What punishment for 'Rust' armorer means for Alec Baldwin's trial

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • The Arizona armorer was sentenced to 18 months in prison for the deadly "Rust" shooting and an expert goes into what the means for Alec Baldwin's trial.

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  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 Месяц назад +40

    Baldwin should be jailed.

    • @birchsongsltd.6831
      @birchsongsltd.6831 Месяц назад

      Why?
      The so called 'professional' who wad hired to keep live ammo off the movie set failed at her job. A year and a half is all she has to serve after HER NEGLIGENCE got someone killed.
      His liability is limited to the fact that he hired her, full stop.

    • @RoundShades
      @RoundShades Месяц назад +1

      @@birchsongsltd.6831 , that would be true, if a producer hired an armorer, with full authority due to expertise, who makes everything function for the actor.
      Are you really saying that's what happened here? No, that's not what happened here.
      The producer was also the actor, and was frequently overriding the armorer on decisions and handling, having dismissed the armorer from the closed set before the incident.
      The armorer's only fault was not insisting on a dismissal in writing or else she would personally take the firearms and leave without letting anyone take them back, and insisting if they call the police then that's fine so there will be a record that she's been stripped off responsibility for what happens.
      If that happened, then the shooting occurred, they'd have Baldwin pinned for it. The ambiguity got her sentenced, and him scott free.

    • @birchsongsltd.6831
      @birchsongsltd.6831 Месяц назад

      ​@@RoundShades Not buying this argument ESPECIALLY considering the fact that live ammo rounds were being fired at cans and bottles by the crew during down time on the set, again addressing the immaturity of the hired 'expert.'
      What your suggesting is that a head chef should be held soley liable for one of his staff who sickened and killed a patron.
      The chef's liability is that he/she hired someone who presented as something the were not. Experienced.

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 Месяц назад +2

      @@birchsongsltd.6831Certified Instructor and life long shooter here. I'm guessing you have no firearms experience to know about handling safety as it applies to the person in possession.
      You can't assign liability. Baldwin pulled the trigger. Baldwin killed someone. He's responsible regardless of someone else's say-so, just as you or I would be.

    • @Theodore_Twombly
      @Theodore_Twombly Месяц назад

      @@birchsongsltd.6831 Just for being Alec Baldwin.

  • @karenswanson118
    @karenswanson118 Месяц назад +10

    He created the unsafe environment on set.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      He did. But did that rise to the level of criminal negligence?

  • @artielatzko9379
    @artielatzko9379 Месяц назад +23

    Baldwin pulled the trigger. There shouldn't have been live rounds on the set period. I understand the reason for live rounds is primarily for target practice. But on the set there is no real reason for accuracy.

    • @asherhouseman6838
      @asherhouseman6838 Месяц назад

      He claims he didn't pull the trigger (but he knows he did). Not only that but he was in charge of the entire set and did not run a tight ship. He was more concerned with how many close up shots of himself he could get into the movie.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад +3

      There is no target practice on a movie set. Ever. There is never any reason for live rounds on a movie set. On a movie set you aren't supposed to point the gun at anybody. They choose camera angles to obscure what the actors are pointing their weapons at.

    • @birchsongsltd.6831
      @birchsongsltd.6831 Месяц назад

      Another dreg led by the nose and the news media.
      Pulled a trigger or not, the person hired to keep the set free of live ammo failed at her job. Baldwin's liability ends at hiring her.

    • @READY_OR_NOT
      @READY_OR_NOT 28 дней назад

      @@stargazer7644 that's actually just not true. But I'm sure you'll continue to make that argument to anyone who will listen.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 28 дней назад

      @@READY_OR_NOT And you can just say anything you like and not back up your claims with anything whatsoever. IWLMS rules and IATSE and SAG Union rules on movie sets simply do not allow the conduct you're talking about.

  • @sgg17003
    @sgg17003 Месяц назад +8

    The judge was wrong to say that the armorer alone was responsible. Without having Baldwin's part looked into, a determination was made without those facts.

    • @asherhouseman6838
      @asherhouseman6838 Месяц назад +4

      The judge didn't say the armorer was soley responsible, she said Hannah alone turned the gun from a harmless to a lethal weapon. Once Baldwin got hold of that lethal weapon he performed his own reckless actions for which he should be duly convicted.

