The 2022 Indian Super Chief Limited Is My New Favorite
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I started watching you six years ago! I learned to ride with your videos and lessons.
So glad to see you at almost half a million
Indian definitely giving Harley some serious competition.
Indian copies all of Harley’s designs. That’s coming from a guy who is very critical of Harley… but it’s fact
@@charkswitlazers Indians are way cooler looking tough (except the baggers, which are hideous on both, but especially Indian), and have better specs.
@@jkre I disagree, they look like plastic bikes.
@@charkswitlazers agree to disagree, Indian Chief dark horse is the most beautiful and manly machine ever mass produced on this planet. Too bad I have never had the opportunity to ride it yet. I did own a scout for one summer and it is extremely easy bike to ride.
I also tried my friends fat bob, and that couldn't handle turns at all, it felt like the front wheel doesn't have control, I have never before been scared to ride a motorcycle, but that one was just terrifying to turn with. On top of that I could still feel the shaking of the engine 2 hours after the 30 minutes ride. It's worse than on a road roller (yes, I have operated/driven them also) and shaking is it's purpose. Only Harley related bike I like is Buell, I had the XB12S for a while also, that was amazing bike.
@@charkswitlazershow many bikes did Harley copy ???
I can easily make the argument that Harley copied BMW with its fairing, or even Honda.
So let's see all the things that Harley copied from others.
GPS, cruise control, anti-locking brakes, traction control, alarm systems, OneTouch locking saddlebags, lean intuitive headlights, linked braking, liquid-cooled motor, automatic valve lash adjustment, and much much more.
But wait a minute, some of that stuff Harley has not even gotten around to copying yet but they will.
People like you crack me up😅🤣😂 you somehow think of Harley's got it then it must have been copied off of Harley😅🤣😂🤣😅
Big plus keeping your phone on you vs the bike, is if your in a accident and can't walk/crawl back to bike can be a life or death situation avoided.
Was in the market for a Harley Road King but this video just made me take a huge pause. This bike is incredible.
Had a Road King for nine years, rode the Springfield Darkhorse and it is so much better than the RK.
I'm in the same boat. was considering the road king, but now I'm thinking I'm going to get this. I considered the springfield, but I find it ugly.
@@-pcmr-108 I bought a low rider st 😂
@@danielolvera6225 Interesting turn of events, but still a great bike. Enjoy man, ride safe.
I wish Polaris kept the victory bikes around as part of the Indian line, these are awesome machines and they just need that victory attitude to earn my money
My experience so far with Indian seems to indicate that they are building their bikes trying to put the center of gravity lower to the ground. This would allow the bike to have a lighter overall feel.
U gotta hop on a springfield darkhorse. I'm loving the reviews. It's nice to get reviews from a motorcycle fan and not a brand fan.
I agree. You get hard bags with that one! It’s a nice bike.
Yes!!!! That's my Push Present bike. The Springfield Darkhorse is a wonderful machine.
I think you should mention that Indian has demo ride days pretty often you can go and try all the bikes free. I have ridded all the bikes is a lot of fun.
I can't believe all the extra stuff that comes on that chief. A 116ci on that small frame! What a fun and practical bike. This is something that someone in Florida can use everyday as a commuter.
I have one and it’s a blast to ride. Sport mode rocks! We have two other Indians as well
@@kevinb.3528 2 into 1, intake and tune is all it needs.
OMG! This is the most beautiful cruiser on the market! AND that denim pearl blue....wow! What a stunning classic and timeless bike! Love the tech on it too! Thanks for doing this review!
Overall quality and reliability is better with Indian. Indian engines are so much smoother than Harley too. I would buy one if I could afford it.
Now you're making me start to appreciate cruisers, this is a great bike that looks good but even looks better in blue, just like the GM. Man bikes for rent you people are truly blessed.
I just picked up the super chief. I wanted the metallic black, and so far the only thing I don't like on mine is the foot boards over pegs. Less angle for turn, but it has plenty of power and I have an hour commute and I'm a daily rider. I enjoy the hell out of mine.
