Just a possible suggestion. When carrying the bear can, if you take a DCF food bag as well ( 1-2oz weight penalty) you can pack your food in your food bag and in your pack to keep your pack balanced and put your empty bear can on top of your pack. When retiring for the night put your food in the can and your good.
Defintiely a good idea/ and use just about anything, or nothing. example: traveling with the lady she carries the Can i carry the tent/ we pull out the freeze dried meals and other well sealed food and put it in my pack during the hike. keep it in arm's reach and you are safe and legal / put everything in the can at night.
Great solid gear choices! I’m so excited to follow your journey! Thank you for all the time and energy you put into making videos for us all to enjoy! God Bless!
Should be a good series, really enjoyed your AT vids. Last year 'Huck Was Here' had a really fun to follow trip. I think this year ole trusty Outdoor Adventures is gonna have an epic time filled with joy and pain... And ultimately success... Whatever that will entail. Cheers.
I can virtually guarantee you'll ditch the polycro within 50 miles or so - we gave it a try in 2022 and it got destroyed by the desert environment, plus when it's windy (like, everyday) it's really frustrating to lay it down on the ground and then put your tent over it. We used a sheet of tyvek we got in Julien at the outfitter there, and it lasted for 700 miles (we bailed in Lone Pine) and I have used it on backpacking trips over the last 2 years. Tyvek is a little heavier but we cut it down to the size of our tent, and that extra weight makes it a little easier when laying it on the ground when setting up your tent.
Well that's a shame. We'll see how my experience is since I already have it. If the polycro breaks down I'm fine with just not using a ground sheet. I pull my ground sheet under my tent right after it's setup. makes it easier.
Good luck on your hike. Pay attention to the published water reports on the trail. Looks like this year will have more water than normal. That is a plus. Even so, there are long carries w/o water along the trail. There are a lot of water caches along the way. But, I'd always bring a little extra in case it is dry when you get there. My $0.02 of advise: bring a small water scoop (1/2L water bottle cut in half) to scoop water out of a shallow source. I followed some hikers trying to fill their Sawyer bags in shallow water pools & they really stirred up the silt. Anyway, good luck & I look forward to following you on the trail.
@@FrozensAdventures That would work. My scoop only weighed 0.1oz. It stays in my front mesh pocket of my pack. Easy to grab. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
Looking forward to seeing your videos. I did a lash in 21. We've hiked the desert for years. Late 80's did some SAR with adventure 16 volunteer mainly around the Laguna areas. I think this is a perfect year for a thru hike. Plenty of water. I used the SWD long haul 50. Similar to the one you are using. When you get to Julian go to "Fat Anthony's" and get their sandwiches. They are a block down from the main strip. I know, Moms pies are popular and very good. Love your videos. -Tin man-.
I caught you on the Podcast with Kyle , great stuff! Nice gear list. I went through the same emotions as you, anxiety came back once more but not nearly as much. 2 weeks for me until the PCT.
You could use a tent for the desert section and then switch to your hammock. I think you could make it work! Keep ur options open. ✌️ I can't wait to see you crush the PCT! 🎉
I understand that but I think I'd rather gain the experience of using a tent on a thru hike. I know a lot about hammocks but still consider myself pretty nooby in a tent.
I did the PCT 2023. Depending on how mutch snow you get (we got a lot), I would rekommend to switch backpack and maby sleep system in Kennedy meadows. I had a LightAF backpack just as you for everything except for the Sierra, in the Sierra I switched to the sierra designs flex capacitor 60-75. Im so happy I switched and the other 6 in my group said they wished they had the budget or would have done the same. One guy whent into the mountains with the LightAF pack that you and I have, but it was really tight and a big nusence with all the extra winter gear. But my biggest tip is (if you go in early like mid may, witch you should If its a big snow year "the problem isn't the snow... its the melt and rivers), my tip is to switch to a warmer sleeping bad. I switched from my 30° Katabatic quilt to my Western mountaineering Badger MF 15F comfort lvl bag. I was the only one that wasn't could any of the nights. Most in my group was so cold even thou they baught liners and had ther puffy jacket on that they couldn't sleep and got almost no rest during the night. It was very hard when we pushe 9-11 days per stretch in the snow to get thrue. I also had a different sleepingpad, the Therm-a-Rest XTherm with a Rvalue of around 8. Really good move aswell as we sleept straight on the snow for 6 weeks straight (not counting all the snow we had in the destert last year). Now your year are going to be different! So of course, adapt to what you are gonna face. If you don't go into the sierra early and you have a easy snow year with almost no snow. Disregard this post. But if you have a big snow year like me, please think about going in early in the snow. All of us (around 140 people out of 4500) last year that made it thrue the sierra and did a true north thrue hike of the pct whent in early. There came a time when the melt and rivers was so crazy that people had to bail and for about 2 weeks no one got thrue even thou they tried. A lot of people didn't know snow on the pct my year so a lot pushed there startdates to may when they heard about the snow. Big misstake... they wasn't able to go thrue. Bu me that started 25 of March and went in on the 20th of may ( bit late in my opinion for our year afterwards), well we nade it thrue. Just some food for thought 😊 Good luck! Your gonna make it! (My year was a bit special with all the snow) 😅
looking good/ again with your experience and especially gear knowledge, you will be one of the most prepared people out there. Was thinking of you when i Crossed the PCT at Tehachapi monday. It's been precipitating but not too much. San bernardinos may have some snow for you but Sierra is looking on track for normal melted by July, we're seeing a lot of rain and warm weather // side note i got to see the lake in Death Valley and it is amazing.
