Hey, great video. I'm currently using a 2020 edition Acer Predator Triton 300 SE for all my needs (general, university-level music prod, gaming) and now, with several parts replaced and an unreliable replacement of a screen I am looking to Apple for my hopefully soon-to-be professional work in film music scoring/production. I'm able to afford the M3 Pro but I want a future-proof computer and now that only refurbished M2s are available, do you think it's wise to go for the M3 or go for an M2 Pro (BTW I use Reaper and will likely soon use ProTools alongside)?
@@kurboe283 Hey Kurboe, thanks for the comment. You have a pretty good question right there. Since you are thinking about working in orchestrations with larger sessions using a laptop, I'd say that right now a M3 Macbook Pro would be a great option to use with Reaper/PT making sure to get higher RAM specs like 32/64GB. Since you are not running on a tight budget, I would probably wait until the release of the portable M4 laptops in the next few months. If you mind a desktop, I'd be waiting until mid-2025 for the redesigned M4 Mac Studio/Mac mini, that's what I'll be doing!
I am using an upgraded 2010 Mac Pro, with 2 ssd running Mohave as it is the last OS Apple supported for this computer. Now I'm even getting messages from Spotify that my system is outdated.. Time to upgrade. Looking at the Mac Mini M2
Hey Olí so I have an Antelope Discrete 8 Synergy Core paired with a Scarlett 18i20 I’m running it with Studio One 4. I have plug ins that won’t longer work with my current system and my system lags because of all the plug ins I use especially when I playback. I will be upgrading to Studio One 7. I want a new Mac no laptop it will be desktop or the pro but I don’t want to over spend if I don’t have to. What do you recommend? I don’t do a lot of tracks right now the most I run is about 20 tracks maybe later down the road I’ll get into the 50 tracks but not right now I run a small shop but I do want good reliability and fast operating system that won’t let me down when using my favorite plug ins. I run a full drum track that takes anywhere from 10-12 tracks, vocals, bass, guitar, accordion and 2 return channels for my summing mixer. I’ll be mixing and mastering. Please help 🙏🏽 thanks! Hope to hear from you!
Sitting here going from an i9 20-core intel PC with 32gb of ram to the basic M2 Mac mini with 8gb Ram. Runs laps around it. So don't let this video fool you, if you are on a strict budget you don't need all that ram if you can't afford it. I'm running huge sessions with tons of heavy plugins before I ever run into anything that interrupts the flow, or impedes work. So if you're not scoring movies or running sessions with 300 tracks, you can run a studio on a base m2 Mac mini. If you're advanced then you already know this. Beginners can get years on the base M2 chip. If you have the money then for sure buy the step that fits your need.
Thanks for your comment. RAM on Apple Silicon is unified memory, not the same as RAM on Intel systems. 32 GB on Intel can indeed underperform 8GB on a M2 system. I recommend 16GB on Apple Silicon for longevity purposes. Not a huge price increase between 8GB and 16GB unified RAM memory and absolutely worth it in my opinion.
This is false. You can outgrow any computer instantly with effects. If you don’t use them, you probably don’t because your current computer can’t handle them
Since 2017 using intel i5, iMac 40 gb ram, 1 tb ssd and using uad2 satellite for plugins , never freeze any track. doing almost heaviest projects, never stuck due to computer power. still I am happy in 2024 with intel power . 😊😊😊😊😊
I hear you Joey! That’s unfortunately the name of the game with computers in general. If you can stretch it to 7 years, then it basically did its job. As soon as we start updating operating system, updating software, etc, the machine will be using more and more system resources and eventually, we encounter a bottleneck with performance.
@@OliBeaudoin Yeah exactly! I had used by 2012 Macbook Pro for exactly 7 years before getting the mini. I'm still ok with my current rig but I know the change will be immense once I make the jump. Merci!!
@@joeyredamusic at least you aren’t having issues. I have the exact same system as you and some of these new plugins and especially Pro Tools sessions in general with alot of tracks are taxing the f out of my cpu. I think I am going to be getting a mac studio m2 soon cause although I have been contemplating on waiting for the m4s third party developers won’t be up to speed since they can drop at any moment. Probably by mid 25.. The question is do I get a max or ultra
@@joeyredamusic Same here, I got an old 2012 MBP and this thing is still working fine. These machines had more longevity than the newer ones - I even swapped the DVD drive for an extra SSD, something that's just not possible nowadays!
I think it is also good to know that the 1To+ internal ssd gives you almost twice as fast read/write speeds than the 512Go. (4 nand chips instead of 2, 6000MB/s vs 3000MB/s - 1500 MB/s for the 256Go) Your OS and your big apps/sessions will open faster, and you’ll get more headroom before the computer slows down when the ssd is 80%+ full. It gives you also more speed and capacity in case of RAM memory swap. 😊 a $200 upgrade, which may be worth it for some of us. (From 512 Go)
Great video - very helpful! I'm looking at a Mac Studio M2 Max, and I'm curious about 30 core vs 38 core GPU - is that likely to make much difference if I'm only doing audio work (i.e. no video editing etc)?
Finally someone who knows what he is talking about, I have watched many videos on youtube but none as well informed as this one, thanks for such a great video!
Hello, I'm planning to buy a Macbook Air M3 8GB Ram 512SSD to use logic pro only. Is it really worth buying it. My budget is only 1200$. Can the plugins like nexus, omnisphere and kontakt run smoothly in this laptop. The Macbook Air M3 is around 1000$. Is there any apple alternative laptops or is there any windows laptops out there. What should i choose. Please give me your advice. Thanks :)
Hey Pikachu! The MBair should be plenty powerful to run the plugins/VSTs you mentioned. Just be careful with RAM since you have only 8GB and Kontakt can eat up a lot of it. I recommend you check out my video about how to optimize RAM usage with Kontakt: ruclips.net/video/ao4CvtVZ1EM/видео.htmlsi=IGXZlNCy-4XHhujp
Hi can you please tell me how well the m4 max or pro manage with plugins in a live setting. Is there latency or could I mix my band's 8x stems live set (4 plugs per stem) with ableton or logic plugs and a soundcard , not needing a mixing desk. And what would be best best bang fot buck here Can you do a vid testing kn real tine to show us
Hey Matt, thanks a lot for your comment. That is an excellent question. Most live mixers I know use DSP accelerator cards (Waves Soundgrid, UAD-2 Live Rack, Avid HDX, etc.) along with their mixing desk to ensure latency is a non-issue. Alternatively, plugins running on the m4 max/pro system without DSP acceleration have to be picked wisely since some have a much higher latency than others (linear phase EQs, linear MB compressors, etc). I'd recommend you check out this video for optimizing your Mac, then perhaps consider a DSP-accelerator card: ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.html I will definitely consider your suggestion for an upcoming video. I will be working on an M4 review video in the next few months. Cheers!
I'm running a 2017 Imac with 8GB of Ram and I am doing orchestral music (film music style) with some of the heaviest VSTs you can find. I am proud of what I could do with this basic machine. I can do it with less power and Ram but I'll have to freeze my tracks in order to progress in the composition or the CPU will crash. But now I totally need to upgrade my stuff. The knowledge you just gave us about the differences of the DAWs / Cores is priceless. It will certainly help me choose the best machine for Logic Pro (The one I use). I am currently thinking about the IMAC M3 24gb Ram. An all in one computer that could work great with the new "unified" Ram. Coupled with a Macbook Air 8gb for presentations in my client meetings (running smaller files for them, freezed one or WAV exported files with a video. Many thanks for your video, I've seen a lot of them talking about the same thing and yours is one of the really helpful ones. 🎶
Thanks so much for your comment. Glad the video helped! If you can stretch things for the new M4 systems (studio/mini) that are coming out at the end of the year, I think that would be the best solution for you. For system ressource management, these other videos may be helpful: ruclips.net/video/b6crH3wXYqw/видео.htmlsi=eULIxpv6A1ZV43Pw ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.htmlsi=ZLRIPSPdR_UycOA9
I use StudioOne Pro and really would like to stay under $1000. Doesn’t matter to me if it’s a laptop or desktop. I don’t run a crazy amount of tracks or plugins. But the ones I use are pretty taxing on the cpu(ezdrummer, amplitude, Xvox) Any specific recommendations?
Refurb mac mini M2/M2 pro should be plenty of power and you’ll save on the display costs as it’s not necessary for mixing. Hope that helps! Make sure you have at least 16GB RAM.
I'm almost half way through your video and I've already finally decided to buy a MacBook Air M3 15" 24gb 512 as my portable music production workhorse, after overthinking and researching for the last 3 months. I hope my decision stays the same until the end of your video. Thanks.
That’s the tricky part with tech, there’s always a new thing coming out. I’ll be waiting for an M4 system, but if you need something right now, M3 should be able to last for many years still!
This system is a beast. YES, it’s enough. If you ever run out of RAM. Check out my tips about DAW management hacks: ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.htmlsi=tA69vkiqzQL467A6
Hello, I'm still new to music production. I want to master the Logic Pro DAW and any thoughts on the "MacBook Air 13.3" Laptop - Apple M1 chip - 8GB Memory - 512GB SSD." I never owned an Apple laptop but I'm considering buying one now. I heard the "M" chips are better than the Intel chips for apple laptops. I'm a budget currently so I'm trying not to spend too much. Also, what are your thoughts on buying a refurbished MacBook. Last question is adding Apple Care to my device important?
