A Drummer’s WORST Nightmare + Best Drum Tech 🥁
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"What instrument do you play bro?"
"The drummer."
Bruh, underrated
Tuff a$$ comment ‼️
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I would hire you to wrote my comments
*the drummer’s calf
- What do you do for a living?
- I'm a metronome.
I was high while reading this comment, and it made me laugh for a good 10 minutes. 😂
“What is my purpose?”
“You tap the drummers leg so he knows what tempo the band is at”
“Oh god”
😂
Paul Gilbert has a human capo too.
I'm Metronoman 🦸♂️
Having that relationship with the crew is TIGHT!!
It makes things Super Easy…
Relationship with a paycheck
…barely an inconvenience
a ryan george reference? wow wow wow wow wow
wow
@@bleachcheeks4837 same thing as marriage
That drum tech will have a job for life with any band he wants. That reference of, "dude saved the show. Wasn't off beat once in 30 min."
He had an in ear monitor for the click
@@ja3033 doesn't matter. He went 30 minutes and saved the show. Didn't hesitate.
@@bryansmith7238 I know and I agree with you. I was referring to your last statement on why he wasn't off beat for the rest of those 30 mins.
he probably was multiple times but that wouldn't bother an experienced drummer like that one from polyphia. It's highly improbable that he perfectly tapped for 30 minutes
Than he joins a math metal band
This is one example out of literally hundreds on why drum techs are so fucking important and deserve more recognition. Sure the drummers put on a great performance, but the drum techs need love man. I'm a drummer myself, were not huge, largest crowd was like 600, but I don't have a drum tech, I can't afford to hire one. But they can make or break shows. Clay, you got yourself an incredible drum tech.
I definitely do! And completely agree 🙏🏼
Curious, what do drum techs make for a salary?
@@peanutheadrules depends on the band, level of band, budget, and his experience. I would say for a baby band a guy that knows his shit, $1500-2000/week of shows. Minimum and probably $3500 My reference pont is almost 20 years ago.
LANGUAGE
600 is a lot of people bro
"so what does your previous coworkers say about you?", "They can count on me"
😂
hahha
COUNT
🤣😂😁😁
This comment legit needs more likes 😅
amazing
No you counted on HIM
I like how you can see them perfecting their system as the time goes on, with the human metronome upgrading to drumsticks instead of just his hand.
Eventually he'll shrink and sit inside the drummer's ear banging on a triangle
Well great job after all. And even a greater job for the the drumtech guy to keep the 4!!!! Hail to the guy who kept the metronome!!!! It is NOT EASY!!!!!!!
It’s kind of easy
Lol what it is easy if you have a click track
It’s easy bro. Lol you just hit with the click that is in his ears.
I ment if you lost the click and you have to take orientation from the track its playing 🙄
I thought he has no click in the ear and is doing it because the drummer did not hear the band right behind the drums 🤷
Everyone needs a bro like that on tour.
When I worked touring, I always had the best crew guys and girls. People just worked so hard and bent over backwards for the show. This guy is exactly what they do. EVERY DAY. They are amazing people, and I can't thank everyone of them enough.
We've always considered the crew as members of the band, never separated them from those onstage... takes everyone involved to make a show happen.
These guys learned to play by memory and hearing each other.. the metronome is really needed if they have backing tracks etc (so they are on time for the backing tracks),
I will say that's why we always had external monitors especially behind the drums in case our in-ears went out
It's hard to hear the guitarist when all you can hear is yourself. And with drumming as technical as this a metronome is extremely helpful. When I was touring, out drummer had one for the back tracks for synthetic and weird shit. You trust your drummer to be on time. Doesn't hurt to be safe even without a backtrack.
you are wrong ..they can't play as a band they play as a midi sequence.
My guitar tech was so good to me and my equipment. The guy would have my effect racks pedals and amps on point every show. All 7 guitars were always in tune and I'd just have to walk out and play. Thanks Shaggy. Love ya bro
Scooby dooby doo
@@Daniel-om4ce we always teased the poor guy but he never complained and a plus was he was always sober I on the other hand was almost never sober. I could hit the stage stumbling drunk or high as giraffe pussy and play the set without fucking it up and then Shaggy would ask me dude how the hell can you play like that and still have a great show? I've no fucking clue. Now I stay sober and life is boring 😆 🤣 😂 😹
R/thathappened
@@lightsout6260 sure. Once at rehearsal I drank 17 Mike's hard lemonades cause it was Sunday and was going easy. I can handle a lot of alcohol. Even though I hadn't drank in 5yrs when I went to the Philippines in May 2022 for 35 days I had a fifth of Captain Morgan rum every other night. No hangover and I was never drunk. My brother's there was drunk as fuck.