@@FrozensAdventures oh in that case you will be doing some snow hiking but it wont be too terrible. San Bernardinos are the bigger concern i think because youll be there earlier and their trails are rougher
Looking forward to your adventure. Have you thought about doubling up your nyloflume liner? One just for the quilt. I know don’t pack your fears but it’s a very minimal weight penalty to protect a very important thermal insulator. Smart move w the framed pack and small tent footprint. Don’t forget line extensions for little rock/ big rock pitches. Be safe, Go Wild!!!!
Well, I start a bit before you but you will likely eventually pass me. I opted for: Xmid pro 1 with a large groundsheet that extends to the vestibules. Enlightened Equipment 0 degree ULA catalyst to keep canister inside pack. I might ship my 20 degree bag later or use it in the desert. I don’t know. I didn’t want to fickle to much with layering in the Sierra so went with a zero degree. I have a fear of being cold in the mountains. March 26 is my hike date. Planning to take the desert SLOW then creep up the miles once at KM. Without a doubt you will pass this old man.
I can't wait until you start as well... The only quilts I have are HG. They are actually here in Columbus Ohio where I live so even better. Also love how they have the Econ line. I have one 20 degree premium for my backpacking and the rest are econ since I don't have to carry them far. Set of 0 degree econ for my hammock and one 30degree under for my hammock. All great!
I think they are close to comfort however I've tested hammock gear quilts in a hammock much more than in a tent on a sleeping pad so my opinions, if you are using a tent, may not be as accurate.
Outdoor vitals makes an elevated pillow with tie out points so it does not slip around. I have used it many times and it’s very comfortable as a side sleeper. It’s only about 25$ but well worth it
@@FrozensAdventures This is a new one with dots on the back and places to tie it to a pad and it’s a lot taller. It’s on the website as an elevated pillow that you should still check out for comfort for other times you use a pad
It's worth noting that HG made considerable changes to their burrow lines (they're also 15% off right now with free shipping). I just picked up a 15.4 oz 40F reg/wide/camo for 206 bucks.
nice! all of my hammock gear quilts are holding up great over the years. Even my 20F underquilt which I taped up with DCF tape when a a mouse ate it in the smokies is going strong.
Bro all these pre-PCT vids getting me stoked for you!! Love the t-Rex shirts 😂 Edit; Any chance of seeing a guest appearance out on the PCT by anyone you thru-hiked the AT with? Get ‘Merica to get his butt out there!
Would you ever try a packable portable wind turbine To power your batteries I am currently looking into the “shine turbine” for multi day trips. Only 3 pounds and also has wonderful reviews. I was always thinking just before falling asleep for the night, putting it outside the tent to top off my batteries
I’m done with Nyloflume pack liners. I have had two brand new liners leak like crazy. Maybe I got a bad batch but it’s not worth the risk for me to keep trying.
Groundhogs are stout, I don’t know why someone would pick sherpard hooks for tension tents and hammock flys because in higher winds you’re asking for trouble.
I can never get all the air out of my tensor in order to fold or roll it up. Would love to see how you do it with some tricks on avoiding air getting trapped in pockets
"Desert section" is such a poor term for the first 700 miles. It's really the "Southern California" section. I'm not sure if it was a PCTA member or someone from outside of California who started calling it the "desert section." Very little of the PCT in the section you're discussing is actually desert. The PCT along the California Aqueduct section is located in the very westernmost edge of the Mojave desert. The area northeast of Scissors Crossing is a "desert chaparral" transition. Go out into Imperial County or Death Valley to see the real desert. Most of the trail, indeed much of California is *chaparral* habitat, not desert. It's the most common single habitat in California. You'll be in Redshank chaparral when you start the trail, and you'll even see chaparral all the way up into Oregon! 82% of Cleveland National Forest, the first public land on the PCT, is chaparral. 56% of San Bernardino NF and 74% of Angeles NF is chaparral. Most of the remainder of the PCT in these sections is mixed conifer forest. There's not much desert here. ruclips.net/video/nqgv8N0GTnU/видео.html
Just a possible suggestion. When carrying the bear can, if you take a DCF food bag as well ( 1-2oz weight penalty) you can pack your food in your food bag and in your pack to keep your pack balanced and put your empty bear can on top of your pack. When retiring for the night put your food in the can and your good.
