@@John-Dennehy Read the literal title of the video. The only logical reasoning behind this ban could be (at least imo) "Children won't by reusable vapes, so the ban effectively shrinks the market.", but it actually just increases illegality from "You're too young." towards "You're in the wrong country.", which can only end up furthering illicit trade (as described here with the Snapchat courier).
@@whohan779 What absolute guff. The illicit trade will be absolutely tiny compared to the current market. For a large percentage of potential users the ease in which vapes are acquired determines to a large degree weather they begin vaping or take part or not. Take away the billions of vapes available and the market will be dramatically diminished along with the users. Something needs to be done right now so vaping doesn't become normalised and entrenched just as governments are about to take on the extremely complex task of ridding society of cigarette smoking. Fact: Society will never be able to stop people from being self destructive but making Nicotine supply part of the national health network is a common sense approach. Smoking costs society, tax payers billions of dollars per year in negative health outcomes. Its an industry of death.
They are not overall banning vaping, just the disposable vaping units. Read twice, comment once. (Disposable vapes to be banned and flavours limited to tackle ‘alarming’ rise in children vaping)
You realise big tobacco control a massive chunk of the vape market right? BAT alone corner 18% of the global market. By 2030 Phillip Morris hopes vape products will account for 80% of their sales. JUUL, Vype, Blu, Logic and many more are all owned by big tobacco.
it's actually because the NHS makes BANK from smokers. they make millions off of one cancer patient. You really care? then turn your disgust at the NHS who want you to be unhealthy.
@@littleboots9800 >JUUL, Vype, Blu, Logic and many more are all owned by big tobacco. Most people who vape, buy chinese company vapes, who are owned by a chinese company. And they buy vape juices, from independent vape juice companies. Might want to google these things called ''Mods'' my friend. big tobacco dont have their hands on them.
50p each lol used to be 10p from a shop by our school, with 3 matches included. There was a rusty railing in the alley where we went to smoke, which stayed dry even in rain, so we struck our matches on that. We called the railing ''old faithful''.
Go a take a look at Addiction rates & problems, how they poliferate over time (and cost the individual / healthcare system), and even the problem with the Disposable trash economy & how it Pollutes our world. Yes it d*mn well is important. Tunnel vision will not make lives better.
the home office has been trying to combat knife crime since 2010 (knife amnesties, COI campaigns, i can't remember the name of that one police OP that sort of worked but costed way too much), this is a single piece of legislation that got through parliament, knives have been through the: Offences against person act 1861 Offensive weapons act About 7 billion ammendments the police are still scared to stop and search for knives because if any person ever gets stopped and searched they are immediately a victim of police brutality and then that goes on social media and about 1k of taxpayer money gets wasted on an investigation that is immediately disproved by body-worn cameras, but that bit doesn't make good news, all about making people rage for attention these days, so then your head ends up on a spike on London Bridge. As another commenter said, one issue (a plastic tube that causes cancer) is a lot easier than an ever-evolving field with no public support whatsoever, until it's too late and another aspiring footballer, musician or heroin addict ends up being sent to the basement of a hospital.
I love how out of touch politicians are to think that adults don’t like fruit and/or dessert style flavours. Then again I never trust the reasoning Tories give for what they do, in reality it’s probably just an attempt to suck a little more happiness out of people’s lives.
I couldn't be further from liking the Tories or that idiot in charge but no one said adults don't like fruit and/or dessert flavours. The point is they attract younger children to use them and with that sweet taste it makes them think that there is nothing wrong with them and they aren't unhealthy, when they obviously are. I used to walk past a few kids smoking cigarettes from time to time, now near every crowd of kids I walk past has multiple kids smoking vapes.
@@cbc899 well that’s because our society has falsely conflated sweetness with healthiness. Mark my words, those kids’ll have far more problems from the 4 litres of Coke they guzzle each day than from vapes. Banning flavoured vapes tackles the symptom and ignores the cause.
Sweet flavours will likely still be available, just not in disposables. Most kids I see vaping are not using the kind of refillable mods adults are using. That requires an initial spend on the unit, some coils and juice which takes the cost out of 'pocket money' range. Disposables on the other hand can be bought very cheap, 3 for a fiver in discount shops by me. They're also cool looking and easy to conceal in a hand or small pocket. Vaping was the only thing that got me to quit smoking after many years and I appreciate the government's promotion of vaping as a smoking cessation tool but these disposables have little to no impact on smoking cessation. Most ex smokers vape using refillable devices, kids who've never smoked use disposables.
I am sick finding empty vapes ending in the street under car tyres, pavement, everywhere although it contains batteries and this causing pollution to our planet. Disgusting
So what needs to happen is stricter enforcement of anti-littering laws, not the banning of disposable vapes. If it isn't disposable vapes it'll just be cig butts, or burned coils from reusables, or empty pods from reusables, or any of the other litter completely unrelated to nicotine products.
There's reusables with disposable pods. Gets rid of the hassle of coils, juice, etc but not wasting batteries (rechargeable). Assuming pods won't be banned, but we'll see.
I failed many times to quit smoking. I managed to switch to vaping and only use pink lemonade flavour. If they ban mine I risk going back to smoking. Ban cigarettes before you ban vaping they are much worse for your health.
rechargeable vapes are still available to adults. it sucks that people got kids hooked on something that should just be for adults, and now we cant have the cheap easy version
they're banning vapes that ex-smokers enjoy, despite them being pitched as 99% healthier than smoking tobacco...... strange world we live in, i quit vaping a month ago and yes it's hard but it got me off cigs for years and years..... the key was nice flavours and this government should be focussed on more important issues, like the post office scandal or all the other injustice that happens in the country
The vape craze 'fashion' has not been in use long enough to be considered 99% healthier than inhaling burning tobacco products Any foreign particulates people inhale can be classed as 'unhealthy' There is a rise in people getting pulmonary fungal infections etc, not suggesting it has anything to do with vaping, but early days yet.
Aunt Sally keeps saying our country when in fact this isn't his country his domain is in India so he says then he says his domain is in America where he has a mansion and a green card now his wife is getting hundreds of thousands of pounds from the taxepayers for her company this is the second time she will have been given millions for her business he may book his flight to America sooner like now rather than later i don't understand why the RF doesn't intervene in his own way he keeps giving his wife and father in-law millions of our money for their companies it's downright appalling and it's a conflict of interest get him to feck out of here
Ban cigarettes ban vapes why not ban drinking or fast food ,sweets so if you are a child and buy vapes I got to suffer for it .When I was a child every kid had a pen knife mums and dads would buy you a knife you didn’t go out and stab anyone now I can’t carry a knife .it time the parents start taking control of there children and stop moaning about the kids of today because they will be the parents of the future god help you then I will be ok as I am a old man and will be long gone by that time
15 year old in my school days i swear where like adults, cherry popped, smoking, confident, driving cars, self assured, could handle social situations. Now everything is banned and is criminal no wonder they got anxiety, mental health problems. We are stressing them out.
making childhood longer isnt a bad thing. it gives people more time to learn and develop. once you become an adult socially, you slow down all that kind of thing
do you feel that way when kids can buy cheap pills and hurt themselves? that its the parents fault and we shouldnt do anything to lower the availability?
Big Tobacco controls much of the vape market. JUUL, Logic, Blu, Vype and many more are all owned by Tobacco firms. British American Tobacco controls 18% of the global market already. Phillip Morris have a goal of 80% of sales coming from vapes and alternative nicotine delivery systems by 2030. The idea that the two industries are pitted against each other is silly. In reality its independent vape companies trying to keep a foothold in a market increasingly dominated by big tobacco and disreputable Chinese companies pushing out cheaply made, toxic vapes and liquids assembled by workers in crappy conditions.
@@littleboots9800 bullshit. All of those you mentioned are banned. All the top vaping brands are small company owned. By this logic cigarettes and alcohol should be banned too and gambling
Soo.. they’re banning something us adults are legally allowed to buy but CHILDREN are already buying illegally from adults buying them FOR them? Hmm how is that going to help? Adults will still buy reusable vapes and sell them illegally to kids. Congrats you really solved that issue !
