As a casual Technic fan I've quickly grown to love your reviews. They are always well researched, with great care taken to analyze the physical features and capabilities of new elements as well as the set as a whole. Your praise and criticism are both voiced extremely well-no kneejerk reactions, just straightforward analysis of the pros and cons as well as differentiating objective strengths and weaknesses from your own personal preferences. The hamster cameos at the end are just an added bonus!
The statement at 4:39 is incorrect. It's widely known that USB plugs exist in 4-dimensional subspace and it's not uncommon for three (or more) attempts to be required to plug it in.
It seems that in the Technic world, there's the "cool-factor" people, the "good-looking" people, and the "all creative functions" people. This is a "cool factor" people's set. Thanks for this 30+ minute review Sariel! I can't imagine the time you invested in it.
@@bbeda I also think that the firmware wasn't the newest. Both the XL and L motor worked fine for me with the Powered UP Smarthub and the Remote Control.
Nice Review! The pieces are great and I like the mechanics, but the ground clearance is a joke for a model like this! "Oh no, the enemy is coming with the new LEGO 42099!" "Don't worry, I have three 1x6 bricks left!"
@@searme it really shows the battery level although is not very precise. If your batteries are drained the hub will flash orange and you'll get a low battery warning while connecting, the app won't let you go further. I also had ~50% battery level shown on that screen so there's some feedback.
I’m not sure if the designer made the front ground clearance low than the back on purpose, I think the more clearance it has the more the new wheel hub rubs against the lower control arm(around the ball joint area). But that’s not a big deal. I’m pretty satisfied with its preformance. The new motors work surprisingly faster and quieter than I expected.
Finally, I've been waiting for this video all week! EDIT: LEGO screwed up AGAIN? Even with all the new parts? We waited 7 YEARS for a new crawler, and this is what we get?
Am I the only one, who noticed the gas symbol in the middle, and the fact that it has changed during the video? Is it possible, that it shows the battery level?
Excellent review. I really appreciate the x-ray shots as well as the thorough testing. The range on this thing is amazing. It is like MRC Tamiya and Lego had a baby. I LOVE it! This is definitely on my list as one of my next Lego sets to get. Thanks again.
Great review as usual Sariel! There are definitely some very useful and interesting new pieces in this set, I am looking forward to trying them out myself at some point!
Thanks for the review! Cool set, but I feel that power cut-off feature would quickly get annoying. Unless I want to keep it on fairly level terrain, which in turn kind of defeats the purpose of being off-road...
Nd Co I agree! If this came with an included remote then it would be much more valuable to me. What’s going to happen 20 years from now when nobody has a device which can control Control+ sets. RC sets and even PF sets, will still be controllable even at 20-30 years old. I think it’s nice that LEGO is trying to modernize Technic sets by being able to use a smartphone but a remote should be included as well just like the Powered Up City trains from last year and even if it doesn’t have all the things the app does like the challenges and tilt, I would just be happy with controlling the set.
@@vladimirchervenkov6949 . "What’s going to happen 20 years from now when nobody has a device which can control Control+ sets." - probably the same thing that now happens if you want to play Amiga games: emulations.
from an offroader's perspective, I definitely agree that it needs more torque, and possibly better traction. (Lego can we have some squishy balloon tires for better surface contact?) but I feel your concern about the axle clearance is unjustified. when offroading, it's the driver's job to evade obstacles that can strike the axle (or worse, the diff) by driving around them, or putting the tire directly on them as you did on the three brick stack. if a stack of three bricks stops that thing, the error rests between the steering wheel and seat, not in the design of the axles.
i watched this after assembling my set, it wasn't until you pointed out the motors being geared up that i figured out why it had such little power...so far i've swapped one set of gears per motor and it's made a huge difference, the hard part is going to be switching the second set deeper inside without having to rebuild the whole thing...
It looks almost exactly like an American style monster truck with a Humvee body. Almost, because at the front the turntable projects down and to the front in a way that greatly reduces ground clearance compared to a real monster truck. Personally, I make a distinction between monster trucks and off-roaders, they do fairly different things even if they both have larger tires and lifted suspensions compared to production vehicles. "4x4 HUMMER monster truck" would be a more accurate name for it I think.