Defintiely a good idea/ and use just about anything, or nothing. example: traveling with the lady she carries the Can i carry the tent/ we pull out the freeze dried meals and other well sealed food and put it in my pack during the hike. keep it in arm's reach and you are safe and legal / put everything in the can at night.
That was my plan. I know what a 2 liter bag of water feels like goin up hill, can't even imagine climbing mountains with 12 more pounds up top.
Great solid gear choices! I’m so excited to follow your journey! Thank you for all the time and energy you put into making videos for us all to enjoy! God Bless!
My pleasure!
Should be a good series, really enjoyed your AT vids. Last year 'Huck Was Here' had a really fun to follow trip. I think this year ole trusty Outdoor Adventures is gonna have an epic time filled with joy and pain... And ultimately success... Whatever that will entail. Cheers.
Good Luck my friend 👊🏻Stay safe and take care Jason 🙏🏻 God Bless
Appreciate you!
I’m pumped. Ur my fav hiker. I’ll b watching.
We can’t wait either. Looking forward to it!
Thanks for sharing Frozen.
Looking forward to following your adventures!!! Best Wishes
Looking forward to following the adventure !
Perfect gear!
Omg!!! Been waiting for this for quite a while!!!! Yes! LET'S GO!
So excited for you. Loving the T-REX shirts. 😂
I can virtually guarantee you'll ditch the polycro within 50 miles or so - we gave it a try in 2022 and it got destroyed by the desert environment, plus when it's windy (like, everyday) it's really frustrating to lay it down on the ground and then put your tent over it. We used a sheet of tyvek we got in Julien at the outfitter there, and it lasted for 700 miles (we bailed in Lone Pine) and I have used it on backpacking trips over the last 2 years. Tyvek is a little heavier but we cut it down to the size of our tent, and that extra weight makes it a little easier when laying it on the ground when setting up your tent.
Well that's a shame. We'll see how my experience is since I already have it. If the polycro breaks down I'm fine with just not using a ground sheet. I pull my ground sheet under my tent right after it's setup. makes it easier.
I'm excited for you!
We are getting excited for you!
Good luck on your hike. Pay attention to the published water reports on the trail. Looks like this year will have more water than normal. That is a plus. Even so, there are long carries w/o water along the trail. There are a lot of water caches along the way. But, I'd always bring a little extra in case it is dry when you get there. My $0.02 of advise: bring a small water scoop (1/2L water bottle cut in half) to scoop water out of a shallow source. I followed some hikers trying to fill their Sawyer bags in shallow water pools & they really stirred up the silt. Anyway, good luck & I look forward to following you on the trail.
I used to use the water scoop but found my pot to be just as useful. May consider it again though on the PCT if it becomes a hindrance.
@@FrozensAdventures That would work. My scoop only weighed 0.1oz. It stays in my front mesh pocket of my pack. Easy to grab. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
Its getting closer!!!!
Looking forward to seeing your videos. I did a lash in 21. We've hiked the desert for years. Late 80's did some SAR with adventure 16 volunteer mainly around the Laguna areas. I think this is a perfect year for a thru hike. Plenty of water. I used the SWD long haul 50. Similar to the one you are using. When you get to Julian go to "Fat Anthony's" and get their sandwiches. They are a block down from the main strip. I know, Moms pies are popular and very good. Love your videos. -Tin man-.
I caught you on the Podcast with Kyle , great stuff! Nice gear list. I went through the same emotions as you, anxiety came back once more but not nearly as much. 2 weeks for me until the PCT.
Great video!
The 20degree quilt will be good for the whole trail. Somewhere. In NoCA I switched to a 45 and immediately regretted. Handlebar, PCT08
You could use a tent for the desert section and then switch to your hammock. I think you could make it work! Keep ur options open. ✌️ I can't wait to see you crush the PCT! 🎉
I understand that but I think I'd rather gain the experience of using a tent on a thru hike. I know a lot about hammocks but still consider myself pretty nooby in a tent.
