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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2016
- www.PingSkills.com - Serving Secrets Revealed
This video teaching you about the good areas and bad areas to serve the ball to is part of our Serving Secrets course available on the PingSkills website. Make sure to visit our site where you'll be able to record you progress as you watch all our videos. Also if you ever have any table tennis questions you can ask them by using the Ask the Coach section of the website.
Good luck improving your serving. It is a critical part of table tennis!
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Will See Won't See Olympic Table Tennis, Table Tennis Forehand Counterhit Lesson, How To Execute the Ma Lin Serve, Learn the Backspin Reverse Pendulum Serve, Playing a Faster Forehand Topspin.
Good luck with your table tennis.
Cheers,
Jeff Plumb and Alois Rosario 
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Never thought of that. Brilliant statistic about 80% of the top players serving short. A real eye-opener
I'm glad you found it helpful.
Love the way you speak at a Good TEACHERS pace. At a speed that makes it easily understandable for even a youngster. Thank you.,
You're welcome. I'm glad you are enjoying the tutorials.
Much appreciated explanation.. not many would tell this fact, although, experience is enough for this serve placement tactic.. Guys if you watch this video plz give it a big thums up . the guy deserves many more ...
Thanks for your support.
Watched this video when it came out 2 years ago and I still have a like on this comment
Your videos keep getting better and better. I'm a new player so I've been digging through the old videos quite a bit. Thanks for putting out this information.
You're welcome. Thanks for your support :)
I lay out a bath towel on the opponent side to "trap" the danger-zone balls when I train with serves.
Nice idea Don.
Pingskills is our favorite! Me, my kids and my husband greet each other sometimes "hi" (using your accent). That's a sign that we're in a good mood 😉😂
ha ha, thanks for your support. Say "hi" to everyone for us :)
Jeff reminds me of the 'As seen on TV' commercials, with the hilarious 'accidents', when he intentionally misses the third shots... Still an amazing video.
OK, so I need to work on my acting skills :) Cheers, Jeff.
Wait.. you write with your right hand and you play with your left..? That's amazing!
Yeah that is pretty strange! Cheers, Jeff.
after seeing this lesson a few months ago, I began working on it, and it's made a huge difference when playing the really skillful attackers, I can't win from the serve but keeping it short keeps me in the point
Im a table tennis coach too, and i have actually used some of ur ideas into my coaching, since alot of my students are between the age of 7-15 yrs, and they are new to the sport..
Agreed. Will practice to serve 80% short.
My unofficial coach....
Aprameya Krish mine too
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Another great video from PingSkills!
This may very well be the best serve placement advice I’ve viewed. Thanks coach Aloïs!
Glad you liked it!
you learn a new thing everyday. thanks for this great video!
You're most welcome.
Adam Olaso
Dear Alois and Jeff, your presentation and explanations are too good. You speak slowly, which is very easy to understand and subtitles also help a lot. Great.....
Marvelous video. Thanks. I really needed the tips
Your videos, although old, are awesome!
Good point. Agree 100%. Won couple of singles events serving short last year.
Well done!
What a helpful RUclips programa it is! For me, I can study table tennis and English at the same time.
thanks for this wonderful video
cheers.... pingskills!!!!!!!!
You're welcome!
That was very interesting! Thumbs up!
Almost a scientific approach!
Many thanks for describing the Serving Strategy, this is important for any TT player. Looking forward to describing the techniques of different types of services, best regards.
this is the first video any player looking to take the next step as a table tennis master should watch.
Thanks, clear, simple and useful video. Cheers !
I'm glad you found it helpful.
Loved your video.
Thanks so much, 100% it is effective for me. Good luck for you😇😇😇
Very good lessons for beginners , thank you PingSkills !
Eager to implement it in my office TT matches :)
Thanks, and good luck against your work mates.
Very useful and educative. Thanks.
Great Analysis, would never know of this point without your video, please add more such analysis video.
Thanks. We'll be sure to keep adding more of this type of video.
Thank you Pingskills!
You're welcome :)
hello, loving these tutorials years after realease
Thanks for your support :)
Wow greatly explained 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Many thanks for these great instructions
You're most welcome. We really enjoy making these videos!