Thanks for your comment. The system you mentioned would be good enough for basic mixing for sure. Ideally, get 16GB of RAM and you should be good to go for years. You can find great deals on refurbished M1 systems for sure. For Apple Care, the goal would be to have warranty coverage beyond the first year. It’s mostly a “piece of mind” insurance. I personally never paid extra for that. I prefer to have better specs instead and keep the money for the next system, but that’s just a matter of preference. Hope that helps!
@OliBeaudoin What are your thoughts on a Mac Mini. At least one with an M2 Chip with 16 of ram. Also is 256 GB good or should I get at least 500GB if I'm starting
@ Hey Danny! Mac minis are awesome. Super powerful for the size and you can buy and the external display makes things easier for when you need to upgrade. A M2 Mac mini should cover your needs for regular-sized mixing sessions!
Hi, I was looking at an Mac Mini m4, 10 Core CPU, 10 Core GPU, 24GB RAM, 512GB SSD, is this good to run logic pro and Protools without having problems like latency? Or should I get an m4 pro?
Judging from personal experience, internal drives are always faster than external. For external drives, It also depends on how many devices are connected to your ports because they share bandwidth. My advice would be to get an internal 1TB SSD (instead of 500GB) because they have more NAND flash chips allowing faster, read, and write speed on your SSD. Install all applications and operating system on that internal drive and run your sessions on an external solid-state drive with fast read and write speed such as the crucial X10. Hope that helps! For more info check out this video: ruclips.net/video/b6crH3wXYqw/видео.htmlsi=uKvHNuuzVIJzhdUa
Thank you for your great work! Having a real hard time deciding whether to get the 12 or 14 core m4 pro (14”). After lots of reading I think 24 gb probably will be enough. Making organic/chill house in Abelton. Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot for your comment. I’d pick the 14 core if you plan on keeping the system for a long time. 24 RAM is plenty if you don’t go crazy with virtual instruments. 🙏
Glad I could help! Try installing those sample packs on an external drive so can get away with 512GB SSD. All my librairies and sessions run from external drives. Check this video for more tips: ruclips.net/video/b6crH3wXYqw/видео.htmlsi=2Ok30wH_c-gw2dgE
Hey Jesse, Geekbench is good info - but doesn’t always translate into actual performance for pro audio purposes specifically. The leap from M3 to M4 doesn’t seem as significant than Intel to M1 for sure.
@@OliBeaudoin My point was actually that for people like me that are just entering the market (not upgrading) we can get a base unit for $599 that outperforms what was previously a gold standard for consumer music production...now I can pump that extra $1k into unnecessary analog gear that I dont' really need but want anyway...Reverb here I come!😂
I know this video is old but if I were to buy a new M4 pro 14cpu core with 48gb ram do I need to worry about losing performance because of overheating I ideally want the portability but if I will lose loads of performance I’d rather go with a mini with 64gb ram
This setup is going to be lighting fast and most Apple Silicon reported no issues with heat whatsoever. I’d say go for the portable option - you won’t lose loads of performance due to overheating. I will personally be waiting for the M4 Mac Studios that will be released later in 2025.
@ so running the MacBook Pro in clamshell mode will have exact same performance as the Mac mini if they have the same spec even over a long work session?
@@jamiemyers4696 Technically, yes. But from my own experience, desktop computers always have an edge over portable ones with same specs. Either way, your M4 will most likely be overkill for audio purposes only. I'm about to get an M4 system mostly because of the bottleneck I'm encountering with video editing more than with my DAW/mixing.
I'm currently using a base model MacBook Pro from 2019, but it's struggling to keep up with my music production needs. I work mainly in Ableton and produce modern metal, using CPU-intensive plugins like Archetype for guitar amps and GetGoodDrums for drum VSTs. My sessions often have around 30+ tracks, each with individual processing and effects, so the CPU load gets pretty high. What would be the best Apple device to handle this kind of workflow smoothly?
Hey! I’d say if you have the budget, get the new M4 MBP. In the meantime, here are some tips to maximize your current system: ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.htmlsi=rVKXbvomQ29NdCyC I’ll be waiting for the release of the M4 Mac Studio to upgrade. 🤘🏻
I currently have an older MacBook pro I got in college over 5 years ago and.... its miserable. tracks freeze while recording, logic pro crashes... I need something new bad!
I'm looking to upgrade to a better mac device for music production and Mix/Mastering (electronic, trap, reggaeton and similar genres). Any recommendations for devices that can handle some heavy plugins such as god particle, Acustica audio plugins and sessions with lots of plugins in general without having to freeze tracks every time? (laptops & desktops recommendations will be highly appreciated)
Hey there! Thank for your comment. If you are running DSP-intensive sessions and not many virtual instruments, I'd suggest you shoot for an Apple Silicon M2 Pro (MBP, Mac Studio) system with 16GB RAM. This should be more than enough to run heavy plugins like you mentioned. If you have a higher budget, I'd recommend you wait for the new M4 systems that will be released in the next weeks (Mac Mini, etc). As always, these new systems will be priced accordingly. When budget is tight, it's always better to opt for something that is not the "latest thing" out there. Hope that helps!
I’d wait for an M4 system even if the performance increases between M3 to M4 are not huge. It always depends if you can still do your day-to-day work with your current machine. I’ll be waiting patiently For the release of the M4 Mac Studio in 2025.
@@OliBeaudoin Thanks for the response. I don't have an apple system right now and I wanna start using logic. You think it's worth waiting around 5months for the m4 air or just go ahead and buy m3 air right now?
One important thing that’s not noted in this video is Apple’s M line silicon handles RAM differently than Intel’s did. So if you have an Intel Mac and run a RAM test with activity monitor, it’s going to show different results for the same session than it would on an M silicon Mac. A good idea might be to go to an Apple Store, pull up the sample/demo project in Logic on the different Macs there and run a RAM test. You can turn different plugins on and off and mute or delete tracks if your average sessions are smaller so you can see exactly what the RAM usage is like with each M processor. Or you could run a max test if you do big sessions or film composition. This should give you a more realistic idea of how much RAM to get on a new Mac if you’re looking to upgrade.
I haven't had a computer in about 8 years, I used to use Windows but I'm completely changing my mind. Windows has way too many issues to be at all sustainable for audio production. My plan is to save up for a custom electric ukulele and practice on that for at least a year and a half while saving for a Mac. It's extremely important that I actually learn how to play before I even record.
Hello Very nice Video my Friend. I'm between 8 or 16 Gb M3 Macbook air. I will be using Studio one for Music Production. But I only will be using my arranger voices & stylez ( Korg Pa5x ) for creating music. Since I will not be using multiple channels and multiple software vsts you think I will face issues with 8 gb ram ? Thank you
The best way to know if 8GB of RAM will be enough for your specific needs is to try the RAM test showed in the video with your current system. Note that Integrated RAM is much more efficient than with Intel Mac systems. If you don’t use many VSTs and plugins, 8GB may be sufficient. I’d personally shoot for at least 16GB for system longevity as the App updates and new OS versions tend to take more ressources with years. Hope that helps! 🙏
Hi there! Really nice video! I am currently stucked with both config (mac pro 2009 xenon dual 3.46 and 128 gb ram and macbook pro 2020 16 gb). Totally lost wizh all those macs. What desktop would recommend for ableton live ? Also using uad plugins via firewire 😅
Hi Philippe, a new Mac Mini M4 would be a major upgrade. Alternatively, you could wait for the release of the Mac studio M4 which should be released mid 2025. Regarding your UAD DSP accelerator you may have to upgrade hardware due to compatibility issues because your new machine will be coming with Sonoma and no way to roll back to earlier OS. It’s best to check on UAD’s website for that to avoid surprises. Congrats for stretching your Mac Pro until now!
@@OliBeaudoin Hi again, thanks a lot for your reply? I was wondering if a mac studio M2 max would be equivalent to a new Mac Mini M4? What do you think? I found some used mac studio M2 max and was wondering if it would be a great occasion? I can live with my current setup until next year for sure .) And for the UAD I know I will have to get a new satellite using Thunderbolt. Also here found some good used ones but using Thunderbolt 2 and not Thunderbolt 3 but maybe with adaptor T2 to T3 I should be fine? Also for my A&H GS-R24 which using firewire, I know I would have to go for a RME digiface and use the ADAT out from GS-R24 ... lot of new stuff to buy just to be able to install Ableton 12 and to be able to work with heavy projects (I changed also my way of working using more and more plugins instead of hardware, I guess this is the price to pay ...). Thanks again for your precious help!
Yes, UAD TB3-TB2 works as long as you get original Apple stuff (that’s what I’m using). The M2 Studio system is awesome, especially if you can find a good deal on it. I’d go for that to have some dough for all the rest since you’re upgrading multiple things at once. Hope that helps! Cheers!
Hi! I’m looking to buy a new M4 Macbook pro and I have to choose between choosing the 12 CPU + 48 RAM or 14 CPU + 24 RAM. I think the first option will suit music production better but I may be wrong. What do you recommend? 😊
Hi there! It depends how many virtual instruments you are running and which DAW you are using - according to the use of performance and efficiency course in the CPU . I would go for more CPUs and 24 RAM if you don’t run too many virtual instruments
Hello, Are you using an Intel IMac for your Music production? Im thinking about picking up one for fl studio since I tried m1 and it was working so badly so maybe intel would be better because optimisation?
