Gabriel has some of the best funk guitar and bass parts of the last 30 years. Not to mention the most soulful white voice still working today (RIP Gregg Allman). Those darn Brits can do anything....
It’s funny you should say that cuz actor Peter Weller who played Robocop said he listened to this song on a Walkman while filming the shootout at the factory scene.
I think the best thing about tim is those faces he pulls! That last one is a classic - `heres a great fast lick ` - did I get away with that? - Yes !! Then he laughs - just great to watch and listen to.
7:05 ... that was some of the most beautiful notes I've ever heard lol. Really. I had to go back and hear it a few times. Peter needs to call you for a 2021 35th anniversary remix edition. That is amazing work for this song. And it's work that wasn't necessary because the song was perfect before. But man, great added work on top of it.
I remember when I got this record and played it the first time. The hi-hat intro with all its intricacies and then the exploding piano. Still gives me goosebumps. Funnily enough, whenever I play over this song for fun, go for something similar to the r’n’b riff you played. But you do it much better. One of my favourite songs ever, and the parts you play would suit it very well. 👍
I've been doing this for a long time, simply because it's easier than leaning the original guitar parts. To hear a master like you recommending it makes me feel good!
Practicing over songs was the single best advice I was given when I was younger, that mixed with playing with other people is huge in learning your roles and parts! Thanks Tim!
Gabriel's songs are so subtle complex if you start listening more closely. When Rick Beato dissected Peter's work in the series What Makes This Song Great, I realized how much almost inaudible work has been done to contribute to the sound.
In your eyes, great to play ruclips.net/video/qXvTzgQGYL8/видео.html I still haven't nailed Solisbury Hill but I should I visited it daily once upon a time.
By the way, Tim: Have you seen Rick Beato's 'What if Frampton, VH and Eric Johnson had played the 'Stairway To Heaven' solo?' video? I'd be keen to hear what *you* would've played! Maybe an idea for an episode?! ;-))
Thanks for indulging us! As more of a hard rock guy, I really loved when you opened up on the soloing at the end, especially that end around 7:52, and the second time through (reminded me of Lukather on some of those faster phrases). Always enjoy your videos 🤘😎🤘
My new wild guitar fantasy is having you write and record guitar parts for my songs! Great work as always sir. I love the new textures your guitar parts added to this already great song.
It's great to hear your thought processes and instincts on how you create and manage parts throughout the song. "Increasing presence" also means cultivating and holding listeners' interest; a great lesson for us, and reason why so many of the songs you played on are so memorable. Thanks for posting this!
Great licks Tim , also my favorite thing to do, not in your league , but you always inspire me. Absolutely love your playing and approach to what you play , simply BRILLIANT!!
I've owned this album since it came out and it has remained one of my favourite albums of all time. Owned it in every format, and after all these years I still hear new things in it. Timeless yet very much of its time.
just wanted to say i purchased your master class today Tim and i think its absolutely incredible, had some time to look through a lot of it and for the money it costs you can got not go wrong . it has it all and i highly recommend to a guitarist of any level . I've already learned a few things to take away from it in the first sitting . thanks for your great work you are a truly inspiring musician and i think anybody can learn something from you . 👍👍👍
Ever since my first 4track it was such an eye opener as a learning tool to track along with my fav tunes. As if I was at the session or a gig...then ask myself "would the band be smiling or giving me the stink eye". What a great example and lesson Tim!!
With Peter Gabriel the track can be as full or as empty as you like. He finishes the song with just him on keyboard and voice, and sounds as good as crescendo time.
There’s a band called iio that often has no guitar, but drones endlessly, which serves my purpose and invites guitar lines. Some musicians really appreciate fan contributions too.
Rapture is a great song - I love that kind of music for getting inspired on guitar, precisely because it has no guitar in it. The melodies are so solid in much of that house music style
ok so hear me out: "Red Rain" is one of my favorite songs, period. not just from the 80s, not just of Peter Gabriel's... period. but i would gladly replace the album version with a recording where you play on top of it. you and your playing fit right in and feel at home in this song.
