Hard growing Copiapoa in Oceanside California

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
  • One of my favorite genera of cacti is Copiapoa and todays guest is Ben Grillo who has been growing and collecting Copiapoa for the past decade in oceanside California where he has a certain approach that tends to mimic the habitat look of these plants, albeit not perfectly but damn close in my opinion. He tour his shade house and dive into his care routine, soil mix and history as a collector.
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  • @bunymustard2584
    @bunymustard2584 12 дней назад +1

    760 O'side for life 👌🏾🍻🌵💀😎
    But seriously the "coastal eddy" in oceanside is the key to growing any cactus beautifully

  • @SimaShangde
    @SimaShangde Год назад +9

    This is one of the best collections that you've shown on the channel so far. Shout-outs to every grower who approach to make their plants look as natural as possible.
    Highly weathered granite and other rocks with similar mineralogical composition are often seen in cacti locations in Chile, therefore decomposed granite and pumice are logical choice as a soil base for Copiapoa. I would not sift out fine fractions though. Local soil and bag potting mix contain and store most of the nutrients and provide it to plants.
    Speaking of "The Stone Eaters" article, once I was hyped for it and it was my inspirations for further research. But since I started doing my own research, I've realized that the authors used to have barely any knowledge on soils, soil science or petrology. The positive impact that they've made was a contribution to make people start experimenting with different ingredients and more mineral soil mixes, but that's all. Their first attempt on this topic in the article called "The Soil Hexalogue" was a completely mambo jambo. "The Stone Eaters" is more comprehensive and did somewhat better job, but still far from understanding this complex topic.
    The authors didn't even know that most of the ingredients they recommend barely react in soil or do not react at all, simply because particles they recommend (mostly gravel fractions) are too big and the mineral bonds too strong to release significant amount of nutrients, that would be able to impact overall chemical composition of the substrate.
    And I'm not telling this to be mean or whatever, as I said, the article used to be my inspiration at some point, but the more knowledge I get on this topic, the more I see that it has barely touched the surface. It's better to follow the article rather than most of random gardening advises, but it's still so much to be done in the topic.

  • @elsbee38
    @elsbee38 10 месяцев назад +2

    Stunning plants!! Another fantastic tour ❤

  • @billgolightly7203
    @billgolightly7203 Год назад +4

    Good exchange of thoughts. Nice set-up. Thanks for your time.

  • @sandragoerlich7134
    @sandragoerlich7134 Год назад +2

    Beautiful copiapoas, he certainly got the soil mix perfect, thanks for sharing Hunter!

  • @greatnorthernexotic
    @greatnorthernexotic Год назад +3

    Hell yeah, been looking forward to this one!

  • @HyrimBot
    @HyrimBot Год назад +5

    thanks for the Stone Eaters link. would be interesting to custom tailor soil for different species of cacti to more closely mimic natural habitats.

  • @theplantprinceph
    @theplantprinceph Год назад +2

    Beautiful collection. I've been wanting to own a Copiapoa, but they are expensive here, and there aren't many nurseries growing and selling them.

  • @cactusjoe
    @cactusjoe Год назад +1

    Great video, fantastic collection, thanks for sharing!

  • @msjudypatootie
    @msjudypatootie Год назад +1

    Awesomeness‼️ Been waiting to see My bro Ben’s video !! 🙌🏼🔥👏🏼😮‍💨

  • @Northerncacti2021
    @Northerncacti2021 Год назад +1

    What an awesome video!
    It’s been a while bro.
    You got me deep into this hobby, don’t leave me hanging BRRROOo

  • @chrismc1975
    @chrismc1975 Год назад

    Definitely goals right there!
    I’d love to have at least one in my collection ❤

  • @Matraka2000
    @Matraka2000 Год назад +1

    Súper good video. Very informative. Definitely going mineral is never a mistake a prevent any human error.

  • @mcactus6210
    @mcactus6210 Год назад +1

    Truly amazing content Hunter, thank you very much for sharing.
    His greenhouse is pretty similar to mine and here in Madrid, Spain I believe that I have more or less the same climate, probably even more harsh here. I have to completely opened my Greenhouse in summer and as we approach Autumn I tend to enclose the Greenhouse again (with automatic vents and fans) and my Turbis seem to love this kind of approach. I also keep my cacti without any watering in mid-summer (3 weeks more or less) with lots of air circulation and the lophs and turbis get really blue. However my soil mix for north-mexican cacti is much more calcareus without any DG and some limestone.
    My rule of thumb is just water if the cacti are really deflated and sad, then observe if after watering they get really plump, if not probably there are some problems with the roots or the soil mix. During hot days I mist some water to cool them down (here in Madrid we get up to 110F and nights with 85F).