What absolute guff. The illicit trade will be absolutely tiny compared to the current market. For a large percentage of potential users the ease in which vapes are acquired determines to a large degree weather they begin vaping or take part or not. Take away the billions of vapes available and the market will be dramatically diminished along with the users. Something needs to be done right now so vaping doesn't become normalised and entrenched just as governments are about to take on the extremely complex task of ridding society of cigarette smoking. Fact: Society will never be able to stop people from being self destructive but making Nicotine supply part of the national health network is a common sense approach. Smoking costs society, tax payers billions of dollars per year in negative health outcomes. Its an industry of death.
@@bottomendbliss so what about the millions of ex smokers of cigarettes who use vaping as a way to exit and decrease their cigarette consumption ie decreasing the amount of people consuming harmful cigarettes which has an effect on the health services? Using a vape has been a method of smokers transitioning away from consistent cigarette use. Now this could potentially lead those to have less access to alternative methods of giving up smoking?
@@RM-vz3ly Access to vapes and all alternative nicotine products will still be widely and easily available to all smokers of legal age through pharmacy's.
@@montybarrington2732 Not sure about there but here Mdma, acid, and pills are practically impossible to get unless you spend time getting kicked out of clubs for grovelling for drugs. Even weed is a pain to find. Its annoying not being able to get party favours occasionally. The margin on drugs makes the risk worthwhile for dealers, vapes wont be worth the risk to many. Plus having to store and carry a box of vapes to deal is nonsense. Of course some will have a system of supply that will work but that will be minor compared to the blanket availability we have now.
@r-urbex1611 I've asked my doctors multiple times if I can be prescribed it to manage anxiety, and help with mental health, always been told no. I used to use it illegally for years, but on the street you can't be sure of what strain you'll get, and if it's grown properly, and most of it is unnaturally high THC, not enough CBD, would you mind telling, how did you get prescribed weed in the UK?
I have a corner shop and sell vapes legally. We understand our responsibility as a business to safegaurd kids from buying vapes. But we have experienced, parents buying vapes for their own underage kids and are comfortable seeing their kids smoking , drinking and getting pregnant in their teens, looks like society at large are being asked to take care of some families fault. If there were lawful consequences for both the seller and the buyer of any illegal items , I think we might see a change .
@@maxheadroom224Nothing to do with diversity mate. I'm from a country with very little diversity and it has the same problem. Shitty parenting is what we need to tackle.
They're kids as if banning disposable vapes will stop them from vaping it won't not only that we have more important things the government should be working on fixing. You know like fixing poverty in the UK, fixing housing prices, the cost of living i can go on forever.
vapes can be much, much stronger than cigarettes, cheap, and easy to get think drinking vodka every day as a kid vs getting your hands on the occasional beer. kids are doing real harm to themselves with this and becoming addicted.
Better they smoke vapes than cigarettes. Think this generation fortunate they have them and take advantage of the cleaner evolution of consuming nicotine compared to cigarettes.
Well they're buying them from dealers on snapchat not shops because they're not old enough anyway. I think parents need to parent better unfortunately. If your 9 year old is vaping you've failed miserably.
marketing to children is done with bright colours and dessert flavours. look at the drinks section and see if you can spot the ones that kids WANT when they see them
God sake, I’m law abiding, don’t drink, don’t gamble. My life is miserable enough as it is, I can’t buy a house, work all the hours god sends…. I like to vape, leave me something
Rubbish! Young people have been smoking long before vapes were around. When I was in primary school about 20 odd years ago there were a number of kids in my year who smoked. It's all down to parenting.
@AirstripOne-nd4du it's what gets kids attracted to vaping. I'm not talking about pre-existing vapers. Teenage girls wouldn't be attracted to picking up an ugly green vape in the same way they would a pink, cherry flavour cute vape. I have Teenage girls. Idgaf about 40 year old nicotine addicts (like myself), but if making them ugly can prevent new users from picking one up its worth it. I am aware that some young people will always smoke just out of rebelliousness but vaping is out of control and kids that otherwise wouldn't be able to afford cigarettes can afford a vape which isn't good and the fact that they have become a fashion accessory also is a big draw to young smokers.
@lee9650 trouble is now the majority vape rather than just a few. I remember kids back in the day buying singles from the corner shops. Some will always do it, and I agree with your parenting point. My 16-year-old daughter doesn't vape but some of her friends do.
@dawnsherratt2317 it's the flavours themselves that is at fault in that case, you can have a cherry flavoured vape and make the packing brown but it's still a cherry flavoured in the end of the day
Biggest issue to me is the 20mg amount of nicotine in disposables. The max amount in a disposable should be far less, you're basically addicted after a single disposable it's far too much nicotine that is only really suitable for very heavy smokers.
I mean I use to be a heavy smoker, 30 - 40 roll ups a day sometimes more. Vaping has pretty much saved me from dying in my 30's but I can somewhat understand the disposable vape ban in some aspects. What annoys me the most is people picking up this habit when they've never smoked a cigarette in their lives. Smoking is not cool it is highly addictive and my lungs are fucked from chain smoking for years. I did however like how convenient it was to buy the disposable ones they're easy to use, just take them out the packet and away you go. It's just a shame that stupid children and mindless parenting has ruined this. It's mad though how the cost of living is sky rocketing, housing is fucked, crime on an all time high and they're deciding to ban vapes. clown world, always will be.
kids buying sweet things in bright colours .. they arent stupid. they're targeted agressively, and theyre not old enough to realise the harm. that bit of your brain isnt finished developing until age 25.
They are not banning vaping, just the planet munching disposables, they should ban anything that says 'disposable' aka 'wastable' I mean you get some kids moaning on about adults wasting things, but oh no not kids wasting vapes that have perfectly serviceable rechargeable Lion batteries, yes disposable vapes do have rechargeable cell as they are cheaper to produce !
But people will just have to get used to non banned flavours, bit like removing/banning TEL from petrol, but there are even more millions of cars on the road since then😎 @@davewright9313
this is a trap. anyway i hope adult vapers in the UK are well stocked with their non-disposable vape gear, and that they have solid connections to their favorite flavors.
As a smoker .I agree with the plan to make a smoke and free generation ... But on the other side ..as an adult if bright colours and fruit flavours are what I want to buy then I should be able to . Just because someone else has the belief that they (bright colours and fruits flavour )only appeal to children then they are categorically wrong
But why should adults like myself who has been vaping for 8 years be punished for it? yes i mainly vape my tank, bt disposables r useful,, god i hope they don't bring in a juice flavor ban
Why are most people in the comments talking about all vapes being banned? It's only disposable vapes. It's crazy that we produce so many batteries to create these devices and they're thrown away only when the fluid is empty. The battery has tonnes of life left in it. Vaping seems alright, but disposable vapes? I'd be grateful if someone could justify how that makes sense.
So shouldn't they come to a conclusion with big time disposable vape makers to make the battery last its life etc the 9000 puffs or higher ofc the ingredients is a problem lead poisoning etc but banning disposables as a whole for kids that will change to cigarettes or rechargeable vapes is abit extreme rishi wants a smoke free generation u heard him but that isn't even possible the only way that is possible is for everyone to be banned from any smoking cigarettes and vapes but that wouldn't stop weed so once again he would fail 😅😂
Just came back from Asia where in the majority of countries I visited, vaping and e-cigarettes are banned. This merely forces ex smokers to use tobacco products again. I hope that the government will be careful about pushing people back into cigarettes as that is far more harmful. Additionally, young people (including myself when I was young) have always had access to illegal tobacco, smoking underage was always an issue. Removing legal disposable vapes will either push young people to use dangerously illegal vapes or just take up smoking.
Step 1. Get a generation of kids hooked on nicotine. Step 2. Ban vapes Step 3. Profit How quick were the UK GOV on banning a certain breed of dog recently? Vapes have been around for years. Too little too late!
