Our orisha don't have these types of king and judges role because they're orisha of occupations not like a government... You're mistaking their roles when they descended to earth as their roles as orisha...
What... Sango is not the king of the orisha... He's one of them... He was a king before he ascended... There's no king of the orisha because that would belong to olorun... If you want to say the senior, that would be obatala or odua or oduduwa or orunmila... I think you're adding western bias and seeing him as the king because he uses thunder, we don't get thunderstorms here so it's not that big of a deal to us...
Right on❤ You are speaking facts and especially when you said thunderstorms don't happen over here so it's not really a big deal, you had me cracking up with that, that was so funny and clever.
The lightening is more of a tool to bring justicebajd punish wrong my doers rather than having actual thunderstorms lol. And it's a BIG DEAL because no one takes swearing truth in his name lightly especially when brought before his shrine.
@@atobiteadedunjoye1207 when I say it's not a big deal, I meant in his iconography... He's more known for fire than lightning... They made it look like he was Zeus and hardly mentioned fire... The lightning was used for swearing because of how rare it was, so if you lie and lightning hits you, everyone would know why... But sango is known for fire... Dude, you're yoruba and you don't know this??? I think you need to defend this channel or just be a contrarian as overwhelmed your yoruba pride to at least demand that an history channel does a basic research on our culture rather than this obviously rushed work... If you ask any yoruba person on the street what they know sango for, they would mostly say fire and if you're a yoruba person who lives in Nigeria, you would know that... Stop trying to justify this obvious westernization of our culture... I love the west and it's culture (which is why I won't insult their culture this way) but culture is what makes a tribe and west Africa as so many beautiful cultures, I don't want a lazy westerner looking for only views rather than being truly interested in it, to bastardize our culture and turn it into an imitation of the Greek pantheon out of laziness... Please stop encouraging this by stretching the truth and purposely misinterpreting my point... And if you haven't lived in Nigeria for most of your life, maybe you should listen to an actual Nigerian but if you have, come on, be true to yourself, what he said was obvious BS and you know sango is known for fire not lightning... Swear by sango's thunder...
👏👏 Alright! Love it! Now that's what I like to see complete story of 9 Powerful Orishas from Yoruba Mythology. They should remember their duty Yoruba Mythology in history.
Don't put s in orisha... That's like putting s in furniture... My goodness, I don't like hitting people for their pronunciation but my goodness, give me strength...
I don't see how u can pronounce that word without the s I've tried and no matter what way I do the s is still there when u are and English speaker s cannot be silent our grammar does not allow it
@@Giwa-e3p you mumu... I meant don't pluralize it... It's not orishas... I thought I made it clear by mentioning furniture, there's no such thing as furnitures... I thought it would be obvious by me spelling orisha without a C... I don't know where you even found the C from since I never mentioned C... Maybe calm down and read the comment before commenting blindly... Jumping on my perceived mistake rather than this video's myriads of mistakes is just hypocritical of you... At least you're Yoruba and not a westerner trying to form knowledge with me...
@@johnnycrown5097 carribean people pronounce it as oricha with C instead of S and I thought you're one, I never saw your comment about "furniture" so there's no way I was going to know what you're talking about, you could've just said this without the insult but whatever rocks your world 🤡🤡🤡
Stop with this king of the orisha and focus on thunder, please... It's pissing me off... For anyone to think Sango is remembered for his thunder and not his fire especially after mentioning he dances and the greatest Sango dance is with fire, whereby the fancy eats and spots out fire...
@@masonsnouffer4258 no... Olodunmare is his name and olorun is his title... Yorubas are now more Christians than any Christian you can think of in the west so they turned the name into meaning the Christian God so that's where the trinity comes from... But olorun and olodunmare is the same entity, not a trinity in one or anything like that... He even has a brother called olokun, God of the sea who can be both female and male (it was from the confusion of the ikoyis and the main yoruba tribe, long story so they just decided to make him both)... And olfi isn't even a yoruba word... If two consonants are joined that way, there as to be an n in it... Like nla... That's how you know if it's yoruba or not... I think you're trying to say olofin as in olofin aiye which is just like saying the commander in chief, you know, that type of title... Olofin is a title...
