtually thing she criticize.
This is me at work, trying not to offend co workers or my boss. We get along but we aren't real friends. This group are a bunch of coworkers, not friends.
Игры
This game was written by terminaly online Redditors and Twitter users.
It feels like a parody.
we got dragon age parody adapted before gta 6
Sad. But we will see more of them going on. The gens today grew up on those sites
It even have that cringe pauses between dialogues like a how a twitter user would do about schooling you on “misgendering”
My god, this is a mess.
@@kvu236 whats sad is that you put an effort to seek out videos of a game you despise and comment under it. What a pointless waste of time.
How about doing something fun. positive, or productive? Why does i already know that you guys vote for griffter, fellons and thugs like trump and love simping for bloodthirsty dictators like putler. No sane person would waste their time like you guys do. Was watching 7 hours of video rants about Dragon Age Veilguard not enough? Do you guys have to put in additional 20 hours whining about it in forums and under youtube videos?
Anti-Woke konservatives are the most pointless and infantil snowflakes on the planet. Imagine if everyone would waste their time like you guys. We would still be in the stoneage, whining about how Honcabrah drew to small boobs and cHiNs on its cave paintings.
"Feels like a parody" is the most accurate review so far
saying sorry too much is too dramatic but doing 10 pushups unprompted and having to explain the entire context isn't
She didn't even do 10. She did 5. By her own logic she must not actually care that much.
@@Aegis_7VIII mean obviously lol she didn't want to explain the whole shit
“They might make it about themselves” continues to go on a self-righteous over-explanation on how they are apologizing the correct way
This is bad like Poison was the first trans character in gaming and people domt care she is amazing but here we are pandering people that have mind problems best game with good story GTA The Ballard of Gay Tony the story is so good that Tony is my favorite character there.
Cringe
Isabella feels more regret misgendering someone then starting a freaking religious war in kirkwall just because she wanted to sell a qunari book 😅
Leftists feel more regret misgendering someone than supporting war monger establishment Democrat politicians, so it tracks.
What a queen
unironically the reason the world was about to end because her goofy ass led to the vicount of kirkwall being killed which led to knight commander taking over which led to the mage rebellions which led to the peace summit in dragon age inquisition between templars and mages which then led to the events of this game
And she run away. She's leave, abadon everyone (and she's family) behind becose
"We do 10 push ups."
*Stop after 5.*
Means her apology was half ass. Well played 🤣
The 5 push up identify as 10
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I was looking for this lol I wasn't sure I had counted correctly
5 push ups per hand, 10 total 😂
"What does this have to do with dragons?"
"Dragons?"
Shows you’ve never even played the series if you don’t understand the races and backstories behind each culture the games is not ALL dragons idiot
“Dragon age? I thought we were making ‘drag queen gayge’”
I mean, did the other games even have dragons as a critical part of the story?
Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. Dragon Age was never about dragons
Tbf the reason why it’s called Dragon Age isn’t because of Dragons
"Some people... make it about them. So I interrupt and derail the conversation to do ten pushups and it takes us two minutes to get back on track. But that's less about me!"
Also, how does that put it right? Maybe try to do something for the wronged party to make it right? Not some "look at me!" self-flagellation?
The whole idea is they don't believe in society morales.
It's a 10 year old way of thinking that you have to really feel sorry.
It doesn't put anything right, but the person who just did ten push-ups does feel better about him/her/themself for a very successful virtue signal!
The thing is, you dont need to play along and apologize or do ANYTHING to please them over their own delusion! Now i had heard about how bad this game was already but seeing it for myself.... really disappointed in the company. I'll never play this game which sucks because i liked Dragon Age...
Yet it really is about "them" in this case 😅
The best part is that there's no dialogue option to say "that's dumb as hell."
Every option is basically "that's great" or "is Taash coping?"
I can wholeheartedly say if you wrong someone, then make the apology all about you, you're simply a self-centered asshole.
*김일성동지* 좋아하십니까?
If only taash could have done that and learned from her mistakes about wronging others, but instead the player can’t the rational one and call out her bullshit. Instead, you have three ways to agree with the nonsense. Freedom in games is truly dead.
Is this the same Isabella that stole The tome of Koslun, and was willing to let the Arishok burn down an entire city state in search of it ?