Good seeing you! Seen you weekend before this as well, but I only waved hi. I enjoy these videos and I appreciate the motorcycle advice.
So glad that you've been doing reviews. Super helpful. Would you tour on this bike?
One shock in the rear is superior to 2 shocks, if there is any discrepancy between the shocks in the back - you'll have a rear wheel death wobble, which overemphasizes the importance of spreading weight evenly in side cases. With Harley softail you don't have that issue. Harley dyna has 2 shocks in rear, you can see videos of death wobble, it doesn't look pretty.
The "Death Wobble" on the Dyna vs Softtail isn't about 1 vs 2 shocks. It is because the Dyna is(was) rubber mounted without stabilizer bars, while, strangely, the rubber mounted Sportsters have the stabilizers. The Softtail has a rigid mounted engine and balance shafts, so no rubber mounts where the engine mounts to the frame and swing-arm, therefore nothing to "wobble"..
Wrong.
Love this bike!!! That 116 in Sport Mode is super fun. Also the 4 TFT gauge is incredible.
Indian version of the Heritage a nice bike (but remember kids it seems everything is good/actually works today unlike 25 years ago). Ole' Dalton could sell ice to Eskimo's, one slick dude. Market is getting crowded with these bikes and the prices are crazy, not sure if demand will keep up.
Great video! Your reviews are spot on always. This definitely edges out the Heritage Classic.
Nice bike, I like the features. I definitely dig the navigation 👍
The built in nav is actually a deterrent. You’re phone has a far better navigation system. Also you’ll be upgrading your phone more frequently than your motorcycle. Plus the damn bike has a usb port to charge the latest iPhone with crash detection! If your going to bring your phone with you. why not connect it to your bike.
I own this very bike, the 2022 Super Chief Limited in Maroon. I swapped the seat out for a Corbin, changed the windscreen to a Freedom Shields, and I installed some slip-ons from Dean Speed. With those changes, I really like the bike. I'm a tech junkie but I have a love/hate relationship with Ride Command. The map is very iffy and I've returned to putting my Garmin on the bars when I really need good navigation.
Got a question about the handling.
I can’t seem to get a straight answer from people.
Is it a boat that you need to be cautious in the corners, or is it out stuff and lithe?
I know it probably won’t be like my Vulcan 650 but just trying to get a bead on it because I was going to get a Harley soft tail slim s but that thing is brutal on the turns😂
@@izzojoseph2 Going to try this again. I responded and included a link to this video not catching it was this video you were responding to. I feel like this video answers it. I think the bike is very nimble and not like a boat at all.
@@virginiatrailcameravideos thanks!
How are the saddlebags? I have the bobber, and I'm looking around for bags.
same dude - the navigation alone would do it for me - this one is on my list for second bike. Looking for a long distance rider.
I have the 22 chief dark horse. with mini apes. love the bike.
Bought a Chieftain Dark Horse last year and I'm loving it.
Rode the regular chief. Even in sport mode I could not get over the throttle delay and the gap before the sensor actually picked up twist. I was so devistated cause I really wanted to take home an Indian chief after I test rode it and I loved everything else. That alone pushed me to the heritage(it has a USB port too, but deff missing out on all the other awesome tech)
I don't know why, but watching you shop for a sporty comfy cruiser has been great. Looking forward to your final answer.
Had my super chief for a year, in sport I really haven't picked up on that gap. Very minimal to me, maybe I'm just not paying enough attention. Mine has been awesome
You could have got the throttle by wire tuned. I know my Triumph was twitchy and same with Scout til tuned to my liking. Wonder if that slight delay is to mitigate the bump throttle twitch that happens when riding that a lot of people get.
Just had mine out, just got back. Bill had me paranoid. No gap at all in sport mode. Maybe the engine? Mine is the 116
Sport mode helps that as Steve doesn’t have the delay. Did you try that whole test riding?
