Geophysicist and surfer here who lives at the beach on the northern Oregon coast. While this may have occurred _during_ a King Tide, it has nothing to do with it. This is properly called an _infragravity wave_ (see Wikipedia), also known as _surf beat._ They are almost always present, but unless the open ocean swell that day is large, we don't notice it. You can see the large surf in the background. Those distant waves, which likely have a period around 10-15 seconds, set up an additional dynamic along the coast -- a sloshing in and out -- that occurs between every 1-5 minutes. So when the water recedes, it can be for a fairly long time, which lulls people into thinking the "coast is clear". But then a few minutes later it sloshes back in and can be tremendously powerful and dangerous, and usually catch people off guard. No wonder infragravity waves are what everyone calls _sneaker waves._ So, you were right the first time!
1-5 minutes… are these waves the reason why some surface wave “sets” are stronger/ bigger than others? Or is “that was a weak set” just a colloquialism for not getting any waves by SoCal surfer types growing up?
@@k80_, infragravity waves are distinct. In contrast, ocean waves of different wavelengths - which travel at different speeds - self organizing into groups or sets. The group velocity of ocean waves is the speed at which the wave's envelope, or modulation, propagates through space. The modulated groups/sets can vary in size from set to set.
Yeah, I've had people tell me that. I've also had people tell me that it could have been a sneaker wave on top of the king tide because the tides weren't coming quite that far in every single time... I don't know, but either way I'm going to be more cautious when the tides are like that. It was enough water it could have knocked me on my butt and probably been bad.... so anyway thanks for the comment! Blessings.
Westport is a great place to see King Tides. However, you’ll want to watch out for Sneaker Waves and never turn your back to the Ocean unless you’re running for your life.
I passed by here on my way to shore Acres on January 10th, and there was pools of water all the way up the parking lots and almost to the campground. Huge logs were tossed over the beach and some trees were even fallen.
King tides come in just like any other tide -- gradually. King tides just come in a little faster and more persistently than normal tides. They do not come in all at once. Those waves were much bigger than previous waves. They were sneakers on a king tide.
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 the two are not mutually exclusive. the King Tide Produces the most dangerous sneakers because there is nowhere to run. so you are all good! signed Oregon Coast beach house guy!
@@TheMrgarrison1 Thank you for the clarification, as I said new costal dweller so still learning and the information is appreciated. (I will say regardless of what it was called, it taught me to be more careful! 😉)
Wow.... I was just on the Oregon coast and I visited afew inlets not even thinking about the possibility of this happening.... Great video thanks for posting... I will now be more aware of this happening 😉👍🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
Oh so you too saw it, it was crazy! I was back in the bushes and did not realize that the park rangers had come to clear the parking lot of cars. When I got back they were all cleared out...except for mine lol ..... my first year at the ocean from Montana so it was quite a learning experience!
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 those king tides were my first experience with king tides .. I was really worried about sneaker waves there so we only stayed a little while then went up to shore acres .. I am going to show your video to my hubby and kids 🙂
@@CreeksideviewsSmart to leave. As soon as I realized what was happening I too left, plus I was a little embarrassed that I had not been aware of the circumstances and had put myself in a little danger. I also hope my use of the word S**t does not offend any of you....I know at least one person got upset with my words while I was moving away from the rushing water...
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 Yea I made my family get back in our car and leave I got so nervous ... The S word did not offend me in the least I probably would of had much much more colorful words LOL
Yes, It is beautiful, I am so grateful to live so close! I went to Shore Archers on Sunday and shot some video I am going to post soon! I have yet to go to Cannon Beach...soon1 Thank you and Blessings to you!
Oregonian here. Dat's a sneaker DURING a king tide. Worst kind, and the worst month, too: January. Highest king tides are always in January. Rule #1: Never turn your back on the ocean. Rule #2: Never stand on sand during a king tide. Rule #3: Tide tables, people.
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 man, We spent so many days on that beach. I’ve never seen this happen. Definitely am not going to allow grandkids near the water. We used to wade way out there and there was never any more than knee high, gentle little waves!!! Wow. That is scary!! Thanks for posting this.
You are welcome It was definitely a wake up call for me as well 🙂 That said, I do not know if this would happen during low tide, I do not think so....but I recently moved from Montana so the beach and its moods are new to me. Blessings to you and yours
It was not too far back, behind me was an open pic-nick area, so I was fairly safe. That said, I am not sure my son was too happy with me for continuing to film....
