This was published about a year ago, and there have been quite a few changes in the RF landscape since then. I have an R50 arriving next week, and the lens choices are a bit better now. My first lens purchase will probably be the RF16mm. Not every "serious" photographer needs a 100-500mm lens, and no one is going to use an R50 with a lens like that. But the fact that the R50 focused well and tracked subjects well with such a huge lens is good news. I think Canon is getting pretty serious about the content they put in budget cameras.
Great review for the target audience. Chelsea is really able to speak in terms that are not too technical and yet able to present an accurate assessment.
When people ask me what might be a good option for an entry level camera, I usually say this model (whether M50 or R50) largely because it’s a lower-cost way to find out if you’re truly interested in making photography a long term hobby. Sometimes people decide on the G7x so they can have it in their pocket. Regardless of the choice, I always suggest going on line to read the owner’s manual first (and these reviews). This is one area where ‘doing your homework’ pays big dividends before you buy anything. You can learn a LOT by using entry level equipment (if you want to). And it may prove to be all you will ever need.
Yep, Canon 70D owner here, unashamedly. Still using it to learn the fundamentals of photography and hone my skills. Not in a hurry to transition to the mirrorless system any time soon.
@@thefourthquarter7429 in some cases, yes. The R50 (or R10, R7)'s AF system will blow away the 70D. I had the 60D, 77D and 80D before I entered the R world. As a wildlife photographer, I could never go back to DSLR.
finally the perfect video that has the content that most videos lacks.I am going to get my very first dslr/mirrorless to start my photography adventure but sometimes when i see a bird or animal that is near me and i want that moment to capture that most camera content creators doesn't show 🙄
omg the way you actually talk through explaining the details! thank you so much cause i was a bit lost in which camera would be the best option for me, being my first ever ever camera!! you def got a new suscriber 4 life
No matter how hard they atempt to lure people out of the M50 with this one, at least the M50 has amazingly solid 3rd party lenses like the Sigma 16 F1.4, that lens alone made me keep the M50 and i'm sure there will be nothing like it in the R50.
U can use all EF lenses. I wouldn't buy M50 if given a choice.between m50 and r50. Anyone who goes for M50 is ignoring the benefits of decent 4k and decent autofocus
@@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision of course, i know that since i have 2 native lenses and 4 adapted lenses on my M50, and i meant to say that Canon will have it hard convincing M50 owners to sell their M50 and get an R50 or the R10 if they already have good quality native lenses. In my case, i would need the RF24mm f 1.8 to sort of fill the gap that my Sigma 16mm F1.4 will leave, but it's 200$ more expensive, just that lens, so i don't feel like getting rid of the M mount for the RF mount for APSC, i feel like it would be a sidegrade, not an upgrade.
@@Al.j.Vasquez if u ever needed to deliver content in 4k and you need better autofocus it's no brainer. I sold my M50 to get r6 and there is a big difference. Even if you try the RP or r you will see a big difference. You just need to test some of these cameras to get it. I have 70d and 7d2 which I no longer use for photos coz the work flow is not the same as the r6. I use them for video only.
I agree, I have a M50 since its launch (my first real camera if not counting point and shoot a decade earlier). I still have it and no plan of getting rid of it or the lenses. R50 doesn't have enough to upgrade from an M50 when you anyway can choose other things. I bought the RP last summer when R10 was out. For me it was a few EF lenses that I would like a full frame sensor for. The APS-C sensors have very high pixel density - some glas aren't super great so I was okay with loosing a bit of zoom. I was considering the M6 mark II with EVF but when switching mount I didn't find RF-S compelling.
It's a direct descendant to the M50, which was also a great camera for the price. So it's no surprise that an RF version would fill those shoes well. My first mirrorless cam was the M50, which I still have despite upgrading to the R7. I'm debating whether to hang onto it or trade it in for new glass or as a down-payment to a full frame.
i'd still keep recommending the M50 for at least 2 years - its half the price used and there are still enough lens choices for beginners, especially the 22mmF2 which by far is one of the best pancake lenses - with it the m50 fits in a a jacket-pocket easily and its AF capabilities are still crazy good considering what it is. The touch screen is also very responsive.
@mipmipmipmipmip Full HD is good enough for most consumers, and that is the market for this camera. Also, smart phones are so much easier to use than cameras for video, I am just using an iPhone 13 Pro and a GoPro for my vacation video needs. The stabilization is much more important than the resolution for video. Unless you are willing to use a tripod or monopod, the image stabilation on most these cameras is neaseating and wipes out all the gains from the better sensor and lenses compared to the smart phones.
I wish I saw this a few days ago. Just got the R50 yesterday and it's going back. I just wanted a small everyday camera and although I am far from a pro, it is a little too basic. That I can live with but the main issue I have is that it is just too small for my hands. This is the 1st review I saw that mentioned that. R10 on the way!
Apart from 30fps continues shooting E shutter, Canon m50 m50II m6 m6ii are better choices. They still support 3rd party flashes and more lenses, even 3rd party lenses, sigma and viltrox. smaller lighter cheaper EOS-M cameras are better for daily use and vlog shooting. Canon should keep eos-M series instead of making apsc EOS-R.
R50 only makes sense of you want the oversampled 4k, and/or the eye tracking for wildlife. The 4K on the M6II is not oversampled and is soft, so it is not competitive with the Sony 4K. Not sure if these cameras will really take any customers from using their smart phones. Phones have better stablization and are so much easier to use for video. The stills improvement over the M50 is neglibile for most peoples needs.
What a great looking camera. Honestly if this was available last year I would have seriously considered it vs. the RP that I bought. The R50 is really all I need and can't argue with the price at all. The RP is a great camera and I obviously will not replace it so soon though obviously.
I love the RP but the only thing it has over the R50 is the full frame look. That's not something to discount though because full frame is just beautiful. It's just that the RP is so limited otherwise. The R50 can do so much
No matter which channels I find , there’s none that is as good as you guys !!! Best reviews , honest and professional opinions! The only channel I can trust for buying my first camera. Keep up the great work , love you videos !!!!
Big difference in detail between the iPhone and R50 on Tony's portrait. The iPhone looks a bit oversharpened but the R50 looks very smudged. Was the R50 shot an out of camera jpeg and what was the ISO?