As usual it's become a disposable rubbish issue they still can't use bins!!!!!! They won't ban cigarettes or alcohol, unfortunately I've just heard from a disposable vape shop owner, that the illegal vapes are flooding the market and giving his shops a bad name. I could guarantee if cigarettes came in the colours of rainbows and the packet as well, they'd still smoke it. Rushing should be addressing more pressing issues, plus the disposable vapes are so expensive where is the money coming from????? 🌞
I was vaping outside work, these two girls walked past, and I overheard their conversation about trying to find the bakery they could smell. I gave them the bad news that it was my caramel biscuit liquid the could smell and not a bakery 😆
cigarettes are still available after all the legislation reduction that happened. Why can’t the same be done with vapes. Its a massive industry of taxable income for the country. Make them more expensive, Plain packaging sold behind the counter. Why is it a straight ban for vapes?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with refillables.if only people weren't so damn lazy. I don't c why disposables shouldn't b banned. But also refillable devices etc must b made better and more reliable. Dunno about healthier but certainly cheaper which is all I care about, apart from it being reliable - which at moment alot of the devices on the market is not.
@@aceman0000099 I don't care so much about healthier tbh. If ciggies weren't so damn expensive nowadays, I'd still b smoking. My main problem with vaping is that the devices including coils etc r so damn unreliable.
@@cheedevulan8547what do you mean unreliable? Back in the days coils were junk, often doa, but not so much anymore. Any decent 50-80$ mod should be reliable enough for day to day.
Why not raise the legal age for purchase of cigarettes and vapes one year every year... anyone not old enough to legally smoke will never legally buy them and smoking would be wiped out. Of course so would tobacco taxation.
As someone who is 19 and first vaped when I was 14. Which was the time it started becoming appealing to teenagers. It is not the packaging and it’s not the flavouring. I don’t understand why they think teenagers are 5 yr olds who are attracted to bright colours. The appeal is because of the societal environment in school. When I first did it. It felt so devious and cool. The appeal is how it’s illegal and so easy to get. It’s also super addictive. In recent times kids younger than me seem to like the idea of collecting them as a way to show off. It’s a way for teenagers to feel “grown” or “cool” I think the issue is, it’s a gateway for teenagers to do other drugs. Like smoking weed. I hang around skate parks and the amount of 8 yr olds I see rolling zoots and using vapes is shocking. Vaping also has created more crime in youth. It’s a gateway to many things. I’m seeing a lack of control in parents for teens younger than me. And honestly it’s become a nuisance and it’s embarrassing the way teens act now. Someone recently got killed by a under 16 at my skatepark. like I said I hang out at skateparks with people my age so this is what I see in public as a older youth. I don’t think older generations have any idea how bad it is. Should talk to more older teens to get our perspective as we was the ones that first got onto it.
Anyway disposables are fucking disgusting, reusables are more superior and I doubt most kids will be able to buy normal cigarettes. And your more likely to get caught. The problem is the scale. When I was in secondary in 2015 people used to smoke cigarettes but it was a small amount of teens. And they did it in secret. Now imagine that but a bunch of girls/boys in a toilet. No doubt it would set a fire alarm, you can smell it too, in ur breath too. So I don’t think teens wanna risk that. Vapes are so easy and accessible to hide. And when I was in school we used to send of someone who was the tallest and looked the oldest but now. Anyone can get them despite how you look. You can even buy them in your uniform.
yeah, kids harming themselves is something we need to try and stop. unfortunately theyre getting their hands on these really easy, and using them so much they hurt themselves
as a young persons heres me 2pence, vapes are incredibly easy to buy. And the way they're displayed and the flavouring does contribute to wanting more. I myself vape only to try and avoid smoking but i consistently vape which is my issue atm. I think their should be private sellers who only have access to these vapes and have gone through basic training to ensure the consequences if they are sold illegally. Also helps tbh if their wasnt so many addictive flavours and keep the flavouring to a minimum.
Horse has already bolted. This issue should've been tackled long before it took hold and now it can't be removed. But I'm sure the tobacco company profits and taxes were too juicy to resist before it became a more talked about issues.
I'm 35. I never smoked. I tried it a couple times when I was drunk, but never been a smoker. I lived with someone who vaped and found it enjoyable and went from having one for a bit on a night out in the smoking area. Now i'm lowkey hooked on vapes. Which is tragic I know haha. I have a real sweet tooth. I have been looking forward to this and vowed to not by a rechargeable vape. So this ban will be the good time for me to stop vaping.
@@perseus431he doesn’t seem to be the sharpest, instead of buying a rechargeable which is cheaper and better for the environment he paid premium prices for disposables.
Myself (16) I know plenty of boys and girls that I ask them why do you vape and they say something along the lines of I like the taste or it and the packaging is 100% made to attract the eyes of kids.
It’s a shame how government make money from the death of your children. If I was the government, I would ban all companies that make alcohol or cigarettes.
Why didnt they just add an age restriction law to them instead of going to this extreme? I dont smoke and i dont vape but i know vapes are a good way to help real smokers stop.
@@SerendipityChild well then if they are going to outright remove these things why dont they just do the same with cigarettes because the kids get their hands on those aswell..
@@Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer short version: its hard to get rid of things that have been around for centuries. if we invented alcohol today there is 0% chance it would be allowed to be marketed and consumed. it causes damage to literally every tissue and organ .. but we are used to it and the entities that make it are very wealthy and powerful. likewise, tobacco lobbies. fortunately, cigarettes are much harder for kids to get and to use. a disposable vape doesnt need a lighter, doesnt need re-filling, doesnt need a charger, can be concealed in a pencilcase because an entire packet of cigarette equivalent is the size of a pencil. and vapes are cheap .. in my country, australia, I bought 50 draw vapes for $1 each ten years ago putting barriers between kids and vapes doesnt mean unexposed kids will necessarily try cigarettes instead. vapes are so very popular because they are easier, cheaper, more stealthy, more convenient that smokes. conversely, allowing excessive vape use in children _will_ cause life-long addiction. like energy drinks or vodka: vapes are so strong its easy to consume so much you harm yourself
*there are too many You want the plural "are" because you're referring to plural "vapes" not singular "vape" as in "There is a dodgy vape on the counter." And “too” is an adverb. It can be used to replace words such as “excessively”, “additionally”, “as well” or “also”. “To”, on the other hand, is a versatile preposition that can be used in various situations and contexts. It's used to indicate a direction, like “toward” and “until”.
This is not what needs to happen. Banning disposables is just handing the market to criminals in the same way as illegal drugs, instead of being able to regulate the market by keeping it above board, this market has become impossible to regulate. All these pre-existing illegal vapes containing various things they shouldn't contain will become much more common as a result. If disposables were instead properly regulated in terms of where shops purchase vapes in bulk from, making sure that the companies selling vapes to shop chains have to go through some form of testing process to make sure they aren't providing illegal vapes to shops, there would be far less of these illegal vapes on the market. I also think something that should be in place is shops needing a license to sell nicotine products, this is already a thing for alcohol, some would argue nicotine products are worse than alcohol, so why do shops not need a license to sell them? This would stop every random corner shop from carrying vapes, and make it easier to ensure the vapes being sold meet the proper legal standards. Disposable vapes deserve to be on the legal market. Smokers are used to buying a pack, opening it, pulling out a cigarette, lighting it, and using it until it's done. With disposables you just buy it, take it out its packaging, and use it until it's done. It's a very similar level of convenience. With reusables you have to choose a specific kind of device, choose a liquid, buy several refill liquids and replacement coils, regularly refill the vape and replace coils, deal with coils burning, deal with potential leaking issues, regularly charge it, and make sure you charge it properly. Much less convenient, therefore much more of a potential turnoff for people looking to move from smoking to vaping. Disposables are a very essential bridge. As for banning flavours, this should not be done at all. The wide variety of flavours to choose from is another thing that attracts smokers looking to quit. I don't believe that mango vapes being on the market is going to make children who don't already vape want to start. What should be banned is dumb flavour names, such as "Unicorn Vomit", as the argument for these names being more attractive to young people holds a lot more weight as far as I'm concerned. Flavours should just be called what they taste like. On the topic of some pre-existing vape related laws I think should not be in place: Refillable vapes being limited to 2ml tanks, as this just increases inconvenience for the user due to more frequent refills. Liquid refills with nicotine being limited to 10ml bottles, as this is even more inconvenient, one bottle is only 5 refills, you have to buy and carry more. Nicotine content in vapes being limited to 20mg/ml (2%), regardless of whether it's salt, freebase, or hybrid nicotine. This limit is simply too low for users who may be wanting to switch over from smoking several packs a day, and increases inconvenience as you have to mix your own liquid to go over that limit. In combination with the previous restriction listed, it also worsens the shortfill loophole that restriction neccessitated. For those unaware, shortfill liquids are sold in 100ml bottles without nicotine, then a 10ml bottle containing no flavour and the desired percentage of nicotine is sold alongside it and mixed together after purchase. Even if this 10ml flavourless bottle is at 2% nicotine, it gets diluted to roughly 0.2%, making it unviable for anyone who isn't an incredibly light user with no history of smoking. And finally, as for the proposal to raise the smoking age by one year every year until nobody can buy cigarettes, this too will push a legal regulated market into an unregulated market ran by criminals. The legal age should stay at 18, no lower, no higher. If you're old enough for the government and legal system to see you as an adult, you should be considered old enough to decide what you want to put into your own body.