Sounds great Tim ! Awesome song indeed, but most of PG's work is. As a side note, I was lucky enough to run sound for Levon Minassian, who plays duduk on Us and Secret World Live, and he was a joy to work with, very graceful (he saw I obviously was a bit nervous) and one of the fastest soundchecks I ever went through. he required a SM57, no monitor, told me "try to make it sound natural, then slap some verb and echo, and it'll be fine". Played for 2 minutes, then went "that's very good, make sure to store that !". Then thanked me after the show. Great great guy, and one hell of a stellar musician.
What,s interesting with Gabriel is that guitar parts seem to crystallize when they play them live. Watch any live videos of this from the late 80s, you'll hear what David Rhodes is playing much clearer. In my band, we've been playing Gabriel covers for years and I usually mix what I hear from the album and early live versions (as close as possible after the album's release). That said, what Rhodes is playing is usually quite simple. Check ou Beato's analysis of of In Your Eyes. Very interesting ;) Stems from Games Without Frontiers can also be found. Also, having listened to Gabriel since the late 70s and reading a lot about him too, he wouldn't have let Rhodes (or anyone else) play an actual lead ;)
I've always done this. First it was with an album,CD, or radio. Now I put on a Sirius/XM channel and go. Whatever song comes on I have to find the key and play along. It ear training and harmonic practice all at once. And a lot of fun!
I have always loved to do this. Even with MTV back in the early days! I had a girlfriend tell me, "You're not playing the song" in a derogatory way. In my mind, I was playing what I would play to the song if covering or recreating. Now, in worship band, I can easily find parts to play and hear the chords and structure. Great practice skill!
Wonderful advice...I've been doing this since I was a kid around 10. It's how I learned ...grab an album that is beyond you and play along...and keep going round and round till your ears figure out what to play...I'm now 57 and still do this...
@@timpierceguitar hi Tim, I started playing back in about 1972 when I around 8. Back then the only way to learn was put on an album and play along. I devoured albums that had techniques and scales and styles I'd not heard before. Put it on the turntable...put the needle down...pick up your guitar...and play along....all day till you had it down. I'd use the album as a "backing track". This then enabled me to jam with anybody as to me it was just like playing along with a album. I treated sessions the same way...
So much respect man. You've got some sort of taste. It's natural and adds to the song. Great job. I love this tune too. Now it'll never be enough without you.
Thanks bud, I'm probably wrong again, I've allways seen the session guy as the person brought in to add the sophistication to the music. Respect, and please stay healthy all.
that last minute added finale at 11:25 ish made me laugh with so much musical satisfaction, you're awesome man, so slick with your guitar playing... :-)
That was fantastic Tim!!!!! I so wish you had played on that album. You're right, the guitars are pretty buried in that song. Man, you have a great sense of harmony and phrasing. You Made my day. Please go back to doing the Tim and Pete show again.
Great song and terrific playing as always, I love this 80's style and tone. A great guitar player people don't often analyze and who has amazing percussive feel and tone is Jamie West Oram from The Fixx.
80's studio records like Peter Gabriel's, and Genesis had a lot of layered production on them. Almost like The Wall of Sound. They're great for playing guitar with / over. Tim makes it sound like He was recorded on the original recording.
I used to work for Peter Gabriel at Real World studios taking care of his websites. He's a truly nice guy and has an amazing community of creatives around him.
@@timpierceguitar it’s not possible for you to disrespect any piece of music, you bring so much warmth and love to everything you play, it’s truly inspiring.
One thing I liked doing back in the day (80's) was put on top 40 radio and just try to play along. I was a little metalhead at the time, but the challenge of trying to fit in with random music was good fun.
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"So." is an absolute sonic masterpiece and masterclass in production and songwriting.
Gabriel has some of the best funk guitar and bass parts of the last 30 years. Not to mention the most soulful white voice still working today (RIP Gregg Allman). Those darn Brits can do anything....
Great stuff Tim! One of my fav albums of all.
Love that lick at the end and your reaction to it Tim. That's what playing guitar is all about.
Your rendition of Red Rain makes me think of a badass cop show of the 80's. The world deserves that !
It’s funny you should say that cuz actor Peter Weller who played Robocop said he listened to this song on a Walkman while filming the shootout at the factory scene.
Very tasteful Tim! Almost a hint of a Gilmour vibe in places...
I think the best thing about tim is those faces he pulls! That last one is a classic - `heres a great fast lick ` - did I get away with that? - Yes !! Then he laughs - just great to watch and listen to.
Peter Gabriel one of my favorite artist of all time and for sure one of my all time favorite concerts.