    • @sgg17003
      @sgg17003 Месяц назад +1

      ​@asherhouseman6838 That's true. As they say, you can delegate authority but not responsibility. I highly doubt he'd spend a day in jail.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      Baldwin is irrelevant to whether the armorer was guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад +2

      @@asherhouseman6838 I don't see how you can call Baldwin's actions reckless. He had every reason to believe the armorer and 1st asst director did their jobs and that gun was safe. You have a real problem with showing criminal negligence there which is required for involuntary manslaughter by lawful act in New Mexico. The Armorer's actions were clearly reckless.

  • @redbeardedberserker
    @redbeardedberserker Месяц назад +33

    Baldwin literally killed someone...He needs to be held accountable.

    • @fluteloop6737
      @fluteloop6737 Месяц назад +1

      But probably won't be

    • @atonaareyus
      @atonaareyus Месяц назад +4

      He was not responsible
      She was !

    • @summerobannon7784
      @summerobannon7784 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@atonaareyusthey weren't filming he's responsible

    • @taztazzington736
      @taztazzington736 Месяц назад +5

      Get out of here. Those ppl gave him a gun he’s an actor. No way in hell would u suspect a bullet being ina prop gun!!. What if that was you.. come on

    • @redbeardedberserker
      @redbeardedberserker Месяц назад

      @@atonaareyus excuse me? He pulled the trigger. Are you dumb?

  • @dinalee9698
    @dinalee9698 Месяц назад +15

    I absolutely agree that neither of these 2 have shown any kind of remorse and in Baldwins case his arrogance was ugly it’s hard to look at him, in print and on screen and then there’s his wife and her phony accent… they deserve each other.

    • @tracyjohnson5023
      @tracyjohnson5023 Месяц назад +3

      Baldwin will cry and show remorse at his trial. He is an actor after all and will put on a show.

    • @dinalee9698
      @dinalee9698 29 дней назад

      @@tracyjohnson5023 I’ve got ninety kids with a non English speaking wife they need me…. 😭😭😭

    • @minidigger1000
      @minidigger1000 28 дней назад

      I don't think you're being fair here Alec could not have known there was live bullets in the gun

    • @dinalee9698
      @dinalee9698 28 дней назад

      @@minidigger1000 I think you’re being naive as a gun owner myself it’s my responsibility alone to ensure gun safety when handling my weapon or when I’m around someone who is handling a weapon. Have you seen the video of the range instructor messing with a pistol and the client sits there right in front of him and the gun goes off and he kills her. She should have been behind where that gun was pointed and as an instructor he should have 1000% known better. I put that on him as she was there to learn how to use a gun and clearly there weren’t enough safety protocols in place had there been she might still be alive. As the person who was in charge of this movie he had a duty to see that the weapons department was properly staffed with knowledgeable people handling those guns and he himself as the last person to handle that gun should have checked for himself. Guns don’t kill people but idiots and crazy people do. I put him in the category of idiots.

    • @minidigger1000
      @minidigger1000 28 дней назад

      @@dinalee9698 I hear you but still they were busy making a movie they have people to do that for them ,I'm only giving him the benefit of the doubt

  • @ednareiman4554
    @ednareiman4554 Месяц назад +12

    So the truth is Alec Baldwin bought his way out!

  • @dockilljoy9017
    @dockilljoy9017 Месяц назад +17

    Proof if you are famous and rich you literally get away with stuff like this, while getting someone else blamed for the crime.

    • @virgo-in-cyn1537
      @virgo-in-cyn1537 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, look at Trump!! ☝🏼🇺🇸💙🗳️🇺🇸💙🗳️🇺🇸💙🗳️

    • @tammyboyd1988
      @tammyboyd1988 Месяц назад

      ​@virgo-in-cyn1537 yea look at OBiden

    • @birchsongsltd.6831
      @birchsongsltd.6831 29 дней назад +2

      It was the armors fault doof. She got 18 months.

    • @tammyboyd1988
      @tammyboyd1988 29 дней назад

      @virgo-in-cyn1537 yeah, look at Biden!!

    • @dockilljoy9017
      @dockilljoy9017 29 дней назад

      @@birchsongsltd.6831 super doofus - know the reason why Alec Baldwin hire professional armor is so they can place blame when something goes wrong. I got money, He’s playing this all along with the way to get off.