Wait I didn’t even recognize her with the budget cut… Jesus Christ the state of triple A nowadays
Yeah. That is also the same Isabela who calls you a crybaby if you're disappointed that she tried to kill you for a ship in fade. She also lets thousands of people be sold in slavery for no reason but to show-off. That exact Isabela.
I'm so pissed off that they literally made everyone Barbies and Kens... except in 2024 even Barbie has more personality
Nope, that Isabella is far away, in some gaming world, which is not full of these bs. This is parody-Isabella.
“Uh uh people can grow up and change you guyyyys” 😂😂😂
HTank you you read my thoughts
"How did you get so strong??"
"Each time I misgender someone, I do one pushup."
Modern cringe in a nutshell
@@ZaWardo151 i don't really care like my life depends on it, I just acknowledge how objectively goofy it is
She never stop and it just getting worse by Making a scene
@ZaWardo151 whats cringe about Terminator?
@@ZaWardo151 Nothing in a game affects anyone; by your logic we should just not focus on anything a game does.The reason people care is because people care about the gameplay experience, but if it's hijacked by ideological preaching, then it will ruin that experience, and people who care about having fun, SHOULD care.
But why they not added dialog option to disagree with this crap, if this is an rpg, there should be one. If I don’t like certain character a like to be a douchebag to them
on my bed laughing imagining Anders' face at the fact that the same people who couldn't take a political stance against mage opression are now doing push ups to apologize over a wrong pronoun.
And she asked Fenris how he was "used" by his former master shamelessly as well. lol. I can’t believe this fucking game.
"Bend your knees" - just shows how out of touch the developers are; they don't even know how to do a push up properly, let alone count to 10 (she only did 5 pushups).
Taashs advice to bend your knees when doing push ups? How is it possible that this game can get EVERYTHING wrong
Thanks for posting this. I absolutely hate it.
kek
there's no way man
what have gaming become 😢
@@ZaWardo151 "It’s just changing with the times just as culture changes" 99.99% of people laugh at this shit please talk to real people
@@ZaWardo151 I don't even think these changes should effect gaming
since when any of us liked games getting political this is absolutely ridiculous
We should have gatekeep harder then ruin everything they touch man
@@ZaWardo151 ya that's how ridiculous the laws are in America lol
It is sad. But it seems we have hit the wall of innovation. These gender studies non sense is their last resort to keep innovating the franchise
These characters seem like a nightmare to be around. You have to apologise for saying the wrong words or eating a breadstick, but you have to apologise in EXACTLY the right way, if you do it too fast you don't mean it apparently and if you do it too much you're attention hogging. They just come off as so unlikeable
At this point i'm rooting for the Blight or Elven God or whoever has the ability to end this setting
Also hilarious to me that this medieval society apparently cares about misgendering, but couldn't bring themselves to care about Mass lobotomization of Mages, hardcore Racism against city elves as well as regularly scheduled hate crimes as part of their system of government (I remember a part of the lore that every Orlesian Chevalier had to kill an Elf to be knighted), fanatical religious opression of anyone who didn't worship the maker, and rampant poverty and inequality. Truly an enlightened society!
Does this games dialogue even have a fucking soul? jesus christ.
The illusion of freedom, right? Every choice causes you to go down the same path, no way to choose a different path. Even Sonic games give you more of a choice than this game does. All paths rejoin at the end of every level, but at least you get to choose which path you want to take. Hell, even Mass Effect gave you more freedom than this game does. And even better: your choices in ME1 and 2 were actually a bit more important than I assume your choices are in this game (I haven't played it and I'm not going to. I'm a fan of many games, but I'm not gonna buy a game just because "Dragon Age", "Resident Evil", or "Call of Duty" is in the title.)
@@Gamer88334 eh that’s actually untrue. there are some huge decisions you make that actually do change the story, ending, and what the map looks like. there’s an event that happens pretty early on where you have to make a decision to help 1 of 2 towns and the one you don’t help completely changes for the rest of the game. and depending on your decision this event also locks you out a romance option.
@@Gamer88334spoken like a guy who didn’t play the game
get down and do a Bharv
Nah, dialogues that don't have soul are common. This one? I'm not entirely sure it wasn't written by a monkey with a typewriter.
I used to like Isabela. Now she's a totally different character. Real Isabela wont do this crraap to apologize.