I swear, I learn more from just watching Tim kick around than anything else. Dude, you’re insane. Always inspiring. 😎🤟🏽
7:05 ... that was some of the most beautiful notes I've ever heard lol. Really. I had to go back and hear it a few times. Peter needs to call you for a 2021 35th anniversary remix edition. That is amazing work for this song. And it's work that wasn't necessary because the song was perfect before. But man, great added work on top of it.
Thanks so much for the kind words
Had a real Alex Lifeson vibe to it. Nice.
@@ZonkerRoberts to my ear it was Gilmour meets Nile Rodgers with a nice dose of Pierce haha.
0.36 to 2.21 That was beautiful...I got choked up...wow
Love "Digging in the Dirt" ..my fav PG song.
Your lessons and stories are always invaluable and exciting to come back to. Cheers for your work as always
@Shaun Kellison Haha!
I remember when I got this record and played it the first time. The hi-hat intro with all its intricacies and then the exploding piano. Still gives me goosebumps. Funnily enough, whenever I play over this song for fun, go for something similar to the r’n’b riff you played. But you do it much better. One of my favourite songs ever, and the parts you play would suit it very well. 👍
If I remember correctly, it's Stewart Copeland playing the hi-hat on 'Red Rain' :-)
@@mightyV444 Yes, you’re right. That’s Copeland on the hi-hat. And Jerry Marotta plays on the rest of the song.
@@matnukin1584 - Cool. Thank you for confirming, Mat! :-)
Peter is one of the top artists out there!
Holy CRAP!!!! Thats amazing! Tim, I have never thought I could like this song better than I ever could. Thanks my man!
I've been doing this for a long time, simply because it's easier than leaning the original guitar parts. To hear a master like you recommending it makes me feel good!
Practicing over songs was the single best advice I was given when I was younger, that mixed with playing with other people is huge in learning your roles and parts! Thanks Tim!
Thanks for sharing!!
@@timpierceguitar - I have always plagiarized over songs :) still working on Wild Thing 50 years later ...
No better way to learn something than by just doing it. There is no shortcuts in getting good at anything.
You took an amazing song to a next level. That's Tim Pierce.
Gabriel's songs are so subtle complex if you start listening more closely.
When Rick Beato dissected Peter's work in the series What Makes This Song Great, I realized how much almost inaudible work has been done to contribute to the sound.
In your eyes, great to play ruclips.net/video/qXvTzgQGYL8/видео.html I still haven't nailed Solisbury Hill but I should I visited it daily once upon a time.
I must say the feel and pocket structure that you establish is bar none outstanding. I’m immersed instantly in the flow. Extremely well done sir!
Wow, thank you!
By the way, Tim: Have you seen Rick Beato's 'What if Frampton, VH and Eric Johnson had played the 'Stairway To Heaven' solo?' video? I'd be keen to hear what *you* would've played! Maybe an idea for an episode?! ;-))
Wishing you the best in these trying times, thanks Tim!
All of us are feeling it thank you so much
Nice work Tim, that nice blend of adding guitar without overwhelming what is already there
"The top of the chord and the bottom of the chord and leave the open G and D for drone..." Thanks for the lesson Maestro!!
Tim, thank you for all your video's. You are such a wonderful person and inspiration. I so enjoy watching your posts.
Thanks for indulging us! As more of a hard rock guy, I really loved when you opened up on the soloing at the end, especially that end around 7:52, and the second time through (reminded me of Lukather on some of those faster phrases). Always enjoy your videos 🤘😎🤘
Love Peter Gabriel. Great album!
Me too!
The second CD I ever bought.
Red rain is also one of my favorites from peter gabriel. This song has such a Nice vibe.
Brilliant! One of my favourite tracks from one of the best album of all time. You did it justice.
Hey Tim, that's how you play a song and band supportive guitar! Great job! Thanks for sharing!
My new wild guitar fantasy is having you write and record guitar parts for my songs! Great work as always sir. I love the new textures your guitar parts added to this already great song.
I’m going to see him next month and I couldn’t be more excited
Tim, INSPIRED playing on this!!!!!! Fantastic, as usual.
It's great to hear your thought processes and instincts on how you create and manage parts throughout the song. "Increasing presence" also means cultivating and holding listeners' interest; a great lesson for us, and reason why so many of the songs you played on are so memorable. Thanks for posting this!