In terms of actual offroading: older is better. In nearly everything else: This one. The hub is interesting, but I don't have any designs that could use such a thing, so for now I won't bother.
The new Control+ system seems interesting and all the controls and measurements it provides should help creating cool models in the future. But it's yet another new, apparently incompatible system, causing too much fragmentation. It would be nice to have some PFC+ adapter cables, since I assume a lot of people have a bunch of PF pieces that they would want to re-use with a C+ hub. And also the big issue is that the durability of this system is limited by how long the app is going to be maintained. If one day they decide they can't support it anymore, you'll be left with a useless system. This would be less a concern, for this Control+ system, as well as for SBrick and Buwizz, to have the (bluetooth) control protocol published, so that the community can develop their own controller apps and ensure its viability. (I think SBrick has published their protocol, though.). I think I'm more excited by the new pin connector piece, at 11:37 :-)
the skulls do bother me a little bit, like sariel says, it is after all a toy, not a halloween prop. and if lego puts skulls on their vehicles, why don't they make (designed by and official) lego tanks, both technic and non-technic (like the sets cobi makes). i mean, if they offer sariel a contract as tank designer/builder. i would try my best to buy those sets then
The problem with this set is that app is not forever, it will not work in 2-3-5 years if not updated. Then remote control of this set (and forecoming controlled by this app) will be useless. What about old sets? On the contrary, you can still play with old Lego sets like 9398. Anyway, nice review Sariel.
Great review as always. New drivetrain pieces and "biscuit" connector are very nice but there are still a lot of questions regarding the Control+ system. When the app will become customizable and how much customisation will we have? Specifically you've mentioned that the hub cuts off power when the motors are stalled. I understand that it's a toy for children, but as an AFOL I don't want any handholding. What is the torque of new motors in comparison to PF ones? So recently I've bought a used 42030 to stack up more PF elements. And I really hope that someone would eventually make a C+ to PF adapter.
Great review as always loved the technical review superb video of it working but I won’t be buying it too similar to other sets come on Lego come up with something a bit different to trucks etc look forward to your review of the new liebhrr excavator now there’s a kit, regards David from the uk looking forward to your surprises soon
I love your reviews! I'm interested in this model because of the powerUp system and unique parts for me- suspension, steering, tyres and the biscuit connectors
Hmm just a thought: those accelerometers on Control+ with additional software on your smart device might open possibility to build LEGO flying drone, so maybe LEGO will go airborne finally?
The price dropped to 140€ across most stores here for a while now. Which is a pretty amazing price imo. Not really that much into building but 140 for this seems to be a good price just for the parts alone.
Why the CONTROL+ does not allow to create your own design controls? Always thought that LEGO was intended for learning creativity, not just building the model from the instruction and leaving it like that for eternity... At least they could publish instructions for the API for people who would like to do it.
Excellent review as always. I really wanted to like this off-roader but wish it would have more torque. I have the original and like it bit thought this would have been an improvement. Thanks for the excellent side by side comparison.
Pro-line Racing makes 1.9" rim size R/C rock crawler tires that fit on the rims. I bought some knock offs on Amazon. 4.7" tall, look wicked cool on the 42099! Have not run it with new tires as I'm about to tear down and build MOC's I saw on Rebrickable before I play. I posted photos on Rebrickable forum, search for Non Lego Tires.
thanks for review, since I am almost slept with 42099 last weeks, It was a pleasure to see something different in your and @racingbrick's review. I also visited x-Ray at dentist clinic, but they have weak and small x-ray module for human teeth, so I can't check motors as you. I also did measure of torque (using 6x AA Rechargeable 1,2V elements) - they have similar torque, close as RPM's. So what's the difference (except differnt motors inside and reductors)? Any advantages? Powered UP "XL" NEW!!! RPM 296 TORQUE H*cm 20,6 Powered UP "L" NEW!!! RPM 272 TORQUE H*cm 21,8May be L is quicker to accelerate and XL is slower and more intertional?
tbh... 4/5 in VALUE?? If anything that's the category where it stinks the most... And the compatibility issue is just a no-go. I'll stick with BuWizz and the like and enjoy the "old" generation a bit more.
Great review as always :) not fussed about the lack of a B-model, as those are rarely ever as good as the A-model Question about the new orange colour - isn’t that just the colour Bionicle fans call keetorange?