Hey Jakub, I’m not sure why you had a bad experience with Apple Silicon. Maybe the system you tried had insufficient RAM, which created a bottleneck. I’d say give it another shot, maybe an M2 Pro system. Cheers!
Thanks so much! Extremely useful. My regular Mini M2 proved too slow with large string VSTs on Kontakt 7 and multiple audio tracks. Now that the M4 mini is out - will the pro M4 make a difference vs the regular M4, using Logic ?
Thanks for your comment! I am surprised to hear that you are having issues with your M2 set up. I’m suspecting that you may have insufficient RAM on your current system for your specific needs. Instead of upgrading to an M4 system, have you looked into trying to optimize your workflow with Kontakt? This may help you: ruclips.net/video/ao4CvtVZ1EM/видео.htmlsi=kFGszbgpbtxJQdg1
@@allongroth7971 Oh yes, M4 with 48GB of integrated RAM will help - guaranteed. In doubt, I you can also check out this video about DAW optimization hacks: ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.html
@@allongroth7971go for 64 or more if you do big orchestral sessions! Some of my orchestral projects use up to 50gb of ram if it’s hybrid orchestral trailer music for example
It’s a good option if you are planning on also getting an external display. Mixing on a tiny screen like that can be tiresome. It packs tons of power and will be less expensive, so you can save a little and get a decent monitor on marketplace!
@@staing2348 Yes, just use the appropriate connector. Since the MBAir has only USB4/TB4 ports, you'll need a HDMI or VGA to USB-C adapter like this: amzn.to/4dVOyyT
I was looking at an Apple Mac Studio M2 Ultra Chip 24 Core CPU 60 Core GPU 64GB RAM 1TB SSD. I imagine I can use my wireless mouse and keyboard from my 2017 iMac and get a decent $200 monitor. Do you think this would be adequate to run Ableton, Maschine, and Logic proX?
This is MUCH more than a capable system with the DAWs you mentioned. It’s very powerful for audio and even video as well since you’re opting for Ultra. This system should last you a long time. You will be saving money with the 200$ display, instead of buying equivalent specs on a laptop with built in display! 👍
would you reccommend the macbook pro 14 inch with 16 ram and 512 SSD? i saw you recommended the pro only with 16 inch display, and btw I'm thinking of buying a MacBook air m3 but i don't know if its enough considering the fanless situation there.
Hey Ron, yes an MBP with 14” is perfect. If you feel the display is a little small, you can simply connect an external monitor. For the MBAir, it is also a great option if you have AC or something to keep your room cool, so that it doesn’t go to thermal throttling.That’s from my personal experience with macs in general. Hope that helps!
Core Audio is Mac built-in driver if you are not using any external interace. If you use an external interface, you'll be using the driver that works with that interface.
Awesome video ! I think I will buy the Macbook Air 15 but. I am just curious why do you recommand Air but not Pro ? I was looking at the specs and they look very similar. (I am currently on a dying Windows desktop but I want to switch and I dont know anything about Mac, I am using Ableton for music creation, recordings... so I dont need a war machine to support 900000000 tracks :))
Hey John, thanks for your comment! Yes, MBP and Air have similar specs. Since you’re not running crazy sessions, the Air should be more than enough for audio purposes only, but it has less ports, so you may need a hub/dock. Hope that helps!
I need help! I want to produce techno music & I‘m so confused if I should buy MacBook Pro 1TB or 512GB & also idk if I should choose 14 or 16 inch! Normally I like a bigger screen but everyone says for producing the 14 would be better??
Hey! I would get the 512GB SSD with 14” display. Then if you need it and can afford it, get an external display to have a more comfortable viewing experience when mixing and external SSD for saving your sessions and files other than your system files and apps. Hope that helps!
This was very informative, thank you. If i were to load up a template in Maschine (128 vsts in total), plus plug olin effects etc, what mac mini or studio would cut it? Is a mac mini m2 pro capable and if so, what specs? My 2012 mbp 2.7 quad had no chance. I want to be able to pull sounds and play them simutaneously without skipping, i know the studio can run several hundred vsts, the minis though im not sure.
Thanks a lot for your comment. The 2012 MBP can’t stand this type of session indeed. I got one here and with recent OS+DAW versions, it’s having a hard time to handle a small-sized session, let alone 128+ VSTs and other cpu-intensive plugs. The M2 Pro mini should be more than OK with your current needs if you are running on a tight budget. You can also wait a few months for the new M4 MBP systems if you want extra longevity and a portable system. Hope that helps! 🙌🏼
@ thank you for replying my comment but i still don’t understand if its good for music production I work already over 30 Chanels it’s working well for now
I already have a 21.5” iMac with keyboard and mouse, so I’m assuming the switch will be easy. Is it really worth 375$ CAD to get the 12CPU core and 19 GPU core over the standard 10 CPU and 16GPU for the Mini M2Pro, for basic protools sessions? Je me demande vraiment si ça vaut le prix et le temp d’attente. Merci Ps. Subbed after watching this video. Great job
Hey Carlos, thanks a lot for your question and sub! My short answer would be, it depends how long you want to keep your system for and how heavy your average sessions are. I like to get my systems with high CPU specs. Are you doing video as well? If so, I’d say the 12/19 setup would be best. If not, perhaps get the 10/16 and save your money for the next upgrade. I’m stretching my current system here to make the jump straight to M4, but gotta admit it may be overkill. A M2 Pro 10/16 should still be a solid system for at least 5 years. Hope that helps!
@@OliBeaudoin no video, or very basic iMovie stuff. I use protools to record vocals and guitars.. never more than 24 tracks. No automation. Obviously 12 is better than 10 CPU but is it worth the 375$, I don’t believe it is for my usage. I had my iMac since 2016, and I’m thinking of keeping the mini for the next 3-5 years.
Ok, then go for the 10/16 setup. It’s gonna be LOT of horsepower for your needs! You can check for Marketplace deals as well to save extra dough. Sometimes you can even find systems still on AppleCare, with original invoice, etc. Hope that helps! 🙏
I am brand new to digital recording and was depending on the salesperson at Sweetwater to steer me in the right direction. So I purchased Studio One and I had just purchased a new MacBook Pro with M3 I already had the Focusrite i1820 and Octo-Pre What are your thoughts on this set up. My first roadblock seems there are less how to videos for learning Studio One vs other well known DAW’s What are your thoughts on this set up? Should I switch DAW’s?
Presonus Studio One is a great DAW. It’s the one I use for mastering purposes because it has built-in Metadata for song export, which is really useful. They also keep on adding features, etc. In the end it’s about how fast is your workflow in any DAW, so most people stick with what they got used to, unless some crazy business move happened and they didn’t agree with new imposed subscription model for example (Avid Pro Tools). That’s also why I jumped ship to @steinberg Cubase. You have a solid setup right there and should be able to do A LOT with it. For learning your DAW’s workflow, maybe in a few months when things calm down, I can work on a little tutorial for you to get you started! Let me know if you ever max out your CPU with that killer laptop! 💻🙏😎
Thanks for your comment! I will be waiting for the M4 Mac Studio mid-2025 - it should be a real beast. If you can manage thing with your current system, I'd recommend to wait!
Great video. I am looking for a desktop Mac to run Ableton, Logic Pro, and Maschine. I own all three daws and I like to used them all. Can you recommend a good Mac? Peace!!!!
Glad you liked the video! If you’re not too tight on budget, I’d recommend the Mac Studio M2 Pro with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD. If you’re not in a rush, wait for the release of the M4 desktop systems in a few months with similar specs. This will guarantee longevity and maximum power/speed for your studio. That’s what I’m planning on doing as well! 🙏😎
@@OliBeaudoin I was looking at this model: Apple Mac Studio M2 Ultra Chip 24 Core CPU 60 Core GPU 64GB RAM 1TB SSD. I imagine I can use my wireless mouse and keyboard from my 2017 iMac and get a decent $200 monitor.
Hello! Je veux me lancer dans le scoring donc est-ce que un Mac Studio m2 max 64g RAM est suffisant ? Ou vaut-il mieux attendre la sorti du Mac Studio M4?
Salut! Excellente question. En fait cela dépend de l’urgence de la situation pour l’achat du nouvel ordinateur. Si tu peux attendre encore environ six mois, les nouveaux Mac Mini et Studio M4 devrait sortir mi-2025. Avec les ordinateurs, c’est toujours la même chose: plus on attend le mieux c’est généralement. Tiens compte du fait que cette nouvelle génération sera très dispendieuse à la sortie. J’espère que cela répond à ta question. Pour ma part, je vais attendre à la mi-2025, car mon système est encore stable et suffisamment performant pour l’audio. 🙏
Hey Oli, Can I buy a certified refurbished M1 pro 14/16 inch with 16GB RAM and 512 GB SSD( DAW - Logic pro) for portability as I have a pc already as my primary resource? or let me know if there is there any better recommendations (Can Upgrade after 2-3 years if needed). Thanks Oli this was really helpful video for me :)
Glad that the video was helpful. Depending on your session size, DSP load, and use of virtual instruments, a refurb M1 Pro with 16GB unified RAM should be more than enough to run an average mixing session - especially if you are using it as an alternate rig. It will for sure last you a good 3 years. I’d say go for it. I’d pick a 16”(more comfy if you are not planning on using it with an external display). Cheers!
