4:07 This hit harder when you realize that this song first plays when Kaine talks about how much she loathes herself during the fight with the shade that killed her grandma after it tried to trick her. Man...
All this time I've been listening to this song and I never knew there's a subtle 2nd singer underneath the main singer. Which symbolize Kaine and the shadows within her. 2 separate identity within one body. Amazing attention to detail and pointing it out. Thank you.
i thought it was more like the shade version of her grandma telling her she should stop living vs the real version from her memory but there’s probably a few ways to interpret it
@@arseniykorchevskiy1564 if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong, this song was used during Kaine's Dream on 2nd playthrough. The text was told from Kaine's pov when she was a child. As if recalling her past. Hence why I thought its actually Kaine's and the shadow personality while recalling her memory with her grandma. Of course the song plays out during the boss fight too. Idk, during boss fight, the monster merely imitate her grandma voice.
@@MarcoMeatballlol the game hits so hard. Kaine is even a hermaphrodite but it's not directly mentioned in the game. So much pain they've all been thru. It's a good game for dealing with emotions and grief.
Spoiler ahead!!! The "Shadow voiceline" he describes is a reflection of the "Tyrant", a malevolent second soul that is trapped along in Kaine's body. She is carrying this demonic entity, that eats up her presence, trying to take over his host body, ruining Kaine's life, making her an outcast. The Tyrant is rivaled by the only benevolent being in her life (until she meets Emil and Father Nier) - her Grandma, which is swallowed by a shadow gestalt-being that haunts Kaine, taunting her in her Granny's voice, as the soul of the grandmother is still trapped alongside in the huge shadow-Gestalt, combined from hundrets of souls, mingled into a monster.
I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head with your analysis. I really hope you get to experience the part of the game in which this plays, because it is truly a powerful moment. The crescendos in the second part as the notes climb, to me at least, also perfectly encapsulated the character's raw anger at being deceived and the desire to retaliate. I won't spoil it anymore for you because I really hope you'll play the game. There's a remake of it called Nier Replicant v. 1.22 etc that came out last year if you're interested. It's definitely worth your time!
@@MarcoMeatball ooh please do the other 2 playthroughs! ending C and D depend on one choice. (idk about the new Replicant remake tho I just know there is an ending E)
Pretty much nailed it, contextually. I love how flexible Chaos language is. It really does sound French in this song, I feel like the advantage of Chaos language is that it can sound like other languages, and other languages can fill an emotional niché just by the way they flow. Didn't hear the second voice until you pointed it out and then I really listened hard for it. Very good video, looking forward to your next! :D
Yes, this is the absolute best thing about Chaos Language. You need to make it sound emotional? Take inspiration from arguably the most emotional-sounding language. You need it to hit harder? Just use harsher pronunciation. You want it to sound childish? Just replace your entire vocabulary with childish sounds. You're not limited in any way by what makes sense or even sounds correct.
As you go through all of the songs in Nier Replicant/Gestalt in particular, Emi Evans in an interview did mention that a lot of the chaos language lyrics are based off real languages and then warped to emulate how language changes over time (mostly because Nier is set in the distant future) and Grandma was based off french, Kaine is based of Gaelic, Wretched Automatons is based of English, etc. The only one that I can recall that is not based off a particular language is Song of the Ancients (I would encourage you to listen to all of the versions of it, there's about 4 in Nier Replicant/Gestalt, they are all interestingly unique and all worth a proper listen in their own right). *Spoilers Below for Context* Grandma plays when the protagonist and Kaine fight in a boss fight for the first time together. Kaine in particular has a vested interest in defeating this creature and the song plays after the creature releases a gas that makes Kaine think that the creature is her grandma which, unluckily for the creature, really pisses her off.
you bringing up the whole "shadow" thing kinda shocked me, because i never really realized that that's a part of the song and it actually does tie into the character it's related to in an interesting way, which makes me think that it was definitely purposeful
It absolutely blows my mind how well you are able to perfectly describe the emotion of the piece without having played the game. It’s in no small part to your talent, and to the talent of Keiichi Okabe and his team, but it also leaves me speechless to see the power that music has to convey strong emotions without saying a single word. Great video.
I really liked your interpretation of the snares. This song evokes loss and mourning to me. The snares shows the will to move on with our life after a tragic event. And learning to live with the pain which never truly goes away (as the piano is repeating the same melody over and over).
I love this analysis! This song makes me think of the anguish in existence. Its foreboding and sad, but elicits a sense of melancholy and accepting. Please listen to the Grissini Project's cover. They include a second part of this song that's played in a later game in the Nier series that is more upbeat but still carries the same sadness. It's much like how you take a final stand against that which holds you back. You let a part of yourself go to become better, but its a sacrifice nonetheless.
@@illogicalparadox Certainly the truest most classical performance of the piece. I was really intrigued by the instrumentation and her singing, using her classical technique. Makes me want to sing it.... Great recc.
The cover Grissini project did with the orchestra is one of my favourite songs ever. One of the most powerful performances I've heard and I think the only song that has made me cry just because how powerful it is. No depressing lyrics to make you cry, just intense instrumentation and an incredible singer
So, some context without giving anything away, is that this music actually plays while explaining some of Kaine's backstory. But, it is all done via a black screen with some white text (at least in Replicant). It's amazing how to music drives the way you read the text, you can feel the tension as you read line after line, it's so well done. None of it is animated, there is no epic boss fight, just some music and a story via text and it works in the best way. I think it allows the player to truly enjoy the music and what story the music is telling in a way that having music during a boss fight doesn't easily allow.
🤩 my prayers have been answered, you've done Grandma! I read an interview with Emi Evans, and the chaos language in Grandma is indeed based on French (if you ever do The Wretched Automatons, that one is based on English). Also... You've hit the nail on the head about the second voice in more ways than one. You'll see what I mean if you play the game (although I see some commenters have mentioned that already)
I'm a native french speaker. and the langage is definitely not french but also isn't definitely not french. it's very peculiar a feeling. Like my mind grabs words but and fill the rest with sentence that makes some to no senses but it is not what i've heard. I guess it has the same effect to english speaker listening to engrish.
It most certainly does. Not so much in this song, but there's a song in Automata, City Ruins, where I often feel like I can just barely grasp words or phrases and then I'm like 'no wait...' so its a weirdly universal experience.
its called chaos langauge and they had speech specialist basicly make it so it mixture of all dominant langauge basicly simulate evolution into the future of langauge evolving
Recently my own grandmother passed on and when I go back an listen to this particular music it elicits different emotions for me than it originally did. For me it resonates quite strongly with a sense of trying to pick yourself up and carry on through all the heartbreak and anguish. Taking all the pain and using it to make yourself stronger but at the same time there is always this darker despair lurking just underneath the surface that you continually struggle with in order to keep your head above the water so to speak. You know the person you loved would want you to be happy and move on with life but you feel like if you do it would be like you are forgetting them and it tears at you. When I hear the second voice I hear the loved one lost pushing the singer forward, to get stronger and live.