This is not Isabela. This is a demon wearing her corpse.
THATS isabela? christ.
@@lingricen8077 apparently so
This is not isabella we know, I rather refer to her as isabel-from-someones-marysue-fanfic-a
If anybody's ever been in the Army, you'll know what I'm talking about.
I'm not transphobic, what an adult does is no concern of mine, but to smoke yourself when a simple sorry would've done the job is crazy.
You’re not transphobic? Get yourself together man
You should be. It’s wicked and isn’t real,
@@ZaWardo151you speak like a black person
@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman zip it Westboro
@@sandwichmaker9000 do you want them dead?
Where's the "That was cringe." response?
What a waste to Bring back a Legendary Character like ISABELLA😢. The real Isabella is not politically correct
I'll be fucking real with you, if any of my non-binary friends actually raised a fuss about being misgendered, they wouldn't be my friends.
I don't care about what anyone's identity is, but what I do care about is not surrounding myself with people whose very presence is draining.
No, you have to drop to the ground and give them 10
Would you ever take someone serious again who apologizes like that? No, because you would recognize that you are dealing with a weirdo. This dialoge has been written by people who never left their basement.
I pulled a Barf
Mysterio: You called my invention Barf?
So goddamn cringe.
Painfully. Horrifically. Excruciatingly. The collective embodiment of every breed of cringe possible.
Why would misgendering someone require "fixing" in the first place? There's nothing to fix. They're just words.
What happened to the Dragon Age Inquisition writing? I’m a genderfluid person, and belive me, this is rediculous even for us hahaha sounds like what a corporation THINKS we should talk. Dragon Age games were a symbol for amazing queer and lgbt good representation since the first one, there is literally a transgender character on Inquisition and nobody gaves a fuck back in 2014, but this game just butchered the dialogue and interactions, its like watching youtube ads talk with each other, its disrespectful and offensive. Its a satire of how queer people are and makes me feel very very bad.
No such thing as gender fluid. You just want attention
Is "gender fluid" a lubricant or something coming out of the body when being aroused?
Serious question.
That's pretty much the problem with most modern games. They just throw in random characters for "diversity" and "representation" without going through the effort to make them feel like real people. They're just there and their entire personality is their gender, race, orientation, or whatever else. The only game I've seen do it right in recent years is Cyberpunk 2077.
Welcome to pinkwashing I think
I never gave a damn about Krem in Inquisition, but Traash makes this game unplayable to me.
I don't want to hear lectures about "pronouns" in a Dragon Age game.
They brought back Isabella, a badass, feisty, no-nonsense pirate lady for THIS. Only for THIS.
Technically Isabella function is as a funny faction leader. But their sense of humor is..what you saw.
@@64chrom this people can't emote, human or even be funny, don't they?
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 pretty much yes. So the idea of Isabella as the faction leader from Rivain makes sense, it's just the execution is...bad.
@@64chrom and of course, they had to uglify her and give her the appearance of a 50-year old, like every single female protagonist from western media in the last 10 years!
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 I don't think she looks that bad, outfit fits the region she's currently living in and while she's older, years has passed since Kirkwall uprising. But yes, there is such a trend, this example is just a rather mild case (in my opinion) she's also not the protagonist
This isn’t even Isabella talking, it’s like the writer’s venting a personal issue through the character wtf
So Bellara is just Merril 2.0?? They cant write us varied and nuanced non-adorkable female companions but they CAN lecture us about diversity? Ffs
Nah she’s not. She’s just annoying. Merril is way better imo.
Yeah don’t compare her with best girl Merrill please. Merrill was extremely socially awkward, but she also had enormous character depth. And by act 3 Merrill had adjusted quite a lot to life in Kirkwall, she was still lonely, but less socially awkward. Bellara is just an “adorkable”-trope.