We have had these flavours for years and before pods were a thing. And to go after flavours when you can't refill pods is just an excuse. The government is obviously missing the money/payoff from b8g tobacco
The good old days are gone. I remember going to the corner candy store in Philadelphia,Pennsylvania, USA 🇺🇸 to buy Lucky Strikes for my mother at 35 cents a pack.
Prohibition has always worked really well historically and definitely won’t lead to unregulated vapes that explode or poison you.
Regulation isn't the same as prohibition
@@John-Dennehy Read the literal title of the video. The only logical reasoning behind this ban could be (at least imo) "Children won't by reusable vapes, so the ban effectively shrinks the market.", but it actually just increases illegality from "You're too young." towards "You're in the wrong country.", which can only end up furthering illicit trade (as described here with the Snapchat courier).
so you're saying darwinism?
i see a win-win.
@@whohan779 you unironically think there's going to be a black market for a fucking juul?....grow up. just get your mate to buy you a fucking mod.
@@whohan779 What absolute guff. The illicit trade will be absolutely tiny compared to the current market. For a large percentage of potential users the ease in which vapes are acquired determines to a large degree weather they begin vaping or take part or not. Take away the billions of vapes available and the market will be dramatically diminished along with the users. Something needs to be done right now so vaping doesn't become normalised and entrenched just as governments are about to take on the extremely complex task of ridding society of cigarette smoking. Fact: Society will never be able to stop people from being self destructive but making Nicotine supply part of the national health network is a common sense approach. Smoking costs society, tax payers billions of dollars per year in negative health outcomes. Its an industry of death.
The ban didn’t stop people from drinking it won’t stop vaping either
Vaping isn’t being banned, just the sale of disposable vapes.
@@Steven-vo4ee And most flavours.
They are not overall banning vaping, just the disposable vaping units.
Read twice, comment once.
(Disposable vapes to be banned and flavours limited to tackle ‘alarming’ rise in children vaping)
@@Gazr965 Whats alarming is that our personal liberties are be stolen from us.
@@Gazr965 so I like the flavours . Why should I have to go with out
"Worried about childrens health "
If worried about children's health,we wouldn't have starving kids and suffering from poverty.
worried about children who are soon to be a part of the new voting demographics.
what we need is some fines, that will protect and inspire the next generation... these people are way out of touch.
So we can't tackle this because of other issues?
Worry about vapes .More important issues.Such as knife crime. Young kids killing each other. The country is a joke.
The mental health of children has plummeted on average 😢
Sunak probably invested in tobacco stock.... It wouldn't surprise me
Sunak is busy fasting at the start of the week and supporting genocide thereafter. He probably needs some weed.
You realise big tobacco control a massive chunk of the vape market right? BAT alone corner 18% of the global market. By 2030 Phillip Morris hopes vape products will account for 80% of their sales. JUUL, Vype, Blu, Logic and many more are all owned by big tobacco.
it's actually because the NHS makes BANK from smokers.
they make millions off of one cancer patient.
You really care? then turn your disgust at the NHS who want you to be unhealthy.
@@littleboots9800 >JUUL, Vype, Blu, Logic and many more are all owned by big tobacco.
Most people who vape, buy chinese company vapes, who are owned by a chinese company.
And they buy vape juices, from independent vape juice companies.
Might want to google these things called ''Mods'' my friend. big tobacco dont have their hands on them.
Or his wife did and he covered it up 🍿👀
Ban fat acceptance
Ban @maykolee acceptance ;)
ban fat shaming.
How is this relevant to vapes?
Health I would imagine
hahahahahahaha
Headline should read: UK to create vast black market for disposible vapes.
ok Einstein sure.
Prohibition is just fucking dumb... the black market will thank these politicians.
BLACK MARKET FOR STRAWBERRY VAPE JUICE..... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no
Elf bars bout to go from £5 each to £10
Its to stop kids so dont be so stupid .i bet you vape dont you lol
@@BonnyBrown Same with crystal bars?
All a scam, Loosing out on cigarette sales,Kids will be back to buying single cigarettes for 50pence from a knock off corner shop .
50p each lol used to be 10p from a shop by our school, with 3 matches included. There was a rusty railing in the alley where we went to smoke, which stayed dry even in rain, so we struck our matches on that. We called the railing ''old faithful''.
@@simonh6371 The 10prnce single park drive cigarettes have long gone.
Some places sell single cigarettes for £1 nowadays, cheap duty free cigarettes.
@@simonh6371 Use to pinch the England glory matches,from the teachers smoking room,for cigarettes to smoke back of the school field, good old days....
Will be a pound each as cigs cost 14 pound a pack 20 now
50p wouldn't be much of a profit margin per cigarette these days.
id say 90 % of adults vape flavors as tobacco flavors taste awful the flavors are not directed at kids they have been around for years
the liquids sold outside of the eu/uk taste much better. smoother as well. might be partially related to larger reservoir/coil sizes.
Good. Those disposable vapes are horrendous for the environment
And THIS is the MOST important issue of GREAT Britain..... HONESTLY.... GIVE ME A BREAK😮
No smoking break for you.
if they talk about war or the economy, you will call it all a hoax, and ask them to focus on health issues.
Go a take a look at Addiction rates & problems, how they poliferate over time (and cost the individual / healthcare system), and even the problem with the Disposable trash economy & how it Pollutes our world. Yes it d*mn well is important. Tunnel vision will not make lives better.
Who said it was?
you can care about more than one thing at once. yes, kids having easy access and hurting themselves with addictive vapes is a health issue
Yeah ignore the growing knife crime and control vapes….
One issue is far easier to control than the other.
the home office has been trying to combat knife crime since 2010 (knife amnesties, COI campaigns, i can't remember the name of that one police OP that sort of worked but costed way too much), this is a single piece of legislation that got through parliament, knives have been through the:
Offences against person act 1861
Offensive weapons act
About 7 billion ammendments
the police are still scared to stop and search for knives because if any person ever gets stopped and searched they are immediately a victim of police brutality and then that goes on social media and about 1k of taxpayer money gets wasted on an investigation that is immediately disproved by body-worn cameras, but that bit doesn't make good news, all about making people rage for attention these days, so then your head ends up on a spike on London Bridge.
As another commenter said, one issue (a plastic tube that causes cancer) is a lot easier than an ever-evolving field with no public support whatsoever, until it's too late and another aspiring footballer, musician or heroin addict ends up being sent to the basement of a hospital.
@@Steven-vo4eeban knives.
@@50_Pence Knives are a necessity, disposable vapes are not.
@@Steven-vo4ee you're not tacking the root of the problem. Ban breathing
I love how out of touch politicians are to think that adults don’t like fruit and/or dessert style flavours. Then again I never trust the reasoning Tories give for what they do, in reality it’s probably just an attempt to suck a little more happiness out of people’s lives.
I couldn't be further from liking the Tories or that idiot in charge but no one said adults don't like fruit and/or dessert flavours.
The point is they attract younger children to use them and with that sweet taste it makes them think that there is nothing wrong with them and they aren't unhealthy, when they obviously are.
