I think the best thing about tim is those faces he pulls! That last one is a classic - `heres a great fast lick ` - did I get away with that? - Yes !! Then he laughs - just great to watch and listen to.
Gabriel has some of the best funk guitar and bass parts of the last 30 years. Not to mention the most soulful white voice still working today (RIP Gregg Allman). Those darn Brits can do anything....
It’s funny you should say that cuz actor Peter Weller who played Robocop said he listened to this song on a Walkman while filming the shootout at the factory scene.
Gabriel's songs are so subtle complex if you start listening more closely. When Rick Beato dissected Peter's work in the series What Makes This Song Great, I realized how much almost inaudible work has been done to contribute to the sound.
In your eyes, great to play ruclips.net/video/qXvTzgQGYL8/видео.html I still haven't nailed Solisbury Hill but I should I visited it daily once upon a time.
7:05 ... that was some of the most beautiful notes I've ever heard lol. Really. I had to go back and hear it a few times. Peter needs to call you for a 2021 35th anniversary remix edition. That is amazing work for this song. And it's work that wasn't necessary because the song was perfect before. But man, great added work on top of it.
I remember when I got this record and played it the first time. The hi-hat intro with all its intricacies and then the exploding piano. Still gives me goosebumps. Funnily enough, whenever I play over this song for fun, go for something similar to the r’n’b riff you played. But you do it much better. One of my favourite songs ever, and the parts you play would suit it very well. 👍
I've been doing this for a long time, simply because it's easier than leaning the original guitar parts. To hear a master like you recommending it makes me feel good!
Thanks bud, I'm probably wrong again, I've allways seen the session guy as the person brought in to add the sophistication to the music. Respect, and please stay healthy all.
With Peter Gabriel the track can be as full or as empty as you like. He finishes the song with just him on keyboard and voice, and sounds as good as crescendo time.
Thanks for indulging us! As more of a hard rock guy, I really loved when you opened up on the soloing at the end, especially that end around 7:52, and the second time through (reminded me of Lukather on some of those faster phrases). Always enjoy your videos 🤘😎🤘
ok so hear me out: "Red Rain" is one of my favorite songs, period. not just from the 80s, not just of Peter Gabriel's... period. but i would gladly replace the album version with a recording where you play on top of it. you and your playing fit right in and feel at home in this song.
Practicing over songs was the single best advice I was given when I was younger, that mixed with playing with other people is huge in learning your roles and parts! Thanks Tim!
I've owned this album since it came out and it has remained one of my favourite albums of all time. Owned it in every format, and after all these years I still hear new things in it. Timeless yet very much of its time.
I used to work for Peter Gabriel at Real World studios taking care of his websites. He's a truly nice guy and has an amazing community of creatives around him.
@@timpierceguitar it’s not possible for you to disrespect any piece of music, you bring so much warmth and love to everything you play, it’s truly inspiring.
There’s a band called iio that often has no guitar, but drones endlessly, which serves my purpose and invites guitar lines. Some musicians really appreciate fan contributions too.
Rapture is a great song - I love that kind of music for getting inspired on guitar, precisely because it has no guitar in it. The melodies are so solid in much of that house music style
Sounds great Tim ! Awesome song indeed, but most of PG's work is. As a side note, I was lucky enough to run sound for Levon Minassian, who plays duduk on Us and Secret World Live, and he was a joy to work with, very graceful (he saw I obviously was a bit nervous) and one of the fastest soundchecks I ever went through. he required a SM57, no monitor, told me "try to make it sound natural, then slap some verb and echo, and it'll be fine". Played for 2 minutes, then went "that's very good, make sure to store that !". Then thanked me after the show. Great great guy, and one hell of a stellar musician.
It's great to hear your thought processes and instincts on how you create and manage parts throughout the song. "Increasing presence" also means cultivating and holding listeners' interest; a great lesson for us, and reason why so many of the songs you played on are so memorable. Thanks for posting this!
Ever since my first 4track it was such an eye opener as a learning tool to track along with my fav tunes. As if I was at the session or a gig...then ask myself "would the band be smiling or giving me the stink eye". What a great example and lesson Tim!!
I've always done this. First it was with an album,CD, or radio. Now I put on a Sirius/XM channel and go. Whatever song comes on I have to find the key and play along. It ear training and harmonic practice all at once. And a lot of fun!
I have always loved to do this. Even with MTV back in the early days! I had a girlfriend tell me, "You're not playing the song" in a derogatory way. In my mind, I was playing what I would play to the song if covering or recreating. Now, in worship band, I can easily find parts to play and hear the chords and structure. Great practice skill!