Isabela did 10 pushups when she stole from the Qunari too btw. That fixed everything........................💀
Isabela did 10 pushups when she started that bar brawl mentioned in her Act 3 codex.
lol
For those who don't know who good ol' Isabela is, here is a quick trip down the memory lane for what type of woman this is:
>the type of woman that accepted slaver contract for profit and only had last minute change of heart upon finding out that kids would be included
>the type of woman that stole Qunari's sacred relic, getting them shipwrecked, then having a city that never asked for them deal with them for 3 years hoping that they don't explode and murder them all (they did)
>when said Qunari exploded Hawke (you) had once chance to calm them down before they started storming the city which was to get that damn relic back and Isabela being amazing person that she is agrees to do it - except she doesn't because she tricks you and steals that relic once more while running away with it which to nobody's surprise results in Qunari starting to slaughter everyone left and right
>(Optional) assuming you had friendly relationship with her she shall return to give the tome back however she shall only do this once everything above already happened and city's leader has been beheaded by Qunari and the damage was beyond done to the city
>by the way the default state of 2 was that she never returned at all so... lol
So, ignoring that dear Izzy by canon left city to burn and let us go with outcome in which she did come back: How many push-ups she did for all this? ZERO! She barely even apologized for it and went as far as to blame Hawke for getting her "sentimental" enough to return, lamenting how she lost the chance to get a new ship because new ship > people's lives as far as she was always concerned. This is who is giving you sermon about morality here. THIS!
I get that trans people hate being misgendered, and we still have a ways to go as a society, but this scene seems WAY out of place in a gothic medieval fantasy rpg. You can tell the writers were treating the script more like a group therapy session than anything else.
Trans people literally don't exist. Transgender is not a real thing you can be. It's male or female, there's no option to change it.
Bro not even queer people like this scene
It's just the minority obnoxious ones
Trans people need to realise no one gives a shit about their delusions
They misgender themselves😂
THATS your take away? You misgendered the scene
There are two things that make this scene... shit.
Taash doesn't say shit. Taash has no agency in this scene at all - they don't ask for this, they don't want it, they don't get a say in what's happening. Despite the whole "Some people make it all about themselves" - Isabella basically goes on a massive monologue to prove what a huge ally she is and makes it all about herself. Taash doesn't get to say they want her to do this, Taash gets no input, they just have to watch it happen.
Second - as a Trans person - this is literally the most fucking embarrassing thing you could do. If someone misgenders me, saying "Oh, Sorry" and moving on is all I want. It's all any of us want, because the longer someone goes on about it, the more uncomfortable literally everyone gets, and that can result in people then directing hostility towards US because suddenly we're the center of attention. If someone says Sorry and then tries to not do it again, that is the actual best. If someone says sorry, gets up, does ten pushups, then goes on a long fucking monologue about how misgendering is bad, that is the fucking nightmare scenario.
The writer who wrote this scene is Nonbinary - but they came out while working on DA:V, and I'm sorry but it fucking shows.
This ain’t the Isabela I know. The REAL Isabela would derail the subject by making a sex joke and then moving on to the next topic.
As a queer person I cringed.
As a non binary person, I fucking cringed lmao
@@NerdHerdForLife😂JFC
Oh look, a non-binary and a queer person acting like being those makes their opinion more valid.
Nothing new.
Wait, 'every time I misgender someone I do 10 push-ups' sounds actually like an amazing workout plan. Gonna get really buffed soon
I feel like the dialogue is a little robotic
That's the least of their worries, lol
"What do we do when we mess up?" Apparently we talk the way a creep talks to a kindergartner.
I like it how none of your choices in this dialogue affect anything. You might get one extra phrase if you're lucky.
Allow me to speak for everyone for a moment... "Ew."
You don't speak for me.
@@girlwithtehface5880 Yeah, with that profile pic, it doesn't surprise me you can't take a joke.
@girlwithtehface5880 join the 44% freak
[ _absolutely everyone_ liked that]
@@girlwithtehface5880 Life was better without you angry little men pretending to be ... whatever
If this is what Dragon Age is going to be like going forward, consider me uninterested.
Don't worry, this will be the end of the franchise, and the last gasps of Bioware as a studio. EA is going to give em the Old Yeller treatment after this flop
Oh trust me this is their last game
They are shutting down their studio after this one
I doubt there will be another DA game after this one. Dragon Age is dead.
These were the most awful 6 minutes of my life. If this is the future of gaming, I'm selling my pc.
Am I watching The View?
Underrated comment right here !!
This is pretty good actually! I always find myself unable to kill off party members at key plot moments. But this way it’s like a slasher movie. It’s fine if they all die. I’m just curious to see how.
Sara says hi (well no she’d say something cringey as hell)
lol. Isabela only does 5 push-ups and then later after Taash dies, refers to Taash as she.