Canon should open up its APS-C RF mount to third part first. This would make sense as anyone buying a R50 or R10 is a budget photographer looking for their first BIG camera. Having Sigma and others make some of their APS-C lenses would really entice people to buy these bodies, especially since Canon's APS-C RF line up absolutely sucks. Am I wrong?
I've seen some very good reviews of the upcoming RF-S 55-210. Also, the RF-S 18-150 is a solid lens, better than any of the EF-S 18-135 lenses. I still have a few EF-S lenses that I adapt to my R7 and they work flawlessly.
Thank you for saying this. Canon RF lenses are either too dark/slow or expensive. And they don't have many Rfs lenses too. Oddly, supply of ef lenses is also low as Canon is not producing ef lenses since a couple of years now.
@@mayankteo That doesn't make sense. The entire RF system is much more advanced and you don't need super fast lenses to get great results. My R7 handles low light better than any crop DSLR I've ever used, and the R6 was great in low light. Even the RF 600 and 800 f11 lenses product great results. Do you even own an R camera?
@@teej626 no, have been using Canon 700d since last 7-8 years and the low light performance was nothing great, practically unusable beyond 3200 iso. Is R7 that great, that you can use a 7.1 lens in low light conditions, without any denoise software? Any links where I can see some examples to judge for myself as I am planning to go mirrorless, and was contemplating switching to Sony because of lack of good affordable lenses with RF (EF lenses are all out of stock new where I live, and don't have any good EF lens worth keeping)
I've noticed only the cheapest bodies removed all the hot shoe features. I'm glad my R7 still has it. Because my small flash I carry with it it from the 1990s. So any generic flash works on it. Plus I have one of those cube shaped adapters that let me attach a synch cord to it for older lighting set ups.
It's only the R50, as I recall. I don't think Canon has even officially released their flash for the multi-function shoe yet. The vast majority of Canon flashes use a conventional hot shoe still.
@@SchardtCinematic No, the T7 has a hotshoe, not a multi-function shoe, just a "weird" hot shoe... whereas with the R50, the shoe itself is not included, but the adapter makes it a normal hot shoe
@856pm ok I misses that she said about it not having the new multifunction hot show like my R7 has. I was just referring to the center metal disc that would allow any generic flash to work on it.
@856pm I just went to the B&H app and took a good look at it. That non hot shoe is weird. Is it just a holder for a video light? It doesant seem to have any electrical contacts to connect anything to
You didn't mention the new intelligent auto feature of this camera. I have owned many Canon cameras and 3 of them have been DSLRs. I recommend this camera for anyone wanting to step up from a cell phone and wants to set it and forget it. The hot shoe shouldn't be a deterent because of the market this is made for. For a lot of people I think it's a better choice than the Rebel EOS T7 for a budget camera.
Yeah I was mainly looking at the Rebel T7 when trying to decide on a budget camera to pick up but after finding out about the R50 it’s really caught my eye.
@@tacticalluke8782 if I hadn't bought the Nikon Z fc I would have considered this for a light stealthy (for street photography) camera when I didn't want to bring my larger heavier ones along. Although I wouldn't love the lens mount, I had to buy some basic lenses for the Z fc anyhow.
I could see something like this if you already have a full frame RF Canon camera and want something as a backup, but the lack of lenses (especially third party) would have me looking at Fuji/Nikon/Sony instead for APS-C. Also, yeesh, at the hot shoe thing. Canon really wants to lock people in to their first party stuff.
Okay. This may not be completely on topic, but I have some questions. First a little background. I started in manual focus 35mm rangefinder using two Yashica Electro GSNs with the wide-angle and telephoto adapters. Anyway, then Canon AE1 Program, Elan 7E eye-controlled auto-focus. Bought the first Digital Rebel which put 1 megapixel digital autofocus to the masses for less than $1k. Bought the EOS 50D in late 2008 and used it for 14 years. When It stopped recording photos early this year I bought my wife a EOS D80, with which she is very happy. Now , though, I am looking for a camera for myself. I read a lot of stuff on here about mirrorless "hybrid" cameras good for both still photography and video. My primary interests are landscape, nature, street, travel, architecture, and portrait. IOW mostly still. My research tells me that if I really want to shoot videos I would likely prefer a purpose made video camera. So, for my photo interests what would me my best bet?
I just got the Canon R50 and the Nisi 9mm f/2.8 RF lens. Absolutely amazing combo for shooting real estate! A huge upgrade from the Canon M50 and Laowa 9mm f/2.8 ef-m lens. I would like to use the full auto mode on the R50 for shooting family stuff, it looks amazing on the viewfinder, the settings are spot on. But I have the Nisi 9mm f2.8 manual focus lens. I can't take a picture for some reason. Is there a setting to allow this? Also wondering if you can do a comparison between 3 hdr bracketed vs full auto mode assist photos? I'm imagining closer results than expected. Blended hdr photos are tough to beat but this will make for an interesting test.
Yeah here is the issue Rf glass is expensive, and cannon have banned third party brands from making lenses plus there is not much apsc lenses for RF-S MOUNT the product is good, but ecosystem is not there
@@truthseeker6804 bigger sensor, better dynamic range; more third party AF lenses included wide angle for vlog (viltrox 13mm 1.4, Sigma 16mm 1.4); better ergonomics; more pushable raw; better build quality; AF is on par with Canon for photo, and video AF is near to perfect. Even if you don't need EVF you can get the cheaper Z30, with even better ergonomics. The photo options are better in Nikon and the camera is a pleasure to use. Canon is smallish (could be good or bad thing) and colors and overall rendition of photos are great (but with less information in shadows and highlights and less color depth), video have more options than the Nikon.
Review talks more about upgrading to better lenses and even a better camera...I wanted to know more about the R50. Showing this camera with a nearly three thousand dollar lens is odd...
I know this was posted a while ago, but if I were interested in the r50 and you suggested the r10 for an upgrade, where does the 90D stack up? I love the 80D, but want to be able to film in 4k and have seen the 90D for around $800 used
They each have their advantages. The r50 has a viewfinder and is better for sports or wildlife. The ZV-E10 is more video focused. The Sony has way more native mirrorless APS-C lenses.
Haha yeah actually it did look pretty damn good. No noise in the background and I think the blurry flyaways actually looked better though it's not natural.