One thing I liked doing back in the day (80's) was put on top 40 radio and just try to play along. I was a little metalhead at the time, but the challenge of trying to fit in with random music was good fun.
My new wild guitar fantasy is having you write and record guitar parts for my songs! Great work as always sir. I love the new textures your guitar parts added to this already great song.
Wonderful advice...I've been doing this since I was a kid around 10. It's how I learned ...grab an album that is beyond you and play along...and keep going round and round till your ears figure out what to play...I'm now 57 and still do this...
@@timpierceguitar hi Tim, I started playing back in about 1972 when I around 8. Back then the only way to learn was put on an album and play along. I devoured albums that had techniques and scales and styles I'd not heard before. Put it on the turntable...put the needle down...pick up your guitar...and play along....all day till you had it down. I'd use the album as a "backing track". This then enabled me to jam with anybody as to me it was just like playing along with a album. I treated sessions the same way...
What,s interesting with Gabriel is that guitar parts seem to crystallize when they play them live. Watch any live videos of this from the late 80s, you'll hear what David Rhodes is playing much clearer. In my band, we've been playing Gabriel covers for years and I usually mix what I hear from the album and early live versions (as close as possible after the album's release). That said, what Rhodes is playing is usually quite simple. Check ou Beato's analysis of of In Your Eyes. Very interesting ;) Stems from Games Without Frontiers can also be found. Also, having listened to Gabriel since the late 70s and reading a lot about him too, he wouldn't have let Rhodes (or anyone else) play an actual lead ;)
Great song and terrific playing as always, I love this 80's style and tone. A great guitar player people don't often analyze and who has amazing percussive feel and tone is Jamie West Oram from The Fixx.
And sadly overlooked on So and on Us is the absolutely brilliant Stingray bass work and Chapman Stick contributions from Tony Levin, whose playing is just masterful on both albums, a brilliant bass player on all his work with Peter Gabriel.
So much respect man. You've got some sort of taste. It's natural and adds to the song. Great job. I love this tune too. Now it'll never be enough without you.
just wanted to say i purchased your master class today Tim and i think its absolutely incredible, had some time to look through a lot of it and for the money it costs you can got not go wrong . it has it all and i highly recommend to a guitarist of any level . I've already learned a few things to take away from it in the first sitting . thanks for your great work you are a truly inspiring musician and i think anybody can learn something from you . 👍👍👍
Great licks Tim , also my favorite thing to do, not in your league , but you always inspire me. Absolutely love your playing and approach to what you play , simply BRILLIANT!!
That was fantastic Tim!!!!! I so wish you had played on that album. You're right, the guitars are pretty buried in that song. Man, you have a great sense of harmony and phrasing. You Made my day. Please go back to doing the Tim and Pete show again.
80's studio records like Peter Gabriel's, and Genesis had a lot of layered production on them. Almost like The Wall of Sound. They're great for playing guitar with / over. Tim makes it sound like He was recorded on the original recording.
that last minute added finale at 11:25 ish made me laugh with so much musical satisfaction, you're awesome man, so slick with your guitar playing... :-)
By the way, Tim: Have you seen Rick Beato's 'What if Frampton, VH and Eric Johnson had played the 'Stairway To Heaven' solo?' video? I'd be keen to hear what *you* would've played! Maybe an idea for an episode?! ;-))
Up until the bridge soloing, I like those additions to this amazing song. Except for the climbing inversions - only because the song is about one of Gabriel's recurring nightmares.
This! I agree. I like the soloing, but Tim's playing makes it seem way too light hearted for the song's purpose. Peter, I'm sure, was meticulous as a surgeon when crafting his songs. Soloing of that kind would have been left out. However, this is just to show what someone can do and achieve when playing along to their favorite songs...
Does Tim's guitar improve the track? Absolutely not, but it's not the point. Tim's confidence, creativity and mastery of the instrument is what makes this so much fun. Well done!
I think the best thing about tim is those faces he pulls! That last one is a classic - `heres a great fast lick ` - did I get away with that? - Yes !! Then he laughs - just great to watch and listen to.
Gabriel has some of the best funk guitar and bass parts of the last 30 years. Not to mention the most soulful white voice still working today (RIP Gregg Allman). Those darn Brits can do anything....
"So." is an absolute sonic masterpiece and masterclass in production and songwriting.
Great stuff Tim! One of my fav albums of all.
Your rendition of Red Rain makes me think of a badass cop show of the 80's. The world deserves that !
It’s funny you should say that cuz actor Peter Weller who played Robocop said he listened to this song on a Walkman while filming the shootout at the factory scene.
Love that lick at the end and your reaction to it Tim. That's what playing guitar is all about.