Tides take hours - this a surge (most people mislabel them sneaker waves) - on days when the surf is large they arrive every few minutes - a group of larger swells pushes its way on shore.
It is. I was watching another video with a herd of elk running through the King Tide on the Oregon coast last night and realized my mistake in identification. I had asked the Park Ranger if this was Sneaker Waves- he said yes but... misunderstandings happen. Thanks for the correction. 🙂 I Haven't been here very long from Montana, so I'm still learning. Either way I realized I need to be much more careful, thanks again for the correction. Blessings ✌️
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 Saw that vlog as well. Amazing how they knew just when to crosse the stretch of beach in between the surging waves! 😳Scary. As this one was BTW. Great recording but needed more regard for your own SAFETY! 😳🙃Mother Nature gave you a pass this time, Montana! 👍👏🏻🙏🏻
@@ladydi4runner I know animals are amazing! 🙂 Yes, I really did learn my lesson that day, in the future I will be aware. (I actually was a little embarrassed that I was caught off guard that day...🙂 Yep, the universe chose to give me a break ~ Blessings ✌️
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 High and low tides were exceptional that week. At the same time the stormy weather created, huge waves, some of the enormous "sneaker waves. These huge waves, lifted by very high tides pushed the ocean extra far ashore. What your video shows looks like just that. King Tide + Sneaker wave. Double trouble. Surfers on all Pacific Coasts were working it hard. Watch a Mavericks surfing vides and see surfers hope to catch sneaker waves. I think you saw both. A Sneaker lifted high by a king tide.
@@wavepainter Thanks for the additional info 👍 that's very interesting, and I appreciate it! Yeah, there were paddle boarders out there in the bay when I was recording that day so I figured they were having themselves a really good time! Thanks again for the info 🙂
I am, punishment is a way of life I think.....That said pretty sure I am NOT mortal. Just saying, as of late they finally admit that UFOs are real and there are aliens among us. I am pretty f****** sure I'm one of them 😉
Thanks for your advice. It was kind of unexpected situation though. I wasn't aware that the tide was going to come up that high so there won't be a next time. In reality it was kind of a dangerous situation to put myself in, but again thanks for your advice.
Geophysicist and surfer here who lives at the beach on the northern Oregon coast. While this may have occurred _during_ a King Tide, it has nothing to do with it. This is properly called an _infragravity wave_ (see Wikipedia), also known as _surf beat._ They are almost always present, but unless the open ocean swell that day is large, we don't notice it. You can see the large surf in the background. Those distant waves, which likely have a period around 10-15 seconds, set up an additional dynamic along the coast -- a sloshing in and out -- that occurs between every 1-5 minutes. So when the water recedes, it can be for a fairly long time, which lulls people into thinking the "coast is clear". But then a few minutes later it sloshes back in and can be tremendously powerful and dangerous, and usually catch people off guard. No wonder infragravity waves are what everyone calls _sneaker waves._ So, you were right the first time!
1-5 minutes… are these waves the reason why some surface wave “sets” are stronger/ bigger than others? Or is “that was a weak set” just a colloquialism for not getting any waves by SoCal surfer types growing up?
@@k80_, infragravity waves are distinct. In contrast, ocean waves of different wavelengths - which travel at different speeds - self organizing into groups or sets. The group velocity of ocean waves is the speed at which the wave's envelope, or modulation, propagates through space. The modulated groups/sets can vary in size from set to set.
As a rule, the tide does not come in this abruptly. I think this is an exceptional wave that presumably came ashore during a king tide.
Yeah, I've had people tell me that. I've also had people tell me that it could have been a sneaker wave on top of the king tide because the tides weren't coming quite that far in every single time... I don't know, but either way I'm going to be more cautious when the tides are like that. It was enough water it could have knocked me on my butt and probably been bad.... so anyway thanks for the comment! Blessings.
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 I agree, it may well be high tides, but those are waves!
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You bet and thank you! 🙂
Westport is a great place to see King Tides. However, you’ll want to watch out for Sneaker Waves and never turn your back to the Ocean unless you’re running for your life.
I passed by here on my way to shore Acres on January 10th, and there was pools of water all the way up the parking lots and almost to the campground. Huge logs were tossed over the beach and some trees were even fallen.