Will video jitter if you stand still without enabling digital stabilization or is it pretty stable? Not everyone is a vlogger who walks while filming! Watched 20 videos so far and no mention if you could film while standing still and get good video.
100% I still use my M50 mk II for video but am selling off the M6 mk II and most EF-M lenses while there is demand for them (used M6 mk II bodies and EF-M primes still fetch decent prices). I now have a Fuji X-S10 and am slowly replacing my Sigma EF-M lenses with Sigma X-mount versions: 16mm f1.4 and 18-50mm f2.8 so far. IBIS on the X-S10 means I feel more confident to try manual lenses in the future, and that opens up new adventures.
Is it possible that APSC cameras concentrate colors so that they look more vibrant than on full frame? My cat’s green eyes popped with the Sigma 18-50 on Sony A6600, but looked more washed out on Sony A7Iv with Signma 28-70. Both had same settings, open to 2.8.
I’m actually looking for a replacement for my Nikon D7000. But with Canon not allowing aftermarket lenses, well, that is a deal breaker! Especially since I can get the Z50 and an adapter for $200 more than the Canon. If I was buying my first camera, maybe. But blocking aftermarket lenses is definitely something I would look at. Thanks for the video! Very informative!
@@bryanschwertner3585 If Canon and first camera now I would buy the R10. The R50 is so bad it does not worth any purchase. Or like a used R or RP maybe. But I am not into Canon at all, I used to have Nikon D3500 then the Z50 and now switched to the Lumix S5.
Thanks! That Lumix series, but in 4/3 not full frame, has always interested me for a compact, old guy, bike riding camera. “Old guy” means I stop a lot for pics, ha ha, compact for obvious reasons. I carry my old D3100 and a throwaway lens for now.
Maybe it's my luck or you saw my comment yesterday where I asked you to review the R50 - present for me today - you published exactly that! Thank you! :) Hope you saw the second part of my comment for a video idea - comparing the last 24 and 32 MP M-mount m50 mk2 and m6 mk2 vs the current R-mount R50/R10 and R7. Same sensors with slight improvements and larger processor and features improvements. But the older cameras are available used at lower price and both systems can use RF lenses, so interesting! I wonder how things like low light performance, dynamic range and perceived resolution (sharp lens for 32mp) compare.
The $39 adapter solved that issue. In the latest R bodies the pins are under the front edge of the hot shoe. Very delicate and easy to damage with dust !
I'm told yes! For me having an M system, I went with the adapter for it. I only have a couple of EFs lenses but they work well on my M cams. If the R / EF adapter works as well it should be a hit.
I really like it, and it's okay for my budget, but my problem with this camera is that it isn't weather sealed, so anyone recommend another alternative options?
In essence, the new budget cameras are not having the same bang for buck that was there few years ago..manfuacturers are pushing customers to buy more expensive ones.
@@teej626 the R7 has a few improvements over the M6ii, but uses the same sensor. The R7 costs twice as much, isn’t as compact as the M6ii nor does it have as many good affordable lenses.
@@teej626 lol. It should have much better features. It costs twice as much. The R7 is basically the next iteration of the M6 without the benefit of the small form factor and lens selection of the M mount. If you’re going for an R mount camera, skip APS-C and go full frame. Does Canon even have a wide angle lens for the APS-C RF mount?
@@stonewp The R10 is the next version of the M6. The R7 would be the mirrorless upgrade to the 7DmII/90D. My first R mount camera was the R6, which is a great camera, but for what I shoot, the R7 is a better option. I've always owned crop cameras and use mostly full frame lenses. I adapt a Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 C lens on my R7 and that's plenty wide for me. There is word that an RF-S 11-22 will be launched soon as well.
@@stonewp The R7 does not use the same sensor. Yes, it is the same megapixel count at 32.5, but it is a new design. And there are more than just a few improvements. The R7 is the perfect size for me. I can't use those tiny M cameras. Too small for my hands. As I said, you can use any RF or EF lens on the R7 or any R camera. There are more than enough options to choose from.
Hay what's this Sony A7L V , a guy from Germany was revewing it but unfortunately I couldn't understand a word with the exception of the model number .
Ever since Canon discontinued the M6 mk II and it was clear the EF-M system was EOL, I've been looking for a replacement. Nothing in the R series appealed to me and the news that Canon was not supporting 3rd-party lenses was the push I needed to move on: to the Fuji X-S10. Similar size and weight, the X-S10 has the viewfinder and full articulating screen like the M50, and the dials and quality of the M6 mk II. And it has IBIS.
@@deffunc the thing is, that I have all my red line lenses already... And that's why I live under a bridge 🤣 hahahah! Nah but spending that amount onswitching brands is waaaay too expensive
@@LeopoldoManuelRamirezMena The problem is that EF-M is not compatible with RF so I face those switching cost even if I stay with Canon 😞 On the other hand, there are adapters for EF and EF-S to Fuji X-mount so it's not all bad news.
Hello! Can you transfer files from this camera to a phone via usb c connection? If you use a cable with two usb c ends, one connecting to the phone and one connecting to the camera. I do pictures in tourist areas and I print them on spot. I need to be really fast. My phone is conected through wifi to a printer. I need to transfer the photos to the phone via cable. Thank you!
Had a family of Canon enthusiasts. Everything from the AE-1, 20D, 30D, 5D, 7DII, 6D with the L series most of the way. If they start blocking the odd sigma/tamron in my line-up, they can get f'd. Not only am I reluctant to move away from SLR, I'm VERY NERVOUS of the printer/ink model that's being pushed by HP etc. If Canon aren't happy with the tens of thousands I've spent previously, then they can rot on the dung heap. I won't be heading to the R series if they're gonna be hostile.
Eager to see you guys test the new R8 and compare results with the Sony ZV-E1 and Canon R6. Looking for vlogging camera to have in my bag next to my R5.
@@TonyAndChelsea hey i appreciate the videos you have done over the years u guys been my tutors. I wanna suggest a video idea. Can the two of you shoot film cameras? I'd die to see that.
OK the lack of hotshoe mount pins is a HUGE negative, WTAF?? Entry level cameras are what people are meant to learn photography on, how are they meant to learn photography if they can't eventually do something as basic as flash lighting???
It is what it is... an entry level, budget camera. For someone's first "real" camera, this is an excellent choice. I'd never own one, but everyone needs a starting point.
