Lee, I own a 2021 CRF450RWE also. My bike had the exact same issue. It is a bad injector. Honda received a bad batch of injectors. Honda is now well aware of this issue. They will pay for the part and labor at the dealer. Do NOT try to fix yourself or Honda will NOT pay for it!
@@leethomson921 hey was wondering what the last 4 of the vin on your bike is?? I have 0064 coming still not here. American Honda says 1 to 2 more months. I'm wondering because I'm trying to track the bad injector situation. Just wanted to know even if its a lower or higher number is fine. Is it the first 40 or 50??? Wondering if there not letting them out because of this. Been waiting since middle of December. This sucks so bad. My dealer said it would be in for sure by last week.
So my cousin got his today vin 0403 and he ordered his 3 weeks after I did. Obviously something is wrong. They always release them in numerical order. So confused
Lee, rode my 21 finally. The chassis suspension and braking set up is amazing. The engine on the other hand is a big pile of shit. The bog on the low end is so bad bad that it makes it hard to ride. It is so rich I fouled a plug while riding. For the first time ever I feel stupid for even buying a honda. Will not wheelie past third gear not enough power. Map 1 and 2 are extremely bad on the low end. I jumped on my buddies 05 crf450r and rode wheelies for days. I rode my old 2012 crf450r and did the same. Was your bike the same before the reflash?? So bummed.
my 22 250r just did the same thing, i unplugged the kill switch and it ran fine for about an hour. then i shut it off, and it just did not start after that. now i cant hear the fuel pump prime, so i guess it is the fuel pump. did you ever figure out what happend to yours?
After you swapped the injector it fired up? Im having the same no start on my '23, but ive checked everything i can possibly think of (intake, fuel, valve clearance/compression, spark output, timing) and ive killed three batteries and it still won't fire
@@jamesjackson1372 yes! It ended up being a worn spot in the cylinder just below midpoint, so the bike wouldn't build compression until halfway up the stroke. That's why I was getting a good reading but no start. I had to drain the fuel system after the new cylinder and piston but once I did she fired right up
My fuel guy recommended me to run a mix of 91-98 with a race fuel mixture. Said it’s better than vp cuz the lead in the fuel can gunk up your sensors. Won’t be 110 but I mix 105-107 and it runs great no issues with the lead
Lee, I have a question regarding your suspension. My understanding is these bikes already the suspension upgrade with the A-Kit which is a $2,400 suspension kit if you were to buy it. I use Factory Connection also. I'm curious what valving you had put in or why? The A-Kit is supposed to be the closest to the factory riders race suspension you can get. I was going to send mine out also until I found out about the A-Kit. Now I'm just trying to gather info and feedback. I'm a pretty solid B-rider and I will change the springs to match my weight for sure. Thanks for your thoughts, Terry
I know they changed some calving for me and and spring weights because I’m really light right now , but honestly I didn’t get a full list of what they done I just dropped it off and told them I need it to be 100% for my weight and I told them some handling problems I had with it and they just busted out the work for me , it’s all too if the line products in it just not 100% the specifics , I spoke to 4 or 5 different head guys at factory connections and honestly they helped me out so much with what I was feeling and all kinds man just give them a call and they can set you up with what you want to keep or swap and give you good information too on what each thing does
Anytime hopefully it kinda helped , I felt the stick stuff was good but the bike didn’t even know I was on it so it kinda bucked me around but other than that it was great , I can’t wait to try they new stuff , hopefully have a video on the new stuff next week once the bike will start again 😂
ttm3311 I assure you there is no A-Kit suspension in the works edition. All it has is the coatings. Get it revalved. I have the 21 works bike and the valving is horrible. I am sending mine out to JBI to get heavier springs and revalved. They will also hard anodize the axle lugs black.
No I just sent it straight to twisted because when I sent it Honda didn’t have the fix and didn’t know how long it would be but honestly I’m happy I sent mine because this bike is unreal
Mines was just a bad plug if I put a new one in it would start but I would have the same problem again cuz the mapping or injector makes it go bad I guess
@@leethomson921 that’s interesting we’ll see I hope I don’t have any more problems but the engineers got involved, from what the the manager told me Honda said it’s in process of becoming a recall...””so he says””
mine was the kill switch map button oddly if you press the kill button several times it fires up then dies replaced switch all was good this applies to all 18 to 22 machines
Map 2 but pretty sure it was on map 3 when it happened , I’ve rode it in all the maps and pretty sure this is first time I tried to start it in the 3rd map , but not 100% sure , the ecu is sent off to fix the mapping anyways ! 🙌🏼
@@leethomson921 I have mine in map 2 right now.. just under 2 hrs on it as well.. dreading having any issues or getting stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Did they say how much $ for the ecu fix?