Love "Digging in the Dirt" ..my fav PG song.
Peter Gabriel one of my favorite artist of all time and for sure one of my all time favorite concerts.
Very tasteful Tim! Almost a hint of a Gilmour vibe in places...
0.36 to 2.21 That was beautiful...I got choked up...wow
I swear, I learn more from just watching Tim kick around than anything else. Dude, you’re insane. Always inspiring. 😎🤟🏽
Holy Frippertronics Batman... Peter is one of those special musicians that entertains us with visuals as well as ear-gasms
Gabriel's songs are so subtle complex if you start listening more closely.
When Rick Beato dissected Peter's work in the series What Makes This Song Great, I realized how much almost inaudible work has been done to contribute to the sound.
In your eyes, great to play ruclips.net/video/qXvTzgQGYL8/видео.html I still haven't nailed Solisbury Hill but I should I visited it daily once upon a time.
Seeing that Vox on it's face in the background completes the cockpit perfectly.
You took an amazing song to a next level. That's Tim Pierce.
Peter is one of the top artists out there!
7:05 ... that was some of the most beautiful notes I've ever heard lol. Really. I had to go back and hear it a few times. Peter needs to call you for a 2021 35th anniversary remix edition. That is amazing work for this song. And it's work that wasn't necessary because the song was perfect before. But man, great added work on top of it.
Thanks so much for the kind words
Had a real Alex Lifeson vibe to it. Nice.
@@ZonkerRoberts to my ear it was Gilmour meets Nile Rodgers with a nice dose of Pierce haha.
I remember when I got this record and played it the first time. The hi-hat intro with all its intricacies and then the exploding piano. Still gives me goosebumps. Funnily enough, whenever I play over this song for fun, go for something similar to the r’n’b riff you played. But you do it much better. One of my favourite songs ever, and the parts you play would suit it very well. 👍
If I remember correctly, it's Stewart Copeland playing the hi-hat on 'Red Rain' :-)
@@mightyV444 Yes, you’re right. That’s Copeland on the hi-hat. And Jerry Marotta plays on the rest of the song.
@@matnukin1584 - Cool. Thank you for confirming, Mat! :-)
I've been doing this for a long time, simply because it's easier than leaning the original guitar parts. To hear a master like you recommending it makes me feel good!
"The top of the chord and the bottom of the chord and leave the open G and D for drone..." Thanks for the lesson Maestro!!
Holy CRAP!!!! Thats amazing! Tim, I have never thought I could like this song better than I ever could. Thanks my man!
Thanks bud, I'm probably wrong again, I've allways seen the session guy as the person brought in to add the sophistication to the music. Respect, and please stay healthy all.
With Peter Gabriel the track can be as full or as empty as you like. He finishes the song with just him on keyboard and voice, and sounds as good as crescendo time.
Thanks for indulging us! As more of a hard rock guy, I really loved when you opened up on the soloing at the end, especially that end around 7:52, and the second time through (reminded me of Lukather on some of those faster phrases). Always enjoy your videos 🤘😎🤘
ok so hear me out: "Red Rain" is one of my favorite songs, period. not just from the 80s, not just of Peter Gabriel's... period.
but i would gladly replace the album version with a recording where you play on top of it. you and your playing fit right in and feel at home in this song.
Red rain is also one of my favorites from peter gabriel. This song has such a Nice vibe.
Practicing over songs was the single best advice I was given when I was younger, that mixed with playing with other people is huge in learning your roles and parts! Thanks Tim!
Thanks for sharing!!
@@timpierceguitar - I have always plagiarized over songs :) still working on Wild Thing 50 years later ...
No better way to learn something than by just doing it. There is no shortcuts in getting good at anything.
Tim, INSPIRED playing on this!!!!!! Fantastic, as usual.
Your lessons and stories are always invaluable and exciting to come back to. Cheers for your work as always
@Shaun Kellison Haha!
I've owned this album since it came out and it has remained one of my favourite albums of all time. Owned it in every format, and after all these years I still hear new things in it. Timeless yet very much of its time.
I used to work for Peter Gabriel at Real World studios taking care of his websites. He's a truly nice guy and has an amazing community of creatives around him.
That's so great to hear! I hope I didn't disrespect the song, It's perfect In its original state
@@timpierceguitar it’s not possible for you to disrespect any piece of music, you bring so much warmth and love to everything you play, it’s truly inspiring.
Love Peter Gabriel. Great album!
Me too!
The second CD I ever bought.
Wishing you the best in these trying times, thanks Tim!
All of us are feeling it thank you so much
There’s a band called iio that often has no guitar, but drones endlessly, which serves my purpose and invites guitar lines. Some musicians really appreciate fan contributions too.