Sigh... I should start a RUclips channel explaining yoruba and African lore... This is actually fun and we need it... Westerners come to our culture with a need to either proof theirs is better or ours is better and the people who just love history and lore for it sake love it so much that they're doing other stuffs... This video is what you get when you are trying to fit in another culture's pantheon into the western sense... In the yoruba land, the chiefs are as powerful as the king, see it like congress and the senate in America... The six chiefs (one is the mother of the market called the iyalode) can oust an entire royal family and there are always three royal families that the kings are chosen from, but it seems like is just one because well, incumbent families get to clear the way for their sons easily but in the modern age, they have turned it into a rotation...
Why you talk about Brazil get just Candomble and Umbanda? In the South states, Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina we've a strong afro-brazilian religion, named Batuque. Looking for the South!
Teachings of the orisha??? Teachings??? That's like saying according to the teachings of a Greek god... The orisha didn't teach anything, education wasn't a major thing for us... Seriously, where are you getting your source from???
😮You need to do a lot more research. If you're going to be talking about the orishes, chango is not a king He is the holder of lightning thunder. All. Types of weapons. Ah, yes, I think you need to gather your facts a lot better.
@seismicvertigo345 hmm perhaps there's a confusion. There's the historical person and then there's the orisha. I can't speak on Isese Lagba, but in Cuban Regla de Osha, Chango is king of the religion of la Regla de osha/santeria. and Obatala is king of the world, obanlaye, a kingship that even Chango bows to. But the idea that Chango is not a king is way odd, as he's most famous FOR being a king. Chango, Ochun, Yemaya, Obatala and most other orisha are kings and queens aside from a few that don't wear a crown. Again, speaking from the Lucumi religious stand point not a historical one where even still Shango was indeed the 4th Alaafin of Oyo and Obatala was King of Ile Ife, Oshun Queen of Osogbo, etc... So maybe that's where confusion is. Hope this helps.
@@elconquistador6468 We are saying the same thing. Shango does in fact stongly connote kingship, and I assume that is the reason for the massive error in this video, but what the video really messes up is in the claim that Shango is the absolute king of all orisha, while in fact he is just one of the orisha, not even as senior as Orunmila, or Obatala, and those two are not as senior as Olodumare(Olorun)
@@elconquistador6468 I am happy to read what you shared honestly. It seems the Cuban version is still in tact. So Shango is a king, yes, but not that of all the Orishas. Also worth noting is that Shango is the God of Fire really and all the pervasiveness of being the God of such a fierce element goes with that; now, lightning and thunder are additional accessories to the Fire, and for those whose primary orisha is shango, the fact that he is/was a King will definitely be of importance to them. Shango is both a global and regional Orisha among the Yoruba(and even related) people and the details that go beyond Fire, like King status will feature much more prominently for those who are his primary followers. So, yes, Shango is a King, but not the King of Orisha
While Sango is prominent, I don't believe the figure is the King and Judge of all other Gods at all. Olorun would much better fit that position, Olorun meaning King in Heaven.
Yo yo! Do you have a place where you teach, like a channel or share knowledge abure? Olorun olo is owner orun is heaven king od heaven is obá orun. Obatala is the judge as he is Ibikejí Olodumare (gods deputy) and alabalashe, one who wields the scepter (of authority). When obatala decrees something it is as if Olofin himself has decreed it. This is such because Olofin gave obatala this authority, just as olodmare gave ogun the authority to take life. Ki olorun nagbe o
So xangô or Sango was king in oyo, Ogum was king in Ifé, Oxossi or Ọ̀ṣọ́ọ̀sì, was king in Ketu, Oxala or Obatala was king in Ilê Ifé as Odudua as well. ALL ORIXÁS WAS KING IN THAT EARTH, Oxalá and Odudua its the father of all them !
It's actually yo as in hey yo, ru as in do, ba as in bar with a question mark stress... The one that pisses me off is how westerners pronounce Lagos as lah goes instead of lay gos as in gun...