A few other things that deserve a mention (on the Mac Studio at least). If you pick a 512GB Drive, they supply it on one chip. If you go for the 1TB, they supply it across 2 chips. The later version is faster read and write. The other things are, if you run out of RAM, it will start using your internal drive to make up the difference, which is slower. But the main thing is, if your system uses your internal drive for this purpose, it will wear out your drive quicker. Finally, Logic only uses the performance cores. So if you've got a 12 core M2, Logic will only use 8 of the cores (the other 4 are efficiency cores). And if I'm not mistaken, the M3 only has 6 performance cores and the rest are efficiency (Double on the Ultra of course).
Mac Studio M1 is still a very powerful machine for audio purposes. If you are not doing video and found a great deal on a system with these specs, I’d say go for it. There are differences between each (M1 to M4), note that the latest processors have more efficiency cores, so depending on the DAW that you are using it may not necessarily be advantageous since some DAWs don’t make use them to their full potential yet, like Logic.
@@OliBeaudoinI was using REAPER because it was the only DAW my old laptop could handle. Now, with my new computing power, I'm planning to demo a few DAWs to find the one that suits my workflow best 🤔
Great video. My only thing is that your thumbnail had the M1 Max Mac Studio which you did not go over very much. Maybe next time include some used Mac options.
@@OliBeaudoin I have always gone for as much RAM as I can afford at the time and then I’ve looked at storage. My last Laptop was a 2013 MacBook Pro - a really good machine in its time but sadly it is now so long in tooth. I was thinking of waiting on the M4 - I’d llove a Max Studio but I need lots of RAM. I create Orchestral Templates so the more the merrier. 64GB would be ok I suppose but I’d prefer 128GB. But only the Top Graphics beasts go that high with RAM…..
The issue is that you can't have 192 gigs WITHOUT buying the M2 Ultra...certain specs are limited to certain tiers...are they needed? Maybe not, but there isn't a choice...I think you should make that clear to people because it's not like Apple allows you to mix and match any CPU with whatever amount of RAM you need. I'll add, that I did not spend the extra money for the top GPU as it's not needed...but for me to get 192 gigs of RAM, I had to get the M2 Ultra.
Thanks for your comment. 192GB of integrated RAM on a M2 system is absolutely overkill for any music studio, even if you are running huge VSTi. Most mixers/producers will be just fine with 16GB. 32/64GB for users working on huge scores/orchestration. I understand your concern, but buying an M2 Ultra just to reach that 192 RAM capacity is not necessary. Better use that money for actual gear and/or plugins! 🙏
@@OliBeaudoin I run intensive VIs...for composing hybrid scores, 192 is not overkill at all, it's absolutely necessary...more so for many trailer scores. 64 is base minimum in my world. If you're doing a pop record, you may be able to get away with 16 gigs, but 32 is more ideal.
Your video editing is on point 👍 Good idea to use external SSDs. Apple store upgrades to storage and RAM are extortionary so keeping it to minimum baseline specs saves a lot of money. Now you have to do a video about best options for external drives and peripherals. 🤣
Thanks for this video. Just gave it a +1 and subscribed. I've just purchased a baseline Mac Mini M2 with 16Gb RAM and (❗) 256Gb storage - as a stop-gap machine to replace my 2015 iMac, while waiting for the M4's. Without knowing when they will be available I needed something to work on right now - to do piano performance videos while also going back to roots with the latest version of Logic Pro. This time round I also needed to factor in the cost of the Apple Studio Display (that's the one I wanted), so I've had to cut down on costs for the computer. As I start doing more score programming and more complex projects again, the M2 will be replaced with a higher up M4 (either Mini or Studio). And as I learn more about video animation, I could see myself using a Mac Studio. In the meantime I'll see how things go with this M2 Mini. All of my software instruments will be stored externally ready for the next changeover where I may go back to having 512Gb as I did with the iMac. 🤞
Thanks for the comment and sub. You have a decent plan lined up right there. I will be getting an M4 Mac Studio/Mini as well when they are released and will be holding on to my current « dinosaur » 🦖 in the meantime 🤣
With the Macbook, it is better to get the biggest internal SSD because it will prolong the life of the computer unless you know someone that can change the internal SSD.
If you mean "hackintosh", you can try it to make it work if you have a PC installing mac OS on it, but don't expect it to be 100% stable and working without any hassle.
What machine are you using? Is it still doing the job? Let me know!👇🏻
Hey, great video. I'm currently using a 2020 edition Acer Predator Triton 300 SE for all my needs (general, university-level music prod, gaming) and now, with several parts replaced and an unreliable replacement of a screen I am looking to Apple for my hopefully soon-to-be professional work in film music scoring/production. I'm able to afford the M3 Pro but I want a future-proof computer and now that only refurbished M2s are available, do you think it's wise to go for the M3 or go for an M2 Pro (BTW I use Reaper and will likely soon use ProTools alongside)?
@@kurboe283 Hey Kurboe, thanks for the comment. You have a pretty good question right there. Since you are thinking about working in orchestrations with larger sessions using a laptop, I'd say that right now a M3 Macbook Pro would be a great option to use with Reaper/PT making sure to get higher RAM specs like 32/64GB. Since you are not running on a tight budget, I would probably wait until the release of the portable M4 laptops in the next few months. If you mind a desktop, I'd be waiting until mid-2025 for the redesigned M4 Mac Studio/Mac mini, that's what I'll be doing!
I am using an upgraded 2010 Mac Pro, with 2 ssd running Mohave as it is the last OS Apple supported for this computer. Now I'm even getting messages from Spotify that my system is outdated.. Time to upgrade. Looking at the Mac Mini M2
Hey Olí so I have an Antelope Discrete 8 Synergy Core paired with a Scarlett 18i20 I’m running it with Studio One 4. I have plug ins that won’t longer work with my current system and my system lags because of all the plug ins I use especially when I playback. I will be upgrading to Studio One 7. I want a new Mac no laptop it will be desktop or the pro but I don’t want to over spend if I don’t have to. What do you recommend? I don’t do a lot of tracks right now the most I run is about 20 tracks maybe later down the road I’ll get into the 50 tracks but not right now I run a small shop but I do want good reliability and fast operating system that won’t let me down when using my favorite plug ins. I run a full drum track that takes anywhere from 10-12 tracks, vocals, bass, guitar, accordion and 2 return channels for my summing mixer. I’ll be mixing and mastering. Please help 🙏🏽 thanks! Hope to hear from you!
Yes, we keep on getting pushed to upgrade unfortunately - even when our systems are working just fine ! M2 should serve you well!
Sitting here going from an i9 20-core intel PC with 32gb of ram to the basic M2 Mac mini with 8gb Ram. Runs laps around it. So don't let this video fool you, if you are on a strict budget you don't need all that ram if you can't afford it. I'm running huge sessions with tons of heavy plugins before I ever run into anything that interrupts the flow, or impedes work. So if you're not scoring movies or running sessions with 300 tracks, you can run a studio on a base m2 Mac mini. If you're advanced then you already know this. Beginners can get years on the base M2 chip. If you have the money then for sure buy the step that fits your need.
Thanks for your comment. RAM on Apple Silicon is unified memory, not the same as RAM on Intel systems. 32 GB on Intel can indeed underperform 8GB on a M2 system. I recommend 16GB on Apple Silicon for longevity purposes. Not a huge price increase between 8GB and 16GB unified RAM memory and absolutely worth it in my opinion.
@@OliBeaudoindo you meen that kontakt library wich eats let's say 500bm ram on windows, can eat less in aple silicon?
I have a new video coming in exactly 2 weeks that talks all about that. Stay tuned! 🤙🏻
@@OliBeaudoin wow, waiting for it. Thanks
This is false. You can outgrow any computer instantly with effects. If you don’t use them, you probably don’t because your current computer can’t handle them
Since 2017 using intel i5, iMac 40 gb ram, 1 tb ssd and using uad2 satellite for plugins , never freeze any track. doing almost heaviest projects, never stuck due to computer power. still I am happy in 2024 with intel power . 😊😊😊😊😊
I’m glad that this setup is working for you! It’s always better to stretch things for as long as possible and buy things that actual retain value! 🙏😎
I am assuming you are using logic. I am getting a lot of errors when I close the program. Are you receiving any such errors?
Excellent video!! Thank you so much!! Much needed for our niche where we make music, edit video and live stream
Much appreciated man! 😎🙏
Omg bro I follow you since like 2014/15
@ That’s quite a while! Thanks a lot brother! 🤘🏻
I'm using a 2018 Mac Mini 3.2GHz 6-core i7, 64 GB RAM with an Apollo Twin. Bought only 5 years ago and feels like a relic 😢
I hear you Joey! That’s unfortunately the name of the game with computers in general. If you can stretch it to 7 years, then it basically did its job. As soon as we start updating operating system, updating software, etc, the machine will be using more and more system resources and eventually, we encounter a bottleneck with performance.
@@OliBeaudoin Yeah exactly! I had used by 2012 Macbook Pro for exactly 7 years before getting the mini. I'm still ok with my current rig but I know the change will be immense once I make the jump. Merci!!
@@joeyredamusic at least you aren’t having issues. I have the exact same system as you and some of these new plugins and especially Pro Tools sessions in general with alot of tracks are taxing the f out of my cpu. I think I am going to be getting a mac studio m2 soon cause although I have been contemplating on waiting for the m4s third party developers won’t be up to speed since they can drop at any moment. Probably by mid 25.. The question is do I get a max or ultra
@@joeyredamusic Same here, I got an old 2012 MBP and this thing is still working fine. These machines had more longevity than the newer ones - I even swapped the DVD drive for an extra SSD, something that's just not possible nowadays!