@@PhoenixClank Oh it would help with the ground clearance, but lets have a look at the existing portal hubs. They force you to have the turning point of the wheel quite far away from the center of the wheel. By doing so the wheels move forwards and backwards quite a lot. It may not be the biggest of issues for a model like this one but for most mocs to come it would be really annoying.
@@racernatorde5318 I see. But I suspect the most likely use of portal hubs would be in MOCs that require a lot of ground clearance, and generally those don't have restricting wheel housings. Now that I think about it though, it wouldn't make much sense to have portal planetary hubs because the gear reduction can already be built into the portal-ness itself. So this model would simply have been better of with portal hubs instead of planetary ones. Of course I'm still really glad that we got planetary hubs in the first place.
I wonder if its possible to get semi realistic drive shaft speed by connecting the inputs of hubs together and powering one output while the other output drives the differential shaft
The thing I hate most about this set is that there aren't any compatibility with the older generations, like the NXT wires with the RCX stackables, or the PF wires with the old 9V system. If the new hub does not support moc programming, I'm ditching new LEGO sets
I saw some different vids from PF vs PU motors and PU shows speedier and how a bit more torque. Weird that the inner parts looks the same. Also not being able to connect visa versa is really a steel i think
Sariel, zawsze nurtowało mnie dlaczego Lego daje wiele kolorów klocków, z których buduje się wnętrze modeli (czasami również zewnętrznych)? Co przeszkadza w ujednoliceniu lub sprzedaży zestawów w odcieniach danego koloru?
Ehh I’m not liking the new smart hub, the only huge upside is that it does better in sunlight. But I prefer the usual PF system. That new wheel hub will definitely be used by other builders in the future! Such a handy piece, you planning to use it for any of your creations sariel?
What happens if you mod it and use regular wheel hubs? What about increasing the ride height, potentially locking the diffs and changing the gear ratio like racing brick did?
THey could just made the front studier by making that front steering column in an angle, than a second part could be connected to the suspension. Making it as sturdy as he rear counterpart
Dang do you get all these models or do you need to return them? I guess returning isnt that bad, you get a nice time with them and its super cool to test all models :)
Have you tried using ni-zn rechargeable batteries in your MOCs? They have a voltage of 1.6 volts and a max voltage of 1.9, so work amazingly with Sbrick
I prefer to use an arrangement of 8 AA rechargeables. It is really cheap, gets good run time and there is no shortage of power. The voltage is the same as using nizn batteries
Ben Maybery yes but with nizn batteries you have to buy a charger, at least 12 batteries for any sort of run time and remove the current limiter in the PF battery pack
Hey. I just finished mine but I am wondering if it is normal that the blue light (on the box where the batteries are placed) remains always on. Even if we do not use it, this light stays on. I am afraid batteries won't stay long like this. Any idea? TX a lot
I know I could try this myself but, I was wondering if the round part of the planetary hubs fit inside of the hole in the 60T turntable? that way we can have more torque on something like a winch or a crane arm. I suppose you could also hook these hubs in in parralel (i.e as a comopound planetary gear set) and get something like 10:1 instead of 5:1.
I don't know exactly what techniques LEGO considers illegal, but they seem pretty restrictive so I guess I've probably used a bunch of them in my MOCs.
@@johnc6466 usually any technique that puts stress on parts, or isnt a solid connection. Any technique that makes pieces very hard to separate, flex, or surfaces that contact too firmly
9398 definitely looks much, much better but those XL motors are nice. I wonder how 9398 would do with XL motors? I see in the impressions that 42099 is outperformed by 9398. Certainly not in the speed department. Did I miss a part where there was more comparison? Thanks Sariel for another great review.
The price is just absurd. Really! $250 for 900 pieces, (Nevermind, it seems about the right price) I would expect this thing to topple over big obstacles, but i guess not. Great review anyway
You do understand that some of these 900 pieces are brand new, complex electronic parts, right? A motor or a smart hub cost much more to make than a brick.