@@johnnycrown5097 You are absolutely wrong. This is why our language has the lettering with tonal marks to let you know you pulled this stuff from straight out your as*. The u letter in Yorùbá only has one pronounciation and that is determined by our convention and confirmed by out alphabets, and that sound is "oo". The 'o' pronunciation you are trying to give it likely comes from groups to the east of us who don't know how to say our name, and it sounds annoying really and should not be propagated
There's misinformation in the video. There are people "correcting" the misinformation in the comments...which is also misinformation 🫠😂 Ay Obatala didé!
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Our orisha don't have these types of king and judges role because they're orisha of occupations not like a government... You're mistaking their roles when they descended to earth as their roles as orisha...
What... Sango is not the king of the orisha... He's one of them... He was a king before he ascended... There's no king of the orisha because that would belong to olorun... If you want to say the senior, that would be obatala or odua or oduduwa or orunmila... I think you're adding western bias and seeing him as the king because he uses thunder, we don't get thunderstorms here so it's not that big of a deal to us...
He's the fourth king of the Oyo empire in Nigeria.
@@smdanny1 yup... He ascended into deity status which is why this guy is mistaking it as him being the king of the orisha...
Right on❤ You are speaking facts and especially when you said thunderstorms don't happen over here so it's not really a big deal, you had me cracking up with that, that was so funny and clever.
The lightening is more of a tool to bring justicebajd punish wrong my doers rather than having actual thunderstorms lol. And it's a BIG DEAL because no one takes swearing truth in his name lightly especially when brought before his shrine.
@@atobiteadedunjoye1207 when I say it's not a big deal, I meant in his iconography... He's more known for fire than lightning... They made it look like he was Zeus and hardly mentioned fire... The lightning was used for swearing because of how rare it was, so if you lie and lightning hits you, everyone would know why... But sango is known for fire...
Dude, you're yoruba and you don't know this??? I think you need to defend this channel or just be a contrarian as overwhelmed your yoruba pride to at least demand that an history channel does a basic research on our culture rather than this obviously rushed work...
If you ask any yoruba person on the street what they know sango for, they would mostly say fire and if you're a yoruba person who lives in Nigeria, you would know that...
Stop trying to justify this obvious westernization of our culture... I love the west and it's culture (which is why I won't insult their culture this way) but culture is what makes a tribe and west Africa as so many beautiful cultures, I don't want a lazy westerner looking for only views rather than being truly interested in it, to bastardize our culture and turn it into an imitation of the Greek pantheon out of laziness... Please stop encouraging this by stretching the truth and purposely misinterpreting my point...
And if you haven't lived in Nigeria for most of your life, maybe you should listen to an actual Nigerian but if you have, come on, be true to yourself, what he said was obvious BS and you know sango is known for fire not lightning... Swear by sango's thunder...
Thank you for introducing this information, may it spark a flame that encourages others so seek further for themselves.
So telling us you didn't actually properly research yoruba mythology without telling us you didn't actually properly research yoruba mythology.
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Where do you recommend I reasearch then?
Do you know what RUclips channels i can learn from
I am a Babalawo, I will recommend to you an amazing book: The Yoruba Spiritual Training Manual by Baba M. Perez
yaai all episode 9 Powerful Orishas from Yoruba Mythology compilation yaai i love that brother father.
Could you do videos about Türkic mythology
Thanks for the information
This is lovely.
👏👏 Alright! Love it! Now that's what I like to see complete story of 9 Powerful Orishas from Yoruba Mythology. They should remember their duty Yoruba Mythology in history.
i dont think you studied hard enough for this 😭😭 pls be careful
The king of the gods is olodumare
Thank you very much
Petition to start asking for journey to the west series everyday day 1
Don't put s in orisha... That's like putting s in furniture... My goodness, I don't like hitting people for their pronunciation but my goodness, give me strength...