I have the exact same bike. Sport mode is a freaking blast. Also have a ‘17 Icon Roadmaster and wife a 16 Scout 60
I got my 2019 HD FLHR from an Indian dealership..
They had a super chief in that blue color ..
Looks sooo good in person.
And that screen looks so damn legit in person
Great feeling bike
Hows the vibration in the handlebars/foot pegs/floorboards compared to the Harley?
Watched your review on this one, and the scout. How much does the air cooled effect performance? I live in South Australia where it is quite warm (41°c here at the moment). Would love the larger bike but concerned about the air cool engine.
The Heritage and the Super Chief are about the same price. The Heritage 114 has more hp. and is a little lighter with a lower seat height. The old saying is, if you don't turn around and look at your bike after parking it, then you bought the wrong bike. I have a need to just go out in the garage and just look at my Heritage. To each their own. I had GPS on my 2017 Street Glide Special and it wasn't worth a crap. You should check to see if that GPS might need flashed for an up date every so often.
Definitely will get the prettiest bike. Have a gorgeous an 06 Softail Deluxe and 2014 Motto Guzzi California Touring, love them both, but definitely an Indian Chief Vintage must have ASAP. YOU MUST HAVE ONE UNIQUE BEAUTIFUL BIKE IN YOUR GARAGE TO GO TO WHEN THE WIFE NAGS. SHE NEEDS TO BE REMINDED, YOU HAVE OPTIONS 😊
The older Heritage models like in the Evo era are very nice looking bikes but for my personal taste i find these Indian Super Chief Limiteds to be better looking than the modern Heritage models. Taste is subjective though.
Like the reviews but what I’m seeing is you are not comparing equally priced and features on the bikes . Of coarse your going to like a bike more when it has more stuff. But is the price of all the extras worth it . Keep up the excellent work .
Good informative video👍. I have the same bike (blue like the showroom one) with the stage 2 performance upgrade kit. On sports mode it's a totally different machine than stock. Ride safe.
I would like the 5 gallon tank and Harleys dealer network. I own a 2018 Heritage Anniversary edition. If I was in the market for a new bike I would take a hard look at the Indian.
Fast Eddie that bike is cool man looks like a smooth cruiser that is comfortable.
So glad you do ride reviews. I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
Loving the reviews man
All the tech on these bikes gets everyone so excited, except me. I must be old but this type of bike needs a speedometer and some idiot lights. Ambient temperature on a motorcycle? I mean, you can tell if it’s hot or cold. I’ve been all over this country with a map and it was great. Planning your route whil stopped on a scenic overlook is half the fun.
What's the MSRP for the bike you test rode?
Does this model have teat cylinder deactivated when at idle?
Great vid.I will check out the bike at my local dealer.
That's a fine looking bike!
Wow, that engine is massive.
One beautiful Bike omg.
Did u find the floor boards to be kinda positioned weird ?
They’re up high with a angle on them.
The HD boards feel better to me.
But I’m a HD Simp
Road King Standard next, please!
So did you like the navigation?
Indian San Diego is a decent shop. The parts person Tabitha knows her Indian parts and accessories. I would choose the Indian chief over Harley anything any day!
Suspension comments were helpful.
Q: GPS free with buy? or monthly fee
In the market for a new bike. Watching a lot of reviews. And after a lot of rides and looks I still prefer my 2007 Road King.
Can you do a review on the triumph bobber.
Hate the cables hanging under the bars. But that’s the only thing.
Would love to hear your review on the new sport chief!
Great review
Since you’ve ridden the Triumph Rocket 3 GT as well, can you comment on the differences between this Super Chief Limited and that one? Which might you prefer and why?
The Indian. Because, America.
AND...Indian's average 35% more off-the-showroom hp/torque is about $2,000 more 'Harley hidden costs' you are avoiding, too! Only their Low Rider S is 'near direct competition', when it comes to raw power (we won't even get into the absolute JOKE of what Harley THINKS that MSRP means...)
New to motorcycles, have an Indian scout as first bike, 2 months in. I'm disappointed Indian doesn't do better exhaust from factory. Nothing sounds like a Harley, but Indians seem to sound like Jetsens spaceship to me.