Can you demonstrate how easy it is to record vertical videos on it? Most people need vertical content as well as landscape videos. Do you need to tilt camera 90 degree? How does it work as livestream webcam? When connected to computer via USB during livestream, does it get charged as well or uses battery 🔋? You showed old EF 11-22mm lens with adapter, how is AF performance when using old EF lenses in video? How long you can record in 30fps - long content, like school concert or sport game? How well it will perform with Sigma EF lenses with adapter? Canon RF has very limited budget friendly lenses, neither of them as good as sigma 16mm f1.4 for m mount.
My RP can be charged from a USB-PD charger - the thing is that it will raise the voltage so the camera doesn't need hardware to step up the voltage. So when connecting to a computer it will be regular USB 5V so I cannot believe Canon would here a few years after go and add that hardware in the camera for their cheapest RF/RF-S body. So you'll need a dummy battery and power adapter. I don't know about it for the R50 but earlier for e.g. M50 there are those which goes in the USB port and steps up the voltage. But not from canon, they only had the one for mains electricity. Btw USB 2.0 that my M200 and RP has, and I assume R50 too, isn't so fast. The webcam driver cannot do 1080, it's a lot lower. For a bit more serious you can get a HDMI-capture device (no name regular ones are less than $50) that connects to a USB 3 port.
@@myviews469 The noise? You would need to buy a lens that has a silent focus motor, like the newer nano USM lenses or some STM lenses. Or simply get an external mic.
Sorry, but another poor APC camera from Canon. All are flawed in some fatal way. Great AF coupled with terrible viewfinders. They are only "good" if you havent looked at anything else. Then they introduce a camera with a crippled hot shoe? Really? Canon is capable of making amazing gear as their full frame line is great. Their APC line has one thing going for it - great AF - followed by one big negative after another. All these cameras feel like is a trick designed to force you into their higher end line. Chelsea said something really important. Skip this line and get something much better used.
Sound like an Canon hater. The R7 is a fantastic camera. I've been shooting Canon APS-C cameras for over a decade and the R7 is by far the best of the bunch. Amazing AF and the image quality is fantastic.
@teej626 The R7 has great AF and a 2.36 million dot evf. The evf looks okay considering resolution, has a 120hz refresh and good magnification. It's still years behind what comes on any of their higher end cameras and it lags. Why do I want that? On paper it's a great value. Good video specs and very fast. But I want a camera that performs and is enjoyable to use. The reason I didn't go mirrorless many years ago was mediocre EVF's, and this one isn't great. I want Canon to introduce an R7 with a good, industry standard evf. I would pay hundreds more for it if it had a viewfinder from the R6Ii. If it's any consolation, I don't like the viewfinders on Sony or Nikon APC cameras either.
I have the M50, and although it's capable, it's time to upgrade. I think I might pass over the R50 and go right to the R10 which is only a little more expensive ($879.00 at B&H this weekend).
This was published about a year ago, and there have been quite a few changes in the RF landscape since then. I have an R50 arriving next week, and the lens choices are a bit better now. My first lens purchase will probably be the RF16mm. Not every "serious" photographer needs a 100-500mm lens, and no one is going to use an R50 with a lens like that. But the fact that the R50 focused well and tracked subjects well with such a huge lens is good news. I think Canon is getting pretty serious about the content they put in budget cameras.
Great review for the target audience. Chelsea is really able to speak in terms that are not too technical and yet able to present an accurate assessment.
When people ask me what might be a good option for an entry level camera, I usually say this model (whether M50 or R50) largely because it’s a lower-cost way to find out if you’re truly interested in making photography a long term hobby. Sometimes people decide on the G7x so they can have it in their pocket. Regardless of the choice, I always suggest going on line to read the owner’s manual first (and these reviews). This is one area where ‘doing your homework’ pays big dividends before you buy anything. You can learn a LOT by using entry level equipment (if you want to). And it may prove to be all you will ever need.
Yep, Canon 70D owner here, unashamedly. Still using it to learn the fundamentals of photography and hone my skills. Not in a hurry to transition to the mirrorless system any time soon.
Keep what you have, it's way better than this.
@@thefourthquarter7429 in some cases, yes. The R50 (or R10, R7)'s AF system will blow away the 70D. I had the 60D, 77D and 80D before I entered the R world. As a wildlife photographer, I could never go back to DSLR.
You should definitely not be ashamed to own a 70D, haha :D
It's a great work horse!
me too 🙂 my 70D is still strong and wonderful.
@@teej626 so by that logic a d500 or d850 can't take great wildlife photos?
finally the perfect video that has the content that most videos lacks.I am going to get my very first dslr/mirrorless to start my photography adventure but sometimes when i see a bird or animal that is near me and i want that moment to capture that most camera content creators doesn't show 🙄
omg the way you actually talk through explaining the details! thank you so much cause i was a bit lost in which camera would be the best option for me, being my first ever ever camera!! you def got a new suscriber 4 life
No matter how hard they atempt to lure people out of the M50 with this one, at least the M50 has amazingly solid 3rd party lenses like the Sigma 16 F1.4, that lens alone made me keep the M50 and i'm sure there will be nothing like it in the R50.
U can use all EF lenses. I wouldn't buy M50 if given a choice.between m50 and r50.
Anyone who goes for M50 is ignoring the benefits of decent 4k and decent autofocus
@@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision of course, i know that since i have 2 native lenses and 4 adapted lenses on my M50, and i meant to say that Canon will have it hard convincing M50 owners to sell their M50 and get an R50 or the R10 if they already have good quality native lenses. In my case, i would need the RF24mm f 1.8 to sort of fill the gap that my Sigma 16mm F1.4 will leave, but it's 200$ more expensive, just that lens, so i don't feel like getting rid of the M mount for the RF mount for APSC, i feel like it would be a sidegrade, not an upgrade.