It sure was a deal, but still some people were whining "no, it only has 370 pieces" , completely ignoring the fact that these pieces included about $80 worth of PF elements in a $100 set,
@@coasterfanatic3441 that i've realised, but anyone would expect it to have more torque so that it can actually drive over bumpy terrain. Because the two crawler sets made before it can
As a casual Technic fan I've quickly grown to love your reviews. They are always well researched, with great care taken to analyze the physical features and capabilities of new elements as well as the set as a whole. Your praise and criticism are both voiced extremely well-no kneejerk reactions, just straightforward analysis of the pros and cons as well as differentiating objective strengths and weaknesses from your own personal preferences. The hamster cameos at the end are just an added bonus!
Your comment made my day, thanks and I hope to meet your expectations in the upcoming videos!
The statement at 4:39 is incorrect. It's widely known that USB plugs exist in 4-dimensional subspace and it's not uncommon for three (or more) attempts to be required to plug it in.
or you know maybe you just look at the connector before pushing it in
Or get it in first try
@@joosekraft3405 That's what pussies do.
@Joose Kraft r/wooosh
Holy shit Fokker I found you again
It seems that in the Technic world, there's the "cool-factor" people, the "good-looking" people, and the "all creative functions" people. This is a "cool factor" people's set.
Thanks for this 30+ minute review Sariel! I can't imagine the time you invested in it.
Hamster would prefer cat skull prints.
That's strange, I was able to run the L and XL motors with the AA PU hub without any problem, even using the remote.
That is a real relieve. I really was counting on that...
Maybe the firmware on the AA PU needs an update. Mine got one recently..
@@bbeda I also think that the firmware wasn't the newest.
Both the XL and L motor worked fine for me with the Powered UP Smarthub and the Remote Control.
@252U Defender - Gaming and Piano your stupid, they’re friends
id rate it 3.6 roentgen: not great not terrible
Lol Chernobyl reference
Nice Review! The pieces are great and I like the mechanics, but the ground clearance is a joke for a model like this!
"Oh no, the enemy is coming with the new LEGO 42099!"
"Don't worry, I have three 1x6 bricks left!"
lol
Thx for a great review. This time x-ray shots really do come handy.
It does read the battery level. The fuel sign below the speed indicator. Nice Review
Um, I think not. It appears to be a static picture always showing the fuel at 100%.
@@searme it really shows the battery level although is not very precise. If your batteries are drained the hub will flash orange and you'll get a low battery warning while connecting, the app won't let you go further. I also had ~50% battery level shown on that screen so there's some feedback.
It's correct. The designers mentioned it in a video.
@@emanym3909 which video?
@@searme Now it does work as readings of the battery level and i thing the main issue of this set is open diferentials not torque that much
Thanks to show us the new parts properly, also with x-
ray images.
Wow that base looks rock sturdy! Dang its compact
I’m not sure if the designer made the front ground clearance low than the back on purpose, I think the more clearance it has the more the new wheel hub rubs against the lower control arm(around the ball joint area). But that’s not a big deal. I’m pretty satisfied with its preformance. The new motors work surprisingly faster and quieter than I expected.
Finally, I've been waiting for this video all week!
EDIT: LEGO screwed up AGAIN? Even with all the new parts? We waited 7 YEARS for a new crawler, and this is what we get?
What is the problem
Yeah
@@ItsHonski it's you again, I've seen your name somewhere
@@ItsHonski I think it was on Kevin Talbot's channel maybe
Am I the only one, who noticed the gas symbol in the middle, and the fact that it has changed during the video?
Is it possible, that it shows the battery level?
Excellent review. I really appreciate the x-ray shots as well as the thorough testing. The range on this thing is amazing. It is like MRC Tamiya and Lego had a baby. I LOVE it! This is definitely on my list as one of my next Lego sets to get. Thanks again.
Great review as usual Sariel! There are definitely some very useful and interesting new pieces in this set, I am looking forward to trying them out myself at some point!
I really hope they get us some smaller motors as well. Not strictly as small as the micromotor but maybe something 3x3x3?
it would be cool
C+ in city and creator sets would be neat
You can use the new Small Angular Motor from the Spike Essential set.
Thanks for the review! Cool set, but I feel that power cut-off feature would quickly get annoying. Unless I want to keep it on fairly level terrain, which in turn kind of defeats the purpose of being off-road...