I did the PCT 2023. Depending on how mutch snow you get (we got a lot), I would rekommend to switch backpack and maby sleep system in Kennedy meadows.
I had a LightAF backpack just as you for everything except for the Sierra, in the Sierra I switched to the sierra designs flex capacitor 60-75. Im so happy I switched and the other 6 in my group said they wished they had the budget or would have done the same. One guy whent into the mountains with the LightAF pack that you and I have, but it was really tight and a big nusence with all the extra winter gear.
But my biggest tip is (if you go in early like mid may, witch you should If its a big snow year "the problem isn't the snow... its the melt and rivers), my tip is to switch to a warmer sleeping bad. I switched from my 30° Katabatic quilt to my Western mountaineering Badger MF 15F comfort lvl bag. I was the only one that wasn't could any of the nights. Most in my group was so cold even thou they baught liners and had ther puffy jacket on that they couldn't sleep and got almost no rest during the night. It was very hard when we pushe 9-11 days per stretch in the snow to get thrue.
I also had a different sleepingpad, the Therm-a-Rest XTherm with a Rvalue of around 8. Really good move aswell as we sleept straight on the snow for 6 weeks straight (not counting all the snow we had in the destert last year).
Now your year are going to be different! So of course, adapt to what you are gonna face. If you don't go into the sierra early and you have a easy snow year with almost no snow. Disregard this post.
But if you have a big snow year like me, please think about going in early in the snow. All of us (around 140 people out of 4500) last year that made it thrue the sierra and did a true north thrue hike of the pct whent in early. There came a time when the melt and rivers was so crazy that people had to bail and for about 2 weeks no one got thrue even thou they tried. A lot of people didn't know snow on the pct my year so a lot pushed there startdates to may when they heard about the snow. Big misstake... they wasn't able to go thrue. Bu me that started 25 of March and went in on the 20th of may ( bit late in my opinion for our year afterwards), well we nade it thrue.
Just some food for thought 😊
Good luck! Your gonna make it!
(My year was a bit special with all the snow) 😅
You guys rocked it in the Sierra!
Getting excited for this
Setup is looking good. I'll be interested to see how you like that pack as it seems right up my alley.
Pack looks great. Looks like you're ready to go. I love my 20 deg wide Burrow. I just ordered a 40 deg during the recent 30% off sale.
I’m loving my bigger pillow too! Also, thanks for pronouncing Appalachian right again!
looking good/ again with your experience and especially gear knowledge, you will be one of the most prepared people out there. Was thinking of you when i Crossed the PCT at Tehachapi monday. It's been precipitating but not too much. San bernardinos may have some snow for you but Sierra is looking on track for normal melted by July, we're seeing a lot of rain and warm weather // side note i got to see the lake in Death Valley and it is amazing.
I'm going to need to be in the Sierra a bit earlier than June 1 so we'll see how things go.
@@FrozensAdventures oh in that case you will be doing some snow hiking but it wont be too terrible. San Bernardinos are the bigger concern i think because youll be there earlier and their trails are rougher
Looking forward to your adventure. Have you thought about doubling up your nyloflume liner? One just for the quilt. I know don’t pack your fears but it’s a very minimal weight penalty to protect a very important thermal insulator.
Smart move w the framed pack and small tent footprint. Don’t forget line extensions for little rock/ big rock pitches.
Be safe, Go Wild!!!!
If anything I'd just use a trash compactor bag, those are solid!
Love the excitement!! I've been looking for a frameless pack that can hold up to 30lbs myself.
Hey Frosty! I wouldn't wanna do frameless after 20lbs or so. It's just not worth the 10 ounce weight savings.
Yea you’re going to want a framed pack. I’d recommend the ULA circuit.
Well, I start a bit before you but you will likely eventually pass me. I opted for:
Xmid pro 1 with a large groundsheet that extends to the vestibules.
Enlightened Equipment 0 degree
ULA catalyst to keep canister inside pack.
I might ship my 20 degree bag later or use it in the desert. I don’t know. I didn’t want to fickle to much with layering in the Sierra so went with a zero degree. I have a fear of being cold in the mountains.
March 26 is my hike date. Planning to take the desert SLOW then creep up the miles once at KM. Without a doubt you will pass this old man.
I can't wait until you start as well... The only quilts I have are HG. They are actually here in Columbus Ohio where I live so even better. Also love how they have the Econ line. I have one 20 degree premium for my backpacking and the rest are econ since I don't have to carry them far. Set of 0 degree econ for my hammock and one 30degree under for my hammock. All great!
How are the temp ratings? Are they close to comfort or are they lower limit?