@@Al.j.Vasquez if u ever needed to deliver content in 4k and you need better autofocus it's no brainer. I sold my M50 to get r6 and there is a big difference. Even if you try the RP or r you will see a big difference. You just need to test some of these cameras to get it. I have 70d and 7d2 which I no longer use for photos coz the work flow is not the same as the r6. I use them for video only.
r50 did not have traditional hotshoe
I agree, I have a M50 since its launch (my first real camera if not counting point and shoot a decade earlier). I still have it and no plan of getting rid of it or the lenses. R50 doesn't have enough to upgrade from an M50 when you anyway can choose other things. I bought the RP last summer when R10 was out. For me it was a few EF lenses that I would like a full frame sensor for. The APS-C sensors have very high pixel density - some glas aren't super great so I was okay with loosing a bit of zoom. I was considering the M6 mark II with EVF but when switching mount I didn't find RF-S compelling.
It's a direct descendant to the M50, which was also a great camera for the price. So it's no surprise that an RF version would fill those shoes well. My first mirrorless cam was the M50, which I still have despite upgrading to the R7. I'm debating whether to hang onto it or trade it in for new glass or as a down-payment to a full frame.
i'd still keep recommending the M50 for at least 2 years - its half the price used and there are still enough lens choices for beginners, especially the 22mmF2 which by far is one of the best pancake lenses - with it the m50 fits in a a jacket-pocket easily and its AF capabilities are still crazy good considering what it is. The touch screen is also very responsive.
I am still in love with my M50 Mark II.
@mipmipmipmipmip Full HD is good enough for most consumers, and that is the market for this camera. Also, smart phones are so much easier to use than cameras for video, I am just using an iPhone 13 Pro and a GoPro for my vacation video needs. The stabilization is much more important than the resolution for video. Unless you are willing to use a tripod or monopod, the image stabilation on most these cameras is neaseating and wipes out all the gains from the better sensor and lenses compared to the smart phones.
That lens is the best pancake lens I've used. I love it to bits.
However R50's AF-C is another dimension compared to M50. And R50 with RF16 RF24 is still small enough to use IMHO
M50 has shit AF in 4K. I believe it uses contrast detection af in 4k.
I wish I saw this a few days ago. Just got the R50 yesterday and it's going back. I just wanted a small everyday camera and although I am far from a pro, it is a little too basic. That I can live with but the main issue I have is that it is just too small for my hands. This is the 1st review I saw that mentioned that. R10 on the way!
Yeah we both hated the R50 handling and we don't have big hands. It screwed us both up several times.
Really good review!
A little video suggestion:
Canon R50 vs Sony A6100, which one is a better entry level camera
Apart from 30fps continues shooting E shutter, Canon m50 m50II m6 m6ii are better choices. They still support 3rd party flashes and more lenses, even 3rd party lenses, sigma and viltrox. smaller lighter cheaper EOS-M cameras are better for daily use and vlog shooting. Canon should keep eos-M series instead of making apsc EOS-R.
R50 only makes sense of you want the oversampled 4k, and/or the eye tracking for wildlife. The 4K on the M6II is not oversampled and is soft, so it is not competitive with the Sony 4K. Not sure if these cameras will really take any customers from using their smart phones. Phones have better stablization and are so much easier to use for video. The stills improvement over the M50 is neglibile for most peoples needs.
What a great looking camera. Honestly if this was available last year I would have seriously considered it vs. the RP that I bought. The R50 is really all I need and can't argue with the price at all. The RP is a great camera and I obviously will not replace it so soon though obviously.
I love the RP but the only thing it has over the R50 is the full frame look. That's not something to discount though because full frame is just beautiful. It's just that the RP is so limited otherwise. The R50 can do so much
No matter which channels I find , there’s none that is as good as you guys !!! Best reviews , honest and professional opinions! The only channel I can trust for buying my first camera. Keep up the great work , love you videos !!!!
Big difference in detail between the iPhone and R50 on Tony's portrait. The iPhone looks a bit oversharpened but the R50 looks very smudged. Was the R50 shot an out of camera jpeg and what was the ISO?
Canon should open up its APS-C RF mount to third part first. This would make sense as anyone buying a R50 or R10 is a budget photographer looking for their first BIG camera. Having Sigma and others make some of their APS-C lenses would really entice people to buy these bodies, especially since Canon's APS-C RF line up absolutely sucks. Am I wrong?
No, it's terrible.
I've seen some very good reviews of the upcoming RF-S 55-210. Also, the RF-S 18-150 is a solid lens, better than any of the EF-S 18-135 lenses. I still have a few EF-S lenses that I adapt to my R7 and they work flawlessly.
Thank you for saying this. Canon RF lenses are either too dark/slow or expensive. And they don't have many Rfs lenses too. Oddly, supply of ef lenses is also low as Canon is not producing ef lenses since a couple of years now.
@@mayankteo That doesn't make sense. The entire RF system is much more advanced and you don't need super fast lenses to get great results. My R7 handles low light better than any crop DSLR I've ever used, and the R6 was great in low light. Even the RF 600 and 800 f11 lenses product great results. Do you even own an R camera?
@@teej626 no, have been using Canon 700d since last 7-8 years and the low light performance was nothing great, practically unusable beyond 3200 iso. Is R7 that great, that you can use a 7.1 lens in low light conditions, without any denoise software? Any links where I can see some examples to judge for myself as I am planning to go mirrorless, and was contemplating switching to Sony because of lack of good affordable lenses with RF (EF lenses are all out of stock new where I live, and don't have any good EF lens worth keeping)
Thanks for this review. I just bought it and I think it will be a good entry level camera for me.
Hope you enjoy it!
I've noticed only the cheapest bodies removed all the hot shoe features. I'm glad my R7 still has it. Because my small flash I carry with it it from the 1990s. So any generic flash works on it. Plus I have one of those cube shaped adapters that let me attach a synch cord to it for older lighting set ups.
It's only the R50, as I recall. I don't think Canon has even officially released their flash for the multi-function shoe yet. The vast majority of Canon flashes use a conventional hot shoe still.
@856pm They removed it also from the cheapest Rebel dslrs as well like the T6 and T7
@@SchardtCinematic No, the T7 has a hotshoe, not a multi-function shoe, just a "weird" hot shoe... whereas with the R50, the shoe itself is not included, but the adapter makes it a normal hot shoe
@856pm ok I misses that she said about it not having the new multifunction hot show like my R7 has. I was just referring to the center metal disc that would allow any generic flash to work on it.
@856pm I just went to the B&H app and took a good look at it. That non hot shoe is weird. Is it just a holder for a video light? It doesant seem to have any electrical contacts to connect anything to
So happy you guys tested the r50 for me. I go to your channel for ALL my camera inquiries.