I like the original RC system more
Nd Co I agree! If this came with an included remote then it would be much more valuable to me. What’s going to happen 20 years from now when nobody has a device which can control Control+ sets. RC sets and even PF sets, will still be controllable even at 20-30 years old. I think it’s nice that LEGO is trying to modernize Technic sets by being able to use a smartphone but a remote should be included as well just like the Powered Up City trains from last year and even if it doesn’t have all the things the app does like the challenges and tilt, I would just be happy with controlling the set.
@@vladimirchervenkov6949 . "What’s going to happen 20 years from now when nobody has a device which can control Control+ sets." - probably the same thing that now happens if you want to play Amiga games: emulations.
@@ThatImmo you would have to buy a separate bluetooth connector than
@@simskii. I think it's a quite safe bet Bluetooth will be in use for generations to come as a simple wireless control/data transfer device.
@@ThatImmo unless something revolutionary comes along, but i doubt that
Wow that front end is something else ugh!
*That is one good lookin' lego set!!*
In terms of MOCs, I suppose one could create their own "body" for the set, right?
Not.
Google's why?
Yeah just have the connections to the chassis in the same place as the original body.
Of course, so long as the structure isn't reliant on it, and with technics it rarely is.
from an offroader's perspective, I definitely agree that it needs more torque, and possibly better traction. (Lego can we have some squishy balloon tires for better surface contact?) but I feel your concern about the axle clearance is unjustified. when offroading, it's the driver's job to evade obstacles that can strike the axle (or worse, the diff) by driving around them, or putting the tire directly on them as you did on the three brick stack. if a stack of three bricks stops that thing, the error rests between the steering wheel and seat, not in the design of the axles.
Except this is a product for kids, not for professional drivers. Explain to them why their new $250 toy gets stuck on three bricks.
I really feel like the LEGO electronic sysyem is getting too complicated just for the fact of making it foolproof
i watched this after assembling my set, it wasn't until you pointed out the motors being geared up that i figured out why it had such little power...so far i've swapped one set of gears per motor and it's made a huge difference, the hard part is going to be switching the second set deeper inside without having to rebuild the whole thing...
Vroom vroom nice building sariel
It looks almost exactly like an American style monster truck with a Humvee body. Almost, because at the front the turntable projects down and to the front in a way that greatly reduces ground clearance compared to a real monster truck.
Personally, I make a distinction between monster trucks and off-roaders, they do fairly different things even if they both have larger tires and lifted suspensions compared to production vehicles. "4x4 HUMMER monster truck" would be a more accurate name for it I think.
all it needs now is a high speed motor and then you can have some fun offroading
Don't count on it. I think this was made to keep models from getting dangerously powerful.
@@GeneralPurposeVehicl yeah I think lego will never do that since Legos are also made for kids so they probably don't want them to get hurt
You and racing bricks are awsome
Makin some cool vids and stuff
In terms of actual offroading: older is better.
In nearly everything else: This one.
The hub is interesting, but I don't have any designs that could use such a thing, so for now I won't bother.
I still prefer ir remote. LEGO gave us a bluetooth remote for the train. Why couldn't they give a bluetooth remote for this????
yes i would’ve liked a remote for this set
szkoda - taki se im wyszedł - ciekawe czy ten nowy system działa z czujnikiem od boost i WeDo - power up działał.
Can’t wait for the comparison to the 9398, Sariel!
Still wonder these people come up with these designs! Its just mind-boggling :)
Well,outdoors it doesn't get completely outperformed by the 9398 because the 9398 would lose the IR link all the time :)
You'll see a comparison of these two tomorrow.
@@searme can't wait 👍
@@searme ir is still better
Imagine if Lego released a high speed motor or high torque motor. It would make builds so much more fun.
Exactly. But sadly this x-treme offroader... cannot offroad 'x-tremely.'
Yeah. I might try rigging a real economic car motor with legos, just to open more posiibilities
Yeah like putting a brushless traxxas motor in a lego - comparable case.
I might buy a traxxas very soon
Evan Herriges Cool! Those are my favorite rc cars. You watch Kevin Talbot?