I used to walk past a few kids smoking cigarettes from time to time, now near every crowd of kids I walk past has multiple kids smoking vapes.
@@cbc899 well that’s because our society has falsely conflated sweetness with healthiness. Mark my words, those kids’ll have far more problems from the 4 litres of Coke they guzzle each day than from vapes. Banning flavoured vapes tackles the symptom and ignores the cause.
That will be great 😊
Sweet flavours will likely still be available, just not in disposables. Most kids I see vaping are not using the kind of refillable mods adults are using. That requires an initial spend on the unit, some coils and juice which takes the cost out of 'pocket money' range. Disposables on the other hand can be bought very cheap, 3 for a fiver in discount shops by me. They're also cool looking and easy to conceal in a hand or small pocket.
Vaping was the only thing that got me to quit smoking after many years and I appreciate the government's promotion of vaping as a smoking cessation tool but these disposables have little to no impact on smoking cessation. Most ex smokers vape using refillable devices, kids who've never smoked use disposables.
This is best thing that’s happened this year.
Yeah well ALCOHOL is also in bright coloured fruity packaging but we still aren’t allowed and don’t sell it to children
look up the average age of STARTING drinking in your country
I am sick finding empty vapes ending in the street under car tyres, pavement, everywhere although it contains batteries and this causing pollution to our planet. Disgusting
I agree I live by the sea and I'm always finding them on the beach. 😢
So what needs to happen is stricter enforcement of anti-littering laws, not the banning of disposable vapes. If it isn't disposable vapes it'll just be cig butts, or burned coils from reusables, or empty pods from reusables, or any of the other litter completely unrelated to nicotine products.
Well, guess I'll go back to smoking cigs again then...
Or buy a reusable vape
Or you could just quit. Done it myself, haven’t smoked / vaped since 2016. Had smoked then vaped for over 20 years.
Or just use a vape... you know.. the 100s of the ones that aren't banned.
@@reallymakesyouthink I have a reusable, a decent one at that, just got sick of buying coils and juice and the mess associated with it.
There's reusables with disposable pods. Gets rid of the hassle of coils, juice, etc but not wasting batteries (rechargeable). Assuming pods won't be banned, but we'll see.
I failed many times to quit smoking. I managed to switch to vaping and only use pink lemonade flavour. If they ban mine I risk going back to smoking. Ban cigarettes before you ban vaping they are much worse for your health.
rechargeable vapes are still available to adults. it sucks that people got kids hooked on something that should just be for adults, and now we cant have the cheap easy version
they're banning vapes that ex-smokers enjoy, despite them being pitched as 99% healthier than smoking tobacco...... strange world we live in, i quit vaping a month ago and yes it's hard but it got me off cigs for years and years..... the key was nice flavours and this government should be focussed on more important issues, like the post office scandal or all the other injustice that happens in the country
It got me off cigarettes too
thats the brauty of having a foreign prime minister
You can still vape... just not a disposable vape.
The vape craze 'fashion' has not been in use long enough to be considered 99% healthier than inhaling burning tobacco products
Any foreign particulates people inhale can be classed as 'unhealthy'
There is a rise in people getting pulmonary fungal infections etc, not suggesting it has anything to do with vaping, but early days yet.
How did ya quit vapes?
Vaping is not a priority, Knives are.
You would think that
Aunt Sally keeps saying our country when in fact this isn't his country his domain is in India so he says then he says his domain is in America where he has a mansion and a green card now his wife is getting hundreds of thousands of pounds from the taxepayers for her company this is the second time she will have been given millions for her business he may book his flight to America sooner like now rather than later i don't understand why the RF doesn't intervene in his own way he keeps giving his wife and father in-law millions of our money for their companies it's downright appalling and it's a conflict of interest get him to feck out of here
Its just lucky that the government hasn't got anything important to sort out at the moment
It is pretty unconservative not killing kids with addictive poisonous products made by their friends
Everything is banned in the UK
Ban cigarettes ban vapes why not ban drinking or fast food ,sweets so if you are a child and buy vapes I got to suffer for it .When I was a child every kid had a pen knife mums and dads would buy you a knife you didn’t go out and stab anyone now I can’t carry a knife .it time the parents start taking control of there children and stop moaning about the kids of today because they will be the parents of the future god help you then I will be ok as I am a old man and will be long gone by that time
Pretty sure we fought against facism in the 40s
aww lost your mary? 😭
yeah, how dare we stop kids having addictions and fucking up their lungs
15 year old in my school days i swear where like adults, cherry popped, smoking, confident, driving cars, self assured, could handle social situations. Now everything is banned and is criminal no wonder they got anxiety, mental health problems. We are stressing them out.
making childhood longer isnt a bad thing. it gives people more time to learn and develop. once you become an adult socially, you slow down all that kind of thing
Should BAN LOOPHOLES USED BY THE WEALTHY YET THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM?
They pay handsomely for those loopholes.
Politicians also use them.
They ain’t going nowhere
@@christinaedwards5084 taxpayers should make politicians end such loopholes?
Nanny state nonsense. Disposable vapes have superior taste with greater ease of use. Not going back to the way it was.
easy .. exactly. kids are using them
Again adult freedoms must be curtailed because parents can't parent their children 🙄
I wish those in government cared as much as they pretend.
Good point, a lot of parents these days behave like children anyway😎
do you feel that way when kids can buy cheap pills and hurt themselves? that its the parents fault and we shouldnt do anything to lower the availability?
Big tobacco lobbying at work.
Big Tobacco controls much of the vape market. JUUL, Logic, Blu, Vype and many more are all owned by Tobacco firms. British American Tobacco controls 18% of the global market already. Phillip Morris have a goal of 80% of sales coming from vapes and alternative nicotine delivery systems by 2030. The idea that the two industries are pitted against each other is silly. In reality its independent vape companies trying to keep a foothold in a market increasingly dominated by big tobacco and disreputable Chinese companies pushing out cheaply made, toxic vapes and liquids assembled by workers in crappy conditions.
@@littleboots9800 Well done for educating the people in the comments!
Facts
@@littleboots9800 bullshit. All of those you mentioned are banned. All the top vaping brands are small company owned. By this logic cigarettes and alcohol should be banned too and gambling
Soo.. they’re banning something us adults are legally allowed to buy but CHILDREN are already buying illegally from adults buying them FOR them? Hmm how is that going to help? Adults will still buy reusable vapes and sell them illegally to kids. Congrats you really solved that issue !
What absolute guff. The illicit trade will be absolutely tiny compared to the current market. For a large percentage of potential users the ease in which vapes are acquired determines to a large degree weather they begin vaping or take part or not. Take away the billions of vapes available and the market will be dramatically diminished along with the users. Something needs to be done right now so vaping doesn't become normalised and entrenched just as governments are about to take on the extremely complex task of ridding society of cigarette smoking. Fact: Society will never be able to stop people from being self destructive but making Nicotine supply part of the national health network is a common sense approach. Smoking costs society, tax payers billions of dollars per year in negative health outcomes. Its an industry of death.
@@bottomendbliss so what about the millions of ex smokers of cigarettes who use vaping as a way to exit and decrease their cigarette consumption ie decreasing the amount of people consuming harmful cigarettes which has an effect on the health services? Using a vape has been a method of smokers transitioning away from consistent cigarette use. Now this could potentially lead those to have less access to alternative methods of giving up smoking?
@@RM-vz3ly Access to vapes and all alternative nicotine products will still be widely and easily available to all smokers of legal age through pharmacy's.
@@montybarrington2732 Not sure about there but here Mdma, acid, and pills are practically impossible to get unless you spend time getting kicked out of clubs for grovelling for drugs. Even weed is a pain to find. Its annoying not being able to get party favours occasionally. The margin on drugs makes the risk worthwhile for dealers, vapes wont be worth the risk to many. Plus having to store and carry a box of vapes to deal is nonsense. Of course some will have a system of supply that will work but that will be minor compared to the blanket availability we have now.
what do you think should be done to stop kids harming themselves with vapes?