  • @user-ur9xy6ow3i
    @user-ur9xy6ow3i Месяц назад +37

    Alec Baldwin has way more responsibility than the Armorer seeing how he hired her, was on scene during all this, and fired the freaking weapon himself. He was grossly negligent

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      I don't see how you can justify gross negligence here. It was not Baldwin's responsibility to make sure the gun was safe, that's the armorer and 1st assistant director's job. Now he did point the gun at people when he shouldn't have, and he pulled the trigger when he shouldn't have. But in New Mexico, you have to prove criminal negligence for involuntary manslaughter by lawful act. You have to show he knew what he was doing was dangerous, and he did it anyway with reckless disregard for the safety of others. He had every reason to believe that gun was not dangerous. I think that's going to be a problem for the prosecution.

    • @user-ur9xy6ow3i
      @user-ur9xy6ow3i Месяц назад +1

      @@stargazer7644 there's been evidence of live rounds being fired by the crew which included Baldwin. Alec Baldwin is a credited producer for this film which means he has deep involvement in the making of this film 'Rust'
      He allowed this to happen. Besides the firing of live rounds on a film set (something that should've never been allowed in the first place)
      There's been testimony of relaxed conditions and drinking amongst the crew. If he ran his production correctly and acted more responsibly none of this wouldve happened. He was negligent

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      @@user-ur9xy6ow3i I've seen the anonymous tabloid reports of that, but I have not heard any evidence or testimony submitted during the trial of that. Alec Baldwin has history as a gun control activist. Do you really believe he'd be plinking on set?

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 29 дней назад

      @@user-ur9xy6ow3i Alec Baldwin is a gun control activist. He isn't going to be plinking cans on set or allowing it. There was no testimony given during the trial of anything like this occurring. They were not able to determine how the live rounds got on the set..

    • @Jabler-
      @Jabler- 28 дней назад

      @@stargazer7644 If he hired the armorer, than her misconduct is his as well. He didn't follow safe hiring practices if he hired someone stupid enough to bring live rounds onto the set. You're gonna tell me he didn't know or hear of any live rounds ever being shot? Are they just carrying live rounds for fun?

  • @WyattsVlog
    @WyattsVlog Месяц назад +21

    Lock him up!!

  • @rls2348
    @rls2348 Месяц назад +4

    A potential juror does not have to be totally ignorant of the case, they must be able to presume the defendant innocent and listen to the facts presented in court to determine a verdict. If you waited until you found a jury never hearing about cases in your location some trials would never happen. The reporter could use an update on jury selection qualifications.

  • @birchsongsltd.6831
    @birchsongsltd.6831 Месяц назад +15

    Why a 24 year-old is in charge of armor on a movie set is beyond me and THAT is Baldwins liability. He (I assume) hired her.
    Her liability is (or should be) quite clear.

  • @bobthebear1246
    @bobthebear1246 28 дней назад +2

    Person A: Hannah Gutierrez, _Rust_ Armorer
    Person B: Alec Baldwin, _Rust_ lead actor and producer
    Person C: Halyna Hutchins, _Rust_ cinematographer
    Scenarios:
    ONE:
    Person A is not negligent +
    Person B is not negligent =
    Person C survives.
    TWO:
    Person A is negligent +
    Person B is not negligent =
    Person C survives.
    THREE:
    Person A is not negligent +
    Person B is negligent =
    Person C survives.
    FOUR:
    Person A is negligent +
    Person B is negligent =
    Person C dies.
    Therefore, because the ONLY scenario in which Person C dies is because both Person A and Person B were negligent, therefore Alec Baldwin MUST also be convicted of Involuntary Manslaughter.
    Literally nothing else makes logical sense here. I rest my case.

  • @Crashed131963
    @Crashed131963 26 дней назад +2

    As a gun instructor .
    It comes down to the person holding the gun to check the gun and where it is point before the trigger is pulled , even if you think the gun is loaded with blanks .

  • @ArchangelMichael.
    @ArchangelMichael. Месяц назад +11

    Why is the rust armorer being sentenced to prison? Why isn’t Alec Baldwin? Alec Baldwin was the freaking trigger man.

    • @usernamealreadytaken770
      @usernamealreadytaken770 Месяц назад +3

      Both of them should be in prison.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад +1

      Perhaps because she went to trial and was convicted and Baldwin's trial doesn't start until July? Why do these things need to be explained to you?