33:39 well, then it's rather an extreme SUV than an extreme offroader🤔😂
No kurde blaszka, a już się miałem brać za pracę
Sariel to Polak? Bo ma Sariel.PL
@@ukasz6347 tak, Paweł Kmieć
The new Control+ system seems interesting and all the controls and measurements it provides should help creating cool models in the future. But it's yet another new, apparently incompatible system, causing too much fragmentation. It would be nice to have some PFC+ adapter cables, since I assume a lot of people have a bunch of PF pieces that they would want to re-use with a C+ hub.
And also the big issue is that the durability of this system is limited by how long the app is going to be maintained. If one day they decide they can't support it anymore, you'll be left with a useless system. This would be less a concern, for this Control+ system, as well as for SBrick and Buwizz, to have the (bluetooth) control protocol published, so that the community can develop their own controller apps and ensure its viability. (I think SBrick has published their protocol, though.).
I think I'm more excited by the new pin connector piece, at 11:37 :-)
clear descriptive review. all the other reviews shows it going down hill. i wanted to see the torque and up hill vids. ty!
the skulls do bother me a little bit, like sariel says, it is after all a toy, not a halloween prop.
and if lego puts skulls on their vehicles, why don't they make (designed by and official) lego tanks, both technic and non-technic (like the sets cobi makes). i mean, if they offer sariel a contract as tank designer/builder. i would try my best to buy those sets then
The problem with this set is that app is not forever, it will not work in 2-3-5 years if not updated. Then remote control of this set (and forecoming controlled by this app) will be useless. What about old sets? On the contrary, you can still play with old Lego sets like 9398. Anyway, nice review Sariel.
Great review as always. New drivetrain pieces and "biscuit" connector are very nice but there are still a lot of questions regarding the Control+ system. When the app will become customizable and how much customisation will we have?
Specifically you've mentioned that the hub cuts off power when the motors are stalled. I understand that it's a toy for children, but as an AFOL I don't want any handholding. What is the torque of new motors in comparison to PF ones?
So recently I've bought a used 42030 to stack up more PF elements. And I really hope that someone would eventually make a C+ to PF adapter.
Ordered mine at 10am today, should here tomorrow.
Great review as always loved the technical review superb video of it working but I won’t be buying it too similar to other sets come on Lego come up with something a bit different to trucks etc look forward to your review of the new liebhrr excavator now there’s a kit, regards David from the uk looking forward to your surprises soon
I love your reviews! I'm interested in this model because of the powerUp system and unique parts for me- suspension, steering, tyres and the biscuit connectors
Why the skulls?
Because racecar!
That Magic card reference at the end killed me hahaha
Please could you show us a seperate video where you make the offroader actually capable to offroad?
I surely can: ruclips.net/video/0-6Gl6AW7KI/видео.html
@@searme cool! And thanks
Hmm just a thought: those accelerometers on Control+ with additional software on your smart device might open possibility to build LEGO flying drone, so maybe LEGO will go airborne finally?
Lol, accelerometer is smallest problem.
Exactly.
yeah, probably the weight of LEGO frame, control unit and motors will be too much
To get airborne you need some sort of ballon and once you use one it makes the accelerometer unnecessary.
Do you guys think these new powerfunctions will be a great succes or not? I wonder...
The price dropped to 140€ across most stores here for a while now.
Which is a pretty amazing price imo. Not really that much into building but 140 for this seems to be a good price just for the parts alone.
No one:
Sariel: This is the hub X-rayed
Why the CONTROL+ does not allow to create your own design controls? Always thought that LEGO was intended for learning creativity, not just building the model from the instruction and leaving it like that for eternity... At least they could publish instructions for the API for people who would like to do it.
Excellent review as always. I really wanted to like this off-roader but wish it would have more torque. I have the original and like it bit thought this would have been an improvement. Thanks for the excellent side by side comparison.
They should also bring back the 9398 and 41999, rock crawlers own, this new one if pretty good, new power functions looks awsome.
Pro-line Racing makes 1.9" rim size R/C rock crawler tires that fit on the rims. I bought some knock offs on Amazon. 4.7" tall, look wicked cool on the 42099! Have not run it with new tires as I'm about to tear down and build MOC's I saw on Rebrickable before I play. I posted photos on Rebrickable forum, search for Non Lego Tires.
thanks for review, since I am almost slept with 42099 last weeks, It was a pleasure to see something different in your and @racingbrick's review. I also visited x-Ray at dentist clinic, but they have weak and small x-ray module for human teeth, so I can't check motors as you.