Rapture is a great song - I love that kind of music for getting inspired on guitar, precisely because it has no guitar in it. The melodies are so solid in much of that house music style
Sounds great Tim ! Awesome song indeed, but most of PG's work is.
As a side note, I was lucky enough to run sound for Levon Minassian, who plays duduk on Us and Secret World Live, and he was a joy to work with, very graceful (he saw I obviously was a bit nervous) and one of the fastest soundchecks I ever went through. he required a SM57, no monitor, told me "try to make it sound natural, then slap some verb and echo, and it'll be fine". Played for 2 minutes, then went "that's very good, make sure to store that !". Then thanked me after the show. Great great guy, and one hell of a stellar musician.
This was especially good fun to watch. I'm a big Gabriel fan and love this track.
I’m going to see him next month and I couldn’t be more excited
It's great to hear your thought processes and instincts on how you create and manage parts throughout the song. "Increasing presence" also means cultivating and holding listeners' interest; a great lesson for us, and reason why so many of the songs you played on are so memorable. Thanks for posting this!
Ever since my first 4track it was such an eye opener as a learning tool to track along with my fav tunes. As if I was at the session or a gig...then ask myself "would the band be smiling or giving me the stink eye". What a great example and lesson Tim!!
I've always done this. First it was with an album,CD, or radio. Now I put on a Sirius/XM channel and go. Whatever song comes on I have to find the key and play along. It ear training and harmonic practice all at once. And a lot of fun!
I have always loved to do this. Even with MTV back in the early days! I had a girlfriend tell me, "You're not playing the song" in a derogatory way. In my mind, I was playing what I would play to the song if covering or recreating. Now, in worship band, I can easily find parts to play and hear the chords and structure. Great practice skill!
One thing I liked doing back in the day (80's) was put on top 40 radio and just try to play along. I was a little metalhead at the time, but the challenge of trying to fit in with random music was good fun.
I must say the feel and pocket structure that you establish is bar none outstanding. I’m immersed instantly in the flow. Extremely well done sir!
Wow, thank you!
My new wild guitar fantasy is having you write and record guitar parts for my songs! Great work as always sir. I love the new textures your guitar parts added to this already great song.
Wonderful advice...I've been doing this since I was a kid around 10. It's how I learned ...grab an album that is beyond you and play along...and keep going round and round till your ears figure out what to play...I'm now 57 and still do this...
It's great to hear that I'm not the only one who likes doing this :-)
@@timpierceguitar hi Tim, I started playing back in about 1972 when I around 8. Back then the only way to learn was put on an album and play along. I devoured albums that had techniques and scales and styles I'd not heard before. Put it on the turntable...put the needle down...pick up your guitar...and play along....all day till you had it down. I'd use the album as a "backing track". This then enabled me to jam with anybody as to me it was just like playing along with a album. I treated sessions the same way...
it's nice to know my old habits are good ones! Thanks! Cheers!
Hey Tim, that's how you play a song and band supportive guitar! Great job! Thanks for sharing!
Brilliant! One of my favourite tracks from one of the best album of all time. You did it justice.
One of my alltime favorite albums.
This would be no.1 on my dream list of artists I would love to work with! Love it
The master at work. Nicely done, Tim. Your style and melody are just so good.
This is AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tasty parts, Tim! One of my all time favorite albums -- particularly the bass guitar parts.
Nice work Tim, that nice blend of adding guitar without overwhelming what is already there
A master class in coming up with guitar parts. Thank you Tim!
What,s interesting with Gabriel is that guitar parts seem to crystallize when they play them live. Watch any live videos of this from the late 80s, you'll hear what David Rhodes is playing much clearer. In my band, we've been playing Gabriel covers for years and I usually mix what I hear from the album and early live versions (as close as possible after the album's release).
That said, what Rhodes is playing is usually quite simple. Check ou Beato's analysis of of In Your Eyes. Very interesting ;) Stems from Games Without Frontiers can also be found.
Also, having listened to Gabriel since the late 70s and reading a lot about him too, he wouldn't have let Rhodes (or anyone else) play an actual lead ;)
Tim, thank you for all your video's. You are such a wonderful person and inspiration. I so enjoy watching your posts.
EVH used to calibrate his studio monitors to this tune... Enough said!
I have heard that if you were there at 5150 the volume from the monitors was DEAFENING. Ok,then!
Never knew that, but I use this track/album to dial in every stereo system or HiFi system I've ever owned.
Watching Tim extract so much Joy from his improvisations is infectious ! Nice one Tim !
Glad you enjoy it!