@@miketurpin4959 Sounds like you're in denial about alcoholism.
Shoulda just started slamming pills and smack lol. 💉
"What instrument do you play, bro.?"
"The Metronome." 📳🥁
Teamwork...it's a must...
when did playing AS A BAND suddely become the problem.
Their drum tech is Chris Lent, and he's the former drummer for I Set My Friends on Fire!
I guess he's quit the band because he set his friend on fire
@@andryuu_2000 Holy shit! I haven't had ISMFOF on the brain since they collabed with SMOSH on 'Sex Ed Rocks'
@@coolguyhino92 that was a great tour. Was that before or after the colab with Granny Gets a Lizard?
Who is the drummer plz
@@theydidwrongrealbad9120 Polyphia's drummer
I keep seeing videos about this from different bands, happens a lot more than you’d think
That right there shows to always appreciate having a good tech crew. Maybe one day being a drummer myself I'll know what that's like 👍🏼
Drum tech should be hailed as a hero in this concert. 🥁🥁🥁
This happened to my guitarist once. I just had to hi-hat keep time in the breaks. A lot scarier for the drummer to lose the click!
as a drummer, YOU ARE the clicks....
@@blackmancer my point exactly
how about you learn to play as a band and not individually. Problem exists only as a modern problem due to the narcissism and bullshit.
This was my introduction to Polyphia, I'm forever grateful I saw this video.
That doesn’t look comfortable for that guy. Well done unsung and unseen hero! Well, he’s seen now, but not during. Giving props where it’s due is great of you guys :)
As a drummer I feel this, I hear either a few of my band mates or none or them regardless if the sound engineers good, but this should be sorted the second he said I can't hear shit
It was! Just bad wireless frequencies in that spot.
As a drummer I have a love hate relationship with click tracks. They are fantastic when the work, and can be disastrous when they don't . Advice for drummers wanting to go pro, learn to play outside the click. Tony Royster Jr. Did a drum clinic where he played against the metronome. Very helpful.
I'm amazed by drummers like Taylor Hawkins, rest his soul, who never used a click track.
Any drummers who've played shows before knows how fkn hard it is to hear shit when the monitors or ear piece fails. On top of that challenge this shit is insanely technical 😯 dudes a straight up beast on the skins !!!
Mad props!
You might be one of the only people who understands. Thanks a bunch 🙏🏼
You shouldn’t write music you can’t play off the heart. Clicks are for practice not performance time yea it’s easier but the fact that he almost lost his mind after a click is off is ridiculous especially for a drummer we learn to have perfect timing even for technique stuff.
@@mariofloresdrums First off, Clay (the drummer) didn't write the drums. Second, I'm pretty sure they wanted a perfect playthrough for their fans. Why should they not use a metronome? Even the best of the best still need metronomes in order to keep them in the beat.
@@K31N0S i wouldn’t say the best need metronomes at all since the best of the best can keep up with others
That was such a badass fucking show. I had no clue until I got home a few days after the festival, went back and looked at my videos and saw homeboy clickin away on his leg. One cool ass memory to be a part of.
Thought a knee slapper was a joke?... now I know he is a legend. 🤘
You might notice the lack of speakers in the guitar amps - this is common, most musicians play through a small amp or emulation, even Yngwie’s amps are all empty cases
I sincerely hope he bought that tech PLENTY of beers after that!
Major props to him for being able to maintain the beat for 30 minutes. The focus that must have required is commendable.
"A good roadie knows his whole job is to make someone else look good, keep someone else safe, help someone else do what they were put here to do. A good roadie stays out of the spotlight. If he's doing his job right, you don't even know he's there. Once in a while he might step on stage just to fix a problem, to set something right. But then before you even realize he was there or what he did, he's gone."
