I think Gregg is absolutely someone that you need to keep close to you and take every bit of his advice. I know there's some comedic value in this, but he's 100% bang on, and he's not a yes man for a bit of dosh. Keep him in your list of trustworthy people.
As a flight instructor, the flight instructor's reaction is totally justified. Aviation demands diligence in study, discipline, humility, and respect for the craft. Take what your CFI tells you to heart. As a viewer, I'm fuckin' pumped!! I seriously can't wait to see your progress through flying and going through everything from straight and level, ground ref maneuvers, stalls, cross country flights, and hopefully even your instrument rating! I'm an airline pilot, always wanted to do aerobatics, and I am incredibly jealous of your Extra and couple aerobatic flights so far haha But for real, take it slow, don't get ahead of yourself, and be humble. Lots of people get killed by hubris via aviation.
Greg is awesome, such a down to earth and wholesome guy, really represents people in the RC community in the real world in my experience. My BMFA instructor for fixed wing when I did my A certificate with a 6ft 30cc Yak54 was the same. ☺
Well, it was a pleasure to meet you, we will remember you as the madman who jumped from an RC to an acrobatic plane and from there to the sky (with San Pedro)
kev, your certainly a great inspiration to all who know you. This is why your lessons on how you have made a small fortune is a good idea for us to watch, learn, and follow. Many people see it on the end of most of your content... The thumbnail of the silver Lamborghini with you their saying we could also do it by watching and listening.. I just wanted to thank you sincerely for being you keV and makeing our dreams a hole lot closer than what we thought..👍
Kev, in aviation you absolutely cannot run before you can walk! Greg's reaction is completely understandable, some instructors would point blank refuse to teach you as the attitude would worry them. Please listen to the experts, no-one wants a Colin McRae scenario due to your over-enthusiasm. Take it steady and you'll get there.
yeah and who taught the wright brothers how to fly? did they have loads of hours fannying about in flight school did they? did they feck. I bet you work in health and safety or some nonsense. too many risk averse people in the UK now, were a laughing stock, it's not the attitude that got young men in the air after a couple of lessons with a spitfire during WW2 was it eh? Stop being soft for other people, be soft in your own world by all means, but just because you are scared, doesnt mean others are.
Kev, I've only been subbed for about 2 years, and your channel is what drove me to get back into RC, and get some hobby grade cars. I've loved the monster truck series as well, and now you've gone and got an airplane. Please, please, please, listen to all the advice from your instructor and don't fall victim to temptation to start going crazy with this plane any time soon. I was an instrument flight controls specialist in the Air Force, and I know how complex and dangerous planes can be, especially the high horsepower, high performance models. I really don't want to come on YT and see one of your friends making a video about your final flight in your newest toy. I wish you all the best, and safe aviation.
As someone with over a thousand hours just on high-performance tail-draggers, I can safely say that an Extra is probably the last aircraft I would purchase for your planned mission. Even forgetting the significant aerobatic capability and instability of the Extra, the weather over the Irish Sea is poor at the best of times, with either solid IFR or at best a very limited visible horizon to assist you. Sea crossings on even the nicest days have a nasty habit of the sea blending into the sky and you feeling like you are flying in a goldfish bowl unaware of which is up or down! You require an aircraft with IFR capabilities, preferably FIKI and a stable instrument platform - an autopilot would also be of great benefit!
Kevin, this advice is so true. Charter a flight across the Irish Sea in a PC-12 on a bad weather day and watch the conditions yourself if you don't believe @markjarrett6893
I agree with the instructor, the extra is fast, but there are other more comfortable fast aircraft out the. It's less about the extra being mental, more its just wasted money on a loud rattlebox when there are "cruisers" out there.
I think Kev just wants to depart an airfield like a bat out of hell and come in doing barrel rolls and inverted loops...! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He has a Lambo and built his own Monster Truck after all - for him, it's go big, or go home...
It's an extremely bad idea, this is going to end in a crash. His attitude just won't be right for flying let alone something like that. Something like an SR22 or Bonanza etc will be so much better
I am 100% behind you Kev as far as getting your pilots license Kev. But you really need to listen to everything your instructor tells you. Everything about aviation is about being 100% thorough. There are no short cuts and if something goes wrong the outcome can be pretty binary. I'd like to keep watching you for years yet, so do everything properly. As nice as your new plane is, it's fundamentally not the plane for a beginner, or even very good for doing distance. The plane you are learning on, and say something like the Cessna 172 are very stable planes and are much better for the first couple of years of flying. That kind of lack of control responsiveness and stability gives you time to figure out what is happening and get yourself out of bad situations. That aerobatic plane is the very opposite, and you need years of experience to fly it safely. Anyway, best of luck.
Plus it has no avionics, if you find yourself caught in the weather you're straight f-cked. Not really an appropriate plane for crossing water and flying long distance.
As someone who has flown both real airplanes and RC airplanes, its about 100x easier to take off and fly an actual airplane even for long distances. Now remembering what all the switches and knobs do and landing safe and smooth is the hard part. Im talking about single propeller planes tho, I know nothing about jets or multi props. But I took off and flew a cessna before I graduated high school. My first flight was over an hour. Ive never had a rc plane fly more than 3 mins without crashing. A stunt plane is a wild first choice but I can't knock it. Still light enough to glide pretty well incase of engine failure. Just focus more on learning than actually filming or cameras until you get comfortable. A tumble wumble hits alot different from hundreds and thousands of feet in the air.
Also just to be clear, as far as transportion a aerobatic plane is a terrible choice. Alot of fuel, more maintenance, no room for much luggage, all that plus what you mentioned. It's absolutely not practical and saving an hour on the commute isn't going to make up for it. But if half your reason is for pure fun and adrenaline then you made the right choice and it'll be easy to deal with the rest. Who cares, it's your money and life and it'll be fun to watch you join the aviation hobby. Plus it's not like you're in it... Oh wait 😂
If you've flown, you should know about lift....a low wing sport plane has minimal lift and relies on HP to keep it up. A high wing like a cessna doesn't require a lot of power to keep it flying. For eg: the stall speed of a cessna 172 is 40 knots, an EA-300 is 55 knots. (almost 50% faster). with a high wing aircraft, it basically WANTS to fly level since the weight is below the wing. A low wing aircraft all the weight is above the wing which makes it want to tip over, hence why you can do aerobatics with them.