Wow thank you for sharing. I felt some of that as well as at the time of recording it had been exactly three months since my father passed away from cancer. So, I felt this felt this deep sense of loss and trying to resurrect and coexist with the pain of loss. Beautiful ! Thank you for sharing.
Nier is such an emotional roller coaster of a game, and the music in it adds SO much. To be honest the score adds like +2 review points outta 10 at least for me enhancing the experience the whole way.
I've noticed Chaos Language tends to highlight, depending on the song, French, Italian, Japanese, and Celtic. The flexibility of this made-up language is brilliant. Emi should get an award for it. Also, this song sounds like a military-style funerary march
I swear this man looks like he's about to breakdown everytime he does a video I love it. Only recently discovered your channel cause of elden ring and nier but I like your commentary.
This song is one of my all-time favorites from NieR. Your analysis is SPOT ON with how it's presented in the game, so much so I'm surprised you haven't played through the section where it appears. There are several layers to this song in relation to the character its tied to, and your description is stellar at capturing who it is without you even knowing the character! That just goes to show how much the composer and music team poured their heart into this game to make it as impactful and accurate as possible, and I love every single minute of it. I hope you get the opportunity to finish out NieR: Replicant and experience the story in its entirety, it is a life-changing game.
The way you look on the verge of tears at several points during this song just makes me want to cuddle you, man. XD Completely agree with the analysis on all fronts, by the way. My first exposure to "Grandma" was the Destruction version that appears in NieR: Automata-same melodies and harmonies of course, but add this giant orchestral bombasticness going on all throughout and a full choir as well. (Definitely recommend you check that out ASAP if you haven't already!) When I went to the first game with the Replicant remake, this version-the original-hit me and boy... did it hit me. I have to say that the way you described getting into video game music through FF games reminded me very much of my own childhood. I also had a classically trained vocal upbringing (didn't pursue the mastery level of opera, though; the closest I got was performing Haydn's Missa in Angustiis as Tenor I, with a full orchestra and choir), and through school I focused on instrumental music as well. For my college entrance essays trying to get a small scholarship, I actually wrote on how video game music was quickly becoming our generation's symphonies and operas. I talked about Nobuo Uematsu (FF), Yasunori Mitsuda (Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, Xenosaga, etc.) and Motoi Sakuraba (Star Ocean, Tales of ___, Dark Souls 1 and 2, Golden Sun, etc.) who ended up becoming my personal favorite composer. You're almost like a bro from another mother, that's how much of a big kinship I felt with ya. Have my subscription, and I definitely look forward to seeing more content in the future!
Aw Man this is amazing to read. Thank you so much for sharing your journey with me. It’s certainly a difficult one but I’m glad you got to have the experience. Classical music is a tough nut to crack and beyond that it is incredibly toxic and painful at times soooo dodged a bullet. Thanks for your kind words too btw. I was on the verge of tears for multiple reasons :)
as a listener, this song is, to me, the greatest of the NieR world. in fact, i learned on the piano to feel it on my own hands. But, i could not explain why this song talks to me. your thoughts on the second voice and on the meaning of it just gave words and interpretation to the power of the song. thank you, really. I will not again listen it as the same way i used to. Thank you!!! (sry for bad english)
I know others have mentioned it but your description is spot on about the music (also I didn’t realize there was a second voice). I’m subbing bc I’d like to see you cover more songs from Nier simply bc they’re good, emotional, and strong. I can’t describe it quite right but it’s like the music seems chosen from before the scene was built or they were made side by side, enhancing both to where yes you’re playing a game but the emotions are so strong and clear you can’t ignore them.
To me this song represents grief and hope at the same time. The gentle and loving will of lost people, those dear to you, pushing you to move forward in their absence and not to give up despite the immense sorrow.
Great reaction :) I think the Chaos Language sounds unnervingly like French in this song because of the way she pronounces her 'r's, but also a bunch of subtle details... The words here _could_ have been French, in another world: they use similar sounds, similarly constructed words, and the singer pronounces them as a French would, with the correct intonation and all. I noticed all of this because I'm French myself, and... wow when I first heard this song it tripped me up. The words obviously made no sense but my brain was screaming at me "French!! I recognize French!"... Almost like the meaning of the song was _just_ around the corner, within grasping range, but that it kept eluding me. It just brought Grandma to a whole new level for me, adding a fleeting feeling to this heartbreaking song about loss.
The overall style of both nier and nier automata, remind me of older anime, for example Noir. Beautiful, melancholic, almost downright sad yet also strangely soothing even romantic at times. A huge part of what made these two games so successful and memorable was their emphasis on creating strong atmosphere, by combining visuals with 1st rate audio. Both these things combined push the story to it's limits. A truely remarkable piece of art
I seem to remember Emi Evans saying that for the OG Nier, each song, while in a made up language, was meant to evoke certain feelings that are present in existing languages, so this one was very likely meant to emulate French without actually *being* French. In Automata, since it takes place SO far in the future, it was meant to be more of a blend of languages, what all of our modern languages would converge into by the year 11,945. English, French, Japanese, Latin, and Gaelic were the major linguistic influences for Chaos if I remember correctly, though I may be misremembering.
This usually played during kainés backstory. Which isnt animated but you get blocks of texts at points of your second(?) Playthrough, and this plays at the appropriate parts of the text(you have to advance the text with button pushes) The story is about her tragic background and how her grandma took her in protected and raised her, their life together, and her grandma's eventual death by a shade, and how she became part shade. Hence the second singer.
@@MarcoMeatball Well i think it doesnt play at all in route A, but i might be wrong. You need to play through the second half of the game like 4 times to get all the content now? And context. As much as i like Nier games the multiple playthroughs stuff overstays its welcome a bit. Its actually kinda genious how it transforms and expands the same story for you but its repetetive at the same time.
Nah man this video is peak quality, just by hearing it once you managed to sirurgicaly discover one of the character lore and evolution, i personally think this is the best music in the game and you described perfectly everithing i feel when i hear it and if the soundtrack wasn't enough to convince you to play the game i don't know what could.
if you want to feel it full i recomend you to play all the series games(drakengard 1 and 3, nier and nier automata) to fully understand the lore and carry it's baggage through your life
I never play nier series but listening this Grandma with its predecessor grandma Destruction. I can feel an Emotion that start from a sadness then it builds up into Anger and those Anger turn the person into Madness
I've listened to this song plenty of times, but I never noticed the second vocalist until you pointed it out. I think what's interesting about it is that you really can't hear her most of the time. Instead, you can only hear her during the brief moments where the two singers aren't quite perfectly in time with eachother. Cool stuff.
