Should I Chop My Wagon 4wd?😮😮
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The guys at @raslarrengineering4281 have been doing a fair few chopped Y62s lately, so i figured i should give you a more in depth look at what they are like on the inside and out.
Im so keen to get this done to mine but i want to know what you guys think of the Pros and cons of both setups.
Thanks for watching
raslarr is looking a bit bigger than when they did my gq rear bar 15 odd years ago in the little factory in clegg rd.rob was a legend. i went back a year later for swingaways and he noticed my rear bar powdercoat was a bit scuffed so he took the bar off without telling me and repowder coated without charging me.great bloke even better customer service.
And he would still do the same for a customer today. He hasn’t changed at all
The thing I hated the most about my Y62 was the rattling in the back; it drove me crazy. If
money allows canopy 100%
I've only had wagons, and while I love them, the rear quarters are kinda vulnerable till you put a good rear bar on them, access inside, even with openable side windows is never quite as good as a canopy. The win with the ute conversion to me is you get the best of both worlds. Have a 1/2 size canopy for the stuff you need sealed from the weather and have the rear open for firewood, chainsaw and whatever else you want to put in the back.
Just the small matter of buying the wagon..... then spending another $30-$40k to turn it into a ute......
It’s that price tag that’s holding me back.
love the tech stuff - surprising weight comparison even allowing for all your gear onboard.
Nicely finished off ute there👌
If you can afford it, chop it. Nothing like being able to build your canopy into the ultimate camp mate. I’ve got a GU wagon and I’d definitely prefer the option of a canopy instead of the wagon. Do it!
Have only had wagon 4x4 and have been hanging for a ute version for some years now, so I say ute Y62. Thanks for the content. Cheers
You’re more the welcome. Glad you liked it
Robs new shop looks great. We have a ute for work and a wagon which is setup for touring. I think if l set the ute up for touring the tray high would make it very hard for the wife. I know a lot of gear can go under the tray but she doesn't want to use any of that stuff.
If you're going to chop it, get Reuben from DMW on it. His conversions are next level. IMO just leave it the way it is. You don't need to chop it now that you have the van
Always had wagons and never thought I’d want a Ute, now I have a Silverado 2500 with tray and canopy and will honestly never go back. The usability of a well setup canopy is far superior to a wagon in every way.
Except when you want to tow as well, most canopy setups are close to gvm
So you want to chop your wagon into a ute then prob put a canopy on it to turn it back into a wagon...waste of money dont you think?
A canopy is removable so you are getting a wagon ( canopy ) and a Ute in one really. 😁😁
Just buy a cheap ute if you need one, it'd be a pain in the arse removing a canopy all the time
Not only a waste of money, but the weight, the centre of weight. You end up over loading them…..but definitely want one for sure!
Hey Steve. Great video, I'd stick with a set up like yours over the tray. Having something camping or trip ready has too many advantages.
I’m fairly sure I’m sticking with the wagon. Largely due to overall cost haha
Keep the wagon for family stuff. They’re engineered, tested and designed to work well that way. Sure you’ll get versatility but it comes at a cost. And the big question is…. Do you NEED it?
Buy an old Ute for funsies.
Yeah that’s kinda the plan.
I’m fairly happy with the wagon setup and the cost of chopping it is fairly high.
So it’s cheaper for me to just buy a weekend play car do that
Forgive my ignorance, but whats the advantage to chopping a wagon, rather than just buying a ute in the first place?
My theory is.. if you have enough dollars of course.. the only LARGE 4wd utes were your LandCruiser 79 and GU patrol...
The patrol was only 2 door and they stopped making them, so that's out
The 79 dual cab your getting an uncomfortable, basic as ute for the dollars so that's gone
So all that leaves out of your large 4wds are wagons such as 300,200 LandCruiser and y62 patrol.. which both have big engines, tow well and lots of comfort. But no ute version.. so hence the chop
Yes.. you can go out and buy an American ute, ram, chev, f250.. but you also have to consider if your in the middle of nowhere, what are your chances of getting spare parts..
The price, especially if you get the 2500 model your at 150k before any modifications
There is many pros and cons
I can't afford any of these anyway so 🤷😂
I'm with you there 😊
Four use it for everything ute is better because you can just run a jack off canopy.. or if ya really flush with cash have two different canopy's
I have big dogs that like to get dirty and smelly, and i live in a hot climate, so a wagon is a good idea but you cant use the back with dogs. My nav has a 5910 gcm so have to be really careful with weights. I like the 7 tonne gcm of the patrol but need a ute for my dogs. And fukc buying a 79.
Might be a perfect fit
chop it Steve chop it, i have had five wagons and after having a tray (less body to damage on the tracks) would not go back to a wagon
How would it go with a 600 chassis extension to reduce rear overhang?