10-15 years he says lol. You're crazy. You can fly it immediately, just respect the plane and your own skills. Treat it like a cessna 172 and gradually do more once comfortable
@@ViperVideo except that it's not a Cessna 172, a 172 is stable, hard to spin, easy to land and very forgiving, an aerobatic plane is unstable, easy to spin, hard to recover, and absolutely merciless to mistakes
I think he is making an entertainment video where he is putting-on like he is ignoring the safety. He doesn’t have a death wish so it’s a pretty safe bet he is going to go through all the training before he is up there doing stunts by himself. Just a hunch.
Like they say: "There Are Old Pilots, and There Are Bold Pilots, But There Are No Old, Bold Pilots" The sensible way would be to get his pilot license, then get a nice tricyle gear plane, rack up more hours and then think about the Extra
As much as we want to see more power and some crazy stuff playing around in an aircraft like an extra with zero experience could be fatal not only for you but others too. Keep gregg around he’s giving genuine advice and isn’t just a yes man that will potentially get you killed
18:50 Oh deer, what a takeoff... I think you would have got a lot more out of it had you bought a cruising airplane, like a Diamond or a Cessna. Your instructor said that the Extra is like an F1 car. It's not. It's worse. You can always stop and get out of an F1 car. You don't have that option with an Extra. Not to mention that it's a terrible cruiser. Uses up a ton of gas, doesn't carry very much, it's very uncomfortable, and you'll probably freeze in it. You need a Diamond Katana, mate.
I'm not an aviation expert by a long shot. BUT yes, there's a TON of fast comfortable and cool aircraft around. To me, this is like touring on a motocross bike. The SR22T or SR22 would have been a better choice me thinks.
@@muskokamike127 Tourning on a motorcross bike, been there done that ;) Did a 2 day 900km trip on my Yamaha WR450F road legal enduro dirtbike. It was not pleasant cruising for hours at 90km/h for 2 days.
@@a64738 When I was a teen I had a honda 125, used to go everywhere on that and while it's fine for puttering around the city, going to school etc, long trips? not so much. Even now, I have a vstar 1100 custom, I don't fit it right. (arms are too short) and I can at best go an hour before I need a break.
I know several people that died in airplane crashes. It happened more often than you think, one little mistake like forgetting something on the check list and it’s over. Sometimes there is paper thin room for error and sometimes even experienced pilots crash due to mistakes or freak accidents such as the seat rolling back on takeoff causing the yoke to be pulled back or spacial disorientation which is especially not uncommon over water even to experienced pilots. It even happens to fighter pilots in sophisticated aircraft. Case in point, there is a thousand ways to crash due to carelessness, weather, mechanical issues or other pilots not paying attention.
Awesome Extra. Here are two canopy-related pieces of advice: Make shure that nothing comes loose inside the cockpit when you fly. Close all zippers in your suit. If a camera or some other tool hits the inside of the canopy during sudden negative G's, the canopy could easily break. And then you are without a usable plane for months and it will probably put you back at least £ 20k as suggested in this video. And make shure the canopy latch is locked completely before starting the engine. Or if there is a chance a helicopter may hoover close to your plane.
IMHO the CAA or EASA should issue a restriction of at least a 1000 hrs airtime before being let loose in control of an Extra. I learnt in flying school to fly a Cessna 152, then after I obtained my PPL (JAA CAA) at 45 1/4hrs having passed all my written exams I flew a Cessna C172 Rheims. I then went onto to fly a PA28 Cherokee 180 which again handled totally different to a C172-180. I also flew a PA28 Warrior and a PA28 Archer 3 again different beasts, before flying a PA28 Turbo Arrow 3. That was enough for me at almost 500 hrs. My first ever flight was in a Beech Bonanza V tail as a kid, I’m now 70, this particular plane is now known as the widow maker. Kev, listen to your flight instructor and forget about the Extra. Before even thinking about flying from Isle of Man you need some ratings after you qualify with PPL like a night rating and instrument rating, IMC is the very least otherwise you’ll become a statistic. An Extra and your attitude in this RUclips is a recipe for disaster or a fool and his money. You just can’t qualify with a PPL then jump into an Extra and fly with low hours experience and fly you need ratings ad experience which you get gradually.
To quote one of the 21st centuries finest aviators "It'll be fine", "What could possibly go wrong?". When you said that you were gong to see your instructor I half expected (hoped) it would be Stemp lol. Kev is actually a very clever man, in his own way. He's not going to treat it like he wasn't in it. RCMann on the other hand... Hide the key's is all I'm saying Kev.
Greg tells the truth so much, listen to him closely. I've been flying passionately for 26 years and have met so many overconfident pilots who either lived to tell the tale or are just silent today. Aviation requires a healthy attitude towards yourself and your limits, otherwise you won't be able to enjoy it for a long time.
Absolutely love the way you're thinking! Cut down the travelling time- fly faster! If anyone can master an Extra, you can. But probably get a few years on something boring first.
I love the instructor in the yellow jacket. He’s so real about it and Kev just doesn’t care. 😂😂😂 you’re talking to a man that bough a Lambo and built his own Monster Truck… Kev goes big or goes home. But to go home now, he needs a plane. 😂😂😂
Goes home or dies… not the type of industry to go big if you don’t have the experience. This is not a toy like a lambo. I love kev but this is just a really bad decision. Even for cruising this is basically the worst plane possible. Way better of with just a Cessna or something like that
Get yourself your NPPL with Greg. Plenty of fast 600Kg composite microlights coming to the UK. That Extra will kill you. If you want something bigger progress to PPL and instrument ratings etc. But it's small steps - you can't rush experience.
You realise there are companies that specialise in flying passengers to where they want to go, they are called airlines, just rock up to Ronaldsway Airport, and I'm sure you'll find someone to take you where you want to go.