  • @MyPlantWorld
    @MyPlantWorld Год назад

    beautiful cactus plants

  • @Cactuscarlo
    @Cactuscarlo Год назад

    Great informative video .Thank you for all the folden nuggets 👍

  • @Hardworkandrealestateprofits
    @Hardworkandrealestateprofits 8 месяцев назад

    Cool collection and I love this guys vibe. When he said the plants look pretty bitching I was cracking up 😂

  • @morningstar8187
    @morningstar8187 Год назад

    Beautiful plants.

  • @MichaelExplorer
    @MichaelExplorer Год назад +1

    Great video man! You should come to Peru!

  • @sandiegofirebird7782
    @sandiegofirebird7782 8 месяцев назад

    670👍 checking in. Just realized you came to my neighborhood. Hope you enjoyed Oceanside.

  • @25787fdshj
    @25787fdshj Год назад

    What an incredible man 🌱

  • @tblackwell4979
    @tblackwell4979 Год назад

    Thats a rad collection of poas

  • @davidbianco6234
    @davidbianco6234 Год назад

    MUY BUENO !
    MUCHAS GRACIAS !!!😊😊😊

  • @x3thelast
    @x3thelast Год назад +1

    I always thought the marine layer that slams O SIDE and Point Loma would be perfect growing conditions for Copiapoas.
    Mine are turning a little red/purple from being blasted with LEDs indoors and pampered. 😂

  • @allancurtis3342
    @allancurtis3342 Год назад

    WaW just awesome 🌵🌵🌵...

  • @dash12cam
    @dash12cam 4 месяца назад +1

    Does the John and Bobs provide a fertilizer boost of some kind, this addition is confusing me

  • @kkookkk123
    @kkookkk123 Год назад

    Just great information here. Hey, can you do an episode on Lophophora? Shout out from Taiwan~~~~~~

  • @hesherette
    @hesherette Год назад +1

    this is so awesome! his cacti are incredible. im a cacti fan growing not too far from him, so i got some very invaluable information from this video!

  • @anitahead7366
    @anitahead7366 Год назад

    Awesome

  • @PurpleT999
    @PurpleT999 Год назад

    Awesome 😮

  • @cookiescacti
    @cookiescacti Год назад +3

    This is a great video! Can you elaborate on why we should avoid decomposed granite from Home Depot? Is it because it's less cost effective than buying DG from a rock or landscape company? All I've been using is Home Depot DG because it's so easy to access 😬

    • @bobs5596
      @bobs5596 Год назад

      maybe because it is stabilized? he didn't elaborate, but made a point of avoiding ''stabilized'' dg

    • @cookiescacti
      @cookiescacti Год назад +3

      @@bobs5596 that was my first thought too but I looked up the Vigoro brand DG and the Q&A section on the Home Depot site says there's no stabilizer in the DG. I always wash the dust off the DG before using it and I've never had any experience with caking, it remains loose rock no matter how many times I water it.

    • @bobs5596
      @bobs5596 Год назад +2

      @@cookiescacti oh, hey cookie, didn't realize i was speaking to you. yeah, i'll have to go see it for myself, it might make good aquarium gravel. another good product they have is red scoria, they call it ''flower rock'' i think. also for gas bbq grills. it has to be reduced in size, but its a good soil component. i saw one vid where they used it straight for everything, even the pathways in the nursery.

    • @benjamingrillo3423
      @benjamingrillo3423 Год назад +2

      Home Depot DG (in my experience) has always carried very poor quality DG. Most of the bag is very fine and you have to sift most of it out. The stuff from landscape/rock suppliers have the nicer quality, and grittier stuff.

    • @cookiescacti
      @cookiescacti Год назад +2

      @@benjamingrillo3423 Thank you for the clarification! And it makes sense - I always have to sift the bagged stuff from Home Depot and there's a lot of very fine particles in it. Appreciate the response and your plants are absolutely gorgeous!

  • @shahriarrahman-xv1xj
    @shahriarrahman-xv1xj Год назад

    u should upload videos every week
    🇧🇩❤️

  • @ronhobbs8038
    @ronhobbs8038 Год назад +1

    So I have a couple that I bought locally in the midwest, weren't pricey at all, now wondering if those were poached from somewhere of natural habitat or seed grown locally, how do you know if the one you buy is legit? Sorry if this sounds confusing, I know what I'm trying to say but don't also lol!