    • @ArchangelMichael.
      @ArchangelMichael. Месяц назад

      @@stargazer7644 nobody asked for your opinion bitch, off yourself

    • @carrietaylor6658
      @carrietaylor6658 24 дня назад

      ​@@stargazer7644Money talks, same as oj simpson

  • @mikebaird6788
    @mikebaird6788 Месяц назад +15

    Baldwin by no means was ever an a-list celebrity

    • @davidjones8043
      @davidjones8043 Месяц назад +2

      He was amazing in The Cat in the Hat, come on, man

    • @peggypeggy4137
      @peggypeggy4137 26 дней назад +1

      @@davidjones8043 My kid LOVED him in Thomas the Tank Engine❤

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 24 дня назад

      He's been in 97 movies and 38 tv shows. He's a writer, actor and producer whose movies have made over $7 billion. He's been nominated for Academy awards and Tony awards. He's won Emmy, Golden Globe and SAG awards. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he isn't A-list.

  • @mikebaird6788
    @mikebaird6788 Месяц назад +12

    On things like this everybody handling the gun the armor and even the person who is going to do the scene should check the gun there can never be enough people checking the gun to make sure that it's empty or has the blanks that are supposed to be in it

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 29 дней назад

      Nobody loads and unloads the gun except the armorer. The actors involved are supposed to be able to watch the armorer show the rounds are inert as she loads the gun.

  • @ANTZPound4Pound
    @ANTZPound4Pound Месяц назад +5

    _*At Lease Justice was Served! (With the way it's Constructed!🤦🏻‍♂️)
    Still no Closures for the Family! R.I.P*_
    *_Still To this Day, I cannot, for the life of me, Understand, 🤷🏻‍♂️"WHY WOULD THERE BE 'LIVE AMMUNITION' ON A MOVIE SET?!!!🤦🏻‍♂️_*

  • @atonaareyus
    @atonaareyus Месяц назад +2

    What a shame and only 18 months

  • @RSKLove
    @RSKLove Месяц назад +1

    Baldwin needs to be in prison.

  • @franklinj1038
    @franklinj1038 Месяц назад +2

    Alec has the 💲0J 💲card

  • @jvdixie
    @jvdixie Месяц назад +29

    Baldwin should get convicted too. He pulled the trigger so it’s his fault.

    • @TheSpawnycat
      @TheSpawnycat 24 дня назад +2

      It's not that simple.
      It was a film shoot. In the film industry, everyone has prescribed roles and responsibilities around use of firearm props. There was never even supposed to be live ammunition on the set. Baldwin was handed the gun by the assistant director, who then yelled "cold gun," telling everyone on set that the gun is safe to use. Was it that guy's fault? Or the propmaster who was supposed to check all firearms before each take? Or the director who told him to fire the gun directly at the camera for the scene?
      A lot of different people contributed to the situation that killed Hutchins, but the person with the responsibility to ensure everyone's safety by overseeing *all* aspects of firearm use on set is the armorer. The whole reason the film industry started requiring all film shoots involving guns to hire an armorer was Brandon Lee's accidental shooting death (back in 1993) by a gun that was supposed to be loaded with blanks. The job exists precisely to avoid these types of horrible tragedies!
      So yeah, I agree with the judge that Gutierrez-Reed had the primary responsibility here, and I am glad she got the maximum sentence. But the producers (including Baldwin) should bear some responsibility as well.

    • @jvdixie
      @jvdixie 20 дней назад

      He should have checked for himself if the gun was “cold”. Checking the firearm is the responsibility of the person about to fire it or even hold it. Baldwin pointed the gun and pulled the trigger. He can’t be more responsible.

  • @Papawforreal
    @Papawforreal Месяц назад +6

    And Baldwin will get off with no jail time

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      I don't know. He's getting the same judge that Hannah got. It depends on the jury.

  • @fauxque5057
    @fauxque5057 Месяц назад +16

    It means Baldwin should do 18 months

  • @lcomfort8683
    @lcomfort8683 Месяц назад +3

    I think there should have been much more imvestigation as to exactly where the live ammo came from, why it was there, who put it in the gun, , that person would be a murderer. And they need to come up with a fake gun incapable of firing bullets, instead of using real guns.

    • @HomeGypsy
      @HomeGypsy Месяц назад

      There was an investigation into where the live ammo came onto the set from and the the person who was responsible was sentenced yesterday.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      A gun that can't fire bullets generally can't fire blanks either. Unless someone fesses up, there's no way to ever know where the live ammo came from. We know exactly who put it in the gun. Gutierrez loaded it, failed to check it, and handed it to Baldwin. And no, that person is not a murderer. She is guilty of involuntary manslaughter by a lawful act, not murder.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 29 дней назад

      I don't think you understand what murder is. They were not able to determine where the rounds came from. They know exactly who put them in the gun. The Armorer did. You can use fake guns and put the gunfire in with CGI later. It costs more to do it this way. They traditionally use blanks which requires real guns. When Rust resumed filming, they switched to CGI.