Safety first man. Flying an old piper ive had throttle cut inflight, unretractable flaps, open door in flight, air traffic incident, electronics out, and probably more i haven't realized. All within 2 years of flight school. Flying an extra that fast is a recipe for disaster. Im sure this was for laughs
@@jcthe2nd that's fine if you're not going to risk others. With aircraft, when it goes wrong the plane is coming down to the ground. Because of that you are exposing uninvolved parties to that risk. So I'll keep my passengers and crew in bubble wrap and keep 'what-if-ing'...
To quote my old flight instructor when almost this exact scenario happened at my local airport (some rich guy bought a Pitts special after getting his license, after being repeatedly told not to). "The thing that boils my piss most, is that when he kills himself we'll be made to feel sorry for him". That guy ended up taxxing into a forklift and wrote off the prop + engine. Thankfully he wasn't hurt, but I've not seen him or the aircraft since.
Greg's reaction was absolutely priceless! When he discovered what you had bought, you couldnt wipe the smile off my face if you kicked me in the nuts. Hope he gets a lot more camera time! Mark is a legend, even here in the states if you follow aviation. Glad you got the Extra, makes perfect sense for travel. Fits all your luggage, easy to fly, haul youself and all your friends around confortably, economical to fly and maintain, perfect sense 😂. My pops had an rv-6 and it was a rocket of a prop plane, slightly similar in design to the extra, kinda. Eagerly awaiting this series!
Absolutely epic! This is not going to be fun flying over the seas in bad... well any weather really mate. In fact I don't even think its IFR rated😅. Hell of a plane but wtf lol
That techno babble waffle is what is going to preserve your life. A casual attitude to even the smallest detail can do you in. Risks don’t add they multiply when flying and the pressure to make RUclips videos and/or to save time make it extra risky. Will you still fly if the weathers a bit dodgy and you have a deadline? Take care mate.
Love the excitement and enthusiasm, and I think the training will set more realistic expectations as you go, learning to fly a plane is a very humbling experience!
That was super cool. All the best Kev. What a sound thing makes on a fly-by from ground level. Proper bit of kit. The scene with the instructor after buying it was hilarious. I can't wait to see the antics you get up to on this journey!
Depending on how much this is just an act for RUclips, it wasn't super cool it was super worrying. He doesn't seem to understand the foundations that flight safety is built on, and nor do a concerning number of commenters (though some are all too painfully aware). Even if he has a different attitude buried inside his head somewhere, why show this side to the world to potentially lead others astray? Signs of a very inappropriate attitude.
You do you man, but personally I'd recommend something like a Cessna 206 or a Beech bonanza g36, plenty fast, and safer than jumping straight into an extra. Stay safe man 🤙
Everyone speaking with the exception of Kevin is correct. Having been a part of the aviation community for years as a certificated pilot I can sadly say we've all known and seen these type of want-to-be-pilots come and tragically go, leaving the rest of us broken-hearted with the clouds of NTSB investigations hanging over our heads and rulings made in response to the untrained and foolish actions of those who won't listen. My 5 year old loves Kevin, as do many many others and even he asked why is he not listening to the others so he doesn't get killed. We will pray for him to come to his senses and stick with flight training and flying in a sensible and docile aircraft. The only "to-the-moon" and "more power" we want to see are more RC cars not his one and done imitation of a lawn-dart. Wake up Kevin.
@@VinnyschannelEntertainment is not key, safety is key, entertainment is a LONG way down the list. He’s right. I’ve had the pleasure of flying vintage fast jets and aerobatic aircraft, and currently own a very high performance complex aeroplane. But i started on a little trainer which is exactly what Kevin needs to do. I imagine he’s putting this on for the camera but the amount of mistakes he’s made in this video alone is concerning, like flying an Ikarus C42 to learn on despite that not even being the same licence as the one he wants!
Here's a thing. He's got a lot of qualified folks like yourself quite concerned. He might have painted himself into a bit of a corner here. He either; 1. Knuckles down, stops fannying about and playing the clown. But this might lose him RUclips followers. 2. Keeps going like this, and posting clips of his various hilarious calamities...putting him right in the sights of the CAA, or whoever regulates private flight. You might be able to answer this question. Can a license be revoked if people are seen to be messing about in the skies? Even if they are 'pretending' to have mishaps? I'm thinking that if he's ever up there flying, surely 100% of his concentration should be on flying...not what will make good viewing.
Buy a high-wing aircraft and after a few years of experience you can sell it off and go to a low-wing model. There is no reset button if you get into a unrecoverable stall.
i love to see you following your dreams, be careful, and take the advice from these people your learning from with great value, as we dont was to lose you kev!
Learning to fly is pretty easy. It usually doesn’t take more than 4-6 hours to reach a level of competence that will allow you to take off, fly a pattern, and land…in a Cessna at least. With a couple months of solid practice, I’m sure you’ll be able to do the same in the Extra. Also, by then, you’ll have realized that it is absolutely the **worst** plane for what you want to do. Aerobatic planes aren’t made to fly anywhere. They’re made to take off, do aerobatics over an airfield, and then land…at the **same** airfield. They **can** be flown from one place to another, but they’re uncomfortable, unstable, and really bad at all the things you have to do while flying from one place to another. That’s ok though. You apparently have an infinite supply of money, so once you’ve realized what a ridiculous mistake you’ve made, you can tuck your Extra into the back of a hangar somewhere, buy a Cirrus or a Honda Jet or something that’s actually pleasant to travel in, and forget you even own the Extra. 🤷♂️
Living the dreams, Kevin. I have mad respect for you. Guys Kev takes things super serious, look at his achievement for the monster truck from build to competition. Have faith in him bros.
If I was the instructor I would not train you until you either sold the extra or promised not to fly the extra until you had at least 200 hours and 2 years as pic and then at least 30 hours dual time in the extra with a very serious and safety focused instructor. If you keep up the attitude you showed in this video, I'm not sure you'll be alive much longer... IN AVIATION, EITHER SAFETY OR THE COFFIN WILL BE PRIORITY, ITS UP TO YOU.
I would divide those recommendations by two and replace the word "fly" with "solo". Keep in mind that he is already an RC pilot and is very familiar with flying aircraft that have a lot less static and dynamic stability than the Extra has. He needs to learn situational awareness and the flow of general aviation more than stick and rudder skills.