Thank you for making this video! I been thinking of serving long and short & what % should I do it for a while. Thanks for answering it with facts of pro players :)
You're welcome. Good luck with your serving!
Very nice play!!!👍
Damn that was a valuable lesson
Cheers from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
It's a very helpful video, thank you pingskills, for helping me improve my playing style,.. I applied these techniques and i found it really very helpful
You are welcome Turiya. Make sure to take a look at the PingSkills website too :)
sure sir
This video about serve placement is really an important one and should be shown to budding TT players as it will help them improve. There are many videos as to how to serve but to win one has to also focus on where to serve. As you play more matches you get the experience and it also depends on your opponent so accordingly the placement needs to get changed. Anyway it is a good video and a good demonstration too.
Thanks Soumik.
this was really interesting
Amazing and helpful videos ! Thank you very much :)
Thanks. Make sure to check out the PingSkills website too :) There you can watch the videos in a structured way and track your progress through our videos.
VERY informative. Thank you!
You're welcome :)
My bro sees your channel and now plays as good as me 😭
Oops, sorry about that!
Very helpful video! Thank you!
You're welcome Luis.
very useful
In my 6 years of playing Table Tennis, my coach has not mentioned that to me once. This video was really helpful.
It certainly is important to think about!
What an observation !! thanks for sharing !!! Neva thought that ma long servers max short serves... thanks for the great explanation
You're welcome :)
Great!!
Oh man, it's been so long since watching Ping skills. But I have a tournament in a few days and getting some good tips is nice. Thanks Ping Skills!
Good luck at your tournament. Let us know how you went.
Well, I was doubled with a good partner and managed to draw against the best player in the tournament in group stages, but I got mentally tired by semi-finals and the serves I used that previously never got returned thanks to your video, got returned every single time. Maybe I shouldn't have used the same serve throughout the tournament. Dealing with the loss has proven difficult because the opponents were supposedly worse than us, and I feel bad for my partner because this is the last he can participate in the tournament. Well, I can always try out for singles next year. :)
Thanks for the update. The important thing is to make sure you enjoy these experiences and learn for the next one. As you said, you can try out for singles next year!
this video is really very helpful to me.
tnk u so much sir
Thank you very much for the video because I have one friend and he always strikes a topspin when I serve and these days I get the chances to do topspin over him
Thanks PingSkills I learned very good Service placement.
You're welcome!
Very useful advice! I can understand being afraid of Ma Long driving my long serves back at me, but I don't think my returns are good enough to deter my opponent yet.
Yes Ma Long would be intimidating :)
Keep working on your topspin though and hopefully it will start to scare your opponents too!
Thank you for such a very useful tip
You're welcome. I'm glad you found it helpful.
Nice tuturial
Thanks!
Awesome video as always, coaches. Thx.
Coach Alois, could you make a video explaining your long topspin serve and your backspin serves, and how you hide them?
Regards!
Thanks for the kinds words. With regards to serving, take a look at our course on the topic - www.pingskills.com/table-tennis/serving-secrets/
thanks for video it hepled a lot
Great to hear. Good luck with your serving!
Wow You're a genius Alois. You're the new Einstein of the world.
awesome video helped me a lot in my competation thankyou very much
You're most welcome. Make sure to checkout the PingSkills website too :)
Thanks great video this will help for improve !!! This cain of video help much more than any video !!!
You're welcome :)
Thanks super coach ;-) grate video!
Best regards
jannis
You're welcome. I'm glad you liked the video.
Wow! All I need to know is how to give these placements against different types of spins
Great video.....
Thanks for the great advise I'm very competitive in this game and when I lose I will do anything to beat that player, need to work on my serves thanks
The production value of your newer videos has been impressive. Keep it up!
Thank you sir
I m very happy to see Benicio del Toro helping us to leard table tennis
thanks 4 the help
You're welcome.
Thanx sir
very nice vedio ...... thankx and go on uploading more vedios!!
Will do. Thanks!
I think your videos are helping me to forward my table tennis carrer.
That is great to hear. Keep enjoying and improving your table tennis.
Good tutorial sir
Thanks!
best!