Weed as never been legal, still smoked by kids all over the world 🤷🏻
Weed is legal, I get it on prescription here in the uk 😁
@r-urbex1611 I've asked my doctors multiple times if I can be prescribed it to manage anxiety, and help with mental health, always been told no.
I used to use it illegally for years, but on the street you can't be sure of what strain you'll get, and if it's grown properly, and most of it is unnaturally high THC, not enough CBD, would you mind telling, how did you get prescribed weed in the UK?
Kids are doing heroin too doesnt mean we should be selling it at the corner shop.
@@r-urbex1611🧢 lad
I have a corner shop and sell vapes legally. We understand our responsibility as a business to safegaurd kids from buying vapes. But we have experienced, parents buying vapes for their own underage kids and are comfortable seeing their kids smoking , drinking and getting pregnant in their teens, looks like society at large are being asked to take care of some families fault. If there were lawful consequences for both the seller and the buyer of any illegal items , I think we might see a change .
Correct, these so called parents buy children fireworks too, then let them out loose with them unattended !
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@@maxheadroom224Nothing to do with diversity mate. I'm from a country with very little diversity and it has the same problem. Shitty parenting is what we need to tackle.
@@xDJxIronheadx-KhodersMusic sneed
They're kids as if banning disposable vapes will stop them from vaping it won't not only that we have more important things the government should be working on fixing. You know like fixing poverty in the UK, fixing housing prices, the cost of living i can go on forever.
you can care about more than one thing at once
@@SerendipityChild The problem with the government is they don't care about one thing nevermind multiple things at once.
I cant understand why they are so bothered its better then smoking when we was kids we was smoking cigs
Do you know what’s in vapes?
That nano miracle particle.. same thing found in detergents 🤢
Vaping poison. Should have never been legal!
But its not better. Especially recent disposable ones. It leads to more and anti social behavior
Vaping*
@@jka3062what antisocial behaviour does it lead to?
vapes can be much, much stronger than cigarettes, cheap, and easy to get
think drinking vodka every day as a kid vs getting your hands on the occasional beer. kids are doing real harm to themselves with this and becoming addicted.
Better they smoke vapes than cigarettes. Think this generation fortunate they have them and take advantage of the cleaner evolution of consuming nicotine compared to cigarettes.
Would they prefer kids smoking cigarettes? 😂?!
That’s probably what’s gonna happen next if this goes through so idk how it’s going to make a difference 🤷🏼♀️😅
Arty, did you miss the bit where they dont want kids harming themselves
Well they're buying them from dealers on snapchat not shops because they're not old enough anyway. I think parents need to parent better unfortunately. If your 9 year old is vaping you've failed miserably.
availability is a big thing too. its not just down to parents.
All this talk about flavours, didn't realise adults didn't like sweets
marketing to children is done with bright colours and dessert flavours. look at the drinks section and see if you can spot the ones that kids WANT when they see them
God sake, I’m law abiding, don’t drink, don’t gamble. My life is miserable enough as it is, I can’t buy a house, work all the hours god sends…. I like to vape, leave me something
rechargeables arent being banned
I find the nicotine helps my stress about using food banks. Thanks Rishi.
Why you buying vapes if you got to use food banks 😂
@@ShakTMT🤣... and I woulda gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids
"Cost of Living"? BLAME THE GOVERNMENT
Why don t they just ban everything . Its absolutely pathetic
its pathetic to try and stop the harm kids are doing to themselves with vapes, hey.
If vapes were the same colour as cigarette packets they'd be far less trendy to young people.
Rubbish! Young people have been smoking long before vapes were around. When I was in primary school about 20 odd years ago there were a number of kids in my year who smoked. It's all down to parenting.
@AirstripOne-nd4du it's what gets kids attracted to vaping. I'm not talking about pre-existing vapers. Teenage girls wouldn't be attracted to picking up an ugly green vape in the same way they would a pink, cherry flavour cute vape. I have Teenage girls. Idgaf about 40 year old nicotine addicts (like myself), but if making them ugly can prevent new users from picking one up its worth it. I am aware that some young people will always smoke just out of rebelliousness but vaping is out of control and kids that otherwise wouldn't be able to afford cigarettes can afford a vape which isn't good and the fact that they have become a fashion accessory also is a big draw to young smokers.
@lee9650 trouble is now the majority vape rather than just a few. I remember kids back in the day buying singles from the corner shops. Some will always do it, and I agree with your parenting point. My 16-year-old daughter doesn't vape but some of her friends do.
@dawnsherratt2317 it's the flavours themselves that is at fault in that case, you can have a cherry flavoured vape and make the packing brown but it's still a cherry flavoured in the end of the day
australia's cigarette packets have pictures of disease on them
Biggest issue to me is the 20mg amount of nicotine in disposables. The max amount in a disposable should be far less, you're basically addicted after a single disposable it's far too much nicotine that is only really suitable for very heavy smokers.
I mean I use to be a heavy smoker, 30 - 40 roll ups a day sometimes more. Vaping has pretty much saved me from dying in my 30's but I can somewhat understand the disposable vape ban in some aspects. What annoys me the most is people picking up this habit when they've never smoked a cigarette in their lives. Smoking is not cool it is highly addictive and my lungs are fucked from chain smoking for years.
I did however like how convenient it was to buy the disposable ones they're easy to use, just take them out the packet and away you go.
It's just a shame that stupid children and mindless parenting has ruined this.
It's mad though how the cost of living is sky rocketing, housing is fucked, crime on an all time high and they're deciding to ban vapes. clown world, always will be.
kids buying sweet things in bright colours .. they arent stupid. they're targeted agressively, and theyre not old enough to realise the harm. that bit of your brain isnt finished developing until age 25.
Feeling bad for all those eager and smart business men who opened Vape shops in town centres. They worked hard to open them shops!
They are not banning vaping, just the planet munching disposables, they should ban anything that says 'disposable' aka 'wastable' I mean you get some kids moaning on about adults wasting things, but oh no not kids wasting vapes that have perfectly serviceable rechargeable Lion batteries, yes disposable vapes do have rechargeable cell as they are cheaper to produce !
@@Gazr965there going to ban flavors that will destroy shops
But people will just have to get used to non banned flavours, bit like removing/banning TEL from petrol, but there are even more millions of cars on the road since then😎 @@davewright9313
this is a trap.
anyway i hope adult vapers in the UK are well stocked with their non-disposable vape gear, and that they have solid connections to their favorite flavors.
all people enjoy flavorful things.
all people's eyes are drawn to color
Even Stevie wonder can see what's gonna happen next
There is no such thing as "non-disposable". You mean REUSEABLE!
@@MandyArrowof course, his hearing works and he can read braille.
You know what's a trap? relying on something your body doesn't inherently need at Birth. Sorry, that's as Blunt as we can put it.
As a smoker .I agree with the plan to make a smoke and free generation ...
But on the other side ..as an adult if bright colours and fruit flavours are what I want to buy then I should be able to .
Just because someone else has the belief that they (bright colours and fruits flavour )only appeal to children then they are categorically wrong
making it sweet and bright does attract kids
But why should adults like myself who has been vaping for 8 years be punished for it? yes i mainly vape my tank, bt disposables r useful,, god i hope they don't bring in a juice flavor ban
Mate grow up.
@@bottomendbliss fair comment, i can live without disposables,,
because kids are getting their hands on them so readily they're doing real harm to themselves
@@SerendipityChild I do actually agree now with you, I just hope we Don't get a flavor ban, cos well adult's like flavors too,
@@Silvertongue8 same
This is a parenting problem not a product problem but your not allowed to say parents need to do their job better or you’ll hurt their little feelings
this isn't kids spending their money on lollies. they're doing serious damage .. vapes are easy to get, cheap, and much much stronger than cigarettes
I'm old and I like cola flavour vape
Shut up you're 13
Why are most people in the comments talking about all vapes being banned? It's only disposable vapes. It's crazy that we produce so many batteries to create these devices and they're thrown away only when the fluid is empty. The battery has tonnes of life left in it. Vaping seems alright, but disposable vapes? I'd be grateful if someone could justify how that makes sense.