I think that's the thing...his attitude. It's great for the R/C stuff, and eventhe monstertruck. But it just feels like he's being disrespectful to an entire industry by clowning about.
Hey Kev I absolutley love the videos and youre the reason i got back into rc trucks after a long 10 year pause. I live in southern michigan (USA)where experimental and ultralight aircraft are huge. I also have heard horror stories from the news and can only imagine. Almost a year ago today i almost got killed on my motorcycle on the way to work by a woman pulling out her driveway and i was doing about 55mph. I am thankful to be alive and completley blessed to be able to comment my story on here but i guess what im getting at is be careful my man and stay around to keep making these awesome videos, im sure that your channel is a huge factor in the new people getting into RC these days. Safe soaring Kev!
Your instructor is amazing. He genuinely cares about your well being, so do take his advice to heart, for your and all of our sakes, Kev :) That said, I do hope you approach this with the persistence and patience you've shown when building your monster truck and will get to fly that F-1 plane of yours without cutting any corners. Really looking forward to seeing you fly this thing. Safely, of course.
I fly Cessna Caravans for a living, imo for visiting family you're probably better off with something like cirrus (for practicality) but power to you nothing wrong with buying that thing. You really need to take your time, respect the limits and never push yourself. Accidents can and do happen and complacency is where it starts, aviation is dangerous when not respected.
As an Airline Captain, with 24 years of experience. To this day. I wouldn't dare to do that... Aviation safety recommendations are written with a bloody pen.
Go for it Kev, Live your dream and do what you want to do in life, You clearly are doing the PPL and training the right way with from what i can see very experienced pilots with loads of hr's under their belt, I'd give anything to be able to learn to fly a full sized plane but for now it's R/C ones, Looking forward to more of this from you soon matey. (Oh and one last thing, It's in your colours already!)
For someone who doesn’t like the “techno babble” aviation is all about planning and rules and regulations “all very dull” I see your training from my local airfield and Im pretty sure I was watching some of that on the day (I can see them playing in the sky from my work) I sincerely wish you all the best with this venture and take it very seriously! Because we don’t want you to become another RUclipsr who ends their life in a plane accident (it’s happening a lot)
I think Gregg is absolutely someone that you need to keep close to you and take every bit of his advice. I know there's some comedic value in this, but he's 100% bang on, and he's not a yes man for a bit of dosh. Keep him in your list of trustworthy people.
Gregs an awesome dude :)
Greg is a legend. I hope he did take Kev into a dark room for that careful conversation :)
@@ufirex those conversations sometimes need to happen. Right. 👊🏻
It's Greg not Greggs, he's not a sausage roll
@@KevinTalbotTVplease be safe
As a flight instructor, the flight instructor's reaction is totally justified.
Aviation demands diligence in study, discipline, humility, and respect for the craft.
Take what your CFI tells you to heart.
As a viewer, I'm fuckin' pumped!!
I seriously can't wait to see your progress through flying and going through everything from straight and level, ground ref maneuvers, stalls, cross country flights, and hopefully even your instrument rating! I'm an airline pilot, always wanted to do aerobatics, and I am incredibly jealous of your Extra and couple aerobatic flights so far haha
But for real, take it slow, don't get ahead of yourself, and be humble. Lots of people get killed by hubris via aviation.
Think you understated "LOTS" at the end there.
that instructor is literally my new favorite person..
Greg is awesome, such a down to earth and wholesome guy, really represents people in the RC community in the real world in my experience. My BMFA instructor for fixed wing when I did my A certificate with a 6ft 30cc Yak54 was the same. ☺
That was the best "telling offs" I've heard in a long time! 😂
Think it's one that was definitely needed
Well, it was a pleasure to meet you, we will remember you as the madman who jumped from an RC to an acrobatic plane and from there to the sky (with San Pedro)
I will remember thinking about how he payed for all his hobbies just running a hobby onlineshop and a youtube channel.
imagine an rc that can bring up a man who jumps out from atop of that rc and lands in an extra
kev, your certainly a great inspiration to all who know you. This is why your lessons on how you have made a small fortune is a good idea for us to watch, learn, and follow. Many people see it on the end of most of your content... The thumbnail of the silver Lamborghini with you their saying we could also do it by watching and listening.. I just wanted to thank you sincerely for being you keV and makeing our dreams a hole lot closer than what we thought..👍
sell it. the instructor is worried about you not mad.
They say rc pilots make the best pilots and are easiest to jnstruct
More of Greg, please. Guy is a legend, and knows his stuff. Listen to him.
Kev, in aviation you absolutely cannot run before you can walk! Greg's reaction is completely understandable, some instructors would point blank refuse to teach you as the attitude would worry them. Please listen to the experts, no-one wants a Colin McRae scenario due to your over-enthusiasm. Take it steady and you'll get there.
Damn lol don't Colin McRae it up..... Not an every day name ya hear... Waiting on season 5 still😂
yeah and who taught the wright brothers how to fly?
did they have loads of hours fannying about in flight school did they?
did they feck.
I bet you work in health and safety or some nonsense.
too many risk averse people in the UK now, were a laughing stock, it's not the attitude that got young men in the air after a couple of lessons with a spitfire during WW2 was it eh?
Stop being soft for other people, be soft in your own world by all means, but just because you are scared, doesnt mean others are.
@@BHALT0S The rules in aviation are written in the blood of those who came before. Times and standards change.
@@chrisgoblin4857 times and such change, but not all people do, and thats why we have the darwin awards.
I want my entertainment too like.
Kev, I've only been subbed for about 2 years, and your channel is what drove me to get back into RC, and get some hobby grade cars. I've loved the monster truck series as well, and now you've gone and got an airplane. Please, please, please, listen to all the advice from your instructor and don't fall victim to temptation to start going crazy with this plane any time soon. I was an instrument flight controls specialist in the Air Force, and I know how complex and dangerous planes can be, especially the high horsepower, high performance models. I really don't want to come on YT and see one of your friends making a video about your final flight in your newest toy. I wish you all the best, and safe aviation.
Listen to your instructor. One small error can cost you everything.
this
MORE POWER supercedes safety LOL
That's life goofy
@@marcusjackson2874 if its take two people kevin got 200lbs of rc stuff to cary with him.