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sick bike man. would you take a 2020 450rwe or a 2021 450rwe? thanks
Lee, I own a 2021 CRF450RWE also. My bike had the exact same issue. It is a bad injector. Honda received a bad batch of injectors. Honda is now well aware of this issue. They will pay for the part and labor at the dealer. Do NOT try to fix yourself or Honda will NOT pay for it!
Yeah I know thanks man !
@@leethomson921 hey was wondering what the last 4 of the vin on your bike is?? I have 0064 coming still not here. American Honda says 1 to 2 more months. I'm wondering because I'm trying to track the bad injector situation. Just wanted to know even if its a lower or higher number is fine. Is it the first 40 or 50??? Wondering if there not letting them out because of this. Been waiting since middle of December. This sucks so bad. My dealer said it would be in for sure by last week.
I heard the first 300 or something has it but I wouldn’t go off vin I’d just take it in
I’ll look tho
So my cousin got his today vin 0403 and he ordered his 3 weeks after I did. Obviously something is wrong. They always release them in numerical order. So confused
Lee, rode my 21 finally. The chassis suspension and braking set up is amazing. The engine on the other hand is a big pile of shit. The bog on the low end is so bad bad that it makes it hard to ride. It is so rich I fouled a plug while riding. For the first time ever I feel stupid for even buying a honda. Will not wheelie past third gear not enough power. Map 1 and 2 are extremely bad on the low end. I jumped on my buddies 05 crf450r and rode wheelies for days. I rode my old 2012 crf450r and did the same. Was your bike the same before the reflash?? So bummed.
Yeah mine was the same just get the reflash and it’s a complete different bike , Honda does it for free
Lee, It's NOT the ECU! My dealer changed out my ECU with another 2021 CRF450RWE and my ECU ran perfect in that bike. I promise you, it's the injector.
Yeah I know , the ecu has a bog in the low end so it’s getting that fixed also
my 22 250r just did the same thing, i unplugged the kill switch and it ran fine for about an hour. then i shut it off, and it just did not start after that. now i cant hear the fuel pump prime, so i guess it is the fuel pump. did you ever figure out what happend to yours?
The same thing happened to my CRF450 21. Took it to the dealer and it was ready within like an hour
Yeah if you watch my other videos I fixed it months ago lol
@@leethomson921 Oh I see, That's dope
thanks for the tip on the injector-will check to see if mine was updated.
Sorry to hear about this issue with your new bike. Was your ECU stock when this happened? I know you have since sent it out to Twisted.
Yeah ecu was stock before , a lot of people had the problem with the 450r and twisted fixed it so fingers crossed
After you swapped the injector it fired up? Im having the same no start on my '23, but ive checked everything i can possibly think of (intake, fuel, valve clearance/compression, spark output, timing) and ive killed three batteries and it still won't fire
You fixed the bike yet?
@@jamesjackson1372 yes! It ended up being a worn spot in the cylinder just below midpoint, so the bike wouldn't build compression until halfway up the stroke. That's why I was getting a good reading but no start. I had to drain the fuel system after the new cylinder and piston but once I did she fired right up
@@airborneindustries4987 so did you mess with the injector first? Or you just went in the engine
@@jamesjackson1372 I had already cleaned my fuel system and verified my injector spray, so the only thing left to do was tear it down
@@airborneindustries4987 thanks a lot I really do appreciate
Same as me 2022 450r exactly 💯 my battery is flat now don't know what to do.
Did you ever find out what the problem was? My 22 crf450r will crank over but won’t start I’m thinking about getting the valves adjusted
My fuel guy recommended me to run a mix of 91-98 with a race fuel mixture. Said it’s better than vp cuz the lead in the fuel can gunk up your sensors. Won’t be 110 but I mix 105-107 and it runs great no issues with the lead
The bike only has an hour on it , I doubt it’s the fuel but thanks if there injector doesn’t help I’ll let you know
Lee, I have a question regarding your suspension. My understanding is these bikes already the suspension upgrade with the A-Kit which is a $2,400 suspension kit if you were to buy it. I use Factory Connection also. I'm curious what valving you had put in or why? The A-Kit is supposed to be the closest to the factory riders race suspension you can get. I was going to send mine out also until I found out about the A-Kit. Now I'm just trying to gather info and feedback. I'm a pretty solid B-rider and I will change the springs to match my weight for sure. Thanks for your thoughts, Terry
I know they changed some calving for me and and spring weights because I’m really light right now , but honestly I didn’t get a full list of what they done I just dropped it off and told them I need it to be 100% for my weight and I told them some handling problems I had with it and they just busted out the work for me , it’s all too if the line products in it just not 100% the specifics , I spoke to 4 or 5 different head guys at factory connections and honestly they helped me out so much with what I was feeling and all kinds man just give them a call and they can set you up with what you want to keep or swap and give you good information too on what each thing does
@@leethomson921 Awesome, thanks Lee!