  • @taztazzington736
    @taztazzington736 Месяц назад +3

    This shouldn’t even be a thing Baldwin assumes no responsibility. You would not suspect a fkn bullet being in a prop gun. Ever. That never happens. Someone had to intentionally sneak that bullet in there. Bc that’s just something like that just doesn’t happen. I feel bad for him that must of felt horrible.

    • @jakesmith9526
      @jakesmith9526 Месяц назад +1

      You would

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      He hasn't been tried yet.

    • @taztazzington736
      @taztazzington736 Месяц назад

      @@jakesmith9526 I’d suspect but guaranteed most of the world wouldn’t expect that and no way could I fault them for that. Someone did something shady guaranteed it.

    • @taztazzington736
      @taztazzington736 Месяц назад

      @@stargazer7644 yea not yet. I feel for him tho.

    • @NoOneUNo
      @NoOneUNo 29 дней назад

      It was a real gun, Alec Baldwin specifically wanted this real gun as his movie accessory, including color & finish. It was a real gun he was wielding around that he ordered for his movie role, safety concerns be damned. You reap what you sow. Gun safety is a real thing and sometimes is ignored by the ignorant

  • @Vikezupa
    @Vikezupa 24 дня назад

    1 - The company is responsible for hiring and assuring the employee is trained and competent. 2 - The company is responsible to reasonably review the employees performance. 3 - at least two employees did not report that the fire arms were being stored incorrectly. 4 - the Armours boss, who is required to double-check the weapon before it is deemed 'safe' did not do his job, and admitted that he didn't know much about guns. 5 - gun safety 101 - never EVER point a working gun at anyone and pull the trigger. No matter if it was deemed safe or not. The young lady is taking the fall for Baldwin and the company. Period. I don't like her attitude or the possible drug use either. That's irrelevant. The facts say she is a patsy pure and simple.

  • @harrylessinger5769
    @harrylessinger5769 Месяц назад +1

    I heard Baldwin’s trial will be heard by the same judge, not a different one.

  • @julesmpc1314
    @julesmpc1314 28 дней назад

    She holds the least blame here...a bunch of high experienced powerful older dudes putting all the blame on her is ridiculous...shame on the DAs

  • @adelaidemarie
    @adelaidemarie 27 дней назад

    Why did that judge insinuate what she did was with purpose?

  • @crazytimes9989
    @crazytimes9989 Месяц назад

    He will get a slap on the hand.

  • @carrietaylor6658
    @carrietaylor6658 24 дня назад

    BALDWIN NEEDS JAIL ALSO

  • @barbarahering484
    @barbarahering484 Месяц назад +1

    A life was taken and 18 month seems not very much ???

    • @jakesmith9526
      @jakesmith9526 Месяц назад

      It's not much time for Gross negligence and being irresponsible, is it. She should be happy that's all the time she got. Her and Baldwin, both show no remorse about the girls death.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      That's the law for involuntary manslaughter by lawful act.

  • @StoningXStephen
    @StoningXStephen Месяц назад +2

    Baldwin is also guilty. He did not personally clear the weapon before use which is common practice on film sets. This was a tragedy that never should happen.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      Actors are not allowed to clear weapons. That isn't common on ANY film set. That's the armorer's job. Baldwin should have had the armorer check the rounds and load the gun in his presence. THAT's common on a film set.

  • @jonathanbellows113
    @jonathanbellows113 Месяц назад +2

    She messed up she didn’t take her job seriously and it caught her.

  • @michaeldaltonsr8954
    @michaeldaltonsr8954 Месяц назад

    There was a huge, gaping legal hole to induce Not Guilty Beyond a Reasonable Doubt, IMO. Chain of custody of weapon used was legally WEAK.( H.G. was not on set/ Baldwin sent another person to retreive weapon/Balwin failed to personally check weapon/ Baldwin denied pulling trigger, yet, his finger clearly shown on trigger, etc. Yet, by trouncing H.G., it magically shifts blame away from A.B. Shell-game legal trick, IMO.)

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      Chain of custody of weapon? What? The armorer loaded it, didn't check it, handed it to Baldwin who didn't ask for it to be checked. What are you going on about?