You didn't mention the new intelligent auto feature of this camera. I have owned many Canon cameras and 3 of them have been DSLRs. I recommend this camera for anyone wanting to step up from a cell phone and wants to set it and forget it. The hot shoe shouldn't be a deterent because of the market this is made for. For a lot of people I think it's a better choice than the Rebel EOS T7 for a budget camera.
Yeah I was mainly looking at the Rebel T7 when trying to decide on a budget camera to pick up but after finding out about the R50 it’s really caught my eye.
@@tacticalluke8782 if I hadn't bought the Nikon Z fc I would have considered this for a light stealthy (for street photography) camera when I didn't want to bring my larger heavier ones along. Although I wouldn't love the lens mount, I had to buy some basic lenses for the Z fc anyhow.
00:33 Chelsea flippin' that camera like John Wick disarming a bad guy! 😅
Imma stay with my M50 for another 5 years at least =)
I could see something like this if you already have a full frame RF Canon camera and want something as a backup, but the lack of lenses (especially third party) would have me looking at Fuji/Nikon/Sony instead for APS-C.
Also, yeesh, at the hot shoe thing. Canon really wants to lock people in to their first party stuff.
Okay. This may not be completely on topic, but I have some questions. First a little background. I started in manual focus 35mm rangefinder using two Yashica Electro GSNs with the wide-angle and telephoto adapters. Anyway, then Canon AE1 Program, Elan 7E eye-controlled auto-focus. Bought the first Digital Rebel which put 1 megapixel digital autofocus to the masses for less than $1k. Bought the EOS 50D in late 2008 and used it for 14 years. When It stopped recording photos early this year I bought my wife a EOS D80, with which she is very happy. Now , though, I am looking for a camera for myself. I read a lot of stuff on here about mirrorless "hybrid" cameras good for both still photography and video. My primary interests are landscape, nature, street, travel, architecture, and portrait. IOW mostly still. My research tells me that if I really want to shoot videos I would likely prefer a purpose made video camera. So, for my photo interests what would me my best bet?
I just got the Canon R50 and the Nisi 9mm f/2.8 RF lens. Absolutely amazing combo for shooting real estate! A huge upgrade from the Canon M50 and Laowa 9mm f/2.8 ef-m lens.
I would like to use the full auto mode on the R50 for shooting family stuff, it looks amazing on the viewfinder, the settings are spot on. But I have the Nisi 9mm f2.8 manual focus lens. I can't take a picture for some reason. Is there a setting to allow this?
Also wondering if you can do a comparison between 3 hdr bracketed vs full auto mode assist photos? I'm imagining closer results than expected. Blended hdr photos are tough to beat but this will make for an interesting test.
I thought the R100 is the most affordable on the R mount series?
Yeah here is the issue
Rf glass is expensive, and cannon have banned third party brands from making lenses plus there is not much apsc lenses for RF-S MOUNT
the product is good, but ecosystem is not there
So looking forward to the r8 review!
definitely the best budget camera. no competition.
Sony ZV-E10
Nikon Z50 is far better
@@Jisooee zve10 no viewfinder, worse rolling shutter, no 10bit video, old Autofocus system
@@amermeleitor z50, worse Autofocus, no 10bit video
@@truthseeker6804 bigger sensor, better dynamic range; more third party AF lenses included wide angle for vlog (viltrox 13mm 1.4, Sigma 16mm 1.4); better ergonomics; more pushable raw; better build quality; AF is on par with Canon for photo, and video AF is near to perfect. Even if you don't need EVF you can get the cheaper Z30, with even better ergonomics. The photo options are better in Nikon and the camera is a pleasure to use. Canon is smallish (could be good or bad thing) and colors and overall rendition of photos are great (but with less information in shadows and highlights and less color depth), video have more options than the Nikon.
Tony's secret was really funny! hahahahahaha
4:27 Instead of shelling out for an expensive fast lens you can just use a slower shutter speed or crank up the ISO
Can use a hand held mini tripod or monopod to extend the distance of the camera for vlogging if the lens isn't wide enough.
Oh man it's embarrassing when the best solution for Canon users is a selfie-stick.
@@TonyAndChelsea They should open up their mount as you have advocated then we'll will get more lens options 🙂
I want This for my channel!
This video looks great, holds focus well, what camera are you recording the video on?
250d is better value, or if I wanted an auto vlogger, I’d choose zv -e10
Canon: we present to you our great vlogging camera! With no lenses to actually vlog with. Genius.
What camera do you shot the video with
Thank you.
Review talks more about upgrading to better lenses and even a better camera...I wanted to know more about the R50. Showing this camera with a nearly three thousand dollar lens is odd...
Please can you share what camera and lens you are using in to vlog in this video?
Hi, How does this camera compare to Sony’s ZVE-10?
I know this was posted a while ago, but if I were interested in the r50 and you suggested the r10 for an upgrade, where does the 90D stack up? I love the 80D, but want to be able to film in 4k and have seen the 90D for around $800 used
The problem is the availability of affordable lenses. In the long run, it is much better to go to other brands like fuji or sony.
Unfortunately no 35mm full-frame lens (22mm) is available for this camera and there are no RF-S prime lenses. M50 still offers the better value.
How many EF-S prime lenses were there? 3. Prime lenses will almost always be designed for full frame.
For beginner and first camera which one is better to buy canon r50 or sony zv e10?
They each have their advantages. The r50 has a viewfinder and is better for sports or wildlife. The ZV-E10 is more video focused. The Sony has way more native mirrorless APS-C lenses.
Wow the iPhone 14 pro portrait photo looks great 🙂 thanks for sharing it.
Haha yeah actually it did look pretty damn good. No noise in the background and I think the blurry flyaways actually looked better though it's not natural.
I’m looking to update my Fuji xt2. I need something for sports both video and shooting indoor. Soccer and volleyball are the main sports. Thoughts?
Will video jitter if you stand still without enabling digital stabilization or is it pretty stable? Not everyone is a vlogger who walks while filming! Watched 20 videos so far and no mention if you could film while standing still and get good video.
Yeah after killing the m-mount and their stopping 3rd party lens shenanigans, it's going to take a long while before Canon wins me over again.