@marcusjackson2874 pretty sure he just wants to go fast. Look at his content, the man doesn't do slow. 😂
As someone with over a thousand hours just on high-performance tail-draggers, I can safely say that an Extra is probably the last aircraft I would purchase for your planned mission. Even forgetting the significant aerobatic capability and instability of the Extra, the weather over the Irish Sea is poor at the best of times, with either solid IFR or at best a very limited visible horizon to assist you. Sea crossings on even the nicest days have a nasty habit of the sea blending into the sky and you feeling like you are flying in a goldfish bowl unaware of which is up or down! You require an aircraft with IFR capabilities, preferably FIKI and a stable instrument platform - an autopilot would also be of great benefit!
Kevin, this advice is so true. Charter a flight across the Irish Sea in a PC-12 on a bad weather day and watch the conditions yourself if you don't believe @markjarrett6893
You are stupid
This is the real problem with the Extra. Not it's "hotrod" performance characteristics.
19:46 your instructor 😂cracked me up 😂 😂
too funny, but hes right!
@@KevinTalbotTV😂
This is going to make a good episode of Pilot Debrief. I mean youtuber and learning to fly have such a good record, I can't see anything going wrong.
this guy is gonna be one of those guys that end up on a list of you tubers that died making a video
That’s a decent instructor to scold you without hesitation.
I think your flight instructor had good reason to speak to you like you did
the disappointed parent scolding was hilarious. He only cares for your safety Kev, but we all know you do whatever the f*** you want 😂😂😂
I agree with the instructor, the extra is fast, but there are other more comfortable fast aircraft out the. It's less about the extra being mental, more its just wasted money on a loud rattlebox when there are "cruisers" out there.
Yeah that thing doesn't look too enjoyable to be in! Like taking a trip in a stripped out car with loud exhaust and stiff suspension.
@@volvo09 Um, like a Formula I vehicle just as the CFI tried to tell him...
I think Kev just wants to depart an airfield like a bat out of hell and come in doing barrel rolls and inverted loops...! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He has a Lambo and built his own Monster Truck after all - for him, it's go big, or go home...
He coulda gone for a Mooney or a Cirrus with that kind of money
It's an extremely bad idea, this is going to end in a crash. His attitude just won't be right for flying let alone something like that. Something like an SR22 or Bonanza etc will be so much better
I am 100% behind you Kev as far as getting your pilots license Kev. But you really need to listen to everything your instructor tells you. Everything about aviation is about being 100% thorough. There are no short cuts and if something goes wrong the outcome can be pretty binary. I'd like to keep watching you for years yet, so do everything properly.
As nice as your new plane is, it's fundamentally not the plane for a beginner, or even very good for doing distance. The plane you are learning on, and say something like the Cessna 172 are very stable planes and are much better for the first couple of years of flying.
That kind of lack of control responsiveness and stability gives you time to figure out what is happening and get yourself out of bad situations.
That aerobatic plane is the very opposite, and you need years of experience to fly it safely.
Anyway, best of luck.
Plus it has no avionics, if you find yourself caught in the weather you're straight f-cked. Not really an appropriate plane for crossing water and flying long distance.
As someone who has flown both real airplanes and RC airplanes, its about 100x easier to take off and fly an actual airplane even for long distances. Now remembering what all the switches and knobs do and landing safe and smooth is the hard part. Im talking about single propeller planes tho, I know nothing about jets or multi props. But I took off and flew a cessna before I graduated high school. My first flight was over an hour. Ive never had a rc plane fly more than 3 mins without crashing. A stunt plane is a wild first choice but I can't knock it. Still light enough to glide pretty well incase of engine failure. Just focus more on learning than actually filming or cameras until you get comfortable. A tumble wumble hits alot different from hundreds and thousands of feet in the air.
Also just to be clear, as far as transportion a aerobatic plane is a terrible choice. Alot of fuel, more maintenance, no room for much luggage, all that plus what you mentioned. It's absolutely not practical and saving an hour on the commute isn't going to make up for it. But if half your reason is for pure fun and adrenaline then you made the right choice and it'll be easy to deal with the rest. Who cares, it's your money and life and it'll be fun to watch you join the aviation hobby. Plus it's not like you're in it... Oh wait 😂
If you've flown, you should know about lift....a low wing sport plane has minimal lift and relies on HP to keep it up. A high wing like a cessna doesn't require a lot of power to keep it flying. For eg: the stall speed of a cessna 172 is 40 knots, an EA-300 is 55 knots. (almost 50% faster).
with a high wing aircraft, it basically WANTS to fly level since the weight is below the wing. A low wing aircraft all the weight is above the wing which makes it want to tip over, hence why you can do aerobatics with them.
"Just focus more on learning than actually filming or cameras until you get comfortable"
Incredible advice
Tumble wumble happens at ground level !
@@1979augistine Tumble wumble can happy at any level, it's just usually happened at ground level lol
Student pilot here, beautiful plane you brought!
just don't go flying it until you are ready, maybe 10-15 years from now.
10-15 years he says lol. You're crazy. You can fly it immediately, just respect the plane and your own skills. Treat it like a cessna 172 and gradually do more once comfortable
@@ViperVideo except that it's not a Cessna 172, a 172 is stable, hard to spin, easy to land and very forgiving, an aerobatic plane is unstable, easy to spin, hard to recover, and absolutely merciless to mistakes
@calebmenker988 it doesn't matter. My point still stands, don't fly it aggressively, and it'll be fine.
@@ViperVideoI agree 10-15 years is dramatic, but I’m curious… are you a pilot? And have you flown an Extra or any other hot tailwheel airplane?
I have one point to make. Remember the guy who built and submerged in the TITAN SUBMARINE!!! Don’t repeat his mistakes!! Overconfidence is a killer!
It’s pretty good for getting clicks on YT though.
@@rickrussell Yeah The Titan guy gets millions every day... pity he's fish food
@@mikebowers7161he got f*cking desintagrated
I thought you meant titanic at first. That too!