-Eddie Riggs
WE ARE THE ROAD CREW
I've worked stages where drums are swapped out on-the-fly...
but swapping a metronome with a technician is super impressive. crowd got their show and nobody is the wiser 🤘🏻
Gosh, I've had clicks cut out, then re-emerge. Trying to keep things in time, live, whilst hearing a different click, (let alone nothing at all [Guitar/Bass])is super frustrating. KUDOS to this guy! 👏
how are you a musician if you need a metronome to perform?
@@blackmancer sometime you cannot hear another band member sound because of how noisy and big the stage is, ear monitor solved that problem, metronome is just kinda like an option, when it actually helps you play perfectly in time then why you even bother? I mean, new technology makes things easier then why not using them?
@@blackmancer and musician actually taught to play using metronome, btw are you musician? You sound like you dont.
when our automated belt quit working my co worker started pushing the boxes down the belt for the unloader guy and it saved the day. It doesnt seem like a big deal until you realize he helped push 3,100 cases 1 at a time
Can’t wait for Glenn Fricker to respond to this video…it’s gonna be a field day on SMG!
-What instrument do you play?
-Well, I'm the instrument
The mate who taught me drums would have laughed at the thought of needing a click track. He played in a band for many years and said he’s never used one ever. When i questioned him his response was “I keep the time, the band follows me, thats my job”
This is my point exactly
So you play very complex songs with polyrhythms, changing time signatures and backing tracks that can't follow you if you get faster or slower and would be able to nail these perfectly without hearing anything? That's bullshit.
@@comrade_marv not me i only started playing when i was 40. But apparently when my mate was learning there was a class of a dozen or so students and they would all play in time to the teacher. He started when he was 4 or 5. Then he played along to records. So i guess technically he did use a time keeper but it was never a metronome or a click track and he never used a click track when he played live. He has the ability to stay in time whatever time he chooses.
As for speeding up and slowing down i was told to never do it. Everyone i spoke to said its bad practice.
@@python27au you can't compare this to the extreme complexity of Polyphia Songs + they're using backing tracks you have to keep up with. No one and I mean absolutely no one is able to stay in time 100% without hearing anything. We're humans. We'll get slower and faster now and then. Change your tempo only by 1bpm while playing with backing tracks and you'll screw up the whole Song. I don't use a click in my bands either, normal songs and playing without backing tracks works fine without a click for most people (even though I'd prefer it). Being able to play with a metronome is an important skill, especially if you want to be able to do studio recordings or use backing tracks.
@@comrade_marv fair enough. But i was referring to playing live with real band members.
The practice tracks i have don’t have a click i just have to feel it.
This is such a creative, quick thinking solution. Props to this crew!
This is still so epic. Well done to both the tech and the drummer 👊🏼
Bro tech crew is awesome. Would be so hard without these guys.
Do they run tracks? Otherwise, I’m not sure why he needed his tech to act as a metronome. They could’ve also swapped packs.
As a drummer that’s had their click/backing tracks fail before, I just kept playing the song/set with no IEM’s in & play to my own tempo.
Yes, we run tracks. Tried multiple packs to no avail. Terrible wireless frequencies in that spot on stage prevented me from hearing anything.
@@paragondrums being a professional at that level means adapting to the wildest situations and getting the job done. I'm in awe at how this technical situation was handled
I love how everyone on this channel appreciates what a monumental contribution this was. I saw the same clip on another channel and everyone was like "fire the drummer he can't keep time", "he's supposed to get credit for remembering his own songs?". They don't understand what monster material Polyphia plays.
the fact the drummer manage to still get on the show with just that means he's incredibly skilled + that drummer tech for assists - smart dude
improvise, adapt, overcome. with team work. no short comings
I don't like it when people comment things like "Aren't you a professional drummer, it's your song so shouldn't you have the tempo memorized??"
Not that I'd ever know what it's like to play for a crowd that big on a stage that huge, but in the small bands I've played in, adrenaline can do a lot specially if you know that band is depending on soly you for tempo. It's so easy to fall off tempo even if it is your own song.
Backstage crew are the true heroes of the shows. This guy should have had a standing ovation!