  • @jakesmith9526
    @jakesmith9526 Месяц назад +5

    Mr. Baldwin pulled the trigger and pointed the weapon. He's just as guilty as the armorer. They're both at fault. That's one of the big problems with these people nowadays. They all place the blame on someone else and refuse to accept responsibility for their mistakes. You know,cbe adults and say, yes I was wrong, I made a mistake. I'll take total responsibility for my actions and pay the penalty for my actions. I find myself surrounded by small children, who are trapped in adult Bodies like this woman and Mr. Baldwin, on a regular basis. What's happened to people acting like adults in our country. It's appalling, everyone thinks they're entitled that you owe them something for some reason and everyone plays the blame game nowadays. It's probably only going to get worse as time progresses in our country. I've noticed that most people, usually spend a lot of time, judging others and casting stones. But very few reflect upon themselves and their bad behavior. You can always find a reason for your bad behavior. What a bunch of small children that are supposed to be adults, alive in our current society in the United States, that we have today.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 24 дня назад

      When you have someone whose specific job is gun safety on the set, and who was so criminally negligent in that job, it's going to be pretty hard to put that on Baldwin.

  • @janisg7409
    @janisg7409 Месяц назад

    DONT PUT TRUMP INTO THIS

  • @moirapettifr7127
    @moirapettifr7127 29 дней назад

    Maybe Alec Baldwin could go live in Spain since that's where his wife is from.

  • @HarryHov
    @HarryHov Месяц назад

    Boooo lock up alec baldwin

  • @Layove803
    @Layove803 Месяц назад +1

    This was an accident the sentence is fair

    • @fluteloop6737
      @fluteloop6737 Месяц назад

      So they say

    • @HowardHarper-ct9mx
      @HowardHarper-ct9mx Месяц назад +1

      If it was an accident,I don't think nobody should get sentenced to prison. Nobody was sent to prison when Brandon Lee was shot and killed on the movie set of The Crow.

  • @propblast82nd
    @propblast82nd Месяц назад +1

    Baldwin aims and fires the gun disregarding every firearm safety protocol 😱

  • @taztazzington736
    @taztazzington736 Месяц назад

    Leave those guys alone. If someone fr put that in their go after them. But charging Alec Baldwin is a joke he wouldn’t have know that was in there. Thinking it’s a prop gun. Whoever gave him that gun shoulda double checked bc someone had to sneak that bullet in there or something. That just doesn’t happen.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      You really need to learn what the word "prop" means. It WAS a prop gun. That doesn't mean it wasn't a real gun.

    • @taztazzington736
      @taztazzington736 Месяц назад

      @@stargazer7644 who the hell would use a real gun in a movie? If professionals are using real weapons I’d be shook.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      @@taztazzington736 Because you have to use a real gun to shoot blanks. Blanks are identical to real cartridges, they just don't have a projectile. They fire burning powder out the barrel. Prop guns can be real guns, or they can be replica guns. If you're shooting blanks on set, they're real guns. If you're hitting someone in the head with one or throwing it on the ground it's likely a replica gun.

  • @andrewsnyder9262
    @andrewsnyder9262 Месяц назад +2

    Alec pulled the trigger. This women was just reckless but it’s not illegal to leave live rounds in a gun. It’s illegal to point a gun with live rounds at someone and pull the trigger. I think our legal system is grasping at straws as of late.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      I don't think you have any understanding of what happened here. When your job as armorer is to ensure gun safety on a movie set, and you fail to ensure rounds loaded into the gun are inert, and someone is killed, you're guilty of criminal negligence. You've done something that you know is dangerous with reckless disregard for the safety of others. That IS illegal. When you do that and someone is killed, that's involuntary manslaughter. It's people who can't be bothered to find out even the basics of what they're talking about before publicly spounting an opinion about it that is the real problem.

    • @andrewsnyder9262
      @andrewsnyder9262 Месяц назад

      @@stargazer7644 sure if you did something like that in your own home or in private but in this case it was failed company policy. She did not leave rounds in the gun with any ill intentions. This should not be illegal. Maybe if we had laws that govern how guns are used for business and she knowingly violated one of such rules, I would understand. In what world do we say that we can prosecute people who fail to their jobs appropriately while on the clock unless they knew that their actions or inactions could lead to serious injury? An example of this would be her allowing the loaded gun to go to set knowing that it has live rounds and will likely harm someone. Do we really think this was the case here? Even when a doctor messes up and kills someone, they only have to pay out insurance. We don’t hold every doctor that makes a mistake to a criminal standard. We are setting a nasty precedent here and I truly believe they overstepped. From now on if anyone grabs a gun in sight and shoots someone with it without verifying rounds, we will hold the person who loaded the gun liable for criminal manslaughter. Does this make any sense to you?