The struggle and the sacrifice represent Kaine's "grandma" the old woman just lost her life but before that she was able to talk whit Kaine, so the second voice is some kind of response to what the grandma tells to Kaine, this song represent a really sad moment before Kaine takes resolution so we can say you got most parts of what this song tries to tell, is a great musical piece
The way you dissect these musical piece’s is amazing! I check your channel almost daily for what’s next.PLEASE do Gods Bound By Rules from Nier Gestalt!🤞🏾🤞🏾
You have no idea how hauntingly spot on you are with your analysis of the shadow/ second voice. You couldn't be more spot on You must play nier replicant asap
As a french person, this song feels familiar and strange at the same time. It is a really strange feeling but I loved it, and now it is one of my favorite song. I loved your analysis and now I'm looking forward to the next one.
very few times there are songs that perfectly protray scenes in games, but everytime i hear this it always shows me kaine's grandma in the shack and kaine losing her.
Emi Evans, and the possible others, who worked on the Chaos language did such a good job developing it for the game. I believe it's a mix of German, Hungarian, Welsh, Japanese, French, and Latin. Emi also added in extra sounds she came up with to mix it all together. I think she did also say in a blog post about it, that Grandma was intentionally more French-like in language as directed by Okabe.
A lot of the chaos language used in nier music has a “tinge”( is that the word?) of french or a romantic language touch to it. Nier is a always a masterpiece. Thanks for the amazing analysis.
Last year when the newer version of the game came out, i was listening to the original OST so much, then i realised, that this Grandma is the same as the Grandma in NieR: Automata. Except this one is sadder and the other one is badass 🤣 i think you will love these little things, if you are doing all NieR music. This is the reason i would like to learn to play on the piano, just this track. That would be such an achievement for me.
A LOT of the music in Automata is either homage or new versions of Gestalt/Replicant music! Grandma, The Dark Colossus (which is 'Kaiju' now), Emil: Sacrifice has THREE new versions in Automata, Wretched Weaponry is clearly the next part of Wretched Automatons, etc etc...
I remember when the Nier soundtrack first came out; it was definitely unlike anything I had heard previously. Nier is set in the future, and the sound team instructed Evans to image how French would sound thousands of years in the future.
Without knowing the character you managed to describe Kainè This scenes with this plays are called The Divine Tree of Memory and Kainè’s Dreams. There’s no gameplay or vocals just reading. I highly recommend watching those not as a reaction just for yourself. Tragic but beautiful
Everything you felt from the song, despite not knowing the context of Nier: Gestalt, was so powerful and surprisingly spot on! SInce I played this first Nier game extensively, I zero in on the march of the snare drum coming in. It feels like perfect expression of the character Kaine's dogged determination in the face of so much sorrow and loss. There's a lot to love in this song.
Ooooo I had one okay through of replicant so I have to finish the other stuff. Didn’t realize that there was a whole actual context here that I sort of got right haha
Honestly, I think all the music from NieR and Drakengard can invoke a lot of different feelings and add to what is happening in the game/s. a number of songs can make you feel joy, sadness and determination or even loss. And speaking of, I forgot to mention songs for Xenoblade Chronicles in my last comment so I will here: "Main Theme" "Prologue A" "Prologue B" "Colony 9" Colony 9 (Night)" "Regret" "Face" "Unfinished Business" "Valak Mountain" "Valak Mountain (Night)" "Towering Shadow" "Shulk and Fiora" "Ancient Mysteries" "Tragic Decision" "God-Slaying Sword" "Once We Part Ways" and "Ending Theme - Beyond the Sky" I've played the original game for the Wii (and replayed it again and again) and am now playing the Definitive Edition on the Switch, in which the music was composed by four different people for the game, which says a lot. Also if you do check out the music and you listen to the area/town themes listen to the day and night versions back to back, as it adds more to the places in question and makes it feel more alive. Not to mention the story and characters are great. and one song I mentioned Unfinished Business is played for one small scene and you never hear it again, but it gives so much, so if you do decide to listen go for it and the main theme first. 😊
Absolutely it does! But some of the vowels and the way the language rolls also has some similarities. It just sounds so different from say a beautiful song which has hints of italian and city ruin which sounds English!
At the moment of playing Nier Replicant 1.22, I heared this during the first fight you normally encounter this song, and was stunned by how absolutely haunting yet beautiful it sounded. My take away from this track specifically is the emotional torment Kaine felt when losing the only parental figure in her life to some monster. And how that monster mocks her grandmother throughout the fight just adds so much more to the piece. Just like Emil-Despair, so much emphasis on the characters emotions throughout the track, its amazing.
Also I'd like to ad the moment the drums kick in, I take it as kaine reaffirming her resolve and finally fighting back for herself and the ones she cares for.
I'm about halfway through the new replicant version, I think I remember distinctly hearing this track used when a shade tries manipulating kainé, it only lasts about a minute there and it feels through this song there's a lot of pain there, from what little kainé actually says about her vengeance. there's also a more dramatic, bombastic version that to me is a little like A Beautiful Song from the opera singer in Automata, though it makes sense that Automata's music is much more closely tied to that boss, you don't really hear it outside of another epic moment near the end of route C from what I remember the more bombastic version of Grandma though is called Grandma/Reunion from what I can find, at about the true halfway point, you get a very gamified mission to look for ciphers to continue and choose where to look first. one choice in replicant now has you choose a mission that was originally a novella where you explore a shipwreck, you find a boss, the last boss I've fought so far which I can find is named Louise two things that stand out to me about Louise is that the real fight with her shows her to be twice the size of another boss that was as tall as the library, and the other of course is Grandma/Reunion blasting throughout the fight. what I want to know is does anyone else hear "Louise" somewhere in Grandma's more vocal verse or is it just me associating it with the new boss?
i know i'm super late to this, and i'm not sure if this interview was out at the time, but the reason this song sounds french is because, as the singer revealed in an interview, each song was based on a language that she believed would fit the music. in this case, it was actually french that was chosen! so good ear :)
The music in the Nier series always makes me cry, it reminds me of how tragic the story is and the composition is incredible. Keiichi Okabe is the best
french speaker here, when i heard the song for the first time it threw me off so bad because i could detect the french, but when i tried making out words i couldn't
Not sure if anyone has mentioned yet but this song was originally going to be the opening and main theme of the game rather than snow in summer. Which is very interesting after reaching and finishing ending e.
0:56 "Things don't need huge or bombastic or full of huge orchestra to hit us where it counts" Quite Ironic considering the existance of Grandma - Destruction in NieR:Automata... Though I feel like the effectiveness of that track is mainly felt if you know and recognize the original Grandma song.