It was nice having you to entertain me we will miss you kev ❤
Kevin you need to listen the experts when it comes to flying mate you potentially risking other safety if things go wrong
I think he is making an entertainment video where he is putting-on like he is ignoring the safety. He doesn’t have a death wish so it’s a pretty safe bet he is going to go through all the training before he is up there doing stunts by himself. Just a hunch.
@@rustbucket9318 Plus, he just want a fast plane. And most people can drive fast. But wont win acrobatic competitions :P
I feel sorry for that flight instructor
He's just taking it lightly for the entertainment, off camera i'm sure he's taking it as seriously as he should
Like they say: "There Are Old Pilots, and There Are Bold Pilots, But There Are No Old, Bold Pilots"
The sensible way would be to get his pilot license, then get a nice tricyle gear plane, rack up more hours and then think about the Extra
The flying instructors reaction was priceless. Had me rolling around laughing.
Love the reaction of the instructor
It was staged. Or do you think he didn't notice the Extra landing on his airstrip sitting in his shed?
He's a good actor if he did know
As much as we want to see more power and some crazy stuff playing around in an aircraft like an extra with zero experience could be fatal not only for you but others too. Keep gregg around he’s giving genuine advice and isn’t just a yes man that will potentially get you killed
18:50 Oh deer, what a takeoff...
I think you would have got a lot more out of it had you bought a cruising airplane, like a Diamond or a Cessna. Your instructor said that the Extra is like an F1 car. It's not. It's worse. You can always stop and get out of an F1 car. You don't have that option with an Extra.
Not to mention that it's a terrible cruiser. Uses up a ton of gas, doesn't carry very much, it's very uncomfortable, and you'll probably freeze in it. You need a Diamond Katana, mate.
Pretty sure it's not IFR rated either. Dude should have bought a Cirrus.
I'm not an aviation expert by a long shot. BUT yes, there's a TON of fast comfortable and cool aircraft around. To me, this is like touring on a motocross bike. The SR22T or SR22 would have been a better choice me thinks.
@@muskokamike127 Tourning on a motorcross bike, been there done that ;) Did a 2 day 900km trip on my Yamaha WR450F road legal enduro dirtbike. It was not pleasant cruising for hours at 90km/h for 2 days.
@@a64738 When I was a teen I had a honda 125, used to go everywhere on that and while it's fine for puttering around the city, going to school etc, long trips? not so much.
Even now, I have a vstar 1100 custom, I don't fit it right. (arms are too short) and I can at best go an hour before I need a break.
I’m with the instructor on this one. You’re an absolute walloper mate 🫡
Did anyone else notice the deer running beside his new plane when when it was taking off? 😮 18:50ish in.
I know several people that died in airplane crashes. It happened more often than you think, one little mistake like forgetting something on the check list and it’s over. Sometimes there is paper thin room for error and sometimes even experienced pilots crash due to mistakes or freak accidents such as the seat rolling back on takeoff causing the yoke to be pulled back or spacial disorientation which is especially not uncommon over water even to experienced pilots. It even happens to fighter pilots in sophisticated aircraft. Case in point, there is a thousand ways to crash due to carelessness, weather, mechanical issues or other pilots not paying attention.
Be careful, bro
Awesome Extra. Here are two canopy-related pieces of advice: Make shure that nothing comes loose inside the cockpit when you fly. Close all zippers in your suit. If a camera or some other tool hits the inside of the canopy during sudden negative G's, the canopy could easily break. And then you are without a usable plane for months and it will probably put you back at least £ 20k as suggested in this video. And make shure the canopy latch is locked completely before starting the engine. Or if there is a chance a helicopter may hoover close to your plane.
Why i got a feeling that we are gonna lose a legend
IMHO the CAA or EASA should issue a restriction of at least a 1000 hrs airtime before being let loose in control of an Extra. I learnt in flying school to fly a Cessna 152, then after I obtained my PPL (JAA CAA) at 45 1/4hrs having passed all my written exams I flew a Cessna C172 Rheims. I then went onto to fly a PA28 Cherokee 180 which again handled totally different to a C172-180. I also flew a PA28 Warrior and a PA28 Archer 3 again different beasts, before flying a PA28 Turbo Arrow 3. That was enough for me at almost 500 hrs. My first ever flight was in a Beech Bonanza V tail as a kid, I’m now 70, this particular plane is now known as the widow maker. Kev, listen to your flight instructor and forget about the Extra. Before even thinking about flying from Isle of Man you need some ratings after you qualify with PPL like a night rating and instrument rating, IMC is the very least otherwise you’ll become a statistic. An Extra and your attitude in this RUclips is a recipe for disaster or a fool and his money. You just can’t qualify with a PPL then jump into an Extra and fly with low hours experience and fly you need ratings ad experience which you get gradually.
To quote one of the 21st centuries finest aviators "It'll be fine", "What could possibly go wrong?". When you said that you were gong to see your instructor I half expected (hoped) it would be Stemp lol. Kev is actually a very clever man, in his own way. He's not going to treat it like he wasn't in it. RCMann on the other hand... Hide the key's is all I'm saying Kev.
Greg tells the truth so much, listen to him closely. I've been flying passionately for 26 years and have met so many overconfident pilots who either lived to tell the tale or are just silent today. Aviation requires a healthy attitude towards yourself and your limits, otherwise you won't be able to enjoy it for a long time.
You've had a little wiggle of the stick have ya, That instructor is hilarious. Looking forward to your new journeys!!
Mate, those two Porches are gorgeous. This man obviously has some fun toys. Love it.
That’s awesome. Stay safe, Kev 🙏
Absolutely love the way you're thinking! Cut down the travelling time- fly faster! If anyone can master an Extra, you can. But probably get a few years on something boring first.
Nice one Kev, its fun that you get to experience other interesting hobbies instead of RC alone. Keep it up!
Basher rc's, lambo, monster truck, stunt plane. Brilliant. Your a smart man Kev, be safe buddy for all our sakes... John
Red, white and black? GAME OVER paint scheme, baby! 👍
I love the instructor in the yellow jacket. He’s so real about it and Kev just doesn’t care. 😂😂😂 you’re talking to a man that bough a Lambo and built his own Monster Truck… Kev goes big or goes home. But to go home now, he needs a plane. 😂😂😂
Goes home or dies… not the type of industry to go big if you don’t have the experience. This is not a toy like a lambo. I love kev but this is just a really bad decision. Even for cruising this is basically the worst plane possible. Way better of with just a Cessna or something like that
Get yourself your NPPL with Greg. Plenty of fast 600Kg composite microlights coming to the UK. That Extra will kill you. If you want something bigger progress to PPL and instrument ratings etc. But it's small steps - you can't rush experience.