100% I still use my M50 mk II for video but am selling off the M6 mk II and most EF-M lenses while there is demand for them (used M6 mk II bodies and EF-M primes still fetch decent prices). I now have a Fuji X-S10 and am slowly replacing my Sigma EF-M lenses with Sigma X-mount versions: 16mm f1.4 and 18-50mm f2.8 so far. IBIS on the X-S10 means I feel more confident to try manual lenses in the future, and that opens up new adventures.
Is it possible that APSC cameras concentrate colors so that they look more vibrant than on full frame? My cat’s green eyes popped with the Sigma 18-50 on Sony A6600, but looked more washed out on Sony A7Iv with Signma 28-70. Both had same settings, open to 2.8.
I’m actually looking for a replacement for my Nikon D7000. But with Canon not allowing aftermarket lenses, well, that is a deal breaker! Especially since I can get the Z50 and an adapter for $200 more than the Canon. If I was buying my first camera, maybe. But blocking aftermarket lenses is definitely something I would look at. Thanks for the video! Very informative!
You know you can get an adapter for any R mount camera as well, right? Plenty of RF and EF lenses available, including 3rd party.
Z50 is much better camera than the R50.
I have about decided to stay Nikon since the adapter for F mount is available. Hopefully by the next release of an APSC sensor camera.
@@bryanschwertner3585 If Canon and first camera now I would buy the R10. The R50 is so bad it does not worth any purchase. Or like a used R or RP maybe. But I am not into Canon at all, I used to have Nikon D3500 then the Z50 and now switched to the Lumix S5.
Thanks! That Lumix series, but in 4/3 not full frame, has always interested me for a compact, old guy, bike riding camera. “Old guy” means I stop a lot for pics, ha ha, compact for obvious reasons. I carry my old D3100 and a throwaway lens for now.
Hey what Camera are you using to film?
This was a KEH advertisement with a cameo appearance by the Canon R50. No ducks were harmed in the making of this ad.
Can I put a sigma like 105 lens .? If so do you believe it would be extra nice and sharp? Would I need adapter?
Maybe it's my luck or you saw my comment yesterday where I asked you to review the R50 - present for me today - you published exactly that! Thank you! :) Hope you saw the second part of my comment for a video idea - comparing the last 24 and 32 MP M-mount m50 mk2 and m6 mk2 vs the current R-mount R50/R10 and R7. Same sensors with slight improvements and larger processor and features improvements. But the older cameras are available used at lower price and both systems can use RF lenses, so interesting! I wonder how things like low light performance, dynamic range and perceived resolution (sharp lens for 32mp) compare.
The embargo lifted today. A bunch of R50 reviews just dropped.
What camera are you using to shoot this video on?
No hot shoe would be a deal breaker for me. There is no excuse for leaving that off.
Yeah one pin!! What is Canon thinking??
@@TonyAndChelsea This totally sucks. Boycotting third party flashes and lens. Arrrrrrgh.
The $39 adapter solved that issue.
In the latest R bodies the pins are under the front edge of the hot shoe. Very delicate and easy to damage with dust !
Is it ISO invariant?
OMG I thought that Sony vlog crop was bad. Lol
I thought this would make me shift from the m50… I’m sticking to the m50
me too! takes great pictures and I love my lens collection for it!
Which camera... You shoot this video?
I have a Canon 200d I am looking for something that good with video 4k and take good pictures also that I don't have to buy new lens.
So very professional.
Can you use an adapter for ef lens?
I'm told yes! For me having an M system, I went with the adapter for it. I only have a couple of EFs lenses but they work well on my M cams. If the R / EF adapter works as well it should be a hit.
I really like it, and it's okay for my budget, but my problem with this camera is that it isn't weather sealed, so anyone recommend another alternative options?
Same size as SL3? I'm a big fan of tiny cameras.
In essence, the new budget cameras are not having the same bang for buck that was there few years ago..manfuacturers are pushing customers to buy more expensive ones.
The M6 mkii seems like a better camera than all of the crop sensor R cameras.
Better specs, smaller size, more quality affordable lens options.
Nah, the R7 is much better than the M6 mkII. Much better features. The M6 is closer to the R10.
@@teej626 the R7 has a few improvements over the M6ii, but uses the same sensor. The R7 costs twice as much, isn’t as compact as the M6ii nor does it have as many good affordable lenses.
@@teej626 lol. It should have much better features. It costs twice as much. The R7 is basically the next iteration of the M6 without the benefit of the small form factor and lens selection of the M mount. If you’re going for an R mount camera, skip APS-C and go full frame.
Does Canon even have a wide angle lens for the APS-C RF mount?
@@stonewp The R10 is the next version of the M6. The R7 would be the mirrorless upgrade to the 7DmII/90D. My first R mount camera was the R6, which is a great camera, but for what I shoot, the R7 is a better option. I've always owned crop cameras and use mostly full frame lenses. I adapt a Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 C lens on my R7 and that's plenty wide for me. There is word that an RF-S 11-22 will be launched soon as well.
@@stonewp The R7 does not use the same sensor. Yes, it is the same megapixel count at 32.5, but it is a new design. And there are more than just a few improvements. The R7 is the perfect size for me. I can't use those tiny M cameras. Too small for my hands. As I said, you can use any RF or EF lens on the R7 or any R camera. There are more than enough options to choose from.
What camera you used to record this video? Pls Reply.
Excellent video 📹
A lot of camera 📷 for the money 💰 😊
Does KEH really take stuff back within 180 days? I need to go buy something.
It's a 180 day warranty, so they'll repair/replace stuff that breaks
more like 21 days....
Hay what's this Sony A7L V , a guy from Germany was revewing it but unfortunately I couldn't understand a word with the exception of the model number .
That kit lens seems like an awful blunder on Canon's part, was it really too hard to make an 18-55 f3.5 for the R mount??
does anybody know if the camera has a clean hdmi output? if yes, how do I find it
lack of proper ultrawide angle still
I had the m and it was great, now Im looking forward to replace the M6mk II... 🎉
Ever since Canon discontinued the M6 mk II and it was clear the EF-M system was EOL, I've been looking for a replacement. Nothing in the R series appealed to me and the news that Canon was not supporting 3rd-party lenses was the push I needed to move on: to the Fuji X-S10. Similar size and weight, the X-S10 has the viewfinder and full articulating screen like the M50, and the dials and quality of the M6 mk II. And it has IBIS.