Easy cure for that: Drill out the rear disc in each muffler with a hole saw. Perfect sound, but not too loud.
Much cheaper to replace an exhaust than it is to make a Harley ride like an Indian
I ended up chopping my OE exhaust in half, sounds better without being overly loud.
Do they not make the limited for 2023? I don't see it on their 2023 lineup on their web site.
To start off the passenger seat does not have a back rest to prevent them from falling off. It's a no go for me right away and should come standard. The other thing is these massive bikes should all have reverse. If I was to spend 10's of thousands of dollars it would be a Honda Goldwing because they have reverse.
Does the display on the speedometer keep flashing like that or is that a reflection from being outside, Because that would be irritating to me looking down and my instrument display strobing.
It's because he's recording the screen with the GoPro.
Might be a better bike? On a practical aspect as you say…the dealer network for Indian sucks.
Really depends where you live. I have 3 or 4 within a hr drive. Even if I owned a Harley I wouldn't goto any of the 2 local dealers near me my friends haven't had any good things to say. Seems cruiser,Harley riders specifically, need a dealer every 20 mins. Sport bike, retro, adventure touring guys have no problem with a smaller dealer network. Also dealer support will take longer to build if people just continue to stick with the same brand that gives you crumbs for a higher price.
Yeah... Harley is everywhere. I have 2 within 15 minutes of my house. I have to go a few hours to get to the nearest Indian.
Great Video Kidoo !!!!
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some free advice: Buy some aftermarket bags, the Indian super Chief saddlebags are tiny and are not worth the cost.
Beast Mode. Indian.
id critique the salesman, he said you need to plug your phone in via usb to get nav and music control... theres no way this bike has all that and doesnt have bluetooth right? RIGHT??? because my iphones port is screwed and has been since the first month i bought it lol
What’s it take to actually get an address loaded into the gps?
Man I love my 2022 Cheaftan elite. AND it is not a RICE BURNER Alla-he-Davids son now is. Hahaha.
Heritage has the USB slot
Renting will tell the truth and all about. ✌🏻
Harley-Davidson is still number one look at Harley's fitting finish they are expensive but look what you're getting
In Moto America I go for Indian in the baggers
Oh, Man. For years I've thought that I was in the center of the target market for Indian Motorcycles. Old enough to remember some of the original Indians as old bikes still in use, and loved them. But if the Indian brand now means a rolling computer system, having menus within menus within menus, and more wiring than a modern fighter jet, et al, disguised as a motorcycle, then surely I'm way out near the fringe of that market. A generation from now, some new and radical team of innovative motorcycle designers are going to make a very basic, analog bike, and, being such a novel, attractive, enjoyable and affordable option it will sell like hotcakes. Until then, I understand that it's a race to see who can overcomplicate the definition of "motorcycle" to the point where no one wants one, or can afford one.
The Ride Command menu system is actually very simple and easy to navigate......it's much less complicated than what you may think.
That said, you can get this bike with the analog gauge as well.....options, gotta love 'em!
Is the flicking on that speedometer bothersome cause it’s driving me crazy and I’m sitting in my kitchen chair watching you ride.
The flicker effect is caused by the camera.
Harleys heritage has an easy turn knob for rear shock adjustment. This bike does not have that.
That should be BMW size display, small round wont do 😛
In case y’all didn’t hear, it’s got navigation.
Looks like a nomad 1500 to me.
INDIAN WINS IN TECH
The HD Heritage is a more refined motorcycle. It has a more tractable engine and without doubt a more compliant ride. I own a 2018 Heritage and have ridden the Indian on 3 occasions. I couldn’t get back on my bike fast enough. The Indian is one sharp bike but lacks the Harley’s rideability and poise. It should when you think about it. They’ve been working on bikes like the Heritage for over 110 years.
It would be even nicer if it had built in GPS. 😉
Then you would be paying for map updates annually. A mobile phone is far superior.