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      @@andrewsnyder9262 You don't seem to understand what negligence is. She was responsible for making sure there were no live rounds, and she intentionally and recklessly didn't do it. That is illegal. There's screwing up at work, and there's negligence, and there's criminal negligence. There's a range here. You absolutely could hold a doctor to a criminal negligence standard. If a doctor performed surgery while drunk and the patient died, you can be sure criminal negligence is going to be applied. Don't you see how that's different from a doctor simply making a mistake? You have to know what you're doing is dangerous, and you have to show willful reckess disregard for someone's safety. Pretty much anyone you ask would agree operating on someone while drunk meets both of those tests. You don't hear about it happening with doctors making mistakes because it doesn't often rise to the level of being criminal negligence thankfully.

    • @andrewsnyder9262
      @andrewsnyder9262 Месяц назад

      @@stargazer7644 you are reaching for the ole straw man here it seems. I am well aware of what negligence is and there is a difference between simply not checking the gun as required by the job duties and intentionally avoiding checking the gun while knowing someone may be harmed by that lack of action. She could have been tied with other duties and just didn’t get to it or assumed that everything was ok and was operating under the pretense that the gun was not loaded with live rounds. Maybe there was a communication breakdown and she wasn’t able to properly carry out her duties. Nobody knows for certain how it played out. Everyone went in cya mode. The point I’m making is that the act alone of not checking the gun which is part of a job duty while working for a private company is not in and of itself the definition of negligence. This is where the law is overstepping. If they could prove that she did it knowing that the gun was loaded this would be a whole different case but this turned out to be a mistake made on the job with no intentions of harming anyone.
      I never mentioned anything of a doctor performing duties while impaired. Obviously we all know that is clear cut criminal negligence if something goes awry. I’m referring to a legitimate mistake and typically one that patients sign off on before any operation is performed.
      And back to Alec; the act itself of pointing a gun at someone and killing them is 100% illegal. Not the act of not checking a gun for safety. There is no such law that governs that. Again I will maintain my position that they overstepped and set a nasty precedent with this case. Let’s prosecute all the people who made mistakes in their jobs that potentially led to unsafe conditions for others. We all know dam well that the legal system doesn’t work that way unless you can prove they did it knowing someone could get hurt. They didn’t prove that here.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      @@andrewsnyder9262 "She could have been tied with other duties and just didn’t get to it" Shooting had been stopped all morning due to the film crew walking off the job. They established there wasn't anything else for her to do. And if there had been, then Baldwin wouldn't have gotten his gun. Only Hannah handled Baldwin's guns. I don't know what you're talking about communication breakdowns. She loaded the gun. What she didn't do was check the dummies as she was required to do, and someone died because of it. What do you mean nobody knows for certain? The 4 people involved and who witnessed it testified as to what they happened.
      You mentioned "We don’t hold every doctor that makes a mistake to a criminal standard." and wanted to know why. And I explained to you why with an example.
      Did you even watch the trial? Obviously not. So why are you even talking about it?
      "the act itself of pointing a gun at someone and killing them is 100% illegal." No, obviously it isn't. People shoot and kill people all the time and aren't arrested for it. Cops. Homeowners. Soldiers.
      Since you can't make any logical arguments, have no reading comprehension, and obviously don't have a clue what happened in the trial beyond the headlines, I'm done here.

  • @shodopoet
    @shodopoet Месяц назад +1

    She had one job

  • @headreddedstepchild6177
    @headreddedstepchild6177 Месяц назад +1

    What happened to treating every gun as if its loaded, and only point in a safe direction? He knows so much about guns, and he knew those common rules, so why was he pointing a gun at her, a cinematographer, in the first place, to intimidate her?

  • @Solo-696
    @Solo-696 Месяц назад

    He shouldn’t be in trouble for that. If he didn’t shoot it at that time, when he was practicing, then he would’ve shot his costar while the film was rolling

    • @jakesmith9526
      @jakesmith9526 Месяц назад

      You never point a weapon at anyone, no matter what, in the first place, and it's your responsibility to look in the chamber and check the weapon while handling it. Just as soon as it's in your possession. That's basic gun safety 101. I bet you don't own any weapons, ever even fired one or have any clue about how to load it unload one or even how to check the chamber of one to see if it's empty or not, do you. You're probably va democrat too,vI bet and want all guns taken away from our countries, citizens, I bet. It's folks like you that make our government into the tyrant's and corrupt politicians that want absolute total power over our lives. If we get invaded by a foreign power, which we probably will sometime soon. You'll wish that you had one and knew how to use one to try to defend yourself and loved ones and property.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      Maybe you should find out what the scene actually was before commenting.