@@deffunc the thing is, that I have all my red line lenses already... And that's why I live under a bridge 🤣 hahahah! Nah but spending that amount onswitching brands is waaaay too expensive
@@LeopoldoManuelRamirezMena The problem is that EF-M is not compatible with RF so I face those switching cost even if I stay with Canon 😞 On the other hand, there are adapters for EF and EF-S to Fuji X-mount so it's not all bad news.
Hello! Can you transfer files from this camera to a phone via usb c connection? If you use a cable with two usb c ends, one connecting to the phone and one connecting to the camera. I do pictures in tourist areas and I print them on spot. I need to be really fast. My phone is conected through wifi to a printer. I need to transfer the photos to the phone via cable. Thank you!
Zve10 would be a better option
Had a family of Canon enthusiasts. Everything from the AE-1, 20D, 30D, 5D, 7DII, 6D with the L series most of the way. If they start blocking the odd sigma/tamron in my line-up, they can get f'd. Not only am I reluctant to move away from SLR, I'm VERY NERVOUS of the printer/ink model that's being pushed by HP etc. If Canon aren't happy with the tens of thousands I've spent previously, then they can rot on the dung heap. I won't be heading to the R series if they're gonna be hostile.
Eager to see you guys test the new R8 and compare results with the Sony ZV-E1 and Canon R6. Looking for vlogging camera to have in my bag next to my R5.
Coming up in April!
@@TonyAndChelsea hey i appreciate the videos you have done over the years u guys been my tutors.
I wanna suggest a video idea. Can the two of you shoot film cameras? I'd die to see that.
OK the lack of hotshoe mount pins is a HUGE negative, WTAF??
Entry level cameras are what people are meant to learn photography on, how are they meant to learn photography if they can't eventually do something as basic as flash lighting???
R10 for sport photography.
It has Mechanical Shutter.
wife and I stopped in Mystic on vac to maine. neet town!
Chelsea what camera were you filmed with?
Sony a7S III: sdp.io/a7S3
An honest rewiew but I think this camera is one to be skipped?
It is what it is... an entry level, budget camera. For someone's first "real" camera, this is an excellent choice. I'd never own one, but everyone needs a starting point.
Those APS-C lenses are trash.
Ill keep my T3i, thank you.
would be a cool bcam to my r6ii.
just foung out about this camera im getting it . coming from m50 you already know lol
Yes. Nutcrackers are scary.
Thank you for making me feel validated.
Hi nice and can I ask u nice video quality what camera recording to u pls let me know thank 😊
Thanks for answering all best
Can you demonstrate how easy it is to record vertical videos on it? Most people need vertical content as well as landscape videos. Do you need to tilt camera 90 degree? How does it work as livestream webcam? When connected to computer via USB during livestream, does it get charged as well or uses battery 🔋? You showed old EF 11-22mm lens with adapter, how is AF performance when using old EF lenses in video? How long you can record in 30fps - long content, like school concert or sport game? How well it will perform with Sigma EF lenses with adapter? Canon RF has very limited budget friendly lenses, neither of them as good as sigma 16mm f1.4 for m mount.
My RP can be charged from a USB-PD charger - the thing is that it will raise the voltage so the camera doesn't need hardware to step up the voltage. So when connecting to a computer it will be regular USB 5V so I cannot believe Canon would here a few years after go and add that hardware in the camera for their cheapest RF/RF-S body. So you'll need a dummy battery and power adapter. I don't know about it for the R50 but earlier for e.g. M50 there are those which goes in the USB port and steps up the voltage. But not from canon, they only had the one for mains electricity.
Btw USB 2.0 that my M200 and RP has, and I assume R50 too, isn't so fast. The webcam driver cannot do 1080, it's a lot lower. For a bit more serious you can get a HDMI-capture device (no name regular ones are less than $50) that connects to a USB 3 port.
Good info.
M50 ii with some subtle changes, actually this is what the M50 iii would have been.
this is what the m50ii shouldve been. they made no real improvement to the m50 ii from the m50
Does this R50 make noise when it's focusing during video recording??
Depends with lens u using
The camera doesn't make any noise. The lens might...
@@teej626 so how do we work around that?
@@myviews469 The noise? You would need to buy a lens that has a silent focus motor, like the newer nano USM lenses or some STM lenses. Or simply get an external mic.
@@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision I have not heard of a silent lens when focusing. Please tell me one.
Is this much different than say a Canon SL3?
It's mirrorless so you get eye AF and such with the viewfinder. Higher FPS for sports, too.
I have an M50 and this... This makes no sense for me to switch. Yet.
fun fact: the R100 has a regular hot shoe. and its the only reason why i chose it over the R50.
Sorry, but another poor APC camera from Canon. All are flawed in some fatal way. Great AF coupled with terrible viewfinders. They are only "good" if you havent looked at anything else. Then they introduce a camera with a crippled hot shoe? Really? Canon is capable of making amazing gear as their full frame line is great. Their APC line has one thing going for it - great AF - followed by one big negative after another.
All these cameras feel like is a trick designed to force you into their higher end line.
Chelsea said something really important. Skip this line and get something much better used.
Sound like an Canon hater. The R7 is a fantastic camera. I've been shooting Canon APS-C cameras for over a decade and the R7 is by far the best of the bunch. Amazing AF and the image quality is fantastic.
R10/r8/RP/r7 are not high end
@teej626 The R7 has great AF and a 2.36 million dot evf. The evf looks okay considering resolution, has a 120hz refresh and good magnification. It's still years behind what comes on any of their higher end cameras and it lags. Why do I want that? On paper it's a great value. Good video specs and very fast. But I want a camera that performs and is enjoyable to use. The reason I didn't go mirrorless many years ago was mediocre EVF's, and this one isn't great.
I want Canon to introduce an R7 with a good, industry standard evf. I would pay hundreds more for it if it had a viewfinder from the R6Ii.
If it's any consolation, I don't like the viewfinders on Sony or Nikon APC cameras either.
I have the M50, and although it's capable, it's time to upgrade. I think I might pass over the R50 and go right to the R10 which is only a little more expensive ($879.00 at B&H this weekend).
my iphone works for me...
A great little camera for that price.👍😊🇮🇪🇺🇲