I also did measure of torque (using 6x AA Rechargeable 1,2V elements) - they have similar torque, close as RPM's. So what's the difference (except differnt motors inside and reductors)? Any advantages?
Powered UP "XL" NEW!!! RPM 296 TORQUE H*cm 20,6
Powered UP "L" NEW!!! RPM 272 TORQUE H*cm 21,8May be L is quicker to accelerate and XL is slower and more intertional?
Nice review Sariel, i might buy the set , it looks great :)
The black connector 11:36 is really great :)
Great Video and it helped me to resist buying this model. Too much restrictions. Agree with all of your Cons.
Great review, appreciate all the work that went into it.
Great review. It's a fun set but that price is even worse than I expected. I wonder if TLG will redesign the stickers for the Chinese market?
Good review
Nice review! Shame about the torque. I really have to consider whether to buy it or not now.
U can change the gears on it and make the torque better. There are videos on youtube about how to do it.
tbh... 4/5 in VALUE??
If anything that's the category where it stinks the most...
And the compatibility issue is just a no-go.
I'll stick with BuWizz and the like and enjoy the "old" generation a bit more.
Ashmodai amazon selling for 133 at the moment, a much more agreeable price than Lego’s crazy rrp !!
Agreed... Odd
swap the turntable around at the front so the black side is visible, because the grey side being visible looks a little out of place
I don't know if anyone would make such a vid, but i would really like this compared to 42065 and/or 42095
OK I'll save for this
Great review as always :) not fussed about the lack of a B-model, as those are rarely ever as good as the A-model
Question about the new orange colour - isn’t that just the colour Bionicle fans call keetorange?
Looks like the same color as the hazmat guy from CMF several years ago.
Gimme the 42100 !!!!!!
3:15 it's "recommended" 11+ anyway
X-Treme Off-Roader more like No-Off-Roader
Now if only those were planetary _portal_ wheel hubs ...
Luckily they are not. It would ruin the turning angle.
@@racernatorde5318 Really? How?
At least it would increase the ground clearance.
@@PhoenixClank Oh it would help with the ground clearance, but lets have a look at the existing portal hubs. They force you to have the turning point of the wheel quite far away from the center of the wheel. By doing so the wheels move forwards and backwards quite a lot. It may not be the biggest of issues for a model like this one but for most mocs to come it would be really annoying.
@@racernatorde5318 I see.
But I suspect the most likely use of portal hubs would be in MOCs that require a lot of ground clearance, and generally those don't have restricting wheel housings.
Now that I think about it though, it wouldn't make much sense to have portal planetary hubs because the gear reduction can already be built into the portal-ness itself. So this model would simply have been better of with portal hubs instead of planetary ones.
Of course I'm still really glad that we got planetary hubs in the first place.
I wonder if its possible to get semi realistic drive shaft speed by connecting the inputs of hubs together and powering one output while the other output drives the differential shaft
combine the new wheel hubs and motors with the old 9398 and you will have decent model with better remote
The thing I hate most about this set is that there aren't any compatibility with the older generations, like the NXT wires with the RCX stackables, or the PF wires with the old 9V system. If the new hub does not support moc programming, I'm ditching new LEGO sets
I saw some different vids from PF vs PU motors and PU shows speedier and how a bit more torque. Weird that the inner parts looks the same. Also not being able to connect visa versa is really a steel i think
super tout terrain
Sariel, zawsze nurtowało mnie dlaczego Lego daje wiele kolorów klocków, z których buduje się wnętrze modeli (czasami również zewnętrznych)?
Co przeszkadza w ujednoliceniu lub sprzedaży zestawów w odcieniach danego koloru?
Żeby dzieciom łatwo było je zobaczyć w instrukcji.
@@searme to miało brzmieć jak obrażanie dzieci? :)
Nie, to miało brzmieć jak odpowiedź na pytanie.
Super nice LEGO RC 💖😊👍
Ehh I’m not liking the new smart hub, the only huge upside is that it does better in sunlight. But I prefer the usual PF system. That new wheel hub will definitely be used by other builders in the future! Such a handy piece, you planning to use it for any of your creations sariel?
Absolutely.