  • @juliocampos6607
    @juliocampos6607 Год назад

    I have copiapoas sitting on full permatil.

  • @californiadreamin9212
    @californiadreamin9212 11 месяцев назад

    What are the big black trays that he is using to hold all his pots in?

  • @aue1214
    @aue1214 Год назад +4

    What is D&G?

    • @bobs5596
      @bobs5596 Год назад +5

      decomposed granite

  • @25787fdshj
    @25787fdshj 10 месяцев назад

    How does one order from Blando? The website asks for tax numbers…a bit confusing

  • @melp9884
    @melp9884 Год назад

    Another nice tour hunter

  • @claudekim7876
    @claudekim7876 Год назад +1

    so basically impossible in canada haha. amazing plants tho. also was wondering did he lose any?

    • @greatnorthernexotic
      @greatnorthernexotic Год назад +1

      What zone are you in? We can grow them in the UK!

    • @claudekim7876
      @claudekim7876 Год назад

      @@greatnorthernexotic yea u guys domt get cold as us so u might b able to get that look. Im in canada ontario

  • @thegoldenwave282
    @thegoldenwave282 7 месяцев назад

    6:20
    what is he saying?
    "4 parts of pmas"? permas? pomas?
    I want to know what product is he mixing with dg, vermiculite, akadama and dirt.

  • @slowboatstudio
    @slowboatstudio 9 месяцев назад +1

    Anyone know what the reddish little cactus is at 10:18? I’m talking about the one between two Copiapoa’s.

    • @jcs337111
      @jcs337111 5 месяцев назад

      It kinda looks like a Gymnocalycium Damsii to me but I could definitely be wrong

  • @bobs5596
    @bobs5596 Год назад

    why does he feel shade cloth necessary? is the Atacama cloudy?

    • @bobs5596
      @bobs5596 Год назад

      i found this about fog oases. looks like most plants grow in the oasis area near the coastline, so maybe not much sun? a very specialized habitat for sure.
      ''Is there fog in the Atacama Desert?
      Fog desert - Wikipedia
      The Atacama Desert, the driest desert in the world, features lomas, areas in which fog condenses against mountain slopes near the sea and creates "fog oases" with an abundant biodiversity of plant and animal species.''

  • @cactuscapacity
    @cactuscapacity Год назад +4

    I am interested in stopping the poaching, but I have no interest in trying to grow this one... They are beautiful, but you can't save them all!

    • @dash12cam
      @dash12cam 4 месяца назад

      The poached one will die most likely if they are transplanted…

  • @wesleylooper7726
    @wesleylooper7726 6 месяцев назад

    What is DG? I’m a noob

  • @flypaper789
    @flypaper789 Год назад

    First. Love your content! Copiapoa😁

  • @thecowman6807
    @thecowman6807 Год назад +2

    A lot of the xerophilia journal/stone eaters article contributors are involved in the poached cacti trade. One of them is responsible for the 2 biggest busts in Europe having trafficked more than a million EUR worth of poached cacti, while other contributors were his buyers. Copiapoa were the most trafficked.
    The soil info of stone eaters is also not very accurate.

    • @jamescarr2156
      @jamescarr2156 Год назад +1

      can you send article? link? im unaware of this. thank you

    • @mickoz9389
      @mickoz9389 Год назад

      ''The soil info of stone eaters is also not very accurate.''
      Yep. It is mostly speculative nonsense.

  • @michalkorecky9935
    @michalkorecky9935 8 месяцев назад

    Cacti and collections are perfect here.
    But you should manage the basic movements when filming with a camera,
    it's terrible - forward, backward, left and right, one could get dizzy...

  • @heatherrachel8418
    @heatherrachel8418 Год назад

    What's DG please?

  • @pamgrimm8850
    @pamgrimm8850 Год назад +1

    I am watching numerous videos on cactus soil preparation but I am having a hard time putting it all together. You quickly throw off names of ingredients that I don’t know. I looked for names or links in the comments but still not clear. Visited the page you suggest and it was daunting. Too much information. I search for a “recipe” I can follow!

  • @erikruggaard5790
    @erikruggaard5790 Год назад +2

    is it hard grown tho if its oceanside? lolol hard grown Is like az sun

    • @deapsprite1281
      @deapsprite1281 11 месяцев назад

      The atacama is fed by a thick fog, my guess is that has something to do with it

  • @jeffnelson4489
    @jeffnelson4489 Год назад

    Too many little pots for me