Greg is right . Be careful ! The extra is a terrible idea if you want to commute in all weather , it’s simply not designed for it
yeah i know clear whether only
Huge support from the states!
That support can be deadly.
LOVE the flight instructors reaction PURE GOLD XD
There is no "Whaa 'appened...?!" after a cock up in one of those...
Greg is priceless! Protect that man and listen well Kev!
To those warning him, he really doesnt care and wont listen . Let him learn from crashing it
You realise there are companies that specialise in flying passengers to where they want to go, they are called airlines, just rock up to Ronaldsway Airport, and I'm sure you'll find someone to take you where you want to go.
Amazing video😊 i love every 26 minutes
Safety first man. Flying an old piper ive had throttle cut inflight, unretractable flaps, open door in flight, air traffic incident, electronics out, and probably more i haven't realized. All within 2 years of flight school. Flying an extra that fast is a recipe for disaster. Im sure this was for laughs
Apologies to the flight instructor for having to deal with these RUclipsrs.
Lost a lot of respect Kevin. Pretty dumb mate
I love how you did the old style of intro! I really love when you do the videos like that!
I would go for an RV8 as they are way better for a starter in aerobatics
I hope you take on board what your instructor is telling you, it’s absolute madness to buy one of these before you’ve even learnt the basics.
yeah i know, cant do normal. but if someone else can learn to fly it then why cant i?
Stick to R C planes dude - you can walk away from crashes with just a hurt pocket 😊
F That you got to live a little if he dies at least he was enjoying himself
@@jcthe2ndand what about if he hits a car / house / pedestrian (think shoreham air show)…
@@FlyingSi stop living in bubble rap and stop living in what ifs there will always be what ifs in life
@@jcthe2nd that's fine if you're not going to risk others. With aircraft, when it goes wrong the plane is coming down to the ground. Because of that you are exposing uninvolved parties to that risk. So I'll keep my passengers and crew in bubble wrap and keep 'what-if-ing'...
To quote my old flight instructor when almost this exact scenario happened at my local airport (some rich guy bought a Pitts special after getting his license, after being repeatedly told not to). "The thing that boils my piss most, is that when he kills himself we'll be made to feel sorry for him".
That guy ended up taxxing into a forklift and wrote off the prop + engine. Thankfully he wasn't hurt, but I've not seen him or the aircraft since.
Man! You are living your life to the Max. Smart guy you Mr. Talbot! Good luck with the new wings
Greg's reaction was absolutely priceless! When he discovered what you had bought, you couldnt wipe the smile off my face if you kicked me in the nuts. Hope he gets a lot more camera time! Mark is a legend, even here in the states if you follow aviation. Glad you got the Extra, makes perfect sense for travel. Fits all your luggage, easy to fly, haul youself and all your friends around confortably, economical to fly and maintain, perfect sense 😂. My pops had an rv-6 and it was a rocket of a prop plane, slightly similar in design to the extra, kinda. Eagerly awaiting this series!
Absolutely epic!
This is not going to be fun flying over the seas in bad... well any weather really mate. In fact I don't even think its IFR rated😅. Hell of a plane but wtf lol
Yeah, can’t fly it in bad visibility
Kevin lives my dream life, what a man!
That techno babble waffle is what is going to preserve your life. A casual attitude to even the smallest detail can do you in. Risks don’t add they multiply when flying and the pressure to make RUclips videos and/or to save time make it extra risky. Will you still fly if the weathers a bit dodgy and you have a deadline? Take care mate.
It’s fine I don’t have deadlines
If you've watched Kevin long enough, you should know that you can't take his casual attitude at face value. Trust me, he's taking this very seriously.
Love the excitement and enthusiasm, and I think the training will set more realistic expectations as you go, learning to fly a plane is a very humbling experience!
Ok here we go baby!!!!!!! 🥤🍿🥤🍿👊👊👍👍
That was super cool. All the best Kev.
What a sound thing makes on a fly-by from ground level. Proper bit of kit.
The scene with the instructor after buying it was hilarious. I can't wait to see the antics you get up to on this journey!
Depending on how much this is just an act for RUclips, it wasn't super cool it was super worrying.
He doesn't seem to understand the foundations that flight safety is built on, and nor do a concerning number of commenters (though some are all too painfully aware).
Even if he has a different attitude buried inside his head somewhere, why show this side to the world to potentially lead others astray?
Signs of a very inappropriate attitude.
All the gear and no idea.
Money's worth nothing to you when you're dead....
thats why you gotta spend it all before you die!
You do you man, but personally I'd recommend something like a Cessna 206 or a Beech bonanza g36, plenty fast, and safer than jumping straight into an extra.
Stay safe man 🤙
Everyone speaking with the exception of Kevin is correct. Having been a part of the aviation community for years as a certificated pilot I can sadly say we've all known and seen these type of want-to-be-pilots come and tragically go, leaving the rest of us broken-hearted with the clouds of NTSB investigations hanging over our heads and rulings made in response to the untrained and foolish actions of those who won't listen. My 5 year old loves Kevin, as do many many others and even he asked why is he not listening to the others so he doesn't get killed. We will pray for him to come to his senses and stick with flight training and flying in a sensible and docile aircraft. The only "to-the-moon" and "more power" we want to see are more RC cars not his one and done imitation of a lawn-dart. Wake up Kevin.
You said it all !
Haha, chill out! Entertainment is key!! 😅
@@VinnyschannelEntertainment is not key, safety is key, entertainment is a LONG way down the list. He’s right. I’ve had the pleasure of flying vintage fast jets and aerobatic aircraft, and currently own a very high performance complex aeroplane. But i started on a little trainer which is exactly what Kevin needs to do. I imagine he’s putting this on for the camera but the amount of mistakes he’s made in this video alone is concerning, like flying an Ikarus C42 to learn on despite that not even being the same licence as the one he wants!