A master class in coming up with guitar parts. Thank you Tim!
Love this Tim - always a favourite of mine too - your playing sounds terrific- as always 👍🎸🎶
Great licks Tim , also my favorite thing to do, not in your league , but you always inspire me. Absolutely love your playing and approach to what you play , simply BRILLIANT!!
This was especially good fun to watch. I'm a big Gabriel fan and love this track.
I've owned this album since it came out and it has remained one of my favourite albums of all time. Owned it in every format, and after all these years I still hear new things in it. Timeless yet very much of its time.
just wanted to say i purchased your master class today Tim and i think its absolutely incredible, had some time to look through a lot of it and for the money it costs you can got not go wrong . it has it all and i highly recommend to a guitarist of any level . I've already learned a few things to take away from it in the first sitting . thanks for your great work you are a truly inspiring musician and i think anybody can learn something from you . 👍👍👍
Wow, thank you!
That guitar is a work of art.. great machine
The master at work. Nicely done, Tim. Your style and melody are just so good.
it's nice to know my old habits are good ones! Thanks! Cheers!
Ever since my first 4track it was such an eye opener as a learning tool to track along with my fav tunes. As if I was at the session or a gig...then ask myself "would the band be smiling or giving me the stink eye". What a great example and lesson Tim!!
Tasty parts, Tim! One of my all time favorite albums -- particularly the bass guitar parts.
Holy Frippertronics Batman... Peter is one of those special musicians that entertains us with visuals as well as ear-gasms
With Peter Gabriel the track can be as full or as empty as you like. He finishes the song with just him on keyboard and voice, and sounds as good as crescendo time.
Seeing that Vox on it's face in the background completes the cockpit perfectly.
There’s a band called iio that often has no guitar, but drones endlessly, which serves my purpose and invites guitar lines. Some musicians really appreciate fan contributions too.
Rapture is a great song - I love that kind of music for getting inspired on guitar, precisely because it has no guitar in it. The melodies are so solid in much of that house music style
ok so hear me out: "Red Rain" is one of my favorite songs, period. not just from the 80s, not just of Peter Gabriel's... period.
but i would gladly replace the album version with a recording where you play on top of it. you and your playing fit right in and feel at home in this song.
Your Chorus Version is brilliant. Love it!
Sounds great Tim ! Awesome song indeed, but most of PG's work is.
As a side note, I was lucky enough to run sound for Levon Minassian, who plays duduk on Us and Secret World Live, and he was a joy to work with, very graceful (he saw I obviously was a bit nervous) and one of the fastest soundchecks I ever went through. he required a SM57, no monitor, told me "try to make it sound natural, then slap some verb and echo, and it'll be fine". Played for 2 minutes, then went "that's very good, make sure to store that !". Then thanked me after the show. Great great guy, and one hell of a stellar musician.
One of my alltime favorite albums.
What,s interesting with Gabriel is that guitar parts seem to crystallize when they play them live. Watch any live videos of this from the late 80s, you'll hear what David Rhodes is playing much clearer. In my band, we've been playing Gabriel covers for years and I usually mix what I hear from the album and early live versions (as close as possible after the album's release).
That said, what Rhodes is playing is usually quite simple. Check ou Beato's analysis of of In Your Eyes. Very interesting ;) Stems from Games Without Frontiers can also be found.
Also, having listened to Gabriel since the late 70s and reading a lot about him too, he wouldn't have let Rhodes (or anyone else) play an actual lead ;)
Always loved this track. So much going on if you hear it on a good system. I loved your fills and solo work there tim.
I've always done this. First it was with an album,CD, or radio. Now I put on a Sirius/XM channel and go. Whatever song comes on I have to find the key and play along. It ear training and harmonic practice all at once. And a lot of fun!
I have always loved to do this. Even with MTV back in the early days! I had a girlfriend tell me, "You're not playing the song" in a derogatory way. In my mind, I was playing what I would play to the song if covering or recreating. Now, in worship band, I can easily find parts to play and hear the chords and structure. Great practice skill!
You cracking yourself up cracks me up. Great stuff!
Very reminiscent of your Toy Matinee fills. Love it❤️✌️
Always enjoyable and that one was really fun to listen to and watch.