I think it is also good to know that the 1To+ internal ssd gives you almost twice as fast read/write speeds than the 512Go. (4 nand chips instead of 2, 6000MB/s vs 3000MB/s - 1500 MB/s for the 256Go) Your OS and your big apps/sessions will open faster, and you’ll get more headroom before the computer slows down when the ssd is 80%+ full. It gives you also more speed and capacity in case of RAM memory swap. 😊 a $200 upgrade, which may be worth it for some of us. (From 512 Go)
That’s good to know indeed! Thanks for your insights! 🙏
Great video - very helpful!
I'm looking at a Mac Studio M2 Max, and I'm curious about 30 core vs 38 core GPU - is that likely to make much difference if I'm only doing audio work (i.e. no video editing etc)?
Glad you liked the video. For audio purposes only, I'd recommend that you save your money and go with the 30 core GPU!
Finally someone who knows what he is talking about, I have watched many videos on youtube but none as well informed as this one, thanks for such a great video!
Thanks so much Axel! Glad it was helpful! 🙏
Hello, I'm planning to buy a Macbook Air M3 8GB Ram 512SSD to use logic pro only. Is it really worth buying it. My budget is only 1200$. Can the plugins like nexus, omnisphere and kontakt run smoothly in this laptop. The Macbook Air M3 is around 1000$. Is there any apple alternative laptops or is there any windows laptops out there. What should i choose. Please give me your advice. Thanks :)
Hey Pikachu! The MBair should be plenty powerful to run the plugins/VSTs you mentioned. Just be careful with RAM since you have only 8GB and Kontakt can eat up a lot of it. I recommend you check out my video about how to optimize RAM usage with Kontakt: ruclips.net/video/ao4CvtVZ1EM/видео.htmlsi=IGXZlNCy-4XHhujp
@@OliBeaudoin Thank you for your reply. Can i use it if i dont go for Kontakt?
@ of course!
Hi can you please tell me how well the m4 max or pro manage with plugins in a live setting. Is there latency or could I mix my band's 8x stems live set (4 plugs per stem) with ableton or logic plugs and a soundcard , not needing a mixing desk.
And what would be best best bang fot buck here
Can you do a vid testing kn real tine to show us
Hey Matt, thanks a lot for your comment. That is an excellent question. Most live mixers I know use DSP accelerator cards (Waves Soundgrid, UAD-2 Live Rack, Avid HDX, etc.) along with their mixing desk to ensure latency is a non-issue.
Alternatively, plugins running on the m4 max/pro system without DSP acceleration have to be picked wisely since some have a much higher latency than others (linear phase EQs, linear MB compressors, etc). I'd recommend you check out this video for optimizing your Mac, then perhaps consider a DSP-accelerator card: ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.html
I will definitely consider your suggestion for an upcoming video. I will be working on an M4 review video in the next few months. Cheers!
I'm running a 2017 Imac with 8GB of Ram and I am doing orchestral music (film music style) with some of the heaviest VSTs you can find. I am proud of what I could do with this basic machine. I can do it with less power and Ram but I'll have to freeze my tracks in order to progress in the composition or the CPU will crash. But now I totally need to upgrade my stuff. The knowledge you just gave us about the differences of the DAWs / Cores is priceless. It will certainly help me choose the best machine for Logic Pro (The one I use). I am currently thinking about the IMAC M3 24gb Ram. An all in one computer that could work great with the new "unified" Ram. Coupled with a Macbook Air 8gb for presentations in my client meetings (running smaller files for them, freezed one or WAV exported files with a video. Many thanks for your video, I've seen a lot of them talking about the same thing and yours is one of the really helpful ones. 🎶
Thanks so much for your comment. Glad the video helped! If you can stretch things for the new M4 systems (studio/mini) that are coming out at the end of the year, I think that would be the best solution for you. For system ressource management, these other videos may be helpful:
ruclips.net/video/b6crH3wXYqw/видео.htmlsi=eULIxpv6A1ZV43Pw
ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.htmlsi=ZLRIPSPdR_UycOA9
you are lucky cause I have the same iMac but 8G was definitely not surviving, I had to upgrade my RAM
@@kpopbutlofi I'm about to change system to M4, but indeed I upgraded RAM to 72GB RAM!
@@OliBeaudoin why? Are you planning to go on Mars?
@@kpopbutlofi It was overkill, I admit 🤣
I use StudioOne Pro and really would like to stay under $1000. Doesn’t matter to me if it’s a laptop or desktop. I don’t run a crazy amount of tracks or plugins. But the ones I use are pretty taxing on the cpu(ezdrummer, amplitude, Xvox) Any specific recommendations?
Refurb mac mini M2/M2 pro should be plenty of power and you’ll save on the display costs as it’s not necessary for mixing. Hope that helps! Make sure you have at least 16GB RAM.
I'm almost half way through your video and I've already finally decided to buy a MacBook Air M3 15" 24gb 512 as my portable music production workhorse, after overthinking and researching for the last 3 months. I hope my decision stays the same until the end of your video. Thanks.
The m4 chip is coming out 😭
That’s the tricky part with tech, there’s always a new thing coming out. I’ll be waiting for an M4 system, but if you need something right now, M3 should be able to last for many years still!
Thinking about getting this same one, did you get it and how does it work for music production?
Can you recommend a laptop for around £1000 which will be very good for battery and powerful for big ableton probects?
MBP pro M3-M4 should do the most with batteries and performance. MB Air also to consider.
Is my Macbook pro m4 max 16 Core 64 GB RAM 2 TB SSD enough for huge orchestral projects/mixes? :)
This system is a beast. YES, it’s enough. If you ever run out of RAM. Check out my tips about DAW management hacks: ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.htmlsi=tA69vkiqzQL467A6
Hello, I'm still new to music production. I want to master the Logic Pro DAW and any thoughts on the "MacBook Air 13.3" Laptop - Apple M1 chip - 8GB Memory - 512GB SSD." I never owned an Apple laptop but I'm considering buying one now. I heard the "M" chips are better than the Intel chips for apple laptops. I'm a budget currently so I'm trying not to spend too much. Also, what are your thoughts on buying a refurbished MacBook. Last question is adding Apple Care to my device important?
Thanks for your comment. The system you mentioned would be good enough for basic mixing for sure. Ideally, get 16GB of RAM and you should be good to go for years. You can find great deals on refurbished M1 systems for sure. For Apple Care, the goal would be to have warranty coverage beyond the first year. It’s mostly a “piece of mind” insurance. I personally never paid extra for that. I prefer to have better specs instead and keep the money for the next system, but that’s just a matter of preference. Hope that helps!
@OliBeaudoin What are your thoughts on a Mac Mini. At least one with an M2 Chip with 16 of ram. Also is 256 GB good or should I get at least 500GB if I'm starting
@ Hey Danny! Mac minis are awesome. Super powerful for the size and you can buy and the external display makes things easier for when you need to upgrade. A M2 Mac mini should cover your needs for regular-sized mixing sessions!
very helpful as it's time for me to upgrade
Glad I could help! 🙏
In my research, and so far from my experience... M2 Studio Ultra 64gb for music is the pinnace at present. 😃
Mac Studio M2 is my favourite pick at the moment as well!
Hi, I was looking at an Mac Mini m4, 10 Core CPU, 10 Core GPU, 24GB RAM, 512GB SSD, is this good to run logic pro and Protools without having problems like latency? Or should I get an m4 pro?
Hey Chris, this is more than good - it’s incredibly powerful for audio purposes only. I will be getting an M4 system as well shortly! 🙏
@ thank you 😃
Will I be able to match the internal SSD speeds with a external ssd?
Judging from personal experience, internal drives are always faster than external. For external drives, It also depends on how many devices are connected to your ports because they share bandwidth. My advice would be to get an internal 1TB SSD (instead of 500GB) because they have more NAND flash chips allowing faster, read, and write speed on your SSD. Install all applications and operating system on that internal drive and run your sessions on an external solid-state drive with fast read and write speed such as the crucial X10. Hope that helps! For more info check out this video: ruclips.net/video/b6crH3wXYqw/видео.htmlsi=uKvHNuuzVIJzhdUa
Thank you for your great work! Having a real hard time deciding whether to get the 12 or 14 core m4 pro (14”). After lots of reading I think 24 gb probably will be enough. Making organic/chill house in Abelton. Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot for your comment. I’d pick the 14 core if you plan on keeping the system for a long time. 24 RAM is plenty if you don’t go crazy with virtual instruments. 🙏
So, a Macbook Air M3 16Gb will be okay for basic music production, using Logic, VSTs etc? Need to buy for my daughter to learn.
Absolutely it will!
Why keep 512go is better than 1To ?
More NAND chips - hence overall faster system performance
Thanks, that was helpful!
I was thinking that 512 GB disk could be little if I have Ableton with many packs, but probably 512 GB is stil enough?
Glad I could help! Try installing those sample packs on an external drive so can get away with 512GB SSD. All my librairies and sessions run from external drives. Check this video for more tips: ruclips.net/video/b6crH3wXYqw/видео.htmlsi=2Ok30wH_c-gw2dgE
Would an m1 iMac with 8gb/256gb be enough for a bedroom guitarist running Logic Pro?