You can tell a group of 30-40 year old millennials with thick glasses, beards and balding patterns developed this.
They're the kinds of people to say "Yas queen, slay" when their girlfriend's boytoy runs someone over
No, liberals developed this.. don't insult my age bracket, I want no association with this degeneracy.
Actually if you had a brain you'd know mostly women wrote this dialogue, and any men that were involved were NOT the way you described 😂 if anything they have pink Mohawks and 0 muscle definition
+ fat white women
All of them in Canada
Excuse you, there were definitely some females with blue hair and pronouns in there too
The issue for me is, Isabela doesn't seem to be the type of people who care about this kind of things, it is out of character. Josephine maybe, Isabela no.
This is the exact same character who attempted to make a kink out of Fenris' trauma experienced at the hands of Tevinter slavers. What would be more in character for Isabella is if she asked something like what genitalia Taash has, or whether Taash's self imposed identity makes her any better in between the sheets.
They did isabela's appearance better over time, her looks improving
Tell me this isn't targeted towards children without telling me.
No s hit. Good game art + game play decent + overly simplified rpg elements + total trans emersion = trans grooming game. This game is about grooming the kids. Sick.
Oh no, it is targeted toward children. They’re “normalizing” it. The worst part is the option for “top surgery” scars in character creation, celebrating self-mutilation.
@@thistles shout out my cousin who had to get a double mastectomy bc of cancer and thusly celebrates self-mutilation !
(also it would just be regular mutilation bc you dont perform the surgery on yourself)
@ yeah, that’s exactly the same thing. Someone who lost his balls to an IED doesn’t justify castration of healthy males. Cancer doesn’t justify elective surgery to remove healthy breasts.
I'm someone who thinks most people make to big of a deal about DEI in games but this is insane and it isn't the only scene.
Where is the "shut the fuck up you lunatic ' dialogue option?
I'm half-expecting Isabela to look at the audience, breaking the fourth wall, and say "Everybody got that?" (like Dark Helmet in 'Spaceballs').
"Lets bring Isabela back for a cameo!"
"Great then she can make a reference to the plays choice Hawke and if they are alive or romanced or not!"
"No instead I think she can be used as a vehicle for pathetic, narcissistic and delusional virtue signalling about 'not making it about yourself' when you upset someone who is 'making it all about themselves' with their delusions."
"........will she even mention about Varric?"
I'm non-binary and I think this dialogue is patronising and gross
Five options of dialogue.
“Great job.”
“Exercise and self improvement!”
“Are you okay, Tasha?”
“That’s open minded!”
“Why not just say sorry?”
All the dialogue is the same.
im so sorry cod guy (thats the only community i know you from) for you having to endure this
thanks
This feels like some writer's revenge power fantasy that they wrote instead of going to therapy and dealing with their emotions like an adult. The equivalent of writing thinly veiled caricatures of everyone who bullied you in high school getting put into saw traps
Why is everybody talking like a character from a 00's American sitcom?
There’s nothing wrong with trans characters but even I as a binary trans woman feel like they’re only pandering towards a small minority within this already small community.. nonbinary people.
You don’t see many binary trans people in games or their identities are left ambiguous. It’s annoying. I have nothing against nonbinary people but every nonbinary token character in games is always assigned female at birth, there’s no AMAB enby rep too lol
I just find it annoying that they act like being trans makes them better than everyone else
They should just treat the trans character as normal and move on. It's not a personality trait.
My question is why they should feel the need to pander to begin with. It's a video game set in a damn fantasy world. We don't need to shoehorn as many demographics into the game as possible just so we can call ourselves "inclusive". If it fits in well with the context of the story itself, then that's one thing - but this just feels so forced.
Most non-binary people are in fact assigned female at birth even in real life, the main issue is why trans/non-binary/gay people need to be represented in games which make no sense for them to be in, especially medieval fantasy settings. If it was a game like cyberpunk it would fully make sense. It's another story for simulation games such as sims 4 where it panders to most people and in my opinion it should, as it's a life simulation. It isn't the case here. I'm a lesbian but I wouldn't expect to see a lesbian married couple in a medieval setting nor should there be. Plus taash saying outright she's nonbinary is stupid, and akin to saying 'I'm neurodivergent', it doesn't make sense to include modern terms in a medieval fantasy setting because it ruins immersion. Not only that, her storyline is shallow, that scene with her mom we've seen a million times in other forms of media and doesn't tell the player anything new.