Here's a thing. He's got a lot of qualified folks like yourself quite concerned. He might have painted himself into a bit of a corner here. He either;
1. Knuckles down, stops fannying about and playing the clown. But this might lose him RUclips followers.
2. Keeps going like this, and posting clips of his various hilarious calamities...putting him right in the sights of the CAA, or whoever regulates private flight.
You might be able to answer this question. Can a license be revoked if people are seen to be messing about in the skies? Even if they are 'pretending' to have mishaps? I'm thinking that if he's ever up there flying, surely 100% of his concentration should be on flying...not what will make good viewing.
Look at all of this engagement!! You sly guy😆
Buy a high-wing aircraft and after a few years of experience you can sell it off and go to a low-wing model. There is no reset button if you get into a unrecoverable stall.
i love to see you following your dreams, be careful, and take the advice from these people your learning from with great value, as we dont was to lose you kev!
Learning to fly is pretty easy. It usually doesn’t take more than 4-6 hours to reach a level of competence that will allow you to take off, fly a pattern, and land…in a Cessna at least. With a couple months of solid practice, I’m sure you’ll be able to do the same in the Extra. Also, by then, you’ll have realized that it is absolutely the **worst** plane for what you want to do. Aerobatic planes aren’t made to fly anywhere. They’re made to take off, do aerobatics over an airfield, and then land…at the **same** airfield. They **can** be flown from one place to another, but they’re uncomfortable, unstable, and really bad at all the things you have to do while flying from one place to another. That’s ok though. You apparently have an infinite supply of money, so once you’ve realized what a ridiculous mistake you’ve made, you can tuck your Extra into the back of a hangar somewhere, buy a Cirrus or a Honda Jet or something that’s actually pleasant to travel in, and forget you even own the Extra. 🤷♂️
with that money he could have bought a Daher TBM 930. That is way easier to fly and it's super comfortable, it's like a Mercedes with wings.
Living the dreams, Kevin. I have mad respect for you.
Guys Kev takes things super serious, look at his achievement for the monster truck from build to competition. Have faith in him bros.
This feels reckless.
I think you mean wreckfull
20:06 “ what the f**k have you done” 🤣🤣
If I was the instructor I would not train you until you either sold the extra or promised not to fly the extra until you had at least 200 hours and 2 years as pic and then at least 30 hours dual time in the extra with a very serious and safety focused instructor.
If you keep up the attitude you showed in this video, I'm not sure you'll be alive much longer...
IN AVIATION, EITHER SAFETY OR THE COFFIN WILL BE PRIORITY, ITS UP TO YOU.
I would divide those recommendations by two and replace the word "fly" with "solo". Keep in mind that he is already an RC pilot and is very familiar with flying aircraft that have a lot less static and dynamic stability than the Extra has. He needs to learn situational awareness and the flow of general aviation more than stick and rudder skills.
I think that's the thing...his attitude.
It's great for the R/C stuff, and eventhe monstertruck. But it just feels like he's being disrespectful to an entire industry by clowning about.
Hey Kev I absolutley love the videos and youre the reason i got back into rc trucks after a long 10 year pause. I live in southern michigan (USA)where experimental and ultralight aircraft are huge. I also have heard horror stories from the news and can only imagine. Almost a year ago today i almost got killed on my motorcycle on the way to work by a woman pulling out her driveway and i was doing about 55mph. I am thankful to be alive and completley blessed to be able to comment my story on here but i guess what im getting at is be careful my man and stay around to keep making these awesome videos, im sure that your channel is a huge factor in the new people getting into RC these days. Safe soaring Kev!
Today I got a new rc car 😊😊
which one?
Me too
Sick what is it
I just got the Vanquish H10 2 days ago 😊
@@jonwitherow1434 what’s that a rc plane or boat or something
24:40 Кэвин АБСОЛЮТНО СЧАСТИВ!!! :)
Поздравляю! Самый лучший подарок твой!
You need to build one that would be great to watch
God damn it Kev.... PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!! WE cannot afford to lose an awesome dude, God be with you 🙏
By the time all the checks are done you could have driven quicker 😂
Your instructor is amazing. He genuinely cares about your well being, so do take his advice to heart, for your and all of our sakes, Kev :)
That said, I do hope you approach this with the persistence and patience you've shown when building your monster truck and will get to fly that F-1 plane of yours without cutting any corners. Really looking forward to seeing you fly this thing. Safely, of course.
I fly Cessna Caravans for a living, imo for visiting family you're probably better off with something like cirrus (for practicality) but power to you nothing wrong with buying that thing. You really need to take your time, respect the limits and never push yourself. Accidents can and do happen and complacency is where it starts, aviation is dangerous when not respected.
As BA said, " I aint getting on no plane, fool!" lol. Fair play to you dude
This isnt a good idea, please be careful
As an Airline Captain, with 24 years of experience. To this day. I wouldn't dare to do that... Aviation safety recommendations are written with a bloody pen.
Go for it Kev, Live your dream and do what you want to do in life, You clearly are doing the PPL and training the right way with from what i can see very experienced pilots with loads of hr's under their belt, I'd give anything to be able to learn to fly a full sized plane but for now it's R/C ones, Looking forward to more of this from you soon matey. (Oh and one last thing, It's in your colours already!)
Kev I think this experience is going to be just super amazing. Man that plan is great🎉
For someone who doesn’t like the “techno babble” aviation is all about planning and rules and regulations “all very dull”
I see your training from my local airfield and Im pretty sure I was watching some of that on the day (I can see them playing in the sky from my work)
I sincerely wish you all the best with this venture and take it very seriously! Because we don’t want you to become another RUclipsr who ends their life in a plane accident (it’s happening a lot)
Dang dude You could've started off with a Carbon Cub or something 😂
I really hope it all works out Kev, stay safe and listen to your instructor. Good Luck.
My favorite airplane ever! Soooo much fun!
Greg is an absolute legend, he needs & deserves more followers! ❤❤
Greg is a great dude, he is the type of individual you want around as a friend. He had me laughing when you showed him the plane. 😂😂 thank you Greg.
the instructor reaction is funny and he is really concern about your safety. Lol