Yes, for basic guitar recording and amp sims, this should last you several years. Watch out for internal storage since the SSD is quite small.
Geekbench CPU score for base model Mac Mini M4 ($599) is 14,621 which is just slightly higher than the M2 Pro AND Max.
Hey Jesse, Geekbench is good info - but doesn’t always translate into actual performance for pro audio purposes specifically. The leap from M3 to M4 doesn’t seem as significant than Intel to M1 for sure.
@@OliBeaudoin My point was actually that for people like me that are just entering the market (not upgrading) we can get a base unit for $599 that outperforms what was previously a gold standard for consumer music production...now I can pump that extra $1k into unnecessary analog gear that I dont' really need but want anyway...Reverb here I come!😂
@@jesseforrest4708 Haha, you know it! We are all guilty of the G.A.S.!
I know this video is old but if I were to buy a new M4 pro 14cpu core with 48gb ram do I need to worry about losing performance because of overheating I ideally want the portability but if I will lose loads of performance I’d rather go with a mini with 64gb ram
This setup is going to be lighting fast and most Apple Silicon reported no issues with heat whatsoever. I’d say go for the portable option - you won’t lose loads of performance due to overheating. I will personally be waiting for the M4 Mac Studios that will be released later in 2025.
@ so running the MacBook Pro in clamshell mode will have exact same performance as the Mac mini if they have the same spec even over a long work session?
@@jamiemyers4696 Technically, yes. But from my own experience, desktop computers always have an edge over portable ones with same specs. Either way, your M4 will most likely be overkill for audio purposes only. I'm about to get an M4 system mostly because of the bottleneck I'm encountering with video editing more than with my DAW/mixing.
I'm currently using a base model MacBook Pro from 2019, but it's struggling to keep up with my music production needs. I work mainly in Ableton and produce modern metal, using CPU-intensive plugins like Archetype for guitar amps and GetGoodDrums for drum VSTs. My sessions often have around 30+ tracks, each with individual processing and effects, so the CPU load gets pretty high. What would be the best Apple device to handle this kind of workflow smoothly?
Hey! I’d say if you have the budget, get the new M4 MBP. In the meantime, here are some tips to maximize your current system: ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.htmlsi=rVKXbvomQ29NdCyC
I’ll be waiting for the release of the M4 Mac Studio to upgrade. 🤘🏻
I currently have an older MacBook pro I got in college over 5 years ago and.... its miserable. tracks freeze while recording, logic pro crashes... I need something new bad!
Try formatting the drive and reinstall everything with a clean sleep if that doesn’t fix things get a new M3 or M4 system!
M3 air 15" 24gb ram . Logic pro it's a beast. Doesn't get too hot either, since no fans in the air.
Thanks for sharing 🙏
I'm looking to upgrade to a better mac device for music production and Mix/Mastering (electronic, trap, reggaeton and similar genres). Any recommendations for devices that can handle some heavy plugins such as god particle, Acustica audio plugins and sessions with lots of plugins in general without having to freeze tracks every time? (laptops & desktops recommendations will be highly appreciated)
Hey there! Thank for your comment. If you are running DSP-intensive sessions and not many virtual instruments, I'd suggest you shoot for an Apple Silicon M2 Pro (MBP, Mac Studio) system with 16GB RAM. This should be more than enough to run heavy plugins like you mentioned. If you have a higher budget, I'd recommend you wait for the new M4 systems that will be released in the next weeks (Mac Mini, etc). As always, these new systems will be priced accordingly. When budget is tight, it's always better to opt for something that is not the "latest thing" out there. Hope that helps!
Hi.. my name is George… I’m thinking about buying . MacBook Air with 8 ram and 512 Sdd . For virtual dj software. It’s a laptop?
My laptop will be on the move with me. Because I’m a mobile dj.
Go to virtual dj. To see that the MacBook Air with 8 ram and 512 sad . Is sufficient enough to run virtual dj software?
Hey George, for virtual DJ software this system should be just fine!
Do you think I should wait for the m4 air macbook or just get the m3 air with 16gb ram now?
I’d wait for an M4 system even if the performance increases between M3 to M4 are not huge. It always depends if you can still do your day-to-day work with your current machine. I’ll be waiting patiently For the release of the M4 Mac Studio in 2025.
@@OliBeaudoin Thanks for the response. I don't have an apple system right now and I wanna start using logic. You think it's worth waiting around 5months for the m4 air or just go ahead and buy m3 air right now?
@@Nikxsy I'd say don't let the tools get in the way of your creativity. If you wanna start recording now, get an M3 and get going right away!
@@OliBeaudoin you think mid 25 or early they will drop?
@@nine27 Should be in June at WWDC if rumours are right!
One important thing that’s not noted in this video is Apple’s M line silicon handles RAM differently than Intel’s did. So if you have an Intel Mac and run a RAM test with activity monitor, it’s going to show different results for the same session than it would on an M silicon Mac. A good idea might be to go to an Apple Store, pull up the sample/demo project in Logic on the different Macs there and run a RAM test. You can turn different plugins on and off and mute or delete tracks if your average sessions are smaller so you can see exactly what the RAM usage is like with each M processor. Or you could run a max test if you do big sessions or film composition. This should give you a more realistic idea of how much RAM to get on a new Mac if you’re looking to upgrade.
Unified memory works differently indeed! You need way less for similar results. Thanks for your tip!
What do you think of a macbook pro 2012 2.9ghz 1tb ssd 16ram m1 chip upgrade for music production?
I’m not sure what you are referring to. It’s not possible to upgrade a CPU chip in a Mac.
@ yes it is :)
Is the was going buy a MacBook Pro 15inch (2014) 16gb - ssd 256gb . For fl studio should I do it .? Keep in mind my pockets very tight
If pockets are tight, shoot for a refurb M1/M2 system with minimum 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD
I haven't had a computer in about 8 years, I used to use Windows but I'm completely changing my mind. Windows has way too many issues to be at all sustainable for audio production. My plan is to save up for a custom electric ukulele and practice on that for at least a year and a half while saving for a Mac. It's extremely important that I actually learn how to play before I even record.
You’re right about learning your instrument!
The gains for the ultra chip are double the CPU cores of the Max chips. I think you meant going from the Pro to the Max it’s mainly the GPU cores
Exactly 👍
Hello Very nice Video my Friend. I'm between 8 or 16 Gb M3 Macbook air. I will be using Studio one for Music Production. But I only will be using my arranger voices & stylez ( Korg Pa5x ) for creating music. Since I will not be using multiple channels and multiple software vsts you think I will face issues with 8 gb ram ?
Thank you
The best way to know if 8GB of RAM will be enough for your specific needs is to try the RAM test showed in the video with your current system. Note that Integrated RAM is much more efficient than with Intel Mac systems. If you don’t use many VSTs and plugins, 8GB may be sufficient. I’d personally shoot for at least 16GB for system longevity as the App updates and new OS versions tend to take more ressources with years. Hope that helps! 🙏
MacBook Pro 14-inch M4 Pro 14-core CPU 20- core GPU 24GB/1TB is that ram enough
It is plenty unless you are mixing HUGE scores with plenty of virtual instruments. Check out the RAM test portion of this video to make sure! 🙏
@OliBeaudoin you legend, Il check it out. Thanks for the reply
@ you’re very welcome! 😎🙏
Hi there! Really nice video! I am currently stucked with both config (mac pro 2009 xenon dual 3.46 and 128 gb ram and macbook pro 2020 16 gb). Totally lost wizh all those macs. What desktop would recommend for ableton live ? Also using uad plugins via firewire 😅
Hi Philippe, a new Mac Mini M4 would be a major upgrade. Alternatively, you could wait for the release of the Mac studio M4 which should be released mid 2025. Regarding your UAD DSP accelerator you may have to upgrade hardware due to compatibility issues because your new machine will be coming with Sonoma and no way to roll back to earlier OS. It’s best to check on UAD’s website for that to avoid surprises. Congrats for stretching your Mac Pro until now!
@@OliBeaudoin Hi again, thanks a lot for your reply? I was wondering if a mac studio M2 max would be equivalent to a new Mac Mini M4? What do you think? I found some used mac studio M2 max and was wondering if it would be a great occasion? I can live with my current setup until next year for sure .) And for the UAD I know I will have to get a new satellite using Thunderbolt. Also here found some good used ones but using Thunderbolt 2 and not Thunderbolt 3 but maybe with adaptor T2 to T3 I should be fine? Also for my A&H GS-R24 which using firewire, I know I would have to go for a RME digiface and use the ADAT out from GS-R24 ... lot of new stuff to buy just to be able to install Ableton 12 and to be able to work with heavy projects (I changed also my way of working using more and more plugins instead of hardware, I guess this is the price to pay ...). Thanks again for your precious help!
Yes, UAD TB3-TB2 works as long as you get original Apple stuff (that’s what I’m using). The M2 Studio system is awesome, especially if you can find a good deal on it. I’d go for that to have some dough for all the rest since you’re upgrading multiple things at once. Hope that helps! Cheers!
Hi! I’m looking to buy a new M4 Macbook pro and I have to choose between choosing the 12 CPU + 48 RAM or 14 CPU + 24 RAM. I think the first option will suit music production better but I may be wrong. What do you recommend? 😊
Hi there! It depends how many virtual instruments you are running and which DAW you are using - according to the use of performance and efficiency course in the CPU . I would go for more CPUs and 24 RAM if you don’t run too many virtual instruments
I'm still using 2019 MBP with i9/32GB RAM, still fine for me 😁
That’s awesome! Stretch it for as long as possible! 🙏😎
Hello, Are you using an Intel IMac for your Music production? Im thinking about picking up one for fl studio since I tried m1 and it was working so badly so maybe intel would be better because optimisation?