How are you so accurately describing plot themes without playing the game just from this piece? Are these feelings so clearly encoded into the arrangement? It's uncanny haha
@@MarcoMeatball Ah, makes sense. It's still believable that it communicates those feelings through the music though, just likely not at that resolution lol
Do you think you'll talk about Grandma - Destruction in the future? I'd be very interested to hear your take on it, as you never fail to understand the meaning behind everything you listen to
For the French vibe I think it's because of some sound, like the "u" is pronounce french way and not "ou", same for the "r". I'm French and some word sound like some French word but it's not ^^ Excellent video by the way! :3
As a French yes the first time I heard it I was searching what were the lyrics cause it didn't meant anything but some words seemed to be "carré", "sauve-la", "flâner", "nez" "roux"... ( Also it's chANson not "chAs(s)on" ^^ in phonetic it's pronounced {ʃãsɔ̃} ) Love your videos ^^
The reason this song sounds like it's French is because it is based on French. The song 'Song of the Ancients' is the only song on the Nier OST where the language is completely made up. When Emi Evans (the vocalist and lyricist) was worried that all the songs may end up sounding the same, the composer, Keichii Okabe suggested that she use already existing languages and make them her own for the other songs, thus creating chaos language. Your analysis of this is great though! I love how you picked all that up without even playing the game ... I highly recommend the game, it is one of my faves! (The soundtrack was how I discovered it in the first place! 🥰)
I love Nier's music and although I've only played Automata, both it and Replicant remain to be one of my favorite soundtracks in all of gaming. Watching people like yourself give their thoughts on them makes me appreciate them more. If I may recommend a series of games to listen to, you should check out Ace Combat. In specific you should listen to "Zero" from Ace Combat Zero. Great track that really enhances the fight it plays to.
You should watch the walkthroughs so you can gain some context. I watched the original nier on RUclips (around 4 years ago) in the background when working on some jewellery. The story was amazing and the soundtrack was to.
@@MarcoMeatball you're going to love it. Please don't watch the final (new) ending until you watch nier automata. If you want to be spiritually moved at least lol
I'm French and after listening to this song, I must say that I perfectly see what you mean when you say it sounds a lot like French. I guess we could say that the French language usually sounds calmer and quiet compared to most languages. Maybe that's why many love it for how different it sounds, I don't know. That might be due to the fact that stressed letters and syllables don't exist in French, making it more flat and monotonous. I always found that French was a language more suitable for calm, sad and slow songs with long lasting words and that it's where it shines. Fast and energetic lyrics are generally hard to write in French in comparison because of this lack of stressed syllables which makes it naturally less tuneful I think. So you only rely on the way you choose to sing the word and you often need to use some tricks to match the rhythm because French words are generally long to pronounce. That's why I think that French is a language primerarly thought for writing, which could also explain why people generally find that it puts emphasis on deep feelings, romantism and so on because it developed more this way, using multiple words to precise your thoughts. Whereas I find that English is a more catchy language for exemple with quick words, quick sentences which is totally appropriate for fast rhythms and talking in general. *PS:* I think a simple parallele can be made to illustrate what I mean with the way you pronounce the French word "chanson" for exemple. A natural tendency of many languages can be to accentuate a syllable of the word, which is the sound "on" here. With a perfect (most typical) French accent, the "on" at the end would be more quiet with the same duration and volume for each part of the word (I precise most typical because various other French accents obviously exist depending of the department but it's the most neutral here). It's pronounced a bit too tuneful here ah ah ! It's still good though.
@@MarcoMeatball If I may add my own suggestions to your fantastic music reactions, I would suggest you "A Tragic Decision", "Zanza the divine" from Xenoblade Chronicles (Definitive Edition) and "The Power of Jin", "The Decision" and "After Despair and Hope" from Xenoblade Chronicles 2. The series from Tetsuya Takahashi who formerly worked at Square Enix is known for it's very good music and story. But I think these pieces in particular will fit the kind of music you react to more. Also the episode 3 will come soon this september so it's potentially very good for future RUclips content ;D.
As a french i can tell it's strange, the sonority of words and sentences are very familiar but i can't understand anything ^^ (especially on this one and "Song of the Ancients")
its interesting on how (I would call it epic gibberish) this kinds of song by Japanese composers will mix Japanese language with French for the most part I would recommend listen to songs from Ar Tonelico (the one that called hymnos), you can find it on youtube with subtitles
I would also like to suggest listening to the song that plays at the very end during the credits of Dark Souls 1. Nameless Song It sounds when your journey is over, and this is the most accurate and short description of the context that I can come up with.
4:07 This hit harder when you realize that this song first plays when Kaine talks about how much she loathes herself during the fight with the shade that killed her grandma after it tried to trick her. Man...
All this time I've been listening to this song and I never knew there's a subtle 2nd singer underneath the main singer. Which symbolize Kaine and the shadows within her. 2 separate identity within one body.
Amazing attention to detail and pointing it out. Thank you.
i thought it was more like the shade version of her grandma telling her she should stop living vs the real version from her memory but there’s probably a few ways to interpret it
@@arseniykorchevskiy1564 if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong, this song was used during Kaine's Dream on 2nd playthrough.
The text was told from Kaine's pov when she was a child. As if recalling her past.
Hence why I thought its actually Kaine's and the shadow personality while recalling her memory with her grandma. Of course the song plays out during the boss fight too. Idk, during boss fight, the monster merely imitate her grandma voice.
❤️❤️❤️❤️😭 thanks for sharing
@@MarcoMeatballlol the game hits so hard. Kaine is even a hermaphrodite but it's not directly mentioned in the game. So much pain they've all been thru. It's a good game for dealing with emotions and grief.
Spoiler ahead!!! The "Shadow voiceline" he describes is a reflection of the "Tyrant", a malevolent second soul that is trapped along in Kaine's body. She is carrying this demonic entity, that eats up her presence, trying to take over his host body, ruining Kaine's life, making her an outcast. The Tyrant is rivaled by the only benevolent being in her life (until she meets Emil and Father Nier) - her Grandma, which is swallowed by a shadow gestalt-being that haunts Kaine, taunting her in her Granny's voice, as the soul of the grandmother is still trapped alongside in the huge shadow-Gestalt, combined from hundrets of souls, mingled into a monster.
Tyrann, the shade that inhabited Kaine.
Tyrann and his growth throughout the game is surprisingly one of my favorite 'character arcs' in NieR's world.
the story of Nier is both tragic and incredibly weird
Everything what you just said is exactly what song is EXACTLY telling.
WOW!!!
I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head with your analysis. I really hope you get to experience the part of the game in which this plays, because it is truly a powerful moment. The crescendos in the second part as the notes climb, to me at least, also perfectly encapsulated the character's raw anger at being deceived and the desire to retaliate. I won't spoil it anymore for you because I really hope you'll play the game. There's a remake of it called Nier Replicant v. 1.22 etc that came out last year if you're interested. It's definitely worth your time!
Beautiful take.I need to go finish replicant. Only did play through 1
5 endings. As per usual with Yoko Taro games!