Very reminiscent of your Toy Matinee fills. Love it❤️✌️
11:25 reminds me of the old practice of maxing out the volume on the fade out to hear the final riffs from the band. Great interpretation.
I could listen to your guitar fantasies all day!!!
Great song and terrific playing as always, I love this 80's style and tone. A great guitar player people don't often analyze and who has amazing percussive feel and tone is Jamie West Oram from The Fixx.
That guitar is a work of art.. great machine
And sadly overlooked on So and on Us is the absolutely brilliant Stingray bass work and Chapman Stick contributions from Tony Levin, whose playing is just masterful on both albums, a brilliant bass player on all his work with Peter Gabriel.
So much respect man. You've got some sort of taste. It's natural and adds to the song. Great job. I love this tune too. Now it'll never be enough without you.
just wanted to say i purchased your master class today Tim and i think its absolutely incredible, had some time to look through a lot of it and for the money it costs you can got not go wrong . it has it all and i highly recommend to a guitarist of any level . I've already learned a few things to take away from it in the first sitting . thanks for your great work you are a truly inspiring musician and i think anybody can learn something from you . 👍👍👍
Wow, thank you!
I'm certain my triad knowledge comes directly from your influence Tim and I can't thank you enough!
Very welcome
Great licks Tim , also my favorite thing to do, not in your league , but you always inspire me. Absolutely love your playing and approach to what you play , simply BRILLIANT!!
One of EVH’s favorite songs.
Your Chorus Version is brilliant. Love it!
Peter Gabriel has expressed his enthusiasm in "surf guitar" sounds. Your pieces fit well with his interests.
That was fantastic Tim!!!!! I so wish you had played on that album. You're right, the guitars are pretty buried in that song. Man, you have a great sense of harmony and phrasing. You Made my day. Please go back to doing the Tim and Pete show again.
I love this song (and album) so much. Beautifully done, Tim.
Love this Tim - always a favourite of mine too - your playing sounds terrific- as always 👍🎸🎶
Playing along with great recordings will train the sense of arrangements.
Tim, you are an inspiration! Always enjoy your videos.
I appreciate that!
That second run at the ending lead reminded me of Gilmour- in a good way!
Comfortably Numb-esque...
Always loved this track. So much going on if you hear it on a good system. I loved your fills and solo work there tim.
80's studio records like Peter Gabriel's, and Genesis had a lot of layered production on them. Almost like The Wall of Sound. They're great for playing guitar with / over. Tim makes it sound like He was recorded on the original recording.
Such a joy watching you play, Tim! And, nice take on one of my fave 80s tunes! Thanks!
It may not need you playing on it, but it's even better when you do. Tasteful and excellent!
Love this. One of my favorite songs. Your creative taste shines.
absolutely great, greetings from Italy
that last minute added finale at 11:25 ish made me laugh with so much musical satisfaction, you're awesome man, so slick with your guitar playing... :-)
By the way, Tim: Have you seen Rick Beato's 'What if Frampton, VH and Eric Johnson had played the 'Stairway To Heaven' solo?' video? I'd be keen to hear what *you* would've played! Maybe an idea for an episode?! ;-))
Up until the bridge soloing, I like those additions to this amazing song. Except for the climbing inversions - only because the song is about one of Gabriel's recurring nightmares.
This!
I agree. I like the soloing, but Tim's playing makes it seem way too light hearted for the song's purpose.
Peter, I'm sure, was meticulous as a surgeon when crafting his songs. Soloing of that kind would have been left out.
However, this is just to show what someone can do and achieve when playing along to their favorite songs...
"I promise I'll give up Delay to morrow " . . . fn hilarious
Really cool version. I believe that one could work live very well!
Always enjoyable and that one was really fun to listen to and watch.
6:45 that's beautiful Tim!
I love this song. In fact I love the whole record!
Tim : this was fantastic playing routine : brillianT !!!!! 🙏🏼Namaste🌿
You cracking yourself up cracks me up. Great stuff!
Thank you, I so dig melody. That was great melody.
Thank you too!
Found you searching for Red Rain. Instant sub!
Does Tim's guitar improve the track? Absolutely not, but it's not the point. Tim's confidence, creativity and mastery of the instrument is what makes this so much fun. Well done!
Simply Brilliant. A wonderful walkthrough of your masterfully creative process. Thank you! Oh, and the cheshire cat smile at 11:29 is the best!
Thank you very much!
Thanks Tim! That was a whole lot of fun! :)
One of my favorite Gabriel tunes as well, very cool to hear your take on it.
Such a great song. I love what you did, too. 👍👍
Are you having a blast or what ? Joyous !