That drum tech is a hero! And the drummer is a monster! They are a great team together!
that tech crew is a life saver!! keep him at all cost
We sometimes do this when there is a huge delay in the sound caused by a big untreated room/hall :)
This would be an absolutely simple fix… copy the IEM MIX to a free Matrix, and patch a direct stereo line to the relay input of the IEM wireless 👂 unit… Sustainable working fix in just a few seconds. Also, a redundancy system should always be on standby for just the sort of thing.
Not the sort of thing you want to say that you can’t handle being an engineer myself.
Kudos man! Great job
The Power of teamwork
Give the man a raise
Damn. Nothing buffering that volume for 30 minutes is crushing. I hope he had a chance to throw in some earplugs
techs roadies the unsung heros of music tours none of them no stage no sound no show
What an awesome moment to catch for us to see. Executed flawlessly all around. 🤘🥰
Ah the hero,The Living Metronome!
Unsung heroes. Much love to all the techs out there that do a surprising amount of work for our beloved rock stars.
Teamwork. 👍
Makes the dream work!
Dude’s left calf is the unsung hero.
Now THATS a drum tech!!!
OH MY GOD. THORIN OAKENSHIELD IS ALIVE
So cool to see this, that drum tech is a legend! And incredible drumming without the metronome!
What do you do for a living ?
"I drum the drummer that drums the drums."
@@gator_productions Really ?
In these types of groups, their techs are usually just as good as the dudes they support. That guy saved the show cuz he ALSO knows all the songs by memory. Shout out to him.
That man is a legend
As a drummer myself, that tech is a f#@king legend.
Drummers being impressed by the metronome guy. Guitar players be like "dude, speaker cabs are empty!"
Very creative, ingenious solution!
To be honest, though, I feel like breaking through a bass drum head would be the worst nightmare unless the drummer has more than one on their kit.
The most confusing part is that the tech didn’t trade him IEMs. Still, kudos.
Ive been wondering the same thing. Like bro stop hitting me with a drum stick and give me your pack!
He actually did… 3 times actually. The frequencies were terrible only in that exact spot on stage
That's crazy, props to the tech all the same
Damn well kudos to the tech then! If you can't hear it your gonna feel it!
@@paragondrums damn! Thanks for that bit of info! AV disaster right there
I was drummer and lead singer in a super heavy band and when sound guys sucked I just played the songs by memory and hoped everyone played along.
Totally amazing, great work that is so difficult
Thank you!
@@paragondrums my pleasure
i wanna be friends with that drum tech. he’s the guy that always has your back.
My worst nightmare would be playing to a metronome all night
Fill me in for someone that doesn't get the dynamics of playing drums onstage in a stadium.
Why is this such a difficult situation?
Is it cause everyone else is playing too the click track, so he can't just play how you would at a jam?
Or cause the sound he's getting back from the stage speakers echoing back to him is on such a delay it will throw him off?
When they have in-ears I guess there's no monitor speakers?
Remember the song by memory? Uhm.. is that a hard thing? 🤔 isn't that the point with live shows? Never really been a big fan of when bands use click tracks, it removes the potential to let the drummer decide the groove and flow depending on the song and venue.
Firstly he can't hear his own beat, so everything is only what you think you're playing. You ever sang a song while listening it on earphones? Remember that you suck at it because you dont know what pitch your voice is and didn't adjust? That's him but he plays nicely and most importantly, on beat. Secondly, when you reach his level, the amount of songs you have learnt to play is unimaginable, so there is bound to be beats you forget.
The key here is not to have any kind of groove at all.
What people don't realize is techs are actually musicians by trade. This is what makes them great techs because they understand and can relate to the actual player, these are not techs that can't play but techs that can, and that is what makes them great!!!!
Does anyone know what pitch means. If you do, then you would know whytge metronome is basically the key to making good recording or all the musicians in the band will possibly be chasing or out running one another if they aren't already seasoned musicians.
That man is the drummer I aspire to be. What a pro, and what a talented freakin dude. Tim is the guitarist I aspire to be too. So smooth, so precise.
Great tech. He saved the day. Btw, you always play from memory.
I make a habit of telling every new wannabe musician of whatever instrument they wanna learn to, "get yourself a metronome and become it" this person is a prime example of just that. No problemo he says.
I don't understand why he needs a metronome, he's literally the time keeper of the band and should know how to play .