Also dont forget there's like 3 versions of this (I think?) Total! Each one gosh darn amazing
@@MarcoMeatball ooh please do the other 2 playthroughs! ending C and D depend on one choice. (idk about the new Replicant remake tho I just know there is an ending E)
Pretty much nailed it, contextually. I love how flexible Chaos language is. It really does sound French in this song, I feel like the advantage of Chaos language is that it can sound like other languages, and other languages can fill an emotional niché just by the way they flow. Didn't hear the second voice until you pointed it out and then I really listened hard for it. Very good video, looking forward to your next! :D
Yes, this is the absolute best thing about Chaos Language.
You need to make it sound emotional? Take inspiration from arguably the most emotional-sounding language.
You need it to hit harder? Just use harsher pronunciation.
You want it to sound childish? Just replace your entire vocabulary with childish sounds.
You're not limited in any way by what makes sense or even sounds correct.
As you go through all of the songs in Nier Replicant/Gestalt in particular, Emi Evans in an interview did mention that a lot of the chaos language lyrics are based off real languages and then warped to emulate how language changes over time (mostly because Nier is set in the distant future) and Grandma was based off french, Kaine is based of Gaelic, Wretched Automatons is based of English, etc. The only one that I can recall that is not based off a particular language is Song of the Ancients (I would encourage you to listen to all of the versions of it, there's about 4 in Nier Replicant/Gestalt, they are all interestingly unique and all worth a proper listen in their own right).
*Spoilers Below for Context*
Grandma plays when the protagonist and Kaine fight in a boss fight for the first time together. Kaine in particular has a vested interest in defeating this creature and the song plays after the creature releases a gas that makes Kaine think that the creature is her grandma which, unluckily for the creature, really pisses her off.
you bringing up the whole "shadow" thing kinda shocked me, because i never really realized that that's a part of the song and it actually does tie into the character it's related to in an interesting way, which makes me think that it was definitely purposeful
It absolutely blows my mind how well you are able to perfectly describe the emotion of the piece without having played the game. It’s in no small part to your talent, and to the talent of Keiichi Okabe and his team, but it also leaves me speechless to see the power that music has to convey strong emotions without saying a single word. Great video.
As an avid fan of the entire NieR series, this is my absolute #1 favorite song, I am so excited about this video.
I like Kaine Salvation, but the most touching will be Ashes of Dream
Same for me Kirsi
Thank you for your words but also your enthusiasm it really is beautiful
I really liked your interpretation of the snares. This song evokes loss and mourning to me. The snares shows the will to move on with our life after a tragic event. And learning to live with the pain which never truly goes away (as the piano is repeating the same melody over and over).
I love this analysis! This song makes me think of the anguish in existence. Its foreboding and sad, but elicits a sense of melancholy and accepting. Please listen to the Grissini Project's cover. They include a second part of this song that's played in a later game in the Nier series that is more upbeat but still carries the same sadness. It's much like how you take a final stand against that which holds you back. You let a part of yourself go to become better, but its a sacrifice nonetheless.
Ill listen to the cover today!
@@MarcoMeatball How did you enjoy it?
@@illogicalparadox Certainly the truest most classical performance of the piece. I was really intrigued by the instrumentation and her singing, using her classical technique. Makes me want to sing it....
Great recc.
The cover Grissini project did with the orchestra is one of my favourite songs ever. One of the most powerful performances I've heard and I think the only song that has made me cry just because how powerful it is. No depressing lyrics to make you cry, just intense instrumentation and an incredible singer
So, some context without giving anything away, is that this music actually plays while explaining some of Kaine's backstory. But, it is all done via a black screen with some white text (at least in Replicant). It's amazing how to music drives the way you read the text, you can feel the tension as you read line after line, it's so well done. None of it is animated, there is no epic boss fight, just some music and a story via text and it works in the best way. I think it allows the player to truly enjoy the music and what story the music is telling in a way that having music during a boss fight doesn't easily allow.
Ooooooohhhhhhh good to know! That’s wild.
Also plays during a boss fight though
🤩 my prayers have been answered, you've done Grandma! I read an interview with Emi Evans, and the chaos language in Grandma is indeed based on French (if you ever do The Wretched Automatons, that one is based on English). Also... You've hit the nail on the head about the second voice in more ways than one. You'll see what I mean if you play the game (although I see some commenters have mentioned that already)
I'm a native french speaker. and the langage is definitely not french but also isn't definitely not french. it's very peculiar a feeling. Like my mind grabs words but and fill the rest with sentence that makes some to no senses but it is not what i've heard. I guess it has the same effect to english speaker listening to engrish.
It most certainly does. Not so much in this song, but there's a song in Automata, City Ruins, where I often feel like I can just barely grasp words or phrases and then I'm like 'no wait...' so its a weirdly universal experience.
its called chaos langauge and they had speech specialist basicly make it so it mixture of all dominant langauge basicly simulate evolution into the future of langauge evolving
great video looking forward for your next reactions im impressed each time you nail the emotions
Thank you! Just making stuff up 😂
Recently my own grandmother passed on and when I go back an listen to this particular music it elicits different emotions for me than it originally did. For me it resonates quite strongly with a sense of trying to pick yourself up and carry on through all the heartbreak and anguish. Taking all the pain and using it to make yourself stronger but at the same time there is always this darker despair lurking just underneath the surface that you continually struggle with in order to keep your head above the water so to speak. You know the person you loved would want you to be happy and move on with life but you feel like if you do it would be like you are forgetting them and it tears at you. When I hear the second voice I hear the loved one lost pushing the singer forward, to get stronger and live.
Wow thank you for sharing. I felt some of that as well as at the time of recording it had been exactly three months since my father passed away from cancer. So, I felt this felt this deep sense of loss and trying to resurrect and coexist with the pain of loss. Beautiful ! Thank you for sharing.
Nier is such an emotional roller coaster of a game, and the music in it adds SO much. To be honest the score adds like +2 review points outta 10 at least for me enhancing the experience the whole way.
I've noticed Chaos Language tends to highlight, depending on the song, French, Italian, Japanese, and Celtic. The flexibility of this made-up language is brilliant. Emi should get an award for it.
Also, this song sounds like a military-style funerary march
the love I have for Emi Evans voice... she really touches me
She’s incredible.
I swear this man looks like he's about to breakdown everytime he does a video I love it. Only recently discovered your channel cause of elden ring and nier but I like your commentary.
Hahahaha I’m just always tired.
This song is one of my all-time favorites from NieR. Your analysis is SPOT ON with how it's presented in the game, so much so I'm surprised you haven't played through the section where it appears. There are several layers to this song in relation to the character its tied to, and your description is stellar at capturing who it is without you even knowing the character! That just goes to show how much the composer and music team poured their heart into this game to make it as impactful and accurate as possible, and I love every single minute of it. I hope you get the opportunity to finish out NieR: Replicant and experience the story in its entirety, it is a life-changing game.