That was part of the point of the video. With the size tray it doesn’t have anymore overhand then a standard car with a rear bar on.
Of course if you done a chassis extension you could have a bigger tray or reduce the tray and have less overhang. But you’re adding another 20-30kg of work
@@Australian4x4Adventures I think the best part of a 600 extension is not about tray it's to get rear wheels further back and weight further forward of wheels. From physics point of view, should be better balanced?
When people normally do a chassis extension they opt for a longer tray meaning the overhang stays exactly the same. If you are doing a ute conversion purely for off-road purposes then you could definitely get it designed to reduce overhang but (I’m going to say all) extensions cut the chassis before the rear diff and push everything back as it’s a hell of a lot easier than removing the rear subframe in the case of a Patrol and moving it further back and remounting it in a different location.
Someone after a freebie perhaps
Hahaha. Who wouldn’t be 😂. But no, rob had said to me before I even asked him about doing a video comparing the two. That it couldn’t be a freeby due to the overall cost. But yes he did offer me a rather large discount if I did really want it done.
I’m prolly not going to get it done because I don’t think it fully suits my needs long term.
you said you have 300-400 kgs that you can throw in the wagon before you reach your limit. Does that include passengers? when you throw your caravan on the back, does that mean your current set up, with a 300kg tow ball weight added to your wagon, you are at the limit BEFORE you put passengers and any gear in the back? and fuel?
That was with full fuel tanks already. And I mean to the brim full.
It was still plus passengers and ball weight.
Generally when I’m towing the caravan the car isn’t as loaded.
awesome, thanks for that!@@Australian4x4Adventures
lets justify the fuel usage hehe funny stuff ....
Question, where do you put the spare and the Jerry cans in the ute conversion? Does the cost justify the means? I like the conversions they look cool, and as rob said, he has the best of both worlds and its horses for courses. In the end, If you can afford to do it and have the needs for it, go for it, other than that I will stick to the wagon.
Spare wheel would either be back under the car if you don’t have a long range tank or up on the tray or canopy.
Water would be built into a section under the tray so there’s no need for Jerry can holders if you don’t want them for fuel.
I really love my wagon setup and I’m most likely going to stay with the wagon over a Ute chop ( mainly due to cost )
But there are lots of ppl with money that just want what they want.
NO NO NO WAY MATE
So that’s a yes from you? 😂
Keep wagon.
Is it tax deductible for work? Anyway, it would be cool to see.
Ute
No. Just buy a ute
Name a Ute that has the internal space of a y62 but isn’t the size of a ram?
@@Australian4x4Adventures Gunna go with 79 4 door, but probably still not as big inside.
Not sure if the internals of the 62 but the new ranger is pretty decent size
@@Australian4x4Adventures I mean, do what makes you happy. Personally, ive just never understood the concept of 'Buy a wagon just to chop it up.' Cost twice a much for a similar result in my opinion.
No don't chop it. Is that a steel tray?
Okay 😂
looks like you need a farm and leavie it there totaly usless good for work a thats it
Buy an American truck already chopped
So give your car to wife.. cancel her new car. Get a 2nd y62 and cope it for you.. 🤷
I would love to. But the wife won’t drive the 62. Too big apparently
Without the extension and a good gvm upgrade it looks 🤮 and is pointless
My car already has a 4.2t GVM.
And appearance is personal I guess
Y not just buy a ram or silverado? 🤷♂️
Too long and wide in the bush. If I was a QLDer and only drove on beaches then I prolly would have. But in the VHC it needs to be a bit more nimble
Because people like to be different and those vehicles may still require modifications to deliver the users end purpose as well, plus they have a higher starting price if you need to modify it further.
If you’re looking for a wife you find one that’s close to what you want, you don’t marry her and then try and change her into something else
Applies to 4x4s😊
So your car is completely stock standard?
All been done before do something original. Plus you wouldn’t pay for it it’s all sponsored products as usual . Try doing some videos using the patrol not just sponsored crap
If you don’t like it, then don’t watch it. It’s pretty simple.
None of this content was sponsored.
You comment the same thing in every video.
Maybe you should get some new content or just move on 🤷🏿♂️
@@Australian4x4Adventures you should be doing adventures as the name says . But all
You do is repeat what was has been done before . Drive the bloody thing and stop worrying about every useless accessory.
Don’t worry about what I’m doing and go live ya own life.
Take some of ya own advice 🤣🫡
@@Australian4x4Adventures I don’t have a you tube channel like your self and have no interest. You spend all your time plugging your free accessories and no time driving the patrol. What is so adventurous about running sponsored commercials all the time ? You’ll never chop the patrol and use your own money to do it that I do know . Purely click bait looking for suckers
Just buy the right car in the first place 🤷♂️
Yeah your right
I’m happy with the car I bought and I’m most likely going to stay with a wagon.