Hey Jakub, I’m not sure why you had a bad experience with Apple Silicon. Maybe the system you tried had insufficient RAM, which created a bottleneck. I’d say give it another shot, maybe an M2 Pro system. Cheers!
Thanks so much! Extremely useful. My regular Mini M2 proved too slow with large string VSTs on Kontakt 7 and multiple audio tracks. Now that the M4 mini is out - will the pro M4 make a difference vs the regular M4, using Logic ?
Thanks for your comment! I am surprised to hear that you are having issues with your M2 set up. I’m suspecting that you may have insufficient RAM on your current system for your specific needs. Instead of upgrading to an M4 system, have you looked into trying to optimize your workflow with Kontakt? This may help you: ruclips.net/video/ao4CvtVZ1EM/видео.htmlsi=kFGszbgpbtxJQdg1
@ thanks, I’ll look into that! It had 16 gb of ram, already sold it, so the question is whether an M4 with 48 gb will be noticeably better…
@@allongroth7971 Oh yes, M4 with 48GB of integrated RAM will help - guaranteed. In doubt, I you can also check out this video about DAW optimization hacks: ruclips.net/video/-gtuCkxsERE/видео.html
@@allongroth7971go for 64 or more if you do big orchestral sessions! Some of my orchestral projects use up to 50gb of ram if it’s hybrid orchestral trailer music for example
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Very good information. Useful to ppl who actually work with sound editing
Thanks a lot! 🙏😎
you think that the 13 inch version of the macbook air m3 is still a valid option?
It’s a good option if you are planning on also getting an external display. Mixing on a tiny screen like that can be tiresome. It packs tons of power and will be less expensive, so you can save a little and get a decent monitor on marketplace!
@@OliBeaudoin thx for your answer. can you connect it to any monitor? got a lg 144hz one
@@staing2348 Yes, just use the appropriate connector. Since the MBAir has only USB4/TB4 ports, you'll need a HDMI or VGA to USB-C adapter like this: amzn.to/4dVOyyT
I was looking at an Apple Mac Studio M2 Ultra Chip 24 Core CPU 60 Core GPU 64GB RAM 1TB SSD. I imagine I can use my wireless mouse and keyboard from my 2017 iMac and get a decent $200 monitor. Do you think this would be adequate to run Ableton, Maschine, and Logic proX?
This is MUCH more than a capable system with the DAWs you mentioned. It’s very powerful for audio and even video as well since you’re opting for Ultra. This system should last you a long time. You will be saving money with the 200$ display, instead of buying equivalent specs on a laptop with built in display! 👍
would you reccommend the macbook pro 14 inch with 16 ram and 512 SSD? i saw you recommended the pro only with 16 inch display, and btw I'm thinking of buying a MacBook air m3 but i don't know if its enough considering the fanless situation there.
Hey Ron, yes an MBP with 14” is perfect. If you feel the display is a little small, you can simply connect an external monitor. For the MBAir, it is also a great option if you have AC or something to keep your room cool, so that it doesn’t go to thermal throttling.That’s from my personal experience with macs in general. Hope that helps!
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You’re welcome!
0:09 I had to click on that system overload dialogue coz by now it is part of the process of arranging music for me LOL
Been there 😅😂
No cracked AU / VST will work on M chips…?
Why would that be?
@@OliBeaudoin thats what i am asking you :) The only thing holding me back buying new iMac. Too many project done on them
@@dirtyharry6297 It’s always advisable to support software developers, but yes, cracks work on Apple Silicon systems as well 🏴☠️
Nice useful information for Mac Musicians! All great useful information. We’ll done !
Thanks a lot! Glad it was helpful!
Don't Audio Interfaces on Macs use Core Audio, ie no drivers required?
Core Audio is Mac built-in driver if you are not using any external interace. If you use an external interface, you'll be using the driver that works with that interface.
@@OliBeaudoin odd, my Behringer U-Phoria UMC 1820 for Windows advises downloading drivers. "For Mac users, no drivers are needed."
@ OSX has most drivers already, no it’s not always necessary to download them. Another cool with with Mac
I’m waiting for the M4 Mac Studio to come out. Working with a Windows workstation currently, which needs replacing in 1 to 2 years.
I’ll be doing the same Michael! 🙏
Awesome video !
I think I will buy the Macbook Air 15 but. I am just curious why do you recommand Air but not Pro ? I was looking at the specs and they look very similar. (I am currently on a dying Windows desktop but I want to switch and I dont know anything about Mac, I am using Ableton for music creation, recordings... so I dont need a war machine to support 900000000 tracks :))
Hey John, thanks for your comment! Yes, MBP and Air have similar specs. Since you’re not running crazy sessions, the Air should be more than enough for audio purposes only, but it has less ports, so you may need a hub/dock. Hope that helps!
Great video...super informative!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much!
I need help! I want to produce techno music & I‘m so confused if I should buy MacBook Pro 1TB or 512GB & also idk if I should choose 14 or 16 inch! Normally I like a bigger screen but everyone says for producing the 14 would be better??
Hey! I would get the 512GB SSD with 14” display. Then if you need it and can afford it, get an external display to have a more comfortable viewing experience when mixing and external SSD for saving your sessions and files other than your system files and apps. Hope that helps!
VERY useful and handson, thx mate!
Thanks a lot! Glad it was helpful!
This was very informative, thank you. If i were to load up a template in Maschine (128 vsts in total), plus plug olin effects etc, what mac mini or studio would cut it? Is a mac mini m2 pro capable and if so, what specs? My 2012 mbp 2.7 quad had no chance. I want to be able to pull sounds and play them simutaneously without skipping, i know the studio can run several hundred vsts, the minis though im not sure.
Thanks a lot for your comment. The 2012 MBP can’t stand this type of session indeed. I got one here and with recent OS+DAW versions, it’s having a hard time to handle a small-sized session, let alone 128+ VSTs and other cpu-intensive plugs. The M2 Pro mini should be more than OK with your current needs if you are running on a tight budget. You can also wait a few months for the new M4 MBP systems if you want extra longevity and a portable system. Hope that helps! 🙌🏼
I buy m3 max I don’t know if it’s good or not good
For audio purposes, it’s gonna do the job as long as your system has enough RAM for your specific needs.
@ thank you for replying my comment but i still don’t understand if its good for music production I work already over 30 Chanels it’s working well for now
@@alexwmarx Yes, it’s GREAT!
@ thanks 🙏
I already have a 21.5” iMac with keyboard and mouse, so I’m assuming the switch will be easy.
Is it really worth 375$ CAD to get the 12CPU core and 19 GPU core over the standard 10 CPU and 16GPU for the Mini M2Pro, for basic protools sessions?
Je me demande vraiment si ça vaut le prix et le temp d’attente.
Merci
Ps. Subbed after watching this video. Great job
Hey Carlos, thanks a lot for your question and sub!
My short answer would be, it depends how long you want to keep your system for and how heavy your average sessions are. I like to get my systems with high CPU specs. Are you doing video as well? If so, I’d say the 12/19 setup would be best. If not, perhaps get the 10/16 and save your money for the next upgrade. I’m stretching my current system here to make the jump straight to M4, but gotta admit it may be overkill. A M2 Pro 10/16 should still be a solid system for at least 5 years. Hope that helps!
@@OliBeaudoin no video, or very basic iMovie stuff. I use protools to record vocals and guitars.. never more than 24 tracks. No automation. Obviously 12 is better than 10 CPU but is it worth the 375$, I don’t believe it is for my usage. I had my iMac since 2016, and I’m thinking of keeping the mini for the next 3-5 years.
Ok, then go for the 10/16 setup. It’s gonna be LOT of horsepower for your needs! You can check for Marketplace deals as well to save extra dough. Sometimes you can even find systems still on AppleCare, with original invoice, etc. Hope that helps! 🙏
@@OliBeaudoin merci mon homme!
I am brand new to digital recording and was depending on the salesperson at Sweetwater to steer me in the right direction. So I purchased Studio One and I had just purchased a new MacBook Pro with M3
I already had the Focusrite i1820 and Octo-Pre
What are your thoughts on this set up.
My first roadblock seems there are less how to videos for learning Studio One vs other well known DAW’s
What are your thoughts on this set up? Should I switch DAW’s?
Presonus Studio One is a great DAW. It’s the one I use for mastering purposes because it has built-in Metadata for song export, which is really useful. They also keep on adding features, etc. In the end it’s about how fast is your workflow in any DAW, so most people stick with what they got used to, unless some crazy business move happened and they didn’t agree with new imposed subscription model for example (Avid Pro Tools). That’s also why I jumped ship to @steinberg Cubase. You have a solid setup right there and should be able to do A LOT with it.
For learning your DAW’s workflow, maybe in a few months when things calm down, I can work on a little tutorial for you to get you started!
Let me know if you ever max out your CPU with that killer laptop! 💻🙏😎
..just got air m3 500ssd 16 ram, its amazing, runs logic and cubase with no problems..im so happy with it..regards
Awesome Erik! This setup must be lightning fast!