Crazy how well you nailed this. Especially the second voice representing duality, or a shadow self. Very good interpretations. 😊
this is so good man, thanks
Thank you!
The way you look on the verge of tears at several points during this song just makes me want to cuddle you, man. XD
Completely agree with the analysis on all fronts, by the way. My first exposure to "Grandma" was the Destruction version that appears in NieR: Automata-same melodies and harmonies of course, but add this giant orchestral bombasticness going on all throughout and a full choir as well. (Definitely recommend you check that out ASAP if you haven't already!) When I went to the first game with the Replicant remake, this version-the original-hit me and boy... did it hit me.
I have to say that the way you described getting into video game music through FF games reminded me very much of my own childhood. I also had a classically trained vocal upbringing (didn't pursue the mastery level of opera, though; the closest I got was performing Haydn's Missa in Angustiis as Tenor I, with a full orchestra and choir), and through school I focused on instrumental music as well. For my college entrance essays trying to get a small scholarship, I actually wrote on how video game music was quickly becoming our generation's symphonies and operas. I talked about Nobuo Uematsu (FF), Yasunori Mitsuda (Chrono Trigger, Xenogears, Xenosaga, etc.) and Motoi Sakuraba (Star Ocean, Tales of ___, Dark Souls 1 and 2, Golden Sun, etc.) who ended up becoming my personal favorite composer.
You're almost like a bro from another mother, that's how much of a big kinship I felt with ya. Have my subscription, and I definitely look forward to seeing more content in the future!
Aw Man this is amazing to read. Thank you so much for sharing your journey with me. It’s certainly a difficult one but I’m glad you got to have the experience. Classical music is a tough nut to crack and beyond that it is incredibly toxic and painful at times soooo dodged a bullet. Thanks for your kind words too btw. I was on the verge of tears for multiple reasons :)
as a listener, this song is, to me, the greatest of the NieR world. in fact, i learned on the piano to feel it on my own hands. But, i could not explain why this song talks to me. your thoughts on the second voice and on the meaning of it just gave words and interpretation to the power of the song. thank you, really. I will not again listen it as the same way i used to. Thank you!!! (sry for bad english)
I know others have mentioned it but your description is spot on about the music (also I didn’t realize there was a second voice). I’m subbing bc I’d like to see you cover more songs from Nier simply bc they’re good, emotional, and strong. I can’t describe it quite right but it’s like the music seems chosen from before the scene was built or they were made side by side, enhancing both to where yes you’re playing a game but the emotions are so strong and clear you can’t ignore them.
To me this song represents grief and hope at the same time. The gentle and loving will of lost people, those dear to you, pushing you to move forward in their absence and not to give up despite the immense sorrow.
Beautiful! Yes!
This song is one near and dear to me ever since I first heard it back in the original
Its beautiful ❤
Subbed. Absolutely love these types of videos, thanks for sharing man.
Great reaction :)
I think the Chaos Language sounds unnervingly like French in this song because of the way she pronounces her 'r's, but also a bunch of subtle details... The words here _could_ have been French, in another world: they use similar sounds, similarly constructed words, and the singer pronounces them as a French would, with the correct intonation and all.
I noticed all of this because I'm French myself, and... wow when I first heard this song it tripped me up. The words obviously made no sense but my brain was screaming at me "French!! I recognize French!"... Almost like the meaning of the song was _just_ around the corner, within grasping range, but that it kept eluding me.
It just brought Grandma to a whole new level for me, adding a fleeting feeling to this heartbreaking song about loss.
The overall style of both nier and nier automata, remind me of older anime, for example Noir. Beautiful, melancholic, almost downright sad yet also strangely soothing even romantic at times.
A huge part of what made these two games so successful and memorable was their emphasis on creating strong atmosphere, by combining visuals with 1st rate audio. Both these things combined push the story to it's limits.
A truely remarkable piece of art
I seem to remember Emi Evans saying that for the OG Nier, each song, while in a made up language, was meant to evoke certain feelings that are present in existing languages, so this one was very likely meant to emulate French without actually *being* French. In Automata, since it takes place SO far in the future, it was meant to be more of a blend of languages, what all of our modern languages would converge into by the year 11,945. English, French, Japanese, Latin, and Gaelic were the major linguistic influences for Chaos if I remember correctly, though I may be misremembering.
I'm enjoying these video game music reactions, had to subscribe.
This usually played during kainés backstory. Which isnt animated but you get blocks of texts at points of your second(?) Playthrough, and this plays at the appropriate parts of the text(you have to advance the text with button pushes)
The story is about her tragic background and how her grandma took her in protected and raised her, their life together, and her grandma's eventual death by a shade, and how she became part shade. Hence the second singer.
Ohhhhhhhhh thanks for sharing that’s interesting… maybe I heard it during play through 1 and can’t remember
@@MarcoMeatball Well i think it doesnt play at all in route A, but i might be wrong. You need to play through the second half of the game like 4 times to get all the content now? And context. As much as i like Nier games the multiple playthroughs stuff overstays its welcome a bit. Its actually kinda genious how it transforms and expands the same story for you but its repetetive at the same time.
Nah man this video is peak quality, just by hearing it once you managed to sirurgicaly discover one of the character lore and evolution, i personally think this is the best music in the game and you described perfectly everithing i feel when i hear it and if the soundtrack wasn't enough to convince you to play the game i don't know what could.
if you want to feel it full i recomend you to play all the series games(drakengard 1 and 3, nier and nier automata) to fully understand the lore and carry it's baggage through your life
Please do "Cold Steel Coffin" next!
I plan on doing it probably next week :)
Thank you for your analysis!!!
I can't wait you to react to "song of the ancients / fate", please! This is literally NIER's main theme
Mhm song of ancients is on my list for sure
I never play nier series but listening this Grandma with its predecessor grandma Destruction. I can feel an Emotion that start from a sadness then it builds up into Anger and those Anger turn the person into Madness
I've listened to this song plenty of times, but I never noticed the second vocalist until you pointed it out. I think what's interesting about it is that you really can't hear her most of the time. Instead, you can only hear her during the brief moments where the two singers aren't quite perfectly in time with eachother. Cool stuff.
as a french speaker i can feel hints of french but never actual french, but it still speaks directly to the soul surpassing language boundaries
Omg you have no idea how on point you are to point out a shadow
The struggle and the sacrifice represent Kaine's "grandma" the old woman just lost her life but before that she was able to talk whit Kaine, so the second voice is some kind of response to what the grandma tells to Kaine, this song represent a really sad moment before Kaine takes resolution so we can say you got most parts of what this song tries to tell, is a great musical piece
Great analysis yet again!
There's another comment about it, but I'd love to see Cold Steel Coffin as well-- one of the most terrifyingly haunting songs ever written imo
Def added to the list :)
I really like your analysis, your feeling, the way you describes it. So, eventually, pls react to Empty Tone.