That long fast serve was ace 👌
Glad you liked it :)
Will try this for sure
Let me know how it goes.
worked pretty well and My serve was bit difficult for beginners to play the one which pitches just after the net
Thanks Man
Good to hear. Keep up the good work.
Cám ơn sự chỉ dẫn nhiệt tình của thầy. Măc dù ngôn ngữ bất đồng nhưng tôi cũng đoán được phần nào của sự hướng dẫn đó.
You're welcome :)
good video
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.
Good coach
Thanks :)
Dangeeer Zooone *High pitch voice
Very Beneficial.
Thanks. I'm glad you found it useful.
thanx I lern from this video
You're welcome.
in doubles table tennis when I serve from the right table first fell
on the left side of the table and then bounced off the right side
of the opponent's in brief pendulum serv approximately valid or
invalid services that I do thank's
Hi I would like some bat advice. I have been using Yinhe Y-1 Blade and Hurricane 3 FH and 729 Aurora BH. People are telling me I should have a new setup and some of them have been suggesting me Kasumi Basic. If I should get Kasumi basic what rubbers should I put on it. I am a mid distance looper and basically use loops for my wincon. Thanks
Sorry we're not really equipment experts and I've never used those rubbers. If you like you can ask a question on the PingSkills website using the ask the coach section and we can open it up to other readers to give you advice.
Can you do a video on how the top players in the world serve? Thanks and nice video!
I'm glad you liked the video. This one is actually part of our Serving Secrets Course which is available on the PingSkills website. It covers all the main serves. Check out the website and let me know what you think.
Very helpful. What about strategies involving which side of the table to hit from and to? A short bounce that goes off the side gives an opportunity like a long ball. Also, the choice of side affects which side they return it to. I'd love to know more about how to use the whole table when serving.
Good points. Experiment yourself with serving from different positions and you'll start to see patterns about where your opponent returns the ball to and what works best for you specifically with your strengths and weaknesses.
I'd say that (right hander vs right hander) pendulum serves should be served (mostly) to the opponent's backhand, and the rest (tomahawk, backhand, reverse pendulum) to the opponent's forehand, since it is harder to return a ball that spins away from you than one that spins into you.
Interesting thoughts. I think it does depend a bit on your opponent. Some people actually find it harder the other way but I think most people prefer the ball spinning in to them as you mentioned.
Of course it depends on the player, but I think it is more efficient to serve how I explained because it is hard to hit the ball down the line (most shots would be crosscourt because of the spin).
Always great advices , is there a video showing how to do short serve @ 80 % of the time ? i like to win .
Not specifically. Try experimenting with where the first bounce lands on the table and watch the effect to see how you can get the ball to bounce twice on your opponent's side. You can also see all of our serving tutorials on the PingSkills website: www.pingskills.com/categories/serving-and-receiving
Good luck!
thanks a lot! one question, at 1:56 you throw the ball to back, this is legal? because in another video says that the ball have to bee vertical
Good observation. Most players around the world serve like this and very rarely get called for a fault. If you are learning though it's best to get into good habits and toss the ball up nearly vertical. I think the rules should be looked at because the umpires very rarely call anything like this a fault. There is also room for interpretation of what is nearly vertical.
I am able to do a short double bounce pendulum serve, but i still get too much curve in the ball flight after the first bounce on the other side. To me, that seems to give the other player a lot of time to track the ball : eg. if I serve short to the middle of the other side, the ball will curve and double bounce to a right-hand player's backhand corner angle.I want backspin but also some sidespin to make it a more difficult serve to receive but I can't seem to control the mix of backspin and side spin.
It sounds like you are on the right track Ronald. Keep working on the serve and I'm sure you'll get the mix right soon. Try experimenting with different angles on the serve and watch the effect it has. Good luck!
Awesome advice. Greetings from the Miami Dade College Wolfson Table Tennis League.
Do you find it useful to serve fast and deep into your opponent's center (in between their forehand and backhand sides)?
Yes that can be a good place to serve to as a surprise. It can also be effective to play there during the rally.
Can you also show a video on how to return serves in good zone close to the net ?