I don't see how u can pronounce that word without the s I've tried and no matter what way I do the s is still there when u are and English speaker s cannot be silent our grammar does not allow it
BS... Orisha is the correct pronunciation, there's no C in Yoruba alphabetic system
@@Giwa-e3p you mumu... I meant don't pluralize it... It's not orishas... I thought I made it clear by mentioning furniture, there's no such thing as furnitures... I thought it would be obvious by me spelling orisha without a C... I don't know where you even found the C from since I never mentioned C... Maybe calm down and read the comment before commenting blindly... Jumping on my perceived mistake rather than this video's myriads of mistakes is just hypocritical of you... At least you're Yoruba and not a westerner trying to form knowledge with me...
@@johnnycrown5097 carribean people pronounce it as oricha with C instead of S and I thought you're one, I never saw your comment about "furniture" so there's no way I was going to know what you're talking about, you could've just said this without the insult but whatever rocks your world 🤡🤡🤡
Stop with this king of the orisha and focus on thunder, please... It's pissing me off... For anyone to think Sango is remembered for his thunder and not his fire especially after mentioning he dances and the greatest Sango dance is with fire, whereby the fancy eats and spots out fire...
so you where there? You know him? You seen it happen?
@@Sheepdog1314 Clowndog1314 ladies and gentlemen
This video maybe inaccurate in some areas but it is well made I love the art 😊
Is this a great first video about the orisha?
That is crazy that Greek mythology came from this
Our Orisa doesn't call Sango king
What about Olorun, olidunare, and Olfi?!
You mean olodunmare who is also olorun and who is olfi??? Please stop mistaking Brazilian orisha with yoruba orisha...
@@johnnycrown5097, yes. They're, like, 3 different aspects of the same god, right.
@@masonsnouffer4258 no... Olodunmare is his name and olorun is his title... Yorubas are now more Christians than any Christian you can think of in the west so they turned the name into meaning the Christian God so that's where the trinity comes from...
But olorun and olodunmare is the same entity, not a trinity in one or anything like that... He even has a brother called olokun, God of the sea who can be both female and male (it was from the confusion of the ikoyis and the main yoruba tribe, long story so they just decided to make him both)...
And olfi isn't even a yoruba word... If two consonants are joined that way, there as to be an n in it... Like nla... That's how you know if it's yoruba or not... I think you're trying to say olofin as in olofin aiye which is just like saying the commander in chief, you know, that type of title... Olofin is a title...
Sigh... I should start a RUclips channel explaining yoruba and African lore... This is actually fun and we need it... Westerners come to our culture with a need to either proof theirs is better or ours is better and the people who just love history and lore for it sake love it so much that they're doing other stuffs... This video is what you get when you are trying to fit in another culture's pantheon into the western sense... In the yoruba land, the chiefs are as powerful as the king, see it like congress and the senate in America... The six chiefs (one is the mother of the market called the iyalode) can oust an entire royal family and there are always three royal families that the kings are chosen from, but it seems like is just one because well, incumbent families get to clear the way for their sons easily but in the modern age, they have turned it into a rotation...
@@johnnycrown5097, ok, I know you're trying, but I understood little to none of that... Sorry.😟
Why you talk about Brazil get just Candomble and Umbanda? In the South states, Rio Grande do Sul and Santa Catarina we've a strong afro-brazilian religion, named Batuque. Looking for the South!
Teachings of the orisha??? Teachings??? That's like saying according to the teachings of a Greek god... The orisha didn't teach anything, education wasn't a major thing for us... Seriously, where are you getting your source from???
with all your complaining, why are you still here?
@@Sheepdog1314how else will the content creator improve his craft if he can’t be critiqued by the bearers of the heritage he’s trying to talk about ?
@@michellekaydright crituque isn't a bad think when you are wrong or make a mistake
@@giorgosst4649 my point exactly.
More great powerful being of the olds gods
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Greek mythology has same stories and figures. Someone made a copy
😮You need to do a lot more research. If you're going to be talking about the orishes, chango is not a king He is the holder of lightning thunder. All. Types of weapons. Ah, yes, I think you need to gather your facts a lot better.
Chango IS a king orisha. It's why a iyawo wears a crown while in the throne when presented to the public.
@@elconquistador6468 Perhaps a king of something, but certainly not the king of all Orisha -- that is just a lie
@seismicvertigo345 hmm perhaps there's a confusion. There's the historical person and then there's the orisha.