Sure! I’ll add it to the pile
The way you dissect these musical piece’s is amazing! I check your channel almost daily for what’s next.PLEASE do Gods Bound By Rules from Nier Gestalt!🤞🏾🤞🏾
I love that piece. All of nier gestalt will eventually be done :)
@@MarcoMeatball LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!
My favorite track! Listen to it everyday
You have no idea how hauntingly spot on you are with your analysis of the shadow/ second voice.
You couldn't be more spot on
You must play nier replicant asap
Redownloaded! Also thank you :)
french viewer and nier fan here 0/ good occasion to say thank you for your analysis of nier and ff song
the nier game theme is about shadows, so it makes sense with the voice line even more :)
As a french person, this song feels familiar and strange at the same time.
It is a really strange feeling but I loved it, and now it is one of my favorite song.
I loved your analysis and now I'm looking forward to the next one.
❤️❤️❤️❤️
very few times there are songs that perfectly protray scenes in games, but everytime i hear this it always shows me kaine's grandma in the shack and kaine losing her.
If i remember correctly the chaos language was created using some french words and other languages as well.
Emi Evans, and the possible others, who worked on the Chaos language did such a good job developing it for the game. I believe it's a mix of German, Hungarian, Welsh, Japanese, French, and Latin. Emi also added in extra sounds she came up with to mix it all together. I think she did also say in a blog post about it, that Grandma was intentionally more French-like in language as directed by Okabe.
Самые настоящие эмоции, искренние...
I haven't REALLY listened to this song since I remixed it for a final project in college. I forgot what a fucking tearjerker it was lol
A lot of the chaos language used in nier music has a “tinge”( is that the word?) of french or a romantic language touch to it. Nier is a always a masterpiece. Thanks for the amazing analysis.
Last year when the newer version of the game came out, i was listening to the original OST so much, then i realised, that this Grandma is the same as the Grandma in NieR: Automata. Except this one is sadder and the other one is badass 🤣 i think you will love these little things, if you are doing all NieR music.
This is the reason i would like to learn to play on the piano, just this track. That would be such an achievement for me.
I see no reason for you not to learn it! And yes you’re right about loving these little details!
A LOT of the music in Automata is either homage or new versions of Gestalt/Replicant music! Grandma, The Dark Colossus (which is 'Kaiju' now), Emil: Sacrifice has THREE new versions in Automata, Wretched Weaponry is clearly the next part of Wretched Automatons, etc etc...
I remember when the Nier soundtrack first came out; it was definitely unlike anything I had heard previously. Nier is set in the future, and the sound team instructed Evans to image how French would sound thousands of years in the future.
Without knowing the character you managed to describe Kainè
This scenes with this plays are called The Divine Tree of Memory and Kainè’s Dreams. There’s no gameplay or vocals just reading. I highly recommend watching those not as a reaction just for yourself. Tragic but beautiful
I am very happy that I learnt about the French Chansons today
This comment is really sweet
Please don't apologise for being "Preachy". I love the insight it brings and I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
You've really fell in the nier music rabbit hole. It's not hard to do because the music is all beautiful
Everything you felt from the song, despite not knowing the context of Nier: Gestalt, was so powerful and surprisingly spot on!
SInce I played this first Nier game extensively, I zero in on the march of the snare drum coming in. It feels like perfect expression of the character Kaine's dogged determination in the face of so much sorrow and loss.
There's a lot to love in this song.
Ooooo I had one okay through of replicant so I have to finish the other stuff. Didn’t realize that there was a whole actual context here that I sort of got right haha
Honestly, I think all the music from NieR and Drakengard can invoke a lot of different feelings and add to what is happening in the game/s. a number of songs can make you feel joy, sadness and determination or even loss.
And speaking of, I forgot to mention songs for Xenoblade Chronicles in my last comment so I will here: "Main Theme" "Prologue A" "Prologue B" "Colony 9" Colony 9 (Night)" "Regret" "Face" "Unfinished Business" "Valak Mountain" "Valak Mountain (Night)" "Towering Shadow" "Shulk and Fiora" "Ancient Mysteries" "Tragic Decision" "God-Slaying Sword" "Once We Part Ways" and "Ending Theme - Beyond the Sky"
I've played the original game for the Wii (and replayed it again and again) and am now playing the Definitive Edition on the Switch, in which the music was composed by four different people for the game, which says a lot. Also if you do check out the music and you listen to the area/town themes listen to the day and night versions back to back, as it adds more to the places in question and makes it feel more alive. Not to mention the story and characters are great. and one song I mentioned Unfinished Business is played for one small scene and you never hear it again, but it gives so much, so if you do decide to listen go for it and the main theme first. 😊
It sounds like french possibly due to the "R" pronunciation, we roll our R's with our throats. And this piece has plenty of R within it
Absolutely it does! But some of the vowels and the way the language rolls also has some similarities. It just sounds so different from say a beautiful song which has hints of italian and city ruin which sounds English!
At the moment of playing Nier Replicant 1.22, I heared this during the first fight you normally encounter this song, and was stunned by how absolutely haunting yet beautiful it sounded. My take away from this track specifically is the emotional torment Kaine felt when losing the only parental figure in her life to some monster. And how that monster mocks her grandmother throughout the fight just adds so much more to the piece. Just like Emil-Despair, so much emphasis on the characters emotions throughout the track, its amazing.
Also I'd like to ad the moment the drums kick in, I take it as kaine reaffirming her resolve and finally fighting back for herself and the ones she cares for.
I'm about halfway through the new replicant version, I think I remember distinctly hearing this track used when a shade tries manipulating kainé, it only lasts about a minute there and it feels through this song there's a lot of pain there, from what little kainé actually says about her vengeance.
there's also a more dramatic, bombastic version that to me is a little like A Beautiful Song from the opera singer in Automata, though it makes sense that Automata's music is much more closely tied to that boss, you don't really hear it outside of another epic moment near the end of route C from what I remember
the more bombastic version of Grandma though is called Grandma/Reunion from what I can find, at about the true halfway point, you get a very gamified mission to look for ciphers to continue and choose where to look first. one choice in replicant now has you choose a mission that was originally a novella where you explore a shipwreck, you find a boss, the last boss I've fought so far which I can find is named Louise
two things that stand out to me about Louise is that the real fight with her shows her to be twice the size of another boss that was as tall as the library, and the other of course is Grandma/Reunion blasting throughout the fight. what I want to know is does anyone else hear "Louise" somewhere in Grandma's more vocal verse or is it just me associating it with the new boss?
i know i'm super late to this, and i'm not sure if this interview was out at the time, but the reason this song sounds french is because, as the singer revealed in an interview, each song was based on a language that she believed would fit the music. in this case, it was actually french that was chosen! so good ear :)
The music in the Nier series always makes me cry, it reminds me of how tragic the story is and the composition is incredible. Keiichi Okabe is the best
french speaker here, when i heard the song for the first time it threw me off so bad because i could detect the french, but when i tried making out words i couldn't
'... all in one'. That's kind of what the games are like too.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned yet but this song was originally going to be the opening and main theme of the game rather than snow in summer. Which is very interesting after reaching and finishing ending e.