I think they are close to comfort however I've tested hammock gear quilts in a hammock much more than in a tent on a sleeping pad so my opinions, if you are using a tent, may not be as accurate.
Soon as you said "hammock" on Kyle Hates Hiking I was over here. Use a DD Bivvy Hammock which can go on the ground as a tent.
I know those exist but I'd rather just take my tent. I've been happy with the nemo tensor on the ground. Consistency of sleep is important to me.
Nice
Outdoor vitals makes an elevated pillow with tie out points so it does not slip around. I have used it many times and it’s very comfortable as a side sleeper. It’s only about 25$ but well worth it
I think they were sending it out free a few years ago. I picked it up but never really used it much.
@@FrozensAdventures
This is a new one with dots on the back and places to tie it to a pad and it’s a lot taller. It’s on the website as an elevated pillow that you should still check out for comfort for other times you use a pad
Will you be making a another video showing your choice of stove, knife, foods, clothing etc? So excited for you! 😊
Yes I'll be showing all the gear to be used and thoughts behind it. The same format worked well for my AT hike
Try sticking a sock through the foot box hole before tightening it down
It's worth noting that HG made considerable changes to their burrow lines (they're also 15% off right now with free shipping). I just picked up a 15.4 oz 40F reg/wide/camo for 206 bucks.
nice! all of my hammock gear quilts are holding up great over the years. Even my 20F underquilt which I taped up with DCF tape when a a mouse ate it in the smokies is going strong.
Bro all these pre-PCT vids getting me stoked for you!! Love the t-Rex shirts 😂
Edit; Any chance of seeing a guest appearance out on the PCT by anyone you thru-hiked the AT with? Get ‘Merica to get his butt out there!
You may see RD and Murica somewhere in Oregon :)
Would you ever try a packable portable wind turbine To power your batteries I am currently looking into the “shine turbine” for multi day trips. Only 3 pounds and also has wonderful reviews. I was always thinking just before falling asleep for the night, putting it outside the tent to top off my batteries
Probably not. For 3 lbs you could carry a 40,000mah battery and have enough juice to power yourself for over a week.
I’m done with Nyloflume pack liners. I have had two brand new liners leak like crazy. Maybe I got a bad batch but it’s not worth the risk for me to keep trying.
Maybe I'll just do a trash compactor bag then. Especially in the Sierra
Good luck 👍 any info on moisture wick shirt/dri fit for sale
Crossing my fingers the Nemo works out for you. Quality seems to be hit or miss.
Groundhogs are stout, I don’t know why someone would pick sherpard hooks for tension tents and hammock flys because in higher winds you’re asking for trouble.
I honestly don't know why anyone would anything but a groundhog type stake. They just work so well.
What do you recommend tor a hiking shirt in summer?
Cheapo champion polyester shirt. REI Sahara sun hoody for west coast.
I'm starting a few days before you. You may catch up to me lol
See you out there!
I can never get all the air out of my tensor in order to fold or roll it up. Would love to see how you do it with some tricks on avoiding air getting trapped in pockets
I fold it the same way as it was in the box. Tight roll after that. I've also just rolled it once up and folded into a back panel
If you’re taking a Flextail pump (I am,) they also suck the air out of the pad.
@@jeffg3895 does this work on the tensor? I thought it was a one way valve in the pad
It's both. There's a valve for inflating then the whole assembly comes out and there's a hole to let air out.
@@FrozensAdventures gotcha. Now I gotta check my pump attachments to see if there is one that attaches to the larger “let the air out hole” 🤘
Also, more comments help the algorithm! You’re welcome lol
Thanks Murica
Go Blue or go home,hahahaha
Haha I've been all about the black packs, but for this thru hike I mixed it up back to my old colors
Trail name Blue Balls.
It’s all about Jesus
"Desert section" is such a poor term for the first 700 miles. It's really the "Southern California" section. I'm not sure if it was a PCTA member or someone from outside of California who started calling it the "desert section." Very little of the PCT in the section you're discussing is actually desert. The PCT along the California Aqueduct section is located in the very westernmost edge of the Mojave desert. The area northeast of Scissors Crossing is a "desert chaparral" transition. Go out into Imperial County or Death Valley to see the real desert. Most of the trail, indeed much of California is *chaparral* habitat, not desert. It's the most common single habitat in California. You'll be in Redshank chaparral when you start the trail, and you'll even see chaparral all the way up into Oregon! 82% of Cleveland National Forest, the first public land on the PCT, is chaparral. 56% of San Bernardino NF and 74% of Angeles NF is chaparral. Most of the remainder of the PCT in these sections is mixed conifer forest. There's not much desert here.
ruclips.net/video/nqgv8N0GTnU/видео.html