@@spartanx169x I don't want a GPS either as the software will eventually become outdated.
I said it because the OP really liked it and mentioned it a lot. 😉
You know the suspension adjusts on the Chief right? I don't know about Harley u were talking about though. Maybe can be adjusted to be like Hatleys.
Do the bags come off
Don’t know
Motorcycle companies these days targeting officehipsters and people with to much money on their account. Motorcycles ridiculously overpriced stuffed with gadgets for paper-pushers and bureaucrats. For me its about an engine,a throttle, the wind in my face and on something i can afford, first and foremost. Other than that,nice rewiew.
I own one and the GPS is a real piece of garbage. It is not reliable. rarely or never recalculate the itinerary and always trying to go on the highways. This the biggest complaint about this bike. All the rest is great !!!
Since it pairs with your phone, I would just use my phones gps which is very reliable. Navigation is the least of my worries on this system and it does so much more.
The flicker on the display is caused by your camera, right?
Yes, the refresh rate of the screen vs shutter speed of the camera.
Beautiful bike but I can't stand the speedometer flickering constantly. Why does it do that?
I think the refresh rate of the screen and the frame rate of the camera are out of phase, I don’t think it would look like that in person.
Definitely the camera, mine does not do that
Man these are gorgeous bikes and I've heard they have excellent reliability, but damn are they super expensive in my country, In the US their price could be within 14k$ - 15k$, In my country theyre atleast a WHOPPING 25k$ daaamn man! I guess I'll stick to 25year old, million mile rust bucket hand me down Hondas :(
I personally am not a fan of all that tech. I know, i know. Just more stuff to go wrong imo.
I just can't get over that chrome. I don't even know why but I hate chrome on vehicles.
74 to 54 🙂
It's an Indian Heritage. LOL
Watched the entire video hoping to get your feel about the handlebars......nope.
So you like GPS. Got it.
Wait… Does this bike have GPS?😂
Please, you are all about informing people, so:
What you are describing is POWER at lower RPMs... Torque (at the wheel) is gear dependant, power is not.
Saying what you want is Torque is meaningless.
So, what you are referring as desirable is a nice POWER CURVE (or power band), where POWER comes in early and sustained for a big range of RPM.
When you are saying "power" vs torque, that is misleading. A dyno does not measure horsepower. It measures torque. Torque IS power. Horsepower is a mathematical number using torque, RPMs and a mathematically known variable. You FEEL torque. You COMPUTE horsepower.
I knew what he meant but that’s just me
Harley's Pan America is junk for navigation. Fully reliant on your phone. It suuuuucks.
:(
Great now moto jitsu is gonna stop waving at other riders and be a leather cosplay dad
Jk
Oh good. It has speakers. Now everyone can hear “wild thing” on repeat
Can you test some not boring bikes please?😀😂
I'm sorry, but your reasons for buying that bike over another were silly.
-Ride modes are not necessary at all. My bike has them and I never change them; no need. You need modes to control the bike differently? Really?
-Built-in GPS! So what? I have a phone mount, and GPS on a phone is set and forget.
-Rain on your phone? Rainproof cases.
-Phone being distracting? What? It's no more distracting than looking at the GPS on your bike.
-USB charging? Most bikes have that built-in; if not, have a USB port put on your bike.
Maybe it's because you haven't been riding long--and you haven't, comparably--that you find these modern trivialities so important, but they're not.
Before anyone says anything, I don't own an Indian or a Harley, so I don't have a dog in this fight; I own a Triumph. Just my opinion on your judging criteria.
Well, our taste in bikes just like our taste in women. We all have different taste and needs. The lucky ones who can have more options and choices. If I only have one choice, definitely will be a Harley Road King. Has the classic looks, the bags and the comfy frame, plus you can add few mods to suit you. Indian Chief definitely a good choice as well. Age, strength, height and weight of a rider plays a part of your choice. Let’s get the biggest and the heaviest the fastest while we are healthy to ride.
He's not "judging", it's just his personal opinion (you have one too) and they're all welcome.