Please also listen to the song (fleeting words) from NieR Replicant ! That was amazing!
Ya!
I lost my gramma recently. Been working through it for two months. It hurts a lot.
The game brought me to tears a few times. If the music resonates with you I would heavily recommend both Nier games.
0:56 "Things don't need huge or bombastic or full of huge orchestra to hit us where it counts"
Quite Ironic considering the existance of Grandma - Destruction in NieR:Automata... Though I feel like the effectiveness of that track is mainly felt if you know and recognize the original Grandma song.
Absolutely and even though it shares the melody the intention is vastly different
How are you so accurately describing plot themes without playing the game just from this piece?
Are these feelings so clearly encoded into the arrangement? It's uncanny haha
I’ve played one play through but don’t recall when this song occurred or why for the record
@@MarcoMeatball Ah, makes sense. It's still believable that it communicates those feelings through the music though, just likely not at that resolution lol
It would be great if you could take a listen to Gwyn's theme from the first Dark Souls.
Do you think you'll talk about Grandma - Destruction in the future? I'd be very interested to hear your take on it, as you never fail to understand the meaning behind everything you listen to
For the French vibe I think it's because of some sound, like the "u" is pronounce french way and not "ou", same for the "r". I'm French and some word sound like some French word but it's not ^^
Excellent video by the way! :3
please make a react on Kaine's song from Nier Gestalt
That’s the one that started it this RUclips channel. Seek and ye shall find
As a French yes the first time I heard it I was searching what were the lyrics cause it didn't meant anything but some words seemed to be "carré", "sauve-la", "flâner", "nez" "roux"... ( Also it's chANson not "chAs(s)on" ^^ in phonetic it's pronounced {ʃãsɔ̃} )
Love your videos ^^
Next: Grandma - Destruction, and Grandma - Reunion
Ill hold off or listen to them in a live :)
The tower next, best automata song imo
immaculate
The reason this song sounds like it's French is because it is based on French. The song 'Song of the Ancients' is the only song on the Nier OST where the language is completely made up. When Emi Evans (the vocalist and lyricist) was worried that all the songs may end up sounding the same, the composer, Keichii Okabe suggested that she use already existing languages and make them her own for the other songs, thus creating chaos language. Your analysis of this is great though! I love how you picked all that up without even playing the game ... I highly recommend the game, it is one of my faves! (The soundtrack was how I discovered it in the first place! 🥰)
Ah, my beloved cry cry sob sob song
This ol’ thing? 🤣🤣
@@MarcoMeatball ye 😭
Damn Bro you look sad listening to this, This was already sad but seeing your sadness adds more sadness
I love Nier's music and although I've only played Automata, both it and Replicant remain to be one of my favorite soundtracks in all of gaming. Watching people like yourself give their thoughts on them makes me appreciate them more.
If I may recommend a series of games to listen to, you should check out Ace Combat. In specific you should listen to "Zero" from Ace Combat Zero. Great track that really enhances the fight it plays to.
That’s a generous compliment and I appreciate it. Glad you appreciate it more!!! Yes zero is definitely on my list.
almost every song was based on a different real world language when written. So this song could have be written after analyzing French speech sounds.
As a French speaker I do hear French time by time listening to it
Moi aussi
you should look at the songs from Yoko Taro's most recent project: Voice of cards
You should watch the walkthroughs so you can gain some context.
I watched the original nier on RUclips (around 4 years ago) in the background when working on some jewellery.
The story was amazing and the soundtrack was to.
Just downloaded it so I can finish the play throughs
@@MarcoMeatball you're going to love it.
Please don't watch the final (new) ending until you watch nier automata.
If you want to be spiritually moved at least lol
I'm French and after listening to this song, I must say that I perfectly see what you mean when you say it sounds a lot like French. I guess we could say that the French language usually sounds calmer and quiet compared to most languages. Maybe that's why many love it for how different it sounds, I don't know. That might be due to the fact that stressed letters and syllables don't exist in French, making it more flat and monotonous. I always found that French was a language more suitable for calm, sad and slow songs with long lasting words and that it's where it shines. Fast and energetic lyrics are generally hard to write in French in comparison because of this lack of stressed syllables which makes it naturally less tuneful I think. So you only rely on the way you choose to sing the word and you often need to use some tricks to match the rhythm because French words are generally long to pronounce. That's why I think that French is a language primerarly thought for writing, which could also explain why people generally find that it puts emphasis on deep feelings, romantism and so on because it developed more this way, using multiple words to precise your thoughts. Whereas I find that English is a more catchy language for exemple with quick words, quick sentences which is totally appropriate for fast rhythms and talking in general.
*PS:* I think a simple parallele can be made to illustrate what I mean with the way you pronounce the French word "chanson" for exemple. A natural tendency of many languages can be to accentuate a syllable of the word, which is the sound "on" here. With a perfect (most typical) French accent, the "on" at the end would be more quiet with the same duration and volume for each part of the word (I precise most typical because various other French accents obviously exist depending of the department but it's the most neutral here). It's pronounced a bit too tuneful here ah ah ! It's still good though.
I think you nailed it that’s for sure :)
@@MarcoMeatball If I may add my own suggestions to your fantastic music reactions, I would suggest you "A Tragic Decision", "Zanza the divine" from Xenoblade Chronicles (Definitive Edition) and "The Power of Jin", "The Decision" and "After Despair and Hope" from Xenoblade Chronicles 2. The series from Tetsuya Takahashi who formerly worked at Square Enix is known for it's very good music and story. But I think these pieces in particular will fit the kind of music you react to more. Also the episode 3 will come soon this september so it's potentially very good for future RUclips content ;D.
As a french i can tell it's strange, the sonority of words and sentences are very familiar but i can't understand anything ^^ (especially on this one and "Song of the Ancients")
I’m french and I hear french 🫠
its interesting on how (I would call it epic gibberish) this kinds of song by Japanese composers will mix Japanese language with French for the most part
I would recommend listen to songs from Ar Tonelico (the one that called hymnos), you can find it on youtube with subtitles
other than that, I recommend listen to songs arranged by Morrigan & Lily ( lily also known as Yuri Nazuka)
some other creative means of the language is the opening of tales of innocence which the start of the song is basically just backwards japanese
I would also like to suggest listening to the song that plays at the very end during the credits of Dark Souls 1.
Nameless Song
It sounds when your journey is over,
and this is the most accurate and short description of the context that I can come up with.
Sounds great I’ll definitely add it to the list!
honestly I thought it was french before knowing ti is an invented language