We have a whole series of videos on returning serves on our website - www.pingskills.com/table-tennis/receiving-secrets/
Good luck!
can you do a video on how to do the ovctharov backhand serve. it would really help
We do have a video on this on the PingSkills website. Google "ovtcharov serve pingskills" to see more discussion about this.
cheers
hello pingskills.please do a video of how to serve timo boll's serve..
He often uses the pendulum serve and reverse pendulum serve which we cover in our serving secrets course on the PingSkills website.
+PingSkills ok
Great video, well for me its almost 90% short, because I am bad at long serves. I have a follow-up question..or maybe questionS - you said that short serves give you the first attacking stroke of the rally, but what if your opponent is very good with flicks and the second question is, between two serves - one is lower and bounces barely twice on the table and a serve that is a bit higher but stays on the table (5 or more bounces) - which one would be better?
I am a player who is very good with flicks, I've take short serves, from very short, to almost danger zone, to crazy spin shorts serves and thrown them back to the face of my opponents.
If you were playing me, I would tell you to keep to the sides of the short table but be aware of where they are most likely to hit the ball, and be immediately ready to counter, there isn't much more to be done if they are better than your short serves.
Of course the more spin the less options your opponent has for returning, just don't become predictable, or his flick will get it right where you aren't ready for it.
Unless PingSkills wants to prove me wrong? :D
Great question. In general I think the serve that just bounces a second time on the table is better as it is harder to flick because it's deeper on the table. You can also serve it a bit faster which gives your opponent less time. If your opponent is good at flicking maybe try some longer serves to keep them back a little bit. You can also try mixing up your serves, and if you do a really heavy backspin serve it is hard to flick. Great to see you thinking about these things. Keep working on your serves and practice those long ones :)
It sounds like you have an excellent return which is great. Keep up the good work!
Are you allowed to serve outside the corners of the opponents side of the table. For example a serve that goes left of the left corner of the table?
Yes you are.
Can you pls make a vid of how to smash for beginners? or if you alrdy did pls reply me the link, thx!
What do you think about serving at anti, close to the table players? Is it better to reverse the situation? Would be cool to see more videos for anti players. Cheers from Poland!
I often like to serve without sidespin to anti players, and yes as they can't generate their own topspin it is hard for them to hit a really fast attacking shot so you can certainly serve a lot more long serves to the anti.
Any options for anti players to receive that type of serve properly other than twiddling? Hard hit? Or loose grip chop (all-round donic anti rubber + all plus bat). Thanks
Twiddling is quite a good option. Without doing that you can try and hit the ball but as you can't generate much of your own spin there's not a big margin for error. That's why these rubbers are more defensive and hence a lot of players would chop such a serve back.
Why is it when serving a normal side forehand sidepin serve most players lock their upper arm so it in the same angle as the floor insted on letting the arm move through when you hit the ball like forming a reverse L with the upper and lower arm. There must be an advantage doing this
Imho it's just to decrease the amount they would need to swing their arm in order to return a straight while being in the position to receive a cross
I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I think that most of the spin is generated by the forearm and the wrist for the serve. Because the wrist is moving very quickly it makes it quite hard if you have a big arm movement for the serve too.
do you have tips on what spin of serve to use to set up a good third/fourth ball attack?
What is a good game plan for a double wing looper , chinese penhold player..?
When starting in this sport .. I thought that a good serve are those makes my opponent fail to return it... so when my opponent were good at reading spin then I have no game plan and most of the time fail..
It is good to have an effective serve but as you found out you need to also have good strokes. With the serve, it really depends on your opponent. The key is to vary the spin, speed, and placement of each serve to keep your opponent guessing.
Go through our strokes and techniques section of the PingSkills website and see if you can improve in this area. Good luck!
PingSkills will do. thanks for that
I served a lot more short serves against the best player in my school (I'm the second best) but when I serve long and fast as a surprise,I get a very fast receive and I didn't have time to attack...
Interesting, so it seems they are ready for you long serve. In that case maybe you can try placing this type of serve in a different spot.
Is it good to serve nospinn balls (long/short) against long pipes?
That can work well. Since the long pimples cannot generate any spin of their own you know you will get a no spin ball back so it is very predictable and if you are good at returning this type of ball then use the no spin serve a lot.