We call those people confused, schizophrenic even but hey to each their own
notice how it isn't taash who corrects her.
that is part of their ideology.
it's not up to the confused person to correct people. it's up to the allies.
Good catch
Isabela even breaking the 4th wall to lecture us directly to our face.
Damn the dialogue feels like gender politics described by a preschool teacher
What the actual fuck is this dialogue
This character is so dumb it so crazy for scary accurate it is. She wants people to understand but why does she get the last breadstick even if it her fav who cares why carter to her? Also she terrible disrespectful to the "corpse mage" he askes time and time again not to be called a corpse mage he clearly doesn't identify as it and they even make a joke about her calling him a corpsefucker. Just like the real like version entitled wants everything and doesn't care about what other feels
This conversation looks very very modern, that it leaves the very essence of medieval rpg fantasy
>10 situps show the other person you mean it
>Never specify what "it" is
Wew, absolutely brilliant. I would run out of this room screaming at the top of my lungs.
Some fanfics have better dialogue than this.
My Immortal has better dialogue than this
So... even Taash's mother gets confused when she tells Rook to "Take care of her"?
They had to destroy Dragon age...
Just say “sorry”, People make mistakes. Also, she looks like a woman to me.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
later in the game, isabella refers to taash as a she.
The writers are lazy or stupid
I don’t care how you identify this was terrible writing, people don’t talk like that.
Not if it was the last game ever made
I dunno, I feel that they very realistically captured the mentality of ‘those’ kind of people.
You ever notice how Taash is just sitting there like they're not asking Isabella to do that
Like ik people think Taash is disrespectful and like yeah with the Neve Emmrich convos they are (they apologize in both conversations btw and yet no one brings that up) but like with correcting people on their pronouns they never yelled about it or anything
Taash as a character isn't the problem the writing is
Another thing I don't see brought up is how the other companions taash starts off rocky with they later get along with Like depending on dialogue options later in game taash tells emmrich that he can have their skull when they die they do become friends
Diversity and representation is all well and good, but this was like watching an episode of Sesame Street.
Taash gotta be the worst LGBT+ written character ever.
man, this game would be so fucking funny if it was a parody of the series, but no, the writers were serious about it.
You bumped into me and spilled my coffee.
I'm sorry.
No you're not, not unless you pull a Barv.
Why they're forcing the dialog to just accept it 😂. Why is there no 'that's stupid' option 🤣
Inquisition handeled this soooooooooo much better 😂
I hate them all.
Worst designs for the qunari in dragon age history
I waited 10 years for this game… i don’t want to live on this planet anymore
No one can convince me that this is not satire
This is an actual...cutscene in a video game...Also why did Ballera do a Bharv when she didn't 'misgender' anyone? This is a power trip that they desperately want uncontested. I mean don't worry about me mis-gendering you, but I will still think your a lecturous tw"£t.
You are allowed to write swears on the internet, it is okay
Thanks for uploading my daily dose of suffering
Is it possible to kill my companions?
yes, just don't do any of their companion quests and they all die in the end
@ perfect I see three sacrifices in this video
This is so cringe. It’s incredibly stupid people get so upset over accidentally misgendering and this kissing ass push-up scene of Isabela makes me regret romancing her as Hawke.
Is this a f**king joke?
This is what modern video games has come to? We went from “finish the fight” midnight launches for Halo 3 with your best friend to this?
"So kids, what lesson did we learn today?" ahh dialogue
It is comforting to see that people have an issue with the terrible writing and not lgbtq+ stuff. But yeah the writing for these scenes is trash.
Why did they drag poor Morrigan AND Isabella into this mess?
Oh my God this is so gay my estrogen is rising
Claire Russell from CP2077, Krem from The Inquisition, those are good chars, their gender is part of their personality and not pushed everywhere. This is... really strange.
2:10 Well, "Isabella" is doing virtually thing she criticize.
My mom stepped on my toe about a month ago, so she bought me a brand-new purple Lamborghini Aventador LP 780-4 Ultimae.
I accepted her apology. 😉
This is me at work, trying not to offend co workers or my boss. We get along but we aren't real friends. This group are a bunch of coworkers, not friends.