Great review Sariel! I'll be getting this set
I love my 9398 and 8466
What happens if you mod it and use regular wheel hubs? What about increasing the ride height, potentially locking the diffs and changing the gear ratio like racing brick did?
no it doesn't fit.
THey could just made the front studier by making that front steering column in an angle, than a second part could be connected to the suspension. Making it as sturdy as he rear counterpart
Dang do you get all these models or do you need to return them? I guess returning isnt that bad, you get a nice time with them and its super cool to test all models :)
Does the app also collect data like ridden meters, extreme angles. Perhaps special moves made and such?
Give it selectable rear steering and new gear ratios and it's cool as hell
Have you tried using ni-zn rechargeable batteries in your MOCs? They have a voltage of 1.6 volts and a max voltage of 1.9, so work amazingly with Sbrick
Nope, I haven't come across these.
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They are great for giving creations the extra power they need I got mine from hobbyking and use them for all my mocs.
I prefer to use an arrangement of 8 AA rechargeables. It is really cheap, gets good run time and there is no shortage of power. The voltage is the same as using nizn batteries
ZOMGinator129
But surely putting aa cells in normal lego PF battery pack is much simpler than creating an entire new battery pack.
Ben Maybery yes but with nizn batteries you have to buy a charger, at least 12 batteries for any sort of run time and remove the current limiter in the PF battery pack
Hey. I just finished mine but I am wondering if it is normal that the blue light (on the box where the batteries are placed) remains always on. Even if we do not use it, this light stays on. I am afraid batteries won't stay long like this. Any idea? TX a lot
Lol Cannibal Corpse, nice
I know I could try this myself but, I was wondering if the round part of the planetary hubs fit inside of the hole in the 60T turntable?
that way we can have more torque on something like a winch or a crane arm. I suppose you could also hook these hubs in in parralel (i.e as a comopound planetary gear set) and get something like 10:1 instead of 5:1.
Nope, it doesn't fit.
@@searme damnit. I thought LEGO was supposed to be a system >:/
Hey Sariel, what are your thoughts on "illegal" building techniques? Do you use them for custom MOC's, or do you use only techniques that Lego uses?
I don't know exactly what techniques LEGO considers illegal, but they seem pretty restrictive so I guess I've probably used a bunch of them in my MOCs.
@@johnc6466 usually any technique that puts stress on parts, or isnt a solid connection. Any technique that makes pieces very hard to separate, flex, or surfaces that contact too firmly
9398 definitely looks much, much better but those XL motors are nice. I wonder how 9398 would do with XL motors? I see in the impressions that 42099 is outperformed by 9398. Certainly not in the speed department. Did I miss a part where there was more comparison? Thanks Sariel for another great review.
Thanks, comparison comes tomorrow, stay tuned!
Look forward to it! 9398 is definitely one of my favourites despite the slow speed :)
Did anyone try to integrate Lego Lights 88005 to this model? and if yes how did you manage to get them working.
Thanks.
i love this orange since it reminds me of mango ice cream mmmm
If you were to use these new motors in a moc without using the gear reducing hubs, you could potentially get a decently fast rc car right?
We could get a decently fast LEGO car since 2003, buddy: ruclips.net/video/gldH77qhAMU/видео.html
The price is just absurd. Really! $250 for 900 pieces, (Nevermind, it seems about the right price) I would expect this thing to topple over big obstacles, but i guess not.
Great review anyway
You do understand that some of these 900 pieces are brand new, complex electronic parts, right? A motor or a smart hub cost much more to make than a brick.
I understand, just a little mad though
Remember the ripsaw thing, that was a deal since it was remote controlled. But it was using the old version, not new
It sure was a deal, but still some people were whining "no, it only has 370 pieces" , completely ignoring the fact that these pieces included about $80 worth of PF elements in a $100 set,
Sariel's LEGO® Workshop well....yeah
How dissapointing that an 'extreme offroader' cannot offroad 'extremely.' The product's name is a flatout lie, and that I hate 😕
It’s made out of lego 🙄
@@coasterfanatic3441 that i've realised, but anyone would expect it to have more torque so that it can actually drive over bumpy terrain. Because the two crawler sets made before it can
I would like to see this setcompared to the CaDa 61006w, a comparison of the performance. How about it?
This is a channel about Lego, not CaDa.