I can't speak on Isese Lagba, but in Cuban Regla de Osha, Chango is king of the religion of la Regla de osha/santeria. and Obatala is king of the world, obanlaye, a kingship that even Chango bows to. But the idea that Chango is not a king is way odd, as he's most famous FOR being a king.
Chango, Ochun, Yemaya, Obatala and most other orisha are kings and queens aside from a few that don't wear a crown.
Again, speaking from the Lucumi religious stand point not a historical one where even still Shango was indeed the 4th Alaafin of Oyo and Obatala was King of Ile Ife, Oshun Queen of Osogbo, etc... So maybe that's where confusion is. Hope this helps.
@@elconquistador6468 We are saying the same thing. Shango does in fact stongly connote kingship, and I assume that is the reason for the massive error in this video, but what the video really messes up is in the claim that Shango is the absolute king of all orisha, while in fact he is just one of the orisha, not even as senior as Orunmila, or Obatala, and those two are not as senior as Olodumare(Olorun)
@@elconquistador6468 I am happy to read what you shared honestly. It seems the Cuban version is still in tact. So Shango is a king, yes, but not that of all the Orishas. Also worth noting is that Shango is the God of Fire really and all the pervasiveness of being the God of such a fierce element goes with that; now, lightning and thunder are additional accessories to the Fire, and for those whose primary orisha is shango, the fact that he is/was a King will definitely be of importance to them. Shango is both a global and regional Orisha among the Yoruba(and even related) people and the details that go beyond Fire, like King status will feature much more prominently for those who are his primary followers. So, yes, Shango is a King, but not the King of Orisha
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While Sango is prominent, I don't believe the figure is the King and Judge of all other Gods at all. Olorun would much better fit that position, Olorun meaning King in Heaven.
Yo yo! Do you have a place where you teach, like a channel or share knowledge abure?
Olorun olo is owner orun is heaven king od heaven is obá orun. Obatala is the judge as he is Ibikejí Olodumare (gods deputy) and alabalashe, one who wields the scepter (of authority). When obatala decrees something it is as if Olofin himself has decreed it. This is such because Olofin gave obatala this authority, just as olodmare gave ogun the authority to take life.
Ki olorun nagbe o
Shango is not the king of the ORISHAS
So xangô or Sango was king in oyo, Ogum was king in Ifé, Oxossi or Ọ̀ṣọ́ọ̀sì, was king in Ketu, Oxala or Obatala was king in Ilê Ifé as Odudua as well. ALL ORIXÁS WAS KING IN THAT EARTH, Oxalá and Odudua its the father of all them !
All spiritual ancestors were from Africa correct
A Nigerian myth ❤️❤️
There is nothing Nigerian about this
Poorly researched with extremely mispronounced names.
I read “powerful orgasms” at first glance. Looking forward to watching the video now that I know that’s not what it said.
It is pronounced as Ye-mo-ja not Ye-ma-ya.
Yemoja = That is in Brazil. Yemayá is fine to say. She is both.
Just like OBATALÁ and Oshanlá. Just different places with different names but same Orisha. Ashé🤍
You must do better. People will watch this and take it on face value.
U know these people don't really know
It's pronounced - Your -ro-ba not you-ru-ba despite it's spelling.
It's actually yo as in hey yo, ru as in do, ba as in bar with a question mark stress... The one that pisses me off is how westerners pronounce Lagos as lah goes instead of lay gos as in gun...
@@johnnycrown5097 You are absolutely wrong. This is why our language has the lettering with tonal marks to let you know you pulled this stuff from straight out your as*. The u letter in Yorùbá only has one pronounciation and that is determined by our convention and confirmed by out alphabets, and that sound is "oo". The 'o' pronunciation you are trying to give it likely comes from groups to the east of us who don't know how to say our name, and it sounds annoying really and should not be propagated
There's misinformation in the video. There are people "correcting" the misinformation in the comments...which is also misinformation 🫠😂
Ay Obatala didé!
Boy he is messing up the names big time . 😂