So shouldn't they come to a conclusion with big time disposable vape makers to make the battery last its life etc the 9000 puffs or higher ofc the ingredients is a problem lead poisoning etc but banning disposables as a whole for kids that will change to cigarettes or rechargeable vapes is abit extreme rishi wants a smoke free generation u heard him but that isn't even possible the only way that is possible is for everyone to be banned from any smoking cigarettes and vapes but that wouldn't stop weed so once again he would fail 😅😂
Why were they ever legal? Obviously directed at kids and just another piece of high tech plastic to throw into the countryside.
china
@@SerendipityChild No, they are made of plastic.
Oh no! you can't be allowed such things as flavours 😂
Yeah they got rid of menthol cigarettes because they were easy to smoke for beginners and replaced it with cherry lemonade vapes lol. It doesn't work
if you dont know that making it sweet flavoured attract kids, you're not very smart
@@SerendipityChild do you like things with flavours Steph?
Just came back from Asia where in the majority of countries I visited, vaping and e-cigarettes are banned. This merely forces ex smokers to use tobacco products again. I hope that the government will be careful about pushing people back into cigarettes as that is far more harmful. Additionally, young people (including myself when I was young) have always had access to illegal tobacco, smoking underage was always an issue. Removing legal disposable vapes will either push young people to use dangerously illegal vapes or just take up smoking.
Odd assumption that fruit flavours are intended to appeal to children. Are adults not allowed to like sweet flavours now?
It used to be just old men that liked flavoured hand rolling tobaccos right? The vapes are definitely marketed for a lower IQ market, kids or not.
@@H-youtube7 Not really. I use pink lemonade flavour because the other flavours taste like the flavoured Johnny's from the 90s 😂🤮
@@ArrowToTheKnee Jesus mate get over the whole pink lemonade thing. Read a book, get a hobby.
making things brightly coloured and sweet attracts kids to them
@@SerendipityChild right, it makes it easier, like with alcopops
Step 1. Get a generation of kids hooked on nicotine.
Step 2. Ban vapes
Step 3. Profit
How quick were the UK GOV on banning a certain breed of dog recently? Vapes have been around for years. Too little too late!
there isnt profit in kids fucking up their health
As usual it's become a disposable rubbish issue they still can't use bins!!!!!! They won't ban cigarettes or alcohol, unfortunately I've just heard from a disposable vape shop owner, that the illegal vapes are flooding the market and giving his shops a bad name. I could guarantee if cigarettes came in the colours of rainbows and the packet as well, they'd still smoke it. Rushing should be addressing more pressing issues, plus the disposable vapes are so expensive where is the money coming from????? 🌞
,,nut they will not take action over 'skunk' weed . . . .many children are now smoking it , . .a disgrace !!!
I really liked the hint at how it will push sales underground putting these children at further risk of organised crime
I don't vape but I really like that it results in candy clouds that smell amazing. Ciggies smell yuck but lots of the vapes have gorgeous smells
I was vaping outside work, these two girls walked past, and I overheard their conversation about trying to find the bakery they could smell. I gave them the bad news that it was my caramel biscuit liquid the could smell and not a bakery 😆
yup :) thats why kids like them
The Vaping Lobby will not be Happy, after giving the Tories thousands in Donations.
cigarettes are still available after all the legislation reduction that happened. Why can’t the same be done with vapes. Its a massive industry of taxable income for the country. Make them more expensive, Plain packaging sold behind the counter. Why is it a straight ban for vapes?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with refillables.if only people weren't so damn lazy. I don't c why disposables shouldn't b banned. But also refillable devices etc must b made better and more reliable. Dunno about healthier but certainly cheaper which is all I care about, apart from it being reliable - which at moment alot of the devices on the market is not.
Why not healthier?
@@aceman0000099 I don't care so much about healthier tbh. If ciggies weren't so damn expensive nowadays, I'd still b smoking.
My main problem with vaping is that the devices including coils etc r so damn unreliable.
@@cheedevulan8547what do you mean unreliable? Back in the days coils were junk, often doa, but not so much anymore. Any decent 50-80$ mod should be reliable enough for day to day.
@@cheedevulan8547oxva xlim is a great device. Perfect disposable replacement
Cute. You think they're gonna stop at disposables ?
Concerned about kids health but not concerned about sending kids to war or giving our money to Ukraine..
? how does helping putin make uk kids safer
OH as if the unelected government cares about the health of any of us!
It's 2024
We aren't so blind as we were 5 years ago!
Well I was starting to think that but reading the comments here I’m not so confident anymore.
Ban disposables because they are bad for the environment but dont ban vaping or flavors as a whole. People have quit smoking because of vaping.
Why not raise the legal age for purchase of cigarettes and vapes one year every year... anyone not old enough to legally smoke will never legally buy them and smoking would be wiped out. Of course so would tobacco taxation.
In theory yes, but that’s not usually how prohibition works in practice is it.
@@jojojo8835 this is exactly what's happened in New Zealand. They're aging out smoking
How did Britain get this bad with managing itself?? How did we get into this state? Politicians have so much to answer for
Have there been any studies that vaping has health risks?
Yes, google it.
Yes, many.
all of them indicate sharply reduced risk as compared to smoking.
inhaling only air is of course best of all, if you can manage it
pubmed is the largest medical research library online.
Yes, such an ethical country 🤥
As someone who is 19 and first vaped when I was 14. Which was the time it started becoming appealing to teenagers. It is not the packaging and it’s not the flavouring. I don’t understand why they think teenagers are 5 yr olds who are attracted to bright colours.
The appeal is because of the societal environment in school. When I first did it. It felt so devious and cool. The appeal is how it’s illegal and so easy to get. It’s also super addictive. In recent times kids younger than me seem to like the idea of collecting them as a way to show off. It’s a way for teenagers to feel “grown” or “cool” I think the issue is, it’s a gateway for teenagers to do other drugs. Like smoking weed. I hang around skate parks and the amount of 8 yr olds I see rolling zoots and using vapes is shocking. Vaping also has created more crime in youth. It’s a gateway to many things. I’m seeing a lack of control in parents for teens younger than me. And honestly it’s become a nuisance and it’s embarrassing the way teens act now. Someone recently got killed by a under 16 at my skatepark. like I said I hang out at skateparks with people my age so this is what I see in public as a older youth. I don’t think older generations have any idea how bad it is. Should talk to more older teens to get our perspective as we was the ones that first got onto it.
Anyway disposables are fucking disgusting, reusables are more superior and I doubt most kids will be able to buy normal cigarettes. And your more likely to get caught. The problem is the scale. When I was in secondary in 2015 people used to smoke cigarettes but it was a small amount of teens. And they did it in secret. Now imagine that but a bunch of girls/boys in a toilet. No doubt it would set a fire alarm, you can smell it too, in ur breath too. So I don’t think teens wanna risk that. Vapes are so easy and accessible to hide. And when I was in school we used to send of someone who was the tallest and looked the oldest but now. Anyone can get them despite how you look. You can even buy them in your uniform.
Surely they understand that by banning vapes the children will probably pick up cigarettes instead. Give communities back the youth clubs at least.
Your catching on to something.
Big companies making money off peasants as usual.
Cigarettes are going too mate. Get with the program.
@@Thatperson-kt3mu Yep!
@@bottomendbliss They should be sued for ever marketing cigarettes.
vapes are much cheaper, easier to get, easier to use (you dont need a lighter or to be outside) ..
Tobacco use will explode
you mean kids are hooked on nicotine and will become smokers .. ? damn i wonder why
Pathetic, surprise surprise, more government overreach.
But what about the ligitimate market? Adults who like pink lemonade!
yeah, kids harming themselves is something we need to try and stop. unfortunately theyre getting their hands on these really easy, and using them so much they hurt themselves
Time to promote the kids to the tabbaco industry
You can't beat Andrea Ledsom i means this So and so couldn't care less about the children unless she's cutting Dissabled children's benefits 😊
as a young persons heres me 2pence, vapes are incredibly easy to buy. And the way they're displayed and the flavouring does contribute to wanting more. I myself vape only to try and avoid smoking but i consistently vape which is my issue atm. I think their should be private sellers who only have access to these vapes and have gone through basic training to ensure the consequences if they are sold illegally. Also helps tbh if their wasnt so many addictive flavours and keep the flavouring to a minimum.