Yes the ocean is beautiful.....and dangerous 🙂
I have too gone by there again and I have seen what you are describing, crazy ~ Nature, respect.
Wow 👌 👏 😍! Wish I had been there. Love the ocean...Never turn your back on the ocean 💙 🎶.
That’s unbelievable when water comes in like that!! Real miniature tsunami 🌊
Thanks!!
It is when I went back I discovered that it I really moved a large log quite a ways.
Yes, it was crazy. In retrospect, I was not really paying the attention I should have been!
King tides come in just like any other tide -- gradually. King tides just come in a little faster and more persistently than normal tides. They do not come in all at once. Those waves were much bigger than previous waves. They were sneakers on a king tide.
Yup
Welcome to the coast! Inlets are really dangerous in high tides and sneaker waves, they fail to mention that on the warning signs.
Thank you and I learned and thankfully not the hard way!
Nothing says you can’t have a sneaker wave during a king tide.
True, someone mentioned this in an earlier post as well. Thanks ~ Blessings
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 the two are not mutually exclusive. the King Tide Produces the most dangerous sneakers because there is nowhere to run. so you are all good! signed Oregon Coast beach house guy!
@@TheMrgarrison1 Thank you for the clarification, as I said new costal dweller so still learning and the information is appreciated. (I will say regardless of what it was called, it taught me to be more careful! 😉)
Wow.... I was just on the Oregon coast and I visited afew inlets not even thinking about the possibility of this happening.... Great video thanks for posting... I will now be more aware of this happening 😉👍🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
You bet, I was unaware until I shot the video. A learning experience! 🙃
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 😉👍🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
What a cool spot...
Yes, It is one of my favorites : )
This is what I have always been told was what a sneaker wave looks like. Very beautiful, thank you for sharing! 🤗
That’s fast!
That looked like a sneaker wave to me ... we were there the 10th and 11th too .. :-)
Oh so you too saw it, it was crazy! I was back in the bushes and did not realize that the park rangers had come to clear the parking lot of cars. When I got back they were all cleared out...except for mine lol ..... my first year at the ocean from Montana so it was quite a learning experience!
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 those king tides were my first experience with king tides .. I was really worried about sneaker waves there so we only stayed a little while then went up to shore acres .. I am going to show your video to my hubby and kids 🙂
@@CreeksideviewsSmart to leave. As soon as I realized what was happening I too left, plus I was a little embarrassed that I had not been aware of the circumstances and had put myself in a little danger. I also hope my use of the word S**t does not offend any of you....I know at least one person got upset with my words while I was moving away from the rushing water...
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 Yea I made my family get back in our car and leave I got so nervous ... The S word did not offend me in the least I probably would of had much much more colorful words LOL
@@Creeksideviews Lol, thanks & thanks for the giggle 😁
What was that? It just wave? Sudden Tide? I have never seen this before.
One of the "perks" of living on top of a dying tectonic plate.
Oh snap...that that kind of takes the awe out of it a little bit doesn't it. 😒
Is that what causes the almost flat gradient of the beach? Compared to steeper beaches in other parts of the world.
@@fallinginthed33p I'm not really sure that's science and I'm an artist lol 🙂
When a Ming Tide is announced you should take all precautions to avoid them !
Nice spot there, think i will try that out next time I go. I was at Cannon Beach
We were also in cannon / manzanita beach this past weekend.. ..being from ny it was quite a sight to see
Yes, It is beautiful, I am so grateful to live so close! I went to Shore Archers on Sunday and shot some video I am going to post soon! I have yet to go to Cannon Beach...soon1 Thank you and Blessings to you!
Yes it's truly amazing! It just reminds me how truly blessed we are are to be alive and be able to witness this yeah 🌈🙂
@@marybradt805 A beautiful spot
Oregonian here. Dat's a sneaker DURING a king tide. Worst kind, and the worst month, too: January. Highest king tides are always in January.
Rule #1: Never turn your back on the ocean.
Rule #2: Never stand on sand during a king tide.
Rule #3: Tide tables, people.
Thank you for all of that information, I will always watch out... especially in January 🙂
You can always go in the ocean but you don't always go back out of the ocean.
Nice footage. Kind of scary but very cool.
Thank you! I think the scariest part was I was unaware. In the future I will go there knowing what I'm walking into. Again, thank you. ✌️🙂
That's Sunset Bay.