Wonderful advice...I've been doing this since I was a kid around 10. It's how I learned ...grab an album that is beyond you and play along...and keep going round and round till your ears figure out what to play...I'm now 57 and still do this...
It's great to hear that I'm not the only one who likes doing this :-)
@@timpierceguitar hi Tim, I started playing back in about 1972 when I around 8. Back then the only way to learn was put on an album and play along. I devoured albums that had techniques and scales and styles I'd not heard before. Put it on the turntable...put the needle down...pick up your guitar...and play along....all day till you had it down. I'd use the album as a "backing track". This then enabled me to jam with anybody as to me it was just like playing along with a album. I treated sessions the same way...
absolutely great, greetings from Italy
Tim, you are an inspiration! Always enjoy your videos.
I appreciate that!
11:25 reminds me of the old practice of maxing out the volume on the fade out to hear the final riffs from the band. Great interpretation.
So much respect man. You've got some sort of taste. It's natural and adds to the song. Great job. I love this tune too. Now it'll never be enough without you.
Simply Brilliant. A wonderful walkthrough of your masterfully creative process. Thank you! Oh, and the cheshire cat smile at 11:29 is the best!
Thank you very much!
This is AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I promise I'll give up Delay to morrow " . . . fn hilarious
Such a great song. I love what you did, too. 👍👍
I love this song (and album) so much. Beautifully done, Tim.
Thanks bud, I'm probably wrong again, I've allways seen the session guy as the person brought in to add the sophistication to the music. Respect, and please stay healthy all.
Watching Tim extract so much Joy from his improvisations is infectious ! Nice one Tim !
Glad you enjoy it!
that last minute added finale at 11:25 ish made me laugh with so much musical satisfaction, you're awesome man, so slick with your guitar playing... :-)
Such a joy watching you play, Tim! And, nice take on one of my fave 80s tunes! Thanks!
This would be no.1 on my dream list of artists I would love to work with! Love it
That was fantastic Tim!!!!! I so wish you had played on that album. You're right, the guitars are pretty buried in that song. Man, you have a great sense of harmony and phrasing. You Made my day. Please go back to doing the Tim and Pete show again.
Sounded awesome!
Love your playing and the way you bring us into your creative process, just discovered you today from Rick Beato’s channel.
Perfect! Thanks Tim, when you smile, I smile....lol
My pleasure
So tasteful!! Great. Fantastic song by the way.
Thanks so much!
That second run at the ending lead reminded me of Gilmour- in a good way!
Comfortably Numb-esque...
Love this. One of my favorite songs. Your creative taste shines.
Really cool version. I believe that one could work live very well!
Great song and terrific playing as always, I love this 80's style and tone. A great guitar player people don't often analyze and who has amazing percussive feel and tone is Jamie West Oram from The Fixx.
Love all you stuff. Thank You
This song just kicks major a$$. Good job.
Thanks Tim! That was a whole lot of fun! :)
Amazing Tim great advice and tips as always!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you, I so dig melody. That was great melody.
Thank you too!
I could listen to your guitar fantasies all day!!!
Are you having a blast or what ? Joyous !
I'm certain my triad knowledge comes directly from your influence Tim and I can't thank you enough!
Very welcome
Playing along with great recordings will train the sense of arrangements.
Found you searching for Red Rain. Instant sub!
80's studio records like Peter Gabriel's, and Genesis had a lot of layered production on them. Almost like The Wall of Sound. They're great for playing guitar with / over. Tim makes it sound like He was recorded on the original recording.
Peter Gabriel has expressed his enthusiasm in "surf guitar" sounds. Your pieces fit well with his interests.
I used to work for Peter Gabriel at Real World studios taking care of his websites. He's a truly nice guy and has an amazing community of creatives around him.
That's so great to hear! I hope I didn't disrespect the song, It's perfect In its original state
@@timpierceguitar it’s not possible for you to disrespect any piece of music, you bring so much warmth and love to everything you play, it’s truly inspiring.
One thing I liked doing back in the day (80's) was put on top 40 radio and just try to play along. I was a little metalhead at the time, but the challenge of trying to fit in with random music was good fun.
Wowww, VERY impressive! And it all fits too, without cluttering the song, in which there's already tons of stuff going on! :-)
Wow, thank you!
@@timpierceguitar - You're welcome! :-)
Brilliant..... Thank you Tim.... :-)