This is a prime example of exactly the opposite tho
@@GiacomoVaccari exactly,
be the metronome
fuck where is it
no YOU are the metronome
yeah but where did I put it
dude...
fuck I need someone to tap my leg because i'm a fuckinig bozo
correct....
Mad respect for that
It makes me curious how old school bands were able to perform live, there’s plenty of complex bands from the 90s when technology wasn’t as accessible
Stage monitor speakers. They sat on the stage floor, aimed up at you and in front of you We heard basically what the audience heard. Minus any vocal effects or whatever else you requested. Each musician had their own custom monitor mix that was discussed with the sound guy and dialed in at soundcheck. If you were lucky.
90s = "old school" 🤣
@@zendakk kids
@@zendakk times flies, 90s was 30 years ago
@@anontool2711 that’s really interesting!
That's the best drum tech in history. He literally saved your life. That's a good dude, he deserves every penny of what he gets and even more. And that's a good discipline as well that he can tap on your leg and you stay in sync with his tap, not a lot of drummers can do that. Both of you guys are blessed.
unsung hero !
both absolute chads
drum tech staying on beat for half an hour and the drummer playing from memory? major impressive
“He plays the rest of the song by memory flawlessly” yeah im pretty sure any professional musicians can do that, even i can do it and im not even professional…
Yeah try and do that with any polyphia song when you can’t even hear what you’re playing
@@Kieranh4424 No the problem was with click and the others. He could play, but hard to keep time if others have metronome and you don't.
@@HenritheHorse they practice the song enough times though right?
@@needlesinmyeyes7272 Of course.
drum tech needs a raise
The living proof that EVERY music is, in someway or another, in 4/4
I mean I doubt he was playing an upbeat on the metronome, probably was just doing 1/1 clicks
Polyphia songs are almost always in 4/4
What song is this/are these? I need to start listening to more polyphia, yesterday I was thinking where can I find some really good instrumental work, today I found it.
After some digging I think it’s
O.D.
And
Ichronic
Pretty neat
Drum techs are top of the line now days!!!!
Am I the only one who would hate to be in a rock band where I had to have a metronome all the time?
Yea, I always thought metronomes were a thing for practice to tighten up as a band not an onstage thing
Im not talking shit cause those guys are talented af, but in my opinion, when your music is that complex, it all just ends up sounding pretentious and boring. Like, I don't care that you can play in every key and time signature possible in one song... But what does an old punk rocker know? Lol
It wouldn't be as big of a deal if he just lost his met but he wasn't able to hear anyone else so he would know if he was in time
If your band has additional synths, ambience, guitar leads, etc. you’ve got no choice. I personally love it, especially if my bandmates are also wearing in ear monitors and hearing the click. You can start songs off without warning, no count in. I can’t play without one nowadays.
I’m not surprised. Dude is clearly A beast on the drums. It’s easy to remember all of your own parts when you make your own parts just throwing that out there. He is A drummer so by nature he is A performer. If you don’t understand this then you are just learning this, but it goes to show he made his own stuff, he practiced A lot, and he is exceptional at what he practiced A lot.
Definitely should be the other drummer for sure..or get him his own gig opportunities just for his willingness to be selfless💪🏾🔥
Wooooow that dude deserves a bonus for that - kept the show going thanks to that quick thinking
Ive been "that guy" SO MANNY TIMES!!!!
if it *can* go wrong. it *will* go wrong. and it'll happen live. lmao
Happens to all of us at some point…
It is legitimately one of the worsts things that a drummer can go through. Playing blind gives me a heart attack lol
I'm guessing this is a polyphia concert
It's the Biggest Nightmare besides chasing your kit across the stage when your bass drum foot pegs breaks hold,,,🤣🤣,,Ill never forget that one
Couldn’t he just take his ear plugs out and play ? 😂
The stage is huge and there are no monitors for him to hear the guitars
@@petratetris5944 well back in the 90s I went to many metal shows and no drummers had headphones or ear buds lol turn the amps up 😂
The musicians are using in-ear monitors, so if they take them out of their ears they'll barely be able hear anything clearly enough to be able to play along, which is especially important for the drummer. With smaller venues/bands it's more common to use floor monitors, which is what was used more often 20+ years ago.
@@MaidenOfMusic I’ve played in a few bands we didn’t need floor monitors, I Know musicians use them but I don’t think there as necessary as people think