And that was a sneaker.
It is Sunset and I thought so too
i'd have pooped myself thinking tsunami if I hadn't known about the King Tide...
Yeah, I was shaken up for a bit 🙂
😂😂😂
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Where is this?
Sunset Beach Oregon 🙂
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 man, We spent so many days on that beach. I’ve never seen this happen. Definitely am not going to allow grandkids near the water. We used to wade way out there and there was never any more than knee high, gentle little waves!!! Wow. That is scary!! Thanks for posting this.
You are welcome It was definitely a wake up call for me as well 🙂 That said, I do not know if this would happen during low tide, I do not think so....but I recently moved from Montana so the beach and its moods are new to me. Blessings to you and yours
oregon coast is amazing, it has the med climate with coast and pine trees...
Yes, I am grateful to finally be living here ✌️🙂
I like the Oregon coast Jesse Livermore it truly is amazing especially Cannon Beach with Haystack Rock and the needles
The weather is not that great 😒.
I was wondering where the trail back was. If nothing else, that tree would have worked if the water wasn't more than a foot deep.
It was not too far back, behind me was an open pic-nick area, so I was fairly safe. That said, I am not sure my son was too happy with me for continuing to film....
Tides take hours - this a surge (most people mislabel them sneaker waves) - on days when the surf is large they arrive every few minutes - a group of larger swells pushes its way on shore.
Yeah, that was scary.
Cool .!!! but scary😊
Thank you, it was and it was! 😉
That is scary!
King waves in Oregon. Queen waves in the San Francisco Bay Area. Who knew the pacific coast is so diversified?
Thank you for sharing I love that!
WoW
رحمتك يا ارحم الراحمين يارااب
Sneaker waves are still possible during king tides. 🙂
Watch
There not sneakers there are rogue waves if you really think about it
My favorites they go along with my rogue Spirit LOL
You are still mistaken calling a spring tide “king”...
Figure it out, or stay at home and be frightened.
Or don't figure it out and don't stay home and be frightened 😉
I don t know what to say really
King tide.
It is. I was watching another video with a herd of elk running through the King Tide on the Oregon coast last night and
realized my mistake in identification. I had asked the Park Ranger if this was Sneaker Waves- he said yes but... misunderstandings happen. Thanks for the correction. 🙂 I Haven't been here very long from Montana, so I'm still learning. Either way I realized I need to be much more careful, thanks again for the correction. Blessings ✌️
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 Saw that vlog as well. Amazing how they knew just when to crosse the stretch of beach in between the surging waves! 😳Scary. As this one was BTW. Great recording but needed more regard for your own SAFETY! 😳🙃Mother Nature gave you a pass this time, Montana! 👍👏🏻🙏🏻
@@ladydi4runner I know animals are amazing! 🙂 Yes, I really did learn my lesson that day, in the future I will be aware. (I actually was a little embarrassed that I was caught off guard that day...🙂 Yep, the universe chose to give me a break ~ Blessings ✌️
@@shea-theriseofdaun2114 High and low tides were exceptional that week. At the same time the stormy weather created, huge waves, some of the enormous "sneaker waves. These huge waves, lifted by very high tides pushed the ocean extra far ashore. What your video shows looks like just that. King Tide + Sneaker wave. Double trouble. Surfers on all Pacific Coasts were working it hard. Watch a Mavericks surfing vides and see surfers hope to catch sneaker waves. I think you saw both. A Sneaker lifted high by a king tide.
@@wavepainter Thanks for the additional info 👍 that's very interesting, and I appreciate it! Yeah, there were paddle boarders out there in the bay when I was recording that day so I figured they were having themselves a really good time! Thanks again for the info 🙂
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Yes, and you must be punished for your mistake mortal
I am, punishment is a way of life I think.....That said pretty sure I am NOT mortal. Just saying, as of late they finally admit that UFOs are real and there are aliens among us. I am pretty f****** sure I'm one of them 😉
Why are you showing us the tree branches. Next time climb the tree so we can have a better VIEW
Thanks for your advice. It was kind of unexpected situation though. I wasn't aware that the tide was going to come up that high so there won't be a next time. In reality it was kind of a dangerous situation to put myself in, but again thanks for your advice.
Holy what???? Please! Not cool
I am truly sorry you are offended by the word, for me it's just another word. I mean listen to the politicians they're much worse.....lol.