Great Video ! Thank you ! I'm thinking about buying the MAC Studio M2 Max. Do you think I should wait for the M4 coming for the MAC Studio ?
been wondering the samething.. but don’t want to get stuck with sequoia
Thanks for your comment! I will be waiting for the M4 Mac Studio mid-2025 - it should be a real beast. If you can manage thing with your current system, I'd recommend to wait!
Yes, the thing is that these new machines come with the latest OS, no way around it.
@@OliBeaudoin Ok I will wait. Hope the price will be similar to the current Studio M2 Max? Thank you
@ it should be around the same price point and the performance increase you be pretty significant!
Great video. I am looking for a desktop Mac to run Ableton, Logic Pro, and Maschine. I own all three daws and I like to used them all. Can you recommend a good Mac? Peace!!!!
Glad you liked the video! If you’re not too tight on budget, I’d recommend the Mac Studio M2 Pro with 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD. If you’re not in a rush, wait for the release of the M4 desktop systems in a few months with similar specs. This will guarantee longevity and maximum power/speed for your studio. That’s what I’m planning on doing as well! 🙏😎
@@OliBeaudoin I was looking at this model: Apple Mac Studio M2 Ultra Chip 24 Core CPU 60 Core GPU 64GB RAM 1TB SSD. I imagine I can use my wireless mouse and keyboard from my 2017 iMac and get a decent $200 monitor.
How do I learn more about computers/laptops?
What do you mean more specifically?
Hello! Je veux me lancer dans le scoring donc est-ce que un Mac Studio m2 max 64g RAM est suffisant ? Ou vaut-il mieux attendre la sorti du Mac Studio M4?
Salut! Excellente question. En fait cela dépend de l’urgence de la situation pour l’achat du nouvel ordinateur. Si tu peux attendre encore environ six mois, les nouveaux Mac Mini et Studio M4 devrait sortir mi-2025. Avec les ordinateurs, c’est toujours la même chose: plus on attend le mieux c’est généralement. Tiens compte du fait que cette nouvelle génération sera très dispendieuse à la sortie. J’espère que cela répond à ta question. Pour ma part, je vais attendre à la mi-2025, car mon système est encore stable et suffisamment performant pour l’audio. 🙏
Cubase Elements 13 on PC dell with 64 gegs ram. Just fed up with poor performance when running with more Virtual instrument
Switching to an Apple Silicon M2 system with integrated RAM should help if you can spare the $$!
Hey Oli,
Can I buy a certified refurbished M1 pro 14/16 inch with 16GB RAM and 512 GB SSD( DAW - Logic pro) for portability as I have a pc already as my primary resource?
or let me know if there is there any better recommendations (Can Upgrade after 2-3 years if needed).
Thanks Oli this was really helpful video for me :)
Glad that the video was helpful. Depending on your session size, DSP load, and use of virtual instruments, a refurb M1 Pro with 16GB unified RAM should be more than enough to run an average mixing session - especially if you are using it as an alternate rig. It will for sure last you a good 3 years. I’d say go for it. I’d pick a 16”(more comfy if you are not planning on using it with an external display). Cheers!
A few other things that deserve a mention (on the Mac Studio at least). If you pick a 512GB Drive, they supply it on one chip. If you go for the 1TB, they supply it across 2 chips. The later version is faster read and write. The other things are, if you run out of RAM, it will start using your internal drive to make up the difference, which is slower. But the main thing is, if your system uses your internal drive for this purpose, it will wear out your drive quicker. Finally, Logic only uses the performance cores. So if you've got a 12 core M2, Logic will only use 8 of the cores (the other 4 are efficiency cores). And if I'm not mistaken, the M3 only has 6 performance cores and the rest are efficiency (Double on the Ultra of course).
Thanks for your comment. You are correct!
What about Mac Studio M1 Max with 10 core cpu / 32gb ram / ssd 512 ??
There’s any consistent difference form m1 to m3/m4 ?
Mac Studio M1 is still a very powerful machine for audio purposes. If you are not doing video and found a great deal on a system with these specs, I’d say go for it. There are differences between each (M1 to M4), note that the latest processors have more efficiency cores, so depending on the DAW that you are using it may not necessarily be advantageous since some DAWs don’t make use them to their full potential yet, like Logic.
@@OliBeaudoin yes I’m using Logic Pro x
@@amedeo2225 I'd say save some $$ and stick with the Mac Studio M1 then.
@@OliBeaudoin thank you very much 🙏
@@amedeo2225 You’re very welcome! 🙏
Amazing Knowledge thank you.
Glad it was helpful! 🙏😎
I locked in a Mac Studio M1 Max, 32gbRAM, 1tbSSD 🤗
Awesome JC! This should be a solid system for a while! 😎🙏
@@OliBeaudoinI was using REAPER because it was the only DAW my old laptop could handle. Now, with my new computing power, I'm planning to demo a few DAWs to find the one that suits my workflow best 🤔
@@jcpuga Reaper is pretty light indeed!
Never had a need for much ram with audio production. 16GB is enough for me. CPU and a decent SSD is much more important. 1TB minimum.
My next system will have 1TB internal SSD as well! 🙏
Great video. My only thing is that your thumbnail had the M1 Max Mac Studio which you did not go over very much. Maybe next time include some used Mac options.
Thanks for your comment! Noted. 🙏
Good Comments - I knew all of them but it is good to have these things confirmed. 😊
Thanks John!
@@OliBeaudoin I have always gone for as much RAM as I can afford at the time and then I’ve looked at storage.
My last Laptop was a 2013 MacBook Pro - a really good machine in its time but sadly it is now so long in tooth.
I was thinking of waiting on the M4 - I’d llove a Max Studio but I need lots of RAM.
I create Orchestral Templates so the more the merrier. 64GB would be ok I suppose but I’d prefer 128GB.
But only the Top Graphics beasts go that high with RAM…..
Mac Ultra…..
The issue is that you can't have 192 gigs WITHOUT buying the M2 Ultra...certain specs are limited to certain tiers...are they needed? Maybe not, but there isn't a choice...I think you should make that clear to people because it's not like Apple allows you to mix and match any CPU with whatever amount of RAM you need. I'll add, that I did not spend the extra money for the top GPU as it's not needed...but for me to get 192 gigs of RAM, I had to get the M2 Ultra.
Thanks for your comment. 192GB of integrated RAM on a M2 system is absolutely overkill for any music studio, even if you are running huge VSTi. Most mixers/producers will be just fine with 16GB. 32/64GB for users working on huge scores/orchestration. I understand your concern, but buying an M2 Ultra just to reach that 192 RAM capacity is not necessary. Better use that money for actual gear and/or plugins! 🙏
@@OliBeaudoin I run intensive VIs...for composing hybrid scores, 192 is not overkill at all, it's absolutely necessary...more so for many trailer scores. 64 is base minimum in my world. If you're doing a pop record, you may be able to get away with 16 gigs, but 32 is more ideal.
Je magasinais justement un nouveau Mac. Merci pour la vidéo.
Tu es le bienvenu Charles!
Ram hasnt really increased. I had 64 gigs of ram over 10 years ago
64 is plenty but integrated RAM is much more efficient
Your video editing is on point 👍
Good idea to use external SSDs.
Apple store upgrades to storage and RAM are extortionary so keeping it to minimum baseline specs saves a lot of money.
Now you have to do a video about best options for external drives and peripherals. 🤣
Thanks! That’s a good idea for another video! 😎🙏
Thanks for this video. Just gave it a +1 and subscribed.
I've just purchased a baseline Mac Mini M2 with 16Gb RAM and (❗) 256Gb storage - as a stop-gap machine to replace my 2015 iMac, while waiting for the M4's. Without knowing when they will be available I needed something to work on right now - to do piano performance videos while also going back to roots with the latest version of Logic Pro. This time round I also needed to factor in the cost of the Apple Studio Display (that's the one I wanted), so I've had to cut down on costs for the computer. As I start doing more score programming and more complex projects again, the M2 will be replaced with a higher up M4 (either Mini or Studio). And as I learn more about video animation, I could see myself using a Mac Studio.
In the meantime I'll see how things go with this M2 Mini. All of my software instruments will be stored externally ready for the next changeover where I may go back to having 512Gb as I did with the iMac. 🤞
Thanks for the comment and sub. You have a decent plan lined up right there. I will be getting an M4 Mac Studio/Mini as well when they are released and will be holding on to my current « dinosaur » 🦖 in the meantime 🤣
@@OliBeaudoin 😎
I'm running a Mac Pro M2 Ultra 64 gb of ram 1 tb ssd
Your system must be pretty fast with no bottlenecks! 🔥
With the Macbook, it is better to get the biggest internal SSD because it will prolong the life of the computer unless you know someone that can change the internal SSD.
1TB is a better choice indeed - it also has faster read/write speed!
Not to nitpick, but it’s “misled” not “mislead”.
Oops! 😅
The 512 SSD's are very often significantly SLOWER than the larger capacity SSDs.
Indeed, because larger SSDs have more NAND chips
you can gaolbreak macs to run whatever you want
If you mean "hackintosh", you can try it to make it work if you have a PC installing mac OS on it, but don't expect it to be 100% stable and working without any hassle.
@ nope, its all just code.
Better to go with PROART B550 creator+ 5700x CPU+ rmx 1000 psu+ 32 gb DDR4 RAM+ WD 1TB SSD+
Why?
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sounds like more of pain then use windows lol
Good summary. 👍
Thank you! Glad you liked the video! 🙏😎