Anytime hopefully it kinda helped , I felt the stick stuff was good but the bike didn’t even know I was on it so it kinda bucked me around but other than that it was great , I can’t wait to try they new stuff , hopefully have a video on the new stuff next week once the bike will start again 😂
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ttm3311 I assure you there is no A-Kit suspension in the works edition. All it has is the coatings. Get it revalved. I have the 21 works bike and the valving is horrible. I am sending mine out to JBI to get heavier springs and revalved. They will also hard anodize the axle lugs black.
Hey Lee quick question. When u sent your ecu to twisted did u have did u have honda refresh it first??
No I just sent it straight to twisted because when I sent it Honda didn’t have the fix and didn’t know how long it would be but honestly I’m happy I sent mine because this bike is unreal
@@leethomson921 awesome. Thank you. I talked to twisted today and they were not sure if u had it done.
No worries man any question just shoot me a message
What’s your height/weight? I heard it’s common for people to go up a spring rate. Is that what you did?
I went down a lot lol I weigh 138 wit gear so on the super light side
I weight 190 I believe and I’m 6’1”. I’m getting the 2022 crf450rwe here in a couple months! I know they upgraded valving and the ecu but that’s it
Had the same problem been at the dealer 2 months Honda techs confirmed a bad stater... even since then I been riding as should!
I heard bad fuel injectors and mapping is caused the problem
Mines was just a bad plug if I put a new one in it would start but I would have the same problem again cuz the mapping or injector makes it go bad I guess
@@leethomson921 that’s interesting we’ll see I hope I don’t have any more problems but the engineers got involved, from what the the manager told me Honda said it’s in process of becoming a recall...””so he says””
mine was the kill switch map button oddly if you press the kill button several times it fires up then dies replaced switch all was good this applies to all 18 to 22 machines
makes sense to be an injector...but....did you try choking it? was it the injector or was it just out of gas?
Which map have you been using?
Map 2 but pretty sure it was on map 3 when it happened , I’ve rode it in all the maps and pretty sure this is first time I tried to start it in the 3rd map , but not 100% sure , the ecu is sent off to fix the mapping anyways ! 🙌🏼
@@leethomson921 I have mine in map 2 right now.. just under 2 hrs on it as well.. dreading having any issues or getting stuck out in the middle of nowhere. Did they say how much $ for the ecu fix?
$250 or Honda will have a recall on it soon hopefully I think
@@leethomson921 will be looking out for a vid when you get your ecu back!
What did you have factory connections do to your suspension?
Got it set up for my weight and revalve
Disconnect The kill switch . Can be water in the coupling
It’s a bad fuel injector already got it running again thank you though it’s cause bad mapping
Well did u ever get the bike running !!!!!
Yeah watch the other videos haha
Hi brother I have also problem in my bike Crf450r 2014 not start and spark plug smae on the video. I change plug tomorrow thanks for your video
First year model!
Your dealer needs to contact Honda. They will pay for it. The have discovered a bad batch of injectors.
I have a 21 rx and it’s not starting
It's the spark plug probably wet . Clean it and you're back and running 🚀.
It was a mapping problem not a plug problem
@@leethomson921 so who paid for it to get fix
Honda
2018 and it starts when i play with the kill switch
What kinda fuel you run.
93 pump , it’s not the gas it’s all been checked haha
They had a bad batch of injectors from Honda , Honda already will replace it
I put Mr12 straight in mine and got to gas station it did that
Bad injector. Super common problem with the 21 Honda CRF 450 R/WE. I have one on order.
Did you let Honda pay for it?
CRAZY BRAND NEW 13 THOUSAND DOLLAR PLUS BIKE AND HAVING ISSUES LIKE THAT.
It was just a bad batch of fuel injector , Honda will cover it for free
Just about to take my bike out to ride 30 mins ago and my bike won’t start either. Bullshit
Ecu reflash
It’s free too by the way just take it to your dealer
@@leethomson921 dropped my bike off this morning to get reflashed and new plug put in. Picking it up in the morning and can’t wait!
Best of luck mate !!
Electric starter
Man my 2020 did this with 2 hours on it
What was your problem?