Horse has already bolted. This issue should've been tackled long before it took hold and now it can't be removed. But I'm sure the tobacco company profits and taxes were too juicy to resist before it became a more talked about issues.
I'm 35. I never smoked. I tried it a couple times when I was drunk, but never been a smoker.
I lived with someone who vaped and found it enjoyable and went from having one for a bit on a night out in the smoking area. Now i'm lowkey hooked on vapes. Which is tragic I know haha. I have a real sweet tooth. I have been looking forward to this and vowed to not by a rechargeable vape. So this ban will be the good time for me to stop vaping.
So you wanted everyones personal freedom taken away because you cant control yourself?
@@perseus431Yes. People can't control themselves
@@perseus431he doesn’t seem to be the sharpest, instead of buying a rechargeable which is cheaper and better for the environment he paid premium prices for disposables.
@@perseus431 exactly .pathetic ,but then it is channel 4 news .
Just buy some cinnamon toothpicks to chew on
It won't stop at disposables u watch.
precisely. i reckon a complete ban within 10 to 15 years. this is the proverbial camel's nose under the tent.
what would stop it?
Myself (16) I know plenty of boys and girls that I ask them why do you vape and they say something along the lines of I like the taste or it and the packaging is 100% made to attract the eyes of kids.
It’s a shame how government make money from the death of your children. If I was the government, I would ban all companies that make alcohol or cigarettes.
Why didnt they just add an age restriction law to them instead of going to this extreme? I dont smoke and i dont vape but i know vapes are a good way to help real smokers stop.
They are age restricted already you doughnut 😅
they are age restricted. the problem is kids are getting their hands on them anyway and using them to excess, harming themselves
@@SerendipityChild well then if they are going to outright remove these things why dont they just do the same with cigarettes because the kids get their hands on those aswell..
@@Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer short version: its hard to get rid of things that have been around for centuries.
if we invented alcohol today there is 0% chance it would be allowed to be marketed and consumed. it causes damage to literally every tissue and organ .. but we are used to it and the entities that make it are very wealthy and powerful. likewise, tobacco lobbies.
fortunately, cigarettes are much harder for kids to get and to use. a disposable vape doesnt need a lighter, doesnt need re-filling, doesnt need a charger, can be concealed in a pencilcase because an entire packet of cigarette equivalent is the size of a pencil. and vapes are cheap .. in my country, australia, I bought 50 draw vapes for $1 each ten years ago
putting barriers between kids and vapes doesnt mean unexposed kids will necessarily try cigarettes instead. vapes are so very popular because they are easier, cheaper, more stealthy, more convenient that smokes.
conversely, allowing excessive vape use in children _will_ cause life-long addiction.
like energy drinks or vodka: vapes are so strong its easy to consume so much you harm yourself
It will NEVER stand time or reality and WILL be overturned. There will be no full ban, and any will be repealed! That is a PROMISE. That is all.
If vapes are being banned what is that to do with flavours either there being banned totally or not .
Only disposable vapes are being banned
Rediclus we need education not ban
why should a foreign man make english Law . .. ? . . read Magna Carta
There is to many dogey vapes on the market this is dangerous
*there are too many
You want the plural "are" because you're referring to plural "vapes" not singular "vape" as in "There is a dodgy vape on the counter."
And “too” is an adverb. It can be used to replace words such as “excessively”, “additionally”, “as well” or “also”. “To”, on the other hand, is a versatile preposition that can be used in various situations and contexts. It's used to indicate a direction, like “toward” and “until”.
@@az55544mate I read about half ur reply because it was to gay to finish lad and cringe
This is not what needs to happen. Banning disposables is just handing the market to criminals in the same way as illegal drugs, instead of being able to regulate the market by keeping it above board, this market has become impossible to regulate.
All these pre-existing illegal vapes containing various things they shouldn't contain will become much more common as a result. If disposables were instead properly regulated in terms of where shops purchase vapes in bulk from, making sure that the companies selling vapes to shop chains have to go through some form of testing process to make sure they aren't providing illegal vapes to shops, there would be far less of these illegal vapes on the market.
I also think something that should be in place is shops needing a license to sell nicotine products, this is already a thing for alcohol, some would argue nicotine products are worse than alcohol, so why do shops not need a license to sell them? This would stop every random corner shop from carrying vapes, and make it easier to ensure the vapes being sold meet the proper legal standards.
Disposable vapes deserve to be on the legal market. Smokers are used to buying a pack, opening it, pulling out a cigarette, lighting it, and using it until it's done. With disposables you just buy it, take it out its packaging, and use it until it's done. It's a very similar level of convenience. With reusables you have to choose a specific kind of device, choose a liquid, buy several refill liquids and replacement coils, regularly refill the vape and replace coils, deal with coils burning, deal with potential leaking issues, regularly charge it, and make sure you charge it properly. Much less convenient, therefore much more of a potential turnoff for people looking to move from smoking to vaping. Disposables are a very essential bridge.
As for banning flavours, this should not be done at all. The wide variety of flavours to choose from is another thing that attracts smokers looking to quit. I don't believe that mango vapes being on the market is going to make children who don't already vape want to start. What should be banned is dumb flavour names, such as "Unicorn Vomit", as the argument for these names being more attractive to young people holds a lot more weight as far as I'm concerned. Flavours should just be called what they taste like.
On the topic of some pre-existing vape related laws I think should not be in place:
Refillable vapes being limited to 2ml tanks, as this just increases inconvenience for the user due to more frequent refills.
Liquid refills with nicotine being limited to 10ml bottles, as this is even more inconvenient, one bottle is only 5 refills, you have to buy and carry more.
Nicotine content in vapes being limited to 20mg/ml (2%), regardless of whether it's salt, freebase, or hybrid nicotine. This limit is simply too low for users who may be wanting to switch over from smoking several packs a day, and increases inconvenience as you have to mix your own liquid to go over that limit. In combination with the previous restriction listed, it also worsens the shortfill loophole that restriction neccessitated. For those unaware, shortfill liquids are sold in 100ml bottles without nicotine, then a 10ml bottle containing no flavour and the desired percentage of nicotine is sold alongside it and mixed together after purchase. Even if this 10ml flavourless bottle is at 2% nicotine, it gets diluted to roughly 0.2%, making it unviable for anyone who isn't an incredibly light user with no history of smoking.
And finally, as for the proposal to raise the smoking age by one year every year until nobody can buy cigarettes, this too will push a legal regulated market into an unregulated market ran by criminals. The legal age should stay at 18, no lower, no higher. If you're old enough for the government and legal system to see you as an adult, you should be considered old enough to decide what you want to put into your own body.
are you saying that banning illegal drugs has increased the harm and use in kids?
About time, your honestly better off chugging a pack a day of tabs then one of these
We have had these flavours for years and before pods were a thing. And to go after flavours when you can't refill pods is just an excuse. The government is obviously missing the money/payoff from b8g tobacco
if you make it sweet and brightly coloured, you attract kids.
This woman is in denial and way over confident. She’s just saying no to everything and not taking onboard any of the arguments against
What about banning alcohol 🍸
Really? Yeah let’s ban anything that gives anyone any pleasure. Oh wait…. That’s the plan. You’re a despicable person.
I vape to help my eating disorder. I like fruit and dessert flavours to help stop my cravings. Plus theirs bigger issue than kids vaping.
my country you can get prescriptuions for vapes, for health reasons
Why are politicians 5-10 years behind on everything? This has been a known issue for years
To be honest I'm surprised it's not just made a crime if you are seen with one in public under 18 a bit like underage drinking without an adult
arresting kids isnt really a good thing
The good old days are gone. I remember going to the corner candy store in Philadelphia,Pennsylvania, USA 🇺🇸 to buy Lucky Strikes for my mother at 35 cents a pack.
Yeah the good old days, parents smoking in front of their kids poisoning and addicting them.
@@bottomendbliss Now it's the other way around: Now the adults are buying vapes for the kids.
vapes are much, much stronger than cigarettes. and much cheaper.