  • @user-hs6ie3ly4q
    @user-hs6ie3ly4q Месяц назад

    This is like arresting the bartender when you get pulled over for drunk driving

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад +1

      No, this is like arresting the person whose job it is to guarantee the safe use of firearms on a movie set whose criminally negligent actions resulted in a death and serious bodily injury.

  • @user-hs6ie3ly4q
    @user-hs6ie3ly4q Месяц назад +3

    A true advocate of gun safety would accept responsibility for his actions but this is Alec Baldwin so I’m sure it’s Trumps fault

  • @eiforget
    @eiforget Месяц назад +4

    This woman comes off as emotionless, unrepentant and distances herself from any accountability…her behavior and attitude borders on sociopathic.

  • @AuroraLakes
    @AuroraLakes 29 дней назад

    I think the correct person is being held accountable. She had one job, and failed in the worst way any of us could, when it ends in someone losing their life.
    No matter your feelings about Alec, he is an actor, not a weapons expert.

  • @backwoodscharlie8483
    @backwoodscharlie8483 Месяц назад +3

    In my opinion this verdict means nothing to the baldwin trial. They will stack the deck of jurors with women.They will feel sorry for Alec.And we love him and he will be found not guilty.

  • @HarryHov
    @HarryHov Месяц назад

    Alec is a murderer….

  • @dennybranham3242
    @dennybranham3242 Месяц назад

    Father, I ask that you please help provide the truth for who’s responsible for the live rounds being used.. Father, I ask that you please bring healing for family and friends.. Please talk to them and bring guidance into their lives with your Word.. In Jesus name, I pray.. Amen!!!

  • @Gary-lz5eb
    @Gary-lz5eb 28 дней назад

    All bald wins fault

  • @minidigger1000
    @minidigger1000 28 дней назад

    This womans job was to make the gun safe ,she failed in this, Alec can not be held accountable for that in his hands he thought the gun was good

  • @robschannel4512
    @robschannel4512 Месяц назад

    Baldwin will get off. They have there scapegoat.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад

      You might need to lookup the definition of a scapegoat.

  • @TheUAProdigy
    @TheUAProdigy Месяц назад +2

    I never realized that you people hate Alec Baldwin so much because he made fun of trump. Makes so much sense. LOL

  • @user-of9jx3dc1r
    @user-of9jx3dc1r Месяц назад

    This is what happen when a liberal women is the armourer this isnt a anime.

  • @karabooker8184
    @karabooker8184 Месяц назад

    i hope Alec gets life in prison

  • @calpauly310
    @calpauly310 Месяц назад

    Yay! Maybe now, Alec Baldwin can/will go free. Just kidding... because it seems the news media here want him free.

  • @amargacanica1042
    @amargacanica1042 Месяц назад

    Wow! She is taking the fall for Baldwin!! He is getting away with it !

  • @ReloadedGlock
    @ReloadedGlock 29 дней назад

    Hard to believe they are trying to convict an actor for playing with a prop gun. No actor in their right mind would ever expect a live round to be on the set! How dare these idiot prosecutors accuse him of anything, for pulling a trigger of a prop gun. Prosecutors are full of 💩💩💩💯

  • @HowardHarper-ct9mx
    @HowardHarper-ct9mx Месяц назад +1

    I dont think anybody should be charged in this case. It was an accident and not intentionally done. My question is why didn't anybody get charged when Brandon Lee was killed on the movie set making of The Crow?

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Месяц назад +1

      Because the laws in North Carolina are different from New Mexico. Nobody got charged in Brandon Lee's case because North Carolina's requirements for criminal negligence were not met. That isn't the case here. The Armorer in New Mexico was found to be criminally negligent because she knew what she was doing was dangerous and she showed reckless disregard for the safety of others by not checking the dummy rounds as she was responsible to do when she loaded the gun. Someone died because of it, so she's guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

    • @HowardHarper-ct9mx
      @HowardHarper-ct9mx 29 дней назад

      Thank you, I wasn't aware of that.